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The News Board / Re: W.B.YEATS DELIVERY IS DELAYED
« Last post by The insider on Today at 12:54:16 PM »
Rumours  going  around  that Yeats is way off completion. ..someone  got all the measurements  for the accommodation  all mixed ...and it's up to a meter off
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The News Board / Re: Irish Ferries Fleet movements
« Last post by Steven on July 19, 2018, 03:25:04 PM »
Was just reading an article from “The Phoenix” which someone kindly shared about Eamonn Rothwell.  The gist is questions are being asked about the decision making at the top.  In particular not only the decision to bring Yeats into service in July and take bookings before it was clear the vessel would be ready without any contingency plan, but also the decision to add so much capacity when ICG’s market share isn’t growing with competitors also adding capacity (not just Stena but also Cobelfret).  They argue that the result of all this extra capacity is going to be a price war, a price war that ICG are bound to lose against much larger competitors.  They say a very positive spin was put on last years results which in reality were rather disappointing.

Is his 15% stake enough to save him given his extremely generous remuneration package should these new builds be a step too far?  The Ulysses issue wasn’t mentioned (I assume the article was written before it emerged) but if questions weren't already being asked by shareholders they surely are now, especially given the company is in the news basically daily now.

Have to agree that article in the irish Independent is a disgrace my Heart goes out for that family
I agree.  It sounds as if they have been effectively screwed over by ICG with the company having no consideration at all for their customers.  Such press will not be helping their reputation (and lets face it, that of the industry as a whole), though as I say the independent do appear, rightly or wrongly,  to have a bit of a vendetta against ICG.  Hopefully the family eventually get compensated appropriately in some way.  I believe under EU legislation ICG should have been liable for the costs, but they seem to be wriggling out of their obligations in any way they can.  Perhaps it will take someone to take court action?
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The News Board / Re: Irish Ferries Fleet movements
« Last post by SEA on July 19, 2018, 07:45:33 AM »
Have to agree that article in the irish Independent is a disgrace my Heart goes out for that family
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The News Board / Re: Irish Ferries Fleet movements
« Last post by Dart on July 19, 2018, 12:40:18 AM »
Very good point that sgraIRL is making that no Irish Ferries representative has went on camera or behind a microphone during any of this. They don't seem to want to face the music, which puts fuel on the fire. The communication/PR is a disaster and I can see how it would really annoy people. It's very different to how other travel companies operate. For example, Ryanair are facing disruption at the moment due to IR issues and they go on TV/radio to communicate with their customers and the public. Even CIE companies like Dublin Bus and Irish Rail face the music when things go wrong and they do PR quite well.

Then again, if you recall from previous times when IF have been in the news, I don't think they do communications well when they go before the cameras. Maybe that's why they don't do it anymore.  They could hire third party professional PR firms to do a communications plan for them. Would make sense.

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The News Board / Re: Irish Ferries Fleet movements
« Last post by Steven on July 19, 2018, 12:28:00 AM »
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The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
« Last post by Steven on July 19, 2018, 12:26:44 AM »
With the current uncertainty regarding the "brexit" fiasco I would not be surprised to see one of the bigger E Flexers being provisionally earmarked for Rosslare-Cherbourg  route.
I would - both ports would need work for a start.  We are talking about a 240m long twin-level loading vessel after all - in the case that IF Brexit ends up in a large increase of Ireland to France freight, a second ship would probably be a better option (perhaps even operating to Dublin) as it would increase frequency as well.  If anywhere on the Irish Sea is to get the longer version E-Flexer I would have thought it would be Dublin to Holyhead, a route were an increase in frequency isn't an option and Stena's competitor is increasing capacity, but again that would need infrastructure work.  Pretty sure a 240m long vessel could operate Karlskrona to Gdynia without any major work though, and the route is crying out for more capacity.  The four options (if exercised) could be any length anyway.  For all we know they could even be planing a short version!
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The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
« Last post by ferryfan on July 18, 2018, 11:10:27 PM »
With the current uncertainty regarding the "brexit" fiasco I would not be surprised to see one of the bigger E Flexers being provisionally earmarked for Rosslare-Cherbourg  route.
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The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
« Last post by giftgrub on July 18, 2018, 10:53:13 PM »
And for a rumoured 100 or 120 million US dollars each, quite a bargain if the vessels work as planned.

As a comparison P&O paid a reported 180 million euro (210 US dollar) for Spirit of Britain, a different type of ferry but a massive price difference.

Would expect more charters and more orders as Stena RoRo can capitalise on older vessels needing to be replaced and a steady supply of new ferries coming through.

P&O themselves might be prime candidates to take two having seen DFDS take one for Dover.

Possibly biggest ferry series ordered since the Stena freight series built by Hyundai in the seventies.

http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/stena_runner_1977.htm
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The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
« Last post by Collision-course on July 18, 2018, 10:20:46 PM »
Great news on E-Flexer 7 & 8, would think there will be more of these ordered.

7&8 could replace Spirit/ Vision / Baltica and (Nordica which is returning soon) on Poland route.

Given the success of the still untested vessels so far, could we see double figures.
Quite possible, Stena have an option on a further 4, (E-Flexer 9-12) and are currently deciding weather to exercise that option, I had a feeling 7&8 would be ordered, but even I am surprised that the class may now run to 12, that said 7&8 will be different, 1-6 are 215M long and have 3100 lanemeters, 7&8 however will be 240M long and have 3600 lanemeters.
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