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The News Board / Re: Oscar Wilde sale agreed
« on: April 27, 2019, 01:39:22 pm »
If I had a hat, I'd eat it if IF were to buy the Stena Spirit or Stena Vision. They're well maintained (ish) but are effectively date back to the 1970s.

The News Board / Re: Oscar Wilde sale agreed
« on: April 27, 2019, 01:21:43 pm »
Initial indications are that Oscar Wilde will operate for GNV between Genoa and Olbia this summer, the same route as the Moby Drea and Otta.

The News Board / Re: WB Yeats Interior Pics
« on: April 24, 2019, 07:44:54 pm »
I am sure everyone will know this, W.B. Yeats has being voted Best ferry of the year 2019  source . Maybe we are being over critical and picky . I have being on board her many times and I have to say she is a very  nice clean modern ship .it may take a bit of getting used to .
The ship is way ahead of her predecessor and there is no comparison to the Jaded Oscar wilde, Lets face it the Oscar is very old and TVs showers etc were broken in a lot of cabins . Ulysses for me was the  ship in her day when she was new and in my books way nicer. I still think her lines are far nicer than the yeats .There is nothing wrong with the W.B. and I look forward to travelling on her at some stage .
Whilst I quite like the Yeats can I be super snarky and wonder aloud a) if the people making the awards have travelled on the Yeats (I know for a fact at least one of the awarding companies haven't) or b) how many of the other significant new builds delivered in the past year they've been on to compare her against (Kitakami, Sunflower Satsuma?).

The News Board / Re: Oscar Wilde sale agreed
« on: April 20, 2019, 05:44:53 pm »
it would make sense for one of these italian vessels to be used on summer service to Rosscoff,
What Italian vessels? What summer service to Roscoff?

The News Board / Re: Irish Ferries Fleet movements
« on: March 28, 2019, 11:36:40 pm »
Thats definately another possibility
I'm going to put my neck on the line and say Ireland-Spain is definitely not another possibility for the OW...!

Discussion Board / Re: Investment at Rosslare Europort
« on: February 12, 2019, 08:51:34 pm »
See also the back page of local Wexford newspapers this week, which sets out the complexities of Rosslare Europort ownership, which includes UK Government!
Sorry I only have hard copy so no link.

Link to the article here

Pádraig Byrne

Complications surrounding the ownership of Rosslare Europort are likely to have been a major factor in the lack of investment seen there in recent years, according to Fianna Fáil Deputy James Browne.
After doing some digging, Deputy Browne believes he's gotten to the bottom of the ownership issue and has raised the matter on several occasions in the Dáil with Minister for Foreign Affairs Simon Coveney.

'Basically, I've done a bit of digging on this, and Rosslare Europort was established under the Rosslare Fishguard Harbours Company 1898 by UK statutory instrument. That covers the two ports and a bit of the railway at either side. Under this act, the British government delegated control of Rosslare to Iarnróid Eireann and Fishguard comes under the control of Stena Line. Essentially it's an arrangement like the ESB - it's state owned, but the government have very little hand or part in its running.'

'Effectively,' he continued. 'The future of Rosslare Europort is in the hands of the UK government. They could opt to dissolve the company if they wished to. Now I'm sure Iarnróid Eireann would fight that every step of the way, but hypothetically, it's possible. I don't think Britain has any particular economic or political interest in the port, it's just not on their agenda, until the Irish government puts it on their agenda.'

'Maybe in the wake of Brexit, the UK government will be happy to keep a port in the EU,' Deputy Browne added. 'I'm not suggesting that we'll start to see British navy ships down in Rosslare or anything, but it's something that needs to be resolved.'

Deputy Browne has urged the government to reach out to the Departments of transport and foreign affairs in the UK in a bid to sort out the ownership once and for all. He says a piece of legislation needs to be passed in both the UK and Ireland.

'If we want to get the port back into Irish hands, we need to go to the UK government and say it,' he said. 'Nobody really knows who has the final say on the future of Rosslare and I think that's been a problem. Iarnróid Eireann were quite happy to have the government take over the port and to walk away, but they were given control by UK statute. I think that's been a reason for a failure to invest in Rosslare.'

Wexford People
I'm not sure this is true at all, the company was established via a legal instrument but it isn't state-owned, certainly the UK half. The UK government's shareholding in the Fishguard & Rosslare company went with Sealink upon privatisation and thence to Stena. So Stena legally hold half ownership of Rosslare and the Irish railways half ownership of Fishguard. But as stated they have agreement to treat Fishguard as if it were fully owned by Stena and vice-versa at Rosslare. And I can't imagine Stena being an impediment to development.

The accounts of Stena Line Ports Limited are very clear about this -

The News Board / Re: End of Rosslare Services
« on: February 07, 2019, 12:57:48 am »

Also in local Wexford press this week, local FF TD James Browne has done some research ref the ownership of Rosslare, suggesting the UK Government may still have an interest there. Only have paper copy, trying to find the link.
The port is legally jointly owned by Stena Line and IE via the joint harbours company but for practical purposes IE take full responsibility for the port whilst Stena do the same at the company's other port in Fishguard.

The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
« on: January 13, 2019, 01:29:15 pm »
The Food City (or is it a Met now?) is the nastiest space on board and has barely been touched since 2002. So if they are spending money to refit her I'd hope they'd do something to address that.

The News Board / Re: HSC Dublin Swift
« on: June 10, 2018, 10:14:00 pm »
If Swift continues to attract high volumes as it consistantly has since the demise of the Dun Laoire - Holyhead service i see irish ferries placing an order for a purpose built Austal 112 or leasing or purchasing Leonardo Christina from Fred Olsen Group.
There's hundreds of fast ferries out there - why would IF want to pay over the odds for Leonora Christina? (Fred. Olsen have no need or desire to sell any of their mainline fleet).

The News Board / Re: P&O Fleet Movements
« on: April 07, 2018, 07:32:12 am »
I imagine it would be almost impossible to get the myriad groups of farmers and local authorities that own and back Brittany Ferries to sell up. And it's somewhat improbable that Stena would want to buy them.

The News Board / Re: P&O Fleet Movements
« on: April 01, 2018, 03:31:28 pm »
Stena Line and Stena RoRo are separate, but they very much operate in concert with one another when required - so I imagine the process of Stena Line chartering the Carrier is altogether different to P&O doing so.

The News Board / Re: Stena Europe 2018 Dry Docking
« on: February 10, 2018, 04:56:55 pm »
Pride of York and Bruges sit alongside every day, they should look in pretty good shape given the amount of time available for maintenance (and they do often look decidedly ropey onboard).

The only interesting aspect to this point is whether Irish Ferries had to discuss with Stena Ports the options before placing the order for the new ship - and exactly how they did that given the whole thing was something of a secret. I'm sure Holyhead will be able to add the required infrastructure. Not sure why there is any additional required for the Yeats as she is pretty conventional in loading and Cherbourg has multiple underused berths which should be suitable with, at most, a little bit of tinkering.

Discussion Board / Re: Ireland-France ferry links
« on: February 04, 2018, 05:55:23 pm »
Liverpool-Dublin as operated by B&I Line was a passenger-oriented operation which would never survive today. The current Liverpool-Dublin operators are exclusively or predominantly for freight. I'm sure to a degree Irish Ferries and Stena wish their predecessors had somehow managed to gift them a Liverpool operation rather than closing them when they did - but even in retrospect it's hard to say the actions of B&I and SBF were anything other than the right ones at the time.

As for Le Havre, like Steven says the geography is probably the killer. The crossing is plenty long enough already and Cherbourg balances the crossing time vs location conundrum pretty well in comparison. Paradoxically, Cherbourg's location up on its peninsular has been faulted for the demise of its UK ferry operations - although the degree to which that is historical misfortune (BF will always prioritise Ouistreham and they are the only operator left) rather than absolute destiny is hard to say.

The Merrion Lounge / Re: M/S Amorella, what will happen to her?
« on: February 03, 2018, 10:04:30 pm »
Cinderella does a very specific 22 hour cruise itinerary; it would be wierd to come out of that market and leave it all to Birka.

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