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Title: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on February 02, 2009, 08:13:57 PM
The new Armorique has completed berthing trials at Plymouth and is on its way to Breast for trials via Roscoff.
The Normandie and the Bretagne are both at Gdansk , Poland for refit , the Bretagne of course was the one time Cork - Roscoff ship.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on February 09, 2009, 03:23:33 PM
The Armorique is due to enter service tomorow (Feb 10th) from Roscoff at 1500 , and from Plymouth at 2200.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on February 10, 2009, 08:02:33 PM
An impressive vessel , although the design is strangely fimilar , its not quite the Armorique as she was known in Cork :o
Here she is leaving the builders yards en route to the U.K.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on February 11, 2009, 10:50:21 AM
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An impressive vessel , although the design is strangely fimilar , its not quite the Armorique as she was known in Cork :o
Here she is leaving the builders yards en route to the U.K.

I don't think anything could come close to the graceful lines of the orgional Armourique. The new vessel has a very odd stern that I amn't so sure I like...
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on February 11, 2009, 03:50:19 PM
This design would'nt be my favorite either , however it bears nore than a passing resembelance to the Isle of Innismore.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on February 11, 2009, 06:52:22 PM
By strange coincidence this was recently sold on E-Bay.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on February 25, 2009, 12:18:29 AM
The Bretagne undergoing refit at Gdansk
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on February 25, 2009, 10:53:02 PM
Bring back the Zig-zag stripes!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on February 25, 2009, 11:24:14 PM
I believe she's getting quite a going over during this refit , including a FULL internal refit , I think they call it a midlife extension upgrade or something similar.
Work is being done at Remontowa yards in Gdansk , Poland.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on March 01, 2009, 08:41:07 PM
The Cork - Roscoff service will resume on 3rd april and run every saturday until 31st october 2009, the Pont Aven will do the honours again this year.
Below the Pont Aven arriving in Ringaskiddy for the very first time in 2004.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on March 01, 2009, 08:42:36 PM
And manouvering into the berth for the first time.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on March 01, 2009, 08:44:18 PM
And I had to throw this one in , the brand new Pont Aven passing the Val De Loire in Plymouth.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on March 03, 2009, 07:49:52 PM
Brittany Ferries has expressed an interest in aquireing Seafrance , LD lines is also said to be interested although BF are said to be the prefered buyer , BF would also gain a substantial foothold on the Dover - Calias route .
Below the Seafrance Moliere aquired last year , formerly Superfast X
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on March 18, 2009, 03:05:06 PM
Brittany Ferries are now the sole interesetd party in the takeover bid for SeaFrance , the BF proposals include re-activating the recently decommissioned SeaFrance Cezanne and returning the Dover - Calis service to a four ship operation and a possibility of introduceing new tonnage to the route possibly as early as next year.
Brittany Ferries proposes to take a 75% stake in Seafrance while state owned SNCF would retain a 25% shareholding , however this is conditional on SNCF injecting a 10 million Euro investment in Seafrance.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on March 21, 2009, 03:40:15 PM
The Pont Aven has had its operating schedule altered for the 2009 season and will now operate Cork - Roscoff - Porthsmouth - Santander , and Plymouth will no longer be served.
Brittany Ferries says the move will allow them to offer the fastest travel time between the UK and Spain.
Bolow the Pont Aven arrives in Porthsmouth from www.shipspotting.com
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on September 21, 2009, 07:34:16 PM
In a surprise move Brittany Ferries will take the Armorique out of service on november 7th for lay up after only 9 months in service , it will be replaced on the Plymouth - Roscoff service by the Bretagne which will also operate Plymouth - Santander once a week with the Cotentin operating the route twice a week.
The Pont Aven will replace the Bretagne on the Portsmouth - St Malo service.
I wonder which ship will be operating into Cork next year?
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on September 25, 2009, 08:20:04 PM
While not offically confirmed by Brittany Ferries it is believed that this season will be the last time the Pont Aven will operate into Cork.
It is expected that the Bretagne will operate the Cork - Roscoff service in 2010 , again this came from a VERY reliable source but has yet to be confirmed by Brittany Ferries.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on September 25, 2009, 08:40:08 PM
Cork-Roscoff has BF's highest load factor per sailing, so unless the Bretagne makes more than one trip a week, I can't see it happening...
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on September 26, 2009, 02:08:36 AM
This used to be true , however figures for this year on the Cork - Roscoff show a decrease of approx 20% in traffic over last year , this is inspite of a 4% increase in Ireland - France traffic , the person I spoke to also mentioned that Irish Ferries Rosslare - France traffic was also down slightly and puts the increase down to competition from LD Lines and Celtic Ferries.
It seems that Brittany Ferries sees this trend continuing at least in the short term.
The fact that Brittany Ferries are increasing Freight capacity and decreasing passenger capacity on its UK - Spain service is also a reflection on current traffic levels on that route.
The Armorique being laid up so far is still a complete mystery.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: mysurvey on September 26, 2009, 03:45:17 PM
An additional mid-week service would be a great addition and help reverse the trend of decreasing car /passanger traffic. For us this year for example 6 nights in France was too short and 13 days too long, we wanted 9 / 10 days. We chose Fly / Drive to get to La Rochelle.

There must be similar stories from visitors from mainland Europe.

Better packaging/networking of accomodation & ferry crossings would also assist in regaining ground lost to the airlines.

Maybe in the future Fastnet Lines might expand with a suitable ship to provide additional sailings to France and additional night crossings to Swansea from Cork.


With Irish Ferries, LD and Celtic ferries there is NO shortage of capacity to the East / Southeast of the country.



Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on September 26, 2009, 06:36:42 PM
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Maybe in the future Fastnet Lines might expand with a suitable ship to provide additional sailings to France and additional night crossings to Swansea from Cork.

I have heard it mentioned, but Fastnet Lines priority is Swansea Cork, any expansion is something like 5 years down the line according to the presentations that were run...
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: mysurvey on September 26, 2009, 10:11:54 PM
Eckero Line may very well be open to the sale
of M/S Norlandia!!!  (strangley familiar)

There is significant over capacity on the Helsinki to Tallin run and overnight cabins are not required for the current schedule.

The Cork Roscoff route would benefit so much from the provision of an additional mid-week sailing.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on September 27, 2009, 04:16:17 PM
The future of the Cork - Roscoff service lies very much with Brittany Ferries at the moment , so its a case of wait to see what they will do as they have said nothing yet.
While Fastnet Line may expand in the future (something I myself would like to see) for the moment getting the Cork - Swansea service bedded down is the top priority and all resources and efforts are being applied there , while potential future expansion may be as much as 5 years away , if the Cork - Swansea exceeds expectations (which it may well do) it may well come sooner , but I myself would'nt see it happening until 2012 at the earliest (but I would'nt mind being proven wrong on that).
Nothing in terms of expansion has been discussed at an offical level at Fastnet Line so far , but who knows what the future holds , Fastnet Line is commited to Cork and its future prosperity so as has been demonstrated so far , anything is possible.
I myself also feel that it is the 1 sailing per week timetable that is dragging down the passenger numbers on the Cork - Roscoff in that the timetable offers no flexability and unless you can structure your travel arrangements into one week modules based on Saturday sailings then the service is of no use to you.
The ideal timetable would have 3 sailings per week , an example would be depatrures from Cork on monday , wednesday and saturday in the peak and wednesday and saturday off peak using smaller well fitted out ships (Bretagne size) , this would offer enough flexability to encourage growth on the route.
As I have said the final decision on this lies with Brittany Ferries , and it must be kept in mind that Brittany Ferries has always been good to Cork so lets wait to see what they come up with , and while I am saddened to loose the Pont Aven from Cork at least the service is not being cancelled which they could just as easily have done.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on November 24, 2009, 02:38:17 AM
The Pont L'Abbe has been chartered to Mediteranian operator Moby on a 3 year lease , Moby has the option to buy the Pont L'Abbe as part of the contract terms , it is expected to enter service in the Mediteranian in December.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on January 05, 2010, 03:06:42 PM
It seems that the Cork - Roscoff service will be operated by Pont Aven in 2010 after all.
The former Superfast V is to be named Cap Finistere and is expected in service in march to release the Cotentin from the Santander service.
Cotentin will then move to the Poole - Cherbourg service as a replacement for the Barfleur which will be withdrawn pending disposal in Febuary , Armorique will operate the service until Cotentin arrives.
Brittany Ferries are also said to be in discussions with Aker shipyards about the building of a new ship for the Portsmouth - Cean service , the project is currently dubbed Mont St Michel 2
Below , Rendering of the Cap Finistere from www.passengerships.fr
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on March 02, 2010, 01:09:14 AM
From www.shipspotting.com , the Cap Finistere getting the Brittany Ferries treatment at Dunkerque.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on March 04, 2010, 01:06:39 AM
Barfleur is officially for sale also (it was initially though she would be chartered)...
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on March 24, 2010, 04:45:24 PM
Cap Finistere has finished being Brittany Ferriesised and will enter service shortly.
Pic below is Cap Finistere entering Cherbourg from www.shipspotting.com
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on March 24, 2010, 04:54:59 PM
She looks very well....
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on April 25, 2010, 09:51:46 PM
Normandie Express is at Burgess Marine at Portsmouth to have a crankshaft replaced , it is expected back is service on May 9th.
Picture below from www.shipspotting.com
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on June 01, 2010, 04:24:27 PM
Further to above it turns out that Normandie Express in fact needed an entire engine replaced.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on September 04, 2010, 10:34:08 PM
Cotentin has re-entered service following its refit at Breast , it carries a slightly revised livery.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on December 06, 2010, 02:14:18 PM
Due to severe weather at Cherbourg , Cotentin switched route to Poole - Cean , she has also berthed for the first time at Ouistreham.
Below from www.shipspotting.com Cotentin
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on December 27, 2010, 01:21:43 AM
The Barfleur is expected to return to service with Brittany Ferries at the end of febuary when it takes up the Poole - Cherbourg service , it is thought this move is to allow Cotentin to focus on the UK - Spain routes.

Below from www.shipspotting.com , the Barfleur
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on April 18, 2011, 08:41:07 AM
As noted elsewhere Brittany Ferries has placed an order for a new generation Eco-Ferry.
Barfluer has again been offered for sale , however the ship remains in service at least in the short term.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: JoyLuther on November 12, 2011, 07:58:33 AM
The one from the golden memories..... "Armorique"
1976-1994
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on September 14, 2012, 07:34:48 PM
The Pont Aven is sailing from Brest tonight due to industrial action by BF staff in Roscoff.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on September 21, 2012, 06:01:40 PM
Strike has forced Brittany Ferries have suspended all sailings until further notice - statement here (http://www.brittany-ferries.co.uk/routes/sailing-updates).

The berth at Roscoff is occupied by the Armorique, so Oscar Wilde diverted to Cherbourg too...
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: loch garman on September 21, 2012, 08:08:02 PM
nasty isn't it. Wouldn't like to be on the oscar.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on September 22, 2012, 10:26:33 AM
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nasty isn't it. Wouldn't like to be on the oscar.

Happens when you travel (!), but BF are usually slow to cancel the Irish sailing due to the lack of alternatives.

Sounds like Irish Ferries made the decision before Oscar left Rosslare (not en route). She was late docking last week as the Armorique was on the berth.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on September 24, 2012, 11:54:14 PM
http://www.brittany-ferries.co.uk/article/7630/press-release-24-09-2012


A number of meetings involving the management and French crew unions have taken place throughout the weekend in Roscoff where Brittany Ferries head office is located. These talks have been constructive, with proposals being put forward by both sides. As yet, no agreement has been reached which will enable the company to resume services which therefore remain suspended, except the Poole-Cherbourg passenger service, which is operated on Brittany Ferries' behalf by Condor Ferries.

Passengers are being asked not to attempt to contact the company by telephone but to visit the website www.brittany-ferries.co.uk/routes/sailing-updates for the latest information.

Because of this indefinite stoppage Brittany Ferries is recommending customers to travel to Dover where they currently have special arrangements in place with P&O Ferries and MyFerryLink to accept Brittany Ferries tickets. A full refund will, of course, be given for the unused Brittany Ferries crossings. Brittany Ferries staff are at Dover and Calais to assist passengers.

Brittany Ferries very much regrets the effect that the disruption is having on its
customers and would like to reassure everyone that the management is working hard to reach a swift end to the dispute.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on October 01, 2012, 01:11:00 PM
Dispute resolved

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Brittany Ferries services resumed

Update - Monday 1st October

We are pleased to announce that industrial action is over and normal services between Ireland and France have resumed.

From http://www.brittanyferries.ie/ferry-routes/sailing-updates
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on January 05, 2013, 10:55:37 AM
In a surprise move Cotentin has been advertised for sale , http://www.mondialbroker.com/Finland/Ro-ro%20passenger%20ship/346630?K=SRC
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on January 05, 2013, 12:38:16 PM
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In a surprise move Cotentin has been advertised for sale , http://www.mondialbroker.com/Finland/Ro-ro%20passenger%20ship/346630?K=SRC

That's a bit unexpected....though the Bretagne or Normandie would be gone first, her freight sailings were doing well from what I understand.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on January 05, 2013, 02:59:15 PM
The Contentin was going into lay up in March 2013 anyway, I suppose if they are able to get a good price, better to have the money. Also possible to convert to full ropax like the Armorique (a near sister) so it is a vessel that should sell quickly.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: emship on January 05, 2013, 04:42:55 PM
it is not a new add it have being there since november and contenti have being circulated on many sites for sale

emship
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on April 05, 2013, 07:26:07 AM
Not previously mentioned is that Pont Aven recommenced the Cork - Roscoff service on March 23rd with advance bookings up 12% on 2012 and the possibility of a sell out season looking likely (might be time they looked again at adding another departure during the week).
Below from www.shipspotting.com a rare evening view of Pont Aven at Ringaskiddy in 2004.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: tonycan on April 05, 2013, 05:48:49 PM
An additional run with a Ro-Pax perhaps?
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on April 05, 2013, 06:46:10 PM
Well ideally Armorique could squeeze in a mid-week run from Roscoff to Cork , failing that a mid-week run to St Malo with Bretagne could be popular.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on January 14, 2014, 07:11:38 PM
Brittany Ferries have ordered a new Pegasis class ferry and are going to convert the Pont Aven, Mont St Michele and Armorique to LNG !!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/10571371/Brittany-Ferries-to-run-gas-powered-vessel.html

http://www.passengerships.fr/actualiteacutes.html

http://www.ouest-france.fr/saint-nazaire-la-brittany-ferries-confirme-stx-sa-commande-dun-ferry-nouvelle-generation-1850600

http://www.letelegramme.fr/ig/generales/regions/bretagne/brittany-ferries-un-nouveau-navire-et-l-ensemble-de-la-flotte-au-gaz-naturel-liquide-14-01-2014-2367878.php


Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on January 15, 2014, 04:09:38 AM
A most impressive vessel , great to finally see it ordered , of course this means that Cork will be saying goodbye to the Pont Aven at the end of 2016 , but what a replacement we are getting instead , as things stand she will be the worlds biggest LNG powered car ferry.
This also explains the new double deck berth to be built at at Ringaskiddy.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on January 16, 2014, 05:05:25 AM
It also seems the Bretagne will be leaving the Brittany Ferries fleet in 2017.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: mrwtho07 on January 16, 2014, 09:46:11 AM
I think the Pont Aven is going to St Malo. This is great news for Brittany Ferries, but obviously this is response to the IMO Regulations.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on January 16, 2014, 05:48:59 PM
Further good news is that it seems despite its size this new ship will have the lowest operating costs of any ferry operating into Ireland , which I suspect will do wonders for Brittany Ferries pricing for passengers and freight.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on January 16, 2014, 10:31:28 PM
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Further good news is that it seems despite its size this new ship will have the lowest operating costs of any ferry operating into Ireland , which I suspect will do wonders for Brittany Ferries pricing for passengers and freight.


While it may have the lowest operating costs of any vessel in Northern Europe it still has to pay back the £225 Million Sterling  / €270 Million Euro / $368 Million Dollars depending on your currency that is a big sum of money in anyone's book regardless of grant funding, loan structuring etc, plus the cost of re engineering the other three ferries is not going to be cheap. I would not expect a price war that soon.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on January 17, 2014, 01:24:45 AM
True she is expensive , but I imagine Brittany Ferries will depriciate her over 20 years like their other ships , the re-engineering of their other ships will be expensive , but again there will be fuel cost savings from it.
Where the new ship needs to be watched is her capacity , she has a lot of lanemeters for a ship her size , in terms of capacity she has 7 times more vehicle space than Viking Grace , and over twice that of Oscar Wilde.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on January 30, 2014, 02:07:29 AM
I note from the latest images of the new Pegasis that there have been a number of changes made to the design particularly towards the stern compared with images first released 2 years ago.
Below recent image from Brittany Ferries
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on February 07, 2014, 10:59:38 PM
Big news from BF today as they have announced the charter of the Norman Voyager from Stena Ro Ro for a new BF Economy service. The Norman Voyagers current charter to LD/DFDS ends in March.

http://www.brittany-ferries.co.uk/press-office/blog/41230/07-02-2014---Brittany-Ferries-starts-new-no-frills-service-Brittany-Ferries-economie-from-Portsmouth-to-Le-Havre-and-Santander?page=1

http://www.brittany-ferries.co.uk/economie

We are pleased to announce a new no-frills service called Brittany Ferries économie which will operate from Portsmouth to both Santander and Le Havre. The service is ideal for those of you who wish to travel to France or Spain at a very reasonable fare without either the cruise-style experience we provide on our other ships or the speed afforded by Normandie Express.

Convenient sailing schedule

There will be a weekend service between Portsmouth and Santander and five return crossings between Portsmouth and Le Havre, one of which will be freight-only. The no-frills, great-value feature will appeal to those on a tight budget.

On board service and facilities

On board, our customers can expect good quality French catering in the small self-service restaurant, but with a limited choice. There is a small bar, movie lounge and lounge area. As with all our ships the service will be operated by Brittany Ferries' bilingual French crew and officers.

The cabins will all have en-suite facilities, but without carpets, and there will be a lounge where seats can be reserved on overnight crossings. Pet owners will welcome the 12 pet-friendly cabins to Spain. There will be two specially equipped cabins for disabled passengers.

Cycles and motorcycles are welcome on both routes but foot passengers will only be accepted on the route to and from Le Havre.

Launching soon

We plan to open for sale in the next few weeks. The first sailing will be on Tuesday 25th March from Portsmouth to Le Havre.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Oscar Wilde on February 08, 2014, 12:59:56 AM
I don't know about any of you on here but I am starting to get a bit fed up of these style ships. Who had them now? - Irish Ferries and Celtic l ferries and stena and LD and carnote tourist and dfds and norfolkline and other companies and now Brittany ferries! Who will get one of these style ships next? Probably p&o ferries or someone. Plus I see that Brittany ferries are calling this an ecenomy service. They must be copying Irish ferries idea!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on February 08, 2014, 10:01:32 AM
I don't know about any of you on here but I am starting to get a bit fed up of these style ships. Who had them now? - Irish Ferries and Celtic l ferries and stena and LD and carnote tourist and dfds and norfolkline and other companies and now Brittany ferries! Who will get one of these style ships next? Probably p&o ferries or someone. Plus I see that Brittany ferries are calling this an ecenomy service. They must be copying Irish ferries idea!

I am fairly sure the ship yard (and the likes of Stena, LD, and ICG) would disagree with you strongly there, it's a class of ship that has proven very versatile at a time the market is seriously short tonnage.

Economy service is a massive change of direction for Brittany Ferries, they always prided them selves on service, hopefully it's not the direction they plan to take with the fleet in the future.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: mrwtho07 on February 08, 2014, 03:04:38 PM
Like the new look for the forum :). This is a very interesting development and I can't wait to hear more.
The rumours on the Dover Forum were that the Norman Voyager is to be renamed Etretat and the implications of this on DFDS will be interesting to see.

As for the type of vessel, well Viscentini have made a name for themselves with these Ro-Pax vessels, as they are best ships to serve the ferry industry at the moment, which is why they are so successful. 
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on February 09, 2014, 08:57:44 PM
I don't know about any of you on here but I am starting to get a bit fed up of these style ships. Who had them now? - Irish Ferries and Celtic l ferries and stena and LD and carnote tourist and dfds and norfolkline and other companies and now Brittany ferries! Who will get one of these style ships next? Probably p&o ferries or someone. Plus I see that Brittany ferries are calling this an ecenomy service. They must be copying Irish ferries idea!

I wouldn't doubt seeing more of them to be honest as they appear to be an operators dream.  They have very low running costs, high freight capacity, adequate passenger accommodation (especially on the Stena Lagan/Mersey where they are almost like mini-Superfasts), high reliability, etc.  I believe there is also scope for them to be expanded as well and they seem very flexible - for example Stena operate Flavia on the Travemunde-Ventspils (a 22 hour crossing) whereas IF can operate Cartour Epsilon between Dublin and Holyhead (I assume economically).  If there ever is an Ireland to Spain service chances are it will be one of these (or similar type) operating it.  The days of the cruise ferry are over - with escalating fuel costs, budget airlines and the abolition of duty free, onboard services simply don't pay their way like they used to (Just look at what happened to Scandinavian Seaways who as DFDS can't get enough of the ropax).  The industry has changed unrecognisably since the first ro-ro's which only carried cars and mostly railway passengers, nowadays ro-ro services are freight services primarily (with a few exceptions) which carry passengers as a bonus.

A further evolution was planned of the NAOS/Visentini design but AFAIK this has been shelved due to the financial crisis.  Personally I prefer the Stena Lagan/Mersey to the Stena Superfast which is very high praise indeed (though this is mostly due to the fact there are less people on board!).  In the configuration as they left the Donada yard they are very utilitarian regarding passenger accommodation but with a bit of investment can be quite comfortable indeed.

RE: BF going downmarket, I see this as BF Truckline under another name tbh.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Matt73 on February 09, 2014, 10:21:54 PM
I agree with Steven that the new BF service is essentially Truckline in all but name; I nearly fell off my chair when I read the tweet about the new service. Good for them and they are clearly determined to ensure that the Western Channel is their domain!

With the advent of the new LNG ship and the conversion to LNG of Mont St Michelle, Pont Aven and Amorique, what will become of the Normandie?  It seems that Bretagne will be phased out when the newbuild arrives.

Matt
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on February 10, 2014, 12:34:50 AM
Unless there is a change in market conditions Bretagne is probably headed for a beach somewhere TBH.  Hard to see where she could go. Personally I hope DFDS stay and fight rather than doing a P&O and pulling out.  DFDS must be taking business off BF for them to go to the lengths to charter another ship and start a no frills operation to match them (rather than lower their fares in the first place - the current BF lowest fare to Caen is twice that of DFDS's to Le Havre!)
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Matt73 on February 12, 2014, 10:16:45 PM
Thanks for that Steven.  Re the Caen route, how is business going there for Brittany Ferries there these days?  I recall reading last year that loadings were down, when comparied to the Spanish routes.  Caen really transformerd their fortunes back in the mid-80s and I have always found it ironic that the terminal at Ouistreham was first offered to Townsend Thoresen, who arrogantly turned it down because it took an hour longer to get from Portsmouth; those who took that decision must have rued the day given what has happened since.

Matt
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on February 14, 2014, 08:13:52 PM
The Norman Voyager is to be renamed Etretat when it joins the Brittany Ferries Economie fleet.

Image and details of the service now on the website.

http://www.brittany-ferries.co.uk/economie


Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on February 18, 2014, 01:08:50 AM
The following has been compiled from a number of sources (including discussion forums) and so shouldn't be taken as "gospel"

Regarding the Brittany Ferries PEGASIS order, it appears that the finance may not be in place for work to begin before 2015.  More interestingly, there is also some talk that not only will the new ship not be owned by Brittany Ferries (surprise, surprise) but by Sica de St Pol de Leon one of the vegetable producing cooperatives which helped found Brittany Ferries, but it will also be partially funded by the French state (an initial figure of EUR 30M is floating about plus EU aid to STX to develop the technology for the vessel - neither of these amounts are capped it would seem) who will also be loaning cash (in the form of repayable advances) to build the ship.  Additionally it would also appear that the investment in converting some of the rest of the BF fleet is not actually being paid for by BF, but at least partially by the EU who are also funding the research into providing refueling restructure at Roscoff and Santander.  Most interestingly to me is that the technology to build the ship does not appear to currently exist and that many technical challenges still need to be overcome.  What is clear though is that when the process is finished STX France (ironically a Korean company) will be a technological leader in LNG propulsion and will have gained that knowledge at least partially through EU subsidy and will it seems be free to charge others for the use of that technology.

Some sources
http://www.greenport.com/news101/marine-civils/lng/eu-grant-for-analysing-lng-potential
http://www.meretmarine.com/fr/content/gros-plan-sur-le-futur-navire-de-brittany-ferries
Ferries of Northern Europe Yahoo group
BFEnthusiasts Forum.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on February 18, 2014, 01:43:47 AM
Interesting , as usual the French are going to great lengths to get around EU state aid rules. Yet if an Irish or British company did similar there would be uproar in France with ports blockaded.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on February 18, 2014, 02:22:48 AM
Interesting , as usual the French are going to great lengths to get around EU state aid rules. Yet if an Irish or British company did similar there would be uproar in France with ports blockaded.

Exactly what I was thinking - didn't see the EU searching for ways to fund our shipyards through new technology investment!  Of course, not much of the above is official but there is a familiar "smell" to it all.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on February 18, 2014, 02:52:48 AM
Well I have no objection to the EU supporting European shipbuilding through new technology support , so long as its available to ALL European yards and not just French ones.
I am sure Stena Line (or P&O) would be thrilled to receive EU money to build an LNG powered prototype for its Northern Corridor services at H&W  ;D
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on February 18, 2014, 02:47:50 PM
Well I have no objection to the EU supporting European shipbuilding through new technology support , so long as its available to ALL European yards and not just French ones.
I am sure Stena Line (or P&O) would be thrilled to receive EU money to build an LNG powered prototype for its Northern Corridor services at H&W  ;D
Stena seem to prefer going the methanol route anyway.  I suppose when your network is so spread out the infrastructure investment is disproportionate compared to an operator such as BF with a network concentrated mostly in a single area (Western Channel).  Its becoming pretty clear that STX are going to lead the way in LNG + dual fuel given Viking Grace was also an STX (Finland) build.

It appears Fjord line refuel daily whilst BF are going to do so weekly.  Given that in order to travel the same distance you need twice the volume of LNG (from memory) as fuel oil it will be interesting to see how they accommodate such large tanks while allaying safety concerns (especially regarding potential collisions) given that a spark could turn the ship into a massive bomb!  There is also going to be the facility for her to run on conventional fuel as a reserve but interestingly instead of directly driving the propellers from the engines they plan to use a diesel-electric arrangement (I assume similar to that used in trains) which is something I always wondered why nobody had tried before.

Did anybody notice the crew numbers?  Mer et Maritime state she will have a crew of 189 accommodated in 200 berths.  By comparison Stena Britannnica carries a crew of 85!  BF's cost cutting program does't appear to be going too well!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on February 18, 2014, 04:16:14 PM
Brittany Ferries always have high crew compliments on their vessels , its part of their 5 star service ethos , although this will most likely not carry over to their new economy service.
I believe a lot of the problems with LNG have been overcome , I read somewhere that Viking Grace's fuel has an additive in it that should the LNG come into contact with air it will turn into an inert gas , the main issue that is still to be refined is the high pressure storage tanks , while the fuel in the tanks will become harmless in the event the tank is breached , the explosive decompression from a tank breach is still to be overcome.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: bfm003 on February 18, 2014, 08:08:49 PM
Well I have no objection to the EU supporting European shipbuilding through new technology support , so long as its available to ALL European yards and not just French ones.
I am sure Stena Line (or P&O) would be thrilled to receive EU money to build an LNG powered prototype for its Northern Corridor services at H&W  ;D
Stena seem to prefer going the methanol route anyway.  I suppose when your network is so spread out the infrastructure investment is disproportionate compared to an operator such as BF with a network concentrated mostly in a single area (Western Channel).  Its becoming pretty clear that STX are going to lead the way in LNG + dual fuel given Viking Grace was also an STX (Finland) build.

It appears Fjord line refuel daily whilst BF are going to do so weekly.  Given that in order to travel the same distance you need twice the volume of LNG (from memory) as fuel oil it will be interesting to see how they accommodate such large tanks while allaying safety concerns (especially regarding potential collisions) given that a spark could turn the ship into a massive bomb!  There is also going to be the facility for her to run on conventional fuel as a reserve but interestingly instead of directly driving the propellers from the engines they plan to use a diesel-electric arrangement (I assume similar to that used in trains) which is something I always wondered why nobody had tried before.

Did anybody notice the crew numbers?  Mer et Maritime state she will have a crew of 189 accommodated in 200 berths.  By comparison Stena Britannnica carries a crew of 85!  BF's cost cutting program does't appear to be going too well!

Eh? You mean like almost every modern cruise ship?
Cruise ships have been diesel electric for years now. With main propulsion supplied from big propulsion motors. Instead of say for example the ships have four main engines and four generator engines modern cruise ships will have a lot more generator engines and no main engines.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on February 18, 2014, 09:11:17 PM
Well I have no objection to the EU supporting European shipbuilding through new technology support , so long as its available to ALL European yards and not just French ones.
I am sure Stena Line (or P&O) would be thrilled to receive EU money to build an LNG powered prototype for its Northern Corridor services at H&W  ;D
Stena seem to prefer going the methanol route anyway.  I suppose when your network is so spread out the infrastructure investment is disproportionate compared to an operator such as BF with a network concentrated mostly in a single area (Western Channel).  Its becoming pretty clear that STX are going to lead the way in LNG + dual fuel given Viking Grace was also an STX (Finland) build.

It appears Fjord line refuel daily whilst BF are going to do so weekly.  Given that in order to travel the same distance you need twice the volume of LNG (from memory) as fuel oil it will be interesting to see how they accommodate such large tanks while allaying safety concerns (especially regarding potential collisions) given that a spark could turn the ship into a massive bomb!  There is also going to be the facility for her to run on conventional fuel as a reserve but interestingly instead of directly driving the propellers from the engines they plan to use a diesel-electric arrangement (I assume similar to that used in trains) which is something I always wondered why nobody had tried before.

Did anybody notice the crew numbers?  Mer et Maritime state she will have a crew of 189 accommodated in 200 berths.  By comparison Stena Britannnica carries a crew of 85!  BF's cost cutting program does't appear to be going too well!

Eh? You mean like almost every modern cruise ship?
Cruise ships have been diesel electric for years now. With main propulsion supplied from big propulsion motors. Instead of say for example the ships have four main engines and four generator engines modern cruise ships will have a lot more generator engines and no main engines.

I was referring to ferries though.  Are you aware of any other large diesel-electric ferries, I certainly cant think of any (but could be wrong, though I think there are some examples of smaller passenger ferries)?  Part of me can see this becoming Brittany Ferries HSS.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on February 20, 2014, 10:33:47 PM
The daily mirror published an article about economie last week.  The way its worded you would think Brittany Ferries invented few frills ferry travel (rather than doing the opposite all these years"

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Brittany Ferries is planning budget weekend crossings between Portsmouth and Santander in northern Spain and weekdays to Le Havre in Normandy from March 25


No frills: Brittany Ferries' new 'economie' service
After no-frills flights comes... the no-frills ferry service.

Brittany Ferries is planning budget weekend crossings between Portsmouth and Santander in northern Spain and weekdays to Le Havre in Normandy from March 25.

The service is branded ‘economie’ and will offer low fares minus the usual cruise-style experience on a vessel chartered from Stena Line.

Passengers can still expect decent Gallic grub on board – though with a limited choice – and cabins will all be en-suite, but without carpets.

There will be a lounge where seats can be reserved for overnight crossings and pet-friendly and accessible cabins. Entertainment will be restricted to a film lounge.

One way fares for a car plus two passengers this spring will start at £79 to France and £169 to Spain, including reclining seats.

A Brittany Ferries spokesman said: “We feel that there is an opening for a no-frills, great-value service which will appeal to those who are on a tight budget and may not have even considered travelling by ferry before.

‘’While economie will not provide the same high level of service and facilities with which Brittany Ferries has become associated, it will offer something altogether simpler and with exceptional value.”

The move follows the introduction of a rival service by LD Lines, who launched crossings between Poole and Santander in November.

Bookings will open online at brittanyferries.com/economie in a few weeks, but registrations can now be made on 0871 244 1400
http://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/travel/brittany-ferries-launches-no-frills-economie-3145809?

No carpets in the cabins? Does that mean wooden floors then? ;) :D
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on March 03, 2014, 01:45:53 AM
Brittany Ferries 2014 Cork - Roscoff season will commence on March 14th departing Roscoff and 15th March departing Cork , Pont Aven will operate all sailings bar one notable exception , Bretagne will close the season departing 31st October from Roscoff and 1st November from Cork on what will probarbly be Bretagne's final visit to Cork.
Below from www.shipspotting.com MV Bretagne
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on March 05, 2014, 01:41:50 PM
Brittany Ferries 2014 Cork - Roscoff season will commence on March 14th departing Roscoff and 15th March departing Cork , Pont Aven will operate all sailings bar one notable exception , Bretagne will close the season departing 31st October from Roscoff and 1st November from Cork on what will probarbly be Bretagne's final visit to Cork.
Below from www.shipspotting.com MV Bretagne

Must try and get on that final Bretagne sailing. A really great vessel.

BTW the sailings seem to have been pushed  back a week according to http://www.brittanyferries.ie/ferry-routes/ireland-france-ferries/cork-roscoff/timetable (http://www.brittanyferries.ie/ferry-routes/ireland-france-ferries/cork-roscoff/timetable)The Cork- Roscoff season doesn;t start til March 21st departing Roscoff and 22nd March departing Cork
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on March 05, 2014, 03:48:30 PM
The timetable change is strange , I wonder is there a problem with Pont Aven , it has yet to return from overhaul and Armorique is still operating Pont Avens schedule , what a time for something like that happen though , Brittany Ferries will not only miss St Patricks Festival , but the cancelled sailings coincide with the closure of airports and an Aer Lingus strike , talk about bad timing.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on March 05, 2014, 06:25:41 PM
Pont Aven has a damaged rudder and is in Dunkerque for repairs

Apparently damgaged the rudder by hitting a linkspan in port, D'OH!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on March 09, 2014, 08:16:31 PM
Pont Aven has a rudder motor failure and nothing to do with hitting anything docking related.

Apparently this is an image of the rudder shaft being worked on

https://imageshack.com/i/0n4m3aj

Images of the Pont Aven Dunkerque here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/toussolidairesavecbrittanyferries/

Armorique is covering at the moment, interesting image of it with the front bottom windows plated over for the rougher crossings on the Bay of Biscay.

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1987265
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on March 09, 2014, 08:37:58 PM
The Norman Voyager is supposed to be handed over to Brittany Ferries from tonight, one would expect it to proceed to drydock for a hull repaint and renaming as Etretat.

It is still on the DFDS booking engine though the Seven Sisters is in LeHarve to take up the sailings from the Voyager.

Sailings are due to commence on March 25th

http://www.brittany-ferries.co.uk/economie

Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on March 12, 2014, 09:27:00 PM
The former Norman Voyager is being repainted in LeHarve but not in drydock, here are some images of the new Etretat

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=275361799306305&set=pcb.275363099306175&type=1&permPage=1
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on March 13, 2014, 06:02:43 PM
Pont Aven is fixed and in Cherbourg getting ready to begin service again.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Oscar Wilde on March 14, 2014, 09:52:08 PM
Why does Brittany Ferries paint their logo on the side of the new vessel and Irish Ferries didn't?  Is this because Brittany Ferries have money to throw away?
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steam Packet on March 15, 2014, 12:15:11 AM
Why does Brittany Ferries paint their logo on the side of the new vessel and Irish Ferries didn't?  Is this because Brittany Ferries have money to throw away?

Have you considered stand-up. Brittany ferries dont have money to throw away, maybe they think their new ship will be in the fleet long-term, whereas Irish Ferries are, rumoured, to only have Epsilon short term.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on March 16, 2014, 01:25:26 AM
Why does Brittany Ferries paint their logo on the side of the new vessel and Irish Ferries didn't?  Is this because Brittany Ferries have money to throw away?
The charter agreement for Epsilon may not allow for a full repaint or full renaming, whereas Stena RoRo have obviously allowed BF to go all out on a repaint and new name.  Most people probably don't notice anyway!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on March 16, 2014, 02:29:03 PM
Etretat (ex-Norman Voyager) did not get a full repaint , only a funnel repaint (which Epsilon got) and application of the company name on the hull , and the hull logo's are quite small , as can be seen in the picture below from www.shipspotting.com
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on March 16, 2014, 06:44:23 PM
Etretat (ex-Norman Voyager) did not get a full repaint , only a funnel repaint (which Epsilon got) and application of the company name on the hull , and the hull logo's are quite small , as can be seen in the picture below from www.shipspotting.com
AFAIK it was done alongside at Le Havre as well.  At the end of the day, the funnel is the bit people are most likely to see.  The hull is usually largely hidden in port and the time it is visible in open sea from the shore will be limited as well.  Doesn't sound like they have done much inside to her either.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on March 18, 2014, 10:02:05 PM
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The 2,474 passenger/800 car LNG fueled ferry ordered by Brittany Ferries from shipbuilder STX France SA will be classed by Bureau Veritas which will also oversee the conversion of three existing Brittany Ferries ROpax vessels to LNG.

A major risk analysis carried out by Bureau Veritas and its Tecnitas subsidiary helped Brittany Ferries reach its decision to switch part of its fleet to gas fuel.

"We are proud to be deeply involved in this major project, not only by performing the required risk analysis for the ships but also together with Brittany Ferries working with the ports they serve on the logistics and bunkering," said Jean Jacques Juenet, passenger ship manager, Bureau Veritas. "With a clear picture of the economics and safety issues and certainty about the fuel supply Brittany Ferries was able to take the crucial decision to adapt to new emission rules by making a full switch to gas power."

The 24.5 knot ship newbuild be one of the largest LNG-powered ROpaxes yet. It will utilize GTT membrane tank technology for the gas containment tanks, allowing a larger capacity and extended period between bunkering operations.
http://www.marinelog.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=6365:bv-to-class-brittany-ferries-gas-fueled-ropax-newbuild&Itemid=226
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on March 23, 2014, 09:14:49 PM
The Pont Aven made its return to Ringaskiddy yesterday, some information on the crossing here:

http://forums.bfenthusiasts.com/showthread.php?t=12517
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on July 01, 2014, 01:11:09 AM
The CEO of STX France has revealed that Brittany Ferries are struggling to raise the required finance for the PEGASIS project, with the deadline looming near.  This comes as SNCM appear to no longer be able to proceed with their planned order for LNG ships following a failure to extend their letter of intent, also with STX France.  It appears those of us who had doubts about the amounts of money involved and the scale of these projects may have been right to have these doubts.

http://www.saintnazaire-infos.fr/stx-l-etat-tombe-le-masque-la-sncm-ne-pourra-pas-commander-ses-quatre-navires-pour-renouveler-sa-flotte-25-52-2798.html
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on July 01, 2014, 01:24:52 AM
The CEO of STX France has revealed that Brittany Ferries are struggling to raise the required finance for the PEGASIS project, with the deadline looming near.  This comes as SNCM appear to no longer be able to proceed with their planned order for LNG ships following a failure to extend their letter of intent, also with STX France.  It appears those of us who had doubts about the amounts of money involved and the scale of these projects may have been right to have these doubts.

http://www.saintnazaire-infos.fr/stx-l-etat-tombe-le-masque-la-sncm-ne-pourra-pas-commander-ses-quatre-navires-pour-renouveler-sa-flotte-25-52-2798.html

Some more on this.  It would appear that the deadline has now passed.  I understand that STX France have a very full schedule and the ship would have needed to have been confirmed by the end of June in order to be completed in time for the next build to commence - she was sandwiched in between two other orders.  This Google translation isnt great but you can get the gist of whats being said.

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rittany Ferries: Ordering the new ship can it go down the drain?
06/27/2014

Folder (s): Brittany Ferries STX FRANCE (Chantiers de Saint-Nazaire)

The site of Saint-Nazaire, more concern about the project can not Pegasis cache. This is the largest ship with a propulsion LNG STX France must build for Brittany Ferries ( see our detailed article on the project ). The construction of the "I34", as it is called in the estuary of the Loire, was announced in January and has been a firm order, with delivery scheduled for late 2016. But it depends, as with any contract of this type, the closure of the financial package. However, the period during which the owner must finalize financing of the order expires in the next few days (the deadline is at the end of June). And Brittany Ferries has not raised the necessary funds to launch this investment of € 270 million. Ideally, one could imagine that the site leaves his client a few more months to complete the record. Except that Saint-Nazaire, now there is urgency, the workload of the site is being replenished in recent months, with the order by Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd and MSC Cruises three giant liners (for RCCL B34, E34 and F34 for MSC), delivered in 2017, 2018 and 2019. Pegasis The hull must therefore necessarily pass before that of E34, or it will return to its construction later. "We can not wait because in our workload, we just behind (Pegasis) the two vessels to MSC. If Brittany Ferries can not get the funding in place quickly, there will be only two options: either stop the contract or the push of a year, "recognizes the direction of the site.
Funding boats arms Breton
It is the collective interest Agricultural Society of Saint-Pol-de-Leon, who is the project financially. Gathering the producers in northern Finistère, SICA's memory to the origin of the creation in 1972 of Bretagne Angleterre Irlande (BAI), which became the Brittany Ferries on. The Leonards farmers had then had a brilliant idea, driven by Alexis Gourvennec, based maritime armament originally intended to develop the export of their production of vegetables to the British Isles. Very quickly, the company has also developed the segment of passengers, becoming a key player for the transport in France for British holidaymakers. Important economic vector, both at the farm level and in general cargo and tourism, with every conceivable impact on the regions served, Brittany Ferries has long relied on local authorities to expand its fleet. Different companies of mixed economy were created with the regions, Brittany, Normandy and the Pays de la Loire time to buy new ships, properties of SEM and were then leased to the company. A formula that offers the particular advantage to reassure banks, regions representing alone make a guarantee for the repayment of loans when ordering boats.

The absence of the government guarantee and the spectrum of the sulfur directive?
However, in this case, public authorities, whose budgets are very tight today, are not engaged in financing Pegasis. SICA is alone liable to pay the new building, incidentally the most expensive in the history of the company. The lack of public participation and the guarantee that it is from banks, but also access via regional financial engineering very useful for the development of a banking turn table, they prevent Brittany Ferries raise € 270 million? While the company does everything to get Europe within two years to bring its fleet in accordance with the new regulations related to the reduction of sulfur emissions ( see our article on the subject ), applicable on 1 January 2015, it is also conceivable that financial institutions consider the strategy Brittany Ferries as hazardous. Although his arguments are more relevant, immediate transition to LNG propulsion is environmentally better, there is no assurance that the weapons get an exemption, and if this is not the case, it will be in a financial position very delicate. Finally, if the company was unable to raise the necessary funds to Pegasis, how she would be able to obtain the financing necessary to adapt its fleet? For the consolidation of Brittany, Pont Aven and Mont St Michel with LNG propulsion and systems integration wash smoke (scrubber) on Cape Finisterre, Normandy and Barfleur, will require a heavy investment. Certainly it is not as important as Pegasis, but still represents € 130 million to put on the table by spring 2017.

Brittany Ferries refuses to comment
These questions, we have asked Brittany Ferries, who did not wish to answer. Our colleagues are the Telegram, meanwhile, managed to join Jean-Marc Roue. The President of the armament was recognized, there is a ten days (when Brittany Ferries, supported by Shipowners France, has launched a new media offensive for its derogation from Directive sulfur) that the closure of the financial package was "complicated". He however noted that it was often the case, citing for example the acquisition of Cape Finisterre in 2010. But on June 18, the existence of a deadline so close was not known last night and face journalists now perfume, Jean-Marc Roue was not very talkative, "We have no comment to make. We are not here to comment on the remarks made by STX to the press. It is their responsibility, "he was merely responding to the Telegram. As at maturity revealed by the nearby Saint-Nazaire shipyard, are, he says, "information that does not have to be disclosed." Reaction a bit annoyed while STX France is nevertheless equally concerned with the realization of this project or not. Indeed, if Pegasis were to fall overboard or be postponed, it would be a blow to Brittany Ferries. But also to Saint-Nazaire since I34, whose construction should begin by year-end, representing 2.6 million hours of work for the site and its subcontractors. Abandonment or postponement would have a significant impact on the workload in 2015 and 2016. Besides this ferry is a major technological challenge for STX France. Indeed, it is with him that the French manufacturer is embarking on the growth market of LNG powered ship
www.meretmarine.com/fr/content/brittany-ferries-la-commande-du-nouveau-navire-peut-elle-tomber-leau
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: TC on July 02, 2014, 11:46:23 PM
Its a pity they couldn't do a bit of the old joint effort. P&O wouldn't be a bad partner (much of the P&O fleet is 20+ hence in the next 10 years will need replacing). BF and P&O as ye know were in competition back in the 90s, but with P&O's withdrawal from Portsmouth, and recognition of BF's 'turf', and vice a versa BF recognising P&O's stomping ground, I doubt co-operation would be a negative.

All the same, co-operation with Stena for the additional finance / stake in the project, could help bridge the gap. It would be useful for both operators, especially Stena given the age of a lot of vessels (cough... Stena Europe... cough Stena Danica... cough Stena Saga... ect).
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on July 03, 2014, 12:48:30 AM
Its a pity they couldn't do a bit of the old joint effort. P&O wouldn't be a bad partner (much of the P&O fleet is 20+ hence in the next 10 years will need replacing). BF and P&O as ye know were in competition back in the 90s, but with P&O's withdrawal from Portsmouth, and recognition of BF's 'turf', and vice a versa BF recognising P&O's stomping ground, I doubt co-operation would be a negative.

All the same, co-operation with Stena for the additional finance / stake in the project, could help bridge the gap. It would be useful for both operators, especially Stena given the age of a lot of vessels (cough... Stena Europe... cough Stena Danica... cough Stena Saga... ect).
Stena have their own ideas to work with.  I really like the methanol idea myself and hope it is a success.  The Stena fleet may be ageing but its generally well looked after, and the modernisation of Spirit and Vision perhaps indicates they are willing to invest to extend the lives of their existing fleet until a time when the technology is more developed.  Much has been made of operators increasing prices to cover additional fuel expense but the additional capital to purchase or upgrade vessels also has to come from somewhere - ticket prices.

I have read that BF are to ask STX for another few weeks but given its already a tight schedule and some of the technology has yet to be developed its far from certain wether that would be possible.  Personally I think spending such a large sum on a single vessel with unproven technology is madness.  The French government will probably be under pressure to step in but I'm not sure what they can do without giving illegal state aid.  BF have been rather gung-ho in their approach to MARPOL IMO, though should be commended for taking decisive action rather than dithering.

By the time PEGASIS is built (if it is built) she could be outdated now the incentive is there for new technology to reduce emissions to be developed.  The infrastructure isnt even in place (or secured) to support such a vessel either as of yet.  For example there has been a lot of development in internal combustion engine technology over recent years.  Who would have thought 20 years ago a family car could be powered by a 0.9l petrol engine?  Or a double decker bus by a 5l diesel engine even 5 years ago (when 7l was considered too small by some).  The incentive for manufacturers to develop such technology was due to emissions legislation and the need to reduce fuel consumption, - the same incentive the marine industry is now facing.  There's also further opportunity to optimise hull forms and the like to reduce drag and hence fuel consumption and consequently emissions.  There's also bound to be technology which can crossover form the aeronautical and space industries to further increase efficiencies.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on August 19, 2014, 04:50:13 PM
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Brittany Ferries vessels face time out of service
The Poole-Cherbourg Barfleur ferry will be out of service from mid-March 2015 to mid-May 2015

Six ferries are to be taken out of service at various points over the next three years as part of a £320m improvement programme.

Brittany Ferries said its Normandie, Cap Finistere and Barfleur vessels were to be fitted with exhaust filters in order to reduce sulphur emissions.

Mont St Michel, Armorique and Pont-Aven will be converted to run on liquefied natural gas.

The ships link Portsmouth, Poole and Plymouth with Spain and France.

The work to fit "scrubbers" to reduce sulphur emissions will cost between £7m and £10m per ship and is needed to comply with EU regulations.

Brittany Ferries said it had planned the work for quieter periods and advised customers to consider using alternative ports and destinations.

The ferries will be out of service from:

Normandie (Portsmouth-Caen): Mid-October 2014 to end December 2014*
Cap Finistere (Portsmouth-Bilbao/Santander): Mid-January 2015 to mid-March 2015
Barfleur (Poole-Cherbourg): Mid-March 2015 to mid-May 2015
Mont St Michel (Portsmouth-Caen): September 2015 to December 2015
Armorique (Plymouth-Roscoff): January 2016 to May 2016
Pont-Aven (Portsmouth-Santander/Plymouth-Santander/Plymouth-Roscoff/Cork-Roscoff) - November 2016 to March 2017
*The high-speed Normandie Express ferry will operate the Poole-Cherbourg route from 30 April-14
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28832825
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: TC on August 31, 2014, 07:53:50 PM
Any idea where the work will be carried out? I'm guessing Poland or France.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on September 03, 2014, 12:57:52 AM
Remontowa in Gdansk would be my guess , but only a guess.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on September 03, 2014, 05:23:41 AM
I think I read STX France where doing some of the work somewhere, though could be wrong.  Remontowa would have been my guess as well though, especially given they have expertise in this field as well.  Still can't help feeling that a lot of money is being potentially wasted on a largely unproven technology in this application.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: mrwtho07 on September 04, 2014, 11:08:27 PM
Given the DFDS Baltic Fleet, I am dreading the Brittany Ferries future look!!! (shudders)
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on September 06, 2014, 09:55:38 PM
Given the DFDS Baltic Fleet, I am dreading the Brittany Ferries future look!!! (shudders)
Given Brittany Ferries attention to detail on their ships I would expect to result of their conversions to be easier on the eye than those of DFDS.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on September 10, 2014, 03:46:09 AM
Looks like PEGASIS could be dead, with 2018 likely to be the delivery year IF finance is in place by the end of this year!

http://www.meretmarine.com/fr/content/stx-france-le-projet-de-brittany-ferries-suspendu
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: mrwtho07 on September 10, 2014, 09:13:51 PM
Given the DFDS Baltic Fleet, I am dreading the Brittany Ferries future look!!! (shudders)
Given Brittany Ferries attention to detail on their ships I would expect to result of their conversions to be easier on the eye than those of DFDS.

Well I sincerely hope you are right.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on October 13, 2014, 03:51:19 PM
According to shippax, BF have now suspended all of their LNG plans.  The 3 ships which where to be converted to LNG will now have scrubbers fitted instead.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on October 13, 2014, 10:37:58 PM
According to shippax, BF have now suspended all of their LNG plans.  The 3 ships which where to be converted to LNG will now have scrubbers fitted instead.

posted on

http://bfenthusiasts.com/forum/forum/brittany-ferries-forums/the-news-board/7625-the-cost-of-changing-fuel-from-2015-scrubbers-gnl-conversions/page15

From BF themselves, always thought the planned spend was ludicrous for retrofitting LNG to the fleet, would assume project Pegasis will not happen either for quite a long time, hopefully they will get the scrubbers a bit more integrated than DFDS have managed so far.....


‘Double penalty’ forces Brittany Ferries to suspend its LNG plans

Ferry operator Brittany Ferries has been forced to suspend its plans to upgrade much of its fleet to operate on Liquefied Natural Gas (LNG). At the beginning of 2014, the company committed itself to an ecological transition plan in response to new regulations relating to sulphur emissions which will come into effect on 1st January 2015.

The plan included the installation of scrubbers (gas filters) on three ships, and the conversion of three newer ships to allow them to operate on LNG. It also included the construction of an LNG cruise-ferry.

However, the preconditions enabling the plan to be financially viable have not been met.

Brittany Ferries has worked tirelessly over recent years to convince governments of the desperate need for a temporary exemption from the new rules, contained within the revised MARPOL Annex VI.

However, with the January deadline fast approaching, it appears unlikely that such an exemption will be granted. This is despite Brittany Ferries’ ambitious plan going above and beyond what is required by the new rules, thanks to its reliance on LNG, which exceeds requirements concerning emissions of sulphur, CO2, nitrous oxide and particulate emissions.

The company is simply unable to bear the costs of the double penalty that would be incurred by this programme.

Jean Marc Roué, Brittany Ferries’ chairman commented, “It is impossible for us to commit to an ecological transition plan which requires such a high level of investment, when, due to the absence of a temporary exemption, we will also incur hefty additional annual costs amounting to tens of millions of euros, due to us being obliged to use diesel instead of heavy fuel oil until our ships have been converted.”

“We have worked tirelessly for a temporary exemption but these efforts have sadly been in vain. Without it, the economic viability of our LNG programme is in jeopardy. It is my duty to protect the company and its staff at a time when the European ferry industry is confronting numerous challenges.”

“All of our partners who have worked with us on this project have demonstrated the technical feasibility and the environmental benefits of this pioneering, futuristic technology. However I have taken the decision to suspend the LNG component of our ecological transition plan. It’s a decision I take with much regret and disappointment.”

Despite these difficulties, the company is still undertaking a wide-ranging, albeit less ambitious transition plan, which will meet or exceed what the requirements of the new rules. The scheme includes the installation of scrubbers on the three ships which it had planned to convert to operate on LNG, and represents an investment of 70-80 million euros.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on October 29, 2014, 10:56:26 AM
Bretagne due in Cork at 11.30 Saturday for the last sailing this year on Cork Roscoff. Departing again at 14.30
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on November 02, 2014, 10:11:11 AM
Few pics from Bretagne arriving in Cork yesterday

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5604/15688909595_3126a46400_c.jpg)

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3956/15690517712_32d6acbdb0_c.jpg)

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(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7509/15665189106_e8784ffbd9_c.jpg)

Few more here https://www.flickr.com/photos/yiddo2009/sets/72157648681376158/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/yiddo2009/sets/72157648681376158/)
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on November 02, 2014, 03:47:27 PM
Great images, looks very impressive for one of the oldest in their fleet, very well looked after. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on November 02, 2014, 06:10:21 PM
Nice work! First 2 look great!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on November 02, 2014, 11:44:00 PM
Some images of the Normandie currently being refitted with the addition of Scrubbbers on the following link:

http://www.pinterest.com/brittanyferries/a-normandie-make-over/

hopefully the new funnel will not be too hideous !
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on March 21, 2015, 11:15:38 AM
Pont Aven arrived on time at 9.30am this morning in Ringaskiddy from Roscoff.  Pics https://www.flickr.com/photos/yiddo2009/sets/72157651035482037/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/yiddo2009/sets/72157651035482037/)

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8732/16891230422_5596aace26_z.jpg)

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Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on April 16, 2016, 12:21:05 AM
Not previously mentioned here , the vessel that inaugurated the Cork - Roscoff service MV Armorique (not to be confused with the current Armorique) while operating as Mustikha Kencana II was destroyed by fire and sank while operating the Surabaya - Makassar route in 2011 , shame as it was a beautiful classic car ferry , but I suppose would have hit the beech by now anyway had it not been lost at sea.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: corkbuoy on May 17, 2016, 06:42:13 PM
Pont Aven still out of service following propeller shaft problem.

http://www.brittanyferries.ie/ferry-routes/sailing-updates

Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ferryfan on May 18, 2016, 11:21:18 AM
Pont-Aven sailings to and from Cork/Roscoff this weekend cancelled.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on May 28, 2016, 10:55:08 PM
Pont Aven back on the Roscoff/Cork run again. Few pics of her arriving in Cork harbour this morning. Still can't get used to the funnel  :'(

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7799/27037694140_cf05a4567f_c.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7440/27215596162_c36892585b_c.jpg)

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Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Matt73 on May 31, 2016, 10:26:36 PM
Thank you. The funnel is absolutely hideous and horrendous; they have ruined a lovely looking ship.  Surely there could have been a more aesthetically pleasing way to fit the scrubbers?

Matt
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on May 31, 2016, 10:53:51 PM
Thank you. The funnel is absolutely hideous and horrendous; they have ruined a lovely looking ship.  Surely there could have been a more aesthetically pleasing way to fit the scrubbers?

Matt

It depends on the ship, in comparison, you'd hardly notice the Normandie had work done for example...
(http://www.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/1/6/7/2164761.jpg)
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Matt73 on June 01, 2016, 06:03:47 PM
Thank you. The funnel is absolutely hideous and horrendous; they have ruined a lovely looking ship.  Surely there could have been a more aesthetically pleasing way to fit the scrubbers?

Matt

It depends on the ship, in comparison, you'd hardly notice the Normandie had work done for example...
(http://www.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/1/6/7/2164761.jpg)

That's true, Kieran, which begs the question: why couldn't the Pont Aven's work be as, relatively, unobstrusive as the Normandie's?

Nice pic of the Normandie.

Matt

Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on June 02, 2016, 01:26:53 AM
Thank you. The funnel is absolutely hideous and horrendous; they have ruined a lovely looking ship.  Surely there could have been a more aesthetically pleasing way to fit the scrubbers?

Matt

It depends on the ship, in comparison, you'd hardly notice the Normandie had work done for example...
(http://www.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/1/6/7/2164761.jpg)

That's true, Kieran, which begs the question: why couldn't the Pont Aven's work be as, relatively, unobstrusive as the Normandie's?

Nice pic of the Normandie.

Matt
Depends very much on the ship in question, existing emission levels, and the chosen system, etc.  Some engine types may need more "correction" than others, and some funnel casings will have more space in them (or the ship will have more space available close by in a less visually offensive location).  At least she doesn't look as bad as some of DFDS' efforts though!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on October 25, 2016, 01:57:03 PM
Brittnay Ferries new build to launch spring 2019 on Ouistreham to Portsmouth route?

http://www.letelegramme.fr/bretagne/mer/brittany-ferries-un-12e-navire-en-projet-24-10-2016-11267692.php?share_auth=4f72d3b1cfe19529d8d7fc6749e1faac#closePopUp (http://www.letelegramme.fr/bretagne/mer/brittany-ferries-un-12e-navire-en-projet-24-10-2016-11267692.php?share_auth=4f72d3b1cfe19529d8d7fc6749e1faac#closePopUp)

(http://www.letelegramme.fr/images/2016/10/24/brittany-ferries-un-12e-navire-en-projet_3144189_540x354p.JPG)
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on March 31, 2018, 08:09:08 PM
Few pics of Pont Aven departing on the first Cork-Roscoff sailing of the year this afternoon

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/788/41141680401_30cd561767_c.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/868/26269678847_4aecc0c3c4_c.jpg)

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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/875/41097742242_bd7e8b6961_c.jpg)

Some more here https://www.flickr.com/photos/yiddo2009/albums/72157651035482037 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/yiddo2009/albums/72157651035482037) on my Brittany Ferries Flckr page.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Matt73 on April 03, 2018, 06:09:38 PM
Thanks for these.  Great pictures.  I have said it before and will do so again, the scrubbers have totally ruined the ship's profile.  Such a pity, especially in the light of Steven's comments on another thread.

Matt
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: IFPete on April 03, 2018, 06:56:29 PM
I agree both it and Monte Saint Micheal have been ruined due to size of scrubber intallation.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on April 05, 2018, 01:38:44 PM
Thanks for these.  Great pictures.  I have said it before and will do so again, the scrubbers have totally ruined the ship's profile.  Such a pity, especially in the light of Steven's comments on another thread.

Matt

I have to say I'm still as shocked at how bad they look now as I was the first time I saw them. 
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on May 25, 2018, 12:13:04 AM
Brittany Ferries are to charter a second E-Flexer from Stena, so thats No.s 3 & 6 for Brittany Ferries.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on June 09, 2018, 12:52:01 AM
Brittany Ferries are to charter a second E-Flexer from Stena, so thats No.s 3 & 6 for Brittany Ferries.

The full press release as shared at https://www.niferry.co.uk/pr-brittany-ferries-new-ferries-spanish-routes/

Released on behalf of Brittany Ferries, 25th May 2018
Brittany Ferries has today confirmed the charter of two brand new cruise-ferries to serve its long-haul UK to Spain routes. Both ships will be built at the Avic International Weihai shipyard in China, with the first arriving in time for the 2021 holiday season.

The latest investment underlines the company’s commitment to Portsmouth and to its Spanish routes. It comes after work began this spring on a brand new LNG (liquefied natural gas) cruise ferry called Honfleur to serve its most popular Portsmouth – Caen crossing. Like Honfleur, which arrives in 2019, both ships announced today will be registered under the French flag and will be crewed by French seafarers.

Together the three ships will spearhead a wide-ranging, five-year fleet-renewal and modernisation programme worth around £400m.

Portsmouth is Brittany Ferries’ UK hub and will serve as the base for both ships. Upon arrival they will cater for an ever-increasing demand for long-haul ferry travel to Spain. In 2017 the company operated 844 sailings on routes from Portsmouth, Poole and Plymouth to Santander (Cantabria) and Bilbao (Basque Country), carrying 331,000 passengers and 150,000 cars. That was around 80 per cent more than ten years earlier.

“Spain is by far the most popular foreign destination for UK holidaymakers, and we have seen significant growth in demand,” said Jean-Marc Roué, Brittany Ferries’ president. “Post-Brexit, we expect this to continue and today’s announcement is a clear statement of intent. As well as passenger traffic, we believe that an increase in freight capacity will open the door to more hauliers seeking direct access between Britain and the Iberian peninsula.”

Last year, Brittany Ferries carried around 40,000 freight units from UK to Spain. Lorry drivers are able to relax as the sea takes the strain, reducing fuel costs, tolls and road pollution that comes from driving long-haul through France.

Measuring 42,400 tonnes and 215 metres long, the new vessels will be the longest in Brittany Ferries’ fleet. If Portsmouth’s Spinnaker Tower were laid on its side, each would outstretch it by 45 metres. These impressive dimensions will allow them to carry almost two miles of freight vehicles apiece.

The new ships are being chartered from Swedish shipping company Stena RoRo, as part of its new generation of state-of-the-art ‘E-Flexer’ vessels. Both will be gas-ready and promise a combination of luxury and Spanish style. “These ships will be like twins,” added Catherine Querné, Brittany Ferries strategy director. “Outwardly, they will have the same dimensions and shape, but they will be dressed very differently. And of course each will have its own unique personality.”

There will be plenty for passengers on board. Three spacious passenger decks will host boutiques, a café, restaurant, bar and an exclusive club lounge. Around 300 en-suite cabins will cater for approximately 1,000 passengers and many will be adapted for customers with disabilities, as well as those travelling with their pet dog or cat (Brittany Ferries carries around 70,000 annually).

Elegant décor will ensure everyone feels in the holiday mood as soon as they step on board. Brittany Ferries will be working with Spanish interior designers to give the ships a stylish, modern feel and feel, evoking the golden coasts, verdant landscapes and vibrant towns of España Verde (Green Spain) on the northern coastline.

Today’s announcement follows the launch of the first ever direct ferry service linking Ireland with Spain in April. Brittany Ferries’ CONNEMARA (external link) made its first call into Santander from Cork on 9 May 2018. The year 2018 also marks 40 years of continuous services linking Britain with the Iberian Peninsula. Since 1978 more than 5.5 million passengers have enjoyed Spain without the ‘plane thanks to Brittany Ferries.


Artists rendering of Brittany Ferries' HONFLEUR. © Brittany Ferries.
Technical specifications:

Length   214.5m
Breadth   27.8m
Draught   6.4m
Tonnage   42,400
Service Speed   22 knots
Decks   10
Passengers   1,000
Passenger cabins   Around 300 plus 36 for freight drivers
About Brittany Ferries

Brittany Ferries is a passenger car and freight service operating from eleven ports, linking four countries: UK – France, UK – Spain, Ireland – France and Ireland – Spain. The company was set up by a collective of French farmers as a freight-only operator, running from Roscoff in Brittany to Plymouth with the first crossing taking place on 1 January 1973, the date the United Kingdom joined the EEC (forerunner to the EU).

The aim then was to bring French agricultural products to a wider British market. However, the service quickly developed into an operation carrying hundreds of thousands of British tourists, eager to experience the delights of Brittany and Normandy. Today Brittany Ferries is the market leader on the Western Channel for passengers and for freight. It is also a leading supplier of ferry-inclusive motoring holidays to France and Spain

https://brittanyferriesnewsroom.com/brittany-ferries-invests-in-two-new-cruise-ferries-for-long-haul-spanish-routes/
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on June 09, 2018, 09:57:57 PM
Just in case anyone missed it on the timetable, MV Bretagne will operate the Cork Roscoff service on November 02 (Roscoff)and 03 (Cork) this year, given that the winter timetable is yet to be announced it may or may not be Bretagne's only appearance in Cork this year.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on June 10, 2018, 02:01:03 PM
In an article in the French press it has been stated that BAI are looking at ordering a fourth new build - a replacement for BRETAGNE.  No order before next year though.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on June 20, 2018, 06:09:23 PM
Almost 50 pics of Connemara departing Ringaskiddy today bound for Santander added to https://flic.kr/s/aHsk8PJNE2 (https://flic.kr/s/aHsk8PJNE2)

Here's a few

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Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: IFPete on June 20, 2018, 09:59:01 PM
Please see the competition from P&O.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on June 24, 2018, 11:24:35 PM
Out and about in Cork harbour on Friday evening and managed to get up close with the Connemara.

Picture attached with the Vemahonesty alongside bunkering.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on June 26, 2018, 11:06:05 PM
Great pic.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on June 29, 2018, 11:45:05 PM
Great pic.

Thanks, no idea how to post a bigger image, but we got as close as possible to Connemara as we thought safe, ferry looks in good shape from the water anyway.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on June 30, 2018, 06:04:17 PM
Great pic.

Thanks, no idea how to post a bigger image, but we got as close as possible to Connemara as we thought safe, ferry looks in good shape from the water anyway.
Nothing wrong with the size - it increases when clicked on ;)
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on July 03, 2018, 07:42:56 AM
Not a fleet movement as such but involves the new Ireland to Spain route

Quote
SPAIN SAILING Gardai and Spanish cops launch crackdown on new ferry route into Ireland being targeted by people traffickers

Extra gardai are being assigned to check vehicles and passports of those arriving in Cork on the Brittany Ferries from Santander

EXCLUSIVE
By Owen Conlon and Ann Mooney
1st July 2018, 8:15 am
GARDAI and Spanish cops have launched a crackdown after learning a new ferry route into Ireland is being targeted by people traffickers.

Extra gardai are being assigned to check vehicles and passports of those arriving in Cork on the Brittany Ferries from Santander.

Meanwhile, officers from the Policia Nacional’s Illegal Immigration Response Brigade (BRIC) are performing similar inspections before departures from the northern Spanish port.

It comes after intelligence indicated the ferry was being viewed as a potential weak link by smugglers of Albanian migrants seeking a back door into the UK through Ireland.

BRIC said it believed an upsurge in trafficker activity at Santander had arrived following the opening of the ferry link to Ireland in early May.

Two Romanian nationals were arrested at the port driving a camper van with nine Albanians wedged into the luggage compartment in recent weeks.

Three other Albanians were also intercepted on a bus trying to pass controls, while two more were found attempting to stow away in the trailer of a Cork-bound lorry.

A senior source in Cork confirmed that gardai and BRIC are in regular contact, adding: “We are currently working with the Spanish authorities and our colleagues in Spain in relation to the illegal immigration issue.

“We have put on additional resources at the port where we are now dealing with four ferry arrivals a week, two from Spain and two from France, a big increase on the previous once a week sailings.”

Last February, gardai arrested six Albanian men who sneaked aboard an Ireland-bound ship in Bilbao when the vessel docked in Fenit, Co Kerry.
https://www.thesun.ie/news/2786646/crackdown-people-traffickers-ferry-ireland/
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Collision-course on July 09, 2018, 01:22:44 AM
Not a fleet movement as such but involves the new Ireland to Spain route

Quote
SPAIN SAILING Gardai and Spanish cops launch crackdown on new ferry route into Ireland being targeted by people traffickers

Extra gardai are being assigned to check vehicles and passports of those arriving in Cork on the Brittany Ferries from Santander

EXCLUSIVE
By Owen Conlon and Ann Mooney
1st July 2018, 8:15 am
GARDAI and Spanish cops have launched a crackdown after learning a new ferry route into Ireland is being targeted by people traffickers.

Extra gardai are being assigned to check vehicles and passports of those arriving in Cork on the Brittany Ferries from Santander.

Meanwhile, officers from the Policia Nacional’s Illegal Immigration Response Brigade (BRIC) are performing similar inspections before departures from the northern Spanish port.

It comes after intelligence indicated the ferry was being viewed as a potential weak link by smugglers of Albanian migrants seeking a back door into the UK through Ireland.

BRIC said it believed an upsurge in trafficker activity at Santander had arrived following the opening of the ferry link to Ireland in early May.

Two Romanian nationals were arrested at the port driving a camper van with nine Albanians wedged into the luggage compartment in recent weeks.

Three other Albanians were also intercepted on a bus trying to pass controls, while two more were found attempting to stow away in the trailer of a Cork-bound lorry.

A senior source in Cork confirmed that gardai and BRIC are in regular contact, adding: “We are currently working with the Spanish authorities and our colleagues in Spain in relation to the illegal immigration issue.

“We have put on additional resources at the port where we are now dealing with four ferry arrivals a week, two from Spain and two from France, a big increase on the previous once a week sailings.”

Last February, gardai arrested six Albanian men who sneaked aboard an Ireland-bound ship in Bilbao when the vessel docked in Fenit, Co Kerry.
https://www.thesun.ie/news/2786646/crackdown-people-traffickers-ferry-ireland/
Funny enough I noticed an increased presence of various state agencies, and the deployment of canine units and mobile scanners for about 10 days in the run up to that story being printed, I suppose these elements will always try it on with a new route to test its limits.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on July 30, 2018, 12:55:54 AM
A passenger was quite shocked when they checked their matress and less than impressed with the crew response.  Surely things like this damage the core BF brand?

http://www.toutsweet.net/2018/07/not-the-latest-tracey-emin-but.php
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Matt73 on July 30, 2018, 07:39:20 PM
A passenger was quite shocked when they checked their matress and less than impressed with the crew response.  Surely things like this damage the core BF brand?

http://www.toutsweet.net/2018/07/not-the-latest-tracey-emin-but.php

The link doesn't seem to work.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on July 30, 2018, 07:56:23 PM
Try

http://www.toutsweet.net/

Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on July 30, 2018, 08:25:35 PM
A passenger was quite shocked when they checked their matress and less than impressed with the crew response.  Surely things like this damage the core BF brand?

http://www.toutsweet.net/2018/07/not-the-latest-tracey-emin-but.php

The link doesn't seem to work.
Must have changed the permalink.  As GG says, just go to the home page.  It’s should still be there :)
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Matt73 on August 03, 2018, 09:22:35 AM
A passenger was quite shocked when they checked their matress and less than impressed with the crew response.  Surely things like this damage the core BF brand?

http://www.toutsweet.net/2018/07/not-the-latest-tracey-emin-but.php

The link doesn't seem to work.
Must have changed the permalink.  As GG says, just go to the home page.  It’s should still be there :)

Thanks!  Found it and it's absolutely disgusting.  I would want a full refund. As you say, very damaging to the brand, not to mention the mattress!

Matt
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on August 15, 2018, 04:27:36 PM
Few photos of Connemara departing Cork harbour for Santander today

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Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: LongTimeReader on August 16, 2018, 10:49:43 AM
Looks fairly empty  :-[
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on August 16, 2018, 10:14:22 PM
Yes, seems to be plenty of space free on the deck space we can see, could still be jammed below decks.

A nice report on this thread on boards.ie

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057830820&page=29


Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on November 03, 2018, 01:52:52 PM
Bretagne made here first visit to Cork in 4 years covering the last trip from Roscoff for this year. Here's a few pics of her arriving earlier

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1912/44971405174_f3f9a62bc1_c.jpg)

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(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4874/45696339481_b4f472c76d_c.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1937/43878246570_a9b2337028_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on November 03, 2018, 09:21:03 PM
Great images, a rare visitor to these shores.

Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Cladyman on November 05, 2018, 01:06:37 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46095038


Further discussion on Brexit impacts.

Interesting times ahead.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Matt73 on November 05, 2018, 03:32:50 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46095038


Further discussion on Brexit impacts.

Interesting times ahead.

Indeed so.  I'm booked to go on the Cap F from Portsmouth to Bilbao in May.  Couldn't give a stuff about Brexit! 

Matt
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on November 05, 2018, 04:47:07 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46095038


Further discussion on Brexit impacts.

Interesting times ahead.
Important to put this in context I feel.  Christophe Mathieu in particular is publicly very anti-brexit and never misses an opportunity to rant about it on twitter for example.  The article notably doesn’t mention that BF have had a problem with people making double bookings and cancelling at the last moment, which they have addressed by requiring a 20% deposit (rather than a flat fee) at the time of booking.  That in itself could conceivably put future bookings down on previous years as people are less likely to book two crossings in advance to cancel one at a later date!  It’s hard to tell how much of this decline is Brexit related and how much is due to other factors - I suspect BF themselves don’t even really know!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Bikermate on November 08, 2018, 12:43:05 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46095038


Further discussion on Brexit impacts.

Interesting times ahead.
Important to put this in context I feel.  Christophe Mathieu in particular is publicly very anti-brexit and never misses an opportunity to rant about it on twitter for example.  The article notably doesn’t mention that BF have had a problem with people making double bookings and cancelling at the last moment, which they have addressed by requiring a 20% deposit (rather than a flat fee) at the time of booking.  That in itself could conceivably put future bookings down on previous years as people are less likely to book two crossings in advance to cancel one at a later date!  It’s hard to tell how much of this decline is Brexit related and how much is due to other factors - I suspect BF themselves don’t even really know!

Steven, If not Brexit what other factors do you reckon are responsible?
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on November 10, 2018, 12:44:26 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46095038


Further discussion on Brexit impacts.

Interesting times ahead.
Important to put this in context I feel.  Christophe Mathieu in particular is publicly very anti-brexit and never misses an opportunity to rant about it on twitter for example.  The article notably doesn’t mention that BF have had a problem with people making double bookings and cancelling at the last moment, which they have addressed by requiring a 20% deposit (rather than a flat fee) at the time of booking.  That in itself could conceivably put future bookings down on previous years as people are less likely to book two crossings in advance to cancel one at a later date!  It’s hard to tell how much of this decline is Brexit related and how much is due to other factors - I suspect BF themselves don’t even really know!

Steven, If not Brexit what other factors do you reckon are responsible?

The aforementioned increase in deposit and resulting reduction in speculative double bookings is bound to have made an impact for a start - 4% isn’t a big enough number that it couldn’t conceivably not be a result of such a policy.  There’s also the fact that BF’s numbers are already in decline on some routes with the Caen route down by 7.4% in 2017 vs 2016 for example (by BF’s own admission).  Portsmouth to Cherbourg was down 9% over summer 2018 according to BF’s latest published figures yet other routes were slightly up.  I don’t see DFDS or P&O complaining to the press about how brexit is killing their business, nor Eurotunnel for that matter!!!  While there may be a bit of a brexit effect I personally feel it’s more likely people are using different travel options (airlines, Dover Strait, Holiday elsewhere than France) and not double booking anymore due to the financial penalty
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Bikermate on November 10, 2018, 09:27:02 AM

The aforementioned increase in deposit and resulting reduction in speculative double bookings is bound to have made an impact for a start - 4% isn’t a big enough number that it couldn’t conceivably not be a result of such a policy.  There’s also the fact that BF’s numbers are already in decline on some routes with the Caen route down by 7.4% in 2017 vs 2016 for example (by BF’s own admission).  Portsmouth to Cherbourg was down 9% over summer 2018 according to BF’s latest published figures yet other routes were slightly up.  I don’t see DFDS or P&O complaining to the press about how brexit is killing their business, nor Eurotunnel for that matter!!!  While there may be a bit of a brexit effect I personally feel it’s more likely people are using different travel options (airlines, Dover Strait, Holiday elsewhere than France) and not double booking anymore due to the financial penalty
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With the introduction of the deposit etc maybe the drop in passengers is only reflecting the true bookings and not an inflated figure due to speculative  bookings previously experienced. Judgement is probably best left until this time next year.
With Brexit there is also the possibility, as Stenaline have stated, of relocating ships to other more direct routes from Ireland to France and Spain.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on November 12, 2018, 10:47:10 PM

The aforementioned increase in deposit and resulting reduction in speculative double bookings is bound to have made an impact for a start - 4% isn’t a big enough number that it couldn’t conceivably not be a result of such a policy.  There’s also the fact that BF’s numbers are already in decline on some routes with the Caen route down by 7.4% in 2017 vs 2016 for example (by BF’s own admission).  Portsmouth to Cherbourg was down 9% over summer 2018 according to BF’s latest published figures yet other routes were slightly up.  I don’t see DFDS or P&O complaining to the press about how brexit is killing their business, nor Eurotunnel for that matter!!!  While there may be a bit of a brexit effect I personally feel it’s more likely people are using different travel options (airlines, Dover Strait, Holiday elsewhere than France) and not double booking anymore due to the financial penalty
With the introduction of the deposit etc maybe the drop in passengers is only reflecting the true bookings and not an inflated figure due to speculative  bookings previously experienced. Judgement is probably best left until this time next year.
With Brexit there is also the possibility, as Stenaline have stated, of relocating ships to other more direct routes from Ireland to France and Spain.
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Important to note Stena have said it’s a possibility but that it’s not something they intend to do at present.

P&O are reporting they’ve had a really strong summer and a good 2018 so far with record breaking passenger numbers on the Calais route in August, while Brittany Ferries appear to be down.  Of course that’s this year not next, but it seems Brittany Ferries are losing business to the competition which could also help explain why forward bookings are down.  Or people may genuinely be being more cautious - it’s impossible to say but there’s definitely more than just Brexit at play.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Cladyman on December 10, 2018, 07:23:38 PM
https://www.eveningecho.ie/corknews/New-winter-ferry-between-Cork-and-Spain-will-allow-hauliers-bypass-UK-over-Brexit-fears-46cfa450-95c9-45a0-96f2-5871beecde96-ds

Some info on updated winter timetable.  Definitely after freight giving both sailings ex Ireland are now 2 nights on the boat!

Hopefully they are getting necessary traction.

This won’t work in summer to get the roscoe sailing in there
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ferryfan on December 11, 2018, 11:35:28 AM
New build Honfleur is due to be launched on Friday leaving space a bit tight on the quayside at FSG.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on December 11, 2018, 08:53:46 PM
A look inside the Honfleur top deck midsection in this article.

https://www.portalmorski.pl/stocznie-statki/41242-nadbudowka-z-gdanskich-firm-trafi-na-nowy-prom-brittany-ferries
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Cladyman on December 18, 2018, 07:56:18 PM
Is there any slack in Brittany ferries fleet for another Irish rotation given that Irish ferries pulling out of Rosslare.

Would probably be best to keep it simple and put one more rod off Cork than launch a service into Cherbourg or definitely rosslare (given costs of a new port).

With Brexit impact in UK and good numbers supposedly for Santander they may see a great window of opportunity. 

Definitely help fill the Monday/Tuesday Connemara which had availability this year given the late release of dates.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on January 01, 2019, 10:26:43 PM
Tomorrow’s sailing of the Connemara has been cancelled,

Cork to Santander - Santander to Cork
Due to technical problems the Connemara sailing on Wednesday 2nd January at 11:00 has been cancelled.
For assistance with your travel arrangements please call 00 353 21 4277801 on Wednesday morning from 09:00. We apologise for the inconvenience this cancellation will cause.

Strangely the Connemara left Ringaskiddy for Santander this evening,  not from the ferry birth but was on the container ship berth. So has sailed empty to Spain.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on January 04, 2019, 08:41:08 PM
Connemara still in Santander with sailing cancelled for technical reasons.

(Not technical enough to prevent it sailing empty to Santander though)
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on January 05, 2019, 12:15:40 AM
Is there any slack in Brittany ferries fleet for another Irish rotation given that Irish ferries pulling out of Rosslare.

Would probably be best to keep it simple and put one more rod off Cork than launch a service into Cherbourg or definitely rosslare (given costs of a new port).

With Brexit impact in UK and good numbers supposedly for Santander they may see a great window of opportunity. 

Definitely help fill the Monday/Tuesday Connemara which had availability this year given the late release of dates.

Any slack is surely going to go towards fulfilling the UK government contract in the event of a no deal, which is the only scenario which an extra sailing would probably be worth there while anyway.  Irish Ferries expect most of their business to follow them to Dublin after all.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ferryfan on February 04, 2019, 11:32:05 AM
Statement from Brittany Ferries regarding FSG says Honfleur will not be delivered on time and that all passengers bookings are being transferred to Normandie copy of statement here.
https://seanews.co.uk/news/brittany-ferries-statement-on-fsg-honfleur-en-fr/
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on March 26, 2019, 07:37:54 PM
BF are taking a third E-Flexer from Stena RoRo.

https://brittanyferriesnewsroom.com/brittany-ferries-confirms-fourth-new-cruise-ferry-post-brexit/?fbclid=IwAR2S10L1ICqEaidsyNkKC4sRdyaFCwF7i3eT7FDF_AJ9lzXpJhGGcS4SgXk
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on March 26, 2019, 07:39:01 PM
https://bfenthusiasts.com/bfe/topic/12246-bf-confirms-fourth-new-ferry-third-e-flexer/
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Cladyman on March 26, 2019, 08:19:48 PM
Interesting debate as regards how this will impact Irish routes. 

IF has opened a door they have ships and time to recover will be interesting to see if they do!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on March 26, 2019, 11:03:23 PM
Not sure this new addition is for Ireland, LNG fueled so could mean first one which is gas ready could be used from Ireland.


More info posted here

https://www.niferry.co.uk/brittany-ferries-announce-order-for-an-additional-stena-e-flexer-ferry/?fbclid=IwAR30m3VGRA9o8cQMnH4BiO8vNsEqGRXRziVEPDh4RlLzEXHTCyrSfHLPqyM
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on April 16, 2019, 08:09:38 PM
Onboard report from Connemara Cork to Roscoff

https://bfenthusiasts.com/bfe/topic/12280-cork-to-roscoff-onboard-connemara/
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on April 21, 2019, 11:35:48 AM
Few pics of Connemara at Roscoff on Tuesday last 16th April

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46933850184_4210ee026d_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46933856914_21764e4a3c_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47605098142_28cc52df60_c.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47657855021_44b5b2fc0b_b.jpg)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/32715311067_034c26b549_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on April 21, 2019, 01:06:40 PM
Nice pictures, someone in BF needs to get a few cans of white paint !
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on April 22, 2019, 09:33:17 AM
Nice pictures, someone in BF needs to get a few cans of white paint !

My beffer half would be of the same opinion as the Connemara came into view she said  "That ships looks a bit scruffy"  ;D   
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Chef on April 22, 2019, 10:11:29 AM
Nice pictures, someone in BF needs to get a few cans of white paint !
The thing is,she is not owned by Brittany Ferries .
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: IFPete on April 22, 2019, 10:17:08 AM
The Brand is important, even epsilon looks well on the outside
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on April 22, 2019, 11:02:08 AM
Nice pictures, someone in BF needs to get a few cans of white paint !
The thing is,she is not owned by Brittany Ferries .

Don’t think Stena RoRo would object to someone painting and maintaining their vessel,
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Chef on April 22, 2019, 03:30:57 PM
The crew are  not Brittany  Ferries employees either ,  so probably the reason for the not so Brittany Ferries standard of hull maintenance .
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on April 22, 2019, 09:24:53 PM
True, crew provided by Northern Marine as far as I know. Pity they don’t have time to care for the ships appearance.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Chef on April 23, 2019, 04:05:27 PM
I am sure it has not escaped someone's eye considering that Brittany Ferries HQ is in Roscoff . The Connemara represents their brand weather or not they own it .
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on May 04, 2019, 08:33:50 AM
Nice pictures, someone in BF needs to get a few cans of white paint !
The thing is,she is not owned by Brittany Ferries .

Don’t think Stena RoRo would object to someone painting and maintaining their vessel,
Depends on what the charter agreement says.  In any case Brittany Ferries might not be too keen on the idea of spending money they don’t have to on a vessel they don’t own and may decide to dispose of in a year or two. 

I am sure it has not escaped someone's eye considering that Brittany Ferries HQ is in Roscoff . The Connemara represents their brand weather or not they own it .
In the grand scheme of things I doubt may potential customers even notice!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ferryfan on May 04, 2019, 01:25:49 PM
Article from ferry shipping news re FSG and Honfleur:

"All Hands On Deck For HONFLEUR

As part of the process to reorganise the Flensburg-based shipyard, FSG has been in negotiations with customers and suppliers since the beginning of the year. Several measures have been implemented in order to successfully achieve this target.

The ro-pax ferry for Brittany Ferries is in the process of intensive outfitting. For optimal progress of this vessel –HONFLEUR–, it was necessary to postpone the start of the production of newbuilding no. 781, the eighth ro-ro vessel for Siem.

This has led to a partial and temporary underemployment in one part of the production. For this reason, the Company’s management and Works Council have agreed to apply to the Labour Employment Agency for short-time work in this area.

The application has already been submitted. The effects on the affected area are being kept to a minimum. The majority of the affected employees will be able to bridge this period either by reducing overtime hours previously worked or will be temporarily employed in other areas of production."

This could lead to knock on delays which could affect the start of construcion of hull 777 .
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: IFPete on May 04, 2019, 01:44:27 PM
That could also mean build 777 beginning as soon as Honfleur nears completion and 781 following her in construction.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on May 13, 2019, 10:07:38 PM
Pont Aven has left Brest ready to return to service, couple of changes to schedule, main one being Portsmouth sailings now depart from Plymouth to shorten the crossing distance as service speed is reduced due to operational reasons of only three engines available.


https://brittanyferriesnewsroom.com/pont-aven-will-resume-service-on-14-may/
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on May 17, 2019, 01:39:37 AM
That could also mean build 777 beginning as soon as Honfleur nears completion and 781 following her in construction.
I wouldn't hold your breath on that.  Reports from Germany indicate work on the second IF newbuild is behind schedule.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: IFPete on May 17, 2019, 01:40:36 PM
It looks like all the focus is on completing Honfleur as soon as they can to avoid penalties.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Chef on May 17, 2019, 04:00:58 PM
Pont Aven off the schedule again and heading back to Brest ( rudder problem ) Armorique for Cork again this weekend .
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on May 24, 2019, 10:05:13 PM
Pont Aven still off service

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/1500-passengers-hit-as-ferry-sailings-cancelled-926422.html (https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/1500-passengers-hit-as-ferry-sailings-cancelled-926422.html)

https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Travel-chief-says-passengers-must-be-looked-after-following-ferry-cancellations-db327c9f-2938-4a68-bc9a-1bd361e765e7-ds (https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Travel-chief-says-passengers-must-be-looked-after-following-ferry-cancellations-db327c9f-2938-4a68-bc9a-1bd361e765e7-ds)
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Cladyman on May 24, 2019, 10:13:45 PM
No sailings scheduled for next weekend either on Cork Roscoff.  Bit of pain for those scheduling to start holiday of with BH weekend.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on May 24, 2019, 10:59:19 PM
No sailings scheduled for next weekend either on Cork Roscoff.  Bit of pain for those scheduling to start holiday of with BH weekend.

Is the Conamera doing an extra Roscoff run?
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: DaveW1946 on May 25, 2019, 04:41:44 PM
Connemara doing two runs this weekend (Cork-Roscoff). We were due on Pont Aven on Friday and offer first trip home (1800 Saturday arr. 0600 Sunday). Took a refund and travel Irish Ferries on the boat we vowed never to travel after IF's abandonment of Rosslare.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Cladyman on May 26, 2019, 08:07:32 PM
Looks like squeezing in 3 back to back returns to make up for the lost Pont Aven and it’s own sailing to Santander (guessing they give customers this option)

Today’s sailing due to land at 2am and if they are to hit the 10pm Monday night Ex Cork would need to leave by 6am

Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on May 29, 2019, 01:32:44 PM
Pont Aven off service til 14th June

(https://www.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/6500-customers-disrupted-as-brittany-ferries-cancels-irish-sailings-38159820.html)
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: DaveW1946 on May 30, 2019, 06:03:21 AM
We were due on Cork-Roscoff on 8 June and were offered Connemara either 2230 on 7/6 or 0830 on 9/6. Neither suited and we were lucky to get on W B Yeats on 10/6. This is our second cancellation with Brittany in as many weeks.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Trucker on May 31, 2019, 09:17:09 PM
I just posted on Discussion Board about this.
Affecting people In Ireland and France at the moment.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: marsav68 on June 14, 2019, 10:33:08 AM
Pont Aven has left Brest this morning and heading for Roscoff.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ferryfan on June 21, 2019, 11:59:45 AM
Brittany Ferries announced a one charter of a vissenti ship from Stena ro/ro the vessel is believed to be the AF Michela the former Stena Egeria. The charter is from November 2019 to November 2020 and is to provide cover for Pont Aven which will be out of service for 10 weeks due to an engine replacement  and "in case FSG do not deliver the Honfleur on time.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on June 21, 2019, 03:41:21 PM
Brittany Ferries announced a one charter of a vissenti ship from Stena ro/ro the vessel is believed to be the AF Michela the former Stena Egeria. The charter is from November 2019 to November 2020 and is to provide cover for Pont Aven which will be out of service for 10 weeks due to an engine replacement  and "in case FSG do not deliver the Honfleur on time.
FSG won't be delivering Honfleur on time as that time has come and gone already!  So far as I am aware they have not yet announced a revised delivery date as of yet.  The Brittany Ferries press release doesn't exactly inspire confidence mind.  All of this means Cork - Spain has got at least 6 months extension from the initial 2-year trial. 

https://brittanyferriesnewsroom.com/new-ship-charter-will-secure-2020-season-schedules-says-brittany-ferries/

Connemara will be replaced by AF Michela and move to the French flag to provide additional redundancy on the core UK to France and Spain routes. 

https://www.niferry.co.uk/brittany-ferries-to-replace-cork-to-spain-ferry/
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: IFPete on June 21, 2019, 09:06:31 PM
Honfleur appears to be suffering the same delays that WB Yeats suffered.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Chef on June 21, 2019, 10:51:44 PM
Honfleur appears to be suffering the same delays that WB Yeats suffered.
Do you mean the pieces don't match up .
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: IFPete on June 22, 2019, 11:46:05 AM
especially the new fuel system.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on June 22, 2019, 06:48:14 PM
Honfleur appears to be suffering the same delays that WB Yeats suffered.
especially the new fuel system.

Her fuel system is totally different!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Chef on June 23, 2019, 12:19:53 PM
Whereas the ship is new,  the fuel system itself is not and has been around for some time . What IFPete maybe referring to is that it is the first time that FSG have installed such a system .
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on June 23, 2019, 10:24:12 PM
Whereas the ship is new,  the fuel system itself is not and has been around for some time . What IFPete maybe referring to is that it is the first time that FSG have installed such a system .

How does that make it the same problem as W.B. YEATS which has a totally different fuel system though? 

The main issue with HONFLEUR appears to be down to the fact that suppliers weren't getting paid and that workers have left.  TT Tasmania now expect late delivery and are talking to other yards according to reports from Australia.  Brittany Ferries are so confident about the delivery of HONFLEUR they have chartered in another vessel (see below)!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on June 23, 2019, 10:31:20 PM
Brittany Ferries announced a one charter of a vissenti ship from Stena ro/ro the vessel is believed to be the AF Michela the former Stena Egeria. The charter is from November 2019 to November 2020 and is to provide cover for Pont Aven which will be out of service for 10 weeks due to an engine replacement  and "in case FSG do not deliver the Honfleur on time.
FSG won't be delivering Honfleur on time as that time has come and gone already!  So far as I am aware they have not yet announced a revised delivery date as of yet.  The Brittany Ferries press release doesn't exactly inspire confidence mind.  All of this means Cork - Spain has got at least 6 months extension from the initial 2-year trial. 

https://brittanyferriesnewsroom.com/new-ship-charter-will-secure-2020-season-schedules-says-brittany-ferries/

Connemara will be replaced by AF Michela and move to the French flag to provide additional redundancy on the core UK to France and Spain routes. 

https://www.niferry.co.uk/brittany-ferries-to-replace-cork-to-spain-ferry/

AF MICHELA is of course the much troubled former HOA SEN which was discussed on this very forum a few years back after she was acquired by Stena

https://www.irish-ferries-enthusiasts.com/forum/the-news-board/stena-line-fleet-movements/1322/

Thankfully the Stena RoRo refit (more of a rebuild) appears to have been thorough with no reoccurrence of the previous structural problems.  Although she has a passenger certificate for 1000 from memory she only has about 400 berths.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Chef on June 24, 2019, 06:42:42 AM
Whereas the ship is new,  the fuel system itself is not and has been around for some time . What IFPete maybe referring to is that it is the first time that FSG have installed such a system .
Whereas the ship is new,  the fuel system itself is not and has been around for some time . What IFPete maybe referring to is that it is the first time that FSG have installed such a system .

How does that make it the same problem as W.B. YEATS which has a totally different fuel system though? 

The main issue with HONFLEUR appears to be down to the fact that suppliers weren't getting paid and that workers have left.  TT Tasmania now expect late delivery and are talking to other yards according to reports from Australia.  Brittany Ferries are so confident about the delivery of HONFLEUR they have chartered in another vessel (see below)!
A delay none the less just like Yeats regardless of the reasons .
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on June 25, 2019, 02:19:27 AM
Whereas the ship is new,  the fuel system itself is not and has been around for some time . What IFPete maybe referring to is that it is the first time that FSG have installed such a system .
Whereas the ship is new,  the fuel system itself is not and has been around for some time . What IFPete maybe referring to is that it is the first time that FSG have installed such a system .

How does that make it the same problem as W.B. YEATS which has a totally different fuel system though? 

The main issue with HONFLEUR appears to be down to the fact that suppliers weren't getting paid and that workers have left.  TT Tasmania now expect late delivery and are talking to other yards according to reports from Australia.  Brittany Ferries are so confident about the delivery of HONFLEUR they have chartered in another vessel (see below)!
A delay none the less just like Yeats regardless of the reasons .
Whatever

Moving on, it appears AF MICHELA's current passenger certificate is only for 350 (according to RINA) despite the claim of 1000 on the Adria Ferries site.

https://www.adriaferries.com/en/navi-5/af-michela-en-en.html

With her 70 x 4 berth cabins and 'dormitories' she doesn't sound too luxurious!  Who knows what BF and RoRo have planned mind but with facilities that total a restaurant, a couple of bars, and a shop there doesn't seem much to do on a 28 hour voyage (except eat and drink)!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: IFPete on June 26, 2019, 06:56:34 PM
FSG have never built a ship to meet the safety requirements of LNG before,

The ship looks unoccupied with work progressing on the two Siem ships.

I guess TT line are panicing , Irish Ferries are saying nothing.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on June 26, 2019, 08:06:16 PM
With her 70 x 4 berth cabins and 'dormitories' she doesn't sound too luxurious!  Who knows what BF and RoRo have planned mind but with facilities that total a restaurant, a couple of bars, and a shop there doesn't seem much to do on a 28 hour voyage (except eat and drink)!

Sleep?  ;D
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: hhvferry on June 27, 2019, 05:53:22 PM
I guess TT line are panicing , Irish Ferries are saying nothing.
I doubt anyone is panicking. Spirit of Tasmania can keep their existing pretty modern ships running as long as they need to.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: IFPete on June 27, 2019, 07:45:03 PM
My guess they will wait for the ferries to come in 2022 or beyond.

Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: IFPete on June 29, 2019, 11:00:12 AM
Honfleur now delayed until spring 2020 and next three orders will not start without local goverment funding.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on July 08, 2019, 08:59:17 PM
"Brittany Ferries has today confirmed names for its next ships. Kerry will be the name for the one-year charter vessel arriving in November 2019. As previously announced, this ship will cover the Cork to Santander route from November 2019 to November 2020".

https://brittanyferriesnewsroom.com/brittany-ferries-names-new-ships-and-promises-significant-co2-savings-from-fleet-renewal-plans/ (https://brittanyferriesnewsroom.com/brittany-ferries-names-new-ships-and-promises-significant-co2-savings-from-fleet-renewal-plans/)
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on July 08, 2019, 10:56:35 PM
FSG have never built a ship to meet the safety requirements of LNG before,

The ship looks unoccupied with work progressing on the two Siem ships.

I guess TT line are panicing , Irish Ferries are saying nothing.
This isn't the first ship they've built fuelled by LNG!

TT Line Pty are already known to be speaking to other yards.  I doubt Irish Ferries would have much chance of getting a vessel to that specification at that price elsewhere.  Timeline for delivery has already slipped to "late 2020"
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on July 08, 2019, 11:08:14 PM
Honfleur now delayed until spring 2020 and next three orders will not start without local goverment funding.
Problem is, the local government say they can't justify putting more money into the yard having already put in some €400m in recent years with the yard now making more losses than ever (€111m last year alone!).  I guess they also have to justify where they are spending peoples taxes (there's also state aid rules as well to stay on the right side of), especially when a lot of the work isn't even taking place in Germany.  At least some of the more recent builds have been financed by loans from Siem rather than from the local government.  Siem seem to be basically righting off their investment in the yard now though.  According to Siem's annual report and accounts the investment by the vehicle led by Lars Windhorst was €33m for 76% of the company (slightly less money for 1% more of the company than reported elsewhere).  The next few months look like they will be crucial for the yard.

Work on HONFLEUR has been progressing according to a friend who was at the yard a few days ago.  Just because you can't see anyone doesn't mean something isn't being done!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on August 16, 2019, 09:26:12 PM
Few pics of Connemara arriving in Cork harbour earlier this evening

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Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on August 16, 2019, 09:59:48 PM
Nice images, looking good although does not look to be too busy.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on August 26, 2019, 01:58:02 PM
Nice images, looking good although does not look to be too busy.
Alas it appears she hasn’t been.  She’s effectively being replaced with a smaller ship in terms of freight as well.  Still, the Spain service is young and at least BF have committed to a (brief) extension to the trial.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on September 14, 2019, 10:53:35 AM
Connemara sailings cancelled this weekend and currently up at Marino Point, with Tug Gerry O’Sullivan in attendance. Would have been stunning images passing Passage West with a ferry of that size, would not fancy being the pilot in the river without full power available !
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on September 15, 2019, 08:15:29 PM
Few from earlier this evening of Connemara alongside at Marino Point

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Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on September 15, 2019, 10:51:26 PM
Thanks for getting the images, just looks so strange to see the Connemara so far upriver, ( I know that’s a deep water berth) but strange setting to see a modern ferry berthed at.

Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on September 16, 2019, 12:35:07 AM
Nice images, looking good although does not look to be too busy.
Alas it appears she hasn’t been.  She’s effectively being replaced with a smaller ship in terms of freight as well.  Still, the Spain service is young and at least BF have committed to a (brief) extension to the trial.
On this, as posted elsewhere, Brittany Ferries have nothing on sale for Cork after November 4th!  Less than 2 months away.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on October 02, 2019, 03:18:49 PM
Cork to Santander sailings til April 2020 now bookable by phone. Online bookings for full 2020 schedule by late October.

https://www.brittanyferries.ie/ferry-routes/2020-sailings-on-sale-now?utm_campaign=506OIRL-4119&utm_source=emailCampaign&utm_content=&utm_medium=email (https://www.brittanyferries.ie/ferry-routes/2020-sailings-on-sale-now?utm_campaign=506OIRL-4119&utm_source=emailCampaign&utm_content=&utm_medium=email)
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: 12345teacher on October 02, 2019, 04:26:16 PM
just booked return  from .. cork to santander ..car +2+cabin...sailing on the kerry...for april easter week ... 2020.. €653 return ...
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on October 02, 2019, 10:22:00 PM
just booked return from  cork to santander sailing on the kerry...for april 2020 €653 return ...

Good news, AF Michela (former Stena Egeria) is currently being refitted to become Kerry in Rijeka, berthed alongside (is the former Dublin -Holyhead ferry Stena Forwarder) the AF Claudia.

Images of the Kerry in its previous lives

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?search_imo=9243447
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on October 04, 2019, 01:58:21 AM
Cork to Santander sailings til April 2020 now bookable by phone. Online bookings for full 2020 schedule by late October.

https://www.brittanyferries.ie/ferry-routes/2020-sailings-on-sale-now?utm_campaign=506OIRL-4119&utm_source=emailCampaign&utm_content=&utm_medium=email (https://www.brittanyferries.ie/ferry-routes/2020-sailings-on-sale-now?utm_campaign=506OIRL-4119&utm_source=emailCampaign&utm_content=&utm_medium=email)
Interestingly the few sailings past October that were bookable online now aren't!  Strange to withhold online booking so close to the actual date but good news they are at least taking telephone bookings now!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ferryfan on October 04, 2019, 11:11:09 AM
Is the Michela (Kerry) a bit of a backyard step for the route, she is an older smaller ship with less capacity in lane metres and less cabins.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: 12345teacher on October 04, 2019, 06:06:34 PM
I have a booking going out on Friday 25 th October to Santander and returning on Sunday the 3rd November Santander to cork this return date is no longer advertised on Brittany ferries web site...i rang Brittany ferries and queried this and was told sailing was still going....but looking at last few weeks there track record cork /Santander is not good ...but i hope I’m wrong ...
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on October 04, 2019, 10:58:38 PM
I have a booking going out on Friday 25 th October to Santander and returning on Sunday the 3rd November Santander to cork this return date is no longer advertised on Brittany ferries web site...i rang Brittany ferries and queried this and was told sailing was still going....but looking at last few weeks there track record cork /Santander is not good ...but i hope I’m wrong ...

It’s odd but that sailing was previously on the online booking engine but was pulled off.  They are taking bookings for it over the phone though.  Perhaps when the U.K. summer timetable is launched in the middle of this month they will add Cork past the end of October back to the online booking engine.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Cladyman on October 06, 2019, 01:31:27 PM
Why does Brittany ferries serve both Bilbao and Santander

They are only 1hr drive apart, given 24+hr sailings doesn’t make sense to me.  And given frequency not that high in surely can’t be capacity?
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: TC on October 08, 2019, 09:08:32 PM
Why does Brittany ferries serve both Bilbao and Santander

They are only 1hr drive apart, given 24+hr sailings doesn’t make sense to me.  And given frequency not that high in surely can’t be capacity?

Brittany Ferries really only took on Bilbao because of P&O's decision to return the Pride of Bilbao to Irish Ferries, whom they had chartered her from since the very early 1990s.  P&O put their decision down to running costs associated with their Bilbao - Portsmouth service.  I imagine that translated as (i) fuel costs / efficiency, & (ii) low freight capacity of the vessel.

The P&O service did prove highly popular, so Brittany Ferries simply moved in with the Cap Finistere.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on October 09, 2019, 10:32:06 AM
Brittany Ferries Kerry is on the way to Gibraltar  (ais search for AF Michela still) currently off the Italian coast near Bari.

Due 13th October presumably for bunkers.

Will be interesting to see what livery has been applied

Previous images of Hoa Sen/ Stena Egeria/ AF Michela

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?search_imo=9243447
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on October 09, 2019, 05:31:58 PM
Brittany Ferries Kerry is on the way to Gibraltar  (ais search for AF Michela still) currently off the Italian coast near Bari.

Due 13th October presumably for bunkers.

Will be interesting to see what livery has been applied

Previous images of Hoa Sen/ Stena Egeria/ AF Michela

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?search_imo=9243447
I believe the yard at Rijeka was only used for the handover back to Stena RoRo and Northern Marine.  In terms of livery I expect it will be basic given she is on a one year charter.  There have been suggestions that she isn’t in great condition internally after her stint with Adria, so perhaps some refurbishment might be undertaken.  Plenty of time to do so in any case!
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: 12345teacher on October 12, 2019, 06:43:56 AM
Connemara late in for Spain to cork last night...and it’s 22.30 sailing to Spain was cancelled ...
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on October 13, 2019, 01:47:26 PM
Image of the Kerry in Gibraltar this morning at end of page on link below.

https://bfenthusiasts.com/bfe/topic/12445-bf-charters-a-new-ship/page/2/

New logo and branding have been applied.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on October 15, 2019, 08:26:06 AM
Image of the Kerry in Gibraltar this morning at end of page on link below.

https://bfenthusiasts.com/bfe/topic/12445-bf-charters-a-new-ship/page/2/

New logo and branding have been applied.
Also a couple of images here https://www.niferry.co.uk/latest-brittany-ferries-ship-on-way-santander/ .  Clearly they’ve just removed the branding from the hull and funnel and added the Brittany Ferries logo - about all we can expect for a one year charter. 
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: giftgrub on October 15, 2019, 08:39:53 AM
Image of the Kerry in Gibraltar this morning at end of page on link below.

https://bfenthusiasts.com/bfe/topic/12445-bf-charters-a-new-ship/page/2/

New logo and branding have been applied.
Also a couple of images here https://www.niferry.co.uk/latest-brittany-ferries-ship-on-way-santander/ .  Clearly they’ve just removed the branding from the hull and funnel and added the Brittany Ferries logo - about all we can expect for a one year charter.

Sure looks like that, would imagine it will need to arrive early in Cork as authorities probably want to carry out an inspection before it enters service, Connemara was delayed a few days by this, though assuming crew from Connemara are probably transferring over, might be easier to manage.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on October 16, 2019, 12:30:31 AM
Image of the Kerry in Gibraltar this morning at end of page on link below.

https://bfenthusiasts.com/bfe/topic/12445-bf-charters-a-new-ship/page/2/

New logo and branding have been applied.
Also a couple of images here https://www.niferry.co.uk/latest-brittany-ferries-ship-on-way-santander/ .  Clearly they’ve just removed the branding from the hull and funnel and added the Brittany Ferries logo - about all we can expect for a one year charter.

Sure looks like that, would imagine it will need to arrive early in Cork as authorities probably want to carry out an inspection before it enters service, Connemara was delayed a few days by this, though assuming crew from Connemara are probably transferring over, might be easier to manage.
There are Stena crew already onboard KERRY so probably won't be all of them transferring from CONNEMARA.  If KERRY comes into service at the start of November there's still a full 2 weeks from today.  Contrary to what I posted earlier there was some additional technical work done at Rijeka.  I believe KERRY will run with scrubbers btw, with some work still needed to be done at Santander (though I don't think this will require a dry dock).  CONNEMARA is expected to dry dock from the 31st Oct until November 13th (at Santander) according to the guys over at BF Enthusiasts.  She had previously been on the schedule until Nov 4th of course.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Chef on October 16, 2019, 10:58:14 AM
Whey would there be Stena crew on board . This is  Brittany Ferries  operation .
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: RorieLen on October 16, 2019, 02:01:51 PM
Whey would there be Stena crew on board . This is  Brittany Ferries  operation .

I think Steven probably means Northern Marine Management crew. The ship is Stena RoRo owned and crewed by NMM which is a Stena group company.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Chef on October 16, 2019, 02:23:14 PM
Whey would there be Stena crew on board . This is  Brittany Ferries  operation .

I think Steven probably means Northern Marine Management crew. The ship is Stena RoRo owned and crewed by NMM which is a Stena group company.
Thank you
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: 12345teacher on October 21, 2019, 04:05:50 PM
just got email from Brittany ferries about my return  from santander to cork...on 3 rd november connemara will now be replaced by the kerry...
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Cladyman on October 21, 2019, 07:26:59 PM
just got email from Brittany ferries about my return  from santander to cork...on 3 rd november connemara will now be replaced by the kerry...

Hope it sails for you.  I see still not selling tickets online.

You will be able to give the verdict on comparing the Connemara and Kerry :-).
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: 12345teacher on October 21, 2019, 07:32:18 PM
Yes i hope so as well....sailings last few weeks were hit and miss....i believe the online bookings for summer 2020 are open on Wednesday 23/10/19.... I’ll take photos of both ships and upload when home...
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on October 21, 2019, 09:42:16 PM
Yes i hope so as well....sailings last few weeks were hit and miss....i believe the online bookings for summer 2020 are open on Wednesday 23/10/19.... I’ll take photos of both ships and upload when home...

Speaking of 2020 bookings I've booked Cork Roscoff last week out Monday 30th June on Kerry and back Friday 10th July on Pont Aven. There's been a big increase in the deposit. Had to pay 50% non refundable deposit  :(
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Steven on October 23, 2019, 02:39:49 PM
Yes i hope so as well....sailings last few weeks were hit and miss....i believe the online bookings for summer 2020 are open on Wednesday 23/10/19.... I’ll take photos of both ships and upload when home...

Speaking of 2020 bookings I've booked Cork Roscoff last week out Monday 30th June on Kerry and back Friday 10th July on Pont Aven. There's been a big increase in the deposit. Had to pay 50% non refundable deposit  :(
Seems they are still having big problems with speculative bookings.  People booking multiple trips only to cancel this they don't want at a later date.  Its been a big issue for them historically I believe.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on October 23, 2019, 07:55:19 PM
Yes i hope so as well....sailings last few weeks were hit and miss....i believe the online bookings for summer 2020 are open on Wednesday 23/10/19.... I’ll take photos of both ships and upload when home...

Speaking of 2020 bookings I've booked Cork Roscoff last week out Monday 30th June on Kerry and back Friday 10th July on Pont Aven. There's been a big increase in the deposit. Had to pay 50% non refundable deposit  :(
Seems they are still having big problems with speculative bookings.  People booking multiple trips only to cancel this they don't want at a later date.  Its been a big issue for them historically I believe.

You mean that people were making a few bookings and were were prepared to lie the loss on those they eventually decided not to use?
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: 12345teacher on October 25, 2019, 02:30:31 PM
Update on 22:30 sailing :
 Due to adverse weather conditions at sea your sailing to Santander tonight at 2230 has been delayed.Check in time remains the same as normal.Check in desks open at 2000. Latest check in is 2200 when gates close. Once embarcation completed the ship door will close and will move off the berth and be used as a floating hotel until the ship departs early on Saturday morning for Santander. There is No check in on Saturday. ETA in Santander is Sunday 27/10 at 1730. If you need further information contact 00 353 21 4277801 or 00 44 1752 645726. Apologies for any inconvenience.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: 12345teacher on October 25, 2019, 10:48:18 PM
Delayed departure off Connemara on 25/10/2019, lot of units travelling
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: 12345teacher on October 25, 2019, 10:51:35 PM
Connemara 25/10/2019
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: 12345teacher on October 25, 2019, 10:55:06 PM
Connemara 25/10/19
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on October 26, 2019, 12:11:50 PM
Did she spend the night on the deep water berth in Ringa?
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Cladyman on October 27, 2019, 03:47:23 PM
Just getting into Santander be glad to be getting off !
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ferryfan on October 29, 2019, 12:47:08 PM
Just getting into Santander be glad to be getting off !
Are you glad to be getting off because of a bad crossing or just the time spent onboard?
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on November 01, 2019, 06:58:05 PM
Kerry due to arrive at Ringaskiddy at 8.30pm this evening after her first trip from Santandar.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: 12345teacher on November 01, 2019, 07:37:08 PM
Kerry cancelled on Sunday 3/11/19.... we being re routed via Portsmouth/Holyhead...not a good start for Kerry ..
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Cladyman on November 01, 2019, 08:04:01 PM
Can’t blame ship this time as I see uk Spain sailing cancelled due to weather too.

Like others on here was interested to hear how you got on, will have to wait.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on November 02, 2019, 01:18:58 PM
Kerry berthed at Marino Point. Expected to resume service with the Monday night sailing to Santandar.
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: DaveW1946 on November 03, 2019, 06:12:47 AM
Had text & emails fro BF Thursday afternoon to say Pont Aven sailing 1500 Friday (not 2030). Did some quick last minute shopping, and checked out of holiday accommodation early Friday. En route more info from BF to say now sailing even earlier and we did at 1400 French time. Not too bad a crossing as we ran ahead of the storm. A bit bumpy up until midnight, but docked in Ringaskiddy at 0230. We got a good night's sleep as embarkation didn't start until 0800. Home early. Didn't notice until later that those on IF Epsilon not so lucky. She sailed at 1630 Friday but anchored of Sidmouth until 0800 Saturday and not expected Dublin until 0800 on Sunday.





Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: ccs on November 03, 2019, 08:10:20 PM
Few pics from earlier of Kerry at Marino Point

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Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Chef on November 03, 2019, 11:57:24 PM
Very nice , makes the view across the river better as well .
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: 12345teacher on November 04, 2019, 09:50:29 AM
Great photos of Kerry ...just got txt saying pont aven is delayed on way to Santander...so that’s a 27 hour delay for us as we were due out on Kerry yesterday 3/11/19..
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: A83 on November 04, 2019, 03:58:15 PM
Had text & emails fro BF Thursday afternoon to say Pont Aven sailing 1500 Friday (not 2030). Did some quick last minute shopping, and checked out of holiday accommodation early Friday. En route more info from BF to say now sailing even earlier and we did at 1400 French time. Not too bad a crossing as we ran ahead of the storm. A bit bumpy up until midnight, but docked in Ringaskiddy at 0230. We got a good night's sleep as embarkation didn't start until 0800. Home early. Didn't notice until later that those on IF Epsilon not so lucky. She sailed at 1630 Friday but anchored of Sidmouth until 0800 Saturday and not expected Dublin until 0800 on Sunday.

Different approaches to tackling the oncoming storm. What factors drive these decisions and who makes them? The Master of the ship or the company?
Title: Re: Brittany Ferries fleet movements
Post by: Kieran on November 04, 2019, 05:23:02 PM
Different approaches to tackling the oncoming storm. What factors drive these decisions and who makes them? The Master of the ship or the company?

It's the Captain that would make the decision, that was made clear by the investigation into Epsilon's bumpy crossing in 2016.

Full report for that is here (https://www.mcib.ie/_fileupload/Documents/Reports/mcib-258-mv-epsilon/2018-11-29-02-56-Epsilon%207-18_Redacted%20%20for%20the%20website%2028%20Nov.pdf).