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Title: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: Cladyman on December 29, 2018, 11:55:37 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46704522

Could this be where iscar Wilde off too
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: giftgrub on December 29, 2018, 12:03:36 PM
Strange decision to spend this money

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1019448/

Anyone know who Seabourne are ?
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: ferryfan on December 29, 2018, 12:40:12 PM
Strange decision to spend this money

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1019448/

Anyone know who Seabourne are ?
Seabourne are the outfit that has being proposing and talking about re-opening the defunct Ramsgate-Ostend freight route for over a year now, I don't think they have any vessels.
Why this story is making news today is a bit strange Euro news carried the story about two weeks ago?
https://www.euronews.com/2018/12/18/keeping-trade-flowing-after-brexit-wont-be-plain-sailing
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: giftgrub on December 29, 2018, 12:58:52 PM
Strange news alright, guess the press just picked it up.

Just does not make sense, as

“Brittany Ferries told the BBC it was contracted to add 19 weekly return sailings to three of its routes: Roscoff to Plymouth, Cherbourg to Poole and Le Havre to Portsmouth - a 50% increase on its current schedule.”

Surely if there was a massive spike in demand for services companies like BF would change their schedules anyway to maximize the business they can do and run schedules much more intensively on these crossings. Even redeployment of fleet to maximize the chance to make money.

Now the Government are paying them nearly 50 million to add more crossings ? !

And then giving 14 million to a company with no routes/ships to provide crossings- bizarre.

Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: giftgrub on December 29, 2018, 06:28:27 PM


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/government-accused-of-standing-idly-by-as-uk-bolsters-ferry-links-for-brexit-1.3744328?mode=amp
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: giftgrub on December 29, 2018, 06:29:20 PM

https://www.thejournal.ie/uk-ferries-no-deal-brexit-4416960-Dec2018/?amp=1
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: Steven on December 29, 2018, 07:48:45 PM
Strange decision to spend this money

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1019448/

Anyone know who Seabourne are ?
Seabourne are the outfit that has being proposing and talking about re-opening the defunct Ramsgate-Ostend freight route for over a year now, I don't think they have any vessels.
Why this story is making news today is a bit strange Euro news carried the story about two weeks ago?
https://www.euronews.com/2018/12/18/keeping-trade-flowing-after-brexit-wont-be-plain-sailing

The difference is the contracts have actually been awarded now, rather than just discussions held. 
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: Steven on December 29, 2018, 08:35:11 PM
Brittany Ferries press release


https://brittanyferriesnewsroom.com/uk-government-contract-additional-freight-capacity-for-a-no-deal-brexit/
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: Cladyman on December 30, 2018, 09:59:52 AM
From what I have been reading on here and elsewhere there is supposed to be a bit of a shortage of ferry stock at the moment, where is it coming from?

Where is BF going to get Ferry from. Is there that much slack in current utilisation.  We have all seen how long Yeats delayed so can’t relay on Honfleur delivery date just yet. 

Also my view is ICG seen what was happening with British govt and likely to have known figures banded about.  There communication re Rosslare has always used word “unlikely”.   Given how long they have messed about with schedule delaying another month to get 10m off the govt would be a good corporate strategy, even if it did annoy customers.

Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: giftgrub on December 31, 2018, 12:00:35 AM

Someone has realized Seaborne do not have any business as the moment.

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1019649/
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: ferryfan on December 31, 2018, 12:01:13 PM
The Seaborne contract was big news on the BBC yesterday, a company with no ships, no staff, no assets getting a £14 million contract, makes sense!
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: ccs on December 31, 2018, 09:57:56 PM
This gave me a laugh on twitter earlier  ;D

Keith Searle  @kwrs 12h12 hours ago
Photos are emerging of the consortium that have been handed the Ramsgate to Ostend contract to run from March. #itsnearerthetruththanyouthink

(https://i.imgur.com/g1BQ04I.jpg)
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: Cladyman on January 03, 2019, 06:03:59 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46748193

Maybe we should all club together - do a better job than these guys!
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: Kieran on January 03, 2019, 07:13:41 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46748193

Maybe we should all club together - do a better job than these guys!

My favourite bit is the "log in" on their website is an image that links to google.

Long as I don't have to build a booking engine, i'm in!
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: giftgrub on January 03, 2019, 08:16:32 PM
You could not make this stuff up, just bizarre.

Given the size of companies like Stena and P&O were not given contracts because they did not have capacity they give the Seaborne people a contract, on documents posted on the Facebook the four Ferries they intended to use are owned/operated by Tirrena and by my reckoning of the four only three actually exist as one seems to have been named twice with an old name and new name.
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: Collision-course on January 05, 2019, 12:26:02 AM
This all sounds very familiar, 2011?
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: awaityourreply on January 05, 2019, 01:58:39 AM
Not sure if you were referring to the MS Julia vessel that last operated commercial passenger services to/from Cork and Swansea in South Wales between 2010/2011.

No service ran after 2011 which resulted in the end of Cork's passenger ferry links with Wales.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swansea_Cork_ferry
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: Collision-course on January 06, 2019, 07:08:50 PM
Not sure if you were referring to the MS Julia vessel that last operated commercial passenger services to/from Cork and Swansea in South Wales between 2010/2011.

No service ran after 2011 which resulted in the end of Cork's passenger ferry links with Wales.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swansea_Cork_ferry
Close, there was around that time, an issue around parties wanting to re-establish redundant ferry routes with questionable tonnage., there are even posts on this forum if you go back far enough.
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: giftgrub on January 07, 2019, 08:07:15 PM
From the Rt Hon

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/haulage-update-7-january-2019?fbclid=IwAR3ZKVjz5YemBdE6Qc2tD41oeVnGTuSR9zysMdevScn7gHX5-gqfwRiRHxk
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: Cladyman on January 09, 2019, 02:45:31 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46799136


Belgiums are talking sense, too high risk for them with no gaurentees.

They may have some good people involved in setting it up but virtually impossible to do in timeframe
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: Cladyman on February 09, 2019, 09:04:29 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47182361


So the government  have pulled the plug on Seaborne Ramsgate deal, no surprise.

Didn’t realise hat they had Irish backing.

Has ASL any other involvment in roro?
Title: Re: Uk govt to fund Brexit ferries english channel
Post by: DaveW1946 on February 09, 2019, 06:33:55 PM
Checking Arklow Shipping website thet have 40+ ships but they are container carriers or bulk transport, i.e. no roro's