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W.B.YEATS DELIVERY IS DELAYED

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Ulysses17

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According a ICGs half yearly report it would suggest that the Epsilon won't be returned to her owners untilFSG777 is delievered in 2020. I would suspect that Epsilon will operate DUB-CER until spring time. And that the OW in the booking engine will be swapped out for the WBY when she does arrive. There is no way that OW could cover DUB-HHD on her own, surely they would send OW to ROS and bring the IoI up to Dublin for cover.

ferryfan

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According a ICGs half yearly report it would suggest that the Epsilon won't be returned to her owners untilFSG777 is delievered in 2020. I would suspect that Epsilon will operate DUB-CER until spring time. And that the OW in the booking engine will be swapped out for the WBY when she does arrive. There is no way that OW could cover DUB-HHD on her own, surely they would send OW to ROS and bring the IoI up to Dublin for cover.
I read that in the report too but as of today Epsilon is not on the booking engine for next year on any route. I think you are correct when you say OW would not be able to cover for Ulysses on her own. Thursdays trading update will possibly clear up these matters.

alfie79

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Will do you think OW for summer 2019 revert to Ross-france alongside WBY DUB - CHER

IFPete

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OW is doing great work out of Dublin, substituting for Epsilon at weekends when freight loads are not high.

Having her Dublin based next summer continues the flexibility although she will be focused on Rosscoff route.


ccs

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OW is doing great work out of Dublin, substituting for Epsilon at weekends when freight loads are not high.

Having her Dublin based next summer continues the flexibility although she will be focused on Rosscoff route.

So no IF Rosslare- France next summer?

brainferry

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Great work would equal Irish Ferries having any ship on their booking engine, Ireland to France fro today ?

Cladyman

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Great work would equal Irish Ferries having any ship on their booking engine, Ireland to France fro today ?

😃 that would involve using their Brain

I find it crazy that they have no listings.  Even if ferry changes at this stage it is less of an issue than losing the booking.

IFPete

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Normally the only sailings to France are epsilons Dublin - Cherbourg sailings at weekends from January to Late February during drydock period.

If epsilon leaves the fleet that means No sailings until early March on Ireland - France route. unless they bring back Dublin Swift in February to allow WB Yeats to go to Cherbourg at weekends. Remember Oscar Wilde will go to Pembroke to replace IOI while she drydocks and the Oscar Wilde will go to Drydock herself.

At the moment Dublin Swift comes back into service on Thrusday 14th March 2019 and WB Yeats is rumoured to operate its first sailing from Dublin to Cherbourg on Friday 15th March 2019.

What we do not know yet is what ship will replace Epsilon. My money is on Brittany Ferries Normandie or Etretat assuming Honfleur does not suffer a similar fait to WB Yeats.  A lease between April and October 2019 would cover Dublin Holyhead or Rosslare Pembroke sailings while WB Yeats operates to France.
Last Edit: November 27, 2018, 08:33:42 PM by IFPete

Steven

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W. B. YEATS doesn't appear on the schedule either, does that mean they've sold her?  ::). Theres no vessel on the France schedule at all yet, does that mean they've sold Oscar as well?  ::)

The logical explanation could be that Epsilon is on the France schedule.  Which hasn't been released yet!  W.B. Yeats would likely be more suited to Holyhead earlier in the year anyway, when tourist numbers are low on the France route and when she's most likely to have teething issues (not to mention that this was the plan all along!).  They probably don't dare put Yeats on the timetable until she is delivered to ICG's satisfaction after the fiasco earlier this year.

My money is on Brittany Ferries Normandie or Etretat assuming Honfleur does not suffer a similar fait to WB Yeats.  A lease between April and October 2019 would cover Dublin Holyhead or Rosslare Pembroke sailings while WB Yeats operates to France.
The arrival of Honfleur will likely see Baie de Seine going back to DFDS.  Why would Brittany Ferries leave themselves a ship short over summer by loaning it to ICG?  The Brittany Ferries timetable is already out for next year, with Normandie operating to Caen until Honfleur's arrival in mid-July when she replaces Etretat at Le Havre.  So even IF Brittany Ferries had a vessel available it wouldn't be until mid-July at the earliest which would be pretty useless for the hypothetical situation you describe

In any case, it took me a whole 5 minutes to find out the following.

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"The charter-in of the Ropax vessel MV Epsilon will expire in November 2018. The company has two further one year options on the vessel."
https://otp.investis.com/clients/uk/icg2/rns/regulatory-story.aspx?cid=500&newsid=986466

Its likely that ICG have extended the charter by a year given that it is December next week and she's still on the schedule!!!!
Last Edit: November 27, 2018, 10:36:17 PM by Steven
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ferryfan

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W. B. YEATS doesn't appear on the schedule either, does that mean they've sold her?  ::). Theres no vessel on the France schedule at all yet, does that mean they've sold Oscar as well?  ::)

The logical explanation could be that Epsilon is on the France schedule.  Which hasn't been released yet!  W.B. Yeats would likely be more suited to Holyhead earlier in the year anyway, when tourist numbers are low on the France route and when she's most likely to have teething issues (not to mention that this was the plan all along!).  They probably don't dare put Yeats on the timetable until she is delivered to ICG's satisfaction after the fiasco earlier this year.

My money is on Brittany Ferries Normandie or Etretat assuming Honfleur does not suffer a similar fait to WB Yeats.  A lease between April and October 2019 would cover Dublin Holyhead or Rosslare Pembroke sailings while WB Yeats operates to France.
The arrival of Honfleur will likely see Baie de Seine going back to DFDS.  Why would Brittany Ferries leave themselves a ship short over summer by loaning it to ICG?  The Brittany Ferries timetable is already out for next year, with Normandie operating to Caen until Honfleur's arrival in mid-July when she replaces Etretat at Le Havre.  So even IF Brittany Ferries had a vessel available it wouldn't be until mid-July at the earliest which would be pretty useless for the hypothetical situation you describe

In any case, it took me a whole 5 minutes to find out the following.

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"The charter-in of the Ropax vessel MV Epsilon will expire in November 2018. The company has two further one year options on the vessel."
https://otp.investis.com/clients/uk/icg2/rns/regulatory-story.aspx?cid=500&newsid=986466

Its likely that ICG have extended the charter by a year given that it is December next week and she's still on the schedule!!!!

Nobody mentioned selling anything

alfie79

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Some Mad Statements on this

IFPete

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I was under the impression that Honfluer was due delivery in April 2019???.

There have been a lot of runours circulating about Epsilons return to Italy which would not be a bad thing if a decent replacement
can be found.

We should find out tomorrow the Schedule for 2019,
Last Edit: November 28, 2018, 04:21:43 PM by IFPete

IFPete

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WB Yeats will be another week at FSG to complete adjustments as a result of findings during sea trials.

 

munchkin

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From today's November Trading Update
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The W.B. Yeats, currently under construction by Flensburger Schiffbau-Gesselschaft & Co. KG  (“FSG”) completed its sea-trials in early November and is undergoing final delivery adjustments.
FSG have advised ICG that the W.B. Yeats will be ready for delivery during early December. ICG would like to apologise once again for any disruption caused to our tourism and freight customers due to the delay in FSG delivering the ship, a delay that was an extraordinary event totally outside the control of ICG. FSG are contracted to deliver a second new vessel during 2020.
SOURCE: https://www.icg.ie/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Trading-Update-Nov-2018-web-version.pdf

no word on the alleged sabotage (incidentally not the only incident in the recent past at various shipyards), but at least December delivery is confirmed by official sources.

conor

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Will WBY be going anywhere tomorrow?