Irish Ferries Enthusiasts | Forum

Your guide to Ireland's ferry services

News:New Forums - if you experience any problems, please e-mail [email protected]

Brittany Ferries fleet movements

(Read 93169 times)

Steven

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 250
Honfleur appears to be suffering the same delays that WB Yeats suffered.
especially the new fuel system.

Her fuel system is totally different!
Steve in Belfast (suburbia)

NI Ferry Site

Flickr: www.flickr.com/tarbyonline

Chef

  • Member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 0
Whereas the ship is new,  the fuel system itself is not and has been around for some time . What IFPete maybe referring to is that it is the first time that FSG have installed such a system .

Steven

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 250
Whereas the ship is new,  the fuel system itself is not and has been around for some time . What IFPete maybe referring to is that it is the first time that FSG have installed such a system .

How does that make it the same problem as W.B. YEATS which has a totally different fuel system though? 

The main issue with HONFLEUR appears to be down to the fact that suppliers weren't getting paid and that workers have left.  TT Tasmania now expect late delivery and are talking to other yards according to reports from Australia.  Brittany Ferries are so confident about the delivery of HONFLEUR they have chartered in another vessel (see below)!
Last Edit: June 23, 2019, 10:29:23 PM by Steven
Steve in Belfast (suburbia)

NI Ferry Site

Flickr: www.flickr.com/tarbyonline

Steven

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 250
Brittany Ferries announced a one charter of a vissenti ship from Stena ro/ro the vessel is believed to be the AF Michela the former Stena Egeria. The charter is from November 2019 to November 2020 and is to provide cover for Pont Aven which will be out of service for 10 weeks due to an engine replacement  and "in case FSG do not deliver the Honfleur on time.
FSG won't be delivering Honfleur on time as that time has come and gone already!  So far as I am aware they have not yet announced a revised delivery date as of yet.  The Brittany Ferries press release doesn't exactly inspire confidence mind.  All of this means Cork - Spain has got at least 6 months extension from the initial 2-year trial. 

https://brittanyferriesnewsroom.com/new-ship-charter-will-secure-2020-season-schedules-says-brittany-ferries/

Connemara will be replaced by AF Michela and move to the French flag to provide additional redundancy on the core UK to France and Spain routes. 

https://www.niferry.co.uk/brittany-ferries-to-replace-cork-to-spain-ferry/

AF MICHELA is of course the much troubled former HOA SEN which was discussed on this very forum a few years back after she was acquired by Stena

https://www.irish-ferries-enthusiasts.com/forum/the-news-board/stena-line-fleet-movements/1322/

Thankfully the Stena RoRo refit (more of a rebuild) appears to have been thorough with no reoccurrence of the previous structural problems.  Although she has a passenger certificate for 1000 from memory she only has about 400 berths.
Last Edit: June 23, 2019, 10:34:08 PM by Steven
Steve in Belfast (suburbia)

NI Ferry Site

Flickr: www.flickr.com/tarbyonline

Chef

  • Member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 0
Whereas the ship is new,  the fuel system itself is not and has been around for some time . What IFPete maybe referring to is that it is the first time that FSG have installed such a system .
Whereas the ship is new,  the fuel system itself is not and has been around for some time . What IFPete maybe referring to is that it is the first time that FSG have installed such a system .

How does that make it the same problem as W.B. YEATS which has a totally different fuel system though? 

The main issue with HONFLEUR appears to be down to the fact that suppliers weren't getting paid and that workers have left.  TT Tasmania now expect late delivery and are talking to other yards according to reports from Australia.  Brittany Ferries are so confident about the delivery of HONFLEUR they have chartered in another vessel (see below)!
A delay none the less just like Yeats regardless of the reasons .

Steven

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 250
Whereas the ship is new,  the fuel system itself is not and has been around for some time . What IFPete maybe referring to is that it is the first time that FSG have installed such a system .
Whereas the ship is new,  the fuel system itself is not and has been around for some time . What IFPete maybe referring to is that it is the first time that FSG have installed such a system .

How does that make it the same problem as W.B. YEATS which has a totally different fuel system though? 

The main issue with HONFLEUR appears to be down to the fact that suppliers weren't getting paid and that workers have left.  TT Tasmania now expect late delivery and are talking to other yards according to reports from Australia.  Brittany Ferries are so confident about the delivery of HONFLEUR they have chartered in another vessel (see below)!
A delay none the less just like Yeats regardless of the reasons .
Whatever

Moving on, it appears AF MICHELA's current passenger certificate is only for 350 (according to RINA) despite the claim of 1000 on the Adria Ferries site.

https://www.adriaferries.com/en/navi-5/af-michela-en-en.html

With her 70 x 4 berth cabins and 'dormitories' she doesn't sound too luxurious!  Who knows what BF and RoRo have planned mind but with facilities that total a restaurant, a couple of bars, and a shop there doesn't seem much to do on a 28 hour voyage (except eat and drink)!
Steve in Belfast (suburbia)

NI Ferry Site

Flickr: www.flickr.com/tarbyonline

IFPete

  • Member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 0
FSG have never built a ship to meet the safety requirements of LNG before,

The ship looks unoccupied with work progressing on the two Siem ships.

I guess TT line are panicing , Irish Ferries are saying nothing.

ccs

  • Member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 77
With her 70 x 4 berth cabins and 'dormitories' she doesn't sound too luxurious!  Who knows what BF and RoRo have planned mind but with facilities that total a restaurant, a couple of bars, and a shop there doesn't seem much to do on a 28 hour voyage (except eat and drink)!

Sleep?  ;D

hhvferry

  • Member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 2
I guess TT line are panicing , Irish Ferries are saying nothing.
I doubt anyone is panicking. Spirit of Tasmania can keep their existing pretty modern ships running as long as they need to.

IFPete

  • Member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 0
My guess they will wait for the ferries to come in 2022 or beyond.


IFPete

  • Member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 0
Honfleur now delayed until spring 2020 and next three orders will not start without local goverment funding.

ccs

  • Member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 77
"Brittany Ferries has today confirmed names for its next ships. Kerry will be the name for the one-year charter vessel arriving in November 2019. As previously announced, this ship will cover the Cork to Santander route from November 2019 to November 2020".

https://brittanyferriesnewsroom.com/brittany-ferries-names-new-ships-and-promises-significant-co2-savings-from-fleet-renewal-plans/

Steven

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 250
FSG have never built a ship to meet the safety requirements of LNG before,

The ship looks unoccupied with work progressing on the two Siem ships.

I guess TT line are panicing , Irish Ferries are saying nothing.
This isn't the first ship they've built fuelled by LNG!

TT Line Pty are already known to be speaking to other yards.  I doubt Irish Ferries would have much chance of getting a vessel to that specification at that price elsewhere.  Timeline for delivery has already slipped to "late 2020"
Last Edit: July 08, 2019, 10:59:08 PM by Steven
Steve in Belfast (suburbia)

NI Ferry Site

Flickr: www.flickr.com/tarbyonline

Steven

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 250
Honfleur now delayed until spring 2020 and next three orders will not start without local goverment funding.
Problem is, the local government say they can't justify putting more money into the yard having already put in some 400m in recent years with the yard now making more losses than ever (111m last year alone!).  I guess they also have to justify where they are spending peoples taxes (there's also state aid rules as well to stay on the right side of), especially when a lot of the work isn't even taking place in Germany.  At least some of the more recent builds have been financed by loans from Siem rather than from the local government.  Siem seem to be basically righting off their investment in the yard now though.  According to Siem's annual report and accounts the investment by the vehicle led by Lars Windhorst was 33m for 76% of the company (slightly less money for 1% more of the company than reported elsewhere).  The next few months look like they will be crucial for the yard.

Work on HONFLEUR has been progressing according to a friend who was at the yard a few days ago.  Just because you can't see anyone doesn't mean something isn't being done!
Steve in Belfast (suburbia)

NI Ferry Site

Flickr: www.flickr.com/tarbyonline

ccs

  • Member
  • *
  • *
  • Posts: 77
Few pics of Connemara arriving in Cork harbour earlier this evening