FSG Shipyard

Started by giftgrub, February 12, 2019, 08:31:59 PM

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IFPete

Given the investment in Project 777. ICG is a significant stakeholder if the yard is to avoid liquidation.

I am sure any equipment ordered could be delivered to another yard and the drawings etc could be deemed ICG property.

I doubt Brittany Ferries will need Honfeur before Summer 2021.


Kieran

Quote from: IFPete on April 26, 2020, 12:56:15 PM
I am sure any equipment ordered could be delivered to another yard and the drawings etc could be deemed ICG property.

I don't think any equipment would be ICG's property until after acceptance, I'm not sure where they would stand with the drawings/plans. Depends on how the insolvency proceedings go...

Niall

Would any company want to buy the yard at this stage?

Chef

#33
Quote from: geopm on April 26, 2020, 11:26:00 AM
Not so simple!  IF have paid €30m to FSG and they are unlikely to be able to recover much of that if they go elsewhere.
Once bitten twice shy as they say , ICG won't want to see another chunk of money disappearing if they decide to go with FSG , hence they will be looking for bonded guarantees from the local government to protect their investment if the yard even gets back up and running . Failing that it's cut your losses, by by FSG and go elsewhere . ICG are in no hurry for a new build since the Covid crisis and there is no shortage of tonnage in the market at present or the future hence there will be some great chartering deals to be had rather than risking a bunch of cash on a new build .

IFPete

#34
There has been no comment in the media from ICG. In Germany the Insolvency process in volentry unlike a liquidation in UK and Ireland.

Brittany Ferries , ICG and Local Goverment are three key stakeholders here.

I would imagine it would be in everybodies interests that Honfluer is completed and paid for per contract.

If the yard wants to move in another direction they still have to settle up with ICG before that can happen.

The Yard is strong on construction and very poor on completion of complex interiors.

They might have a future focusing on their strengths and partnering with Marine Fitout Specialists for Interior completion on future projects.

I would imagine local goverment will not want the yard to close from a jobs perspective in a small provincial town,   

ferryfan

Quote from: Chef on April 27, 2020, 06:56:02 AM
Quote from: geopm on April 26, 2020, 11:26:00 AM
Not so simple!  IF have paid €30m to FSG and they are unlikely to be able to recover much of that if they go elsewhere.
Once bitten twice shy as they say , ICL won't want to see another chunk of money disappearing if they decide to go with FSG , hence they will be looking for bonded guarantees from the local government to protect their investment if the yard even gets back up and running . Failing that it's cut your losses, by by FSG and go elsewhere . ICL are in no hurry for a new build since the Covid crisis and there is no shortage of tonnage in the market at present or the future hence there will be some great chartering deals to be had rather than risking a bunch of cash on a new build .

ICL make fertiliser

ferryfan

No decisions will be made by anyone until the appointed examiner completes their work (least that's how it works here)

Niall

Quote from: ferryfan on April 27, 2020, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: Chef on April 27, 2020, 06:56:02 AM
Quote from: geopm on April 26, 2020, 11:26:00 AM
Not so simple!  IF have paid €30m to FSG and they are unlikely to be able to recover much of that if they go elsewhere.
Once bitten twice shy as they say , ICL won't want to see another chunk of money disappearing if they decide to go with FSG , hence they will be looking for bonded guarantees from the local government to protect their investment if the yard even gets back up and running . Failing that it's cut your losses, by by FSG and go elsewhere . ICL are in no hurry for a new build since the Covid crisis and there is no shortage of tonnage in the market at present or the future hence there will be some great chartering deals to be had rather than risking a bunch of cash on a new build .

ICL make fertiliser

He meant ICG. ICL was also a name for Irish Continental Line

Chef

Quote from: Niall on April 27, 2020, 06:01:44 PM
Quote from: ferryfan on April 27, 2020, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: Chef on April 27, 2020, 06:56:02 AM
Quote from: geopm on April 26, 2020, 11:26:00 AM
Not so simple!  IF have paid €30m to FSG and they are unlikely to be able to recover much of that if they go elsewhere.
Once bitten twice shy as they say , ICL won't want to see another chunk of money disappearing if they decide to go with FSG , hence they will be looking for bonded guarantees from the local government to protect their investment if the yard even gets back up and running . Failing that it's cut your losses, by by FSG and go elsewhere . ICL are in no hurry for a new build since the Covid crisis and there is no shortage of tonnage in the market at present or the future hence there will be some great chartering deals to be had rather than risking a bunch of cash on a new build .

ICL make fertiliser

He meant ICG. ICL was also a name for Irish Continental Line
An old habit or showing my age , I've always referred to Irish Ferries as Irish Continental Line .

ferryfan

I knew what you meant "Chef" am of a similar vintage.

Chef

At least I can still remember when Irish Ferries had their dry docking in Verlome  Cork Dockyard in Cobh .

Davy Jones

I notice the webcam in the building hall is back on.

http://31.209.185.103/view/viewer_index.shtml?id=125901

Looks like a build is being started.

Chef

Quote from: Davy Jones on December 22, 2021, 12:34:26 AM
I notice the webcam in the building hall is back on.

http://31.209.185.103/view/viewer_index.shtml?id=125901

Looks like a build is being started.
Nice to see that back , thanks for posting .

IFPete

Good to see the construction hall busy again,

Chef

I can see a few familiar faces in the building hall and my favourite gantry crane operator  ;D