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Title: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on April 06, 2018, 02:21:02 PM
Work must be almost completed on the transformation she left dry dock and is expected in Dublin next Tuesday at 16:00.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Davy Jones on April 07, 2018, 08:45:52 AM
Love to see a photo of her alongside Jonathan Swift.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Steven on April 07, 2018, 08:02:28 PM
Work must be almost completed on the transformation she left dry dock and is expected in Dublin next Tuesday at 16:00.
I wouldn’t bet on it ;)
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on April 09, 2018, 10:14:31 PM
Work must be almost completed on the transformation she left dry dock and is expected in Dublin next Tuesday at 16:00.
I wouldn’t bet on it ;)

You might be right!
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Steven on April 11, 2018, 06:14:54 PM
Work must be almost completed on the transformation she left dry dock and is expected in Dublin next Tuesday at 16:00.
I wouldn’t bet on it ;)

You might be right!
There’s a while to go yet unless I’m being told porky pies.

MES deployment today so she turned round
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on April 13, 2018, 11:51:17 AM
Scheduled to depart Belfast at 14:00 eta Dublin about 19:00. Wait and see!
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: giftgrub on April 13, 2018, 10:16:43 PM
Has arrived in Dublin port.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: SEA on April 16, 2018, 11:41:41 AM
I posted a Picture of Both Dublin and Jonathan Swift on Shipspotting (Thanks Gift grub for your suggestion) in Dublin Port Today . please enlarge  to see as my photographic skills are not great

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2840554#
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: giftgrub on April 16, 2018, 09:43:49 PM
Cool image, they look good together. Nothing wrong with your camera skills.

Have to say, I think the way the Dublin Swift name is presented on the new vessel just looks wrong, would have made  the Irish Ferries name and logo bigger and put Dublin Swift same as on Jonathan Swift, though the funnels look good.

Will be interesting to see what the new vessel looks like inside.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: SEA on April 17, 2018, 08:45:21 AM
Yes I would agree Signage looks a complete miss match, the "Irish Ferries" is too small  and Dublin Swift is too big. Another interesting thing I noticed is there seems to be no open Deck space for Passengers to go outside . maybe someone knows if there is or not ?? the Jonathan swift has rails on the roof  the Dublin swift appears not to have any.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on April 17, 2018, 01:40:25 PM
Yes I would agree Signage looks a complete miss match, the "Irish Ferries" is too small  and Dublin Swift is too big. Another interesting thing I noticed is there seems to be no open Deck space for Passengers to go outside . maybe someone knows if there is or not ?? the Jonathan swift has rails on the roof  the Dublin swift appears not to have any.

There is accessible outside deck space at the back of the ship which you can see here either side of the stern ramp.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Steven on April 17, 2018, 09:29:20 PM
Yes I would agree Signage looks a complete miss match, the "Irish Ferries" is too small  and Dublin Swift is too big. Another interesting thing I noticed is there seems to be no open Deck space for Passengers to go outside . maybe someone knows if there is or not ?? the Jonathan swift has rails on the roof  the Dublin swift appears not to have any.

There is accessible outside deck space at the back of the ship which you can see here either side of the stern ramp.

Exactly, though it looks a little different to that now ;).  As for the livery, I’ve seen worse.  The “swift” is a nice (albeit maybe a little big) touch.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: jgf on April 19, 2018, 01:57:34 PM
Can anyone shed any light on why the timetable change is on 2 different days?

Swift dep. Dublin at 08:30 from May 2nd (change from 08:45)
Swfit dep. Holyhead at 11:30 from April 24th (change from 11:50)


Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on April 19, 2018, 10:21:43 PM
Can anyone shed any light on why the timetable change is on 2 different days?

Swift dep. Dublin at 08:30 from May 2nd (change from 08:45)
Swfit dep. Holyhead at 11:30 from April 24th (change from 11:50)

It might have something to do with new ferry slot times allocated by the Port Company which have been revised in April and again for July to accommodate the WB sailings to Cherbourg and again in September to take account of WB arriving on the Central Corridor and Epsilon transferring to Cherbourg.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: RorieLen on April 20, 2018, 07:13:05 AM
I think the Holyhead departure is being brought forward as the Dublin Swift will be using T5 and she has to clear the berth for the Stena Adventurer arrival.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on April 20, 2018, 11:01:20 AM
I think the Holyhead departure is being brought forward as the Dublin Swift will be using T5 and she has to clear the berth for the Stena Adventurer arrival.

That could well be the reason as the Salt Island berth is undergoing some renovation works.
Dublin Swift made her first (and quite a slow) crossing to Holyhead this morning and is atm berthed at T5 as the Jonathan Swift is on the regular Salt Island berth.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: SEA on April 24, 2018, 01:10:43 PM
Some nice footage of the New Dublin Swift arriving in Holyhead the other day....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXrQub_wgkE
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: marthyrarth on April 24, 2018, 02:00:47 PM
When is the Dublin Swift starting?

Also, any pictures of the interior?   Is there no upper lounge?
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: SEA on April 24, 2018, 04:02:33 PM
I am guessing Thursday , no Swift sailings tomorrow which probably means stores and equipment switch over .......

Irish Ferries regrets to advise that due to operational reasons, the 08:45hrs Swift Fast Craft sailing is cancelled.

Passengers can be accommodated on either the 0805 or 2055hrs Ulysses Cruise Ferry. Check-in time is 30 minutes prior to departure.

There is no need to call at this time. However should neither of these options be suitable, please contact one of our offices as follows:


Irish Ferries apologises for any inconvenience caused by this disruption.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: marthyrarth on April 24, 2018, 05:24:13 PM
Surely it's not beyond Irish Ferries marketing team to let people know when the new craft is starting.  She can't be much of an improvement or surely we would have heard a bit more by now.

Also, if sailings are cancelled an explanation would be useful.  Explaining to say sailings cancelled to transfer to new craft a bit better than saying nothing and making people wonder if its due to weather.

Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: IFPete on April 24, 2018, 06:40:19 PM
Its possible they are still awaiting a green light regarding safty certificates
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: marthyrarth on April 24, 2018, 08:46:10 PM
They could still let us know...............  they do have a press and pr communication department?

Could still have some interior pictures too...
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Steven on April 24, 2018, 09:07:48 PM
Surely it's not beyond Irish Ferries marketing team to let people know when the new craft is starting.  She can't be much of an improvement or surely we would have heard a bit more by now.

Also, if sailings are cancelled an explanation would be useful.  Explaining to say sailings cancelled to transfer to new craft a bit better than saying nothing and making people wonder if its due to weather.

Perhaps its still a bit up in the air?  They wouldn't want to be telling people they are going on a "new" ship only to disappoint them, would they?  Oh wait......

They could still let us know...............  they do have a press and pr communication department?

Could still have some interior pictures too...
I believe they have been quite busy over the past few days!


According to Matrix Ship Management on Facebook she passed her host nation inspection today and so is cleared for service.  Swift is cancelled tomorrow so looks like a possible debut on Thursday.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on April 25, 2018, 01:30:41 PM
I took a few photos of the new and old Dublin Swifts from the deck of a docking Stena Adventurer at 0545 this morning. In one pic you can see both Swifts with Ulysses in the distance approaching her berth.
They files are too big to put here so I posted them on this link feel free...
https://fastferryfan.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on April 25, 2018, 02:30:15 PM
Confirmed the HSC Dublin Swift takes over from tomorrow morning's 0830 departure from Dublin. The Jonathan Swift is scheduled to be handed to her new owners and to depart Dublin for the last time on Friday morning possibly being guided out of the port with a Pilot onboard.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Steven on April 26, 2018, 11:58:43 AM
Confirmed the HSC Dublin Swift takes over from tomorrow morning's 0830 departure from Dublin. The Jonathan Swift is scheduled to be handed to her new owners and to depart Dublin for the last time on Friday morning possibly being guided out of the port with a Pilot onboard.
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Cancelled due to “weather”.  Must be rougher than it looks...: ::)
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on April 26, 2018, 10:25:13 PM
Confirmed the HSC Dublin Swift takes over from tomorrow morning's 0830 departure from Dublin. The Jonathan Swift is scheduled to be handed to her new owners and to depart Dublin for the last time on Friday morning possibly being guided out of the port with a Pilot onboard.
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Cancelled due to “weather”.  Must be rougher than it looks...: ::)
Typical! She was taken out for a quick sprint around the bay this afternoon clocking a fairly impressive 36 knots.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: SEA on April 27, 2018, 07:45:37 AM
HSC JONATHAN SWIFT is to be renamed HSC CECILIA PAYNE and is due to depart tomorrow morning Saturday morning 28.4.18. New owners have taken possession.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: IFPete on April 27, 2018, 11:25:53 AM
When will she be reclassified as HSC.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Davy Jones on April 27, 2018, 05:33:24 PM
As I suspected, she seems slower than J. Swift - been making 30-32 Kts on today's crossings. Her run out yesterday took her up to 36.8kts, but that would have been unloaded. Have running times been adjusted to suit her?
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: LongTimeReader on April 27, 2018, 09:46:44 PM
Times sort of adjusted based on what IF site says.

8:45, arriving at 10:45, now departs at 8:30. 11:50 sailing now departs at 11:30. Arrival time stays same. Second sailings of the day are 2 hours each. Probably will take slightly longer than 2 hours. So 2 hours is now the shortest crossing.

I was on the JS back in September '16 and we cruised across in fair weather at a top speed of 33 ktns. Took a little over 2 hours.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on April 28, 2018, 11:58:13 AM
I think most of those adjustments are due to using T5 at Holyhead. The former Jonathan Swift is getting ready to depart and will be heading for La Coruna this evening.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on April 28, 2018, 10:40:54 PM
The Jonathan Swift leaving Dublin and getting a send off from the port tugs short video at this link (not mine) and glad to see she's making over 40 knots on her way to her new life.
https://youtu.be/65v8-NNpHbU
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Steven on May 13, 2018, 06:49:37 AM
I think most of those adjustments are due to using T5 at Holyhead. The former Jonathan Swift is getting ready to depart and will be heading for La Coruna this evening.
She’s a slower vessel at sea (same power output as JS) and also to load/discharge.  Extra capacity aside, she has that narrow stern ramp remember.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: IFPete on May 13, 2018, 02:25:00 PM
She is slower at sea and has greater capacity for buses and vans than Jonathan Swift.

Hopefully moving to T5 will only be temperary.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Davy Jones on May 13, 2018, 03:14:00 PM
Why is she using T5 anyway? J. Swift used to use T2 on her early run and T3 on her later one.

Could they (Holyhead Ports) not use T4 for layups? I know there is no link-span there now but for much of the time it is empty - only used during fuel delivery to the shore tanks.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: RorieLen on May 13, 2018, 07:27:58 PM
Why is she using T5 anyway? J. Swift used to use T2 on her early run and T3 on her later one.

Could they (Holyhead Ports) not use T4 for layups? I know there is no link-span there now but for much of the time it is empty - only used during fuel delivery to the shore tanks.

I believe she doesn’t fit T2 in its current form. She uses T5 as she wouldn’t clear T3 in time for the morning arrival of Ulysses but leaves T5 just prior to Stena Adventurer going in.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: giftgrub on May 14, 2018, 09:19:00 PM
On board Dublin Swift


https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/first-look-dublin-swift-the-new-fast-ferry-to-holyhead-1.3494521?mode=amp

Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Steven on June 09, 2018, 12:54:46 AM
On board Dublin Swift


https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/travel/first-look-dublin-swift-the-new-fast-ferry-to-holyhead-1.3494521?mode=amp
Somehow they've managed to make her look even worse than the pictures I've seen before!  She does appear rather bland compared to her predecessor, but her interior does appear to be the direction Irish Ferries are moving in if the WB YEATS renders are anything to go by.  I just hope they don't do the same to Ulysses!
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: IFPete on June 09, 2018, 12:09:35 PM
Somehow i get the feeling Dublin Swift is only a transition to something else.

The Swift service is very popular due to its fast service to Holyhead , a nitch WB Yeats or its successor will not easily replace.

If Swift continues to attract high volumes as it consistantly has since the demise of the Dun Laoire - Holyhead service i see irish ferries placing an order for a purpose built Austal 112 or leasing or purchasing Leonardo Christina from Fred Olsen Group. Dublin Swift appears to be underpowered for its current mission and the fact that the stern ramp was not replaced during the drydock hints its future is somewhere else. 
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Steven on June 09, 2018, 05:48:51 PM
Somehow i get the feeling Dublin Swift is only a transition to something else.

The Swift service is very popular due to its fast service to Holyhead , a nitch WB Yeats or its successor will not easily replace.

If Swift continues to attract high volumes as it consistantly has since the demise of the Dun Laoire - Holyhead service i see irish ferries placing an order for a purpose built Austal 112 or leasing or purchasing Leonardo Christina from Fred Olsen Group. Dublin Swift appears to be underpowered for its current mission and the fact that the stern ramp was not replaced during the drydock hints its future is somewhere else.
Shes a transition to FSG777  :D
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: hhvferry on June 10, 2018, 10:14:00 PM
If Swift continues to attract high volumes as it consistantly has since the demise of the Dun Laoire - Holyhead service i see irish ferries placing an order for a purpose built Austal 112 or leasing or purchasing Leonardo Christina from Fred Olsen Group.
There's hundreds of fast ferries out there - why would IF want to pay over the odds for Leonora Christina? (Fred. Olsen have no need or desire to sell any of their mainline fleet).
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: IFPete on June 11, 2018, 11:23:47 AM
There are not many big enough drive through fast ferries out there with the reliability of the Austal Series.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Steven on June 12, 2018, 04:01:34 PM
If Swift continues to attract high volumes as it consistantly has since the demise of the Dun Laoire - Holyhead service i see irish ferries placing an order for a purpose built Austal 112 or leasing or purchasing Leonardo Christina from Fred Olsen Group.
There's hundreds of fast ferries out there - why would IF want to pay over the odds for Leonora Christina? (Fred. Olsen have no need or desire to sell any of their mainline fleet).

Must say I agree here.  Fred Olsen have no desire to let her go so will want a high price, and ICG aren’t known for paying over the odds for anything.  I’d question whether it would be worth the investment in any case - it’s not like passengers will pay significantly more for the saved crossing time to justify the investment.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: IFPete on June 12, 2018, 10:10:46 PM
Time will tell, If they replace the aft ramp during and improve some of the crew working areas during the winter , Dublin Swift will improve her punctiality
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Steven on June 14, 2018, 08:21:41 PM
Time will tell, If they replace the aft ramp during and improve some of the crew working areas during the winter , Dublin Swift will improve her punctiality
If they were going to replace the aft ramp they'd have done it during her "conversion" when she was already at the yard surely!  Anyone could see the issue it was going to pose.  From what I can see they only did what was necessary and will move her on when the time is right.  Hence the rather generic and easy to rebrand interior.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: IFPete on June 14, 2018, 08:27:49 PM
I agree she is a stopgap to something else.

Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Steven on June 14, 2018, 08:34:03 PM
I agree she is a stopgap to something else.
For me everything points to them doing the same as Stena.  At present the swift is doing the same thing as the HSS in providing additional passenger capacity to the second vessel (EPSILON rather than Nordica in this case).  Once FSG777 arrives they wont need that capacity any more and certainly wont need the vehicle capacity.  That and the swift service being absent in the second order press release when talking about what vessel would be doing what.  They'll make a decent profit on her I imagine.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on March 23, 2019, 11:48:48 AM
I took my first trip on the Dublin Swift last week. When I got to the port the WB which was due to depart at 1600 was berthed at cruise 34. Epsilon berthed at 51A with SFX berthed at 51.
Boarding to the Swift was by foot walking from the terminal to the bow ramp. I booked club class which overlooked the bow and had great views. Seating was very comfortable with fold down tables and usb points, there are seats with tables on the front row and at the sides. Departure was bang on time and as we were reversing off the berth I could see the WB reversing down the river waiting to take our place on berth 49 prior to her 1600 departure. Weather en route was fair a bit misty but calm however the vessel seemed to pitch quite a bit at top speed and it was quite difficult to walk around. The two deck areas are very small with the port side set aside for smokers.
We arrived slightly ahead of schedule and it was interesting to watch the stern ramp dock at the berth. It unfolds and almost as soon as it touched the berth the cars were rolling off.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on April 24, 2019, 02:10:58 PM
Dublin Swift will be dry docking from the 5th May until (estimated) the 24th May for planned works to be carried out.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on May 06, 2019, 11:14:36 AM
Dublin Swift has arrived at Cammell Laird.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: IFPete on May 06, 2019, 01:44:16 PM
New waterjets are being installed.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: RorieLen on May 06, 2019, 02:10:21 PM
New waterjets are being installed.

I believe it is Azipod thrusters and not waterjets
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Cladyman on May 06, 2019, 02:18:46 PM
Why o why could this not have been done during winter.   

Seems like bad planning from the outside
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Ulysses17 on May 06, 2019, 04:28:38 PM
Why o why could this not have been done during winter.   

Seems like bad planning from the outside

the parts and software required had to be specially manufactured - they weren't available until now
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: IFPete on May 07, 2019, 06:41:26 PM
They have already invested Euro 7 million in her, i wonder does this include the cost of buying the new thrusters.  She needs to hang around for a while to recover that investment.

Will the new thrusters allow her to use Terminal 2 in Holyhead as well as to dock on days when she currently cannot dock in Holyhead.

According to Irish Ferries results they loose passenger and car traffic when she is not in service.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: Steven on May 17, 2019, 01:42:37 AM
They have already invested Euro 7 million in her, i wonder does this include the cost of buying the new thrusters.  She needs to hang around for a while to recover that investment.

Will the new thrusters allow her to use Terminal 2 in Holyhead as well as to dock on days when she currently cannot dock in Holyhead.

According to Irish Ferries results they loose passenger and car traffic when she is not in service.

Another way to recoup the investment would of course be to sell her on at a profit.  She was bought "cheap" remember and if anything the money that they have invested is just reinvestment of the profit made by switching her with her predecessor!  With improved manoeuvrability (and hopefully reliability) and increased vehicle capacity she is potentially worth more now than ever!
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: marsav68 on May 24, 2019, 08:49:43 AM
Swift back in service this morning.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on June 17, 2019, 11:04:37 PM
Swift was cancelled this afternoon "weather"  however she is now off Howth Head (at 11.00 pm) conducting Sea Trials according to her AIS.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: ferryfan on June 21, 2019, 12:00:22 PM
Sailings cancelled again today no weather excuse gone technical.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: marsav68 on August 13, 2019, 08:03:38 AM
Morning Swift sailing cancelled today. And everything running behind schedule yesterday.

"Irish Ferries regrets to advise that due to operational reasons, the 07:30hrs Swift Fast Craft sailing is now CANCELLED. Customers can be accommodated on the 0805hrs Ulysses Cruise Ferry from Dublin."
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: IFPete on August 13, 2019, 10:32:44 AM
The parts must have arrived for the unserviceable engine.
Title: Re: HSC Dublin Swift
Post by: marsav68 on August 13, 2019, 03:04:08 PM
The parts must have arrived for the unserviceable engine.

Think it is still having an issue, still only hitting 26Kn on this afternoon sailing. Possible they decided to just protect her this morning and take everyone on the Ulysses