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Re: Stena Line fleet movements Reply #1320 on: March 02, 2014, 11:51:47 PM



Re: Stena Line fleet movements Reply #1321 on: March 04, 2014, 11:32:58 PM
Images of the freshly painted Stena RoRo owned Dieppe Seaways in Dover at the bottom of the page on this link. The former Superfast X is expected to replace the Stena Nordica on the Dublin - Holyhead service in Spring 2015..

http://www.doverferryphotosforums.co.uk/mv-seafrance-moliere-past-and-present/



Re: Stena Line fleet movements Reply #1322 on: March 06, 2014, 11:07:21 PM
Some interesting background info on the Hoa Sen - Stena RoRo's Stena Egeria

http://www.tradewindsnews.com/weekly/332365/stena-roro-buys-troubled-ropax-ferry-from-vinalines

A controversial vessel said to have played a major role in the downfall of Vinashin Ocean Shipping is heading for a new career under Swedish ownership
Vietnamese state-owned shipping conglomerate Vinalines has finally managed to offload the controversial 24,400-gt ropax ferry Hoa Sen (built 2001) — and well-placed sources close to Stena RoRo say the Swedish company has sealed a deal to acquire the ship.

Vinalines inherited the Hoa Sen when it was forced to take over bankrupt compatriot Vinashin Ocean Shipping. It is the last of seven arrested vessels that Vinalines has been attempting to sell as Vinashin Ocean’s operations are being wound down ahead of it being closed down.

No pricing details have been made public but TradeWinds is told Stena RoRo scooped a bargain.

The sale brings to a close a particularly grim episode in the history of Vietnamese shipping. The Hoa Sen is widely regarded as playing a significant role in Vinashin Ocean’s downfall. The company bought the ship in 2007 for EUR 60m (then $87m) as part of a plan to launch a luxury cruise ferry service along the Vietnamese coast.

Two even larger cruise ferries were acquired shortly afterwards from Italian interests. The deal was later called off, forcing Vinashin Ocean to forfeit hefty deposits it had already put down.

The Hoa Sen’s trading career under Vietnamese ownership was notably brief as it only managed to complete a handful of voyages before growing losses caused the service to be abandoned.

The ship has largely been laid up ever since. In recent years, it has been languishing under arrest in China after a brief charter to a Chinese operator ended in acrimonious circumstances.

Restoration planned

Stena RoRo plans to restore the ship in a Chinese shipyard before returning it to service under the name Stena Egeria. The vessel is described as being in reasonable mechanical condition but in need of a lot of painting and cleaning.

The ship is deemed a perfect fit for Stena RoRo, which has been looking for modern, economical vessels that can easily be converted to run on methanol or be retrofitted with scrubbers to meet European emissions regulations that come into effect next year.

The Hoa Sen fits the bill as it is powered by two MAN Diesel & Turbo medium-speed main engines and has a relatively spacious casing and funnel that can accommodate scrubbing equipment. It is one of a large class of ropax ferries built in Italy by Visentini Cantiere.

The vessel type appears to be a favourite of Stena RoRo, which recently bought two others, the Trinacria and Partenope (both built 2002), from TTT Lines of Italy in an en-bloc deal worth EUR 48m ($65m). The pair have been chartered back to TTT Lines.


http://www.vietnambreakingnews.com/2013/09/troubled-vinalines-leaves-crew-members-high-and-dry-in-china/#.Uxj_kT9_vKM

Crew members aboard a boat owned by Vietnam’s troubled state-run shipping firm Vinalines have been stuck in China for months and are complaining about poor living conditions and a lack of basic necessities.

The Hoa Sen boat has been anchored at a shipyard in Zhejiang Province without fuel, food or fresh water for the past two months.

Its crew members said in an email to news website VnExpress they want the government to allow them to go home.

The boat has no lights at night and it’s located in a “dangerous” location where many boats pass, VnExpress reported Monday, citing the email.

Crew members have not received money for food from the boat’s owner – Vinashinlines, a subsidiary of the Vietnam National Shipping Lines (Vinalines) – and they are all out of their own money.

“Sometimes we have to pick vegetables from the mountain and catch fish and crabs,” the email said.

They only have around 30 liters of fresh water, and they have stopped bathing.

They had worked on the boat for 13 months by the end of October but have only gotten paid for two months, said the crew members, all of whom have families to feed back home.

The Hoa Sen (Lotus) Ship was transferred to Vinalines from shipbuilder Vinashin, which nearly went bankrupt after piling up debts of $4.5 billion in 2010.

It was one of the five bad investments that put eight Vinashin officials in jail. The former board chairman had his 20-year sentence upheld at an appeal in August.

The used, Italian-made high-speed seagoing vessel was bought for $87.8 million in 2007. But it caused operational losses of $22.5 million and was docked in 2009 after 39 north-south trips.

http://saigon-today.blogspot.ie/2009/10/vinashin-hoa-sen-in-cam-ranh-bay.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+SaigonToday+(saigon+today)

http://talkvietnam.com/2012/10/shipbuilder-vinashin-struggles-to-regain-footing-as-revenues-plunge/#.UxkCCj9_vKM

and if this is accurate, it could explain the long time in drydock

http://www.vietnambreakingnews.com/2013/03/old-cargo-ships-pose-environmental-issues-for-authorities/#.UxkCez9_vKM

The Hoa Sen (Lotus) Ship, operating under Vinashinlines, lies idle in port due to a crack in her hull. Over 40 cargo ships are in a similar situation nationwide because the current law on environmental protection doesn’t allow them to be scrapped. — VNA/VNS Photo
« Last Edit: March 06, 2014, 11:18:35 PM by giftgrub »



Re: Stena Line fleet movements Reply #1323 on: March 07, 2014, 12:55:01 AM


Don't understand the bit about 40 ships being in that condition as they weren't allowed to be scrapped.  Hoa Sen is way too young to be scrapped for a start.  TBH she is probably in very poor condition internally given the humidity out there and the length of time she was idle.  Came across this article from 2011 which mentions cracks in her hull being repaired In 2008. 

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When ill fate sinks the titan lotus
Posted on OCTOBER 1, 2011 Written by TUOITRENEWS
There is nothing to be proud of US$67 million Hoa Sen (lotus) ship formerly owned by the beleaguered state-run Vinashin with its shameful history including stopping operation after a short time, getting detained in Korea and currently docking dormant in China.

The Hoa Sen shipPhoto: Tuoi TreThe Hoa Sen shipPhoto: Tuoi Tre
Even when the ship is now doing nothing at a port in China, it still continues its loss-making saga every day by incurring massive expenses on crew wages, docking, insurance and machinery maintenance fees, and a daily depreciation of as many as $11,000.

Purchased from Italy in 2007 by troubled state-owned shipbuilder Vinashin, Hoa Sen ship soon had to go under maintenance in December 2008 after just 40 trips between northern Quang Ninh Province and southern Ho Chi Minh City due to cracks found at the bottom.

The ship’s ownership was then transferred to Vinalines, another state-run shipping firm as part of the restructure process at Vinashin as ordered by the government, following its failure in clearing the massive debt of VND86.6 trillion ($4.33 billion).

From April 2009, the ship was docked at Cam Ranh Bay in Vietnam’s Khanh Hoa Province until last February, when it left for China under a leasing contract inked between Vinalines and China-based Lianyungang CK Ferry Co Ltd with the daily rent of $16,500.

This shed a beam of hope for the revitalization of this titanic ship, but not for long.

Seized in Korea

Just three months later, the ship was detained to serve as a collateral at a port in Korea over a $4-million debt that Vinashin Lines owed to Singapore-based GMS Marine.

Vinalines said the detention came after Vinashinlines failed to clear a $4.15-million bail for a lawsuit with GMS Marine.

The Singaporean shipping company then demanded a ‘fee’ of $6.5 million to release the ship.

A Vinalines’ top official told Tuoi Tre that the company had negotiated to get the ship back, but he “did not know how much Vinalines had spent on the task.”

Yet Vinashinlines has lost more than just that $6.5 million.

The detention in Korea has caused Hoa Sen ship to lose its leasing contract with Lianyungang CK Ferry due to a clause in the contract stating that the deal could be canceled in case the ship stops operating for 15 consecutive days.

Bui Quoc Anh, Vinalines’ deputy general director, confirmed with Tuoi Tre that the contract had been canceled, adding the ship is doing nothing in China’s Lianyungang port since last May.

The lost contract dealt a loss of $2.4-million to Vinashin Lines.

Vinalines said it had been seeking the government’s approval to put the ship on sale while also searching for partners to lease it.

http://talkvietnam.com/2011/10/when-ill-fate-sinks-the-titan-lotus/

I think we have a ferry even more cursed than Stena Allegra!

Steve in Belfast (suburbia)

NI Ferry Site

Flickr: www.flickr.com/tarbyonline



Re: Stena Line fleet movements Reply #1324 on: March 07, 2014, 09:13:29 PM
Here's an interesting thought , what if Stena Nordica is not replacing Stena Europe but is instead replacing Celtic Horizon , which would instead Replace the Stena Europe at Fishguard , passenger capacities of both Stena Nordica and Celtic Horizon suit both routes better with Stena Nordica doing Rosslare - Cherbourg and Celtic Horizon doing Rosslare - Fishguard.



Re: Stena Line fleet movements Reply #1325 on: March 07, 2014, 09:54:53 PM
Here's an interesting thought , what if Stena Nordica is not replacing Stena Europe but is instead replacing Celtic Horizon , which would instead Replace the Stena Europe at Fishguard , passenger capacities of both Stena Nordica and Celtic Horizon suit both routes better with Stena Nordica doing Rosslare - Cherbourg and Celtic Horizon doing Rosslare - Fishguard.

With Inishmore moving to Dublin to replace Swift and Epsilon and Epsilon moving to Rosslare - Pembroke, may not be a milion miles away from whats going to happen for 2015 !



Re: Stena Line fleet movements Reply #1326 on: March 07, 2014, 11:00:37 PM
Exactly what I said when the news of SF X's likely destination first broke.  Nordica has already proved herself running to France, although Horizon perhaps has too much cabin accommodation for Fishguard.  The cabin block on the main passenger deck could be knocked through without too much difficulty from what I can see which would free up some further space for passenger facilities, though there is no lift access to the cabins on the deck above AFAIK.  Whatever happens Horizon is likely to be retained and refurbished rather than sold on.

However Inishmore to Dublin is very likely IMHO if SF X does go to Dublin which would allow Swift to retire (her lack of freight capability has to be a handicap and passengers and cars aren't the money makers they used to be).  She would be a more equal running partner to the big U and if I'm honest I think she is wasted down at Rosslare.   The question for me is whether IF would put Epsilon on the Pembroke run or the France run.
Steve in Belfast (suburbia)

NI Ferry Site

Flickr: www.flickr.com/tarbyonline



Re: Stena Line fleet movements Reply #1327 on: March 08, 2014, 09:44:50 AM
Here's an interesting thought , what if Stena Nordica is not replacing Stena Europe but is instead replacing Celtic Horizon , which would instead Replace the Stena Europe at Fishguard , passenger capacities of both Stena Nordica and Celtic Horizon suit both routes better with Stena Nordica doing Rosslare - Cherbourg and Celtic Horizon doing Rosslare - Fishguard.

With Inishmore moving to Dublin to replace Swift and Epsilon and Epsilon moving to Rosslare - Pembroke, may not be a milion miles away from whats going to happen for 2015 !

Is the IOI moving to Dublin, or is this just a rumour??



Re: Stena Line fleet movements Reply #1328 on: March 08, 2014, 12:28:37 PM
Here's an interesting thought , what if Stena Nordica is not replacing Stena Europe but is instead replacing Celtic Horizon , which would instead Replace the Stena Europe at Fishguard , passenger capacities of both Stena Nordica and Celtic Horizon suit both routes better with Stena Nordica doing Rosslare - Cherbourg and Celtic Horizon doing Rosslare - Fishguard.

With Inishmore moving to Dublin to replace Swift and Epsilon and Epsilon moving to Rosslare - Pembroke, may not be a milion miles away from whats going to happen for 2015 !

Is the IOI moving to Dublin, or is this just a rumour??
Interesting if it happened, would the IOI need more cabins for the French run? wonder if could you put them accommodation block onto the deck area down aft where the glass seating area is. Any idea how long it would take the IOI to do a Dublin - Cherbourg run?
 As it stands the Epsilon could not take a full Swift sailing & is not geared for foot passenger or coach groups. IOI would be a better running alongside Ulysses as she was built for Dublin - Holyhead route. Even for dry docking in January no need to move vessels all you need to do is suspend the IOI normal run Dublin- Holyhead/Cherbourg run.
Ferry Master



Re: Stena Line fleet movements Reply #1329 on: March 08, 2014, 01:35:32 PM
I think someone mentioned that the IOI has more cabins than the Epsilon.
They could possibly convert the Veranda area to reclining seats with some sort of electric blind that is closed at night.



Re: Stena Line fleet movements Reply #1330 on: March 08, 2014, 01:39:46 PM
Another Big factor that must be taken in to consideration and I know both stena and Irish ferries will  is fuel . What ships are mor economical to send to France??   Nordica or Celtic horizon. Inishmore or epsilon .  I bet the two Italian vessels would win hands down.



Re: Stena Line fleet movements Reply #1331 on: March 09, 2014, 12:19:33 AM
As we are in the 3rd mouth of 2014.  We hear and read about the changes that is going to happen in 2015 as regarding Stena line & Irish ferries.  At this moment lets get over 2014 first.  Because anything could happen in the next 10 mouths.  As Stena line could be looking for other tonage in the mean time, we never know.  Right now to my opinon if the Horizon or Epsilon was ever use on the southern corridor they wouldn,t be ideal for the 2 routes as they are only stern loaders.  So it would take longer to load or discharge cargo.  And as Pembroke and Rosslare have double deck ramps too.  Irish ferries wants to make use of them.  I would like to asked someone on this site what are the loading like on the Pembroke to Rosslare, does that route carry very good loadings. 



Re: Stena Line fleet movements Reply #1332 on: March 09, 2014, 01:15:23 PM
As we are in the 3rd mouth of 2014.  We hear and read about the changes that is going to happen in 2015 as regarding Stena line & Irish ferries.  At this moment lets get over 2014 first.  Because anything could happen in the next 10 mouths.  As Stena line could be looking for other tonage in the mean time, we never know.  Right now to my opinon if the Horizon or Epsilon was ever use on the southern corridor they wouldn,t be ideal for the 2 routes as they are only stern loaders.  So it would take longer to load or discharge cargo.  And as Pembroke and Rosslare have double deck ramps too.  Irish ferries wants to make use of them.  I would like to asked someone on this site what are the loading like on the Pembroke to Rosslare, does that route carry very good loadings.

Whilst I don't have any current figures to hand, general consensus seems to be that if either Irish Ferries or Stena where to close their Rosslare to Wales route the remaining ship would be able to cope with the carryings of both routes for most of the year (especially if that ship was IoI).
Steve in Belfast (suburbia)

NI Ferry Site

Flickr: www.flickr.com/tarbyonline



Re: Stena Line fleet movements Reply #1333 on: March 09, 2014, 01:37:21 PM
Getting this forum back on track .... With regards to Superfast VII and VIII, In addition to the maintenance already undertaken on VII a couple of weekends ago and her second upcoming weekend off (below) 22-25 March, Stena Superfast VIII will be off service at the layover berth at Loch Ryan Port from 0200-1500hrs on Sunday 30th March. Her final trip will be the 2330 ex Belfast on Saturday 29th until she resumes with the 1530 ex Cairnryan on Sunday.

And the former Superfast X will be joining the Irish Sea Stena Line Fleet before the end of 2014.



Re: Stena Line fleet movements Reply #1334 on: March 09, 2014, 01:39:57 PM
EDIT: Duplicate of giftgrub's last post..
Steve in Belfast (suburbia)

NI Ferry Site

Flickr: www.flickr.com/tarbyonline