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The News Board / Re: Irish Ferries Fleet movements
« on: February 11, 2016, 12:10:13 AM »
I asked the question which is just a question and in case there is any confusion read this BBC article mentioning the cancellations of channel services due to the storm

I ain't no warrior!

Let's be clear.

Basically there was an accusation made that two Masters (specific real people) were unprofessional.

I don't know if you guys are Doctors, Lawyers, call centre workers, plumbers, salesmen, teachers, whatever - but how would you like your professional judgement to be questioned in public by people who aren't in your profession.

These guys are all professionals who make judgement calls based on the information they had, they would never deliberately put their ship in danger.

Having been the total mess on board the ships car deck how can you call the 2 masters of the ship professionals

They should at the very least be sacked immediately as put the ship in very great danger anyone with half a brain can see that

Totally disgraceful actions

The News Board / Re: Irish Ferries Fleet movements
« on: February 09, 2016, 11:10:53 PM »
I cannot understand what made the masters of either Epsilon or Stena Flavia take their vessels out in such bad weather, the forecasts were accurate and warnings were in place well in advance. Maybe pressure from management was an issue? I'd say there are several very disgruntled passengers disembarking this morning along with passengers and freight drivers who were left stranded in Dublin and Holyhead because of her (Epsilon) missed crossings.
As I've said elsewhere, staying at Cherbourg probably wasn't an option.  Given Bretagne couldn't get in to Cherbourg either, I'd imagine conditions at Cherbourg were not safe for a large ship to be tied up in the harbour.  Tying a large ship to a huge slab of concrete really isn't a good idea in those types of conditions.  Getting out of the harbour and to shelter was probably the best option at the time.  Whether the correct judgements were made or not none of us can really answer, as we don't know what data was available or what advice was given.  It also wouldn't be the first time a weather report proved to be inaccurate.

The weather reports were not consistent and I think it is rather disingenuous for some armchair enthusiasts to cast aspersions on the judgement of the Masters of these two vessels.  No Master would put his vessel in danger...comfort may be compromised if the customers require, as they would on the Sunday France - Ireland sailing but to suggest unprofessionalism is easy for keyboard warriors.

PaddyL where have you been the weather was forecast days before so you are totally wrong in saying weather reports were not consistent

I also think pressure from management will be a huge factor

Steven's post is exactly right and you are way way of the mark......

The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
« on: April 21, 2015, 10:44:41 PM »
I travelled on Both Superfast VIII and Superfast VII the weekend of the Ireland Scotland match.

As you can image the services  were very full and the staff did there best to cope,

coming back on Sunday evening from Cairnryan we loaded on the bottom deck of Superfast VII which had just come out of a compressed drydock,

The car deck was like a building site with hazardous chemicals and oil drums scattered around the car deck and not locked away in a secure fireproof area as you would normally expect.

There was no fireproof paint left on the car deck floor and there appeared that the car decks had not received any attention during the refit at H&W.

This ferry was a fire hazard and the word shipshape appears to be missing from the Stena vocabularly.

In all my years travelling with many ferry operators around the world i have never seen anything as bad. 

This falls down because the Northern Marine experiment has badly failed.

No suitable maintenance plan and no suitable tonnage to allow proper planned maintenance to be carried out.

I also noticed the ships forktruck powered by LPG which i felt was inapproapriate in a hazardous area. 

The problems with Superfast X are a simpton of this too.

Absolutely everything you have mentioned there is a failing of the ship board management, and nothing to do with Northern Marine. The loading officer should have stopped the operation to make the decks safe if it was in such a state. Blaming someone who isn't on the ship is just ridiculous. 

From what i've read, it is no experiment either. Seems like it is a measure that is here to stay and the sooner Stena Line realize it, the better for all of us passengers. I'm tired listening to them moan about Northern Marine. This whole "anti-NMM" thing is getting old.

The bottom line is that if the ships on board management think it is a fire hazard they have a responsibility to stop the boat and inform whomever is responsible for it ashore and stop everything until it is made safe.

northern marine ship management sounds to be at the heart of all the problems

will be more interested in lining their pockets with as much money as possible and 2 fingers to passengers

so your statement is wrong

The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements Superfast X
« on: April 21, 2015, 10:40:45 PM »
Superfast X yet more "technical difficulties" scheduled to move from berth 51 to ocean pier 37 this afternoons sailing and return leg from Holyhead at 8.10 cancelled. There were delays over the holiday weekend which left a lot of disgruntled passengers who complained more about the poor customer service than the delays. They really need to sort this out pretty quick as I sense that customers are already heading to Irish Ferries in large numbers (Swift numbers supposedly way up on Easter last year).

Good to see Irish ferries swift service getting extra passengers

Not everyone wants to be on the slow boat to china Superslow X

The News Board / Re: Stena Superfast X (image heavy)
« on: February 22, 2015, 05:14:33 PM »
Would not pay to much interest in Facebook comments as on average, a lot of the comments are beyond strange in context and meaning.

How can the introduction of a luxury passenger ferry replacing a smaller vessel be negative, if the HSS was so popular why was it running over half empty on most crossings last year, Stena have got to promote this massive investment and it has got to work, it is no longer an inferior product to the Adventurer and they need both ferries sailing at max passenger capacity. I think the finish and fit out to the Superfast X will be a big update for the route and only once people get a chance to sail on the ferry will its success be gauged.

The fact that the Superfast X has been through a few owners is irrelevant as the vessel is 12/13 years old, has just been rebuilt for the route and has a good 20+ years of full working life left, yes it's sad that the HSS is gone, but that was hardly a surprise and I think the introduction of the Superfast X is very positive, they could have put a glorified freighter on the route but took the decision to make a major investment in a proper passenger vessel, offering an upgraded passenger experience.

Oh dear I just have to comment on this

1st the having travrlled on the fantastic HSS on the Stranraer Belfast route and then s couple of times on the slow 'superfast' ferries

I felt stena had gone back 30 years in the Super fast (what a stupid name for a slow boat)

Now again the same is happening on the southern route

The 21st century HSS is off and 20th century slow boat on

Oh and I think you need to get real as those people on Facebook are probably mostly customers yes people that travel on the route and certainly won't be happy being ridiculed by a no all giftgrub

The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
« on: April 07, 2013, 09:27:26 PM »
Yes, the Stena Voyager is in Belfast as it has not left yet, and does indeed remain in full Stena Line livery as it always has. 

The vessel is now owned by Stena Metall and the process of removing the Voyager to Sweden is underway with lots of issues to sort out for the tow. Its not as simple to tow a massive twin hulled vessel with no traditional bow mooring (Like the Pride of Dover) system so there may be some bracing added to the bow for the tow (or not) all depends on the experts opinion.

Most of the onboard furniture and equipment have been removed for use on other Irish sea vessels, a lot of technical equipment including the massive water jets have been removed  to keep as spare parts for the Explorer. There were also reports of the remaining fuel being removed late last week as the turbines will not run again while fitted in the Voyager.

Unfortunately there are no further plans for the Voyager it is going to be heading to a scrapyard within the next few weeks.

Plenty of images of the Voyager available here:

Also image of the Watling Street in drydock in Gdynia from Marine Traffic.


How Stena could be so stupid

This is a piece of history they are destroying

The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
« on: March 29, 2013, 08:54:35 PM »
Any sign of the Voyager leaving belfast yet for scrap?

Really will be an end of an era when she finally goes.

At least we can say we sailed on the greatest craft to sail on the north channel

Now we have to go back in time to pre-1996 to the old slow boats

The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
« on: March 14, 2013, 07:56:55 PM »
Well if that is true about the Voyager it is a very very sad day

I havent sailed with stena since the HSS was withdrawn as always go PO now on there 21st century fast ferry rather than the last century stena ''superfasts'

The HSS was the most awesome way to travel accross the irish sea and probably there will never be anything that comes close to it again

How anyone was not a fan of it amazes me

At least some can say we travelled on her!!!!

The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
« on: December 08, 2012, 09:18:29 PM »
Unbelievable that sten would scrap those as they are totally state of the art as opposed to the clapped out old superfasts

The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
« on: December 05, 2012, 10:00:10 PM »
"As mentioned on another forum, the Voyager is likely to be scrapped by Stena and turned back into Aluminium."

And not a moment too soon. The sooner both of these incredibly awful vessels are recycled into aluminium, the better. :)

What a load of bull

These were the best ships that sailed on the Irish sea routes and still ahead of their time

I for 1 will never go on the slow boats they have now as they have gone back 10 years in my eyes

The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
« on: March 06, 2011, 08:59:41 PM »
Where was the fire, was there a lot of damage?

The News Board / Re: HSS Stena Explorer
« on: September 02, 2012, 11:14:11 PM »
It just a real shame the management at Belfast dont have the same vision and get the Voyager back on to scotland instead of the overated slow boats on there now

I will never travel with stena until a high speed ferry is back on

The News Board / Re: Stena Line - New Tonnage for North Channel
« on: April 23, 2011, 08:59:55 AM »

Would look forward to that Scott...I have a vivid memory of standing on McCaughey Road with my father when I was about ten, and seeing three of the Saints across the Victoria Channel being outfitted. All were still in red lead, and seemed to be massive in comparison to anything we had seen before that. With all four having served on the North Channel, they really are 'our' ferries! Also managed a bridge visit to the Stena Antrim some years ago...very special trip!

Sam, Yes, I feel like I've grown up with them and will certainly feel we are worse off when the Caledonia leaves. If you're interested, I have a selection of photos at

Does anyone have pics of the 3 saints being built?

The News Board / Re: Stena Line - New Tonnage for North Channel
« on: April 23, 2011, 08:58:18 AM »
with the withdrawl of the HSS stena will make a step back of 15 years and deffo not the way too compete with low cost airlines
Given the running costs of the HSS, I don't think they had much choice.

That said: HSS crossing time to Stranraer on the current timetable is 2hr10 / 2hr20, depending on sailing (2hrs / 2hr10 Stranraer to Belfast).  Stena's press release announcing the Superfast leases talks about a crossing time of 2hr15 (partly thanks to the move to Loch Ryan Port).  They're not really losing anything.

(...and personally, always preferred the slow boats anyway, they have a far more relaxed feel about them.  Will miss Navigator, myself.)

The HSS is unique in my eyes and personally I hate sitting on a old boat to china

But also it will be sad to see all 3 ships going but especially the HSS

The News Board / Re: Stena Line - New Tonnage for North Channel
« on: April 21, 2011, 01:45:10 PM »
It will be a very sade day when the Caledonia leave belfast

And also with the withdrawl of the HSS stena will make a step back of 15 years and deffo not the way too compete with low cost airlines

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