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Title: new stena ships
Post by: stenaplus on June 14, 2018, 08:34:11 PM
are they all built to same spec
if so how would design for birkinhead Belfast suit Holyhead dublin
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: Steven on June 14, 2018, 08:51:59 PM
They are already at least 3 variations with both DFDS and Brittany Ferries getting their own take on the design.  As for the design suiting both, think what a modern ferry is.  Its a lorry/car park with a restaurant, a bar, a shop, some entertainment and some cabins.  In the case of Holyhead it could just be a case of not using all the cabins - after all the passenger capacity of 1000 is adequate alongside adventurer.

More on the class

https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-e-flexer-overview/

https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-e-flexer/

Edit: just to clarify I personally feel Holyhead will get its own version, but if they didnít it wouldnít be the end of the world either.  To date Stena havenít gone into detail if there will be any variation.  It could well be that cabins will be replaced with passenger spaces for example, as looks like will be the case on the DFDS example.
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: IFPete on June 15, 2018, 03:55:03 PM
One criticism freight drivers have with Superfast X is the lack of available cabins.

I personally would not rule out all three vessels being similar to allow flexibity during drydocking.

Irish ferries provide these free of charge as part of the price to the freight community.

 
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: RorieLen on June 16, 2018, 09:33:43 PM
Irish ferries provide these free of charge as part of the price to the freight community.

Only Irish Ferries?!
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: Steven on June 18, 2018, 01:17:04 AM
One criticism freight drivers have with Superfast X is the lack of available cabins.

I personally would not rule out all three vessels being similar to allow flexibity during drydocking.

Irish ferries provide these free of charge as part of the price to the freight community.

I canít think of any ferry company on the Irish Sea that doesnít!  To avoid confusion it is a berth provided by Irish Ferries and others, not a single occupancy cabin!  On the part of Stena, in the event that all cabin berths are occupied on SFX (not as regular an occurrence as some would have us believe) then the person making the booking is informed at the time of their booking, and allowed to continue or not.  If a haulier goes ahead and books the driver a crossing without a cabin or leaves it to the last minute  itís hardly Stenaís fault tbh!  Itís not like they have a monopoly on central corridor services.
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: Davy Jones on November 27, 2018, 10:55:05 PM
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/timelapse-construction-giant-ferry-set-15473392
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: giftgrub on November 28, 2018, 09:15:51 PM
Side view of E-Flexer 1 here

http://news.cision.com/stena-line/r/stena-line-s-three-irish-sea-e-flexer-ships-now-in-construction,c2684885
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: Steven on December 01, 2018, 06:52:39 PM
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/timelapse-construction-giant-ferry-set-15473392
Same video (minus advertising) here along with some pictures taken at different stages

https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-e-flexer-number-1-so-far/
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: giftgrub on December 09, 2018, 10:38:41 PM
More info

https://www.shippax.com/en/news/stenas-first-e-flexer-almost-ready-to-be-floated-up.aspx

https://www.shippax.com/en/news/and-here-is-e-flexer-number-two.aspx
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: giftgrub on December 20, 2018, 08:20:47 PM
E-Flexer have appeared on new look Stena RoRo site

https://www.stenaroro.com/what-we-offer/fleet-list/

Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: giftgrub on January 14, 2019, 08:29:57 PM
E-Flexer 1 is painted and ready for float out on Wednesday

Will be on link below.

https://www.linkedin.com/company/stena-line/
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: giftgrub on January 15, 2019, 11:20:23 PM
Reminder 7.30 am CET which is 6.30 am Ireland sees the live launch of E-Flexer 1 in China

To see the build of E-Flexer check link below.

Would assume they will post videos on site after launch.

https://youtu.be/DU6KzkcYj0I
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: giftgrub on January 16, 2019, 06:37:28 AM
Steam Estrid launch on now

https://lnkd.in/gyzetxb

Interesting name.
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: giftgrub on April 11, 2019, 08:15:54 PM
Stena E-Flexer 2 launching this Monday - April 15

Stena E?
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: giftgrub on April 12, 2019, 07:47:35 PM
Watch the launch of the all new Stena E ?

https://mobile.twitter.com/stenaline/status/1116385845534130179?s=21&fbclid=IwAR1yQ1MEgPsrmLvfVbrzapUEynw-CrRnGp1DcK1wJDjbF1-5u5RQBrDDvos

Monday morning
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: giftgrub on April 15, 2019, 06:33:14 PM
Stena Edda it is

https://www.niferry.co.uk/pr-stena-lines-second-next-generation-ferry-stena-edda-floats-out-in-china/amp/

Due on the Belfast Birkenhead route Spring 2020
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: Meet the dockers on April 15, 2019, 10:57:34 PM
whats the plan for the ship between now and spring 2020?
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: RorieLen on April 16, 2019, 05:36:34 AM
whats the plan for the ship between now and spring 2020?

Fitting out. Itís clear from the photos that she is currently just an empty shell and thereís lots of work to be done.
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: Steven on May 04, 2019, 08:35:37 AM
whats the plan for the ship between now and spring 2020?

Fitting out. Itís clear from the photos that she is currently just an empty shell and thereís lots of work to be done.
This

Things like cabins and public spaces need to be installed for instance.  Still a lot of work to be done.  Thereís also a rather lengthy delivery voyage to take place as well!
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: Davy Jones on June 03, 2019, 05:06:40 PM
Have we heard how Stena Estrid is progressing? Fit-out, Sea Trials etc? Is it all on time?
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: Steven on June 04, 2019, 02:43:55 AM
Have we heard how Stena Estrid is progressing? Fit-out, Sea Trials etc? Is it all on time?
All going to plan
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: Matt73 on June 04, 2019, 03:02:29 PM
There was a really good Channel 5 documentary in the UK over the weekend about the QE2.  I'm sure it's on the 5 catch-up site if you missed it.

One of the many interesting revelations, to me at least, regarded the original steam propulsion system.  The designers had stipulated 4, but Cunard reduced the number to 3 to save money.  This decision was blamed for many of the subsequent problems Cunard had with the propulsion system; the boilers were flogged to death and they couldn't take them offline to conduct routine maintenance.  In the end they ripped the lot out and installed diesel engines.

No, I haven't gone off thread!  The question I have regards the E-Flexers, which have been built with only two catapillar engines, as I understand it.  Design and construction has come on in leaps and bounds since the 1960s, but I wonder how confident we are that the E-flexers will not suffer the same fate as the QE2?   I know that they are designed so that each ship can operate with just one propeller working, but the Estrid will be operating a fairly punishing schedule and the three for BF will be thrashed in the Bay of Biscay. 

Approps of the BF ships, neither will make the service speed of the Cap Finistere, as I understand it, so will BF be changing the Spannish schedules once Gailica and Salamanca enter service?  Also, do we know yet where the third one is likley to be placed?

Thanks.

Matt
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: Steven on June 05, 2019, 10:02:03 PM
There was a really good Channel 5 documentary in the UK over the weekend about the QE2.  I'm sure it's on the 5 catch-up site if you missed it.

One of the many interesting revelations, to me at least, regarded the original steam propulsion system.  The designers had stipulated 4, but Cunard reduced the number to 3 to save money.  This decision was blamed for many of the subsequent problems Cunard had with the propulsion system; the boilers were flogged to death and they couldn't take them offline to conduct routine maintenance.  In the end they ripped the lot out and installed diesel engines.

No, I haven't gone off thread!  The question I have regards the E-Flexers, which have been built with only two catapillar engines, as I understand it.  Design and construction has come on in leaps and bounds since the 1960s, but I wonder how confident we are that the E-flexers will not suffer the same fate as the QE2?   I know that they are designed so that each ship can operate with just one propeller working, but the Estrid will be operating a fairly punishing schedule and the three for BF will be thrashed in the Bay of Biscay. 

Approps of the BF ships, neither will make the service speed of the Cap Finistere, as I understand it, so will BF be changing the Spannish schedules once Gailica and Salamanca enter service?  Also, do we know yet where the third one is likley to be placed?

Thanks.

Matt
To be fair the entire Visentini series have managed fine on two engines.  Stena Superfast X only ever runs on two engines (as do the North Channel superfasts).  Epsilon runs on Dublin to Holyhead with only 2 engines and her reliability last year put Ulysses to shame!  My only slight concern would be the DFDS example with her more intense Calais schedule, but I'm sure DFDS/Stena/Deltamarin have considered this.  Do bear in mind the E-Flexer series are designed to attain 18 knots in service on just one engine!  Cap Finistere barely seems to exceed 24 kts looking at her history on ais so perhaps there won't be a need for any timetable changes, especially considering the E-Flexer's are designed for a faster turnaround and 24kts running.  It doesn't seem to be concerning Brittany Ferries anyhow given they have now ordered three.
Title: Re: new stena ships
Post by: Matt73 on June 07, 2019, 03:02:02 PM
There was a really good Channel 5 documentary in the UK over the weekend about the QE2.  I'm sure it's on the 5 catch-up site if you missed it.

One of the many interesting revelations, to me at least, regarded the original steam propulsion system.  The designers had stipulated 4, but Cunard reduced the number to 3 to save money.  This decision was blamed for many of the subsequent problems Cunard had with the propulsion system; the boilers were flogged to death and they couldn't take them offline to conduct routine maintenance.  In the end they ripped the lot out and installed diesel engines.

No, I haven't gone off thread!  The question I have regards the E-Flexers, which have been built with only two catapillar engines, as I understand it.  Design and construction has come on in leaps and bounds since the 1960s, but I wonder how confident we are that the E-flexers will not suffer the same fate as the QE2?   I know that they are designed so that each ship can operate with just one propeller working, but the Estrid will be operating a fairly punishing schedule and the three for BF will be thrashed in the Bay of Biscay. 

Approps of the BF ships, neither will make the service speed of the Cap Finistere, as I understand it, so will BF be changing the Spannish schedules once Gailica and Salamanca enter service?  Also, do we know yet where the third one is likley to be placed?

Thanks.

Matt
To be fair the entire Visentini series have managed fine on two engines.  Stena Superfast X only ever runs on two engines (as do the North Channel superfasts).  Epsilon runs on Dublin to Holyhead with only 2 engines and her reliability last year put Ulysses to shame!  My only slight concern would be the DFDS example with her more intense Calais schedule, but I'm sure DFDS/Stena/Deltamarin have considered this.  Do bear in mind the E-Flexer series are designed to attain 18 knots in service on just one engine!  Cap Finistere barely seems to exceed 24 kts looking at her history on ais so perhaps there won't be a need for any timetable changes, especially considering the E-Flexer's are designed for a faster turnaround and 24kts running.  It doesn't seem to be concerning Brittany Ferries anyhow given they have now ordered three.


Thanks Steven,

I was hoping you would allay my concerns abs you have!

Matt