The Stena Nordica is to be withdrawn from the Karlskrona - Gdynia route on October 20th due to falling demand for freight caused by the global slowdown.
It is expected that after its own overhaul it will head for Rosslare to take up the Fishguard route to cover the Stena Europe while its in Belfast for refit.
The rumour is that the Stena Nordica may replace the Stena Caladonia at Belfast when the Stena Europe returns to Rosslare.
Word is that the Stena Europe is earmarked for replacment sometime in 2010.
There has been talk of Stena Europe going for a while....
Willbe great to see the Nordica (P&O's Ex-European Ambassador) back on the Irish Sea...
Also, there is talk that Celtic Link are going to put the Diplomat on charter, but no word on where or if she will be replaced...
Further to above , Stena recently announced that The Stena Nordica will operate the Rosslare - Fishguard service from november 4th - 11th and will replace the Stena Seatrader on Dun Laoghrie - Holyhead service on november 12th
seems that Stena still belive Irish market situation,... even economical news tell something else, nowadays....
Anyway ships are so much easier move than market itself ;)
Stena have just anounced a new a new timetable for the Dun Laoghire - Holyhead service , hav'nt seen it yey but I believe its 4 sailings each way daily with conventional ferries and one round trip daily for the HSS including the summer months
The new timetable comes into effect on March 15th, Holyhead to Dublin departures will be at 0230, 0820 1350 and 2130 with returns at 0215 0820, 1600 and 2115. The HSS roundtrip is at 1025 from Holyhead and 1330 from Dun Laoghaire.
Nordica enters service on Tuesday.
EDIT: Was researching some information for the site and found some onboard pictures here (http://www.ferry-site.dk/9215505.htm).
There is a rumor that the Stena Nautica will replace the Stena Europe on the Rosslare - Frisguard service when the two newbuilds enter service.
The Stena Nordica has returned to Dublin - Holyhead from refit cover on Rosslare - Fishguard and has been reflagged under the red ensign.
Found this picture of the Stena Nordica loading at Rosslare.
The Stena Transporter is to be withdrawn from the Harwich - Rotterdam service and will make its last sailing on 28th Febuary , it will then take up the Dublin - Holyhead service from 2nd - 14th March to provide refit cover for the Stena Adventurer.
On completeing cover for Stena Adventurer , the Stena Transporter will head to Rotterdam to be laid up until a decission is made on its future deployment.
The plan is that the Stena Nordica will cover the Stena Adventurer's timetable and the Stena Transporter will cover the Stena Nordica's timetable.
As stated else where the Stena Voyager and Stena Caledonia are to be withdrawn from the Belfast - Stranrear service and replaced by two newbuild ro-pax ferries.
Below the Stena Voyager leaving Stranrear for Belfast.
And below the Stena Caledonia by Harry Cragall
If I'm not mistaken the Stena Caledonia is the last of the former Sealink ships still with Stena Line.
Below an artists impression of one of the two new ro-pax vessels for Stena Lines Belfast - Cairnryan service , they will be identical sisters.
The Stena Lynx III is due to depart Dublin port tonight at 2200 , dont know where its going but its due back at the end of the month , refit maybe?
The Stena Adventurer has returned to Dublin from refit in a new livery for Stena Line.
The Stena Transporter has departed Dublin for lay up in Rotterdam with no decision on its future currently , the Stena Nordica has resumed its normal operating timetable on Dublin - Holyhead
The Stena Transporter arriving in Rotterdam . Picture from www.shipspotting.com
Further to above the Stena Transporter has been given a slight reprieve and will cover the Stena Hollandica while it undergoes repairs from 21st - 25th march and will then cover the Stena Partner which will undergo engine repairs from 27th - 19th march.
Looking at the pictures below from www.shipspotting.com it is the Stena Partner that should be laid up.
A new timatable has come into effect on the Dublin - Holyhead on march 15th , the HSS service will move forward slightly and the Stena Nordica will now operate two round trips per day instead of one.
The Stena Lynx III is with A&P Falmouth for refit.
The Stena Lynx III is due back from Falmouth on April 1st , and will be put back into storage in Dublin Port until it resumes the Rosslare - Fishguard service.
The Stena Lynx III has arrived in Rosslare to resume the fast service to Fishguard.
Rumor has it that the ships currently under construction for the Harwich - Rotterdam service will now go to Northern Irish services due to lost contracts and the economic downturn... No official announcement from Stena yet...
The Stena Transporter has been sold to Medeteranian operator Strade Blu
QuoteThe Stena Lynx III has arrived in Rosslare to resume the fast service to Fishguard.
I shall hopefully be on it at the end of August. I'll see what/if any alterations have been made and shall take pics 8-)
The former Stena Parisien is currently undergoing refit before entering service on the Belfast Stranrear service.
The Stena Lynx III is due back in Dublin port tomorow having completed a shorter than usual season on the Rosslare - Fishguard service , roumour suggests that this ship will replace the soon to be mothballed HSS Stena Explorer on the Dun Laoghire - Holyhead service.
Photo is from www.shipspotting.com
The former SeaFrance Manet , is now the Stena Navigator and is nearing completion of its overhaul and refit at Dunkerque.
The HSS Stena Discovery is now on the UK taking on fuel bunkers for its long run to Venasuiala.
I posted this else where, but latest rumours doing the rounds are Explorer will had off at the end of the year and will be replaced with Carisma, Stena Britannica will join the Adventurer in Dublin, and the Nordica will move to Fishguard (but there are doubts about her capacity)...
Has anyone any more news on the Discovery? IO've searched the net but cant find anything.
She sailed to Holyhead to load fuel, and departed for (I think) Venezuela on the 1st (of October), however Stena haven't confirmed anything yet...
The Stena Nordica is having its passenger capacity increased during its current refit , a further indication that it is earmarked as the Stena Europe's replacment at Rosslare.
The two newbuilds nearing completion have been allocated the names Stena Hollandica and Stena Britannica.
The Stena Hollandica is expected to be the first to enter service.
Stena Line will not be providing refit cover for the Stena Europe in January , meaning there will be no service from Rosslare to Fishguard for two weeks in January.
The Stena Navigator is reported to have had technical problems upon entry into service on the Belfast - Stranrear service.
The former Stena Line HSS discovery has arrived in Venezeula. Picture below from Noticiero Digital.com
Stena Explorer has departed for its refit , it is not known if the vessel will return to the Dun Laoghire service , Stena fastcraft services between the Republic and the UK are currently suspended.
Despite there being no passenger service on the Rosslare - Fishguard service while Stena Europe is away for refit and internal refurbishment , the Stena Seafarer has arrived at Rosslare to maintain the freight service , passengers who booked for the service during Stena Europe's refit are being accomadated on Irish Feries Oscar Wilde.
Below , Stena Seafarer from www.shipspotting.com
The Stena Europe is currently in dry dock in belfast, where she will remain until the 18th of January. Also the Ulysses is in Birkenhead undergoing her annual refit so the Isle Of Inishmoor has gone up to holly head to take over her route, therefore there is no service in Pembroke.
the Oscar Wilde is covering
Announcement was made this morning -
The Stena Lynx III will operate Holyhead - Dun Laoghaire March - June then Fishguard until September, then back to Holyhead. At Holyhead she will operate one return trip per day apart from April - June when she will operate two roundtrips. At Fishguard she will only operate one roundtrip.
The Stena Explorer will only operate July and August and only one roundtrip per day.
The Lynx will have a 2 million Euro refit to provide a new Barista bar/Coffee House, new Stena Plus, Met Grill and enhanced shopping/
The Stena Seafarer is expected in Belfast in late febuary to release the Stena Caledonia for refit.
As of 18/01/10 the stena lynx is in Belfast
I would have thought the Stena Europe should be on the way back to Fishguard by the time this picture was taken ?
The Stena Seafarer left Rosslare for Larne at 1830 this evening. It is hoped Stena Europe will take up the 1430 sailing ex Fishguard tomorrow afternoon.
Preliminary results for the year ended 2009 show that Stena Line saw a 20 - 25 % reduction in freight volumes across all routes.
The company is also expected to return a pre-tax loss for the year ending 2009 , the company commented that its fuel costs have gone from being 10% of their operating costs to 30%.
From BFEnthusiasts site from Seashore member
The possible fleet combinations are really getting very strange, the might just leave everything as is:
http://forums.bfenthusiasts.com/showthread.php?t=7819
On Wikipedia it mentions that the Stena Germanica and Stena Scandinavica cruise ferries are to move to the Poland route in 2010. I've not seen any announcements about this or can't find any info on here or other sites. Is this just a rumour?
It also mentions that Stena Baltica (ex-Konningen Beatrix) will be moving, to where it doesn't say. It also says that the Stena Europe is likely to be moving back to Scandinavia? What will replace the Europe?
I'd read that Stena Hollandica and Stena Britannica were due to move to Poland route when the new ships arrive at Harwich. They can't fit into Dublin, Stranrear or Fleetwood because they are so long, but would Hollandica fit into Fishguard and Rosslare?
Where are they going to get cruise ferries for the Gothenburg-Kiel route? Or had traffic dived on that route? Their competitors on similar north>south routes in that area (Color Line and DFDS) both have big cruise ferries with small car decks and lots of cabins. Bilbao going there?
QuoteFrom BFEnthusiasts site from Seashore member
The possible fleet combinations are really getting very strange, the might just leave everything as is:
http://forums.bfenthusiasts.com/showthread.php?t=7819
On Wikipedia it mentions that the Stena Germanica and Stena Scandinavica cruise ferries are to move to the Poland route in 2010. I've not seen any announcements about this or can't find any info on here or other sites. Is this just a rumour?
It also mentions that Stena Baltica (ex-Konningen Beatrix) will be moving, to where it doesn't say. It also says that the Stena Europe is likely to be moving back to Scandinavia? What will replace the Europe?
I'd read that Stena Hollandica and Stena Britannica were due to move to Poland route when the new ships arrive at Harwich. They can't fit into Dublin, Stranrear or Fleetwood because they are so long, but would Hollandica fit into Fishguard and Rosslare?
Where are they going to get cruise ferries for the Gothenburg-Kiel route? Or had traffic dived on that route? Their competitors on similar north>south routes in that area (Color Line and DFDS) both have big cruise ferries with small car decks and lots of cabins. Bilbao going there?
Im not to sure that the Stena Europe will be leaving after all.
QuoteOn Wikipedia it mentions that the Stena Germanica and Stena Scandinavica cruise ferries are to move to the Poland route in 2010. I've not seen any announcements about this or can't find any info on here or other sites. Is this just a rumour?
Never base anything on what you see on Wiki.
Stena always keep things very quiet, but will issue a press release soon I would imagine. Just remember all we have at the moment are rumours...
The STENA CALEDONIA is due to go off for refit on 22nd February until 11th March. She will refit at Harland and Wolff and during the period in dry dock she will also have her Stena Plus lounge extended to enable waiter service and a proper menu to be offered as on her fleet mates. I gather the Stena Plus is to be extended further forward of where it currently is on the starboard side of the ship midships. I assume this will take up the part of the Barista Lounge behind the bar along the starboard funnel casing.
Harland and Wolff are refitting 5 Stena Line Irish sea vessels this winter - STENA EUROPE (completed), STENA LYNX III (currently), STENA LEADER (currently and due back into service sometime this weekend) when I assume the STENA PIONEER will take her place in the Belfast Dry Dock for 2 weeks until the CALEDONIA's turn.
Work is also well underway on the construction of Stena's new Loch Ryan Port, adjacent to the A77 about 1 mile north of Cairnryan with evidence of the site having being cleared for building.
Stena Line have recieved aproval for its relocation from Stranraer to Loch Ryan , the company also signaled its intention to replace Stena Voyager , Stena Caledonia and Stena Navigator with two new high speed conventional ferries once the new terminal is operational.
It appears the STENA CALEDONIA's refit has been delayed by a week and she should enter dry dock on Monday 1st March not this coming Monday 22nd February as originally planned.
It would seem the delay in completing the STENA LEADER's refit (she was back in service a week late) has had a knock-on effect with the STENA PIONEER which is currently in the dry dock and, thus, meaning the STENA SEAFARER cannot be released from Fleetwood to Stranraer to cover for the STENA CALEDONIA until the PIONEER is back.
The Stena Lynx III suffered damage when it collided with terminal 2 at Holyhead , no word yet how badly the ship has been damaged or if its entry into service on Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead on March 15th will be delayed, so far all that is known is that the majority of the damage to the Lynx is to the hull.
The collision also did extensive damage to the link span at the berth.
Reports on Ferries of Northern Europe and Irish Sea Shipping that Stena Line have sold the Stena Navigator.
http://paulmasonthamesshipping.webs.com/marketreport21stfeb.htm
Possibly a sale and charter back until they get the newbuilds ready for the Belfast route ?
Stena Caledonia is finally getting her refit which is due to commence tomorrow at Harland and Wolff. She was initially to go to dry dock on 22nd February but problems delayed both the Stena Leader and Stena Pioneer during their refits at Belfast, and, with the Stena Pioneer finally ready to re-commence service between Larne and Fleetwood the Caledonia can take her place in the dry dock. This afternoon, she is at the old Stena terminal in Belfast, presumably to allow Stena Navigator to berth at VT4.
During her refit the Stena Caledonia is expected to have her Stena Plus lounge expanded to allow table/waiter service along the lines of her fleetmates.
The Stena Navigator is due to be joined on the Stranraer service by the Stena Seafarer and the timetable operated will be as follows;
Stena Navigator;
0330 Stranraer - Belfast
0730 Belfast - Stranraer
1200 Stranraer - Belfast
on arrival and discharge at Belfast she will proceed to the old Stena terminal until
2230 Belfast - Stranraer
Stena Seafarer
0500 Belfast - Stranraer
0930 Stranraer - Belfast
on arrival and discharge at Belfast she will vacate the berth for the Stena Navigator's 1500 arrival until
1920 Belfast - Stranraer
2359 Stranraer - Belfast
During layover at the old Belfast terminal, Stena Navigator will be receiving additional maintenance and finishing off of some jobs that were not done prior to her entering service in November, including painting car decks.
From Stena Line.co.uk
http://www.stenaline.co.uk/ferry/media/news/news-100319-refits/
Leading ferry company Stena Line is giving its Irish Sea fleet a makeover to the tune of over £9 million.
At a time when travel companies across the globe are implementing cutbacks, Stena Line is spending millions on the refit and refurbishment of ships across its five Irish Sea routes.
The Stena Caledonia, which operates on the Stranraer-Belfast route, is currently in dry dock at the Harland and Wolff shipyard in Belfast undergoing a £1 million refit. It's the last of eight ships which have been given makeovers in the past three months.
Stena Line's Irish Sea Area Director, Michael McGrath, believes that the investment reflects the ferry company's ongoing commitment to improving its fleet and services.
"At Stena Line we are continually investing in our product to exceed customer expectations and give them a pleasurable and comfortable travelling experience," he said.
"We've never been a company to rest on its laurels and this investment in our Irish Sea fleet reflects a desire to continually improve in terms of quality and service reliability."
"The credit crunch has resulted in more people considering holidays within the British Isles, which is good news for the ferry industry. Therefore it is vitally important that when new customers travel with us we show them how much ferry travel has developed over the years and how pleasurable an experience it can be compared to flying," the Area Director added.
Highlights of Stena Line's makeover programme include a £2M refit and refurbishment of the Stena Nordica superferry, which sails between Holyhead and Dublin Port, £2.1M on the Stena Europe superferry, which operates between Fishguard and Rosslare, and £2M on the Stena Lynx III fastcraft, which sails between Holyhead and Dun Laoghaire.
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MEDIA ENQUIRIES: For further information, please contact Nigel Tilson, Stena Line's UK Communications Manager, on 028 90 884036 or Fiona Brown of Duffy Rafferty Communications on 028 90 730880
Stena Caledonia returns to service on the Irish sea within the next few hours, sporting a totally new look. If you want to have a look then visit this gentlemans Flickr account to see some great pictures of the all new 2010 Stena Caledonia.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey
Stena Line has reached an agreement on a 5 year charter deal with Marine Atlantic in Canada for the charter of Stena Traveller and Stena Trader , both ships will be heavily modified before entering service with Marine Atlantic. They will be replaced by temporary tonnage until 2 newbuilds are delivered next year for the Killingholme - Hook Of Holland service.
The new Stena Hollandica has entered service displacing the former Stena Hollindica which is on its way to a Polish shipyard (belived to be Remontawa) for an extensive refit before replacing either Stena Germanica or Stena Scandinavica , which will in turn replace Stena Baltica on Polish routes.
Below from www.shipspotting.com are Stena traveller , Stena Trader , two Stena Hollindica's passing each other in Holland , Stena Baltica , Stena Germanica and Stena Scandinavica.
Was I seeing things, or are they shortening them before delivery?!?
Yes astonishingly both Stena Traveller and Stena Trader are to be shortened while having their passenger capacity increased at the same time , I imagine both ships will look quite different when they emegre from the yard.
Here is the link with the images of how the ships will look when they enter service with Marine Atlantic.
http://www.marineatlantic.ca/en/fleet/conceptdrawings.pdf
It seems that they will be shortened by 12.5 meters
The yet to be renamed Stena Hollandica has arrived at Remontowa yard in Gdansk for an extensive rebuild , new superstructure will be added as the ships passenger space is extended , A high number of cabins will be added and new public areas created , all existing cabins and public spaces will be refurbished and rearranged.
New docking ramps and new loading equipment will also be added as the car/freight area's will be rearranged to suit its new route.
Below from www.Remontowa.pl the Stena Hollandica arriving at Remontowa , Gdansk.
It is expected that the former Stena Hollandica will become Stena Germanica , the current Stena Germanica will then be renamed and will replace either Finnarrow or Stena Baltica on Gdynia - Karlskrona service , it is not yet known which of the Polish tonnage will be replaced first.
Stena Lines fast-craft service between Fishguard & Rosslare resumes on Saturday
the 10th of July with 11.30hrs departure from Fishguard, returning from Rosslare
@ 15.00hrs. The vessel is currently in Dun Laoghaire at a lay-by berth and is
due in Fishguard on Monday the 28th of June.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IrishSeaShips/message/27754
Hopefully the reliability issues will be resolved by the time it goes back on the route.
Further to above , when displaced by the former Stena Hollandica , Stena Germanica will become Stena Vision and replace Finnarrow on the Karlskrona - Gydnia service , it will be followed by the Stena Scandinavica which will become Stena Spirit and replace Stena Baltica.
Stena Germanica II nearing completion in Poland, AIS is switched on and also the AIS for the new Stena Britanica is switched on in the shipyard in Wismar.
Pics below of the Germanica II
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?mmsi=245340000#top_photo
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/stena_germanica_III_2001_b_1.htm
Its amazing what some fresh paint and a new logo can do for a ship.
More information from Stena on the rebuilds for Sweden here
http://www.hotellfartyg.se/#/en
The Stena Trader will be withdrawn for transfer to Marine Atlantic at the end of september with the Stena Traveller following at the end of November.
Grimaldi's Corragio will take over the service from Killingholme - Hook of Holland until the new Stena Transit arrives in October , Finnarrow which will be displaced by the Stena Germanica III will take over from Stena Traveller until the new Stena Transporter arrives in Febuary 2011.
The "New" Stena Germanica has arrived in Gothenburg, Sweden prior to entry into service. Looks like an impressive refit and rebuild was done in Poland.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?mmsi=266331000
More Pictures here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stenaline/4909970066/
As above , The new Stena Germanica has entered service.
Below from www.shipspotting.com , both Stena Germanica's at Kiel
The Stena Lynx III has arrived in Dun Laoghaire having finished its summer operation on Rosslare - Fishguard , the Lynx will take up the Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead service on 14th September and the HSS Stena Explorer will again be mothballed for the winter months.
The former Stena Germanica has arrived at Remontowa for refurbishment and will become Stena Vision before entering service on Karlskrona - Gydnia service.
The new Stena Britannica will enter service on Harwich - Hook of Holland service on 9th October with the former Stena Britannica (soon to be Stena Scandinavica) heading to Remontowa the same day.
The Stena Carrier which has been made surplus on the Kiel - Gothenburg service by the arrival of the new Stena Germanica (ex Stena Hollandica) has entered service on the Harwich - Rotterdam service displacing Stena Transfer , it is not yet known where Stena Transfer will be deployed next.
Below from www.shipspotting.com The former Stena Germanica (soon to be Stena Vision) the Stena Britannica (soon to be Stena Scandinavica) the Stena Carrier and the now redundant Stena Transfer.
All new Stena Britannica currently undergoing sea trials in the Wismar area due to arrive on the Harwich route in early October.
Stena Vision still showing as berthed in Gothenburg at the moment.
Will Stena Transfer head to the Irish Sea for the Fleetwood operations ?
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?mmsi=235080274
All new Stena Britannica has arrived in Rotterdam in preparation for starting service on Saturday. The original Stena Britannica has been renamed Britannica.
Pictures of the current vessel on this site
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/5057577028/in/set-72157625108299550/
New Ship in Harwich undergoing berthing trials from Marine Traffic.com
and from
http://harwichhavenshipsandyachts.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2042#2042
QuoteAll new Stena Britannica currently undergoing sea trials in the Wismar area due to arrive on the Harwich route in early October.
Stena Vision still showing as berthed in Gothenburg at the moment.
Will Stena Transfer head to the Irish Sea for the Fleetwood operations ?
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?mmsi=235080274
The Stena Partner and Stena Transfer are, apparently, to be sold for scrap and would be too large for Fleetwood anyway.
The Stena Trader has left the Killingholme - Hook of Holland service and has been replaced by Coraggio which is on charter from Grimaldi until late 2011 , Stena Trader will head to drydock to be shortened and modified for its long term charter to Marine Atlantic.
The Stena Seafarer was switched to the Belfast - Stranraer service to cover for Stena Navigator which was forced to drydock early due to ongoing technical problems with the vessel .
There has been a rumor circulating that Stena Europe may transfer to Belfast to replace Stena Navigator early should the Stena Europe be released from the Rosslare - Fishguard service in the near future.
Below from www.shipspotting.com , Coraggio , Stena Trader and Stena Seafarer , and from www.faktaomfartyg.se , Stena Navigator.
There is virtually no way the Stena Europe would come to Belfast - the double deck linkspans at both Belfast and Stranraer are in no way suitable for the ship. Problems with the Stena Navigator should be sorted now and she will, according to Stena, remain in service with the Stena Caledonia and HSS Stena Voyager until autumn 2011 when the new port is opened at Loch Ryan and two newer larger and faster conventional ferries enter service.
Stena Caledonia is temporarily being used as a stern loader only after failure of the hydrolic rams in its bow door , given the age of the vessel replacment parts are no longer available so the existing rams have been removed and sent for reconditioning , it is not known how long the bow door will be out of use.
Below , the Stena Caledonia from www.shipspotting.com
The Stena Vision has left Gothenburg after a major refit to begin service on the Karlskrona-Gydinia route.
Picture and details from this site:
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=17504.90
The former Stena Britannica was damaged by an accidental fire while undergoing its transformation into the new Stena Scandinavica at Remontowa , the repairs will add another 4 weeks to the overhaul time.
Below from www.shipspotting.com , the former Stena Britannica.
As noted elsewhere Stena Line has aquired the Belfast - Heysham and Belfast - Birkenhead services from DFDS Seaways , the 3 ports are included in the sale.
Vessels transfering from DFDS are Scotia Seaways and Hibernia Seaways , chartered Lagan Seaways and Mersey Seaways also transfer to Stena Line who intends to purchase them from their leassors.
Stena Line have also announced the closure of the Larne - Fleetwood service , the 3 vessels on that service , Stena Seafarer , Stena Pioneer and Stena Leader are all expected to be sold after the closure of the route , however Stena Seafarer is expected to cover for the refit of Stena Europe before disposal.
As mentioned above Stena Europe will head for refit in early febuary , after running on 3 engines for the best part of a year , a new engine block for Stena Europe is currently being machined for installation during refit.
Below from www.shipspotting.com (at least 2 of these excellent photo's are taken by regular contributors to this site) , commings and goings at Stena Line , entering the fleet are Scotia Seaways , Maersk Importer (currently Hibernia Seaways) , Lagan Seaways and Mersey Viking (currently Mersey Seaways) and leaving the fleet are Stena Leader , Stena pioneer and Stena Seaways , and soon to be refitted Stena Europe
The Stena Trader is now known as the Blue Puttees and here are some pictures of the ship after its shortening and the addition of extra passenger accomodation.
Images Taken from
http://www.vesseltracker.com/de/ShipPhotos/658209-Stena-Trader-9331177.html
and
http://www.forum-schiff.de/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=49773#p49773
and for an explanation of the new name, some details on the Marine Atlantic site:
http://www.marine-atlantic.ca/en/fleet/index.shtml
Stena Explorer has arrived at Harland & Wolff for refit , once complete it is thought that it will cover for Stena Voyager while that ship goes for refit.
Below from www.shipspotting.com , the Stena Explorer
STENA EXPLORER will NOT cover for the STENA VOYAGER'S refit. STENA EXPLORER arrived at Harland and Wolff on Tuesday 7th December and is expected to be in drydock for around 2 weeks. It is unsure where she will go after her refit.
STENA VOYAGER will finish service for drydocking at Harland and Wolff on Tuesday 4th January and not return until
Friday 21st January, during this time a slightly revised schedule will operate on the Belfast-Stranraer route;
BELFAST-STRANRAER
0330, 0730, 1230, 1845, 2230
STRANRAER-BELFAST
0330, 0830, 1430, 1830, 2330
QuoteStena Explorer will NOT cover for the Stena Voyager's refit. Stena Explorer arrived at Harland and Wolff on Tuesday 7th December and is expected to be in drydock for around 2 weeks. It is unsure where she will go after her refit.
Stena Voyager will be drydocked from 5th January, presumably for around 2 weeks also. There will be no cover provided for her on the Stranraer service.
That is very interesting that there will be no cover for fastcraft operationas at Belfast while Stena Voyager is overhauled.
There has been some speculation that Stena Explorer will join Stena Discovery in Central America but there has been no confirmation of this , however , if this turns out to be the case then it would spell the end of fastcraft operations at Rosslare as the Stena Lynx III would be unavailable to the route.
In this event all eyes will then be on Stena Voyager to see if she switches to Dun Laoghaire when HSS operations finish with the move from Stranraer.
Stena are shifting away from fastcraft focus on the North Channel route in preparation for the move to the new Loch Ryan Port next year.
Load factors currently don't support the fastcraft operation at Rosslare, so I'd say the focus of the Lynx II would remain at Dun Laoghaire or Dublin depending on what happens with Dun Laoghaire Harbour!
With the entry into service of Stena Vision on the Karlskrona - Gydinia service , chartered Finnarrow has switched to the Killingholme - Rotterdam service to release Stena Traveller for refit and shortening before transfer to Marine Atlantic
Below from www.shipspotting.com the Finnarrow departing Rotterdam
Stena Explorer has arrived back in Holyhead after its two week refit, possibly sporting some slightly revised Stena Line branding!.
Stena Leader has been withdrawn from the Larne-Fleetwood service, the remaining vessels on that service finish on the 24th December.
I saw STENA EXPLORER towards the end of her refit in Belfast last week and her livery was as it has always been.
STENA LEADER has been laid up in Belfast, at Albert Quay (the old Stena Terminal) and is expected to be joined by STENA PIONEER on Friday. STENA SEAFARER will cover some refits in the new year (STENA EUROPE's in February and possibly some others), but it is unsure where she will spend the Christmas and New Year holiday period.
It is Stena Line's stated intention to send the Fleetwood vessels for scrap after February, by which time it is hoped full clearance will have been given for their takeover of DFDS Seaways' Belfast-Heysham and Birkenhead operations.
STENA CALEDONIA entered a 'wet' Belfast Drydock on Saturday 4th December to have the hydraulic rams replaced on her bow visor - a procedure that took only a few hours after a 9 week wait for parts! She is now operating fully as a drive-through ship once again.
Stena Traveller in dry dock at Lloyd Werft, ready to be reduced in size and this as well:
Stena Traveller: 12/15/2010 - 31/01/2011
Shortening by 12.8 m
Increase in passenger capacity from 350 to 1,000 passengers
Enlargement of the structures for 31 crew cabins,
Construction of three lounges with reclining seats and Bar
additional 5 cabins for disabled
two additional MES-slides and two additional lifeboats
An additional lift and staircases
a bow door
an additional ramp
an additional suspension for passenger deck on deck 3
an additional bow thrusters
http://www.forum-schiff.de/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3054
STENA PIONEER arrived in Belfast on Christmas Eve morning and laid up at the H&W ship repair quay with the STENA LEADER due to be joined by STENA SEAFARER at Stena's old terminal (Albert Quay) this afternoon...
Some photos of the STENA LEADER and STENA PIONEER in lay-up are at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey
Details of sailings for 2011
DunLaoghaire - Holyhead;
STENA LYNX III will work the route from 01/04/11 until 26/05/11
STENA EXPLORER will work the route from 27/05/11 until mid-Sept at least (the timetable doesn't go any further than 13/09/11
Departures for both vessels will be once a day ex Holyhead at 1000, ex DunLaoghaire at 1315
Rosslare - Fishguard;
STENA EUROPE will operate until 05/02/11
STENA SEAFARER will operate from 06/02/11 until 16/02/11
STENA EUROPE will return on 17/02/11
STENA LYNX III will work the route from 01/07/11 until 04/09/11
Fastcraft departures will be ex Fishguard 1100 and ex Rosslare 1500
Dublin Port - Holyhead
STENA ADVENTURER and STENA NORDICA look to be as 2010
Belfast-Stranraer
All schedules as 2010 until the end of September when it is stated times will be subject to change due to relocation to the new Loch Ryan Port. STENA CALEDONIA is expected to overhaul from 1st March for approx 2 weeks, it is expected she will drydock at Harland and Wolff. Presumably STENA SEAFARER will cover for her absence, by which time more will have become clear regarding the Stena/DFDS deal and the future of the 3 Fleetwood ships.
Stena Leader has joined Stena Pioneer (alongside) in long-term lay-up at the H&W Ship repair quay in Belfast.
Stena Seafarer is still fully crewed and in comission, berthed at Stena's old Belfast Terminal ready to cover for the overhaul of Stena Europe in February, possibly Stena Caledonia in March and maybe even at Dublin...
Some photos I took today in Belfast of the Stena Pioneer and Stena Leader laid up together and the Stena Seafarer at the old berth;
The Stena Europe's overhaul for 2011 has been changed according to ,
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IrishSeaShips/message/28600
The scheduled 2011 refit in Falmouth for Stena Line Stena Europe has been
changed to Harland and Wolff, Belfast from Sunday 6th of February for a period
of 6 to 8 days. The original plan was to replace no 4 Main engine but due to
delays in the building of the new engine block, this has been put back to a
later date.
mv.stena europe will return to harland and wolff
belfast for about five days in early april,to have a new engine block
installed.mv.stena seafarer to cover fishguard -rosslare route on both
occasions.
The all new Stena Transporter has left Korea on its delivery voyage to Holland.
Yesterday the Stena Transporter by the Samsung shipyard in South Korea transferred to Stena Line. As of March 1 will be deployed on the Stena Transporter line Hoek van Holland - Killingholme.
The Stena Transporter departs on January 22 from South Korea. Expected to arrive on February 24 the ship in Hoek van Holland. First, the ship to the Damen shipyard in Schiedam go for the finishing touch. Later this year, a sister ship delivered.
The Stena Stena Transporter is of type Seabridger mkII and has a length of 212 meters, can carry 300 passengers and 4,050 meters of rolling stock. The ship has installed 21,600 kW and a gross tonnage of 31,000 measurement tons.
After ordering new ships for the route Hoek van Holland - Killingholme Stena Line has the old ships, the Stena Traveller (BY. 2008) and her sister ship the Stena Trader (BY. 2006), hired by Marine Atlantic. Before the ships are shortened and converted for service in Canada, see news item 's Stena RoRo vessels converted for Canada . The ships have been replaced by the chartered Coraggio (BY. 2007) and chartered Finnarrow (BY. 1996). The Finn Arrow will be replaced by the new Transporter. The Coraggio will then be replaced by the new sister ship of the Trader.
The first sailing of the Stena Transporter expected to take place on March 1 next from Hook of Holland at 21:00.
http://www.veerbootinfo.nl/2011/01/stena-transporter-overgedragen-aan-stena-line/
STENA LINE AND DFDS SITUATION UPDATE
I travelled on the Lagan Seaways and Mersey Seaways over the past days and the following letter was given to passengers explaining the current situation regarding the purchase by Stena Line;
Dear Customer,
Re: Stena Line Irish Sea Ferries Ltd. (SL ISF)
I write to update you about what is happening in the business since Stena Line UK Ltd completed its acquisition of DFDS Seaways Irish Sea Ferries Ltd (since renames Stena Line Irish Sea Ferries Ltd.) and the related operating ferry services on the Liverpool/Belfast and Heysham/Belfast routes (the "acquired business"), on the 1st December 2010. Although the acquisition of SL ISF by Stena Line has been completed and DFDS no longer owns SL ISF, we are awaiting formal approval from the UK and Irish competition authorities to integrate SL ISF into the wider Stena Line business.
Stena Line has given commitments to the Office of Fair Trading ("OFT") that the SL ISF business will not be integrated into the rest of the Stena Line route network for as long as the competition review process is ongoing in the UK. This means that SL ISF will continue to operate and compete as an independent ferry company until approval has been granted by the competition authorities, as Stena Line should be viewed as a competitor of SL ISF until that time.
The OFT has permitted Stena Line to take certain steps towards integration of the two businesses, in order to ensure the continued good management and smooth operation of SL ISF. In this respect over the coming weeks, SL ISF will transition to using the Stena Line brand. This means all vessels, signage, vehicles, uniforms, printing and stationery bearing a reference to DFDS will gradually be changed to show the Stena Line insignia. We hope this does not cause too much confusion whilst this transition is taking place and would stress that SL ISF nevertheless remains independent of Stena Line until approval has been granted by the competition authorities.
In addition, as part of the agreement reached between DFDS and Stena Line, DFDS and SL ISF continue to share a number of services for a transitional period until both parties have been able to introduce their own replacement arrangements. As an example DFDS will continue to provide Finance and Online booking services to SL ISF until further notice and conversely SL ISF will provide passenger and freight call centre services to DFDS>
In the meantime it is business as usual for our customers using the Liverpool-Belfast and Heysham-Belfast routes and therefore please continue to book online at www.dfdsseaways.com or telephone on 0871 230 0330 (UK) or 01 819 2999 (ROI)
We would like to thank all our customers for their continued support.
Yours sincerely
Diane Poole OBE
Passenger Services Director
Stena Line Irish Sea Ferries Ltd
I should also point out that all announcements onboard made reference to Stena Line Irish Sea Ferries and that much of the signage on the ships incuded both DFDS and Stena Line branding!
Keeping the newly aquired buisness seperate until it is cleared with the OFT is standard practice within the Transport industry in general (and many other industries also) however I cant see any reason why the deal would be refered to the Monopoly's and Mergers Commission so Stena Line should be able to intergrate the former DFDS operation into its own operation before too long.
On a seperate issue , anyone who has booked to travel aboard the Stena Transporter and is not aware that there is a new vessel bearing that name is in for a pleasent surprise :)
As the Stena Europe heads for dry docking next weekend in Belfast, I was wondering will it receive the full Stena Line "Making Good Time" green wave branding that most of the Stena ships now have ? and there is a huge amount of space available to put it onto the Europe, also will the funnel be repainted as it is now clearly showing the old Lion Ferry yellow paint in quite a few places !
Amazing how the ship has been able to keep time over the last year while running on 75% of available engine power, as far as I know with the engines on the Europe they are either on or off, there is no throttling back to reduce speed, you just turn engines off to slow down and switch more on to speed up, the bridge team and engineers have had their work cut out to maintain the schedule.
Stena Line have published revised schedules today for their Belfast-Stranraer route. These include the refit period for STENA CALEDONIA between 1st and 10th March (at H&W) when the STENA SEAFARER will operate in her place at;
ex Belfast - 0500 and 1920
ex Stranraer - 0030 and 0930
The HSS STENA VOYAGER will operate from 25th Feb. For most of the year, apart from July and August as well as Fridays and Sundays all year round, she will onlp work 1 round trip daily - ex Belfast 1145 and ex Stranraer 1955.
Information at -
http://www.stenaline.co.uk/ferry/routes/belfast-stranraer/timetable
The Britannica's AIS is now switched back on, still alongside the dock in Rementowa.
She is expected to enter service in late April as the Stena Scandinavica rejoining former running mate Stena Germanica (formerly Stena Hollandica) on the Gothenburg route.
Image of the vessel on fire taken from marinetraffic.com.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?mmsi=235547000
The Stena Traveller's conversion is nearly finished, now renamed Highlanders and will enter service for Marine Atlantic in Canada.
http://www.vesseltracker.com/de/ShipPhotos/692716-Stena-Traveller-9331189.html
Stena Europe due into H&W Belfast today, the refit running late due to bad weather at the weekend.
... and here she is arriving at Belfast at lunchtime today, meeting Stena Navigator on her 1230 departure to Stranraer...
... and entering the dry dock in the company of laid up Fleetwood sisters, Stena Leader and Stena Pioneer with the Birkenhead ferry, Mersey Seaways in the background berthed at Victoria Terminal 2
That's an outstanding shot of Stena Europe and Stena Navigator passing each other , its one of those pictures you would think to be impossible to capture , well done DrScott1980.
Stena Line has aquired the former DFDS Seaways vessel Dublin Seaways for €24 million , it is thought to be for North Sea routes.
Below from www.shipspotting.com Stena Line's latest aquasition
Great picture of the Europe passing the Navigator. Hard to repeat that.
The new Stena Transporter on its delivery voyage from Korea, was in Cape Town bunkering today.
Pictures from Shipspotting.com
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1251363
The UK's Office Of Fair Trading has refered Stena Line's aquasition of DFDS Seaways Irish Sea operations to the competition Commission, it seems they believe that Stena Line would have not closed its Larne - Fleetwood service had it not aquired the DFDS services , see http://www.oft.gov.uk/news-and-updates/press/today?prid=774560 for further details.
Quoteit seems they believe that Stena Line would have not closed its Larne - Fleetwood service had it not aquired the DFDS services
Perhaps not, but given what happened to the DFDS Dublin routes I think it's a safe bet the same fate was in store for the Belfast routes if Stena hadn't taken them on.
Assuming the Fleetwood service was the smaller operation, preferable that it went (in terms of jobs lost etc) than the Liverpool / Heysham routes, I would've thought.
There can be little doubt that the Larne-Fleetwood route would have closed given the age of the ships and their deteriorating mechanical condition, the difficulties involved in navigating the narrow and shallow Wyre channel leading to the port of Fleetwood and that Stena had been unable to come up with a viable design for new-build vessels that would be suitable for the route...
The former Stena Traveller ready for service as Highlanders for Marine Atlantic. New construction clearly visible at the rear of the superstructure expanding passenger capacity from 350 to 1,000 passengers.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?mmsi=244513000
So strange, the new Stena Transporter in the old/former Stena-livery... :-?
I myself was somewhat surprised by the OFT referal of the Stena/DFDS deal , I suppose I should not have been as I have seen this before in the Bus industry , the Competition Commission has a long history of displaying a complete lack of understanding of how the transport industry operates , the CC is more suited to dealing with large retailers and manufacturers , the fact that they believe that both the Stena Line operation and the DFDS operation would have carried on as they were is a clear indication of this.
While I am sorry to see DFDS leave the Irish sea , I believe that Stena Line taking on some of the routes was the best option possible in the current climate , and as others have said the writing has been on the wall for the Larne - Fleetwood service for some time now , I would hope that the CC does not hold up the intergration of the DFDS services into Stena Lines operation by too much as a lenghty delay could force Stena Line to reconsider its position leading to the loss of further ships and jobs on the Irish Sea.
I see the Stena Europe has returned to the Rosslare route with no change to the exterior paintwork.
They might get around to updating the exterior graphics to "Making Good Time" when it goes back to H&W to have the engine replaced.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/5451316157/
Image of the Stena Europe after refit in H&W Belfast taken in Rosslare and posted on Marine Traffic.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?mmsi=235004539
STENA SEAFARER operated the 2230 ex Belfast and 0400 ex Stranraer Sunday evening/Monday morning as the STENA CALEDONIA's 1730 departure from Stranraer was held to operate at 2130, in order to enable Rugby Supporters to travel back from Murrayfield. HSS STENA VOYAGER returned to service (proper) on Friday with the 1145 ex Belfast and will operate two round trips daily until STENA CALEDONIA returns from refit, after which the HSS will sail most days at 1145 ex Belfast and 1955 ex Stranraer only.
STENA CALEDONIA will enter Harland and Wolff's Belfast Drydock early on Tuesday for a ten day refit which is expected to be her last overhaul at the yard where she was built 30 years ago. Her place will be taken by STENA SEAFARER on the Stranraer service on the following schedule;
1900 ex Belfast (except Sat when she operates at 2230)
2359 ex Stranraer
0430 ex Belfast
0930 ex Stranraer (except Sun when she operates at 0430)
STENA CALEDONIA resumes service with the 0330 ex Belfast on Friday 11th March.
The Britannica has been moved into drydock in Rementowa to complete the overhaul delayed by the fire.
Image below from Vesseltracker
http://www.vesseltracker.com/en/ShipPhotos/710189-Britannica-9235517.html
Where was the fire, was there a lot of damage?
Picture in Post #99 of the Britannica on fire in the shipyard.
As noted elsewhere Stena Line are to aquire Superfast VII and Superfast VIII from Tallink on a 3-4 year charter for its Belfast - Cairnryan service with delivery expected in October and entering service in November.
The new Stena Transporter has entered service on the Hoek Van Holland - Killingsholme service displacing the Finnarrow which is to be returned to Finnlines as its charter is at an end.
Below from www.shipspotting.com , the Superfast VII and Superfast VIII , the Finnarrow and the new Stena Transporter.
and with all the focus on 'new' ships for the North Channel, the Stena Leader and Stena Pioneer continue to languish at Harland and Wolff while the Stena Seafarer covers for Stena Caledonia's refit.
Here's a photo of the three former Fleetwood sisters together at Belfast today
New Stena Line Commercial for UK and Irish market.
Don't think we will see those ships featured at the end on the Irish Sea anytime soon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A__SzOX9QXQ&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/user/Stenaline#p/u/2/3b2ttbzPCDY
Ironically I think quite a bit of the commercial was filmed on the HSS vessels, I might be wrong but it does look like the HSS.
STENA NAVIGATOR operated the first in a series of Saturday afternoon Belfast Lough cruises yesterday in lieu of her 1330 sailing ex Belfast and 1730 sailing ex Stranraer which have been removed from the timetable on Saturdays until the peak season. She then worked a 1700 departure ex Belfast and 2200 from Stranraer while the STENA CALEDONIA operated her usual 2000 ex Belfast and 2359 ex Stranraer. HSS STENA VOYAGER does not operate at 1430 ex Stranraer and 1700 ex Belfast except on Fridays and Sundays at this time of year, so spends most of the day alongside at Stranraer following arrival on her 1145 ex Belfast until her 1955 return sailing.
As STENA NAVIGATOR was operating her evening round trip to Scotland, STENA SEAFARER was called in to work the 2230 ex Belfast and 0445 ex Stranraer this morning (Sunday).
SCOTIA SEAWAYS spent Saturday alonsgide at the ship repair quay at Harland and Wolff having Stena Line colours applied to her funnel. This means all four former DFDS/Norfolkline vessels now have full Stena Line funnels...
And, the new TV commercial was filmed onboard the HSS STENA VOYAGER while she was off service in Jan/Feb alongside at Belfast
The Britannica, now renamed Stena Scandinavica has been floated out of dry dock in Gdansk in the latest Stena Line Livery.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?mmsi=235547000#top_photo
The Stena Europe is going off service later this week for the engine replacement that they were unable to carry out during the refit in Belfast.
Wonder will they finish the exterior graphics with the blue wave and "making good time" branding this time ?
http://www.stenaline.ie/ferry/routes/rosslare-fishguard/timetable/
Please Note : Essential Maintenance of the Stena Europe 29 March to 7 April 2011
The last sailing ex Rosslare will be the 09.00 hrs on Tue 29 March and the Stena Europe will commence operation on Thurs 7 April with the 21.15 hrs sailing.
The last sailing ex Fishguard will be the 14.30 hrs on Tue 29 March and the Stena Europe will commence operation on Thurs 7 April with the 14.30 hrs sailing.
Stena Seafarer is heading for Rosslare to provide cover while the Stena Europe goes to Falmouth for its mechanical work.
Stena Europe has arrived in Falmouth for the engine replacement.
http://www.nmmc.co.uk/index.php?/justvisiting/webcams/falmouth_harbour_from_the_tower_out_to_sea
STENA ADVENTURER is expected to refit at Harland and Wolff around 8th June for 2 weeks, during which time it is believed NORMAN TRADER will be brought in to cover (this ship is currently enroute to Dublin and expected to cover P&O refits on the Liverpool-Dublin route from next week).
During the Adventurer's refit it is possible that HSS STENA EXPLORER will operate 2 daily round trips to cover, together with STENA NORDICA and NORMAN TRADER (TBC)
It would seem that arrangements for the location of STENA ADVENTURER's refit are still unconfirmed and it looks like she could be heading to Lairds at Birkenhead and not Harland and Wolff. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
The Stena Europe has left Falmouth this morning and is on the way back to Fishguard, after getting its technical work carried out.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?mmsi=235004539
The Britannica has now been renamed Stena Scandinavica 4 on AIS and should be departing the Gdansk shipyard in the next few days prior to taking up service on the Gothenborg Kiel service alongside the Stena Germanica, allowing the current Stena Scandinavica to be refitted and then renamed Stena Spirit which will then replace the Stena Baltica on the Karlskrona Gdynia service.
Thus raising the question of where next for the Stena Baltica, will it be the Irish Sea replacing the Stena Europe on the Rosslare Fishguard route, the Dublin- Holyhead route replacing the Stena Nordica, replacing the hideous Stena Natica on the Grena - Varberg route !!!!! or maybe for sale to help offset some the millions Stena have spent this year.
Stena Scandinavica 4 has left Gdansk and is on the way to Gothenburg.
It called to the port of Kiel and carried out berthing trials as well.
http://www.kn-online.de/lokales/kiel/227249-Neue-Stena-Faehre-im-Kieler-Hafen-gesichtet.html
New Stena ferry
sighted in the port of Kiel
Kiel - The next big ship in Kiel: put only a few hours on Wednesday morning, the new Stena Scandinavica IV "at the port. It was a successful test with a special meeting. A A A
The new "Stena Scandinavica IV" has passed its test launch in the port of Kiel. For nearly 90 minutes, the ferry was laid on the morning Schwedenkai. Shortly after 5 clock, the largest Ro-Pax ferry pushed the Baltic Sea to the berth. The ship arrived from the Polish Remontowa shipyard, where it had been obsolete since November and rebuilt.
New cabins were built and carried out a major overhaul. At the trial start in Kiel, the gangway ramps and tested. Also examined the German authorities, the certificates. All this took about 90 minutes. Shortly after 7 clock put the new ferry again and headed for Gothenburg.
A little later it came on the Kiel Fjord in front of Laboe to a rare encounter. The outgoing "Stena Scandinavica IV passed the next half-sister from Gothenburg Stena Germanica," which runs from September to the Kiel-Gothenburg route.
Wherever the STENA ADVENTURER goes for her refit, looks like she'll need a bit of 'panel beating.' I took this pic at Holyhead on 27th March :(
Looks like the Adventurer will be heading for refit at Cammel Laird, Birkenhead on 8th June for 12-14 days. Apparently, one of the main jobs is to complete the application of the new Stena Line livery including blue wave and 'Making Good Time'
QuoteLooks like the Adventurer will be heading for refit at Cammel Laird, Birkenhead on 8th June for 12-14 days. Apparently, one of the main jobs is to complete the application of the new Stena Line livery including blue wave and 'Making Good Time'
June? Odd time for a refit...
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June? Odd time for a refit...
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Yes, apparently this is to allow the paintwork to be completed in better weather which was the main reason this wasn't finished at Belfast in 2009...
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Not that odd I suppose if she needs cover and the Explorer is only operating til mid-September.
The new Stena Scandinavica IV enters service on the 19th April, replacing the Stena Scandinavica on the route. Also in Gothenborg the HSS 900 Stena Carisma has received a fresh coat of paint and a different interpretation of the new Stena Line branding. If fuel prices were a lot cheaper the Irish Sea based HSS 1500's would probably have revamped in a similar way to this, instead they have apparently been listed for sale with a ship brokers:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IrishSeaShips/message/29225
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?mmsi=266343000#top_photo
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Not that odd I suppose if she needs cover and the Explorer is only operating til mid-September.[/quote]
STENA ADVENTURER will be covered by NORMAN TRADER during her refit and STENA EXPLORER will, apparently, operate 2 daily round trips for the 12-14 day period...
QuoteIf fuel prices were a lot cheaper the Irish Sea based HSS 1500's would probably have revamped in a similar way to this, instead they have apparently been listed for sale with a ship brokers:
Couple of things strike me as strange.
1/ Explorer is listed as being built in 1997, when it entered service in 1996. You'd think the details would have to be correct.
2/ Why did Stena bring back the Explorer earlier this year than last year, when it could equally well have reduced the season even more, before pulling it altogether? If it's going to use the Lynx next year and it used it last year, why use the Explorer at all this year?
3/ Whatever happened to the Discovery? Did it ever begin a new life in South Amerca? It's story isn't exactly great PR for a potential HSS1500 buyer.
It would be interesting to see the original business plan for the HSS1500s; it's original estimated lifespan, and passenger estimates compared to reality, albeit due to circumstances that might have been difficult to forsee at the time, eg low cost airlines, removal of duty free, much increased fuel prices etc. Shame they didn't build a couple more HSS900s instead, which must be similar in size to the IF Swift. Talking of which, is she holding her own these days? Presumably doing more business now than ever before with such limited competition from a Stena fastcraft.
The HSS has been a resounding success in terms of reliability , service , and comfort , in terms of life expectancy I think Stena originally talked about 35-45 years depending on circumstances.
Passenger numbers are in line with what Stena Line expected , however what has killed the HSS (in Stena Lines eyes anyway) is its fuel consumption , the HSS has turned out to be somewhat of a Concorde in so far as the ships have advanced maratime technology and contributed to extensive reasearch in aquadynamics , but as a commercial concern it is not a runner at todays fuel prices , when the HSS moved from the drawing boards to the model testing stage fuel was $12 a barrel , when the 1st HSS entered service fuel was $18 a barrel , today fuel is $118 a barrel and climbing.
A good comparison would be between Stena Explorer and Stena Europe , the Stena Europe burns 12 tons f fuel every 24 hours , if Stena Explorer were to operate Stena Europes timetable it would burn 96 tons of fuel every 24 hours.
Ulitmatly the HSS's will do well operating in any of the worlds remaining cheap fuel regions , but unless there is a dramatic shift downwards in fuel prices the HSS will become Europes Concorde of the seas.
STENA EXPLORER operating as normal again today after being out of service since Sunday with generator problems...
From 9th to 22nd June she will work 2 return sailings daily to cover for the STENA ADVENTURER's refit at Cammell Laird, Birkenhead;
0855 ex Holyhead - 1125 ex Dun Laoghaire
1400 ex Holyhead - 1630 ex Dun Laoghaire
NORMAN TRADER will be employed to cover for STENA ADVENTURER but will not, it seems, be available for tourist traffic...
These times seem a bit silly to me, but presumably there are practical reasons.
The 8.55am duplicates the 8.20am from Holyhead. The 4.30pm duplicates the 4pm from Dublin. Then there are huge gaps.
It was a bit like in times gone by when the 1345 Holyhead to Dun Laoghaire duplicated the 1430 Holyhead to Dublin and the 2130 Dun Laoghaire to Holyhead duplicated the 2115 Dublin to Holyhead.
According to reports on FONE, The former Dublin Seaways now renamed Stena Ferronia, has been charted to DFDS (who Stena bought the ship from) for use on Klaipeda - Karlshamn route alongside the Liverpool Seaways.
""The owner DFDS Seaways announced the launch of the ferry M / V Stena Feronia on
line Klaipeda - Karlshamn. Ferry will replace a smaller unit of m / v Lisco
Patria, which for years supported a ferry connection. Stena Feronia was focused
on the connection between Sweden and Lithuania due to strong demand in the feet
of cargo. Hand in hand with another ferry Liverpool Seaways (formerly in the
colors of the Norfolk line as Liverpool Viking) will handle the connection in
ca³otygodniowym distribution.
Stena Feronia was built in 1997, is 186 m long and reaches a top speed of 19
knots. Previously, the ferry sailed in the colors of the Norfolk line as the
"Dublin Viking" and DFDS as the "Dublin Seaways. Ferry has a long line of cargo
in 1940 I can carry 125 trailers and about 100 trucks and 50 passenger cars. It
has 72 passenger cabins with seating for 320 passengers.
COMMENT: She is now registered in Glasgow, suggesting Northern Marine are
managing agents..."
Image of the Stena Feronia from Vessel Tracker
Interesting video from Stena Ro Ro about the Stena Trader conversion available here:
http://www.stenaroro.com/activities/Pages/StenaTraderShortening.aspx
The Stena Danica has received a different version of the new Stena Line livery, the Curious George character has been included:
QuoteInteresting video from Stena Ro Ro about the Stena Trader conversion available here:
http://www.stenaroro.com/activities/Pages/StenaTraderShortening.aspx
That's really interesting (and well produced). I've never heard of a ship being shortened, fascinating to see how it was done. Good find!
STENA SEAFARER, STENA LEADER and STENA PIONEER have been sold to Russian interests for use during the 2014 Winter Olympic Games which are being held in Sochi on the Black Sea.
It is unclear what they will be used for, perhaps not as ferries and this also means they are now likely to see their 40th Birthdays!
The first ship departs from Belfast on 25th May
Interesting picture of Stena's latest purchase on the Kiel canal taken from Shippax.se (on its way to enter service with DFDS)
The Stena Lynx III has arrived on the Mersey for its annual overhaul being carried out at Cammell Laird.
Image from:
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?mmsi=309524000#top_photo
The Stena Jutlandica, a close relation to the Rosslare-Pembroke Isle of Inishmore has received its new paintjob and another variation on the Stena Line corporate branding.
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=20457.15
I see the Stena Fleetwood boats are still in Belfast, when are they due to leave for Russia, thought the first was due to leave on 25th May 2011, any update.
QuoteI see the Stena Fleetwood boats are still in Belfast, when are they due to leave for Russia, thought the first was due to leave on 25th May 2011, any update.
Still waiting... not sure when they will actually go.
Maybe we'll wake up some morning and they'll be gone.
The Stena Scandinavica soon to be Stena Spirit is currently being rebuilt in Gothenborg. Some great images detailing the rebuild available here:
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=20285.0
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=20497.0
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=20568.0
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=20675.0
STENA SEAFARER has now been renamed and is showing as ANT 1 on ais/marinetraffic...
All three vessels remain at Belfast for now, but have been handed over to new owners.
With the Spirit replacing the Stena Baltica presumably, is there any word yet what the future for the Baltica is?
After a recent sail rail from London-Rosslare via Fishguard, the super picture of the Felicity at the Fishguard ticket desk and the KB model at Rosslare got me thinking what is the long term outlook for tonnage on the route.
Bearing in mind that presumably the Europe can't go on forever, in 5 years time for instance what would peoples opinion be on what vessel will be serving the route.
Are we likely to see a vessel of the calibre of the Felicity or KB ever come back to the route, or do the economics of the route mean Stena Europe sized vessels remaining indefinetly.
QuoteSTENA SEAFARER has now been renamed and is showing as ANT 1 on ais/marinetraffic...
All three vessels remain at Belfast for now, but have been handed over to new owners.
STENA LEADER is now ANNA MARINE
QuoteQuoteSTENA SEAFARER has now been renamed and is showing as ANT 1 on ais/marinetraffic...
All three vessels remain at Belfast for now, but have been handed over to new owners.
STENA LEADER is now ANNA MARINE
Some photos of the STENA LEADER, STENA PIONEER and STENA SEAFARER at Belfast,
including a few showing the process of their name changing are available at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey
It would seem STENA SEAFARER is now ANT 2 and not ANT 1 as previously thought. She has been reflagged to Moldova (a land locked country!)
Provisional reports suggest STENA PIONEER is ANT 1, but I have been unable to ascertain whether this is confirmed or not...
The Stena Express is back in Dun Laoghaire (once again spoiling the across to Howth).
Nice to travel on, but fed up of this docking point becoming a semi-permanent mooring point.
confirmed;
STENA PIONEER is now ANT 1
STENA SEAFARER is now ANT 2
STENA LEADER is now ANNA MARINE
The vessels are Moldovan flagged, registered in Giurgiulesti.
It's reminiscent of the Explorer's better times to hear its horn blast before departure from Dun Laoghaire around 11am and 4pm whilst the Adventurer is on refit.
Talk of its imminent sale would suggest the next time the Adventurer is on refit, it will not be the Explorer that will be providing alternative sailings.
QuoteThe Stena Express is back in Dun Laoghaire.
...and now it's gone again...
ANT 1 (ex STENA PIONEER) has left Belfast Lough (destination Sevastapol, Ukraine on 28/6/11 at 0900), followed by ANNA MARINE (ex STENA LEADER) (destination Sevastapol, Ukraine on 1/7/11 at 1200) and ANT 2 (ex STENA SEAFARER) is still currently in Bangor Bay, but is expected to move shortly (destination Sevastapol, Ukraine 30/6/11 at 0800)
And thus ends a 35 year long era...
Some final photos of the Fleetwood ships at Belfast and at anchor in Bangor Bay are available at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey
The Stena Adventurer has finished its refit and repaint in Liverpool and is back in service again, another variation in the Stena Line livery with no blue wave or Making Good Time Branding.
Picture from marinetraffic.com
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?imo=9235529
The HSS Stena Explorer will revert to one return crossing daily from June 23rd, as the Stena Adventurer is now back in service
http://www.stenaline.ie/ferry/latest-sailing-information/dun-laoghaire-holyhead
**SPECIAL NOTICE**
* SCHEDULE CHANGE*
From Thurs June 23rd 2011 the sailing schedule will revert back to one sailing daily, departing from Dun Laoghaire at 13:15hrs
Some great images of the Explorer on this site:
http://www.drimnagh-road.com/010511irishsea.htm
Also a review of the vessel and many pictures of the exterior and interior on these two links:
http://stenaexplorer.blogspot.com/p/voyage-report-11611.html
http://stenaexplorer.blogspot.com/
Wind Turbines have been fitted to the Stena Jutlandica, details from
http://www.sjofartstidningen.se/nyheter/
As part of Stena Line's environmental efforts, the company has launched a unique pilot project. As the first passenger ferry in the world, Stena Jutlandica, ropaxfärjan serving the Gothenburg-Frederikshavn, equipped with two wind turbines in the bow as well as helping with energy security and reduce bunker consumption.
The trend to provide energy saving measures are mostly to be found below the waterline, such as hull shape and improved propellers, but This is the first idea where new thinking is reflected above water. The solution is based on two turbines mounted on four feet high must be placed on the foredeck. They are vertical, making them more energy efficient than traditional horizontal windmills. They together generate about 23,000 kW per year which is enough to include running lights on Stena Jutlandica tires. The location also contributes to air resistance is reduced, saving between 80 and 90 tonnes of fuel per year, with today's bunker prices, this means around 800,000 dollars.
- Stena Line is investing about one million dollars in this project and it will pay for itself in eight months, says Robert Akerlund, Director Technical & HR at Stena Line.
Profit is not only economical but also means reduced emissions. Carbon dioxide is reduced by 269 tons per year and sulfur by 1.7 tons per year.
- In our Energy Saving Programme, we operate approximately 200 environmental improvement projects and this is another very interesting project that we start in this context. Stena Line has a tradition of being at the forefront in the development of various types of new solutions, says Robert Akerlund.
The wind turbines have been delivered by American Urban Green Energy. Published: 2011-06-22 14:04
Images from Stena Line http://www.flickr.com/photos/stenaline/
Any rumours as to what'll happen after 13 September on the Dun Laoghaire to Holyhead route? Will the Lynx take over, or will Stena be conventional boat-only company after this time out of the Dublin area?
The Stena Spirit is due to begin service on the Karlskrone - Gydinia route, replacing the Stena Baltica this week. It has left Gothenburg and is expected to begin service tonight (27/06/11).
This is the final step in Stena's fleet movements which started when the Stena Hollandica entered service last year. The final destination of the Stena Baltica is unknown at the moment, will it reappear on the Irish Sea or another route or be sold ?
Image from
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=21008.0
Interesting video on the introduction of the new Stena Scandinavica and the change over here:
http://www.youtube.com/stenaline#p/u/14/4eMaiSUQx_w
Also the Stena Baltica has been drydocked and had a hull repaint in Landskrona, one wonders where it will end up next ? (picture from http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=21115.0)
Also the Stena Transit, the last new ship due on the north sea run is ready for sea trials in Korea (Picture from http://www.ferryvolution.com/2011/07/06/stena-transit-almost-ready-for-sea-trials/)
The Stena Baltica has been listed for sale and is available to view on this brokers site:
http://www.mondialbroker.com/boat.taf?B=294881&K=SRC
seems like it won't be coming back to the Irish Sea or replacing the Stena Nautica on the Varberg - Grena route.
Also available for sale on this site:
Stena Navigator
http://www.mondialbroker.com/detail.taf?B=287639&K=BPS
Stena Caledonia
http://www.mondialbroker.com/detail.taf?B=287638&K=BPS
which are due to be replaced in November by the Superfast VII and VIII which are due in Gdansk later this month to begin the conversion for the Stena Line north channel service.
Video on the lengthening of the previous Stena Hollandica now the New Stena Germanica on the Stena RoRo site
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/default.aspx
Click on video for fullscreen
Stena Nordica was transferred to the route that links Holyhead with Dublin in 2008. Her current port of registry is London, UK.
The Stena Baltica has been moved from Landskrona to lay up in the port of Lysekil, north of Gothenborg the vessel is available for charter or sale.
http://bohuslaningen.se/nyheter/lysekil/1.1331569-pampig-hyresgast-en-valkommen-syn-i-hamnen
The Stena Danica has had an engine replaced over the last weekend, I imagine a process similar to the Stena Europe's engine replacement earlier this year.
More images available here:
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=21631.0
The Stena Superfast VIII in Gdansk with the Superfast VII behind, undergoing conversion for service on the Irish North channel service starting in November.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?imo=9198953
Both Superfasts for the North Channel have now been renamed according to their ais, the pair are imaginatively titled Stena Superfast VII and Stena Superfast VIII.
Stena Superfast VIII alongside at the shipyard in Gdansk where the conversion for the North Channel service is being carried.
Image from http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?imo=9198953
A former Stena ship is heading for the breakers in Alang, India to be scrapped the Pride of Telemark (Sister ship to the current Stena Danica) the former Stena Jutlandica, Stena Empereur, Pride of Provence which has been laid up in Farsund for a few years has been sold to breakers.
http://www.varden.no/nyheter/pride-of-telemark-pa-vei-til-india-1.6455557
seems such a shame to scrap that ship, was there some major problems with it that forced this decision as it was relatively young compared to some other ships on the sea
The Pride of Telemark was inspected on behalf of Fastnet Line when they were still going through the ship selection proccess (Julia emerged as the successful canditate of that proccess) when surveyed the ship was found to be in very poor condition mechanically and her passenger facilities were at best life expired , a lot of money was going to be needed to bring the ship back to a reasonable condition, and this is all before it partially sank twice , it seems though that the low asking price for the ship has fallen below its scrap value and is now heading for the breakers , a pitty really as it was a fine ship during its Stena Line years.
Below from www.shipspotting.com , the Pride of Telemark on the first occassion where it began to take on water , there are better pictures of the ship submerged up to its bow superstructure but I have been unable to find them again.
point most definitely made, i knew she had some issues once through colliding with the harbour but do you have more details on her partial sinking incidents?
More Images of the Telemark in a spot of bother here:
http://www.ferry-site.dk/7907257.htm
and here
http://www.bfenthusiasts.com/forums/showthread.php?p=54899
some very recent images of the vessel here:
http://www.farsunds-avis.no/artikkel.asp?Artid=80939
and details of the accident here:
http://www.dma.dk/SiteCollectionDocuments/OKE/List-marine-accident-reports-per-year/pride-of-telemark-uk.pdf
and the sales sheet from the broker:
http://photo.mondialbroker.net/brokers/5997/_docs/237655_963636.pdf
such a shame to see it scrapped, its a rather nice ship
Indeed it is a pity to see the ship being broken up , here she is in her prime as Stena Jutlandica from www.shipspotting.com
i think she's a fantastic looking ship, i do wish they still made ships that looked like that today alas its just not the style any more really
Some more information and images of the Pride of Telemark available here:
http://www.doverferryphotos.co.uk/pastandpresent/prov.htm
Stena have released more information regarding the new Belfast - Cairnryan route starting in November, details at this address:
http://www.stenaline.co.uk/ferry/belfast-cairnryan/
Some interesting additions to the usual Irish Sea services, including a Taste Restaurant, Nordic Spa and Pod Lounge, looks quite interesting.
and the Stena Baltica remains laid up in Lysekil, Sweden. Some new images posted online:
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=21610.0
The Stena Lynx III has completed the summer schedule on the Rosslare - Fishguard route marketed as the Stena Express.
http://www.stenaline.ie/ferry/latest-sailing-information/rosslare-fishguard
The Stena Express Fast Ferry service will cease on this route on Sunday 04th September 2011.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?imo=9129328
One wonders will it return in 2012 or was that the final fast craft season for the Lynx III.
Artists impression of the new Stena Superfast twins has been released:
The Stena Lynx III arrived in Dun Laoghaire today for winter lay up. One wonders when or if she will see further service.
Any more word if Stena are planning any send-offs for the Voyager or Calie? Maybe a round the lough farewell or such like?
Also, any more detail on the modifications the Superfasts are getting in Poland? Looking forward to seeing them arrive...
i think the best theyll get these days is a few flags and a z list celebrity somewhere in the locality sadly, its all about business, i think the killian should have got a good send off instead of that it just didnt come back one day which seems to be the way most ships seem to go
According to Shippax the Stena Lynx III has been sold to operators in South Korea. It is also reported on FONE that it is to be renamed Sun Flower 2 ! and has possibly been sold to the same operator that bought the Stena Lynx now HSC Mandarin.
One thing is for certain, it won't be returning to the Rosslare- Fishguard route next season.
QuoteAny more word if Stena are planning any send-offs for the Voyager or Calie? Maybe a round the lough farewell or such like?
Navigator's sort-of getting a send-off:
QuoteStena Navigator Belfast Lough Cruise - the finale!
Enjoy a fun afternoon onboard the Stena Navigator on her last Belfast Lough cruise.
10 September, 13:30 - 17:00
(Don't have a high enough post-count to post a link to that, annoyingly...)
Quite tempted, Navigator would be my favourite of the three.
QuoteAccording to Shippax the Stena Lynx III has been sold to operators in South Korea. It is also reported on FONE that it is to be renamed Sun Flower 2 ! and has possibly been sold to the same operator that bought the Stena Lynx now HSC Mandarin.
One thing is for certain, it won't be returning to the Rosslare- Fishguard route next season.
Was it that badly used in the summer? Only a couple of seasons ago it ran April to end of September, twice a day.
Stena Line hae released more information on the new Stena Superfast service opening in November, available on this link:
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/ferry/press/pressreleaser/uk-roi-shipping-intelligence-september-2011/~/media/Shipping%20Intelligence%20September%202011.ashx
Stena Line Artists Impression of the new vessels livery below:
Also animated video on the new Superfast experience, showing what it will be like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYICLWtwZc0&feature=player_profilepage
No further update on the Lynx III at the moment, maybe it will be staying on the Irish Sea after all ?
Stena Line have now integrated the Belfast - Liverpool service into the full Stena Line operation. It is now possible to book the service direct with Stena Line. Since the takeover of the DFDS service it was necessary to book through a separate website. This has now ended.
The Stena Lynx III currently alongside in Dun Laoghaire harbour has had the Stena Line branding removed from the exterior of the vessel, as previously mentioned, it has been rumoured that the Lynx has been sold for service in Korea.
It has been confirmed that the Stena Lynx III has been sold to Korean interests, thus ending the fastcraft Stena Express service on the Rosslare - Fishguard route for the 2012 season.
Attached links of the vessel in service on the route.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzCF6bKyGew&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEOVvORueiU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HqIEjOsy7k&feature=related
QuoteIt has been confirmed that the Stena Lynx III has been sold to Korean interests
...and it's only 18 months since they spent €2m on her in preparation for the Dun Laoghaire service.
This is not really surprising as Stena Line has made no secret of the fact that it wants out of the fast ferry market altogether , with both Stena Voyager and Stena Explorer for sale there is now a question mark hanging over the future of Stena Carisma also.
The HSS Stena Explorer will return to service on the Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead route next April according to the Stena Line.co.uk facebook site.
http://www.facebook.com/StenaLineUK?sk=wall
Also Stena will shortly have three ro pax vessels available for further charter or redeployment within the route network.
The Stena North Sea owned Stena Feronia (former Dublin Seaways) is due to be replaced by the Regina Seaways on the Karlshamn - Klaipeda route.
The Stena Ro Ro owned Norman Asturias (former Baltic Amber) is to be replaced by Celtic Links Norman Voyager on the Montoir-de-Bretagne and Gijon route.
The chartered Corragio is to be replaced by the all new Stena Transit when it finally arrives in the UK from its builders in Korea, its currently on its delivery voyage and on charter as well carrying far eastern products to Europe.
With these three vessels possibly becoming available and the Stena Caledonia and Stena Navigator (also featured in this months Ships Monthly) also available in November, what are the chances of the Stena Europe refit being covered by a passenger carrying vessel this year ?
When will the stena europe be going for its refit do you know?
HSS is due back in service on Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead on April 1st 2012 running through until September 12th. Should be available on the booking engine shortly. Plan is for single sailing each day with same times as this year (although this is open to change) and potential for a second sailing in High season (July/August) on the busiest days (Thurs-Sat).
Lynx iii is still at Dun Laoghaire with all its Stena branding removed and will head off to Korea later this week (probably Friday or Saturday).
Pete
why have they changed their mind? apparently they were dead set to remove the hss and get it sold on
The HSS was always expected to run on the Dun Laoghaire service for 2012 and this has not changed. The rumours were that the Explorer was to be replaced by the Voyager, this is now unlikely to happen as all information is that the Explorer continues in service from April-Sept.
If however someone wanted to buy both HSS 1500 vessels in the next few months and the associated gangways and docking systems then this would change, the chance of that happening though is very remote.
The Stena Lynx III has been renamed Sunflower2 and re-registered to Korea, according to her AIS information.
Quote
Lynx iii is still at Dun Laoghaire with all its Stena branding removed and will head off to Korea later this week (probably Friday or Saturday).
How do you get a fast craft from Ireland to Korea, whilst avoiding the high seas that normally results in cancelation? Or do they piggy-back on something else?
QuoteQuote
Lynx iii is still at Dun Laoghaire with all its Stena branding removed and will head off to Korea later this week (probably Friday or Saturday).
How do you get a fast craft from Ireland to Korea, whilst avoiding the high seas that normally results in cancelation? Or do they piggy-back on something else?
They just sail - Jonathan Swift sailed from Fremantle to Dublin, and HSC Fjord Cat currently holds the Blue Riband (and has since 1998).
The Lynx III was built in Hobart, Tasmania in 1996 as Incat 040 and was sailed to Europe from there, the trip to Korea will be relatively simple. They will not have passengers so the wave height restrictions will not be as severe (no need to worry about passenger comfort) obviously they can also sail around any major weather events or just head to a port.
The Stena Transit is currently sailing from Korea to Harwich before starting service on the UK-Holland route replacing the Corragio. The likely route is through the Med through the Suez canal and onwards to Korea, which given the length of the trip will certainly give the engines a workout they haven't had for years.
Corragio is likely to be returned to Grimaldi when Stena Transit enters service.
QuoteHSS is due back in service on Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead on April 1st 2012 running through until September 12th. Should be available on the booking engine shortly.
Explorer is up already for booking 1 April to Sept 11.
QuoteQuoteHSS is due back in service on Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead on April 1st 2012 running through until September 12th. Should be available on the booking engine shortly.
Explorer is up already for booking 1 April to Sept 11.
Ah very good - Im off to a wedding at Easter so will be back on board Explorer then. Amazingly, it looks like she will live to fight yet another day. More farewells than Status Quo :)
Good to see Stena Explorer penciled in to operate again next year , I know Stena Line along with every other ferry operator has been looking very closely at fuel prices , even Ryanair's Micheal O Leary is on the record recently saying that the era of cheap travel is comming to an end , with fuel price increases of up to 30% predicted over the comming 6-8 months it will be interesting to see what this does to both air and sea fares and weather the hikes will benifit or further damage an already overburdened ferry industry.
Stena Line has confirmed sale of former Fishguard-Rosslare route high speed
vessel STENA LYNX III to South Korean operator Dae-A-Gosok Ferry. The 81
metre Incat, now at Dun Laoghaire being prepared for a delivery voyage later
in the month, has been switched to South Korean registry and re-named
SUNFLOWER 2.
Stena Line has no plans to replace the catamaran which has provided a
seasonal service from Fishguard since 1999. All traffic through 2012 will be
handled by 1981-built conventional ferry STENA EUROPE which has been on the
route since 2002 and previously served Stena in Scandinavia as
KRONPRINSESSAN VICTORIA, STENA SAGA and LION EUROPE, as well as a three year
stint between Harwich and Hoek van Holland after first becoming STENA EUROPE
in 1994.
From Shippax.se
The Stena Navigator is not having a good time in its final months of service on the Irish Sea North Channel
Stena's ferry from Stranraer to Belfast was left drifting off the Mull of Galloway after losing power in both its engines.
The Stena Navigator had 70 passengers and 47 crew on board. The operation to assist them was coordinated by Clyde coastguard.
Tugs were called and the ferry was eventually able to restart one engine.
It arrived in Belfast Lough at 23:47 on Friday, where the tugs helped as it was tied safely to the ferry pier.
The crew of the Stena Navigator alerted the Clyde Maritime Rescue Coordination Centre (MRCC) at Greenock after they were left drifting four nautical miles (7.4km) west of Corsewall Point light, at the northern end of the The Rhinns, Mull of Galloway.
Svitzer tugs Norton Cross and Willowgarth went to the ferry's assistance.
But the Stena Navigator was eventually able to complete its journey on half power.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-15320687
With the Stena Caledonia also having technical issues, the Superfast's cannot arrive soon enough.
Coming over the M3 bridge today, the Cally was coming astern towards the old river terminal at Corry Road. Looked like the Navigator was berthed down at Victoria, but not on the conventional ro-ro berth...there seems to be a lot of civil work going on at the berth to acomodate the new ships. I know they will berth bow in, but I've heard there are concerns about swinging them on departure...
Any word on when we'll see the new ships arrive? 1st November is the starting date I think, but I assume there will be a few days of berthing trials etc...
Stena Baltica is reportedly to be sold to Jadrolinija in Croatia.
Below from www.shipspotting.com Stena Baltica at Landskrona Sweden.
it really is a beautiful monster of a ship, wonder what route she'll take up now
The Stena Superfast VII has moved to the dry dock in Gdansk and is being prepared for the repainting and application of the Stena Line livery and branding.
The Stena Superfast VIII remains alongside the fitting out berth.
The Sunflower2 (ex Stena Lynx III) remains in Dun Laoghaire.
Conygar the development company behind the propsed redevelopment of Fishguard harbour have submitted their planning application.
http://www.conygar.com/News/FishguardPlanningApplication/44
19 October 2011
THE CONYGAR INVESTMENT COMPANY PLC
FISHGUARD WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT PLANNING APPLICATION
The Conygar Investment Company PLC ("Conygar"), in conjunction with Stena Line Ports
Limited ("Stena Line"), is pleased to announce that it is submitting this week a planning
application to Pembrokeshire County Council for a mixed-use marina development at
Goodwick, Fishguard in West Wales.
The main elements of the scheme include a 450 berth marina with workshops, stores and
ancillary facilities; 253 new residential apartments incorporating extensive landscaped
gardens and a 19 acre platform for the potential expansion of the existing Stena Line port.
The scheme would also create a new, publicly-accessible promenade and waterfront, together
with visitor parking.
Both Conygar and Stena Line believe that this exciting regeneration scheme will be a major
boost to the economy of the area, creating an exciting visitor destination together with much
needed employment opportunities. The granting of a planning consent will allow for a reconfiguration
and expansion of the port facilities to deliver further economic and commercial
benefits and reaffirm the Stena Line commitment to ensuring Fishguard remains a thriving
port. The end value of the development is expected to be in excess of £100 million.
The Crown Estate, owners of the sea bed, and Pembrokeshire County Council who own much
of the surrounding harbour area, have welcomed the proposals and Neil Jacobson, Head of
Coastal Operations, said:
"The proposed redevelopment would bring considerable long-term economic benefit to the
area and we are pleased that this exciting proposal has been submitted to the County Council
for consideration."
Robert Ware, Chief Executive of Conygar, commented:
"We are delighted to be working closely with Stena Line and extremely pleased by the
support shown by both The Crown Estate and Pembrokeshire County Council. This exciting
proposal will transform the area and bring significant benefits to the town and region as a
whole. Clearly we expect a complex scheme of this nature to receive considerable scrutiny
and the forthcoming planning process will undoubtedly result in a comprehensive assessment
of the proposals, but we are hopeful the scheme will receive the backing we believe it
deserves."
Michael McGrath, Stena Line Area Director, Irish Sea commented:
"We look forward to working with all the relevant parties concerned to move these projects
forward which are critical to our business and the local economy."
Councillor John Davies, Leader of Pembrokeshire County Council said:
"The operation of Fishguard Harbour is central to the economy of the whole of the north of
Pembrokeshire. There is no doubt that development is needed in order to secure the future of
the ferryport and to provide and sustain jobs for the area. We look forward to receiving the
proposals from Conygar and Stena. It is heartening that in these difficult financial times,
major companies of this sort have sufficient confidence in Pembrokeshire to come forward
with this sort of investment."
Sunflower2 has left Dun Laoghaire and the Irish Sea and is on its way to Korea.
The Superfast VII has moved back to the fitting out berth in Gdansk.
and Stena have a competition to win a trip on the new Superfast service, you can enter here:
http://www.stenaline-edeals.co.uk/superfast-vt/superfast-vt-competition.asp
The Stena Superfast VIII has now moved to the drydock in Gdansk.
The Superfast VII has now been repainted and looks very impressive in its "Making Good Time" branding.
http://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=620432&size=full
The Superfast VII is due to arrive at the new port at Cairnryan on Nov 4th and the VIII due to arrive on Nov 10th.
The Sunflower2 (Stena Lynx III) was photographed by Gordon Hislip in Dun Laoghaire on Oct 8th as it was being prepared for its trip to Korea, with all Stena Line branding removed.
Image of the Lynx III below has been taken from http://www.ferrypubs.co.uk/news_irish-sea.asp
Some more images also available here:
http://www.sealink-holyhead.com/stena/ships/lynxiii/home.html
more information on the departure of the vessel here:
http://www.afloat.ie/port-news/ferry-news/item/17174-farewell-as-stena-line%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98lynx%E2%80%99-fast-ferry-sets-sail-for-south-korea
Irish Sea fast-ferry Stena Lynx III (1996/4,113grt) which has been laid-up in Dun Laoghaire Harbour since last month has been sold to interests in South Korea. Renamed Sunflower 2 and flying the flag of the Far-Eastern nation, she departed yesterday afternoon on a delivery voyage expected to take around twenty-five days, writes Jehan Ashmore.
Article continued on above link
Superfast VII looks superb...can't wait to see her in the flesh. How long did it take to paint her into the Stena livery?
Also, I see the stern ramp is still in situ...from what I have heard, the new ships will berth bow in at Belfast, stern in at Loch Ryan...so the linkspan at Loch Ryan will need to 'reach' over the stern ramp quite a way to bridge to the upper deck.
Might try to get a non-lander in before Christmas...
The Sunflower2 (Ex Stena Lynx III) has made it to Corunna, Spain, I would assume for bunkering and crew rest. (Image from marinetraffic.com)
The Corragio has had its Stena Line funnel markings removed and is expected to be handed back to Grimaldi as soon as the Stena Transit arrives.(images from shipspotting.com)
The next edition (Autumn 2011) of Ferry & Cruise Review - due to subscribers in November, will contain a review of quite a few Stena Line vessels by Justin Merrigan. Should be good reading as Justin lives in Tasmania and has been back to sample the Irish Sea ships from a fresh perspective.
www.ferrypubs.co.uk
The AUTUMN edition (F&CR 90) is now at the printers and should be with UK subscribers during the first week of November. It will include the following Special articles:
Red Funnel 150 - Keith Adams traces the 150 years of the Isle of Wight's oldest operator.
Balearia - Richard Seville on the trail of the Spanish company's newest and most impressive ferries.
Europe Revisted - Tasmanian based Justin Merrigan's impressions on his recent visit to Europe including the Stena Caledonia, Stena Europe, Stena Adventurer, Stena Britannica, Ulysees, Oscar Wilde and Pont-Aven.
Also some great photos of the Stena Line Belfast based ships on Scott Mackey's Flickr site, lots of great images of the Caledonia, Navigator and Voyager as they enter the final months service on the Irish sea.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey
QuoteThe Corragio has had its Stena Line funnel markings removed and is expected to be handed back to Grimaldi as soon as the Stena Transit arrives.
At Hoek Van Holland last night I saw that the Coraggio has had all the Stena branding removed, with Grimaldi markings reapplied to the hull and funnel. No photo sorry - only noticed out of the window of the Stena Britannica which was covered in spray at the time (of which I now have quite a few pictures!)
Stena Superfast previews now on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1II9Q9JSYBs&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aef-BKwpkq4&feature=relmfu
interesting viewing
Two more images from Gdansk
whats the story with the base of the vessel being white? is that some sort of primer or protective coating or something?
Would assume its a primer before the anti fouling paint is applied as they have painted over that area dark red in the first shot.
The Stena Transit has just entered the English Channel from the Celtic Sea on the final leg of its delivery voyage from Korea.
Flag: Netherlands
Ship Type: Passenger
Status: Underway
Speed/Course: 16.6 kn / 62[ch730]
Length x Breadth: 212 m X 27 m
Draught: 5.5 m
Destination: HOEK VAN HOLLAND
ETA: 2011-11-01 22:00 (UTC)
Received (314): 0h 37min ago
It will replace the Corragio on the UK - Holland service.
The Sunflower2 remains in Coruna, Spain, next stop Malta according to ais information.
A chance to save money on your next ferry crossing with Stena Line, just complete the survey link and get money off your next crossing:
http://www.stenaline-edeals.co.uk/taste-survey/facebook.asp
Some great images of the Stena Superfasts in Gdansk here:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.307973325896214.96310.100000506486027&type=3
More Images of the Stena Superfasts have been released by Stena Line on their Facebook Site:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.301307666565839.89343.148421815187759&type=1
I really cannot see these ships being handed back in a few years after they have spent all this money on the refurbishment.
The Coraggio has been returned to full Grimaldi Lines livery and the Stena Transit has arrived in Holland.
Image of Stena Transit from vesseltracker.com
Image of Coraggio from Shipspotting.com
The Stena Navigator has been sold to Balearia of Spain. It is to be replaced by the Superfasts when they enter service.
Reported on Shippax.se
Both Superfasts remain in Gdansk for the moment.
Sunflower2, or Stena Lynx iii as it used to be is still in Corunna at the northern tip of Spain. Departed Dun Laoghaire 15 days ago and sailed very slowly through the Irish sea, often less than 10 knots. Crossed the tricky bay of Biscay en route to Malta for supplies and called in at Corunna. Was due in Malta on October 26th but never left Corunna port.
Weather was a bit ropey as she went through the bay of Biscay - maybe she sustained some damage? Or perhaps her mechanical issues came back (bad timing if they did!).
DP
The Sunflower 2 suffered a major engine failure during her passage through the Bay of Biscay. She is undertaking repairs in the Port of La Coruna, prior to continuing her delivery voyage to Korea.
The pictures attached show her coming into La Coruna, in what looks like still a heavy swell. (Pictures from Shipspotting.com)
any idea of the nature of the failure, i know the new owners feeling, i bought a renault 19 convertible in england many moons back and soon as i was coming of the ferry to ireland the head gasket blew catastrophically
QuoteThe Sunflower 2 suffered a major engine failure during her passage through the Bay of Biscay. She is undertaking repairs in the Port of La Coruna, prior to continuing her delivery voyage to Korea.
The pictures attached show her coming into La Coruna, in what looks like still a heavy swell. (Pictures from Shipspotting.com)
Looks like it would be very little fun being on board judging by those shots! I had a suspicion that all was not mechanically right when it took her 8 hours to get to Rosslare from Dun Laoghaire and was chugging along the coast of Wicklow at 4-6 knots. Hopefully she will be fixed up and on her way shortly.
DP
The Stena Transit enters service today on the UK- Holland service, replacing the Coraggio.
Image from Shipspotting.com
More information on the new Loch Ryan port and Stena Superfast service now on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWSBEImVy2w&feature=channel_video_title
Sunflower2 is on the way to Malta at 17 Knots, looks like they still have some engine issues.
Gdansk Pilot log shows Superfast VII to be on the move today, Wednesday 9th, at 15.00 local time..
Superfast VII is on her way to Cairnryan, ETA 12 November.
Images of the Stena Superfast VII leaving Gdansk today. Pictures courtesy of Stena Line.
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.304369886259617.90009.148421815187759&type=1
Sunflower2 has reached Gibraltar and is currently at anchor.
Flag: Korea
Ship Type: High Speed Craft
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 134[ch730]
Length x Breadth: 80 m X 40 m
Draught: 3.1 m
Destination: GIBRALTAR
ETA: 2011-11-09 09:30 (UTC)
Received (80): 0h 1min ago
Some more images of the vessel in Coruna here:
http://www.fotosdebarcos.org/viewtopic.php?t=29324
Some great images of the Stena Transit bunkering in Gibraltar enroute from Korea to Holland here:
http://www.fotosdebarcos.org/viewtopic.php?t=29438
Have to say that following Superfast VII's progress on AIS is surprisingly addictive. Off Stornoway now, due in Cairnryan in the morning.
Anyone know when Superfast VIII is due to start moving?
Still no mention of Superfast VIII moving yet, on Gdansk pilot log.. will keep you posted..anyone get any pics of her sister's arrival in Cairnryan yet?
On Facebook now...
https://www.facebook.com/StenaLineUK
A few other nice shots of her at Loch Ryan Port on Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/
Anyone know when the Stena Superfast VIII will be on the move??
Can't help thinking that these two ships and the new port are really going to hurt the P&O operation. Stena now have massive capacity, and I'm sure the launch PR will grab the publics attention. Even seeing the two ships will tempt customers, as they will be mighty impressive in the flesh. They should be weather resilient, so reliable, and it will be interesting to see what freight contracts Stena can steal from P&O...
The Stena Superfast VII arrived at the new Cairnryan port on Saturday morning Nov 12th.
Images from Stena Line UK Facebook site.
Videos of the Superfast in Loch Ryan here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dCtdD9ja3o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Ei6jvSnzwjg
The Sunflower2 remains in Gibraltar next destination showing as Malta.
Flag: Korea
Ship Type: High Speed Craft
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 54[ch730]
Length x Breadth: 80 m X 40 m
Draught: 3.1 m
Destination: MALTA
ETA: 2011-11-17 09:30 (UTC)
Received (80): 0h 1min ago
and the Coraggio left Holland this evening heading to Italy, its charter with Stena Line now complete.
Flag: Italy
Ship Type: Passenger
Status: Underway
Speed/Course: 17.9 kn / 263[ch730]
Length x Breadth: 199 m X 26 m
Draught: 5.3 m
Destination: MARINA DI CARRARA
ETA: 2011-11-19 07:00 (UTC)
Received (64): 0h 1min ago
The final countdown is now on for the biggest change in ferry operations on the North Channel for Stena Line. If you want to sail on the Stena Caledonia, Stena Navigator or HSS Voyager this is the last week you can do it.
www.ferrypubs.co.uk report the following Stena Line fleet information for the North Channel operations this week.
STENA LINE
13 November 2011
"The Stena Superfast VII at the new Loch Ryan port on 12 November. Photo taken from the Stena Caledonia by Scott Mackey.
The Stena Navigator will be withdrawn following her 0730 sailing ex Belfast on 16th November. Following destoring, she will vacate the berth for the Stena Caledonia's 1630 arrival and proceed light ship to Albert Quay Belfast. Stena crews will deliver her to an as yet unknown destination in Spain.
The HSS Stena Voyager will lay up at VT4 Belfast following her 1955 sailing on Sunday 20th. She will be de-stored and handed over to Northern Marine Management (NMM) remaining alongside there indefinitely. NMM is the Stena-owned ship management company.
The Stena Caledonia will probably complete service with the 1730 ex Stranraer on Sunday 20th. She will arrive VT4 at 2030 and then proceed to Albert Quay where she will be handed over to NMM and laid up. "
Also the latest issue of "Ferry and Cruise review" has a very interesting article from Justin Merrigan on the Irish Sea ferries, he sailed on the Stena Europe, Stena Adventurer, Stena Caledonia along with the Ulysses, Oscar Wilde, Pont Aven and the all new Stena Britannica (not Irish Sea obviously)
The also have some interesting new books coming out, including a new edition of Stena Line : The Fleet by Nick Widdows. Should be worth ordering.
http://www.ferrypubs.co.uk/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=&P_ID=535
The Stena Feronia is in the Gdansk shipyard undergoing refurbishment and repairs to its hull.
It was purchased by Stena Line North Sea from DFDS as Dublin Seaways and then chartered back to DFDS as the Stena Feronia.
That charter period has now ended.
One wonders will it return to the Irish Sea at some stage.
Images from marinetraffic.com
was there a particular incident that caused damage to its hull or is it just general wear and tear?
Honestly, no idea, but looking at the dents in the hull plating in the photos, I would imagine that some repair works were necessary.
The Stena Superfast VIII is scheduled to depart Gdansk at 12.00 today, to begin service from the Loch Ryan port on Monday.
The Stena Navigator has departed Belfast for its final sailing for Stena Line this morning.
The Stena Superfast VIII has left Gdansk and is expected into Cairnryan on Saturday 19/11 at 9am according to the ais.
The Sunflower2 has arrived in Malta, on what is turning out to be quite a trip to Korea.
The Stena Superfast VIII is in Scottish waters and will arrive in Cairnyan tomorrow Saturday at 6am.
New Superfast video now on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=eEAgwd9Kkmw
I heard a rumour (originating from a Stena line staff member) that the Britannica is being considered for the Rosslare Fishguard route, apparently there was some kind of recon trip involving some stena staff from rosslare and fishguard recently to experience the britannica, inspect it etc, has anyone heard anything about this? before this rumour i was under the impression stena had decided to keep the europe here
AIS now showing Superfast VII in Belfast - made the trip over this morning, presumably to make room for her sister at Cairnryan.
Stena / Daily Mirror doing £5 non-landing cruises on the new ships with coupons. Tempting.
Never say never with Stena, but I find that unbelievable. Britannica was designed for Harwich-Hook and would have far too many cabins for Rosslare-Fishguard. Then there is the small problem of the inadequate linkspan at Fishguard; the promised recent development plans will take years, if they ever happen.
Don't forget too that Britannica is chartered from Stena RoRo to Stena Line BV and now is the only time in a century when that route has had two identical ships operating on it and the loadings have been very good despite the economic situation.
I think it's more likely that a ship like Stena Danica (Frederikshavn-Gothenburg) will find its way to Rosslare; it's a similar type of route and the ship of similar size to Stena Europe, which was also built for Frederikshan-Gothenburg route.
thanks for your response matt, that does make a lot of sense indeed. I find it a little unbelievable too, what the stena guy said to me was that they had gone over to look at the britannica to see would it be more appropriate for freight as all the money in the rosslare crossing appears to be in freight, he indeed was one of the team that went over to inspect the ship although he confirmed nothing at all he did say that stena were considering it, but if you ask me i think the europe will remain here for at least another year. In other news the berth where the europe usually is underwent some work during the week, from what i can see its only the walkways and such that benefited from the work
Just looking at the specs of the Britannica it would be a huge Christmas present for the region if it did arrive in Rosslare! Stena onboard crew at Rosslare are fantastic, but the Europe does feel like the poor relation when you see the investment gone into the Dublin Port and Belfast Stena fleets in recent times.
The point about freight traffic is interesting. Without being close to the route it's hard to say what level of increase this sector has seen. One thing that comes to mind is IF's for want of a better phrase 'tow on tow off' market where trailers are dropped at Pembroke, hauled on and off at Rosslare by IF with another driver waiting at Rosslare for the trailer. Can Stena play in this part of the market with the Europe. Can't say I've ever noticed Fishguard doing a major trade in this.
Out of interest what is the Britannica doing since the 2 new builds arrived?
Unfortunately,a ship the size of the Stena Britannica will not be seen in Rosslare anytime soon, the figures just do not add up for that level of investment.
The current Britannica is over 63,000 tonnes, has 5,500 lanemeters, 540 cabins and capacity for 1,200 passengers, the current Stena Europe is around 25,000 tonnes, has 1,300 lanemeters and capacity for 1,400 passengers, there would need to be double deck linkspans at both ports for freight traffic and both ports would have to be upgraded to take a ship of 240 meters length.
To give some idea of the Britannica's size, the Britannica can take the combined freight traffic by lanemeters of the Europe (1,300), Isle of Inishmore (2,000), Oscar Wilde (1,160) and Julia (700) and still have plenty of space to spare by about 400 lanemeters.
Once Stena recover from the last few years investment in new vessels and ports they may start to think about replacing the Europe, but I think it will be on the Rosslare route until the Fishguard harbour redevelopment takes place over the next few years.
In the meantime the Stena Superfast VII and VIII begin service in the morning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0T_E11dymqc
There are some nice images of the Superfast VII's arrival into Belfast here:
http://pstew.co.uk/shipphotos/shipphotos.html
Image below from http://pstew.co.uk/shipphotos/stenasuperfastviie.jpg
AIS currently showing the Caledonia on her way into Loch Ryan...is this her last scheduled sailing, or will she do a return to Belfast? Guessing she'll lay up at Albert Quay with the Navigator...
The Stena Superfasts have entered service on the North Channel today and all services are running on time.
The HSS Stena Voyager completed its final sailing last night and will remain on the HSS berth VT4 in Belfast until Stena find someone to purchase the ship. The Stena Caledonia has been tied up alongside the Navigator on Albert Quay and will remain there until sold. The Navigiator is expected to depart in the next few days for its new career with Baleria.
Scott Mackey has posted some great images of the new vessels, available here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157628080488909/
Fantastic photos of the new superfasts, thanks. Am I to assume that the lack of traditional Stena names is due to them being chartered from Superfast?
Back to the Stena Britannica and Fishguard, Stena announced today that the Lynx will not be returning and that the Europe will be there for another year. As to her potential replacement, it occurs to me that there are other Superfast class ships floating around which might suit Fishguard; Seafrance currently has one and, given that they are on the skids, maybe Stena will snap her up? There would still need to be shore work and new linkspans though.
As an aside, I note that foot passengers on the Belfast and Rosslare routes get gangways. It's a pity Stena don't install some at Holyhead and Dublin!
How about Barfleur for Fishguard?
Video report featuring the new Superfasts and the boats they are replacing:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-15792757
plus more great images here:
http://www.drimnagh-road.com/121111stranraer.htm
http://www.drimnagh-road.com/121111stranraer2.htm
Brilliant set of pics of the two new superfasts Scott.
The money spent on these ships probably means they are here to stay for more than a couple of years.
Looking forward to a crossing -- or two soon.
The Superfasts seem to ideally combine the speed of a fastferry with the reliability of a conventional ship.
I'd be interested to hear how long it takes between checking in a vehicle at the port and actually leaving the port at the other end.
With the imposition of a seasonal service for the Explorer, we recently had to travel on the Adventurer, arriving at Dublin port at 7.30am for the 8.20am sailing, finally leaving the Holyhead port complex at 1.30pm, making a 6 hour trip before driving on. Took a ridiculously long time to check-in, load and unload.
There are rumours that the sale of the Stena Navigator to Baleria has fallen through and that the vessel will be laid up on Albert Quay, Belfast alongside the Stena Caledonia.
Anyone wishing to purchase either vessel can see all the relevant details here:
http://www.mondialbroker.com/detail.taf?B=287639&K=BPS
http://www.mondialbroker.com/detail.taf?B=287638&K=BPS
Recent image here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/6384459697/in/photostream/
and Bruce Peter has posted some interesting images from the press launch of the new Cairnryan port and Stena Superfast service on his blog, available here:
http://www.brucepeter.blogspot.com/
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Go away oddball, this has nothing to do with ferries or shipping! >:( >:( >:(
Anyone know what the technical problem is with then New Stena Superfast VII as from AIS she seems to be in the dry dock in Belfast. As the Stena Superfast VIII is seem to be the only vessel working today.
Apparently the Superfast VII had thruster issues last night and sustained some damage to a propeller while attempting to berth in Belfast. I would imagine repairs are needed and that's why its alongside at Harland & Wolf
Is there damage done to the V4 Terminal as from AIS the Stena Superfast VIII seems to be dock at the Liverpool Terminal.
Stena Facebook site saying that there was problems with VT4, which led to VT2 being used, and Superfast VII being checked for damage. None found and service to resume normal running later.
Be interesting to know what happened at the berth...
One of the mooring fenders was also damaged during the berthing, so possible need to check that out also.
A former Stena Line vessel has been on the move in Venezuela, the HSS Discovery has been moved to Curacao, not looking its best at the moment.
http://koopvaardij.blogspot.com/2011/11/de-scheepvaart-te-curacao_26.html
Amazing that the vessel has never entered service for Ferrymar, apparently they did not buy the mooring system and passenger/vehicle gangway, one would have thought it was in Stena's interest for the Discovery to be successful and then they could have sold on the remaining HSS 1500 craft for further service.
Flag: Venezuela
Ship Type: High Speed Craft
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 38[ch730]
Length x Breadth: 120 m X 40 m
Draught: 4.8 m
Destination: CURACAO
ETA: 2011-11-24 14:00 (UTC)
The doors on the second picture looks like to have fire damage on the Discovery, is this correct. I think in Stena best interest is the they use the HSS Exployer as a sesonal ships Ireland - Wales and use the HSS Voyager to another location in England as they could use the linkspan from Stranraer, it is sad to see them go from service all together. I think it is personally bad that Stena sell these ships now looking at the state of the Discovery.
Not sure about the fire damage, but the back of the boat is very black, I think all exhausts are on top so its not from the engines. The vessel is rumoured to be heading for dry dock for maintenance and preparation to enter service, though without a docking system I can't see that happening.
Most recent image prior to above it looks just as bad:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sam601601/6316817138/sizes/l/in/photostream/
Compared to when it left Belfast for Venezula:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/belfastship/6090266876/
Some very bad weather expected on the Southern Corridor, the Stena Europe sailings for Nov 29 are cancelled.
Last updated: 28 November 2011 18:50:35
due to severe weather forecast the 0245 ex fishguard and the 0900 ex rosslare tomorrow tuesday 29th november have been cancelled . passengers for the 0900 will be accommodated on the 2100 today and
2100 tomorrow. please contact ferry check 053 9161505.
http://www.stenaline.ie/ferry/latest-sailing-information/rosslare-fishguard/
A more recent picture of the HSS Discovery having moved again to lay up in a place called Caracas Baai.
They didn't drydock the HSS or give it a clean.
what an absolute waste
Quotewhat an absolute waste
True, she's the exact same as Concorde, the idea is ahead of her time, but the technology (and engines in both cases) are dated....
Sunflower2 (ex Stena Lynx iii) has reappeared on AIS and is currently anchored just off Taiwan in the China Sea so has nearly made it to South Korea. Has been one hell of a voyage but glad to see her get there safe.
HSS Discovery is as mentioned above now located at Caracas Baai where some work is apparently being carried out on her "jets" while the promoters seek investors interested in getting her back into revenue earning service. Doesn't look too good at the moment, but at least she has moved which is a start.
Despite being offered at "competitive" prices, there has been no firm interest in either HSS Stena Voyager or Explorer so far. Voyager will remain laid up in VT4 Belfast and Explorer in Holyhead, save for a nice break at H&W in the Spring before she re-enters service on April 1st.
All but 7 of Stena Lines Irish staff are being made redundant (39 out of 46 being let go) in the new year subject to the outcome of a labour court hearing. Some of the shore staff have been told that they will be offered seasonal contracts for the April-September period in Dun Laoghaire in 2012 while there is also speculation that Ro Ro Services (who run Stenas Dublin Port operation) may be contracted to run the Dun Laoghaire operation for 2012. Stenas contract with Dun Laoghaire runs until the end of this year with an option for a further year for 2013 or an extension until 2015.
Pete
Information concerning drydocking of the Stena Line Fleet for 2012 is now becoming available.
http://www.stenaline.ie/ferry/routes/dublin-holyhead/tickets-and-fares-2012/
The Stena Nordica is expected to refit between January 5th - January 19th.
http://www.stenaline.nl/ferry/overtocht/hoek-van-holland-harwich/dienstregeling/
The Stena Hollandica between March 23rd - March 28th
The Stena Britannica between November 2nd - November 4th
No further information at the moment regarding drydocking & refits on the remaining Irish Sea fleet.
The Stena Feronia remains in Gdansk shipyard.
The Stena Baltica is still laid up in Lyeskil
The Stena Caledonia, Stena Navigator and HSS Voyager are laid up in Belfast at Albert Quay and VT4 (HSS)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/6384459697/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/6384451771/in/photostream
The HSS Explorer is laid up in Holyhead until resuming service in April.
And in books
The 2012 Ferry & Cruise Annual features an article on the Stena Caledonia written by Scott Mackey
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/6537453971/in/photostream
www.ferrypubs.co.uk
The 2012 edition of our popular ferry and cruise annual will include,the new Finlaggan, Baltic Ro-Ro, P&Os Aurora and Oriana, Hurtigruten service, Liners of the past, Round Britain cruise and Saving the Manxman plus other Cruise and Ferry features. Photographs in colour and black & white. A4 size. 112 pages. Hardback. Now Published.
http://www.ferrypubs.co.uk/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=114&P_ID=532
and the new Stena Line the Fleet has also been published.
The 2011 edition of Stena Line The Fleet produced by Nick Widdows will bring the companys fleet up-to-date with the many new ships that have been introduced since the last edition. Each ship illustrated with photograph and technical details, together with an overview of the companys history and development. Full colour. A5 style,48 pages. Now published.
http://www.ferrypubs.co.uk/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=&P_ID=535
and Stena Line have been sending out Christmas Greetings this week.
Sunflower2 the former Stena Lynx III has made it to Korea, it is currently in Busan, South Korea.
That was some delivery voyage !
Last Position Received
Area:
Latitude / Longitude: 35.08417[ch730] / 129.0048[ch730] (Map)
Currently in Port: BUSAN
Last Known Port: BUSAN
Flag: Korea
Ship Type: High Speed Craft
Status: Anchored/Moored
Speed/Course: 0 kn / 58[ch730]
Length x Breadth: 80 m X 40 m
Draught: 3.1 m
Destination: BUSAN
ETA: 2011-12-20 10:00 (UTC)
Received (3): 0h 0min ago
QuoteQuotewhat an absolute waste
True, she's the exact same as Concorde, the idea is ahead of her time, but the technology (and engines in both cases) are dated....
i still fail to see why concorde was scrapped, one major accident and in fairness an excellent record previous to that, sadly i think the high speed crafts will meet a similar fate, production being stopped, the vessels themselves ending up being owned by some dodgy military outfit, total shame...
Yeah that was an incredible voyage for the sunflower, how long did it take in the end? Is she running okay now, last time i checked she was only doing half her speed either to save fuel or as a result of some form of engine trouble
Stena Lines Irish Sea refits have started with the Stena Nordica refitting in Falmouth. Images from marinetraffic.
The rest of the fleet is expected to refit as follows:
Stena Europe is provisionally expected to refit from 23rd January at Belfast for 10-14 days approx
Stena Explorer is expected to refit at Harland and Wolff in February before starting her summer Holyhead-DunLaoghaire season on 1st April
Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey are expected to refit in February/March and should receive full Stena Line livery (no yard confirmed)
According to the booking website, cover will be provided for the Stena Europe this year as they are taking bookings for passengers during the refit period.
The Stena Caledonia, Navigator and Voyager remain laid up in Belfast Harbour.
More info on the Stena Europes refit, there will be no vessel to cover the service.All sailings transferred to Irish Ferries.
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/ferry/press/pressreleaser/europe-refit-2012/~/media/Europe%20Refit%202012%20Final%20Draft.ashx
Stena Europe: Fishguard – Rosslare route
Please be advised, that the Stena Europe operating on the Fishguard – Rosslare route is scheduled
to go to dry dock for her annual refit on Sunday 22nd January until Thursday 2nd February 2012.
The last sailing of the Europe from Fishguard will be the 14:30 on Sunday 22nd January and the first
sailing after the refit will be the 09:00 from Rosslare on Thursday 2nd February 2012.
Securing any form of cover for limited charter periods is always challenging and we have
unfortunately been unable to obtain suitable tonnage for this short period of absence. We will of
course be able to offer our customers capacity on our Holyhead - Dublin service where this
provides a practicable alternative. Additionally, we have secured a space agreement with Irish
Ferries on their adjacent Pembroke – Rosslare route during this time of absence of the vessel.
A more detailed letter will be sent out to customers nearer the date of the Stena Europe refit with
information for temporarily routing your units via Pembroke at the following sailing times:
Departure Arrival Departure Arrival
Rosslare 08.45 Pembroke 12.46 Pembroke 02.45 Rosslare 06.46
Rosslare 20.45 Pembroke 00.46 Pembroke 14.45 Rosslare 18.46
The benefits of the space charter arrangements we have made are that you will be able to book as
normal through Stena Line Freight with all terms and conditions with Stena applying even though
your units will be moving through Pembroke.
We do appreciate that this will affect the schedules
of some customers who rely upon the Stena Europe to fulfill their own commitments and we sincerely apologies for any inconvenience that may be caused as a consequence. We have worked hard to put in place an imaginative solution which enables you to continue shipping with us in the
normal way using the available capacity on the corridor throughout the period of absence of the
Stena Europe and to protect space for our customers, with full back-up through our Dublin service
for those that may require it.
Further information will follow shortly but we should add that Stena Line staff will be present in
Pembroke Port whilst the Stena Europe is on refit and we have ensured that the process will be
simple, straightforward and efficient.
any idea what will be carried out on the refit? just regular stuff or is there something larger scale
For the Stena Europe, I would imagine it just the usual annual overhaul and renewal of safety certificates etc. There is no news to suggest any major expenditure to rival the last few years, with the refurbished Stena +, lounges, Barista, engine replacement etc.
The Stena Feronia has left the shipyard in Gdansk and is now alongside the quay at the entrance to Gdansk harbour. The Stena Nautica was refitted recently and has returned to service in the new look Stena Line livery, no photos available yet.
The Stena Feronia which has been in Gdasnk for the last weeks is going to provide cover for the Stena Vision which is going for annual overhaul from the 23rd Jan - 6th Feb.
Details here:
Please be advised, that the Stena Vision operating on the Karlskrona - Gdynia route is scheduled to go to dry dock for her annual refit on Monday 23rd January until Monday 6th February 2012.
Our ship M/S Stena Vision will be docking for regular refit between the 23rd of January and the 6th of February 2012. At Stena Line Freight we have a strong commitment to the market and our customers and we have been working intensively to find a solution that allows us to continue to offer our regular frequency and capacity during this period.
We are therefore very pleased to inform you that M/S Stena Feronia will be deployed on the route during the docking period of M/S Stena Vision. See schedule below.
Obviously Stena Feronia offer a different set of facilities on board compared to Stena Vision, however we will do our outmost to maintain the service level your drivers are used
to.
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/ferry/press/pressreleaser/vision-refit-2012/~/media/Feronia.ashx
The Stena Nordica which is in Falmouth for its refit is due to return to service on Jan 19th.
The Stena Nordica is still in Falmouth Harbour, looks like it won't return to service this evening.
http://www.nmmc.co.uk/index.php?/justvisiting/webcams/falmouth_harbour_from_the_tower_out_to_sea
You can see the Stena funnel behind and to the right of the RFA Argus in the webcam image.
The Stena Europe has left Rosslare heading North for refit in H&W Belfast.
The tanker Aberdeen is still in the refit dry dock at H&W so if its Belfast the Europe will have to dry dock in the big drydock under the two giant cranes.
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The Stena Europe currently in Belfast for annual overhaul/refit is pictured alongside the ship repair quay at H&W as the Aberdeen still occupies the dry dock.
Image from marinetraffic.com
Some further images of the Stena Europe in Belfast now on Scott Mackeys Flickr Site:
Link Here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey
The Europe is still berthed at the ship repair quay as the Aberdeen still occupies the drydock.
The Aberdeen has finally departed from the Belfast dry dock this evening, one would expect the Europe to enter dry dock asap, as its due back in service from Rosslare on Feb 2nd @ 09.00 ex Rosslare, giving H&W less than 7 days to carry out all remaining refit duties and clean the hull, paint and touch up and do what ever else is necessary.
The Europe will probably not receive the Stena Blue wave "Making Good Time" branding given the time allowed to carry out the work.
Also the Stena Feronia which replaced the Stena Vision in Gydinia on Monday was held at port for a number of safety defects. Ironic given that it was in the Gdansk shipyard for the at least 6 weeks before returning to service.The Feronia's sister ship the Liverpool Seaways was also stopped at Karlshamn, with similar issues.
http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/brister-stoppade-farja-i-karlskrona_6791783.svd
Deficiencies stopped ferry in Karlskrona
January 23, 2012 at 23:19, Updated: January 24, 2012 at 00:02
Transportation Board has stopped the vessel Stena Feronia from leaving the dock in Karlskrona Gdynia Poland as a destination. According to TV 4 News Karlskrona inspectors discovered serious security flaws that allowed assessing the vessel unsafe for passenger service. Among other things, the gaps evacuation and fire safety.
http://www.kuriren.nu/nyheter/default.aspx?articleid=6268570
KARLSHAMN One of the Danish DFDS ferries, Liverpool Seaways, which operates between Karlshamn and Klaipeda in Lithuania was stopped last Wednesday before driving away from Karlshamn then Transport Agency inspectors found serious deficiencies.
Among other things, fire doors were not closed, blocked exits and ladders for the lifeboats for short. Neither followed the rules for dangerous goods. Total found 25 errors on board, reported Swedish Radio Bleking
The Stena Feronia is expected to return to the Irish Sea in Feb to cover the refits of the Belfast - Liverpool Stena Mersey and Stena Lagan which are expected to receive the full Stena Line hull branding (as opposed to Stena Freight Blue Hull) and possibly a minor refit of the Stena Adventurer, while there is a vessel available to cover.
The Stena Europe moved into the dry dock from the Ship Repair Quay at Harland & Wolff Belfast today. The vessel is still scheduled to return to service on Thursday Feb 2nd. If it is to return on time, the Europe will be departing Belfast on Wednesday evening.
Looks like the Stena Europe is going to be a bit late returning to service, it is now scheduled to return to service on the 14.30 ex Fishguard tomorrow afternoon rather than the 09.00 Ex Rosslare originally timetabled.
This delay is most likely due to the tanker Aberdeens late departure from the drydock in H&W.
It is still in the drydock in Belfast at the moment.
http://www.stenaline.ie/ferry/latest-sailing-information/fishguard-rosslare/
***The Stena Europe is currently in drydock, and will resume service with the 1430hrs sailing from Fishguard on Thursday 2nd February. All passengers with reservations will be accepted on the sailings from Pembroke Dock to Rosslare.
There will be some articles on the Stena Caledonia and the new port at Cairnryan along with a review of the Stena Transporter in the Winter Issue of Ferry & Cruise review which is published this week.
http://www.ferrypubs.co.uk/news.asp?
Ferry & Cruise Review - Latest Edition
Ferry & Cruise Review (issue 91) is now published. Articles in this issue include St Peter Line - Sailing to Russia, Three Ships - Tallink's Galaxy Class Trio, Stena Transporter - New North Sea Freighterand Island Living - John Hendy looks at the problems experienced by residences of three of Britain's off shore communities in the light of the problems with the Ben-my-Chree serving the Isle of Man
http://www.ferrypubs.co.uk/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=101&P_ID=403
Ferry & Cruise Review - Latest Edition
Island Life, Sailing to Russia with St Peter Line, Tallink, New North Sea Freighters for Stena Line, Farewell to the Stena Caledonia and Stena's New Irish Sea Port.
The Stena Europe departed from Belfast over night and is heading at speed for Fishguard 19.6kts, due to resume service with this afternoons 14.30 ex Fishguard sailing.
The Stena Vision has completed its annual overhaul and is due to return to service tonight Feb 5th.
This will release the Stena Feronia currently sailing the Gydnia route which is then expected to return to the Irish Sea to cover for the refits and repainting of the Stena Lagan and Mersey, which are expected to receive the full Stena branding.
Stena Vision image from.
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=23086.0
The Stena Navigator is on its way to Spain according to the AIS.
Looks like Stena found a buyer.
thats good, i was hoping to see it back in service asap, i cant believe they scrapped its sister ship, it was very young to be scrapped, did it have some major problems?
Not too sure about the reasons for the Seafrance Renoir's fate, but the fact that Seafrance collapsed around the same time it reached the beach in India, may give an indication of the issues that the ships fate was closely linked with the company.
There is a very good tribute to the ferry in the "Ferry & Cruise Ship Annual 2010, written by John Hendy and featuring some really good photos. Also the Dover Ferry Photos have plenty of info:
http://www.ferrypubs.co.uk/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=114&P_ID=432
http://www.doverferryphotos.co.uk/pastandpresent/cote.htm
The Stena Feronia has been diverted to Gothenburg to provide cover for the Stena Germanica which has gone technical with a rudder issue. The Feronia is scheduled to provide cover until Feb 13th.
For more information
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/ferry/press/pressreleaser/germanica-drydock-2012/
Please be advised that Stena Germanica will be in dry dock until 13.02.2012. From Tuesday 07.02.2012 we will have Stena Feronia as a replacement vessel and we will keep daily departures from Kiel and Gothenburg. Please note that there will be no departures from Gothenburg on Saturday, February 4th, and from Kiel on Monday, February 6th.
The Germanica is in Odense shipyard being repaired at the moment.
Images from
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=23141.0
No word were the Stena Mersey or Stena Lagan will be going off service for there refit and paint job. Think they will look nicer in stena livery.
Indeed , I am looking forward to seeing those two ships in full Stena livery , I suspect they will look well.
New Stena Line Innovation promotional video now on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI-IUe7bWJc&feature=plcp&context=C39fad43UDOEgsToPDskJezJ56A9t79ZtqGtjjesmN
Interesting video.
The Stena Germanica has returned to service with its rudder replaced. The Stena Feronia is now on the way to the Irish Sea to provide cover for the refit and repainting of the Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey.
The Stena Feronia is showing an ETA into Birkenhead of 22.30 on the 16/02.
Stena Line have confirmed that the Belfast - Birkenhead route dry dockings will commence on Feb 20th.
The 2012 dry dock programme for the vessels Stena Mersey and Stena Lagan, operating on the Belfast – Liverpool route, is scheduled to commence on Monday 20th February 2012 and continue until the 20th March 2012. Stena Mersey will be the first of the two vessels to go for refit and will complete her last sailing from Liverpool at 22:30 on Sunday 19th February 2012.
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/ferry/press/pressreleaser/drydock-programme-belfast-2012/~/media/2012%20Belfast-Liverpool%20Dry%20Dock%20Programme.ashx
The Stena Navigator has left Belfast on the way to Santander, Spain.
[size=12]Some information on refits for STENA LAGAN and STENA MERSEY;[/size]
ShipPax Information - Stena's big spend on Irish Sea pair, Shipping publications consulting consultation statistics
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Stena's big spend on Irish Sea pair
Birkenhead-Belfast route twins STENA LAGAN and STENA MERSEY will receive major internal refurbishment during annual overhauls by Harland and Wolff, Belfast, and are also set to return to service with Stena Line's all white ro-pax vessel livery. At present STENA LAGAN has had a blue hull since time on the run under DFDS operation from summer 2010, while STENA MERSEY has been red-painted throughout service as MERSEY VIKING, MERSEY SEAWAYS and under the present name since last year.
First to stand down next Monday (February 20) is STENA MERSEY, to be followed two weeks later by STENA LAGAN, with both 480 passenger/2,275lanem. ships, completed by Visentini in 2005, set to have Stena Plus Lounges with Wi Fi facilities installed together with alterations to restaurant arrangements as well as external repainting.
Although there was no stand-in vessel for Fishguard -Rosslare during STENA EUROPE'S recent Harland and Wolff dry docking, Stena are maintaining a two ship Birkenhead service bringing in STENA FERONIA, an earlier Visentini
product which sailed on the route from completion in 1997 until a move to Birkenhead-Dublin sailings as DUBLIN VIKING in 2002, continuing until the route closed early in 2010. STENA FERONIA, bought from DFDS by Stena North
Sea late in 2010, saw Baltic service last year and recently stood-in for STENA GERMANICA between Gothenburg and Kiel.
(c) ShipPax / Russell Plummer
link: http://www.shippax.se/members/news/newsarticle.asp?id=4553
[size=12]STENA CALEDONIA has been moved to a different lay up location within Belfast Harbour. On Friday morning, under command of Capt John Ferguson, she left Albert Quay and tied up at the former outfit quay at Harland and Wolff in Musgrave Channel. This is the almost exact location where she was launched as St David on 25/9/80 - the final ship launched from H&W's Musgrave Yard and the last passenger vessel built at Belfast.
Photos and a short video at http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey[/size]
The Stena Navigator has arrived in Santander, Spain and has entered dry dock.
Images of its arrival here:
http://spanishshipping.blogspot.com/2012/02/stena-navigator-maria-de-maeztu-doblete.html?spref=fb
has this been sold to balearia? I think it has but i was really hoping it wouldnt be a st the livery is just depressing on balearia ships
Yes, the Stena Navigator has been sold to Baleria for service on one of their Spanish routes.
beautiful ship, i had always planned to take a trip on her, sadly never got around to it
Stena Danica technical prolems
(http://www.gp.se/image_processor/1.870710.1330106654!/image/3456940046.jpg_gen/derivatives/full/3456940046.jpg?maxWidth=650)
Taken from shipwrecklog.com
QuoteThe 155 meter long, 2950 dwt ferry Stena Danica became disabled at Gothenburg, Sweden. The ferry suffered a power blackout while approaching the quay in the harbour. To avoid alliding with the quay, the Stena Danica dropped its anchors. Three tugs arrived and assisted the ferry to its berth. No reports of injuries, damage or pollution being released. The vessel cancelled the following scheduled voyage. This is the second reported power failure on the vessel in the last seven days.
Thats odd , Stena Dancia had new engines fitted recently , would imagine that the ship would have few if any mechanical problems after an expensive job like that.
Having said that Fastnet Line's MV Julia did blow two clutches within 8 weeks of a major overhaul so it goes to show that you can have gremlins in the engine room no matter how good your maintenance is.
The Stena Mersey is currently getting a lot of white paint applied in H&W Belfast.
Images here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/6794874880/in/photostream
The Stena Explorer has the AIS switched back on, and is due to refit in Belfast after the Stena Lagan.
The Stena Baltica is now on the Stena Ro Ro site available for charter. Looks in good shape from the pictures.(probably taken after the last refit, not since laid up though)
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Stena-Baltica.aspx
Images of the former Stena Navigator being repainted in Santander are here:
http://spanishshipping.blogspot.com/2012/03/stena-navigator-cambio-de-colores.html
i always hated that livery but it doesnt actually work too badly on the old navigator
The Stena Mersey is still in drydock in H&W Belfast and has had the full Stena Line Blue Wave branding applied along with the route information on the ferry hull. It is expected to leave drydock and return to service on Wednesday.
The Stena Feronia is being repaired at the ship repair quay at H&W with the damaged steel cut out of the hull and being prepared for the replacement panels to be welded.
Lots of images of the Stena Feronia on the Flickr Site of Smac.ni here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157629131379980/
Images of the damage caused in the accident:
http://www.u.tv/Galleries/Gallery.aspx?guid=192e278d-497a-4304-af43-7ec63502b5e3
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1512726
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1512739
The Stena Lagan and HSS Stena Explorer are both expected to have completed refits before the end of March. With Explorer due to resume service on April 1st I wonder will it be next into drydock at H&W. As the Stena Mersey will be approx 10 days late returning to service will they delay the Stena Lagan refit to allow the Explorer refit in time.
Image of the Stena Mersey from Neothyris on seatheships.org
http://www.seatheships.org.uk/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/62534/title/stena-mersey/cat/509
Good shot and good links giftgrub, thanks as always for the updates.
I think you might be right and that Explorer may be next into H&W. Remember that her return has been brought forward another 2 days to March 30th so ideally will need to be out of drydock by the 29th at the latest before heading back to Holyhead to pick up her new crew and supplies ready to leave for Dun Laoghaire at 10am on the 30th.
The 1030 Belfast-Liverpool sailings are now cancelled until March 27th which would appear to back this up.
Pete
The former Stena Navigator has been renamed Daniya, images of the ship in Santander here:
http://spanishshipping.blogspot.com/2012/03/stena-navigator-renombrado-daniya.html
Stena have chartered the Clipper Pennant from Seatruck to provide cover for the damaged Stena Feronia which was covering the Stena Mersey on the Belfast - Liverpool service.
The Clipper Pennant is a freighter with space for 12 passengers, so a freight only service on this vessel.
http://www.ferry-site.dk/ferry.php?id=9372688&lang=en
On board video tour of the Stena Feronia on this link (just scroll to the bottom of the page):
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Stena-Feronia.aspx
Images of the Pride Of Telemark (ex Stena Jutlandica) being scrapped in India, a sister ship to the Stena Danica.
Images from http://www.midshipcentury.com/
for more images go to www.midshipcentury.com and scroll down the page.
The Stena Mersey returned to service today, looking very impressive in its new Stena Line colous. The Stena Lagan has taken its place in the H&W Belfast drydock, which means the Stena Explorer will probably not drydock before returning to service on the Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead service.
Plenty of images of the ship here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157625811784069/
The Stena Danica has entered drydock in Gothenburg and is due to return to service on the 26th March. She has not been replaced on the Gothenburg-Fredrickshaven route.
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/ferry/press/pressreleaser/drydock-stena-danica-march-2012/~/media/Dry%20Dock%20Danica%20%20March%202012.ashx
Some interesting images of the Stena Lagan getting the new Stena Logo's applied in H&W Belfast on the this site: dated March 22nd.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey
The HSS Stena Explorer has arrived in Dun Laoghaire today, due to begin service this weekend.
The former Stena Navigator, now renamed Daniya has been floated out of drydock in Santander, with all external repainting complete. Image below is one of many available here:
http://spanishshipping.blogspot.com/2012/03/daniya-flote.html
The Stena Danica has returned to service after its recent refit.
The Stena Lagan is expected to return to service this Thursday after its overhaul.
Stena have released some more promotional videos on their youtube channel with some interesting images of some of the Irish channel fleet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yruZlnpIyeM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRUv4zpDJn4&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68fkUIUp8es&feature=youtu.be
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ffUdroXCMQ&feature=youtu.be
The HSS Stena Explorer service from Dun Laoghaire returns this Friday March 30th, until Sept 11th 2012 with the vessel scheduled to depart Holyhead at 10.00 am arriving into Dun Laoghaire at 12.00 and on the return departing Dun Laoghaire at 13.15 for arrival into Holyhead at 15.15.
http://www.stenaline.ie/ferry/routes/dun-laoghaire-holyhead/timetable
The Stena Lagan has returned to service in its new Stena Line branding and combined with the Stena Mersey, they show what a lick of paint and some TLC can do for a vessel. They look very impressive all painted up.
Images here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157625811741177/
it has to be said presenting a good front really adds to a compnies credibility, not that stena need it at all but if you look at the diplomat it was like a floating patch work quilt however now with the celtic horizon the company seems quite credible, its a brand and its out there, julia was never even given that chance, the thing looked like a bag of shite, in fairness the funnell should have been left white because just a simple thing alone like the rub on arm transfer that fastnet threw on the funnel just made everything look worse, its scary to think that the st colum, st patrick I, poseidon express ended its days looking far superior and a lot newer than poor julia did, that ship looked like it was begging for alang while in irish ownership, i guarantee no matter what her duties are from now on she'll look better than she did on our waters. to even embark on a business venture it should appear as if the owners at least have some faith but they were too busy lining their pockets and left the julia looking like some sort of salvaged ship that was to make do for a year or so while they milked any profits to buy a second home or another m5 bmw, yet again irish folk ruined a potential money maker in favour of their own selfish gain, incidentally if anyone knows where any of these con men live you should prob vandalize their cars and their property at every given opportunity and if you see these wealthy fu-ks in public you should harass them because the only reason the entire country is the way it is is because we accept that we have already been fu-ked and never do anything about what happened, there are lots of rich people who have more money than they ever needed and theyre delighted cos there is never any repercussions from their gross misconduct
Gone a bit off topic with that statement Larry !
The Stena Europe has undertaken a relaxing evening cruise along the South Coast of Wexford this evening !!!, due to the high winds the Europe is not expected to dock in Rosslare until after 22.00.
The ship left Fishguard as usual at around 02.30 in the morning and failed to berth in Rosslare at 07.00 in the morning due to the high winds. It has spent the day sheltering off Hook Head.
The Isle of Inishmore had similar issues but was able to berth at around 18.00 hrs. The Oscar Wilde was also delayed and berthed successfully at 21.00 hrs.
The Stena Europe is now expected to arrive in Rosslare at 23.00 hrs tonight, the passengers will remember the crossing for a long time.
Some very interesting images of the Stena Superfasts in Loch Ryan are available on Bruce Peters blog, a sample below:
http://brucepeter.blogspot.com/2012/03/loch-ryan-in-spring.html
Also the Stena Danica looks very good after its refit in Gothenburg, picture from Landgangen.
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=23844.msg0#new
The Stena Saga apparently suffered an engine room fire over the Easter weekend, but no major damage to report.
Video of the Sage with lots of smoke coming from below the funnel at the top of the this page:
http://www.tv2.no/nyheter/innenriks/-svart-roeyk-velta-ut-av-stena-saga-3750347.html
The cruise-ferry Stena Saga, which runs between Oslo and Fredrikshavn in Denmark, was hit by what's been described as a minor explosion in its engine room Saturday evening, reported Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK). The blast sparked a fire that set off fire alarms, but it was quickly contained.
Alarmed residents south of Drøbak called emergency services when they saw smoke billowing from the ship and noted that it was off course in the sound leading into the inner Oslo Fjord.
A Stena Line spokesman confirmed that the explosion created a lot of smoke but claimed it was contained by the vessel's sprinkling system in the engine room. The vessel drifted for a brief period but was able to continue sailing towards Oslo, where it arrived around 30 minutes late.
There were 1,392 passengers and a crew of 180 on board but the Stena spokesman said no evacuation was necessary. The incident caused no major damage, he said, and the ship was cleared to sail back to Denmark Saturday night.
http://www.newsinenglish.no/2012/04/09/explosion-on-board-danish-ferry/
Also Stena Lines Irish Sea promo videos have reappeared on Youtube again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mODgaC7HH_k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k05XHVj4ojc&feature=plcp&context=C4043bebVDvjVQa1PpcFO24qJzMemLV9hsNLitvAxN_oYkhmIXmqE%3D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyI5ed_AZCY&feature=plcp&context=C4489926VDvjVQa1PpcFO24qJzMemLVzpLXhTpyYziyLj9l55n4E8%3D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTRr8Q1e8G0&feature=plcp&context=C45a820aVDvjVQa1PpcFO24qJzMemLV5fCDBz_vfItfB7FDQ7XSek%3D
Reports today on the damage caused in the collision with the Stena Feronia.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-17825208
http://www.u.tv/News/Drunk-captain-caused-$2m-ferry-bill/809e5f80-f615-42b0-8efa-f448342d8999
Also great image of the Stena Europe off Hook Head during its long voyage from Fishguard on April 4th.
thats a great picture. You dont see that scene too often!!
Quotethats a great picture. You dont see that scene too often!!
Fantastic photo. Taken from Dunmore East.
The HSS 900 Stena Carisma was out for a pre season run today. Interesting track on Marine Traffic, as per image below.
The Stena Express service operated by the Carisma returns to the Gothenburg - Fredrikshaven route on May 13th 2012.
Stena Line and Stena Ro Ro have purchased four Visentini vessels from the Meridian Fleet.
Included in the deal are the Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey operating out of Belfast and also the Norman Voyager and Watling Street.
The Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey will remain on the routes and Norman Voyager and Watling Street will remain on charter.
Confirmation of the two Irish Sea Vessels :
Stena Line has confirmed that it has now purchased the Stena Mersey and Stena Lagan, the two RoPax vessels that it acquired when the company purchased the Liverpool-Belfast route for £45m last summer. The ships had been operating the service on a charter basis and as part of Stena Line’s Irish Sea continual Irish Sea investment programme these vessels will now become part of the Stena Line fleet.
The ships recently underwent a significant £4m refurbishment upgrade at the Harland & Wolff shipyard in Belfast and as Stena Line’s Area Director (Irish Sea) Michael McGrath said, they will play an important part in helping to develop this important commercial link between both regions, he said: “When we purchased the route last summer we conducted a comprehensive review of the service and a key consideration was the status of the ships. The vessels were an excellent fit for the route which is an important freight and passenger channel and purchasing the ships meant that we could commit significant resources into bring the Stena Mersey and Stena Lagan into the Stena Line family and give the ships our own unique look, feel and high quality service. We have managed to achieve the integration with a high quality refit for both ships and I am confident that new and existing customers will see how Stena Line is taking the route to a new level of comfort and efficiency.â€
The Stena Mersey and Stena Lagan were built at the Visentini shipyard in Italy in 2005 and can accommodate 980 passengers and provide 2 662 lane metres for freight and passenger vehicles. Both ships are equipped with 121 Cabins (4 berths) and provide two daily sailings from Liverpool to Belfast.*
http://www.sjofartstidningen.se/nyheter/
[size=12]Stena RoRo buys RoPax quartet [/size]
GOTHENBURG. Stena RoRo buys four RoPax ships from German HSH Bank for an undisclosed sum. They previously owned by a consortium based in the UK. The sister ships built in 2005-2008 in Italian Visentini shipyard. The vessels have a capacity of 800 passengers and 2,300 movie ether. Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey (both flagged in U.K.) has previously been chartered by Stena Line and operates in the Irish Sea on the line Birkenhead-Belfast while Norman Voyager (flagged in France) and Watling Street (U.K. flagged) is utchartrade to LD Lines up to 2013.
- These acquisitions strengthen Stena RoRo further its position in RoPax charter market. In total, we now have twelve ships utchartrade to various companies around the world, says Per Westling, CEO Stena RoRo.
Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey has been recently upgraded for EUR 1.8 million. Published: 2012-04-25 15:47
Stena also have a new commercial starring Dom Joly promoting the Car Cation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_bwP3MffmE&feature=plcp
Some photos taken onboard the newly purchased and refurbished STENA LAGAN and STENA MERSEY -
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157625811741177/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157625811784069/
Also a wide variety of ferries and shipping photos at;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey
Some great Photos in that selection Scott.
Its seems that Stena are not finished spending money on ships, more rumours about Stena Line acquiring one or more of the SeaFrance fleet have surfaced today... (The Ex- Superfast vessel SeaFrance Moliere is not included in this sale as it is being sold by the banks and not the Liquidator)
http://www.ifw-net.com/freightpubs/ifw/index/now-stena-eyes-seafrance-ferries/20017956764.htm?source=ezine&utm_source=IFW+Daily+News+Bulletin&utm_campaign=cd1ecac543-IFW_30_4_124_30_2012&utm_medium=email#.T56KMn2Wmdo.email
Stena Line could be poised to make a late-hour bid for one or more of the three ferries operated by collapsed cross-Channel ferry firm SeaFrance, whose assets are now in the hands of the liquidator.
The ships in question are the Rodin, Berlioz and freighter Nord Pas de Calais.
The deadline for sealed bids is this Friday and a bankruptcy judge will announce his decision by the middle of next month.
A Stena Line spokesperson told IFW: "Recent reports that we have expressed an interest in acquiring one or more of SeaFrance's three ferries is just speculation."
However, IFW was told by a source close to the sale process that representatives from Stena Line had inspected the vessels last week, after making initial inquiries about them some time ago.
But Stena's late interest would not lead to the deadline being extended, the source said.
Eurotunnel said it was "as determined as ever" to buy the SeaFrance vessels, while DFDS told IFW it was still undecided whether to make a bid.
DFDS and its French partner, LD Lines, on Friday deployed a second vessel on their Dover-Calais route.
P&O Ferries said it would will not be pursuing its interest in the SeaFrance ships.
Stena's main routes are between the UK and Ireland.
Thanks for that information. Rodin or Berlioz (minus the cow catcher) for Fishguard? Stena Europe's a bit long in the tooth these days.
I wonder if Stena will approach the banks for the Moliere too?
All speculation of course...
Pure speculation, but if they were to purchase all 4 SeaFrance vessels, I would think the Berlioz and Rodin and the NPDC would all go to the Gothenburg - Fredrickshaven route, replacing all 4 existing vessels (Danica, Jutlandica, Carisma,Scanrail), allowing the the Stena Jutlandica to switch to Rosslare and the Moliere converted to Stena Superfast standard would replace the Nordica and possibly HSS Explorer.
That would leave the HSS Discovery, HSS Explorer, Stena Danica, Stena Baltica, HSS Carisma and Scanrail to be redeployed or sold.
However they may buy none of the vessels and nothing will happen.
Pure speculation, but I like your thinking! The existing Stena Jutlandica is, I think, similar in design to the Isle of Inishmore, so that's a nice fit for Fishguard.
We'll soon know!
http://www.lloydsloadinglist.com/freight-directory/sea/now-stena-eyes-seafrance-ferries/20017956764.htm
No more speculation: Stena have submitted a bid for the three SeaFrance ships being sold by the Liquidator according to reports from France. Eurotunnel and LD Lines are the competition.
http://www.ferryships.fr/article-deux-repreneurs-pour-les-navires-de-seafrance-104536514.html
Some very strange goings on the Stena Superfast VII last night with reports of a woman and baby falling from the vessel as it was arriving in Belfast.
Not 100% accurate according to reports this evening.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-18022525
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-18027910
http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0510/search-to-resume-for-missing-child.html
that all seems very odd, the woman was lucky to have survived the fall
Reports that the Stena Caledonia has been sold are apparently true, the Caledonia is expected to see further service in Indonesia, which will be one incredible delivery voyage for the Belfast built car ferry.
Northern Marine (Stena's ship management company) are apparently preparing the vessel for sea trails within the next few weeks to be carried out before the purchase is completed.
One would imagine they might remove the Stena branding before departure for the far east.
i would think so, it seems everything tends to have branding removed before a change of hands
The Stena Spirit has been involved in a collision with a gantry crane in Gdynia, it seems to have been blown towards the crane by a strong gust of wind ! and knocked the crane over, some injuries to some port workers but luckily no one killed.
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article14840931.ab
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/utenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10061581
The Stena Calendonia is scheduled for a sea trial on Sunday morning (27th May) at 10am til 12.00 as the final part of its acquisition by Indonesian shipping company, ADSP.
As previously mentioned,if the sale goes through, the delivery voyage will be a very long trip for the Belfast veteran.
Plenty of images of the vessel here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157623456676798/
and some great new images of the Belfast shipping scene:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey
Also the Stena Carisma has resumed service on the Gothenburg -Fredrickshaven route since May 13th.
wow the charisma looks amazing... how long (at a guess) would you think the caledonias journey would be
Quotewow the charisma looks amazing...
Well, if the stories are true and agreement is reached then we might just be seeing a lot more of Carisma much closer to home in the next year or two!
Good to see Caledonia on the move and fingers crossed the sale does go through, I dont think any of us thought that the two (Navigator and Caledonia particularly) would be heading on for further service.
Pete
charisma making a return?
The Stena Carisma has often been mentioned as a possible replacement for the HSS Stena Explorer on the Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead route, obviously if that took place the linkspans at both ports would have to be modified to fit the HSS 900 as opposed to the HSS 1500 series.
For Stena Charisma to move to the Irish sea would depend a lot on Stena being able to find buyers (or at least someone to charter) for the Stena Voyager and Stena Explorer , and given what happened to Stena Discovery and the fact that there are record numbers of fast craft laid up out of service across Europe (20 at last count) I cant see there being to many interested parties.
Confirmation today that the Stena Caledonia has been sold to Indonesia
and
Stena have spent some money today:
http://www.stenaline.com/en/stena-line/corporate/media/press-releases/expanding-on-the-baltic-sea/
Stena Line is expanding on the Baltic Sea
Stena Line acquires five ferry routes between Sweden and Germany to Latvia. The three routes, Travemünde to Ventspils and Liepaja as well as the route Nynäshamn-Ventspils have been acquired from Scandlines GmbH. Moreover, Stena Line has acquired Scandlines GmbH's vessels and operation on the routes between Trelleborg to Sassnitz and Rostock, which makes Stena Line the sole owner. The acquisitions are part of Stena Line's strategy of expansion into growth markets.
"Through the acquisition of the routes from Germany and Sweden to the Baltic States, we are increasing our presence in the southern Baltic and expanding our offering for both freight and passengers. Our ambition is to continue developing the new operations in order to give our customers better service and capacity," says Gunnar Blomdahl, CEO for Stena Line.
The background to the acquisition is the strong growth in sea transports to and from the Baltic region, which is expected to show continued growth. Three vessels in total, of which two are chartered, operate the routes to the Baltic States.
"Through the new routes, we are supplementing our existing network and can offer transports to and from the Baltic States," says Gunnar Blomdahl.
Apart from the purchase of the three routes between Germany and the Baltic States, Stena Line is also acquiring the vessel "Sassnitz" and the operations on the routes from Trelleborg to Rostock and Sassnitz. These routes have previous been run jointly with Scandlines GmbH, via Stena Line's subsidiary Scandlines AB, under the Scandlines Hansa brand. Stena Line will now be the sole owner of the routes, which are currently operated by four ferries. The Trelleborg routes as well as the new routes to Latvia will operate under the Stena Line brand.
In total, the transaction concerns about 300 employees in Germany and the Baltic States. The staff that are employed with Scandlines in Germany, Lithuania, Denmark and Latvia and who work on the specified routes will be offered new positions with Stena Lines.
The deal is on the assumption of approval from the German competition authorities.
QuoteFor Stena Charisma to move to the Irish sea would depend a lot on Stena being able to find buyers (or at least someone to charter) for the Stena Voyager and Stena Explorer , and given what happened to Stena Discovery and the fact that there are record numbers of fast craft laid up out of service across Europe (20 at last count) I cant see there being to many interested parties.
Economics of HSS operation are very interesting at the moment. Decent loads (numbers on the central corridor are up close on 10% so far this year) on a seasonal service with falling oil prices changes the game considerably. I couldn't even pretend to predict Stenas thinking for next year on DL-Holyhead! There is an option on a 3rd year on the current contract and obviously Stena don't want to show too much growth on the route or the cost for any future contract would rise considerably!
All of that though, does mean the sale of the Lynx at a knockdown price is even more confusing strategically! Speaking of the Lynx III, anybody know what she is up to now as Orange1. I know she is based in Busan, Korea but no idea if she is on a regular run or indeed in service at all.
Pete
QuoteEconomics of HSS operation are very interesting at the moment. Decent loads (numbers on the central corridor are up close on 10% so far this year) on a seasonal service with falling oil prices changes the game considerably. I couldn't even pretend to predict Stenas thinking for next year on DL-Holyhead! There is an option on a 3rd year on the current contract and obviously Stena don't want to show too much growth on the route or the cost for any future contract would rise considerably!
All of that though, does mean the sale of the Lynx at a knockdown price is even more confusing strategically! Speaking of the Lynx III, anybody know what she is up to now as Orange1.
As long as IF's Dublin Swift is running (and I can't see that ending given they were pretty quick to restore 2 return trips daily back when fuel prices were particularly high a couple of years ago), and as long as there's nothing like the Superfasts to replace the conventional ships on the central corridor, I would have though it would be commercial suicide to reduce Stena's fastferry service any further.
My understanding is that the Lynx III just wasn't reliable enough for the winter season and just not big enough for the summer season, so it had to go. I also think Stena have an option on DL for another 2 years, not just next year.
Interesting that you say loadings are up 10%. Is there a breakdown of this between UK and Irish originating business? Between conventional and fastferry business? Between foot passenger and vehicle business?
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As long as IF's Dublin Swift is running (and I can't see that ending given they were pretty quick to restore 2 return trips daily back when fuel prices were particularly high a couple of years ago), and as long as there's nothing like the Superfasts to replace the conventional ships on the central corridor, I would have though it would be commercial suicide to reduce Stena's fastferry service any further.
My understanding is that the Lynx III just wasn't reliable enough for the winter season and just not big enough for the summer season, so it had to go. I also think Stena have an option on DL for another 2 years, not just next year.
Interesting that you say loadings are up 10%. Is there a breakdown of this between UK and Irish originating business? Between conventional and fastferry business? Between foot passenger and vehicle business?
FastFerryFan, the current contract is an interestingly structured one. It is a 2 year contract with an option for 2013 and a further option on 2014 if it looks like a longer term contract is viable. From a business perspective the Harbour company would be anxious though to get some sort of firmer contract signed later this year/early next.
I agree totally that a Stena central corridor fastcraft is very likely to continue while Swift does (and believe me, IF are not going to take away the Swift anytime soon!).
You are right to in your assertion about the Lynx III not being a suitable vessel, particularly in the busy times or the many choppy days!
Options at this stage are either to continue with the HSS for 2013 (this is by far the most likely option so long as Explorer stays fit and well/not sold!) or to go for a smaller fastcraft by charter (plenty of them about!) like the P&O Express arrangement. Final option is the use of HSS Carisma which is being re-examined again. 900 Capacity, good sea handling and for the brand it still "looks" like a HSS.
Apparently the adjustments to the linkspans to accomodate the smaller HSS are pretty manageable and no more expensive than those required to make in particular St Michaels pier in Dun Laoghaire suitable for a larger Fastcraft. Space and draft are no problem but linkspan is definitely an issue. Docking a larger (but not HSS) fastcraft on the HSS dock (at DL or Holyhead) would require significant work with building a floating pontoon "attached" to the HSS linkspan or removing it altogether.
Personally I reckon we will probably see Explorer for another year given that fuel prices have eased considerably (down more than 30% from peak) and if a contract (2014-2017) can be negotiated then Stena and the Harbour will pay the cash jointly to adapt the HSS linkspans for Carisma.
On the passenger/car figures for this year, business from the UK is up so far this year and HSS is doing better than target I'm told.
Pete
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Personally I reckon we will probably see Explorer for another year given that fuel prices have eased considerably (down more than 30% from peak) and if a contract (2014-2017) can be negotiated then Stena and the Harbour will pay the cash jointly to adapt the HSS linkspans for Carisma.
I think you're probably spot on. A mid size vessel is what will be required longer term. Presumably it has to be weighed up quite carefully though whether the Carisma's current route can do without it. It was far easier to test out the Lynx III in 2010 because it's not as if it was doing much else between March and May and September and December.
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You are right to in your assertion about the Lynx III not being a suitable vessel, particularly in the busy times or the many choppy days!
I'm curious, why is the HSS 900 more suitable during choppy days? is it just size or some other feature unique to the HSS' design?
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You are right to in your assertion about the Lynx III not being a suitable vessel, particularly in the busy times or the many choppy days!
I'm curious, why is the HSS 900 more suitable during choppy days? is it just size or some other feature unique to the HSS' design?
Good question Rob! I had to get a marine engineer to explain this one to me. First benefit that Carisma has is her size. Generally the bigger the boat, the better she deals with the sea. Not in every case though, there have been some dodgily designed large fastcraft in the past that have not handled any seas at all well!
Second is the design of the HSS with her weight distribution, stabilisation system and while at sea, her propulsion. She is not massively bigger than IF Swift (only about 5 metres longer and a bit wider) but apparently the combination of all of the above serves her well.
Someone with more marine technology (or physics!) knowledge than me would be able to explain further but apparently this is how the irish sea (current/recent past) fastcraft rate at sea:
1. HSS Explorer/Voyager
2. HSC Mannanan
3. HSC Express
4. HSC Jonathan Swift
5. HSC Lynx iii
Pete
The HSS craft have a 'SWATH' hullform...Small Waterplane Area Twin Hull. This means that the hull is at it's thinnest at water level...if you look at the Voyager etc., you can see that each hull curves inwards as it falls to surface level. Underwater, the hulls become bulbous again, and this is where the necessary displacement is captured. Wave energy is most powerful at surface level, so minimising the cross-section at that point also minimises the impact of any waves. Not sure if I'm explaining it that well, but check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWATH for more detail.
With the HSS vessels, their simple bredth is also a big plus. The Voyager is almost 40m across (not sure about the Carisma), and that means she's much more stable in crosswind waves...two widely spaced hulls will roll much less than a single narrow hull.
QuoteThe HSS craft have a 'SWATH' hullform...Small Waterplane Area Twin Hull. This means that the hull is at it's thinnest at water level...if you look at the Voyager etc., you can see that each hull curves inwards as it falls to surface level. Underwater, the hulls become bulbous again, and this is where the necessary displacement is captured. Wave energy is most powerful at surface level, so minimising the cross-section at that point also minimises the impact of any waves. Not sure if I'm explaining it that well, but check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWATH for more detail.
With the HSS vessels, their simple bredth is also a big plus. The Voyager is almost 40m across (not sure about the Carisma), and that means she's much more stable in crosswind waves...two widely spaced hulls will roll much less than a single narrow hull.
Explained far better than I ever could, particularly the stuff about fascinating SWATH technologies - nice one Sam. In terms of width and the difference it makes, the Lynx iii was 26m accross, Mannanan 26m accross, Swift is 24.5m accross and Carisma is quite a bit wider about 31m accross. Every meter counts when you're trying to improve the ride on the Irish Sea.
Stabiliser systems seem to vary in quality and effectiveness a lot too. I haven't been on any of the newer Incat or Austal cats but in theory at least their sea-handling skills are much improved. I'm told that Norman Arrow (Kat Express) is particularly good - helped by the fact that it is nearly the size of the HSS!
Finally, never rule out the influence of a good crew too. In fairness to the crews on the Irish Sea, there are some excellent sailors at work and they work very hard to make the voyage as comfortable as possible.
Pete
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You are right to in your assertion about the Lynx III not being a suitable vessel, particularly in the busy times or the many choppy days!
I'm curious, why is the HSS 900 more suitable during choppy days? is it just size or some other feature unique to the HSS' design?
Good question Rob! I had to get a marine engineer to explain this one to me. First benefit that Carisma has is her size. Generally the bigger the boat, the better she deals with the sea. Not in every case though, there have been some dodgily designed large fastcraft in the past that have not handled any seas at all well!
Second is the design of the HSS with her weight distribution, stabilisation system and while at sea, her propulsion. She is not massively bigger than IF Swift (only about 5 metres longer and a bit wider) but apparently the combination of all of the above serves her well.
Someone with more marine technology (or physics!) knowledge than me would be able to explain further but apparently this is how the irish sea (current/recent past) fastcraft rate at sea:
1. HSS Explorer/Voyager
2. HSC Mannanan
3. HSC Express
4. HSC Jonathan Swift
5. HSC Lynx iii
Pete
Thanks Pete, and others, for the interesting replies.I've added a pic to illustrate the bulbous design as discussed.
I've always been a fan of the HSS, having travelled mostly on the HSS Discovery. I can recall her trips being cancelled quite a few times due to heavy seas, and she's had one pretty big accident when she did go out in high seas and got damaged. As far as I can track the Discovery, she is now involved in a criminal investigation in Curacao, where the owner has filled her tanks with diesel to trade illegally. She looks pretty bad too, such a crying shame.
I have often wondered, would it even be possible to convert the HSS to conventional props? As she is so uneconomical to run? (just brainstorming).
Does anyone know which ships Stena aquired in the purchase of Scandlines? Was it just the Sassnitz or were there other ships involved?
I wonder will Stena now phase out the Scandlines brand in favor of its own Stena Line brand.
My understanding is that they purchased the all the vessels and routes. They intend to rebrand the entire operation as Stena Line. The Stena and Scandlines press release links are below.
http://www.stenaline.com/en/stena-line/corporate/media/press-releases/expanding-on-the-baltic-sea/
http://www.scandlines.com/en/press/press/pressreleases-2012
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You are right to in your assertion about the Lynx III not being a suitable vessel, particularly in the busy times or the many choppy days!
I'm curious, why is the HSS 900 more suitable during choppy days? is it just size or some other feature unique to the HSS' design?
Good question Rob! I had to get a marine engineer to explain this one to me. First benefit that Carisma has is her size. Generally the bigger the boat, the better she deals with the sea. Not in every case though, there have been some dodgily designed large fastcraft in the past that have not handled any seas at all well!
Second is the design of the HSS with her weight distribution, stabilisation system and while at sea, her propulsion. She is not massively bigger than IF Swift (only about 5 metres longer and a bit wider) but apparently the combination of all of the above serves her well.
Someone with more marine technology (or physics!) knowledge than me would be able to explain further but apparently this is how the irish sea (current/recent past) fastcraft rate at sea:
1. HSS Explorer/Voyager
2. HSC Mannanan
3. HSC Express
4. HSC Jonathan Swift
5. HSC Lynx iii
Pete
Thanks Pete, and others, for the interesting replies.I've added a pic to illustrate the bulbous design as discussed.
I've always been a fan of the HSS, having travelled mostly on the HSS Discovery. I can recall her trips being cancelled quite a few times due to heavy seas, and she's had one pretty big accident when she did go out in high seas and got damaged. As far as I can track the Discovery, she is now involved in a criminal investigation in Curacao, where the owner has filled her tanks with diesel to trade illegally. She looks pretty bad too, such a crying shame.
I have often wondered, would it even be possible to convert the HSS to conventional props? As she is so uneconomical to run? (just brainstorming).
Thanks for all for these posts too, particulalry the pictures and technical information.
The HSS look like superb craft. I have never been on them, but feel they were always something of a vanity project, not unlike Concorde.
Something made out of fibre glass and aluminium riding across the Irish and North Seas doesn't make for a happy combination, as the photographs show. It's interesting to remember that Stena originally envisaged that the Discovery could run Harwich-Hook without any conventional tonnage as back up. I think it lasted about a year before they realised their error and a very expensive one it turned out to be.
When the HSS were introduced in 1996/7 the price of a barrel of oil was $60. By the time they decided to phase them out, the price was $160. Prices have fallen a little since, but I can't see a way they could ever be made to turn a profit. Stena reduced their speed and increased the ticket prices and they still couldn't be made to pay.
Last summer, I had a conversation with one of the officers on Stena Hollandica, who had also worked on Stena Discovery, and he described all of this as "the great decade-long HSS experiment." He clearly loved being an officer on Stena Discovery and said it was an amazing vessel to navigate, but had been amazed how long the Discovery had actually lasted in service. He was also unconvinced that saving three hours off the journey had been worth the investment. Indeed, the new Britannica and Hollandica seem to have proved that the additional crossing time makes no difference to customers.
I think these fast craft are great to supplement exisiting, reliable and conventional tonnage. Alone they are a disaster requiring deep pockets and/or an oil tanker floating along behind. It's no coincidence, I think, that the Discovery ended up in one of the few countries on the earth with any oil significant reserves left.
It will be interesting to see what the experience is with new Viking Line ship, Viking Grace, which will be powered by LNG engines.
Matt
QuoteDoes anyone know which ships Stena aquired in the purchase of Scandlines? Was it just the Sassnitz or were there other ships involved?
I wonder will Stena now phase out the Scandlines brand in favor of its own Stena Line brand.
This takeover is not as simple as it first appears as Stena already own a part of Scandlines called Scandlines AB, which is operated as part of Scandlines with Scandlines GMBH and they are taking full ownership of the Baltic Sea business.
The Sassnitz was the only vessel available for aquisition as the rest of the Scandlines fleet were chartered. Stena Line will take over the charter of the other vessels involved in service on the Baltic sea.
The vessels being moved to Stena are:
Sassnitz (bought)
Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (charter)
Scotish Viking (charter)
Watling Street (already Stena owned)
URD (Charter)
ASK (Charter)
Stena already own the Scandlines Hansa vessels:
Skane
Trellborg
Aurora
The scandlines sweden website:
http://www.scandlines.se
Stena and Scandlines have yet to get confirmation from the competition authority for this deal.
Not 100% certain that Ask and Urd are a part of this deal, but no doubt all information will be revealed over the next few months.
Stena have released an interesting video of the Stena Lagans refit, showing the work inside and out on the Belfast based ferry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1yt0_cPUJM&list=UUL3m9y_-6dCeywLnN8te8qA&index=1&feature=plcp
Just noticed that the former Stena Caledonia now renamed Port Link appears to have finally left Belfast after lay up en route for Gibralter then on to Indonesia. Currently at anchor off the east coast of NI which seems strange.
After some interesting "sea trials" off the County Down cost, the vessel headed almost due south at speed [up to 13kns at one time] - it then slowed down to a leisurely 7.5 kns on its journey south to Gib.
At around 04.00 Hrs [BST] the vessel again went "full ahead" and when I last looked at Marine traffic.com it was again at plus 13 kns [13.8].
Some photos of PORT LINK's final departure from Belfast are at http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey
She's made good progess, currently off Faro at 13.1 knots
Stena Line takeover of Scandlines services given the go ahead:
The German competition authority, Bundeskartellamt, has approved the deal between Stena Line and Scandlines Deutschland GmbH, which was presented on 30 May, for the acquisition of five ferry routes between Sweden and Germany to Latvia. The acquisition is part of Stena Line's strategy to expand into growth markets and it is expected to be completed by the end of August.
"The approval from the German competition authority, Bundeskartellamt, is an important step forward in this process. We are now making the acquisition and it is expected to be completed during August," says Gunnar Blomdahl, CEO for Stena Line.
The acquisition is based on the strong growth in sea transports to and from northern Europe and the Baltic States, growth which is expected to continue. The new routes to the Baltic States complement Stena Line's existing network and will strengthen its offering for both freight and passenger services. The acquisition is part of Stena Line's strategy to expand into growth markets and it is expected to be completed by the end of August. The five new routes will operate under the Stena Line brand.
About the transaction:
Stena Line is acquiring five ferry routes, operating between Sweden, Germany and Latvia, from Scandlines Deutschland GmbH. The acquisition will contribute to an increase in turnover for Stena Line of around 1 billion, to a total of about SEK 12.1 billions for 2013. The five routes are Travemünde to Ventspils and Liepaja, Nynäshamn-Ventspils as well as Trelleborg to Rostock and Sassnitz. Three ships in total operate the routes to the Baltic States, of which two are chartered and the ferry "Ask" is being bought by Stena Line. The Trelleborg routes were previously operated jointly with Scandlines GmbH, via Stena Line's subsidiary Scandlines AB, under the Scandlines Hansa brand. Stena Line will now be the sole owner of the routes, which are currently operated by four ferries in total. The acquisition also includes the ferry "Sassnitz"
Also the Port Link Ex Stena Caledonia has made it safely to Gibraltar but has been in a holding pattern, I assume waiting to be refueled.
Port Link was today passed quite a few times by her old [Belfast/Stranaer] running partner Le Rif.
Isn't Marinetraffic.com marvelous? LOL
Now heading to Malta ???
Another question that I have is what size of a crew would she have to take her to Indonesia?
Not many , 5 or 6 crew possibly.
Now refueled and under way - destination Area 4, Hong Kong
Destination is now Port Said, Egypt and the Suez Canal. She is now only about 1/4 of the way there...
(Hong Kong is actually past her ultimate destination of Indonesia).
New exterior and interior images of the Stena Europe are available to view on shipping website http://www.faktaomfartyg.nu/
http://www.faktaomfartyg.nu/extra_bilder/stena_europe_1981_omb_1.htm
http://www.faktaomfartyg.nu/extra_bilder/stena_europe_1981_omb_2.htm
http://www.faktaomfartyg.nu/extra_bilder/stena_europe_1981_omb_3.htm
The Port Link has reached Port Said, next on the voyage is the Suez Canal.
The Stena Scotia (freight vessel) has entered dry dock at H&W Belfast, one assumes the vessel will receive some additional Stena branding during the overhaul period. The Clipper Pennant is providing cover during the refit period
QuoteThe Port Link has reached Port Said, next on the voyage is the Suez Canal.
Still anchored there over 2 weeks later, wonder what the delay is?
Crew?
Payment for fuel?
Or? How much does it cost to transit the Suez Canal?
Maybe interesting times ahead?
Stena Hibernia is currently drydocking at H&W Belfast , there is expected to be a reshuffling of ships on Stena Line's UK - Holland services in the coming weeks.
From EADT24 , http://www.eadt.co.uk/business/harwich_stena_line_charters_smaller_vessels_for_rotterdam_freight_service_1_1484923
Harwich: Stena Line charters smaller vessels for Rotterdam freight service
By Duncan Brodie
Thursday, August 16, 2012
5:23 PM
FERRY operator Stene Line is to introduce smaller vessels on its Harwich-Rotterdam freight route – but insists that there will be no reduction in service to customers.
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The replacement of the current vessels, the Stena Carrier and the Stena Freighter, follows a decision by rival CLdN, part of Cobelfret, to end its Ipswich-Rotterdam service due to low volumes amid the tough economic climate.
Stena has now chartered the two vessels used on the Ipswich route, the Capucine and the Severine, and will deploy them on its Harwich-Rotterdam route from the start of next month. It says that the new vessels, one built in 2011 and the other completed this year, will enable it to improve operational efficiency.
"The market conditions for the Rotterdam-Harwich route have been very tough during the past few years, mainly due to a very competitive environment on the North Sea and the financial instability and recession," said Stena's area director, Pim de Lange.
"This has led to a low capacity utilisation of our two current vessels and a consequential poor financial development for the route."
"We need to improve efficiency and reduce our operational costs to be able to increase our competitiveness.
"With this solution we can accomplish that because we will have smaller and cheaper tonnage and, at the same time, we can carry the same volumes that we have today and deliver the same service to our customers," he added.
The closure of CLdN's Ipswich-Rotterdam route is thought to involve around 20 job losses.
CLdN has declined to comment on the closure but in a letter to customers earlier this month it said: "CLdN ro-ro SA regret to announce that under the prevailing circumstances, the board have decided to stop the service between Rotterdam and Ipswich.
"The last sailing is planned for Friday, August 17, 2012 – schedule to be confirmed. We would like to thank you for your help and support over the past years."
The loss of the route is a setback for hauliers as the location of Ipswich offered many operators a shorter road journey compared with Harwich.
The Stena Scotia currently in dry dock at H&W Belfast has been repainted and is getting the Stena Ro Ro logos applied to the hull. Images on Scott Mackeys Flickr site:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/7795269214/in/set-72157624983997347
With amazing timing, the current edition of Ferry and Cruise Review Summer 2012 contains a review of the Capucine and Severine and the Cobelfret Ipswich max service by Nick Widdows which Stena have just chartered to replace the Stena Carrier and Freighter as mentioned in the previous post.
From
http://www.ferrypubs.co.uk/news_north-sea.asp
Stena Line introduces two new vessels on Rotterdam-Harwich
16 August 2012
Pim de Lange, Stena Line area director for the business area North Sea, said: "The market conditions for the Rotterdam-Harwich route have been very tough during the past few years, mainly due to a very competitive environment on the North Sea and the financial instability and recession throughout Europe. "This has led to a low capacity utilisation of our two current vessels and a consequential poor financial development for the route." The two new vessels for the route were built in 2011 and 2012 and have a deck capacity of 1,760 lane metres. "We need to improve efficiency and reduce our operational costs to be able to increase our competitiveness. With this solution we can accomplish that because we will have smaller and cheaper tonnage and, at the same time, we can carry the same volumes that we have today and deliver the same service to our customers", Pim de Lange said.
and
Stena Line posts record H1 volumes to Holland
16 August 2012
The ferry operator increased overall number of passengers across the North Sea for the January-June period by 1.9 per cent and numbers of cars by 1.7 per cent. The numbers represent a total year-on-year increase of 4,000 passengers and 800 cars. The company achieved particularly strong results in the rail and sail 'dutchflyer' sector, where it increased numbers by 7 per cent. The Q2 results were stable, with 0.6 per cent growth in car numbers and a 0.7 drop in overall passenger numbers. Numbers of 'dutchflyer' passengers in the April-June period were particularly robust, with 11 per cent growth. Since February 2012 Stena Line has worked with rail operator Greater Anglia, which provides the train service from East Anglian stations to Harwich International. Lars Olsson, Stena Line's general manager for travel on the North Sea, said: "Stena Line is very pleased to see efforts to sustain growth on the North Sea route to Holland paying off. We're acutely aware of the difficult market conditions and have worked smartly to strengthen demand, despite the context of a slip into the UK's first double-dip recession since the 1970s. "We invested more than £375 million in our new North Sea Superferries in 2010 so continued growth is of paramount importance. Stena Line expects the sea transport sector to remain volatile throughout 2012 so will redouble its efforts, notably around the 50th anniversary of the company's founding, this September." Stena Line operates twice-daily six-hour return crossings between Harwich and the Hook of Holland, with fares starting from £59 one-way for an adult and car. Fares for Stena Line's dutchflyer rail and sail tickets start from £39 one-way, including Harwich-Hook of Holland crossing and onwards rail travel to any Dutch station.
and then (taken from FONE)
New ships for Irish Sea Belfast-Heysham Service
Stena Line today confirmed its decision to develop the Belfast â€" Heysham route through the introduction of two replacement vessels. These two new vessels, launched in Germany this year, have been chartered from SeaTruck Ferries and registered in the Isle of Man and will be renamed Stena Performer and Stena Precision. It is planned that they will enter service on the Belfast â€" Heysham route around the 12th September 2012.
These vessels were built especially for Heysham port, providing ideal fit and draught and will give almost a 30% increase in deck lane metre capacity on the route. These two vessels will be technically managed by Northern Marine Management, part of the Stena Sphere of Companies, and crewed by Northern Marine Manning Services. The Stena Hibernia and Stena Scotia will be handed over to Stena RoRo and no decision has yet been taken on their future operation.
Irish Sea Area Director Michael McGrath said: “One year on from acquiring the Belfast-Heysham route, today’s announcement represent an important milestone in Stena Line’s development programme for this important freight link between Northern Ireland and mainland UK.
This means the Stena Scotia, Stena Hibernia, Stena Carrier and Stena Freighter are to be relocated within the Stena Fleet, which one would assume will involved the Scandlines operation and the recently acquired routes in the Baltic area.
I do wish just a little bit of investment would find its way onto the Southern Irish Sea routes with the Stena Nordica and Stena Europe in need of replacement on their respective routes.
The Seatruck vessels have also been reviewed in the current edition of Ferry and Cruise Review - Summer 2012.
The Stena Hibernia has replaced the Stena Scotia in drydock at H&W Belfast. No news on their redeployment within the Stena Line network yet.
The Stena Baltica had a short spin this morning just over one year since it was laid up and is back alongside the dock in Lysekil, Sweden.
Stena have announced that it is no longer available for sale or charter and is about to be reactivated for use within the Stena group. The announcement was made on the Facebook site of Stena Line in Norway.
any idea where she is off to? id give anything to see her back in rosslare but that aint gonna happen
No idea where the Stena Baltica is going yet, but I am sure it won't be long before news is announced.
Images of the Stena Scotia (soon to depart the Irish Sea) post refit are now available and it does look really well with a fresh coat of paint.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/belfastship/7832664860/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/belfastship/7832746674/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/belfastship/7832848152/in/photostream/
and from the ever reliable Scott Mackey:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/7839740488/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/7839738918/in/photostream
It is quite possible the Seatruck pair will be rebranded in a similar colour scheme before entering service to replace the Stena Scotia and Stena Hibernia.
The Stena Baltica is due to depart from lay up in Lyeskil at the end of September and is due to proceed to drydock.
Its destination after this date is currently unknown but is reported to be a route within the exisiting Stena Line network.
http://www.lysekilsposten.se/cms/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=4416&cntnt01returnid=52
Image from the Lysekil Post Website
It has been turned around in its mooring position for lifeboat testing.
Great news that the old girl will remain on Stena duty for a while longer. I still think that the 2005 refit ruined her look.
Love the new Stena freight livery on the Scotia.
Matt
The Stena Hibernia has completed its refit in H&W Belfast and looks very well in its new paintjob.
Some very nice images available here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/belfastship/7923600526/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/belfastship/7923571880/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/belfastship/7923589508/in/photostream
Now Stena have five vessels to redeploy within the fleet as the the Stena Scotia and Stena Hibernia are taking their newly painted hulls to another route (to be replaced by two new Seatruck vessels on charter), the Stena Freighter and Stena Carrier are off to a new route (have been repalced by the Capucine and Severine on charter from CDL) though both showing Portland as a destination at the moment and the Stena Baltica is to be reactivated soon.
Seatruck Precision and Seatruck Performance in dry dock at H&W Belfast for application of new Stena Ro Ro branding
The new look Stena Precision and Stena Peformer have entered service on the Belfast - Heysham service replacing the Stena Scotia and Stena Hibernia.
The Scotia and Hibernia are laid up in Belfast awaiting redeployment within the group.
lots more images on Scott Mackeys Flickr site.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157631496681230/
QuoteDestination is now Port Said, Egypt and the Suez Canal. She is now only about 1/4 of the way there...
(Hong Kong is actually past her ultimate destination of Indonesia).
Now showing as steaming NNE east of Mumbai [Bombay].
The Capucine is now sporting the Stena Line colours on its funnel after its charter from Cldn (Cobelfret)
Port Link ex Stena Caledonia has now arrived off Colombo, Sri Lanka - possibly her final call before her ultimate destination of Jakarta. She left Belfast on Tuesday 3 July - 13 weeks ago!
Never thought is would have taken them that long to get there, the crew must be totally shattered after that trip, would imagine the Port Link is not looking too good now. I know they spent quite awhile at anchor before entering the Suez canal
Hopefully we will get some images after its been drydocked and repainted.
Under way again, destination Belawan, Sumatra, Indonesia
The Stena Hibernia has finished covering for the Stena Britannica's refit on Harwich-Hoek run and is currently laid up alongside the Stena Carrier in Portland, Dorset.
Stena currently have the Stena Scotia, Hibernia and Carrier laid up after the revamp of their freight operations on the Irish Sea and North Sea.
Stena Britannica image from www.facebook.com/StenaLineNederland
As already mentioned on the site the HSS Stena Explorer is to refit in Harland &Wolff Belfast this December before it reappears for the Christmas season on the Dun Laoghaire route.
The Explorer is due to enter dry dock on December 3rd and the refit is expected to take approx 12 days.
One wonders will some of the fixtures and fittings on the Stena Voyager be swapped to update the Explorers interior ? and will the Explorer be rebranded in the new Stena Brand Image ?
Any word on Stena Baltica?
QuoteAs already mentioned on the site the HSS Stena Explorer is to refit in Harland &Wolff Belfast this December before it reappears for the Christmas season on the Dun Laoghaire route.
The Explorer is due to enter dry dock on December 3rd and the refit is expected to take approx 12 days.
One wonders will some of the fixtures and fittings on the Stena Voyager be swapped to update the Explorers interior ? and will the Explorer be rebranded in the new Stena Brand Image ?
I sometimes wonder what these refits really entail. I recall going on the Explorer at the end of one season a couple of years ago and then again at the start of the next season, supposedly after a £1m+ refit. Some seats by the coffee bar at the front were just as tatty as they had been before. As a customer, that was the only thing I noticed that needed doing, and £1m+ later it hadn't been done.
With regard to the refits it depends on where the money is being spent, sometimes they are mechanical and safety based, other times they are specific areas on the ships, like the Stena + areas or lounges, some areas that you would thing will be revamped are sometimes left alone. Hopefully they will get to put the Voyager interior into the Explorer and at least it will get some use.
As for the Stena Baltica it appears it will not be redeployed on the Scandlines routes and will not be returning to the Irish Sea, with the number of vessels Stena have laid up I think a fleet redeployment will see some ships heading outside the route network.
Vessel - Laid up
Stena Baltica - Sweden
Stena Hibernia - Dorset
Stena Scotia - Belfast
Stena Carrier - Dorset
Stena Voyager - Belfast
There are rumours that some of the above vessels are heading to Turkey, but at the moment i have no further news on this.
As for the Voyager, I hear scrap metal prices are quite good and i suppose it would provide a lot of parts for the Explorer and draw a line under the HSS Discovery debacle and prevent a repeat of same.
Image of the Hibernia and Carrier is Portland - Dorset.
The Trelleborg has received its new Stena Line branding in Landskrona, Sweden. It is the first of the Scandlines vessels to be revamped.
image from landgangen
Just to ask, is there any reason not to just switch the voyager with the explorer, as its also a younger vessel and they want its interior?
The Trelleborg has gone back into service, but without a Stena prefix name, I assume that will follow at a later date.
Some images of its new colour scheme from landgangen.se
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=25856.msg224619#msg224619
QuoteJust to ask, is there any reason not to just switch the voyager with the explorer, as its also a younger vessel and they want its interior?
I would assume one major reason for keeping the Explorer over the Voyager is that it has not had as busy a career and has spent quite a bit of time laid up, while the Voyager was in use from delivery until last November. The Voyager has a more modern interior as it had a major refit not too long before the Superfasts were introduced and has the modern Stena interior.
Plenty of images to compare and contrast on Smac.ni's Flickr site:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157623466755204/
Could anybody remind me why it was that the Southampton-Cherbourg route was closed? I assume it was because they weren't making enough money.
Has anybody heard any rumours about Stena returning to the
western channel, especially since Brittany Ferries appear to be in difficulties?
Thanks.
Matt
From memory, I think the Southampton route was closed because it was not making any money for Stena at the time, combined with the Stena Normandy's charter to Stena Line ending. They decided to close the route, if it had been a money maker they could easily have extended the charter or got another vessel
I could be wrong about that. Some images of the routes vessel the Stena Normandy from Shipspotting.com.
There are no rumours that they are thinking of restarting the route to France at the moment, the competition out of Portsmouth with LD Lines/DFDS and Brittany Ferries would be quite intense and given the spend it would require is probably unlikely to happen.
http://www.faktaomfartyg.nu/prinsessan_birgitta_1982.htm
http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/StNicholas.html
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=42934
I note from www.faktaomfartyg.nu/prinsessan_birgitta_1982.htm that an old friend of mine, namely St Nicholas (Herwich-Hoek), Normandy (Rosslare / Cherbourg / Roscoff) has gone to the great harbour in the sky(Via Alang) :'( :'(
Thanks for that information. Sorry to hear she is no more, although she was no match for Koningin Beatrix during the Harwich-Hook days. I think Sea Containers missed a big trick not ordering a sistership at the same time as SMZ.
Matt
Ironically, I know this thread is called 'stena line fleet MOVEMENTS', but has anyone any updates on the HSS voyager?:P
The HSS Stena Voyager is expected to make its final voyage early in the new year, destination yet to be confirmed.
At this stage it is safe to assume it is unlikely to resume service with Stena Line and it will not be going to Venezuela to meet its sister vessel HSS Discovery.
After the refit of the HSS Stena Explorer in December it will have most of its interior fixtures and fittings, safety gear including Marine Evacuation System, most mechanical fittings removed and fitted to the Explorer or stored on board as the Explorer will be expected to remain in service for another season or two if not more.
The price of scrap metal is high, scrap Aluminium is worth a lot, the Voyager is worth more scrapped and stripped of parts than it is moored in Belfast harbour.
Unfortunately the circumstances outlined are probably going to mean that the first HSS to be scrapped will be the Voyager, a sad end to a great experiment which with hindsight the Stena management probably regret investing in.
Having said all the above, both the Explorer and Voyager have appeared for sale.
http://www.mondialbroker.com/detail.taf?B=345421&K=BPS
http://photo.mondialbroker.net/brokers/5997/_docs/345421_291591.pdf
Giftgrub,
The two HSS' have been offered for sale quite a few times in recent years. Stena would doubtless be delighted to get someone to buy them but given the fuel costs and the linkspan costs, it's quite unlikely.
In the meantime, I think the scenario you mentioned above about stripping out Voyager to upgrade Explorer will go ahead and even then, Voyager can be kept in skeletal form if a buyer does appear!
Pete
for accuracy, the hss disocvery is not in venezula, but in the dutch island of Curacao (and has been for a while). I have done a quick check (I am Dutch) and it is still laid up there, as it is involved in a criminal investigation into its owner, who has transported illegal diesel in the ballast tanks. It will be relocated to another pier in the near future. It was also reported that the owner is still paying the harbour fees for now. she looks like hell lol.
Hi Rob, Thanks for the update, learn something new everyday.
Images of the Discovery laid up in Curacao below from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HSS_Discovery_in_Curacao.jpg
and
Shipspotting.com
on an unrelated note curacao is an absolutely beautiful island, a real paradise
how come normandy was scrapped? seems quite young, same age as the europe too, does this indicate that the end could be in sight for the europe too
Great photos Giftgrub, haven't seen any shots of her since she moved. She really does look rough though, I can't imagine that she is in good shape mechanically either.
Did she ever enter revenue earning service in Venezuela or did the lack of linkspans stop her before she started? Rob, from what you can gather is she likely to work again or will the legal knots and lack of a company that can run her lead to her demise? A sad way to end up.
Pete
Pete,
As far as I know, the HSS discovery has never sailed commercially since its time under Stena Line. Of course it was the worst business decision ever to buy the ship without the ability to dock it, right?
After a few years doing nothing, she sailed to curaçao to attract capital for repairs. However, in addition, the 'owner' decided it was a good business proposition to smuggle 360.000 litres of diesel to the port in 9 tanks (probably the tanks used to get her to Venezuela from Belfast). Without having declared it, 240.000 litres disappeared, probably sold off. The ship has been laid up since pending the legal procedings against the owner.
Technically, I think I read somewhere that two of her jets are inoperative. This is also how she made it to curacao (only two functioning, see picture). Also attached another picture of her poor state. I think she won't be capable of much any more of this keeps up.
Sorry for the big first picture, no idea how to downscale it.
Also, what the heck happened to the HSS' rear?
Great pictures again Rob, thanks!
It's just really odd seeing her tied up at anywhere other than a HSS Linkspan. I'm guessing the black mess on the rear is down to a neighbouring vessel while she was in Venezuela rather than a fire!
The story about the smuggled diesel really is incredible stuff but sadly seems to match in with her fortunes since she arrived there. Interestingly, her AIS is functioning again and has her with a new arrival time in Caracao (I'm guessing at the main port rather than where she is now) of November 24th. Yet another chapter to be written it seems!
Pete
There are more images of the Discovery on Page 19 of this thread. The black area at the stern has been caused by the onboard diesel generators exhausting underneath at the back of the vessel, not any fire damage.
some shaky camcorder footage of the vessel laid up here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSs6VPzlkwY
Confirmation that the Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey are to undergo further modifications to improve the onboard passenger experience has been posted on the Figura website.
http://www.figura.com/Figura/news.html
We are currently working on some projects for Stena Line. The Mersey and Lagan had a facelift in the forward area early this year and has been very succesful. We are now continuing with the mid area and are implementing a Barista and Living Room concept.
Stena Line took over the Scandlines ships on the Trelleborg route and we are implementing the Strena concepts on that route.
Hopefully they will handle this part of the refit better than the featured refit in the Undercover Boss programme !
Two impressive images from Marinetraffic.com
Have to say, those ships look far better in the Stena livery than they ever did in the old Norfolk Line colours...
Yes, amazing what a fresh coat of paint can do to the look of a ferry.
As December approaches its time to consider the forthcoming refits for the Stena Line Irish Sea fleet.
As already mentioned the HSS Stena Explorer is in first on December 3rd for a two week refit prior to resuming service for the Christmas season on the Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead route.
Stena Europe will normally refit in January - Nothing Confirmed.
Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey - Nothing Confirmed
Stena Superfast VIII & VII are expected to refit in February.(VIII first and the VII following)
Stena Adventurer & Stena Nordica - Nothing Confirmed
Given that Stena have 3 freight vessels laid up, it is possible that the Stena Scotia, Stena Hibernia or Stena Carrier could provide cover for the refit period allowing one of the passenger vessels to provide cover on the routes that need passenger capacity.
For Example - Substitute freight vessel for either the Lagan or Mersey and allow one of them to cover the Superfasts, Europe and Nordica/Adventurer refits or substitute Nordica and allow it to cover the Superfasts, Europe refits. All depends on bookings for the respective routes but would be interesting to see the Lagan/Mersey on the Rosslare route for a few weeks.
"Hopefully they will handle this part of the refit better than the featured refit in the Undercover Boss programme !"
Couldn't agree more! I suspect a refurbished crew area will also be part of this refit. If you recall, Gunnar Blomdahl was pretty appalled they had spent all the money on the passenger areas and the crew quarters looked like a slum!
Matt
Obscure question of the week:
Does anyone know of, or have, any pictures/videos of the current Stena Hollandica/Britannica doing the 180 degree turn off the Harwich International berth, please?
If you go on youtube there are some great videos of the Hollandica turning off the berth at the Hook of Holland, but I haven't found any similar ones at Harwich. I suspect it's because it is very difficult to photograph/film unless you are at Shotley, on the other side of the river Stour.
Similarly, any of Koningin Beatrix would be great. I tried to take one years ago, but my zoom lens wasn't good enough to take a picture from Ha'penny pier.
Thanks.
Matt
The Stena Hibernia is in the Baltic and according to marine traffic comencing service on Helsingborg - Travemunde, I assume it has been chartered as Stena do not operate on this route.
Could be charted to this shipping company:
http://www.sollines.se/
Very nice image of the Stena Baltica at lay up in Lysekil, Sweden on the link below:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hjakse/8085340704/
The accident report in relation to the Stena Feronias collison with the Union Moon has been published. It can be downloaded from here:
http://www.maib.gov.uk/publications/investigation_reports/2012/stena_feronia_and_union_moon.cfm
Interesting reading...
The Stena Precision and Stena Performer Will be Join The Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey on The Birkenhead - Belfast in January
The Stena Precision and Stena Performer are NOT being transferred to the Belfast - Birkenhead route, they will be remaining in service on their current route from Belfast - Heysham.
In the event of them being unable to birth in Heysham due to bad weather they can of course divert to Birkenhead but will not be joining the Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey on the Birkenhead route.
One change for the Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey that will happen in the future is that once the Stena Voyager has been removed from Belfast, the HSS berth will be dismantled and Stena will create a new ferry berth alongside the Superfast berth at VT4.
Giftgrub, do you have an idea as to when voyager will leave belfast? Is she able to power herself to whatever new destination?
QuoteGiftgrub, do you have an idea as to when voyager will leave belfast? Is she able to power herself to whatever new destination?
Weird how we lost a few days of posts so lets take up where we left off!
HSS Explorer is awake again in Holyhead and has been running up her engines in prep for a trip to Belfast for refit over the weekend. Will almost certainly be the last chance to see her and Voyager together before the latter heads off and Explorer heads back to Holyhead before resuming service on the Dun Laoghaire run (1030 ex Holyhead, 1330 ex DL) on December 20th. She works until January 5th and then returns to the run on Friday March 22nd until September 10th.
Some changes too on the Nordica schedule for the new year. The old 4pm sailing from Dublin Port is now advanced to 1510 and the 2130 from Holyhead is now 2030. The morning departure from Holyhead is now 0855 rather than 0820.
Pete
You know I thought I was going crazy as I thought I saw more posts and then there were less haha. We all say voyager will head off soon but is there any proof or are we just speculating? I don't understand why not even a sjeik from Dubai wants to buy it!
QuoteSome changes too on the Nordica schedule for the new year. The old 4pm sailing from Dublin Port is now advanced to 1510 and the 2130 from Holyhead is now 2030. The morning departure from Holyhead is now 0855 rather than 0820.
The Nordica has been on tis route since 2008; can't believe it has taken this long to make these changes. The 9.30pm departure was far too late for any family with its 00.45 arrival time and the 8.20am with a 45 minute minimum arrival time far too early.
In another 4 years, they'll be allowing foot passengers too!
QuoteQuoteSome changes too on the Nordica schedule for the new year. The old 4pm sailing from Dublin Port is now advanced to 1510 and the 2130 from Holyhead is now 2030. The morning departure from Holyhead is now 0855 rather than 0820.
The Nordica has been on tis route since 2008; can't believe it has taken this long to make these changes. The 9.30pm departure was far too late for any family with its 00.45 arrival time and the 8.20am with a 45 minute minimum arrival time far too early.
In another 4 years, they'll be allowing foot passengers too!
Aside from the lack of gangways (inexplicable in my view) why don't they allow foot passengers?
Matt
HSS Explorer is awake again in Holyhead and has been running up her engines in prep for a trip to Belfast for refit over the weekend. Will almost certainly be the last chance to see her and Voyager together before the latter heads off and Explorer heads back to Holyhead before resuming service on the Dun Laoghaire run (1030 ex Holyhead, 1330 ex DL) on December 20th.
Noted leaving Holyhead at 04:15 this morning.
A few good images of the Explorer in Belfast this morning.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/8241254476/in/photostream
Great images :)
Does anybody know when the explorer will leave Belfast again?
Wonder why Stena decided on another refit for her when the voyager is lying there idle and is laid out better for passengers than the explorer.
nice pictures indeed. Hopefully we will see some of her in the actual dock too, always imposing to see it out of the water. As to the voyager;I didn't understand it either but one plausible reason could be that explorer is simply in a much better state technically.
Here's a thought. . . .
Explorer took around four and a half hours to reach Belfast from Holyhead.
I wonder is there a business case for Voyager to operate out and back journeys from Belfast to Holyhead with one crew, maybe every other day?
After all, the linkspans are in place in both Belfast and Holyhead.
Your thoughts please.
QuoteI wonder is there a business case for Voyager to operate out and back journeys from Belfast to Holyhead with one crew, maybe every other day?
Would be an expensive ticket, I would've thought. Would also compete with Stena's own Liverpool run - which has a much better dropping-off point for anyone travelling to England. The road in from Holyhead's a decent one, but it's still a long trek through North Wales to get anywhere (unless you're holidaying in the area)...
The Stena Explorer is in Belfast for a mechanical overhaul and replacement of some safety systems including the Marine Evacuation System, Renewal of safety certificates etc. They are not changing any of the internal fixtures and fittings. They will be giving it some repainting where necessary and sending it back to Holyhead within the next 12/14 days.
The Stena Voyager, having been laid up in a dormant state for the last 12 months is not returning to service and will never see commercial service again, it has donated some parts for the Explorer including the Marine Evacuation System. As mentioned on another forum, the Voyager is likely to be scrapped by Stena and turned back into Aluminium.
QuoteHere's a thought. . . .
Explorer took around four and a half hours to reach Belfast from Holyhead.
I wonder is there a business case for Voyager to operate out and back journeys from Belfast to Holyhead with one crew, maybe every other day?
After all, the linkspans are in place in both Belfast and Holyhead.
Your thoughts please.
Stena Lagan/Mersey completes their journeys to Belfast/Birknhead in 8 hours by travelling on average about 20/21 knots.
If Stena were to bring the Voyager to the liverpool service at full speed, thats only 4 hours..
IMO it would be nice to see the voyager return for seasonal services like Explorer and P&O express.
P&O express done the larne/cairnryan in 1 hour port to port. Wonder if Stena made a loss this year because of it.
I just miss the HSS :)
Nothing to do with the Irish Sea, but here is how they painted the Trelleborg. One of the ferries from the Scandlines fleet which was recently given a fresh coat of paint and the Stena Line branding.
[media width=600]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcK4uRoo0uk[/media]
"As mentioned on another forum, the Voyager is likely to be scrapped by Stena and turned back into Aluminium."
And not a moment too soon. The sooner both of these incredibly awful vessels are recycled into aluminium, the better. :)
so you're saying you prefer any other bulky monohull ferry to the HSS' catamaran figure? Interesting how tastes differ :). apart from its obvious flaws this 'awful' ferry took me across the north channel in less than fours in stead of more than 8, and I'm glad of it. Personally I find it a shame it is being scrapped. At the very least it would make for a nice museum like they have in New York. :D
The HSS concept was an evolutionary dead end, a bit like passenger/car ferry hovercraft. The ships themselves were tacky and had had every milligram of the maritime experience squeezed out of them - terrible outside deck space and the interior was like a floating burger bar. They had the ambience of a downmarket Burger King. Stena Line are a fine shipping company and their more recent vessels are very good indeed, particularly the Superfasts and the Stena Lagan and Mersey. But they dropped a clanger with the HSS concept and the sooner they are turned into baked bean cans on the shelves of Tesco the better.
AJS
Quote"As mentioned on another forum, the Voyager is likely to be scrapped by Stena and turned back into Aluminium."
And not a moment too soon. The sooner both of these incredibly awful vessels are recycled into aluminium, the better. :)
What a load of bull
These were the best ships that sailed on the Irish sea routes and still ahead of their time
I for 1 will never go on the slow boats they have now as they have gone back 10 years in my eyes
QuoteThe HSS concept was an evolutionary dead end, a bit like passenger/car ferry hovercraft. The ships themselves were tacky and had had every milligram of the maritime experience squeezed out of them - terrible outside deck space and the interior was like a floating burger bar. They had the ambience of a downmarket Burger King. Stena Line are a fine shipping company and their more recent vessels are very good indeed, particularly the Superfasts and the Stena Lagan and Mersey. But they dropped a clanger with the HSS concept and the sooner they are turned into baked bean cans on the shelves of Tesco the better.
AJS
Absolutely, I couldn't agree more! I've posted before that they were the concord of the seas. Like every fast craft before them, they were scuppered as soon as the cost of oil
rocketed. Then we had the Stena Discovery being damaged by a freak wave and a lorry falling out of it and to the bottom of the North Sea, with no conventional ships at the time to cover for its absence. As I recall, passengers were sent to Dover instead. Unless and until you can get a propulsion system with vastly reduced fuel costs and a hull which is much more robust, these craft are just vanity projects. I don't doubt for a moment the marvel of marine engineering the HSS represents, or the reduced journey time, but it's conventional tonnage all the way for me.
I would also be interested to know whether Stena has in any way recouped the total value of the investment with the three HSS 1500 and the smaller 900. I doubt it.
Your Burger King analogy is quite apt as it is a little known fact that Stena held the Burger King franchise in Sweden and, I think, other Scandinavian countries in the late 1980s. It was disposed of around the same time as the ill-fated British Columbia Stena Line project at the time when James Sherwood forced Stena to pay over the odds for Sealink British Ferries in 1990.
Matt
Quoteso you're saying you prefer any other bulky monohull ferry to the HSS' catamaran figure? Interesting how tastes differ :).
Of all the catamarans to ply the Irish Sea, the HSS is by far the least visually attractive - all those angles and straight lines do it no favours at all. And, as others have said, it never really felt like a boat when you were on board.
Bring back the SeaCats... :)
QuoteQuote. It was disposed of around the same time as the ill-fated British Columbia Stena Line project at the time when James Sherwood forced Stena to pay over the odds for Sealink British Ferries in 1990.
Matt
Stena had a British Columbia Project? I would like to hear more about that .... As it happens, through work, I am getting a tour of the current BC Ferries operations centre and drydock on Saturday morning.
QuoteOf all the catamarans to ply the Irish Sea, the HSS is by far the least visually attractive - all those angles and straight lines do it no favours at all. And, as others have said, it never really felt like a boat when you were on board.
Bring back the SeaCats... :)
The angles and lines are just a function of the time it was built in the same way that the angles and lines on other modes of transport (cars / trains / buses) have been smoothed out.
As regards it not feeling like a boat - that's why it was so good; fast journey, quick to load and quick to unload. If I wanted to take all day getting there and saunter about on the deck, I'd book a cruise holiday. The only scenario I can think of where I might take the opposite view is if were driving a lorry all day, when a longer ferry journey would give more time for resting.
QuoteQuoteQuote. It was disposed of around the same time as the ill-fated British Columbia Stena Line project at the time when James Sherwood forced Stena to pay over the odds for Sealink British Ferries in 1990.
Matt
Stena had a British Columbia Project? I would like to hear more about that .... As it happens, through work, I am getting a tour of the current BC Ferries operations centre and drydock on Saturday morning.
Yes they did. In 1988, they acquired a majority share in the British Columbia Steamship company's Seattle-Victoria ferry line service from the BC government. They ran two ferries, the Princess Margherite and the Vancouver Island Princess. They refurbished both vessels, which dated from the 1940s I think, but never made any money on them, which they blamed on high operating costs etc. For example, they had casinos on board and were forced to use them only when the ships were in international waters; this didn't make them terribly profitable. They also reduced the passenger numbers to about 800.
Long story short, they tried to sell the ships, but there were clauses in the original sale contract, in addition to the BC Govt owning a minority stake, which prevented this from happening. It caused a terrible to-do at the time I think. See the link below for the full detail.
http://www.historylink.org/index.cfm?DisplayPage=output.cfm&File_Id=7478
It was a short-lived affair and I think Stena pulled out in 1991 having lost a lot of money. This was at a time when the early 1990s recession was starting to bite and they realised they had paid over the odds for Sealink British Ferries, having splurged on investment in new ships for various routes, including Dover-Calais, for Sealink Stena Line.
This led to Stena Line AB, which was then listed on the Swedish stock market, being technically insolvent for most of the 1990s. They had to issue a series of debentures and share issues in Sweden, which would have dragged down any other company. They were fortunate that Stena Line was part of the wider Stena group which is linked to the deep pockets of the Olsson family. This was one of the reasons why Dan Sten Olsson took the company private again 2000, where it has remained ever since. In addition, Stena AB, the parent company has diversified considerably since then. If you look at the latest Annual Report, Stena Line only contributes 30% of the "Stena Sphere" and Stena Ro/Ro, which builds and charters all of the ferries, is a mere 1%.
Hope little history is helpful and enjoy the trip on Saturday!
Matt
Regardless of your opinion on the Stena HSS project, feast your eyes on the images of the HSS Stena Explorer in dry dock at H&W Belfast.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/8250879472/in/photostream/
Amazing how clean the hulls are, after more than two years since its last drydocking.
A big thank you to Scott Mackey for posting these images, his Flickr site contains plenty of fantastic images.
Having done some research into the fuel consumption of the HSS, this could well be the Explorers last time in dry dock before it joins the Voyager at the recycling yard before being made in drinks cans, Stena Metall will be busy.
Thanks Matt73 for the info and link. Very interesting.
BTW great pics of HSS.
Unbelievable that sten would scrap those as they are totally state of the art as opposed to the clapped out old superfasts
QuoteUnbelievable that sten would scrap those as they are totally state of the art as opposed to the clapped out old superfasts
"Clapped out old"? The Superfasts are four years younger than the Voyager (Voyager launched 1996, Superfast VII & VIII both launched 2000). Considerably nicer on board, too, IMO.
Neither of which would matter if the HSS ships weren't so thirsty, admittedly. Not so state-of-the-art on that front. :)
True. Wouldnt putting some other form of "engine" in the hss" be an option? Smaller turbines, conventional engines for example? I have wondered sometimes how removable the turbines would be.
QuoteTrue. Wouldnt putting some other form of "engine" in the hss" be an option? Smaller turbines, conventional engines for example? I have wondered sometimes how removable the turbines would be.
Fair question...but I suspect it would be a major job to re-engineer the hulls to accept anything else. The engines will be mounted on some form of plinth or jig, which will be specific to them. The hullform is probably also optimised around the current engines. Then there is the plumbing (air intakes and exhausts) through the hull...all of this will need to be modified. Then a big issue would be weight and balance...a big diesel would probably be much heavier (not to mention physically larger) than the equivalent turbine, so the vessel would be inadequately trimmed. Also, a diesel would need a mighty big gearbox to provide the right shaft speed for the pumpjets.
The HSS will have been designed specifically around the propulsion package that was installed. So to fit another form of propulsion would at very least 'de-optimise' the vessel. And then it has to be cost-justified...probably a difficult sell!
The HSS is a fabulous piece of engineering...I have been on it when the captain announed we were travelling at 60 knots! And smooth as silk. It really did have a place with oil at $30 / barrel, but sadly, it's out of step with todays world. We should be thankful we were one of three routes to enjoy the HSS1500. Saying that, there's still nothing to beat the feel of salt air in your face, on the open deck of an 'old-fashioned' ship, and feeling the vibration of a marine diesel in your feet. We should be glad we have the Superfasts now!
The HSS is ugly/beautiful debate is always a good one :)
She's on her way back to Holyhead now, should be back in a couple of hours. Mechanically all is good, she's doing nearly 40 knots down the coast of Northern Ireland at the moment! I'm still amazed (and delighted) that she lives to fight another year in 2013.
Pete
Just over 40 knots now..
Pity she only goes 25 knots service speed.. Miss the days she was at 40 knot service speed.
Great to see they can still work the engines every now and again.
Some great images of the Explorer leaving Belfast on the ever reliable Scott Mackey flickr site.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey
Also some reports on FONE that the Stena Nordica will be providing refit cover for the Stena Europe and the Stena Superfast VII & VIII in January/ February 2013, one assumes the Stena Scotia will cover for the Nordica on Dublin - Holyhead if this is correct.
And also on Stena's Facebook site it was mentioned that the cabins are to be refurbished on the next overhaul/refit, which would be interesting.
from Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/StenaLineUKIE
"thanks for your feedback, which we will take into account during our refit of the Stena Europe cabins in January."
Excellent pics... Probably the last time they'll both be seen together..
Is there any insiders of Stena on this forum? Wonder if there is any debate at all about the Voyager returning to service from Belfast.
Im no business know it all but Stena must have lost money this year on the service with the superfasts to P&O when they had theyre express on..
If only the Voyager came back for a seasonal service.. Now that the port in Loch Ryan is 8 miles north from Cairnryan, Im sure she could complete the journey in 1 hour.
Unfortunately it looks like the next trip for the HSS Voyager is to the scrap yard where is will be turned in to raw aluminium with the VT4 HSS berth converted for the Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey.
The cost of running the HSS at full speed is horrendous and the Superfasts are much more efficient than the HSS.
To give you some idea, in the book Stena Line - The Story of a Ferry company the bunkering for the HSS in one 24 hr period is 480 tonnes, as far as I know the cost of a round trip for the Superfast is 10 tonnes of fuel, thats a total of 6 round trips a day for the two Superfasts, total fuel used 60 tonnes a saving of 420 tonnes of fuel in a 24 hr period.
Obviously running the HSS at a slower speed saves a lot of fuel but the Superfasts are not going to be leaving anytime soon.
http://www.breakwater.se/product_info.php?products_id=263
Good point.
Weird to see the way Holyhead gets another season but the Belfast route hasnt been considered.
I was speaking to a crew member on the Navigator on one of the ships last days and in todays climate it costs Stena£10,000-£15,000 in fuel for one round trip compared to £2,000 for the conventional ferries.
With the January refit season fast approaching, it is going to be the Stena Nordica providing cover for the Stena Europe and Stena Superfasts VII & VIII, however the Stena Scotia is unlikely to provide cover for the Stena Nordica as it does not have any passenger capacity, it is rumoured that one of the Birkenhead vessels will cover for the Nordica on the Dublin - Holyhead route with another vessel to be chartered to cover the Stena Lagan or Mersey.
The Stena Scotia and Stena Hibernia have also been listed for sale despite only recently getting the new Stena branding.
http://www.mondialbroker.com/detail.taf?B=349400&K=BPS
Another fact from reading the new book Stena Line - The story of a ferry company, in 1992 the two top performing routes in the Stena Route network were Gothenburg - Fredrickshavn and Rosslare - Fishguard !!
Is the book you refer to available for sale anywhere?
Thanks
Matt
The book Stena Line - The Story of a ferry company is available from a Swedish website in English text.
http://www.breakwater.se/product_info.php?products_id=263
I was unable to buy it direct from their website, but emailed them and they arranged for me to pay them directly and they dispatched the book on a Monday, I got it on the following Friday. It cost €53 delivered which is expensive but it is a 400+ page book with lots of information.
It was published primarily for in house use to celebrate their 50th anniversary but is available for purchase in either Swedish or English, just make sure you order the English version.
It is mentioned on FONE that the Stena Lagan will be providing cover for the Stena Nordica during the refit season on the Dublin - Holyhead route, and the Finnarrow will be chartered to cover for the Stena Lagan on Belfast - Birkenhead.
The Finnarrow is a vessel well known to Stena Line as it was previously chartered for the Karlskrona - Gydnia and Harwich - Hoek routes.
It will be interesting to see how the Stena Lagan performs on the Dublin - Holyhead route as it is stern loading only and Stena have quite a few of these Visentini built vessels in their fleet !!
[media width=600]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d86n1uluY5o[/media]
Originally posted on FONE is this very interesting interview with a Stena Line manager in relation to the Harwich operation.
http://www.eadt.co.uk/business/insight/harwich_stena_line_remains_buoyant_amid_choppy_waters_1_1744803
FERRY firms everywhere are facing the challenges of high fuel costs, a recession-fuelled slowdown, and new environmental requirements............ (click above link to read more)
[media width=600]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUFTHx9Ow3E[/media]
Could the Stena Baltica be heading in this direction soon.
http://www.stenasealine.com/
The Stena Spirit is heading for dry dock soon and will not be replaced on the Karlskrona route to the Stena Vision will cover that route on its own.
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/ferry/press/pressreleaser/dry-docking-stena-spirit-2013/~/media/Spirit%20Shipyard%202013.ashx
The Sassinitz is currently being rebranded to Stena Line from Scandlines - a work in progress image below
Stena Line have changed around the refit cover schedule for Jan- Feb on the Irish Sea.
The Finnarrow will now replace the Stena Nordica on the Dublin - Holyhead route allowing the Nordica to cover for the Stena Europe and Stena Superfast VII & VIII refits/overhauls. The Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey will remain on the Belfast - Birkenhead routes.
So whats going to cover for the Stena Adventurer when she goes to drydock in April?
QuoteThe book Stena Line - The Story of a ferry company is available from a Swedish website in English text.
http://www.breakwater.se/product_info.php?products_id=263
I was unable to buy it direct from their website, but emailed them and they arranged for me to pay them directly and they dispatched the book on a Monday, I got it on the following Friday. It cost €53 delivered which is expensive but it is a 400+ page book with lots of information.
It was published primarily for in house use to celebrate their 50th anniversary but is available for purchase in either Swedish or English, just make sure you order the English version.
By a comedy of errors, I have ended up with two copies of this book, having ordered a completely different one!
It is in mint condition and still in the jiffy bag.
If anybody would like to buy it off me, please message me privately.
Thanks
Matt
QuoteSo whats going to cover for the Stena Adventurer when she goes to drydock in April?
Usually the HSS does an extra sailing. I'm sure it's been deliberately scheduled for when the HSS is operating again. When in April is it off schedule?
Speaking of HSS, any movement for the Voyager yet?
QuoteQuoteSo whats going to cover for the Stena Adventurer when she goes to drydock in April?
Usually the HSS does an extra sailing. I'm sure it's been deliberately scheduled for when the HSS is operating again. When in April is it off schedule?
Not too sure, but heard it's going to Falmouth and they will be doing a major passenger area refit.
Ok the HSS may take the passengers but what about the freight, they chartered in a ship the last time she went to drydock.
Thinking back, I think it was the European Endeavor that they chartered in last time but P&O are using her themselves at the moment.
Hello, just joined IF last week and I wanted to take this opportunity to write my first post on the first thread I saw on this forum.
Both the Stena Carrier and Stena Freighter have been chartered to Transfennica to operate between Zeebrugge-Bilbao and because of a joint agreement with P&O, they will be using the P&O berths at Zeebrugge. It's great to see them chartered out so quickly.
As for the Central Corridor, it was the Norman Trader (sister to Endeavour) that covered the Holyhead-Dublin route, when the Stena Adventurer was away.
Personally, I can see Stena doing the following:
1) leaving just the Nordica and Explorer operating and any extra capacity will be shuttled by Irish Ferries (similar to what happened at Pembroke/Fishguard-Rosslare)
2) They use the Finnarrow again
3) They use the Norman Trader again
4) They charter a spare Seatruck vessel which uses either their own berths or the other Irish Ferries berth.
1 or 2 are probably the most likely.
Yeah it was the Norman Trader that replaced the Adventurer, I remember it now, thanks for that :)
Stena Line have chartered the Clipper Pennant from Seatruck, for two years, will we see it placed on the Dublin - Holyhead route ???
Where did you hear about that? I don't know where she'll go, unless Stena need extra capacity on the Irish Sea or maybe the Baltic and North Seas. Although why they can't use the Stena Scotia I don't know.
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Clipper-Pennant.aspx
Currently laid up in Birkenhead, but is on the Stena Ro Ro site.
QuoteIt is mentioned on FONE that the Stena Lagan will be providing cover for the Stena Nordica during the refit season on the Dublin - Holyhead route, and the Finnarrow will be chartered to cover for the Stena Lagan on Belfast - Birkenhead.
The Finnarrow is a vessel well known to Stena Line as it was previously chartered for the Karlskrona - Gydnia and Harwich - Hoek routes.
It will be interesting to see how the Stena Lagan performs on the Dublin - Holyhead route as it is stern loading only and Stena have quite a few of these Visentini built vessels in their fleet !!
The Finnarrow is now underway to Holyhead.
Yes, The Finnarrow has left Travemunde with destination Holyhead via Nok.
She will arrive on Wednesday morning at 10.00 and take up service on Friday at 2030 ex Holyhead - 24 hours later than planned. Stena Europe will now not arrive at Belfast for refit until Sunday morning 20th Jan, also 24 hours later than planned.
Wonder will the Stena Europe or Nordica receive the "Making Good Time" Branding and Blue Wave the rest of the Stena fleet have got ?
So the Finnarrow is covering the Nordica and then after she comes back from a refit she'll be covering the Europe then the Superfasts?
I wonder what's going to happen to the Stena Scotia, Stena Hibernia and the Clipper Pennant over the next few months.
Note: Nordica covering Europe & Superfasts.
Finnarrow has arrived on the Central Corridor now.
Image of the Finnarrow, not looking to pretty arriving at Holyhead yesterday (16th Jan).
The Finnarrow will take up the Stena Nordica schedule with the 20.30 sailing from Holyhead on Friday, the Stena Nordica will then head to Fishguard and replace the Stena Europe on Saturdays 14.30 crossing to Rosslare.
The Europe is expected in Belfast on Sunday morning and will share the drydock at H&W Belfast with the P&O Express, assuming there are no surprises when out of the water the Stena Europe is in Belfast for essential maintenance to be carried out and the usual exterior paint work renewal.
The Stena Europe is expected back in service on Thursday 31st January on the 14.30 ex Fishguard.
One interesting option for anyone travelling on the Stena Nordica is the option of reserving one of the private lounges available on board the Nordica, something that Stena might add at some stage to some more vessels.
Once the Nordica is finished in Rosslare it will then head to the North Channel and replace the Stena Superfast VIII from February 1st and the Stena Superfast VII from the 14th Feb.
When does the Nordica herself go for a refit?
Not a very good start for the Finnarrow, she couldn't alongside Holyhead today due to the weather. The Ulysses & Adventurer came and went and she was still waiting outside. I bet there were some angry passengers on that ship.
She seems to have berthed in Holyhead now.
Last I heard she was trying again at 4pm this afternoon.
I might be losing my mind on this one but as far as I knew, Finnarow wasn't due to take up duty until tonight at 8.30pm (having run empty from Dublin yesterday after berthing trials). So she was going around in circles today (while others were on berth) yep, but without passengers.
Was berthed last night (once the others had left) and came back on to the berth this afternoon in advance of her 8.30 departure tonight. On her way now at 19 knots.
Pete
Not just you losing your mind, i thought the same??
Ooops very sorry everyone. It appears I was given the wrong information. :-[
You would think in his position he would know better >:(
LOL! Well the Finnarrow has now taken over from the Stena Nordica, with the latter vessel in Rosslare. Is the Nordica scheduled a refit this year or do Stena alternate the refits between her and the Adventurer every year (i.e. 1 year Adventurer; next year Nordica)?
Also does anyone know where the Clipper Pennant is going? I honestly can't think of a suitable Stena Line route for her, let alone sustain her for 2 years.
There are some really impressive images of the Stena Europe in drydock in Belfast now available for viewing on Scott Mackeys flickr site:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/8405062863/in/photostream
Plenty Interior Images of the Europe
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/8406059104/in/photostream/
For a vessel that has had a very busy 12 months, the Europe looks in good condition
Also some mages of the Finnarrow arriving in Dublin
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/8405025223/in/photostream/
I would think the Clipper Pennant could be heading for use on the North Sea with Stena Line, possibly an additional route between Holland and the UK ?
Stena Nordica will stay on the Dublin-Holyhead run beyond 2014. As for Stena Europe she'll remain at Fishguard until end of next year. Stena will then have to decide what to replace her with or close down the route.
QuoteAs for Stena Europe she'll remain at Fishguard until end of next year. Stena will then have to decide what to replace her with or close down the route.
Why?
Stena Baltica has been sold to SNAV Italy according to reports on FONE and Shippax
http://www.torremare.net/marittimi/3043ms.htm
Also I would doubt very much that closure is an option for Rosslare - Fishguard, some wise investment in a good quality vessel will bring about a significant uplift in the route, for example the investment on the North Channel operation has brought about a 60% increase in freight traffic and 9% increase in passengers in just 12 months, that involved two new ferries and one new port, for Rosslare they require one new vessel, one new linkspan in Fishguard and one in Rosslare (if they go double deck loading).
Well the question is, what would be a good vessel for the route? Many have said that the Baltica would be the best one for the route, but if she's been sold to SNAV (which is good, if it's true), then obviously Stena will have to look for another alternative vessel- maybe one of their new Baltic ships or if Finnlines don't want her, the Finnarrow.
Another idea has just popped into my head: would the Isle of Innisfree be a good vessel for the route? I'm sure there is a clause in the agreement which says Stena can't operate an ICG vessel against an ICG route.
As for the Clipper Pennant, that's possible and the route that springs to mind is Harwich-Europoort, as the vessels are of a similar size. But then I think, why remove 2 big vessels, replace them with 2 smaller vessels because the traffic has declined, then place a 3rd small vessel on the route, so I don't think it's likely.
However, the other option is that she operates somewhere on the Irish Sea, perhaps providing additional capacity between Liverpool/Heysham-Belfast or travelling to the Baltic to operate there.
Time will tell I suppose.
I think Stena will want to repplace Stena Danica on the Kattegat as she is the oldest ship on the route. However if she was to come to Fishguard she may need significant modifications. It all depends on what Stena want to do with configuring the berth at Fishguard for future needs. They possibly want to have a two tier linkspan and new foot passenger gangway.
Quote
Another idea has just popped into my head: would the Isle of Innisfree be a good vessel for the route? I'm sure there is a clause in the agreement which says Stena can't operate an ICG vessel against an ICG route.
I think it could be possible. Whatever ship is on the Rosslare / Fishguard run, it is going to carry passengers as the two ships have operated out of Rosslare for years. So why wouldn't ICG take advantage of that and charter the Innisfree to Stena then ICG have a guaranteed income for the ship.
I think they'll probaly keep Inishmore at Rosslare as she has good frieght capacity. IF would need to look at getting foot passenger gangways operational in both ports. Inisfree will probably go to the baltic.
The Baltica was never ideal for the Rosslare route however it was available and had been upgraded since its last stint on the route to double deck loading and increased bow thruster power, however the Baltica will not be returning the Irish Sea now.
The Stena Europe and Stena Danica are both of a similar age and the Danica is unlikely to move to the Irish Sea. There is possibly going to be a fleet realignment within the enlarged Stena Line Fleet as there are rumours that one of the Karlskrona ships could swap with one of the Kiel vessels, though there was no cover for the Stena Spirit dry dock this year, which for a route expanding and supposed to be very busy is quite strange.
So despite spending billions in recent years there is still a lot of work to do for Stena.
The obvious answer would be to order a sister vessel to the Stena Adventurer which at the time cost around 60 million, they must be kicking themselves they didn't order more of the "Stena Seapacer" class at the time.
Stena are rather short of new ships, and it would be at least 2015 before a sister to Finneagle could be built in Japan. I think a replacemtn for Stena Danica will be more of a priority for Stena right now.
QuoteI think they'll probaly keep Inishmore at Rosslare as she has good frieght capacity.
The Inishmore is too big for the run she is on, she sails around half empty most of the time, but I think they will keep her in Rosslare.
QuoteStena are rather short of new ships, and it would be at least 2015 before a sister to Finneagle could be built in Japan. I think a replacemtn for Stena Danica will be more of a priority for Stena right now.
Stena have never had a problem ordering new ships when they are needed, or finding imaginative solutions like the Superfasts. Remember when everybody was saying that there was nothing for Holyhead to match the Ulysees ten years ago and then they they built the Adventurer? I certainly agree that they should have built another two in that series, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Anything for Fishguard would have to be new and would need substantial shore work on both sides of the St George's channel.
The Danica is a year younger than the Europe and what an old tub the latter looks in the H&W drydock. A relic from another era. Moving the Danica's sistership to British waters as the Empereur was a disaster, so I can't see that happening.
To reboot Fishguard, they need a brand new ship, or one which is considerably younger than the Europe.
I'm amazed that it is the poor relation of the Irish Sea fleet, but then I discovered that it was the least profitable of the old Sealink Irish Sea routes, according to James Sherwood's very interesting, and highly readable, memoirs. Admittedly, he was writing from the perspective of when he sold Sealink to Stena at a premium in 1990, but I wonder whether that still pertains today? Does anybody know?
Matt
Well in my university dissertation about the British Ferry Industry, I discussed the competition within the Southern Corridor and using figures from the DFT and Ferry Publications, I found out the following:
In 2004, Swansea took 4% of the freight market, Fishguard 36% and Pembroke 60%. The situtation hadn't changed significantly by 2010, although Fishguard had took more passengers than Pembroke (419,000 vs 325,000).
However, as we all know it's freight that is now the real money maker for ferry companies, so Pembroke is in a stronger position.
QuoteTo reboot Fishguard, they need a brand new ship, or one which is considerably younger than the Europe.
I'm amazed that it is the poor relation of the Irish Sea fleet, but then I discovered that it was the least profitable of the old Sealink Irish Sea routes, according to James Sherwood's very interesting, and highly readable, memoirs.
Surely it's not that surprising seeing as the central and northern routes go directly into the 2 largest cities?
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Anything for Fishguard would have to be new and would need substantial shore work on both sides of the St George's channel.
To reboot Fishguard, they need a brand new ship, or one which is considerably younger than the Europe.
I'm amazed that it is the poor relation of the Irish Sea fleet, but then I discovered that it was the least profitable of the old Sealink Irish Sea routes, according to James Sherwood's very interesting, and highly readable, memoirs. Admittedly, he was writing from the perspective of when he sold Sealink to Stena at a premium in 1990, but I wonder whether that still pertains today? Does anybody know?
Matt
After Stena took over Sealink the Rosslare - Fishguard route in 1992 was the second most profitable route in the network, only the Fredrickshavn route performed better.
One of the Visentini vessels would be an ideal replacement for the Europe, with a revamped passenger area like the Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey (who are getting further interior upgrades at the moment), plenty of freight capacity, plenty of cabins, no extra work needed for Rosslare, new linkspan in Fishguard. Only negative no drive though capability, however longer turn around time can be negated by higher speed and better fuel economy.
The glory days of the Felicity are long gone, but a fresh modern vessel with plenty of room and deck space would be a great replacement. The Europe still has its positives, plenty of outside deck space, a great Stena+, great crew, plenty of passenger capacity but it is getting on in years.
Only drawback with the Viscentini vessels is that they are stern loaders. But correct me if I'm wrong on that one.
No they generally are. But the Contentin would a be a good ship, as she is a drive through Ro-Pax.
All Visentini are stern loading but for two round trips a day, more than possible to operate the route.
Contentin would have to be rebuilt for a passenger service, but it was designed with this in mind, and available for sale.
http://www.mondialbroker.com/detail.taf?B=346630&K=BPS
Who is likely to buy Contentin?
One of these four ?
DFDS / LD Lines
Stena RoRo
Irish Ferries
Eurotunnel
I'd say Eurotunnel are the likely buyers. MFL could then sell NPC to TEF.
Interesting Stena Group Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLQYkBfxxAU
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Also the repainting of the former Scandlines fleet continues with the adoption of the Stena Line branding being applied across the fleet:
The Trelleborg has been rebranded, the Sassnitz has adopted the funnel colours and the Skane has been totally rebranded, image from drydock in Poland (work in progress).
Interesting report from 2012 on the performance of the Stena Group in 2011.
http://www.stena.com/Documents/Stena%20AB_2011_ENG_del1_slutlig.pdf
More reports here:
http://www.stena.com/en/sphere/About-stena/Pages/Annual-Report.aspx
Also the Stena Baltica is expected to leave Lysekil, Sweden for Italy in the next few days where it will be renamed SNAV Adriatico and commence service for SNAV in late April.
http://www.napolitoday.it/economia/snav-adriatico-nuovo-cruise-ferry-tratta-ancona-spalato.html
That's good, I'm glad the Baltica has got a new future now.
Hey just a thought, I know Stena are planning to replace the old HSS berth with a new Liverpool berth at VT4, but are they also planning to build a new berth for the Heysham ships as well?
After Stena took over Sealink the Rosslare - Fishguard route in 1992 was the second most profitable route in the network, only the Fredrickshavn route performed better.
One of the Visentini vessels would be an ideal replacement for the Europe, with a revamped passenger area like the Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey (who are getting further interior upgrades at the moment), plenty of freight capacity, plenty of cabins, no extra work needed for Rosslare, new linkspan in Fishguard. Only negative no drive though capability, however longer turn around time can be negated by higher speed and better fuel economy.
The glory days of the Felicity are long gone, but a fresh modern vessel with plenty of room and deck space would be a great replacement. The Europe still has its positives, plenty of outside deck space, a great Stena+, great crew, plenty of passenger capacity but it is getting on in years.[/quote]
Thanks for that. Most interesting. I'm sure the Visentini ships could be easily converted to drive through. If they were designed like Stena Ro/Ro ships, it would be relatively easy to achieve.
It's a super route and the crews are amongst the friendly I have ever encountered.
Matt
Looks like the Stena Adventurer could be heading for a quick overhaul/refit after the Superfasts have been done, its still on the booking engine, but there are no premium tickets available for Holyhead - Dublin for early March (they are available Dublin - Holyhead) but doubt they have sold out of Premium Tickets for early March.
Would make sense to get the Adventurer done while they have the Finnarrow on the Irish sea to cover, maybe the Adventurer will get the blue wave applied this time around.
Image from shipspotting.com
One of the final images of the Stena Baltica laid up in Lysekil, Sweden.
It is expected to leave Lysekil at the end of the week.
http://www.lysekilsposten.se/
There are some very interesting photos of the chartered Finnarrow on the newly revamped Sealink- Holyhead site.
http://www.sealink-holyhead.net/#!finnarrow/cthu
Image below from Marine Traffic from the same photgrapher.
The Stena Nordica has had a hard time on the Rosslare - Fishguard route with several crossings cancelled due to bad weather on the Irish sea over the last few days.
The subject of Cold Ironing has been mentioned a few times in relation to car ferries, here in this video from Stena Line is what it actually is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA9xjX7HmuY
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Plugging into shore power is still a long way off, probably even longer for ferries. The relative short times that they are in port would just make things too much of a work up to make it viable. Also it would need to be a very good power supply as even most shipyards cannot supply ships with the power they need so they just supply them with the cooling water so that the ships generators are used when the ships are in drydock.
QuoteWho is likely to buy Contentin?
Looks like Contentin is off the market according to the BF forum,Planned to up her rotations to Spain and introducing a new Portsmouth-LeHarve service with Normandie Express.
QuotePlugging into shore power is still a long way off, probably even longer for ferries. The relative short times that they are in port would just make things too much of a work up to make it viable. Also it would need to be a very good power supply as even most shipyards cannot supply ships with the power they need so they just supply them with the cooling water so that the ships generators are used when the ships are in drydock.
That video is showing the shore power system installed for the Stena Britannica and Stena Hollandica for the Harwich - Hoek route, its already a reality for those vessels and ports.
http://www.worldcargonews.com/htm/w20120729.344233.htm
Stena Line has officially opened two Cavotec alternative maritime power (AMP) systems at its terminal in Hoek van Holland, near Rotterdam
The result of close cooperation between Cavotec and partners Stena Line, ABB, the Port of Rotterdam Authority and the Dutch Ministry of Infrastructure, these are the first shore power ("cold ironing") systems for sea-going vessels introduced at the Port of Rotterdam. They form an important element in the port's stated aim of becoming the most sustainable port in the world.
Dutch Minister of Infrastructure and the Environment, Melanie Schultz van Haegen, inaugurated the AMP systems at a ceremony attended by representatives from the primary partners in the project including Stena Line, ABB, and the Port of Rotterdam, along with other officials, dignitaries and business leaders.
"These projects demonstrate what ports can achieve when we pool engineering expertise to develop innovative, integrated solutions," said Sietse Nap, managing director of Cavotec Netherlands. "We work with a number of trusted partners to develop AMP systems and other technologies for the ports sector and elsewhere."
Cavotec's involvement in the project included the supply of two shore-to-ship interface cable management systems to ensure the safe and quick connection of shoreside electrical supply to four Stena Line ferries. Radio remote control units, also supplied by Cavotec, operate the AMP units, one of which is a cable dispenser system that connects electrical power to the STENA TRANSIT and STENA TRANSPORTER, the two freight ro-ros that sail between Hoek van Holland and Killinghome.
The other system is installed at Stena Line's ro-pax ferry berth, which serves the STENA BRITANNICA and STENA HOLLANDICA on the Hoek van Holland to Harwich route. The centrepiece of this application is a telescopic crane that extends some 20m.
Cavotec has worked on a large number of AMP installations across northern Europe. In Sweden for example, the ports of Stockholm, Gothenburg, Karlskrona and the Ystad all use Cavotec AMP systems. The very first AMP system became operational at the Port of Gothenburg in 1984.
Also installed in Gothenburg for the Stena Scandinavica and Stena Germanica.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S99iCNBJYgc
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http://www05.abb.com/global/scot/scot266.nsf/veritydisplay/98cc210ba73992f0c12577920036b780/$file/10abb029_cmd_sts_v09.pdf
Found this link on the shore-ship power system. It talks about power transfers of between 2MW and 15MW. 2MW in itself is a reasonable draw from distribution network...you would be looking at a substantial five figure investment to get that sort of supply. At the other end of the spectrum, 15MW is going to cost serious money...potentially well into the six figures. I have no idea what the pay-back would be on that!
Trust me. Shore power for the majority of ferries is a long way off. For those of you who are not technically minded, to switch from ship to shore power requires the ships to "black out" due to the interlocks on the switchboards. So once alongside, no doubt they would wait until all the passengers are off before they go through the change over procedure. Then when do you change back, before the passengers start to come on again, just before sailing? No one is going to black out a ship with passengers onboard so in reality with the short turn around times in port it is not going to happen to the majority of ferries any time soon.
The Stena Europe will be leaving H&W Belfast this evening and its AIS is showing for arrival in Fishguard for 31 Jan @ 14.00
QuoteTrust me. Shore power for the majority of ferries is a long way off. For those of you who are not technically minded, to switch from ship to shore power requires the ships to "black out" due to the interlocks on the switchboards. So once alongside, no doubt they would wait until all the passengers are off before they go through the change over procedure. Then when do you change back, before the passengers start to come on again, just before sailing? No one is going to black out a ship with passengers onboard so in reality with the short turn around times in port it is not going to happen to the majority of ferries any time soon.
Hi
As you say, Shore power for the Majority of ferries is a long way off. The biggest issue is the time spent in port. I live in Gothenburg, Sweden and work at one of the Gothenburg-Kiel ships as an Engine Officer. Here in Gothenburg all the Stena Ferries have "cold ironing" When They spent more than two hours in port. Every time we arrives here in Gothenburg we connect one high voltage cable to the ship. Onboard we have 60Hz 440V, the electricity grid ashore are 50Hz so we have to convert the frequency from 50 Hz to 60 Hz by converters ashore. Onboard the Ship we transform the current down to 440V The switchover from our Diesel Generators to shore power is not that big of a deal. The operation takes approximately 10 minutes upon arrival. The ship's power management system detects the shore power as an additional auxiliary engine when the shorepower is connected and then closes the breaker then start deloading the two Auxillary engines and open their breakers. So a Black-out never occurs. In Sweden the shore power consumed are tax free so there is a big saving compared to produce our own electricity consuming expensive Marine Gas Oil. The other big thing is the environmental issue. Here in Gothenburg there was no other option for the port and Stena because the ferries docks in the middle of the city. Another big thing is also the capacity in the port to provide "cold ironing" for the ships. In Gothenburg there are 3 "cold ironing" plants on each 3 MW. In Karlskrona there is an additional plant for the ships on the Polish route. At the moment port of Trelleborg is building one more "cold ironing" plant for the Skåne & Mecklenburg Vorpommern. Skåne received its high voltage converter at the Remontowa shipyard 2 weeks ago. So at the moment in the Stena Fleet Carisma, Danica, Jutlandica, Germanica, Scandinavica, Spirit, Vision, Britannica, Hollandica, Transit, Transporter and Skåne has the capabilty to connect to "cold ironing".
Hi, thanks for your explanation.
You say you transform the voltage onboard down to 440V, what is the supply voltage? I take it these transformer had to be fitted to ship to make the system work, do you know how much they cost?
Again I'm presuming your switchboards and power managements system must have been modified as I have never known a ship to have the main switchboard fed from the auxiliary engines and shore power at the same time, if fact there is usually an interlock to ensure it doesn't happen.
But all very interesting but I cannot see it becoming the norm during my lifetime.
The repainting of the former Scandlines fleet continues, here are some pictures of the Skane in its new Stena Line livery and the Sassnitz in the process of being painted.
The Stena Europe has returned to service on the Rosslare - Fishguard route with the 14.30 sailing ex Fishguard which has released the Stena Nordica to head to Belfast where the Stena Superfast VIII is next into drydock at H&W Belfast. The Stena Nordica is expected to begin service on Saturday morning.
QuoteFor those of you who are not technically minded, to switch from ship to shore power requires the ships to "black out" due to the interlocks on the switchboards.
Not sure that is correct...synchronisation of two systems is not that difficult to achieve, particularly where one is an ac-DC-ac system. The control of the DC-ac element is fully electronic, so the waveform can be varied very accurately to match the ship's own supply. Similarly, when going back onto ship's power, a modern diesel genset can be frequency controlled very accurately...the only challenge is getting it loaded up quickly, but load banks can sort that out. And interlocks are only there to prevent you doing the procedural things wrongly...they don't dictate what is technically possible.
However, I still don't think a shore-ship link makes any financial sense.
I'm liking the new Stena looks for the Scandlines vessels. Anyword on new Stena names?
QuoteQuoteFor those of you who are not technically minded, to switch from ship to shore power requires the ships to "black out" due to the interlocks on the switchboards.
Not sure that is correct...synchronisation of two systems is not that difficult to achieve, particularly where one is an ac-DC-ac system. The control of the DC-ac element is fully electronic, so the waveform can be varied very accurately to match the ship's own supply. Similarly, when going back onto ship's power, a modern diesel genset can be frequency controlled very accurately...the only challenge is getting it loaded up quickly, but load banks can sort that out. And interlocks are only there to prevent you doing the procedural things wrongly...they don't dictate what is technically possible.
However, I still don't think a shore-ship link makes any financial sense.
You obviously didn't read my second reply on this subject where I commented on switchboards and power management systems been modified to except the shore connection. Like everything on ships, anything is possible it just costs a lot of money and then if it is financially viable to do it and what is pay back time.
As for blacking out during the change over from ship to shore power I would think it's only the ships that are set up for "cold ironing" that don't have to black out. At the moment the majority of ships are not set up for this so would have to black out for the change over.
QuoteHi, thanks for your explanation.
You say you transform the voltage onboard down to 440V, what is the supply voltage? I take it these transformer had to be fitted to ship to make the system work, do you know how much they cost?
Again I'm presuming your switchboards and power managements system must have been modified as I have never known a ship to have the main switchboard fed from the auxiliary engines and shore power at the same time, if fact there is usually an interlock to ensure it doesn't happen.
But all very interesting but I cannot see it becoming the norm during my lifetime.
Hi
The High voltage ashore are 10,6 kV. When we were at remontowa and rebuild the ship for the new route we mounted a transformer onboard. Also the main switchboard had to be rebuild for the new breaker and the new added consumers. With todays electronics it´s possible to have the switchboard fed from both the aux and cold ironing at the same time. The cost is probably high. But as I said before there were not an option not to mount it because the former Germanica/Scandinavica have had a shore connection since the early nineties.
The Stena Nordica arrived in Belfast this morning, plenty of images of it undergoing berthing trials at Belfasts VT4 available here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/8434380463/in/photostream
Image below posted with permission from Scott Mackey.
The Stena Nordica, Stena Precision and Stena Mersey in Belfast
The stena fleet is a really nice looking fleet no doubt about it, i'd kill to know what would eventually replace the europe down here
Quote....really nice looking fleet...
Thats because none of them were build by Stena ;D ;D
Any dates when Adventurer is heading for dry dock?
QuoteAny dates when Adventurer is heading for dry dock?
Sometime in April, she is heading for Falmouth.
QuoteQuote....really nice looking fleet...
Thats because none of them were build by Stena ;D ;D
at least we're not dealing with any of these
(http://uglyships.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/03cnd-ferry2650.jpg)
Oh god the death traps... and sadly I am not kidding!
Its only when you see some of the butchered monstrosities that operate in some parts of the world that you begin to realise just how good design , construction and maintenance standards are in most of the EU.
I have encountered some right death traps in my time.
Well certainly that's the case in Northern Europe and most shipping lines in Southern Europe.
Stena Line really try their best to look after their vessels and bring them up to a standard, no matter what their age :).
Any updates on stena voyager?
QuoteAny updates on stena voyager?
This indeed! I would've expected her to have been towed to some scrapping plant but she's still in place.
QuoteWell certainly that's the case in Northern Europe and most shipping lines in Southern Europe.
Stena Line really try their best to look after their vessels and bring them up to a standard, no matter what their age :).
Indeed Stena do a very good job on the upkeep of their ships , even their older tonnage , and they have certainly never been afraid to spend money on their ships.
I was very surprised when Undercover Boss found Stena Mersey to be a building site while in service , that is definatly not Stena Line's form and you could see the expressions on Gunnar Blomdahl's face that he was really not happy with what he was seeing , he looked angry enough to break cover and pull the ship out of service there and then.
Personally I have never encountered a dirty or sub-standard Stena Line vessel.
QuoteAny updates on stena voyager?
The scrap/parts value of this vessel must be significant...the engines alone would be worth a pretty penny (unless Stena retain them as spares, but I can't see Explorer needing a full set). Makes you wonder why she hasn't moved...are they waiting because they expect a bidder?
maybe they just don't know what to do with it, if they were to scrap it, they'd have to tow it all the way. No use in going through the drydock procedures to get it recertified.
But then again You'd imagine they could' have scrapped her in any of the last 12 months but still haven't.
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The Stena Voyager, having been laid up in a dormant state for the last 12 months is not returning to service and will never see commercial service again, it has donated some parts for the Explorer including the Marine Evacuation System. As mentioned on another forum, the Voyager is likely to be scrapped by Stena and turned back into Aluminium.
Above post from last December.
While Stena have yet to confirm their intentions for the Stena Voyager it is more than likely it will not remain in Belfast for much longer, the clean solution is still to scrap the vessel and sell on the turbines etc and it will finish that chapter in Stena Lines historry.
Also the rumoured need to redevelop the VT4 HSS berth for the Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey service may speed things up for the decision makers.
Will Stena build 2 new RoRo berths at VT4, so they can move the Heysham vessels there as well?
So Stena Voyager is going to scrap then? :(
Stena Voyager will likely be recycled by Stena Metall in Gothenburg at end of 2014.
Why would they wait that long for voyager?
No idea when it will be scrapped but it is likely that the Voyager will depart Belfast in the next few months and be scrapped later this year.
On a more positive note plenty of new images of the Stena Nordica in operation on the North Channel have been published on Scott Mackeys excellent Flickr Site.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/8438980488/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157623457104848/
Image below of the vessel at Cairnryan from Marinetraffic, I think the first non Superfast to use the Cairnryan port.
Also some images of the Superfast VIII and Stena Voyager in Belfast
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/8445295332/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/8445297666/in/photostream
Also the Stena Baltica's AIS has changed, though no name on it yet.
The Stena Baltica has been renamed and is now the SNAV ADRIATICO, registered in Cyprus and it's AIS has been updated.
Well Stena Explorer will be scrapped after 2014 once a decision has been made about replacing Stena Nordica which will be redeployed. You could be right about Stena Voyager. All I will say is that she'll be scrapped by Stena Metall.
Is Stena Europe retired from Roselare - Fishguard next year? :(
Nothing confirmed yet.
There are no plans to replace Stena Europe at this time.
its always one of those things that are discussed in the pubs here when the stena line guys are in
Good Morning
I am a regular reader of the Forum and have very much so enjoyed reading.
Does anyone know what happened the Stena Adventurer as it appears she never made it into Holyhead and is still outside ??
this was at 7 am this morning sorry don't know how to place the screen shot
The Stena Adventurer couldn't dock last night due to the high winds in Holyhead, she was going to try again at 0630 and I believe she was successful around this time. From speaking with Captains of the Adventurer previously they have highlighted the fact that the Adventurer can struggle to berth in high winds as she does not have a stern thruster unit.
I heard last week that the Adventurer was down to three engines so if that's still the case she will have problems berthing in high winds.
Thanks very much for the info. Obviously Irish Ferries Ulysses has Stern Thrusters as she seems to be on time and was not affected by the High winds last night
QuoteThanks very much for the info. Obviously Irish Ferries Ulysses has Stern Thrusters as she seems to be on time and was not affected by the High winds last night
Ulysses has three bow thrusters, one stern thruster and becker rudders, she was built for maneuvering.
When's the refit of Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey will be?
Once the Stena Superfasts are finished refit at the end of February, next up the Stena Adventurer to refit at Harland and Wolff 3-19 March mostly routine work, no major upgrades planned.
On the Dublin - Holyhead route the Finnarrow is expected to maintain Nordica schedule while Nordica adopts Adventurer's timings. The HSS will not be activated to provide cover. The Stena Nordica is not scheduled to dry dock this year.
As for the Belfast - Birkenhead twins the Stena Lagan and Mersey won't be dry docked this year. Refurb work to complete the upgrade of their accommodation should be completed in the next 3 weeks. This includes the mid lounge where a new living room, barista coffee shop and play area are being provided. Cabins are all being upgraded and consist of standard and comfort class versions.
So Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey won't be dry docking this year? :-X
Stena Adventurer needs to go to dry dock ASAP she is from what I hear limping around with an engine down for the last few weeks. She was unable to dock in Holyhead last night until after 9am this morning, even the delayed 02.30 ex Dublin Finnarrow sailing was able to dock in Holyhead before the Stena Adventurer this morning. She has been standing down allowing Ulysses to dock before her in heavy weather in Dublin while she has been getting assistance from a tug to dock.
We will see if she will be heading to dry dock before March.
Quotenext up the Stena Adventurer to refit at Harland and Wolff 3-19 March mostly routine work, no major upgrades planned.
I heard the Stena Adventurer was going to Falmouth and that they were spending a lot of money on passenger areas.
QuoteStena Adventurer needs to go to dry dock ASAP she is from what I hear limping around with an engine down for the last few weeks.
We will see if she will be heading to dry dock before March.
Being an engine down doesn't necessarily mean a visit to drydock. They may well be in the process of carrying out repairs on the run.
Does anyone know what the problem is?
The Stena Adventurer will be drydocked in Harland and Wolff Belfast and will not go in until the Superfasts have been finished, but they could send it to Belfast next week if they wanted to delay the Supefast VII overhaul if the technical issue is serious.
The major interior upgrade that the ship is due to get will most likely be carried out while the vessel is in service as it is quite easy to section of the areas required due to the vast amount of passenger space available.
The Stena Adventurer has four main engines so unless there has been a catastrophic technical failure it should be able to survive running on three engines. (the Stena Europe did this for nearly a year). Unless the actual engine is damaged most repairs can be carried out while in service.
More information on the Adveturer and some nice images here:
http://www.sealink-holyhead.com/stena/ships/adventurer_ii/home.html
QuoteQuoteStena Adventurer needs to go to dry dock ASAP she is from what I hear limping around with an engine down for the last few weeks.
We will see if she will be heading to dry dock before March.
Being an engine down doesn't necessarily mean a visit to drydock. They may well be in the process of carrying out repairs on the run.
Does anyone know what the problem is?
I have no idea of the problem.
But if the dock was free & all the part are there to to do the full planned dry docking & the replacement vessel is free. It would much better for the company to pull the vessel early for dry docking. Instead of loosing freight/passengers due running late & missing round trips. As well as having to pay compensation to passenger under EU regulation due a technical problem with the vessel.
But if none of that works then they would have to carry out the repair on the run.
QuoteUlysses has three bow thrusters, one stern thruster and becker rudders, she was built for maneuvering.
I was on the Ulyses 3 years ago in late December and she similarly got stuck outside Holyhead on her morning sailing, and the Adventurer managed to dock. High winds kept pushing her away from the docking area and its thrusters didn't manage the job then. She finally docked 6 hours late at 5.30pm. Irish Ferries have since stated that the Ulyses has never missed a sailing, but several of her following sailings must have been well behind schedule for a while until they caught up.
Stena Adventurer has left on time tonight at 21.15 all timings back on schedule.
The Stena Adventurer is currently at 19.6 knts, there cannot be too much wrong with the technical side of things, not exactly limping across the Irish Sea.
The Clipper Pennant which was chartered by Stena RoRo at the end of 2012 has left the Mersey today heading for the Faroe Islands, Torshavn.
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Clipper-Pennant.aspx
It has been charted by Smyril Line to provide cover for the Norrona, which is a quite different vessel.
http://www.smyrilline.com/norrona-11409.aspx
http://www.smyrilline.com/sailing-schedule-15170.aspx
From the 4th of Feburary until the 21st of March a Charter vessel will be sailing the routes to Denmark and Iceland. The Charter Vessel has only room for 12 passengers. The departures and arrivals will be as scheduled.
Images from shipspotting.com
QuoteQuoteUlysses has three bow thrusters, one stern thruster and becker rudders, she was built for maneuvering.
I was on the Ulyses 3 years ago in late December and she similarly got stuck outside Holyhead on her morning sailing, and the Adventurer managed to dock. High winds kept pushing her away from the docking area and its thrusters didn't manage the job then. She finally docked 6 hours late at 5.30pm. Irish Ferries have since stated that the Ulyses has never missed a sailing, but several of her following sailings must have been well behind schedule for a while until they caught up.
The problem with today's ferries is that their high sides act like a giant sail. If you saw the Mighty Ships episode on the Quest channel about Stena Britannica, you will have seen a tug being used to push her stern whilst docking at the Hook in high winds. This is despite her having the largest bow thrusters on a ferry, twin screws and twin Becker rudders.
The problem is not new either. When Koningin Beatrix first visited Harwich in April 1986, it took an hour to dock her at Parkeston Quay. She was/is a very slab-sided ship and there are strong cross winds at Harwich (see below). The crews were not used to docking her, but mastered it quite quickly. I'm told the stevedores shouted "hurray" when they finally got her alongside berth two, having knocked the newly installed high-level gangway out and denting the forward part of her superstructure.
Speaking of high winds, just take a look at this fantastic video of the Britannica in 45 mph winds last November; Felixstowe had been closed, but she sailed on time. Notice how she's blown close to a docked container ship berthed at the Trimley (I think) terminal.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ANcDFhc5_os
Matt
QuoteOnce the Stena Superfasts are finished refit at the end of February, next up the Stena Adventurer to refit at Harland and Wolff 3-19 March mostly routine work, no major upgrades planned.
On the Dublin - Holyhead route the Finnarrow is expected to maintain Nordica schedule while Nordica adopts Adventurer's timings. The HSS will not be activated to provide cover.
According to Stena's website, the Finnarrow has a car capacity of 800 and a passenger capacity of 200:
http://www.stenaline.com/en/stena-line/corporate/about-stena-line/routes-and-vessels/ship-gallery/Finnarrow
(Surely they mean 800 passengers and 200 cars?)
If their figures are right, then I can't believe the Nordic and Finnarrow will be able to provide anywhere near sufficent capacity, especially over the Paddy's weekend. And are they going to stop foot passengers altogether during the duration of refit, since the Nordic never usually takes them?
Then a few days later and capacity skyrockets with the return of the Adventurer and the HSS.
Doesn't sound like good planning to me. We usually go Stena Line, but sounds like it'll be a crush with them this time, and our Paddy's weekend trip will now definitely be IF, so thanks for the heads up on this.
Mention of the Koningin Beatrix reminds me of this SMZ promotional video I found on You Tube which dates from 1986.
Sadly, the commentary is in Dutch, but there is some great footage of the naming ceremony and launch by former Koningin Beatrix at the, now defunct, Van der Giessen de Noord shipyard. In addition there are shots of the original Gabriel Finne designed interior; the same firm was responsible for the Kronprins Harald, delivered the same year and now the Oscar Wilde.
This is the ship that sparked my enduring interest in ferries and with the wonderful plastic crowns on its funnel. Stena's liveries never suited her, in my opinion, and they butchered her profile with the 2005 refit as Stena Baltica. They also progressively emasculated the interior from the 1993 refit.
I could bore for Britain about this great ship, but will spare you all! One further point is that Pim de Lange, current head of Stena Line BV at the Hook was part of the team which designed the 'KB' for SMZ.
Enjoy!
Matt
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mj-jFaACyFo
The SNAV Adriatico former Stena Baltica has left Lysekil Sweden, heading for Italy.
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According to Stena's website, the Finnarrow has a car capacity of 800 and a passenger capacity of 200:
http://www.stenaline.com/en/stena-line/corporate/about-stena-line/routes-and-vessels/ship-gallery/Finnarrow
(Surely they mean 800 passengers and 200 cars?)
The Finnarrow is aimed mainly at freight and has approx 2,000 lanemetres which gives a capacity of 800 cars, the passenger capacity is around 200 for use on Dublin - Holyhead, obviously most of the lanemetres would be used for freight.
http://www.finnlines.com/ferry-trips/ships_service_onboard/finnarrow
Some nice images of the Stena Superfast VIII in H&W Belfast here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/8446922663/in/photostream
QuoteThe Finnarrow is aimed mainly at freight and has approx 2,000 lanemetres which gives a capacity of 800 cars, the passenger capacity is around 200 for use on Dublin - Holyhead, obviously most of the lanemetres would be used for freight.
I assumed that was probably the case. Still don't think they've got enough capacity with the Nordic being a fraction of the size of the Adventurer, so I'm hoping they'll shortly announce they'll start the HSS seaon early too (at a discounted price for quick bookers like they did last year).
On the other hand perhaps they just won't if they want to remove her after the end of the 2014 season anyway (as was mentioned earier), so as to try and get the public used to slow ferries again. Might backfire in the short-term though if everyone flocks to IF though.
Just to fill in a few blanks from recent days. Talked to a Stena engineering employee this afternoon and he told me the following. Always remember in the corporate world that something which is absolutely set in stone today may be history tomorrow. Changes in senior management at Stena has also changed some plans which may well change again but here is the theoretical world as of today:
Adventurer will be drydocked from approx March 3rd to March 19th. Initial plan has been to have Nordica and Finnarow on cover duties with Nordica accepting foot passengers while covering Adventurer (Finnarow is covering Nordica). Serious problem with lack of capacity for St Patricks festival weekend and a worry about loss of trade to IF. Options are to try to get Adventurer back early (15th March) or bring HSS Explorer back on March 15th. One or the other will happen.
There are currently no plans to scrap HSS Explorer, unlike this time three years ago when she was absolutely destined for the scrapheap. Stena are very happy with the new situation on the central corridor, particularly with the seasonal boost that Explorer gives them. In high season, even a 1200 passenger replacement for Nordica wouldn't be sufficient so it is thought the current arrangement will continue for now. Remember, this arrangement is not just about profit, it is about market share.
Stena Europe is due to be around for a few years yet. She will need some heavy engineering work in the relatively near future and she may well be taken out of service for an extended period to facilitate that.
Thats the world as of 23.33 today!
Pete
Thanks for all the updates, DublinPeter.
My hunch is they'll bring back the HSS a week early. Stena love making a fuss of its relaunch (and why not?). I think Stena realised their mistake in Christmas 2011 when they lost out on the fast ferry market, and they made sure they didn't make the same mistake again at Christmas 2012.
I'll hold off making my IF booking for a week or so then, just in case.
QuoteQuoteQuoteStena Adventurer needs to go to dry dock ASAP she is from what I hear limping around with an engine down for the last few weeks.
We will see if she will be heading to dry dock before March.
Being an engine down doesn't necessarily mean a visit to drydock. They may well be in the process of carrying out repairs on the run.
Does anyone know what the problem is?
I have no idea of the problem.
But if the dock was free & all the part are there to to do the full planned dry docking & the replacement vessel is free. It would much better for the company to pull the vessel early for dry docking. Instead of loosing freight/passengers due running late & missing round trips. As well as having to pay compensation to passenger under EU regulation due a technical problem with the vessel.
But if none of that works then they would have to carry out the repair on the run.
The Adventurer is back up to four engines, spares parts availability was the problem so no need to drag the ship off to drydock afterall. ;)
Not sure about the MVP. I think she is german owned.
Lets hope we get the HSS back early instead of being sat in Holyhead doing nothing!
Any News on rebranding for the baltic sea yet? :-?
No news on the rebranding of the Mecklenburg Vorpommern yet, however the latest image taken in December shows all Scandlines branding removed so the Stena Line rebrand is not far away.
If you dowload this file you will see the Mecklenburg in its Stena Livery in a mock up image.(enlarged and posted below also)
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/~/media/Freight%20Facts/SLF_2013_10_jan.ashx
The SNAV Adriatico has reached the Med on its trip to Napoli and has maintained a good speed on its trip, showing the maintenance must have been good while it was laid up.
The Sassinitz has now been fully rebranded to Stena Line, Image below from Marine Traffic.
QuoteAny News on rebranding for the baltic sea yet? :-?
Hi
The former Scandlines ships are repainted as followed.
The Ask and Urd has got there funnels painted in red with the Stena mark on it.
The Trelleborg got a full repaint in the end of last year into the new colour scheme.
The Skåne got her hull and funnels painted in drydock at Remontowa shipyard earlier this year.
The Sassnitz has got her portside painted with the Stena Line text and they are painting the starbord side at the moment. The bow mark has been painted and also the funnel.
The Mecklenburg Vorpommern has got her port side funnel painted in stena red and fresh coat of white has been laid on the port side and the red line from the bow to the stern. On starboard they have started to paint the Stena Line text.
The Scottish Viking and Watling Street are still in there original colours.
Thanks for that, a really interesting update :).
I wonder will the former Scandilines ships be renamed in due course?
If so, I hope they're really good ones, i.e. not the Stena Trelleborg and Stena Sassnitz etc.
Indeed , "Stena Mecklenburg Vorpommern" will be quite a mouthful ;D
The former Stena Baltica has arrived in Naples.
QuoteThanks for all the updates, DublinPeter.
My hunch is they'll bring back the HSS a week early. Stena love making a fuss of its relaunch (and why not?).
I'll hold off making my IF booking for a week or so then, just in case.
No sign of an early HSS return over the last week, and can't imagine they'll do it now with less than 4 weeks notice.
Booking engine not even filling up on existing limited capacity of Nordica and Finnarrow for Paddy's weekend, so perhaps they'll just stick with current vessels.
All change on the North Channel this weekend as the Stena Superfast VIII comes out of drydock on Saturday and the Superfast VII goes into drydock on Sunday morning, the Stena Nordica will continue to provide cover while the overhauls continue.
"It is now nearly two weeks since Stena Superfast VIII was on the drydock for a refit and for tomorrow Stena Superfast VII will be also in the drydock for a refit for a probably two weeks while Stena Nordica covers for it."
Well that'll take us into the start of March, which should work well for the Adventurer going into refit afterwards.
Looks like the Finn Arrow won't be going anywhere for a while:-
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/FerriesOfNorthernEurope/message/63217
Anyone know that refit work is taking place on the Superfasts. Any upgrades, as Stena plus area is really small.
The Superfast refits are for regular/routine maintenance and don't involve any major changes to the interiors of the ships. All major mechanical works, MES checks and paintwork will be done and also certification renewals and any other business required. Stena Plus area will remain as is with capacity for approx 100 passengers.
I see from Live Ships Map -AIS that Superfast VIII is still in dry dock. Any reason for delay back to service?
"I don't know what cause the delay for Stena Superfast VIII?" :-?
The Superfasts were very troublesome during their time with Tallink , Stena has spent a lot of money improving their reliability.
The HSS Stena Explorer returned to service today on the Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead route due to the incident with the Finnarrow which is posted elsewhere on the forum.
The Stena Scotia is expected to arrive in Holyhead on Friday to commence service on the Dublin - Holyhead service, offering a dedicated freight service.
The Stena Superfast VIII is now expected to leave the drydock at H&W Belfast later tonight after some technical issues delayed the refit, the Superfast VII which is expected into drydock tomorrow could also have the same issues with its refit thus delaying the Stena Adventurer refit by about a week.
The tug Hellas is heading for Holyhead from Falmouth, presumably to tow the Finnarrow to Birkenhead for repairs.
Two further images of the Baltic Sea vessels are also posted as the Sassinitz and Skane in the new Stena colours. I wonder will the lightning flash on the bow also be painted on the Irish Sea vessels in the next repaint.
The tug Hellas is heading for Holyhead from Falmouth, presumably to tow the Finnarrow to Birkenhead for repairs.
Nope, heading to Greenock, it would appear.
The Stena Superfast VIII is now expected to leave the drydock at H&W Belfast later tonight after some technical issues delayed the refit.
VIII did inded leave H&W this morning.
Now [04.35 GMT] undergoing sea trials in the North Channel.
The Finnarrow finally left the berth at Holyhead at 03:10, no main engine power, with the assistance of two tugs, up front the 50 mtr Hellas currently tied up on the Finnarrows starboard side and the St David astern, she had to be hauled off the berth about 10 mtr first as the port fin was still out.
It is being towed to the Clyde for repairs to take 10-12 weeks, not Birkenhead/Liverpool as originally mentioned.
The Superfast VIII is now out of dry dock, she undocked at 0230 and has swapped with the Superfast VII at Belfast allowing the VII to enter the drydock at H&W.
The HSS Stena Explorers schedule is being adjusted from Monday with the afternoon departure from Dun Laoghaire moving back to 16.00 hrs rather than this weeks 15.05 departure.
Meanwhile the undertow Finnarrow is due to arrive on the Clyde at 07.00 tomorrow Feb 22nd.
More information here on Stena Explorers return to service here:
http://afloat.ie/port-news/ferry-news/item/20977-chartered-finnish-ferry-heads-for-scotland-following-incident
Also plenty of very recent images of the Irish Sea Ferries - Stena Europe, Stena Adventurer, Stena Nordica, Stena Superfast VII, Isle of Inishmore, Oscar Wilde and the HSS Stena Explorer have been added to smac.ni's Flickr site visit from the link below and click newer to see the images.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/8495884526/in/photostream
Stena Scotia was seen leaving her berth in Belfast at 21.25 tonight, Thursday 21st.
Yeah she's on her way to Holyhead. Good to see her sailing again. Tbh I was a little surprised that Stena didn't use her and the Hibernia on the Harwich-Europoort route.
Stena Scotia arrived into Dublin at 14.30hrs today & did a berthing trial on berth 51, she is now on berth 46.
You'll have to update me on the berth names at Holyhead. I'm aware of the HSS berth, the Jonathan Swift berth, the Ulysees berth and the berth used by the Stena ferries. Is the old Stena berth (pre 2003) still there or has that been demolished?
Oh I see it's Dublin lol! Sorry but you could tell me the berth locations there as well lol!
In Dublin Port the following berths are used by the ferry business:
Berth 49 - Ulysses
Berth 51 - Stena Adventurer
Berth 51A - Jonathan Swift
Berth 21 - Norbay / European Endevour / Norbank
Berth 52 - Seatruck Progress
Stena Line have also released further information on the interior upgrades being carried out on the Stena Lagan and Mersey at the moment.
http://www.stenaline.co.uk/ferry/refit-2013
In 2012 Stena Line invested in an extensive refurbishment programme for the Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey, this included introducing; NEW iMac Pod Lounge, New Stena Plus Lounge, NEW Met Bar & Grill, NEW Metropolitan Restaurant, NEW Stena Shopping and Free Wi-fi.
From Monday 7th January until mid March 2013 we will be working onboard our vessels to improve our Cabins, Childrens Play Area and Living Room/Barista Area. During this time the Childrens Play Area and Living Room/Barista area will not be open however we will have cabins available. The Metropolitan Restaurant, Met Bar & Grill, Stena Plus*, Teen Town and Cinema will be open as normal.
We would like to apologise for any inconvenience this may cause our passengers and would like to re-assure you that we aim to ensure your journey will be comfortable and enjoyable.
Also some images released on their Facebook site, below.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.593597470670189.161898.148421815187759&type=1
Any truth to the rumour that the damage to VT4 was caused by the Superfast docking with the stabiliser down and ripping a sizable chunk out of the dock and its hull?
QuoteAny truth to the rumour that the damage to VT4 was caused by the Superfast docking with the stabiliser down and ripping a sizable chunk out of the dock and its hull?
No would be the answer to that question, The Superfasts operate on Belfast - Carinryan, what you are referring to has been covered on another thread.
http://www.irish-ferries-enthusiasts.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1361028701
Apologies! Newbie mistake!
QuoteOh I see it's Dublin lol! Sorry but you could tell me the berth locations there as well lol!
In Dublin Port the following berths are used by the ferry business:
Terminal 1 (Irish Ferries)
Berth 49 Ro/Ro Ramp no. 5 (Ulysses/ Jonathan Swift)
Berth 51A Ro/Ro Ramp no. 9 (Jonathan Swift)
Berth 49A (Jonathan Swift lay by berth if 51A is in use no Ro/Ro ramp)
Terminal 2 (Stena Line)
Berth 51 Ro/Ro Ramp no. 1 (Stena Adventurer/ Stena Nordica)
Terminal 3 (P&O)
(EUROPEAN ENDEAVOUR/ NORBANK/ NORBAY)
Berth 21 Ro/Ro Ramp no. 6
Berth 25 Ro/Ro Ramp no. 4
Terminal 4 (old SeaTruck Terminal)
Now storage area
Terminal 5 (SeaTruck)
(ARROW/ SEATRUCK PROGRESS/ SEATRUCK POWER)
Berth 52 Ro/Ro Ramp no. 7
Berth 53 Ro/Ro Ramp no. 8
Ocean Pier (CLdN ro-ro SA)
Berth 37 Ro/Ro Ramp no. 2 (AMANDINE/ PEREGRINE)
I have a map of Dublin ports berths I will try and find it & post later. http://goo.gl/DuZTy
Thank you! I must say the Stenas Mersey & Lagan look amazing inside.
First image of the SNAV Adriatico former Stena Baltica in Naples available on this site:
http://www.pazzoperilmare.com/2013/02/da-aprile-snav-adriatico-sulla-tratta.html
The Stena Lagan will be making an interesting trip on Monday Feb 25th as it takes a trip to Larne to enable an underwater hull survey to be carried out.
It will be the longest ship to dock in Larne.
Anyone know what's the story with the Stena Europe this evening.
Marine AIS shows her still in Europort when I checked just now and not at her usual berth. Weather and wind seems ok.
Ferrycheck on their website says "Possible delay for Stena Europe 2100hrs departure ex Rosslare this evening, vessel currently unable todock @ Rosslare Hbr."
She had to use berth no: 2 this evening at Rosslare. Berth 3 seems to be out of action tonight. My guess is there's a mechanical prob with the linkspan.
i was watching this all evening and rather baffled by it, she stayed just outside the harbour for the entire evening she just left there about half an hour ago or so, i didnt spot any work going on on the linkspan today or none at the moment either, very odd
http://marinetraffic.com/ais/showallphotos.aspx?imo=9131797
It looks like the Mecklenburg Vorpommern has been fully repainted into Stena colours, hopefully we'll get a better picture soon.
What ships are left now? I know the Ask has a Stena funnel.
As reported on FONE, Stena Line are expanding their network into Asia with the creation of the Stena Daea Line to service customers in South Korea and Russia.
One assumes Daea are a company related to the firm Dae-A-Gosok that bought the Stena Lynx III last year. Image of the vessel to be used below images taken last year.
Stena International Freight, a company within the Stena Group, will start up its first ferry route in Asia on the 19th March. The route will operate between the South Korean city of Sokcho and the Russian ports in Zarubino and Vladivostok and will initially be serviced by one ship.
"Our ambition is to expand into Asia and the new route is a very important step in this plan. There is strong demand for a high quality route with freight and passenger transports between Korea and Russia," says Hans Nilsson, CEO, Stena International Freight.
The route will be operated by the RoPax ferry M/V New Blue Ocean, which can carry 1,400 metre of trucks, trailers and containers as well as 750 passengers. The ferry will make two scheduled trips a week between Sokcho and Zarubino as well as one trip between Sokcho and Vladivostok.
"The region around Zarubino andVladivostok is developing into a transport hub for traffic to both Russia and China. In addition, there will be direct access to the Trans-Siberian Railway making journeys all the way from Korea, via Russia, to Europe easier. At the same time, the route also provides direct access to the Korean market," Hans Nilsson added.
The business model that will be applied in Asia resembles the one Stena Line uses in Europe and the Baltics, with a combination of both freight and passenger traffic.
"Even on the passenger side there is demand for travel between Korea and China with the strategically important port of Zarubino. We estimate we will have about 100,000 passengers a year," Hans Nilsson said.
The new service will be operated under the name Stena Daea Line which is 90% owned by Stena Line and 10% by Daea. Approximately 30 people will be employed in the joint company, which will be based in Sokcho and Seoul, South Korea.
Stena International Freight
Gothenburg
5 March, 2013
For further information contact Hans Nilsson, CEO, Stena International Freight tel. +46 (0) 31 85 51 18 or Man Chul Hur, CEO, Stena Daea Line, Korea, tel. +82 2 546 3891.
Also reported here:
http://www.sjofartstidningen.se/stena-kor-pa-sydkorea/
As we are talking about South Korea, here is an image of the former Stena Lynx III (Incat Hull 040) in its new colour scheme and renamed Orange from:
http://www.incat.com.au/domino/incat/incatweb.nsf/0/4D01E2E188DE9B6CCA257AF500162375?OpenDocument
And image of the Mecklenburg Vorpommern in its new Stena Line Look.
Also the Stena Superfast VII has left drydock this evening in Belfast and will re-enter service early in the morning with the Stena Nordica then heading back to the Dublin - Holyhead route to replace the Stena Adventurer which will then go to Belfast for drydocking in H&W Belfast.
Well that first picture is Vladivostok in Russia , I can even see the hotel I stayed in in that shot.
Stena Lines Irish Sea flagship vessel the Stena Adventurer arrived in Belfast this morning ready for its much needed refit and overhaul. Some Images of its arrival in Belfast are available on the link below:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/8535795335/in/photostream
The arrival of the Stena Adventurer in Harland & Wolff Belfast means the entire Stena Line Irish Sea fleet has been in Belfast in the past twelve months, with all but one refitted in H&W. The Stena Nordica has not refitted this year but has operated on the Belfast - Cairnryan route.
Stena Mersey - Feb/March 2012
Stena Lagan - March 2012
Stena Precision & Stena Performer - Sept 2012
Stena Explorer HSS - Dec 2012
Stena Europe - Jan 2013
Stena Superfast VIII - Feb 2013
Stena Superfast VII - Feb/March 2013
Stena Adventurer March 2013
The Stena Adventurer is currently scheduled to return to service on the Dublin - Holyhead route on March 20th (however this may change depending on refit)
Stena Adventurer is actually due back in service on March 12th
According to the booking engine on the Stena Line website the Adventurer will return to service on March 20th with the 02.30 Holyhead - Dublin sailing. Services are covered by the Nordica and Explorer until then with the Scotia providing a back up freight service.
Interestingly there is no premium for some Explorer services in this time with some sailings on the Explorer cheaper than the Nordica, obviously to help manage supply and demand in the Adventurers absence.
Stena Scotia left her berth this morning at around 5 am and is currently tied up on Dublin's south quays, I think she should be on her way to Holyhead
The Stena Scotia moves to a lay by berth at Dublin during the day after 0400ish and stays there until she moves back to load for the 1510 sailing.
Thanks Giftgrub,
I was under the impression whilst covering the Nordica's run she would do the same twice daily round trip
Because Stena Scotia can not accommodate freight drivers its departures are timed around Stena Explorer's timetable as the drivers of trucks aboard Stena Scotia travel aboard Stena Explorer and collect their trucks at the other side.
QuoteBecause Stena Scotia can not accommodate freight drivers its departures are timed around Stena Explorer's timetable as the drivers of trucks aboard Stena Scotia travel aboard Stena Explorer and collect their trucks at the other side.
Sounds highly duplicative to me. Is there really anything that can't make it's way round to Dun Laoghaire by road?
It's not that long ago since there were 3 round trips to Dun Laoghaire and a lot more freight went that way.
There is a truck ban in place at the port of Dun Laoghaire , has been there for some time now , it seems the residents of the million Euro plus period homes along the seafront road dont like "big filthy smelly trucks" passing their homes and petitioned the local authority to ban them , subsequently no freight can be carried from Dun Laoghaire.
The Explorer is carrying a lot of passenger traffic, to maximise revenue, carrying the freight on the Scotia makes sense, allowing the Explorer to carry as much passenger and car traffic. The Explorer could take 50 trucks and then they would have a lot less space for car traffic.
Dun Laoghaire will except freight in special circumstances when the trucks are carrying popstar possessions !!!
They did allow the Explorer to run a freight crossing last September to get Lady GAGA's equipment across the Irish Sea.
http://afloat.ie/port-news/ferry-news/item/19895-stena-lines-hss-service-sounds-good-for-lady-gaga
2 Weeks ago, when I was on the HSS, there was a small number of trucks on board.
I would imagine they used the damage to the Finnarrow as leverage to get some freight through there.
There is no ban as such on Trucks through Dun Laoghaire port - the planning permission and Harbour act from back in the mid 1990s actively discourages freight though and some of the more wealthy residents were very voiciferous in their opposition to extra truck traffic which was both unfortunate and shortsighted.
If my memory serves me rightly, much of the freight traffic was shifted to Dublin Port when the HSS began - would it have been the Stena Traveller that was introduced round about then?
HSS has always been pushed on route as being the ideal method of transport for Cars and passenger transport and in fairness, given the roads in the locality that makes a fair bit of sense. Just needs to be more cars and passengers to keep HSS going!
Interesting to see plenty of trucks on the HSS the last few weeks though and good to see the port looking so busy with both passenger and commercial traffic. Even Stena have cashed in on the peculiar circumstances caused by the Finarrow incident by offering discounted day trips from Holyhead to Dun Laoghaire on HSS for a tenner until March 21st!
Pete
Its lower fuel prices that needs to keep the HSS going. As she operates on 4 gas turbine engines. Her future is looking bleak beyond 2014. It is likely tha she and her sister Stena Voyager will be recycled by Stena Metall in the next 3 to 4 years.
Fair point Niall, well made!
I was talking about the shorter term (2013/14) rather than her longer term prognosis which isn't great, although she has been on more farewell voyages than Status Quo at this stage and yet there she still is. I wouldn't be writing her off for 2014-2016 just yet.
Always remember that despite the fuel guzzling (although the speed reductions have knocked that down significantly) she provides not just capacity on the Irish Sea but market share for the Stena brand which is just as important. As long as Irish Ferries have a fastcraft, so will Stena - whether thats the HSS in a few years time is distinctly debatable but time (and the global economy!) will be the final arbiter of that one.
Pete
A contact in Stena told me that the company won't invest in any future high speed fastcraft.
Seemed like there was a lot of traffic leaving Dun Laoghaire port today, but then it is effectively covering 2 Nordica sailings. What'd be interesting to know is how much extra business was generated because of the early relanch.
I presume the HSS is currently being primarily crewed by staff that would normally be on the morning / afternoon sailing of the Nordica, which is why it doesn't really matter that it stays in DL for a 3 hours in the afternoon. This might account also for the fact that it was put back in service within 4 days of the Finnarrow incident, ie because the staff were available. I also presume the crew will then switch to seasonal staff post 22 March, when the HSS was due to start.
Bit of a shortage on the Dublin/DL to Holyhead corridor today.
The Swift was already cancelled for today and tomorrow due to the weather and of course Stena Scotia only does Monday to Friday which left Nordica (covering for Adventurer) and the HSS to take up the slack.
Pretty full load waiting at Dun Laoghaire this afternoon for the 1600 HSS departure but you could see from the waves breaking on the East Pier that there was no way she could go anywhere and was cancelled at about 3.30 leaving some very cranky truckers and a large number of cars/foot passengers to either make their way to Dublin Port for the Nordica at 2115 or Rosslare for the Europe at 2100 (presuming that Europe can dock of course!).
Winds in the last hour from the East gusting at about 44 knots which is pretty hairy in Dublin bay. I'd say the Nordica and Ulysses will be pretty busy tonight. I'm guessing that the HSS will wait for a break in the winds and head back to Holyhead later this evening/tonight. Very unusual for her to get stuck in Dun Laoghaire - I think the winds picked up more than expected, earlier than expected.
Pete
Night on the town in Dun Laoghaire for the Explorer crew tonight! They're going to stick where they are for tonight and skip the 1030 from Holyhead in the morning. Weather permitting, normal service resumes tomorrow at 1600 from Dun Laoghaire.
Pete
Well, that has not happened in a long time! But I would not be happy if I was booked on the HSS to come back to the UK today!
the costs of having the crew stay there for the night and cancelling that morning sailing is probably cheaper than sailing the HSS back empty right?
Sometimes I do not understand why a big catamaran like the HSS is so sensitive to bad weather, isn't she supposed to have improved comfort and handling in rough seas due to her design?
Stena Line, not having a good time!
QuoteWell, that has not happened in a long time! But I would not be happy if I was booked on the HSS to come back to the UK today!
Didn't airline type compensation come in at the end of last year, ie they'd have to put you up in hotels if delayed?
If you were a family intending to travel at 4pm on a Sunday back to the UK, and the next one is not til 9pm - you'd be pretty annoyed. Depending how far from Holyhead you had to travel, I think I'd want to wait til the next day than end up driving in the middle of the night.
If the same crew were working tomorrow, there probably wasn't a huge window to go back in this evening. Another option might have been setting off at 6am tomorrow if the winds were forcast to die down.
I presume the Nordica just wouldn't have had the capacity to cope with all the HSS passengers that would have wanted to travel this evening / tomorrow morning, and Stena may have had to transfer some to the Ulyses too?
A few fantastic pics on flickr of the Europe rounding the Fishguard breakwater
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wdig/8464413119/
QuotePretty full load waiting at Dun Laoghaire this afternoon for the 1600 HSS departure but you could see from the waves breaking on the East Pier that there was no way she could go anywhere and was cancelled at about 3.30 leaving some very cranky truckers and a large number of cars/foot passengers to either make their way to Dublin Port for the Nordica at 2115 or Rosslare for the Europe at 2100 (presuming that Europe can dock of course!).
Looks like the Europe made it away from Rosslare, both it and the Inishmore are showing on Marinetraffic mid channel at the moment.
You'd nearly feel sorry for Stena alright , talk about worst possible time for a bad weather cancellation of the HSS , the HSS is a very sturdy vessel as Cats go , but the weather on the Irish Sea is quite bad tonight.
A photo review of the Stena Explorer 2013 has been posted by Chris Brindle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&list=UUQnIHdEuoRFkz7J4UJSPTdA&v=KFL6xEB7BGI
His previous review from 2011:
http://stenaexplorer.blogspot.ie/
Also some very interesting photos of the Stena Europe in heavy seas off Fishguard harbour, which would have been interesting for those onboard:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wdig/8465547746/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wdig/8464446715/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wdig/8465544216/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wdig/8464413119/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wdig/8465510902/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wdig/8469583965/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wdig/8470676134/in/photostream/
Also the Stena Hollandica goes to dry dock this weekend, leaving the Stena Britannica to work the Harwich - Hoek route on its own.
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/~/media/Files/Ferry%20Update%20Dry-docking%20Hollandica%20March%202013.ashx
The stunningly beautiful Stena Nautica is being used for some unique day cruises to the Anholt wind farm ( a major connection with Ireland is the Wind Perfection former Julia is based at this wind farm)
http://www.windpoweroffshore.com/2013/03/07/offshore_wind_tourism_has_huge_potential_says_stena_line/#.UT-kCNbeWAk
http://www.dongenergy.com/anholt/EN/News/anholt_nyheder/News/Pages/AnholtOffshoreWindFarm-Newsletter-February2013.aspx
Shame that the Stena Hibernia is going to be used again at Harwich. She's currently laid up in Lubeck at the moment.
Stena Hibernia like the Stena Scotia is no longer owned by Stena Line, they are owned by Stena RoRo and while that may seem like semantics they are different companies and operate with different management.
Does not mean they could not charter the Hibernia though.
While mentioning Stena RoRo, there are two vessels coming off charter soon, the Norman Asturias is supposed to finish its charter in the next 4/5 months and the Norman Voyager will finish its charter in January 2014, both are currently with DFDS/LD Lines and are similar to the Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey. Where will they go next ?
QuoteQuoteWell, that has not happened in a long time! But I would not be happy if I was booked on the HSS to come back to the UK today!
Didn't airline type compensation come in at the end of last year, ie they'd have to put you up in hotels if delayed
Regulation EU No. 1177/2010, which gives rights to passengers when they are travelling by sea or inland waters. This is to come into force in December 2012.
Passenger Rights Legislation – Summary of Compensation Requirements.
Cancelled Sailing Weather: Exempt from Compensation Claims but welfare costs apply as shown belowDelayed Sailing: Technical/ weather/extraordinary
or
Cancelled Sailing: Technical/ Weather/Extraordinary
Waiting Time:
Snacks, Meals or Refreshments
90 minutes or more and every 90 minutes thereafter. e.g a light refreshment such as a bottle of water or a cup of tea. No alcohol.
4 hours or more e.g the equivalent of a snack or light meal such as a sandwich or a bowl of soup.
8 hours or more e.g the equivalent of a hot evening meal.
Every 4 hours thereafter As above; a snack or meal should be provided.
Refreshments.
The Regulations say that refreshments should be offered free of charge, in reasonable relation to the waiting time, provided that they are available or can reasonably be supplied.
If you don't have any adequate facilities in the port, therefore you can making arrangements to provide this on board, shortly after boarding.
If they purchase any additional refreshments ashore, they should get receipts and submit this as part of any claim for payment of extra costs, to the company.
So no compensation due but welfare of snacks/meal drinks due to passengers.
Thanks for he clarification, Ferryman. I have to say, I think that's very tame. I recall back in December how the newspapers were saying that ferry passengers were to be given the same rghts as airline passengers. It doesn't look like it to me. I think if you're being forced to travel anti-social hours the least you could be offered is a cabin on the boat, and if you have children, the option of the next days sailing and a hotel bed. Irish crossing fares are not cheap.
I hope everyone aboard the Oscar Wilde for an additional 24 hours yesterday was given a cabin to sleep in and food.
Noticed that the Finnarrow seems to be back for a few days after 16 March. Now there are 3.10pm and 4pm sailings out of Dublin / Dun Laoghaire.
The Finnarrow, while still in drydock in Greenock is expected back on the Dublin - Holyhead service later this week, all patched up under the waterline, but not a paintbrush appears to have touched the rest of the ship....
In other news the HSS Stena Voyager is expected to depart Belfast within the next week heading to recycling facility where it will be scrapped. As Stena own Stena Metall it is not a big leap to guess that it will be scrapped at a Stena Metall owned facility.
It is not expected to depart Belfast under its own power and will be towed to its final destination. Obviously relevant spare parts will be removed for use with the Stena Explorer and its departure will free up space in the Belfast VT4 area for some linkspan redevelopment, allowing the HSS berth to be converted for use by the Stena Lagan/Mersey.
some of an image of the Finnarrow in drydock in Greenock
Image taken by Jordan Harle
from
https://www.facebook.com/SunderlandTugs
There is a tug heading to Belfast at the moment, wonder is it going to be towing the Stena Voyager to its final destination ?
QuoteI think if you're being forced to travel anti-social hours the least you could be offered is a cabin on the boat, and if you have children, the option of the next days sailing and a hotel bed. Irish crossing fares are not cheap.
I hope everyone aboard the Oscar Wilde for an additional 24 hours yesterday was given a cabin to sleep in and food
Fast Ferry Man this is what the EU have set for the min. rights. I work for an Irish sea ferry company who had some disruption this week. We do offer cabins were there are free ones to family's but on heavy freight nights it can't always be done. We don't charge people if they move to the next daytime sailing. I have been on a delayed Ireland/France sailing as a passenger, we were allowed to keep on using our cabin & was offered free lunch on the sailing. I read in the media that all passenger on board Oscar Wilde were offer free cabins & meals during the delay this week.
QuoteIn other news the HSS Stena Voyager is expected to depart Belfast within the next week heading to recycling facility where it will be scrapped.
Have gotten used to seeing the Voyager across Belfast Lough on the way in to work each morning. Will be strange to not have it there.
I was never much of a fan of the HSS, but still appreciate their 'Concorde of the seas' status. The first scrapping of one does count as the beginning of the end, I suppose...
Hmmm yes and I think the Discovery will go the same way soon, although perhaps not to Stena Metal.
Is one single tug able to tow such a big ship in rough seas?? It's a sad faith but unavoidable. Would be a cool place for a museum though!
I don't think the HSS discovery is going anywhere any time soon. As far as I know she is still involved in the criminal investigation at Curacao (she smuggled diesels in her tanks). but she is defnitely ready for scrap; nothing has happened to her since she left belfast really.
Well if that is true about the Voyager it is a very very sad day
I havent sailed with stena since the HSS was withdrawn as always go PO now on there 21st century fast ferry rather than the last century stena ''superfasts'
The HSS was the most awesome way to travel accross the irish sea and probably there will never be anything that comes close to it again
How anyone was not a fan of it amazes me
At least some can say we travelled on her!!!!
The Stena Explorer is still alive & well and doing a great job............for now anyway??
Was at a conference recently where it was generally agreed within the industry that the days of fast craft catamarans operating in Europe are numbered , there is now a record number of them in lay up (the figure I heard was 14 not counting the HSS's) , while in terms of speed they were a success , but the propulsion technology has been deemed a failure on reliability and economic grounds.
There was however talk of future monohull LPG powered ferries being able to reach speeds of 40 knots in the not too distant future , apparently there are several on the drawing board at present , the only thing holding them back is lack of investment by ferry companies due mostly to the global downturn.
That was another conclusion I put in my dissertation lol!
What about hydrogen powered ferries?
I recall seeing plans for some small concept vessels powered by hydrogen fuel cells a few years back , I would imagine some have been built and tested by now , the hydrogen powered designs look promising however last I heard they were trying to overcome design limitations around fuel containment and reaction containment on a large scale , I would be inclined to say that large vessels powered by hydrogen fuel cells are not that far away either.
Some great photos of the Stena Adventurer in the Belfast dry dock at Harland and Wolff on Scott Mackey's brilliant Flickr Site.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey
Also the Stena Hollandica goes to dry dock this weekend, leaving the Stena Britannica to work the Harwich - Hoek route on its own.
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/~/media/Files/Ferry%20Update%20Dry-docking%20Hollandica%20March%202013.ashx[/quote]
Thanks. Any idea what they will be doing to Stena Hollandica whilst she's in drydock, aside from the usual survey and maintenance?
Will they be sorting out the problems with the restaurants and galley, exposed on Undercover Boss last year?
Matt
HI Matt, as the Hollandica is only out of service for a week, it will be mostly for routine maintenance and certification.
With regards to the galley, any changes in that area can be made while the vessel is in service and would not have to wait until it is in drydock.
The HSS 900 Stena Carisma is in drydock in Gothenburg at the moment. Images here:
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=27755.msg247455#msg247455
For me the design of the hss 900 has always looked a bit awkward when compared to the hss 1500. As to voyager, there was a tugboat en route last week if I recall but apparently wasn't for her yet. Not a big maritime expert, but do you guys expect no issues with the voyager being towed by just a small tug ? ( rough seas for example). Can't they make some sort of exception in terms of classification and have one jet operational? I'm sure one of the 4 still works?:p
Stenas South Korean operation started today:
http://www.sjofartstidningen.se/stena-igang-i-sydkorea/
Any thoughts on the final destination for Stena Voyager to be scrap yet???? :-?
Your guess is as good as mine
I totally understand the economic side of things, but if Voyager is to be scrapped, what a sad end to such a great ship, but the truth is, nobody wants them now.
The final destination for the Stena Voyager will possibly be as a soft drinks can in your fridge !!! as for where it will be dismantled and scrapped it will be in a Stena Metall owned facility more than likely in Sweden.
The Stena Adventurer is back in Holyhead this afternoon.
I know about Stena Adventurer was back on Dublin - Holyhead route but what about Stena Scotia? :-?
Stena Scotia has gone to the Med on a 3 month charter, currently heading to Marseille expected to arrive on the 25th March according to Marinetraffic.
Reports from Sweden today that Stena Metall have purchased the Stena Voyager from Stena, there is no doubt now that it going to be scrapped.
Weather is having an effect on the Rosslare service with Stena Europe sailings cancelled tonight due to the weather and on Sunday for maintenance in Fishguard !!!!
From Ferrycheck "Due to severe gales the 2100hrs from Rosslare 21st March 2013 is cancelled. Passengers are advised to contact Stena Line to make alternative arrangements. Please call 00353 5391 61567."
All passengers presumably transferred to Irish Ferries as the Inishmore is sailing. Obviously the Stena Europe's two weeks in H&W Belfast have not improved its ability to handle high winds, one of the essential requirements for a vessel operating on the southern corridor.
Nice image of the Europe leaving Fishguard here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wdig/8469583965/in/photostream/
After the incident in Rosslare with the Europe hitting the Oscar, wind restrictions have been put on all the vessels, so obviously tonight is too much for the Europe.
QuoteStena Scotia has gone to the Med on a 3 month charter, currently heading to Marseille expected to arrive on the 25th March according to Marinetraffic.
Reports from Sweden today that Stena Metall have purchased the Stena Voyager from Stena, there is no doubt now that it going to be scrapped.
Weather is having an effect on the Rosslare service with Stena Europe sailings cancelled tonight due to the weather and on Sunday for maintenance in Fishguard !!!!
From Ferrycheck "Due to severe gales the 2100hrs from Rosslare 21st March 2013 is cancelled. Passengers are advised to contact Stena Line to make alternative arrangements. Please call 00353 5391 61567."
All passengers presumably transferred to Irish Ferries as the Inishmore is sailing. Obviously the Stena Europe's two weeks in H&W Belfast have not improved its ability to handle high winds, one of the essential requirements for a vessel operating on the southern corridor.
Nice image of the Europe leaving Fishguard here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/wdig/8469583965/in/photostream/
I was right Stena Scotia is charted and heading to Marseille I hope and which Stena Scotia a best of luck for the next three month. :)
Nice image of the Mecklenburg Vorpommern in full livery
Is it me or is this thing with the Europe getting beyond a joke??.....
If the Inishmore wasn't so under utilised would the pressure have been on Stena a long time ago to get it sorted?
QuoteIs it me or is this thing with the Europe getting beyond a joke??.....
If the Inishmore wasn't so under utilised would the pressure have been on Stena a long time ago to get it sorted?
Couldn't agree more. I've posted several times that I think the Europe is too long in the tooth and that Fishguard is the poor relation to the other routes, which I have had considerably more investment in tonnage over the last ten years. I know that the Europe has been well looked after and that the interior has been refurbished, but sooner or later she will have to go.
It's also clear that she is underpowered for berthing at Rosslare, or she wouldn't have hit the Oscar Wilde. The Innishmore appears to be a much more stable and better designed ship.
Stena RO/RO could easily source alternative tonnage, or even design a purpose built ship for the route. Like the Superfasts to Belfast, new tonnage can bring new business to a route. If you add to that the proposed redevelopment of Fishguard harbour, that's a fairly potent formula. Stena have managed to achieve growth in very difficult economic times on both sides of the Irish Sea on other routes, so I don't see any reason why that couldn't happen here. Perhaps we should launch a campaign: "Replace the Europe".
Whilst I'm on the subject, a more suitable name would be in order. How about Stena Preseli, or Normandica? Both names have been used before in BR days.
Matt
Stena Line are said to be interested in buying the two cancelled newbuild ferries for Scandlines , they would be ideal replacements for Stena Europe and Stena Dancia if the purchase goes ahead.
@Matt73: Have to agree with you although i must say I am a big fan of the Europe, just find it a nicer place to spend a crossing, there is something very cold or something about the interior of the inishmore. Anyway I just think at this stage it must be starting to hurt Stena, if I was booking in the morning I would book the Inishmore just for peace of mind.
The problem with Investment in the route is the level of risk There were already much higher traffic levels on north irish sea, the decision to overhaul the route (well at least the building of loch ryan) was taken prior to the monetary fiasco we are now in. Stena had committed a lot of money to Loch Ryan so the investment in the Superfasts made sense to gain a return on the overall investment. I just cant see a boardroom taking a decision in the present climate to order such a capital investment on the Fishguard works and a new vessel. That is just my view.
Most likely they would adopt cautious approach of if a good 2nd hand ship comes along at the right money and they have a customer for the Europe then the change will be made.
There are guys on here that know a lot more about this than me so I would love to hear their views.
Just as an aside do you know if the Normandy ever have much trouble berthing at Rosslare?
@Collision:
God the Copenhagen and Berlin are two "interesting" looking ships.... There is a good discussion with Scandlines management about the problems with the ships and the termination of the contract on the magazone link Giftgrub put up the other day.
I think its fair to say that the majority of people on this site are ferry enthusiasts and that everyone wants to see all ferry routes succeed and I also think it would be fair to say that we are all very positive fans of all the ferry companies in Ireland, however after studying the operation of the Rosslare-Fishguard route since it was taken over by Stena Line in the early 90's I think it would be fair to say, they haven't exactly done a great job with the route.
When Stena took over the route it was served by the Felicity and was the second most profitable route in the entire Stena/Sealink network, served by a luxurious cruise ferry with back up freight vessels, since then they replaced the Felicity with the Koningin Beatrix a vessel whilst quite opulent was unsuitable for the route with its low freight capacity, poor manoeuvring capability and also its high crewing requirements (ironically when rebuilt while Stena Baltic converted to double deck loading and the thrusters were upgraded), this was then replaced in 2002 by the Stena Europe which had quite a revamp in the passenger areas before its introduction.
Since the introduction of the Stena Europe it has been maintained on the route with further passenger area upgrade but now in obviously in need of replacement.
Also since Stena took over the level of investment in Fishguard has been very limited, there is no modern wide linkspan to allow rapid discharge from the stern which even the much maligned Rosslare Harbour can offer. This restricts the type of vessel that can be deployed to cover /replace the Stena Europe.
It does appear that Stena Line need to either invest in the route which is a very viable proposition as fresh tonnage will offer an improved passenger experience which they can market on its newness alone, perhaps a major timetable shake up, allowing rail/sail connections, bring back day trips, 48 hr weekend breaks, shopping expeditions to Cardiff etc.
From my own very limited knowledge this is what I think the Rosslare route requires:
New Linkspan – Fishguard – if the proposed Conygar investment ever happens it will be too late, they need to act now to improve the route, and waiting 2/3 years will not work.
New vessel – possibly something like Stena Lagan/Mersey – cost effective, modern comfortable, fuel efficient, fast. Can never see them putting a newbuild on the route.
Possible revised timetable – maybe swap times with Irish Ferries – Rosslare could prosper with alternate crossing times throughout the day improving customer choice and flexibility.
New local marketing – Day trips/48 hr tickets/ shopping trips/ non landing cruises etc
Refit Period: always provide cover through replacement vessel
Maximise the use of the great staff they have and the huge amount of goodwill that they have built up over the years.
With a new vessel with greater freight capacity, increases viability of route, will migrate some freight traffic out of Dublin to Rosslare, surely all freight does not need to go out of Dublin.
Just in case there is any misconception I actually love travelling on the Stena Europe as I find the massive amount of uncluttered outside deck space to be great, I find the passenger areas very nicely laid out and comfortable, the Stena Plus is fabulous (but it is really any better than what was there before the refit lost a little bit of charm) the bar area is huge and can take quite a lot of passengers when watching a match. plenty of space for people to relax, and finally the crew are always very nice and accommodating. Biggest negative is the stairwells and the queue for the car decks when docking.
The Conygar development at Fishguard doesn't include the Port area.
Hi Niall, not sure about that the Conygar investment for Fishguard includes a massive 19 acre increase in standing area for ferry traffic, a major freight park (11 acres) on the outskirts of Fishguard for parking and distribution centres and originally included proposals for a new berth at an angle to the existing quay wall.
http://www.conygar.com/Project/Fishguard/4
http://www.conygar.com/News/FishguardPlanningApplication/44
http://www.conygar.com/News/PlanningConsentAchievedForFishguard/52
If it ever happens it will be an interesting development.
Ironically the central corridor vessels have had a battering in todays stormy weather with all three Stena vessels serving Holyhead suffering cancellations.
http://afloat.ie/port-news/ferry-news/item/21230-stena-line-hss-fast-craft-sailings-cancelled
Looks like Adventurer was hanging around at Holyhead for quite a while today waiting for Nordica & the weather?
How come the Nordica did not run its daytime sailings today - surely as a conventional ship it can hold its own against a bit of bad weather?
I'm in agreement about the layout of the Europe being quite good including the outside space. However, I'd be nervous about traveling back into Rossslare on a windy day. Rosslare needs a massive revamp too. I did complete a questionnaire for Stena about a year ago about the possibility of changing sailing times, but nothing ever came of it.
As far as I am aware there are no plans to construct a new berth at Fishguard at present, nor are there plans to upgrade the existing linkspan. Such a pity really as Fishguard deserves to be treated better by Stena. As for Rosslare the facilities there are a complete joke.
I too enjoy travelling on the Stena Europe and will be sad to see her go though accept that she'll likely have to go sooner or later. A friend said to me possibly her engines could be upgraded to meet the new (sulphur emission?) requirements.
There are a few seats near some of the stairs which are a nice spot for a half an hour if one wants to get away from the mainstream areas (or if one wants to go out on deck/keep an eye out but doesn't want to stay out on deck continuously).
In recent weeks there has been work at Fishguard on both the foot passenger gangway and the side car ramp. Not sure if it's finished yet but us footies (foot passengers) were bussed off/on when I travelled a few weeks ago.
Sail and rail works well at Fishguard due to the terminal having the ship at one side and train the other. Plus train services required by franchise to actually connect! If the new berth is built I presume they'll have a covered indoor walkway linking the Harbour station to the berth - the distance probably would be very similar to that at Rosslare between the terminal and ship.
In my view an efficient port is one which can juggle competing user needs without making any one group of users feel unwanted/ a burden (i.e. freight/truckers; motorists and foot passengers). The new berth plan at Fishguard seems to tick all three boxes in a positive way.
Personally I would like to see Stena going for a revised sailing schedule in the medium term but ideally all needs to happen at once - new vessel, upgraded/new port facilities, new schedule. Not doubting that it wouldn't be a structured plan but very important that every last thing is done to maximise the investment and make it a real success including better rail connections at Rosslare.
Incidentally that survey about possible sailing schedule changes suggested two options:
the first:
Rosslare to Fishguard at 08.30 & 19.00.;
Fishguard to Rosslare at 13:45 & 00:00 (the midnight sailing would give passengers an option to stay in their cabin for six hours)
the other option was:
Rosslare to Fishguard at 02.30 and 16.00 (the 02.30 sailing would give passengers an option to stay in their cabin for six hours)
Fishguard to Rosslare: 10.45 & 21.00
Being able to get the guts of a normal night's sleep onboard will be appealing to truckers, motorists and sail and rail passengers.
First option looks best in my view. A 02.30 sailing ex Rosslare doesn't seem appealing, would require the port facilities to open at that time and would be unlikely to have any train or bus in the middle of the night.
By the way, does anyone know why:
* the 21.15 sailing ex Rosslare was advanced to 21.00 back in 2011?
* the 21.00 is shown as just taking 3 1/4 hrs as opposed to the 3 1/2 hrs for all the other sailings?
(Have no complaint or issue - just curious!)
Do you know what work on the foot passenger gangway has been done at Fishguard in recent weeks?
Don't know what work exactly though four weeks is a significant amount of time so am inclined to think quite a lot of work has taken place.
The flyer I picked up refers to "essential Port maintenance" taking place on 17th Feb for approx. 4 weeks.
It also refers to the side-loading ramp and gangway being inoperable.
Hopefully they did away with the mobile crane to lift the foot pasenger gangway. I presume the gangway has been fitted with proper hydraulics making use of the crane redundant.
Stena Adventurer cancelled her sailings today and stayed alongside in Dublin all day due to technical problems.
She is expected to be back on schedule for this evenings crossing.
Hi .. My name is Caoimhin .. My dad is a Lorry driver and use stena/Irishferries alot to holyhead .. so im a lorry enthusiast and a ferry enthusiast ...
Anyway ..
Just saw the Hss Explorer Doin 40knots on a public crossing to holyhead ... Doesnt it usually not do 25knots on public crossings ??
She is only restricted to 19 knots between South Burford buoy and Dun Laoghaire harbour mouth.
QuoteHi .. My name is Caoimhin .. My dad is a Lorry driver and use stena/Irishferries alot to holyhead .. so im a lorry enthusiast and a ferry enthusiast ...
Anyway ..
Just saw the Hss Explorer Doin 40knots on a public crossing to holyhead ... Doesnt it usually not do 25knots on public crossings ??
Actually took a screen shot of this too before logging on to the forum.
Not like stena to run the HSS at 3/4 (30kn) speed never mind the full 40 knots.
Not unless they have to give the 4 engines a good spin every so often.
Dont think oil prices would have dropped would they?
Stena Precision has been at anchor in Belfast Lough all weekend (Bangor Bay) and tug MCS Ailsa appears to be in attendance this evening, anyone know what's happening?
Not 100% confirmed but it is supposed to have got one of its anchors tangled up in a large chain !! they are attempting to cut the chain off before it is allowed into Belfast.
Quote
Just saw the Hss Explorer Doin 40knots on a public crossing to holyhead ... Doesnt it usually not do 25knots on public crossings ??
You were lucky every time I see it she is only doing 26 knots.
QuoteQuote
Just saw the Hss Explorer Doin 40knots on a public crossing to holyhead ... Doesnt it usually not do 25knots on public crossings ??
You were lucky every time I see it she is only doing 26 knots.
maybe the wind was favourable lol ? or maybe they had some fuel donated from the tanks of the voyager for a joyride.
Good to see Explorer really put the boot down today!
She left Holyhead two hours late because of the nasty weather but got to Dun Laoghaire by 1410 which is about 100 minutes by my calculations. Got turned around in 45 minutes and back out by 1455, arriving back in Holyhead about 100 minutes later again. Now that's impressive!
Conditions on the Irish Sea were far from ideal today but Nordica was missing for a lap today so there was quite a bit of traffic waiting at Holyhead - too much for Adventurer to take alone. Explorers run tomorrow is cancelled - weather forecast is a strong Easterly again so she can rest and not use fuel for the day :).
Pete
I know .. was surprised seeing it do 40knots .. highest b4 ive just saw it do 30 .. i say it was doin 40knots cus of the weather .. if it did 25 it would of been bad to fight the weather ?
The Stena Precision has had the chain removed and is back in service
Images from Marinetraffic.com
Was there freight on the precision ?
QuoteWas there freight on the precision ?
I think so yea, It was a routine run but the bad weather meant Belfast closed the port so it anchored until it was reopened. A few ships have lost their anchors in that anchorage, so perhaps she got her anchor entangled with one of them. Most freight on the Stena Precision is unaccompanied though!
Yeahh .. been on a seatruck boat before .. warrenpoint heysham .. thanks for the info
QuoteI too enjoy travelling on the Stena Europe and will be sad to see her go though accept that she'll likely have to go sooner or later. A friend said to me possibly her engines could be upgraded to meet the new (sulphur emission?) requirements.
There are a few seats near some of the stairs which are a nice spot for a half an hour if one wants to get away from the mainstream areas (or if one wants to go out on deck/keep an eye out but doesn't want to stay out on deck continuously).
In recent weeks there has been work at Fishguard on both the foot passenger gangway and the side car ramp. Not sure if it's finished yet but us footies (foot passengers) were bussed off/on when I travelled a few weeks ago.
Sail and rail works well at Fishguard due to the terminal having the ship at one side and train the other. Plus train services required by franchise to actually connect! If the new berth is built I presume they'll have a covered indoor walkway linking the Harbour station to the berth - the distance probably would be very similar to that at Rosslare between the terminal and ship.
In my view an efficient port is one which can juggle competing user needs without making any one group of users feel unwanted/ a burden (i.e. freight/truckers; motorists and foot passengers). The new berth plan at Fishguard seems to tick all three boxes in a positive way.
Personally I would like to see Stena going for a revised sailing schedule in the medium term but ideally all needs to happen at once - new vessel, upgraded/new port facilities, new schedule. Not doubting that it wouldn't be a structured plan but very important that every last thing is done to maximise the investment and make it a real success including better rail connections at Rosslare.
Incidentally that survey about possible sailing schedule changes suggested two options:
the first:
Rosslare to Fishguard at 08.30 & 19.00.;
Fishguard to Rosslare at 13:45 & 00:00 (the midnight sailing would give passengers an option to stay in their cabin for six hours)
the other option was:
Rosslare to Fishguard at 02.30 and 16.00 (the 02.30 sailing would give passengers an option to stay in their cabin for six hours)
Fishguard to Rosslare: 10.45 & 21.00
Being able to get the guts of a normal night's sleep onboard will be appealing to truckers, motorists and sail and rail passengers.
First option looks best in my view. A 02.30 sailing ex Rosslare doesn't seem appealing, would require the port facilities to open at that time and would be unlikely to have any train or bus in the middle of the night.
By the way, does anyone know why:
* the 21.15 sailing ex Rosslare was advanced to 21.00 back in 2011?
* the 21.00 is shown as just taking 3 1/4 hrs as opposed to the 3 1/2 hrs for all the other sailings?
(Have no complaint or issue - just curious!)
It's good to see that my remarks have generated some debate about Fishguard and the future of the Stena Europe.
The discussion about the gangway really says it all! That they have been using a crane to lift it in place in the year 2013 speaks volumes really.
As for the side loading ramp, that's another relic from the past. Any future ship really needs a proper double deck linkspan. Presumably the development plans allow for that. The existing one contains the original ramp from the early 1970s and I suspect that replacing it will be tax even the best engineers. At Harwich, they simply built around the old one at berth two back in the early 1990s (where the Britannica and Hollandica now berth) but I doubt they would be able to do that at Fishguard.
It would be nice to think they would go for a new build to replace the Europe. It's not so far-fetched an idea when you recall that Stena RO/RO designed the F-Max class for the now defunt Fleetwood-Larne service; it was never built as they decided to close the route.
I have previously posted here that I had hoped the old Seafrance Molliere (can't remember what her new DFDS name is) might have been bought/chartered for Fishguard, but she is way to big and they would have to get rid of the disgusting cowcatcher that ruins her bow! Especially as somebody posted recently that the Innishmore never sails to capacity...
I like the look of some of the proposed timetable options too.
Perhaps Stena could hire some of us on here to run Fishguard-Rosslare 2020: a seven year plan to transform the southern corridor. I reckon we'd make a pretty good fist of it! Any takers?!
Matt
QuoteWas there freight on the precision ?
I would think that with the Stena Precision sitting so high in the water and no sign of trailers on on the ship that if there was freight on the vessel there was very little, more than likely empty.
Not good for stena .. shes not earning then lol
Looks like stena hss explorer's highest speed to Dun loaghaire was 30.5knots today ! shes doin 28.5 back to holyhead at the minute .. !
Explorer must have the best record of being on-time! How good is it to have the ability to increase speed from 20-40 knots to catch up any delay caused before?
Yeahh it seems to be doin in round 29/30 knots lately .. wonder why its not sticking to 25knots :O Boardness fighting the captain lol ?
Any sign of the Voyager leaving belfast yet for scrap?
Really will be an end of an era when she finally goes.
Cue the word from the Lord :D.
I don't think there's no news about Stena Voyager just yet? [smiley=undecided.gif]
I'm sure Griftgrub said she'd been sold to Stena Metal.
QuoteAny sign of the Voyager leaving belfast yet for scrap?
Really will be an end of an era when she finally goes.
At least we can say we sailed on the greatest craft to sail on the north channel
Now we have to go back in time to pre-1996 to the old slow boats
Stena Lines latest vessel the "New Blue Ocean"
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1774317
http://stenadaea.com/
http://stenadaea.com/customer/customer_photo.asp
I know its early morning but all Stena Line websites are offline , anyone know if its maintenance or something more serious?
back now it seems, must have just been routine
The Stena Europe conducted an evening cruise along the Wexford coast this evening as docking was delayed due to high winds in Rosslare.
From Ferrycheck:
"Due to adverse weather conditions in Rosslare the Stena Europe has been unable to dock, it will dock at approx 21:30 and sail again for Fishguard @ 22:30. Stena Line apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
Stena Line FERRYCHECK Rosslare . 00353 53 9161505 "
The Baltic sea based Watling Street is currently in drydock in Gdynia, one assumes getting a full repaint to Stena Line livery, it is being covered by the Finnarrow.
Stena Line's Swedish ships are starting their drydocking period. the Stena Saga is out of service for one week from April 7th- 13th.
The Stena Jutlandica from April 15-25th and Stena Danica from April 26th - May 5th.
The Stena Saga will have no cover provided while off service, the HSS Stena Carisma returns to service on April 17th to provide cover on the Gothenburg - Fredrickhsavn route.
Stena Line Freight have introduced a new brochure which includes details on the Stena Sea Line operation from Turkey.
http://www.sebroschyr.se/stenafreight/WebView/
I saw the Stena Voyager when i was coming off the Stena superfast 7 ! I was pretty shocked to see it there as i thought it had gone ?? Was in full livery too .. ! Maby stena have something up there sleeve there gona suprise us with ?? .. Will put pictures up later !
how do you mean ' full livery"? she's always been like that right?
she's a lost cause, but I share your optimism haha.
would be nice to see the pic! :)
Yes, the Stena Voyager is in Belfast as it has not left yet, and does indeed remain in full Stena Line livery as it always has.
The vessel is now owned by Stena Metall and the process of removing the Voyager to Sweden is underway with lots of issues to sort out for the tow. Its not as simple to tow a massive twin hulled vessel with no traditional bow mooring (Like the Pride of Dover) system so there may be some bracing added to the bow for the tow (or not) all depends on the experts opinion.
Most of the onboard furniture and equipment have been removed for use on other Irish sea vessels, a lot of technical equipment including the massive water jets have been removed to keep as spare parts for the Explorer. There were also reports of the remaining fuel being removed late last week as the turbines will not run again while fitted in the Voyager.
Unfortunately there are no further plans for the Voyager it is going to be heading to a scrapyard within the next few weeks.
Plenty of images of the Voyager available here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157633045950508/
Also image of the Watling Street in drydock in Gdynia from Marine Traffic.
QuoteYes, the Stena Voyager is in Belfast as it has not left yet, and does indeed remain in full Stena Line livery as it always has.
The vessel is now owned by Stena Metall and the process of removing the Voyager to Sweden is underway with lots of issues to sort out for the tow. Its not as simple to tow a massive twin hulled vessel with no traditional bow mooring (Like the Pride of Dover) system so there may be some bracing added to the bow for the tow (or not) all depends on the experts opinion.
Most of the onboard furniture and equipment have been removed for use on other Irish sea vessels, a lot of technical equipment including the massive water jets have been removed to keep as spare parts for the Explorer. There were also reports of the remaining fuel being removed late last week as the turbines will not run again while fitted in the Voyager.
Unfortunately there are no further plans for the Voyager it is going to be heading to a scrapyard within the next few weeks.
Plenty of images of the Voyager available here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157633045950508/
Also image of the Watling Street in drydock in Gdynia from Marine Traffic.
Unbelievable!!!
How Stena could be so stupid
This is a piece of history they are destroying
The Lord that is Griftgrub has spoken. Goodbye HSS Stena Voyager, thank you for 17 years of service (even though for the past few months you've been laid up).
I just find out on marine traffic galleries that Scottish Viking have receive a stena line logo on her funnel look at this picture when your press the hyperlink here.
http://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1134172&size=full
The Watling Street has been renamed and is now called the Stena Flavia.
QuoteThe Watling Street has been renamed and is now called the Stena Flavia.
That is a very good name for Watling Street and that is a very good job for stena line. :)
I second that :D.
isnt that what alan partridge used drink when he was hanging around the garage?
Quoteisnt that what alan partridge used drink when he was hanging around the garage?
You are spot on, the king of coffee
1m 47 in on link below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXTZQB16p0Q&feature=player_detailpage#t=107s
The former Stena Baltica, now SNAV Adriatico has left Naples, current destination Messina. It is due to enter service for SNAV on April 27th between Ancona and Split.
http://magazine.snav.it/promozione-croazia-auto-moto/
The Stena Flavia is out of dry dock and judging by the VERY recent marine traffic pictures, she has had a complete hull repaint short of the full Stena Line livery; white hull with red at the bottom and white funnel with black on top. Now I'm not sure whether this means she's going elsewhere or not, but if you were a big ferry company, why bother renaming a vessel with the company naming policy at drydock, but not repaint her in the company livery?
The water jets haven't been removed, there still in place. I was on sf7 yesterday and today and seen them while boarding
QuoteYes, the Stena Voyager is in Belfast as it has not left yet, and does indeed remain in full Stena Line livery as it always has.
The vessel is now owned by Stena Metall and the process of removing the Voyager to Sweden is underway with lots of issues to sort out for the tow. Its not as simple to tow a massive twin hulled vessel with no traditional bow mooring (Like the Pride of Dover) system so there may be some bracing added to the bow for the tow (or not) all depends on the experts opinion.
Most of the onboard furniture and equipment have been removed for use on other Irish sea vessels, a lot of technical equipment including the massive water jets have been removed to keep as spare parts for the Explorer. There were also reports of the remaining fuel being removed late last week as the turbines will not run again while fitted in the Voyager.
Unfortunately there are no further plans for the Voyager it is going to be heading to a scrapyard within the next few weeks.
Plenty of images of the Voyager available
Also image of the Watling Street in drydock in Gdynia from Marine Traffic.
Has anyone noticed any construction on Voyager's nose? any contraption that will enable them to tow her?
article on her: http://www.bairdmaritime.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=14050:hss-readies-for-breakers&catid=71&Itemid=63
It would be funny if the Eide Fighter was tasked with the job lol!
I didnt notice anything different about it, looks the same as it always did,
QuoteHas anyone noticed any construction on Voyager's nose? any contraption that will enable them to tow her?
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The water jets haven't been removed, there still in place. I was on sf7 yesterday and today and seen them while boarding
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Not sure if all the water jets were removed, there have definitely been major components removed and one complete waterjet unit has been seen in Holyhead recently.
As for the Stena Flavia's new paint job, one assumes that any rebranding work will be carried out while the ship is in port as they only drydocked the vessel for a week, they probably ran out of time to put the name on the ship, or it could be up for charter and may not be rebranded at all.
The paint job is very similar to the Norman Asturias (another Stena ro ro ship).
There are reports on FONE that Stena Line are about to undergo a major transformation to a "low cost ferry operator" whatever that will mean and this is accompanied by rumours of a major new build programme to replace many of the their ageing and expensive to run vessels for a common design that can be modified (during the build phase) for use on different routes, obviously these are rumours at the moment and based on a long term plan over the next 10-15 years.
Some interesting images of the Stena Jutlandica in drydock on this link:
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=28031.msg251381#msg251381
Oh I see they've taken the wind turbines off the bow.
Hi giftgrub, All 4 waterjets are still in place, i dbl checked as i seen an earlier post and thought i wud just have a nosey while i was on my weekend trip. Mind you i wudnt like the task of removing them as it wud be hard where she sits at the minute.
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The water jets haven't been removed, there still in place. I was on sf7 yesterday and today and seen them while boarding
Not sure if all the water jets were removed, there have definitely been major components removed and one complete waterjet unit has been seen in Holyhead recently.
As for the Stena Flavia's new paint job, one assumes that any rebranding work will be carried out while the ship is in port as they only drydocked the vessel for a week, they probably ran out of time to put the name on the ship, or it could be up for charter and may not be rebranded at all.
The paint job is very similar to the Norman Asturias (another Stena ro ro ship).
There are reports on FONE that Stena Line are about to undergo a major transformation to a "low cost ferry operator" whatever that will mean and this is accompanied by rumours of a major new build programme to replace many of the their ageing and expensive to run vessels for a common design that can be modified (during the build phase) for use on different routes, obviously these are rumours at the moment and based on a long term plan over the next 10-15 years.
The windy weather has again caused Stena to cancel sailings of the Stena Europe while the Isle of Inishmore sails on regardless.
One wonders what effect this distinct lack of reliability is having on bookings on the Rosslare - Fishguard route, also the amount of money Stena are paying Irish Ferries to carry their customers on the southern corridor cannot be helping the routes profitability and does the Europe have a technical issue restricting its ability to sail in high winds ?
Are we about to see a joint operation (code sharing in airline terminology) on the Rosslare route similar to the cooperation between Sealink and B&I in the Eighties ?
Ex Dublin Adventurer cancelled @ 21.15hrs & ex Holyhead 02.30hrs as well, Ulysses sailed ex Dublin
After the incident in Rosslare the Europe now has a wind restriction on her in Rosslare, that's why she is cancelling a lot more frequently now.
QuoteEx Dublin Adventurer cancelled @ 21.15hrs & ex Holyhead 02.30hrs as well, Ulysses sailed ex Dublin
Good old Ulysses!!
I'm On ulysses at the minute guys ! Pretty rough .. Could fall out of the bed in the cabin but sure yeahh !! Shes rough i can tell you that !
I'm in a lorry btw and they chained the lorrys down well .. Most times when its not rough they dont really bother chaining them down !
Keep safe out there .. Hopefully captain will go full speed to Maintain full comfort and will arrive inn holyhead at 0020hrs as scheduled :D Night ! im going to go to bed now !
Not sure if this is a real picture (non photoshopped), but first image I have found of the former Stena Baltica as the Snav Adriatico in full SNAV livery.
http://www.naviearmatori.net/ita/foto-180737-1.html
QuoteI'm On ulysses at the minute guys ! Pretty rough .. Could fall out of the bed in the cabin but sure yeahh !! Shes rough i can tell you that !
I'm in a lorry btw and they chained the lorrys down well .. Most times when its not rough they dont really bother chaining them down !
Keep safe out there .. Hopefully captain will go full speed to Maintain full comfort and will arrive inn holyhead at 0020hrs as scheduled :D Night ! im going to go to bed now !
Must have seen you at check in, knowing the master on duty tonight he will try his best to arrive in HHD on time :D ;)
QuoteAfter the incident in Rosslare the Europe now has a wind restriction on her in Rosslare, that's why she is cancelling a lot more frequently now.
Any idea what the wind restriction is for Europe in Rosslare now?
I think it's a real photo griftgrub, as ferry companies won't photoshop a picture with another ferry, from another ferry line, in the foreground.
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One wonders what effect this distinct lack of reliability is having on bookings on the Rosslare - Fishguard route, also the amount of money Stena are paying Irish Ferries to carry their customers on the southern corridor cannot be helping the routes profitability and does the Europe have a technical issue restricting its ability to sail in high winds ?
Are we about to see a joint operation (code sharing in airline terminology) on the Rosslare route similar to the cooperation between Sealink and B&I in the Eighties ?
A code share would suggest mutual contribution to the growth of passenger traffic on the route. In this case, it's just Stena giving IF extra revenue, extra passengers, and a free opprotunity to sample the competition's offering.
With the Adventurer, Nordica and Europe all out of action this evening, Stena really need to get their Irish Sea ships and thrusters sorted out. After the lack of awareness of what was happening at ground level shown in Undercover Boss, I wonder if the same might be happening here.
It has reached a point now where it can only be called silly, stena line have a lot of ships at their disposal but continue to use an unsuitable ship on this route, much as i love the europe i think the time is here for a change
QuoteQuoteAfter the incident in Rosslare the Europe now has a wind restriction on her in Rosslare, that's why she is cancelling a lot more frequently now.
Any idea what the wind restriction is for Europe in Rosslare now?
No, sorry. I just heard all the ships had to tell port control the maximum wind speeds that they could safely operate.
QuoteQuoteI'm On ulysses at the minute guys ! Pretty rough .. Could fall out of the bed in the cabin but sure yeahh !! Shes rough i can tell you that !
I'm in a lorry btw and they chained the lorrys down well .. Most times when its not rough they dont really bother chaining them down !
Keep safe out there .. Hopefully captain will go full speed to Maintain full comfort and will arrive inn holyhead at 0020hrs as scheduled :D Night ! im going to go to bed now !
Must have seen you at check in, knowing the master on duty tonight he will try his best to arrive in HHD on time :D ;)
Ferryman, I wonder who you are!!!! ;D ;D ;D
My last trip on The Stena Europe was in a Force 8 outward from Fishguard, and it felt like she had no stabilisation if that experience was anything to go by.
Usually, a strong swell hardly ever makes me feel ill but this time it did. In the year 2013 and considering the quality they have on other routes, I am amazed that Stena see it perfectly acceptable to place their customers on a heavily used and worn down vessel like the "Europe", Just as larry said, they have many ships at disposal. I know people who opt for the Inishmore because of the worry of the "Europe" making them ill in a storm.
Your not the first person to remark in the lack of comfort on the Europe at the moment, a relative of mine travelled in the last few weeks and remarked that it was not a comfortable as previous crossings.
I think the number of crossings missed have more to do with a technical issue than the wind levels previously mentioned.
I hate to say this but I do think we are witnessing the endgame for the Rosslare - Fishguard service at the moment as the worlds leading ferry operator seem unable to provide the route with the ships it deserves.
They had the Stena Baltica laid up for over a year without trying it out on its old route despite it having had its bow thrusters upgraded and rear steering improved,converted to double deck loading, can carry haz freight and reduced level of cabins.
I think if Stena wanted they could have replaced the Europe with fresher tonnage long ago. If they do pull the route you can just imagine the usual reasons, traffic was declining, not enough passengers, not enough freight etc, how they expect to attract them when they are cancelling so many sailings and not offering the usual high standard of service that people expect will make it harder to attract the required customers.
There are quite a few vessels available this year through Stena RoRo and on the open market, it really is time Stena stepped up to the plate and invested in this service.
QuoteIf they do pull the route you can just imagine the usual reasons, traffic was declining, not enough passengers, not enough freight etc, how they expect to attract them when they are cancelling so many sailings and not.
Although I've only travelled to Fishguard and not Pembroke, I presume the route from Fishguard is actually superior because it offers fuel savings from a shorter crossing and additional revenue from Rail / Sail passengers (albeit small, I'm sure). Therefore, I would have thought if the opportunity arose, IF would switch to Fishguard (unless they've heavily invested in Pembroke). Stena's crossing map, with 3 links between Britain and Ireland, always looks impressive, and cutting one of them makes them look less connected. Therefore, I would think it's unlikely Stena would simply relinquish Fishguard and it's more likely to limp along as present, seemingly without much of a plan.
Aha must have lad must have ! Do you work at irish ferries dublin ?
Sadly i would of been coming back in the lorry on the 2:40am sailing but not going to make it :( will be on 8:55 stena instead :( awhh well good times bad times
Two photos of the HSS VOYAGER on 6th april sorry when i said i would upload them and im only doin it now ! lol
as if she was ready to leave!
looks good still. it'll be strange when she finally does leave
I guess we can all agree now that the jets are still attached?
Would've been nice if they could floor it to scandinavia under its own power, break a record or two.
do you guys think she will stop over at all when being towed at say rotterdam or something? Could be my chance to see her.
I know .. It maby would be cheaper possible ( might sound stupid as hss is a heavy boat to run) to run it to stena metals than send tugs to tow it .. sure the tugs would have to refuel somewere on the journey to stena metals ?
the jets r defo on as seen on pic 1 i think
The Waterjets mentioned in previous posts are not visible in these images as they are at the waterline, as per image below.
The turbines which vent through the exhaust are still on the HSS and will not be removed until the vessel is scrapped.
While is has been suggested that all four waterjets are still present and intact on the Voyager it was reported that major parts have been removed and also it is possible to ballast the HSS to bring the bow down and the stern up to faciliate this type of work. (still not an easy job though)
Waterjet image from Wikipedia
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Waterjet_on_HSS_Discovery.jpg
Also please find video of HSS Stena Explorer leaving Dun Laoghaire. The external parts of the waterjets can be can be clearly seen at work here turning the craft. There are also components inside the hulls that work the waterjet system so some of these parts could have been removed also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zsNnVjdrns
[media width=600]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zsNnVjdrns [/media]
Re/ Rosslare-Fishguard & The Stena Europe
I've had similar concerns and thoughts over recent days and weeks with the number of cancellations that have occurred and feel it's fair comment to say they've reach a disproportionate level.
I agree with the very valid points made by Larry and others. I hope giftgrub's end game concern will not happen but it's a very real concern and I do feel in recent times we've transitioned from a period when the route's future was "safe" to one where a noticeable to all, unwelcome and potentially dangerous cloud is hovering over it. Now some black clouds can disperse and hopefully this is just a passing difficult phase.
The summer season is fast approaching and hopefully it will be a good summer both in meteorological and traffic terms. If however the summer turns into a list of cancellations it'll be a nasty blow for the route. If the problems continue and intensify into the Autumn and Winter well...
A replacement vessel needs to be deployed on the route before the end of the year - ideally by Autumn.
It would be nice to have a revamped port at Fishguard, possible new sailing schedule and new vessel in one go (would be a neat package in marketing terms) but with the present situation I believe the first two items can and indeed must wait.
The replacement vessel need not be a permanent replacement for the next decade (it may only be for a year or two) but it needs to appear on the route this year.
Once the core product is brought back to Stena's usual high standards and the new vessel has "settled in" attention can then focus on targeted measures to regain any lost traffic.
In terms of Sail and rail while the fare is low in revenue terms spending on board can bring that up - On occasions on the night sailing I've had a cabin and either bought a few items or had food. By no means have I been extravagant but have calculated that my onboard spend actually yielded Stena more than their share of the Sail and rail ticket.
I sincerely hope a positive announcement will be on the cards in the next few months and that these concerns can be put to rest. My points are not intended to be a criticism of Stena but are out of concern.
I hope you are right, with Stena's rumoured switch to a "Low Cost Operator" it might see the light and heavily promote the Rosslare - Fishguard service with unbeatable value for mid week returns, non landing night cruises, day trips, 48hr weekend tickets (especially with Cardiff joining Swansea in the Premiership), Oakwood trips combined with one night in Wales, better freight rates to take traffic from Dublin the potential is great for the future.
None of the above can happen unless the service becomes reliable again, I grew up watching the Stena Normandica/St Brendans morning departure (except Mondays, i think it skipped that sailing) and followed by the Felicity and KB which all ran a vastly more reliable service against B&I and Irish Ferries at the time.
I love sailing on the Europe and look forward to my next trip in Sept but the last few months level of cancellations have been shocking and I hope things do improve, it would be a pity if after 107 years in operation the Rosslare - Fishguard route was mismanged into oblivion.
One possible solution is the Norman Asturias which is due to finish its charter with LD Lines later this year, with some TLC and interior upgrading it would have potential and the extra speed could reduce crossing times to compensate for stern loading.
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Norman-Asturias.aspx
there have been so many questions raised regarding the management of irish ferries but it must be said, fair is fair, a direct comparison of all aspects on the rosslare route of both companies makes stena line look like a laughing stock, its almost like the just want to write off the route asap
The actual waterjet is not visable but you can see the wires if thats the right thing im seeing lol
There are two blue HSS waterjets sat on the ground in Holyhead, I assume they are from Stena Voyager?
(New Poster, Hi everybody!)
Doesn't seem so, according to the previous picture showing them still in situ.
I suspect these will be spares that have been around for some time, possibly moved to Holyhead as they will now be rather useless anywhere else.
should know soon enough i think, i suspect you may be right
I think this is the calm before the storm, because this forum page will be buzzing when it's finally announced that the Voyager is going for scrap.
QuoteI think this is the calm before the storm, because this forum page will be buzzing when it's finally announced that the Voyager is going for scrap.
she's going alright, but when and how remains to be seen?
In some ways I'm thinking: let's just get it over with lol
Oh I totally agree!
The Snav Adriatico (former Stena Baltica) has arrived in Ancona ahead of the start of its Ancona-Split service starting on April 27th.
Stena Line appear to be rebranding the Belfast - Liverpool service as Supercruise.
Interior shots of the Birkenhead vessels, exterior shots of the Superfasts and Harwich - Hoek twins.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5O4dD0MzOw&feature=player_detailpage
[media width=600]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5O4dD0MzOw&feature=player_detailpage[/media]
Rosslare Maritime were up early this morning to capture some shots of the Stena Europes arrival in Rosslare this morning. Looking nice and calm.
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.185221748296298.1073741830.100004254218461&type=1
Lots of activity at the HSS berth in Belfast, seems the Voyager will be towed stern first to Landskrona, Sweden for recycling
(below posted on FONE)
Stena Voyager Makes Final Journey
Stena Line's HSS vessel, the Stena Voyager, which operated on the Belfast-Stranraer route between 1996 - 2011, is about to make her last journey as she heads to the recycling yard. When the Stena Voyager was first introduced
in the middle of the '90s, the ferry was unique in its class and since its first sailing, the ship has carried over 17 million passengers and made over 45,000 sailings between Northern Ireland and Scotland.
When commissioned by Stena Line, the HSS series of three ships, including the Stena Voyager, helped to revolutionised the look of the ferry industry. With its top speed of 40 knots and high quality onboard travel experience for 1,500
passengers and its freight capacity of 375 vehicles, the ferry became an instant hit with customers.
"Whilst the HSS class was a unique and highly innovative development for Stena Line, unfortunately the spiralling costs of operating the Stena Voyager have become all too high. When the Voyager was first put into service fuel was
approximately $20 per barrel and now the price is around $110 dollar, for a fuel hungry vessel this is simply untenable," said Michael McGrath, Stena Line's Chief Operating Officer.
"We live in different times now and we have to invest in more fuel efficient services for our freight and travel passengers. As a result we have now introduced two Superfast ferries on the service between Northern Ireland and Scotland and we have constructed new ports in both Cairnryan and Belfast to give our freight and travel customers one of the best ferry experiences on the Irish
Sea."
The Stena Voyager will now be moved to the Öresundsvarvet shipyard in Landskrona, Sweden, where she will be recycled by Stena Line's sister company, Stena Recycling.
All of the Stena Voyager's various components will be recycled, as far as is possible, helping the company to maintain its environmentally responsible reputation.
"Recycling the Stena Voyager is a unique and interesting project. There are many different types of material to recycle, and this will be done in several stages. The project requires highly experienced personnel and efficient recycling
processes, which we possess," said Staffan Persson, MD, Stena Recycling. "Recycling the large quantities of aluminium in the Stena Voyager will save up to 150 metric tonnes of carbon dioxide and the metal can be reused in the form
of car parts or furniture for example."
The Stena Voyager was designed by another company in the Stena Sphere Group, Stena Teknik and at the time was one of the most revolutionary designed and constructed ships in the world.
Images of the Stena Danica in drydock available here:
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=28120.0
SNAV Adriatico (former Stena Baltica) has started its new service from Ancona - Split for SNAV.
any info on the final route and date for the trip? i hope someone will take pictures.
must be strange to see her leave with the back end first.
QuoteLots of activity at the HSS berth in Belfast, seems the Voyager will be towed stern first to Landskrona, Sweden for recycling
(below posted on FONE)
Stena Voyager Makes Final Journey
Stena Line's HSS vessel, the Stena Voyager, which operated on the Belfast-Stranraer route between 1996 - 2011, is about to make her last journey as she heads to the recycling yard. When the Stena Voyager was first introduced
in the middle of the '90s, the ferry was unique in its class and since its first sailing, the ship has carried over 17 million passengers and made over 45,000 sailings between Northern Ireland and Scotland.
When commissioned by Stena Line, the HSS series of three ships, including the Stena Voyager, helped to revolutionised the look of the ferry industry. With its top speed of 40 knots and high quality onboard travel experience for 1,500
passengers and its freight capacity of 375 vehicles, the ferry became an instant hit with customers.
"Whilst the HSS class was a unique and highly innovative development for Stena Line, unfortunately the spiralling costs of operating the Stena Voyager have become all too high. When the Voyager was first put into service fuel was
approximately $20 per barrel and now the price is around $110 dollar, for a fuel hungry vessel this is simply untenable," said Michael McGrath, Stena Line's Chief Operating Officer.
"We live in different times now and we have to invest in more fuel efficient services for our freight and travel passengers. As a result we have now introduced two Superfast ferries on the service between Northern Ireland and Scotland and we have constructed new ports in both Cairnryan and Belfast to give our freight and travel customers one of the best ferry experiences on the Irish
Sea."
The Stena Voyager will now be moved to the Öresundsvarvet shipyard in Landskrona, Sweden, where she will be recycled by Stena Line's sister company, Stena Recycling.
All of the Stena Voyager's various components will be recycled, as far as is possible, helping the company to maintain its environmentally responsible reputation.
"Recycling the Stena Voyager is a unique and interesting project. There are many different types of material to recycle, and this will be done in several stages. The project requires highly experienced personnel and efficient recycling
processes, which we possess," said Staffan Persson, MD, Stena Recycling. "Recycling the large quantities of aluminium in the Stena Voyager will save up to 150 metric tonnes of carbon dioxide and the metal can be reused in the form
of car parts or furniture for example."
The Stena Voyager was designed by another company in the Stena Sphere Group, Stena Teknik and at the time was one of the most revolutionary designed and constructed ships in the world.
More images of the SNAV Adriatico from Shipspotting.com.
I suppose it's easier to tow from the stern, rather than the bow of the HSS. It'll be interesting to see her go; it'll be the Pride of Dover all over again!
Thanks Grift, once again you have informed us of your omniscient knowledge ;D.
I wonder if the bow thrusters are still functional? We know she has no rudders, but by reverse towing and making use of the thrusters she may have some, if limited, means of manoeuvring, especially if they hit a windy bit.
I will miss Stena Voyager when she's leaving belfast for scraping in sweden farewell Stena Voyager. :'(
Much better image of the former Stena Baltica in its new SNAV branding.
Taken from Shipspotting.com
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1792328
Anchor handling vessel "AGAT" is underway from Istanbul and is due in Belfast at 12:00 on 2nd May, 2013.
Now what would one need a massive "tug" like that for?
QuoteLots of activity at the HSS berth in Belfast, seems the Voyager will be towed stern first to Landskrona, Sweden for recycling
(below posted on FONE)
Stena Voyager Makes Final Journey
Stena Line's HSS vessel, the Stena Voyager, which operated on the Belfast-Stranraer route between 1996 - 2011, is about to make her last journey as she heads to the recycling yard. When the Stena Voyager was first introduced in the middle of the '90s, the ferry was unique in its class and since its first sailing, the ship has carried over 17 million passengers and made over 45,000 sailings between Northern Ireland and Scotland.
When commissioned by Stena Line, the HSS series of three ships, including the Stena Voyager, helped to revolutionised the look of the ferry industry. With its top speed of 40 knots and high quality onboard travel experience for 1,500 passengers and its freight capacity of 375 vehicles, the ferry became an instant hit with customers.
"Whilst the HSS class was a unique and highly innovative development for Stena Line, unfortunately the spiralling costs of operating the Stena Voyager have become all too high. When the Voyager was first put into service fuel was approximately $20 per barrel and now the price is around $110 dollar, for a fuel hungry vessel this is simply untenable," said Michael McGrath, Stena Line's Chief Operating Officer.
"We live in different times now and we have to invest in more fuel efficient services for our freight and travel passengers. As a result we have now introduced two Superfast ferries on the service between Northern Ireland and Scotland and we have constructed new ports in both Cairnryan and Belfast to give our freight and travel customers one of the best ferry experiences on the Irish Sea."
The Stena Voyager will now be moved to the Öresundsvarvet shipyard in Landskrona, Sweden, where she will be recycled by Stena Line's sister company, Stena Recycling.
All of the Stena Voyager's various components will be recycled, as far as is possible, helping the company to maintain its environmentally responsible reputation.
"Recycling the Stena Voyager is a unique and interesting project. There are many different types of material to recycle, and this will be done in several stages. The project requires highly experienced personnel and efficient recycling processes, which we possess," said Staffan Persson, MD, Stena Recycling. "Recycling the large quantities of aluminium in the Stena Voyager will save up to 150 metric tonnes of carbon dioxide and the metal can be reused in the form of car parts or furniture for example."
The Stena Voyager was designed by another company in the Stena Sphere Group, Stena Teknik and at the time was one of the most revolutionary designed and constructed ships in the world.
Hmmm that's interesting...
Posted on FONE earlier today
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/stena-line-could-axe-up-3306380
QuotePosted on FONE earlier today
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/stena-line-could-axe-up-3306380
That headline was about stena line job cut's in wales is that correct giftgrub?
Correct, I posted a link to the article, which does discuss potential job cuts.
"ONE of the world's largest ferry companies could shed up to 50 jobs from its North Wales base.
Stena Line have announced a major shakeup which will see around 200 posts axed across the company's Europe-wide operations.
Among those under threat are a clutch of positions at the business' office building on Anglesey....
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/stena-line-could-axe-up-3306380
Agat is still heading for Belfast, unless there are some windfarms needing attention, could this be ?
QuoteAgat is still heading for Belfast, unless there are some windfarms needing attention, could this be ?
I think that tug is heading for Stena Voyager? If it is then it will be the end of an era for her. :'(
QuoteStena Line have announced a major shakeup which will see around 200 posts axed across the company's Europe-wide operations.
From the article:
Quote"The RMT are concerned that the company's new CEO of Stena has decided to change the company's mission statement in a bid to become a low cost operation.
"Changing Stena from the 'British Airways' of the sea to the 'Ryanair' of the ferry sector would be a disastrous mistake when the firm is currently renowned for the quality of its service and staff.
Not the first time I've hear of Stena possibly repositioning themselves. Have to agree with the union rep on this occasion, too - I
like Stena and their current service levels, leave them alone... >:(
Well if the Stena Voyager is a sister ship of the Stena Explorer, and the Stena Explorer is well able to get around herself....
Well then why would the Stena Voyager need a tug, Can't she go herself???
QuoteWell if the Stena Voyager is a sister ship of the Stena Explorer, and the Stena Explorer is well able to get around herself....
Well then why would the Stena Voyager need a tug, Can't she go herself???
See giftgrub's post earlier in the thread, a lot of major parts have been removed....
The AGAT is due to arrive in Belfast within the next 24 hours, the Stena Voyager could be leaving for Sweden very soon...
Finally an image of the Port Link the former Stena Caledonia has appeared and it looks quite well in its new colours. The Port Link has not started service for its new owners yet but is expected to begin service in the middle of May.
Some good news for Rosslare - Fishguard perhaps..
STENA Line appoints new route manager
http://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexfordpeople/localnotes/stena-line-appoints-new-route-manager-29215614.html
"STENA Line has appointed Ian Davies as Route Manager for its Irish Sea South region which includes the Rosslare - Fishguard ...... click above link to read more
http://www.transportjournal.com/en/home/news/artikeldetail/ian-davies-takes-up-new-position-at-stena-line.html
http://travelbiz.ie/newsstory/Stena_Line_has_appointed_Ian_Davies_as_the_Route_Manager_for_its_Irish_Sea_South_region
might be a stupid question, but will the tug with the Voyager go north up over scotland or down underneath England towards Sweden? Any difference in terms of rough seas? Is it a trip without pause ?
Will there be people onboard the voyager at all times?
R
Just a guess, but I would have thought it sensible to avoid the busy Dover shipping lanes.
how come the stena voyager dose not show up on www.marinetraffic.com?????????????????????????????
QuoteFinally an image of the Port Link the former Stena Caledonia has appeared and it looks quite well in its new colours. The Port Link has not started service for its new owners yet but is expected to begin service in the middle of May.
Nice new look for Port Link and about time for it. :)
Quotehow come the stena voyager dose not show up on www.marinetraffic.com?????????????????????????????
AIS is turned off...
will they turn it on when they sail it to stena metals tonight ?? it was on the news ! and i also got a pic with its rear doors open tonight from a friend who is waiting on a superfast ferry comin in ..(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/943427_3034535597677_1859154454_n.jpg)
QuoteQuotePosted on FONE earlier today
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/stena-line-could-axe-up-3306380
That headline was about stena line job cut's in wales is that correct giftgrub?
I hope they dont take after Irish Ferries and start employing the foreigners :(
Link to BBC NI News facebook page which has a nice video of the HSS Voyager.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=571009146264311
Voyager will be towed as a dead ship, no ais and no crew on board, the same as Pride of Dover when it was recently taken on its final voyage. The departure has been delayed for technical reasons and is now expected take place over the weekend. The tow is expected to head North as going through the Dover strait with the HSS on tow would possibly be a little bit tricky.
She will be towed stern first by Agat. She is expected at Bruce's Shipyard at the end of next week weather permitting.
QuoteBut sure how was the Stena HSS Voyager towed out of Belfast today, when the AGAT tug is still in belfast?
She wasn't...
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The departure has been delayed for technical reasons and is now expected take place over the weekend.
Yeah I noticed that above by gift grub, but never minded it, sorry!!!!, Any way thanks Kierian.
Well, as I said with the Pride of Dover, at least something is happening with the Stena Voyager, after nearly two years of lay up. Personally, I suspect the same outcome will happen to the HSS Stena Discovery (to give it its full title) within the near future, although she'll be scrapped rather than recycled by Stena Metal.
I was flicking through some ship lists last night when I came across Stena Voyager listed as "Status - Dead" , takes a bit of getting used to , especially as her hull has'nt left yet.
Below from www.shipspotting.com , a little tribute to Stena Voyager
Great shots there. Really will be sad to see her go. Was in Belfast last weekend and popped down for a last look. Really looked like a sad ship.
Giftgrub, any further word on when she might be likely to leave?
Pete
It is such a shame it is not possible to modify the HSS's to run on an alternative (cheaper) fuel , Stena Voyager is far too young for the breakers yard.
Given that back in the early 90's Stena was talking about a fleet of 6 HSS 1500's and 3 HSS 900's , I would say that if it was not for the meteoric rise in fuel prices and Brent Crude had stayed under $25 a barrel that there would be a lot of HSS's in service today , certainly there would be at least 1 each operating from Belfast , Dublin and Rosslare and potentially at least 1 HSS on every Stena route , sadly with Brent consistantly between $100 - $150 per barrel the HSS technology is simply not commercially viable , yes people want speed but not enough of them are prepared to pay the actual cost of that speed , having said all that the HSS project advanced aquadynamic research in leaps and bounds with some very valuable lessons learned from the project , I imagine there will in the future be another generation of high speed vessel , it will be interesting to see what shape they take , sadly for the present day , fuel efficiency is the number one priority driving ship design.
Love it or hate it, its sad to see the Stena Voyager like this. A ship of that age should not be going to the scrap yard. A sign of the times I suppose. I sail on the Stena Explorer a lot and I hope she does not go the same way.
All things going to plan the Voyager should be off to Sweden around 12 today, expect it to depart after the 11.30 Superfast sailing has left Belfast, although that could all change if any technical issues arise.
Any more updates for Voyagers departure, thinking of running down to the beach to see her leave for the final time.
The AGAT is now in the process of leaving Belfast, after making a brief stop at VT4 to pick up the Stena Voyager. Her AIS shows her arriving in Landskrona on 10th May.
So this is it, goodbye Stena Voyager, thank you for your service. I am certain the Discovery will go the same way soon and I suspect the Explorer has about 5 years left at most on the Irish Sea.
I am sorry that such a historical chapter in the British Ferry Industry is starting to come to an end, but I'm not surprised as the fast ferry industry has been in decline for the past 10 years, as companies realise how expensive they are to operate, especially in the temperamental climate of the British Isles.
I hope people have got photos! Another thing is, now the Stena Voyager has finally gone, Stena will now start to convert the berth to conventional format for the Liverpool twins. They haven't mentioned whether the Heysham sisters will move to a new berth at VT4, which would be a good idea.
Looking forward to see photos on here and am genuinely very sad to see HSS Voyager :'(go for recycling she operated for many years a very intensive schedule and had a nice upgrade. However on the brighter side this should see Stena develop a nice Hub terminal at Belfast and are very committed to the Belfast routes this can be seen by such impressive investment.
Stena in fairness were proud of the HSS and developed an amazing flagship craft that will always be something special sad fuel costs has ended her career.
For now we still have HSS Explorer :) which began as the first HSS and look forward to some more trips on her plus her smaller version in Sweden is still in service. The current set up at Holyhead seems to work well but with the new Chief Executive changes may happen as the company is a business which needs to make profit.
What I thinks so great about the HSS is the efficiency the way it docks with such precision and how sleek and roomy it is. Lets hope one day there is a new efficient HSS or atleast if some of its technology such as docking can be applied to other ships. RIP Voyager.
I hate to rain on DanJ's parade but the first route served by an HSS was Belfast / Stranraer and the vessel was the Voyager, soon to be recycled for bean tins :(
QuoteI hate to rain on DanJ's parade but the first route served by an HSS was Belfast / Stranraer and the vessel was the Voyager, soon to be recycled for bean tins :(
I think DanJ is right on this one - Explorer entered service at Dun Laoghaire in April 1996 followed by Voyager in July of that year if I remember rightly.
After all the talk about her departure it is still weird that next time I go to Belfast, Voyager won't be around. Definitely a sad day. Looking at marinetraffic, it looks like she will pass by Express off Camlough in the next hour or so. Sad day!
Pete
1st picture I've seen, on marinetraffic.com. I can't post the link, but if you find AGAT on the site, and look at her gallery, it's there.
Wouldn't it be funny if Voyager could fire up those engines, that tug would have serious problems. :D
Apologies to DanJ, Dublin Pete is right. :-[
First image of the Voyagers final voyage from Marinetraffic.com
and some more images here:
http://pstew.co.uk/shipphotos/stenavoyager.html
Stena Line, are introducing an new (old) look to some of their Swedish based vessels with the return of the lightning flash on the bow. The first images of the Stena Danica with the flashes are available here.
They have been on the recently repainted former Scandlines vessels already but the Danica and Jutlandica are the first Stena Line vessels to regain the flashes.
View images here: (Image taken from this link)
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=28120.msg253706#msg253706
Also image of Stena Jutlandica with its new bow treatment.
Plenty of images of the Snav Adriatico (former Stena Baltica) now in service for SNAV.
interesting to see the C View bar is still available on board.
http://www.ilrestodelcarlino.it/ancona/cronaca/2013/04/27/880178-nuovo-traghetto-snav-spalato.shtml
http://multimedia.quotidiano.net/?tipo=photo&media=60427
Voyagers final departure in video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sBgcfzU2Zk
[media width=600]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sBgcfzU2Zk&feature=player_detailpage [/media]
More images of the Voyagers final trip on Scott Mackeys flickr site
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/8709960001/in/photostream
As per maritime tradition I am unimpressed to see Stena Voyager being towed stern first out of Belfast , I would hope this is because of the HSS's unique hull form meaning it has to be done that way , and not some form of statement about the HSS .
Totally agree with you Collision-course.
Voyager being towed backwards I think is almost certainly due to the front not having appropriate fixings/ strength. If you recall discovery"s incident where its entire nose was crumpled it makes sense. It looks so sad though I agree. Must take some more towing power as well having that weird pontoon shape in front.
Well everybody, tell your friends & family that you can still travel on a HSS between Holyhead & Dún Laoghaire. The Stena Explorer sails everyday until September. Lets all try to keep this wonderful vessel in service as long as possible.
The Voyager is being towed backwards as it does not have a traditional bow with mooring equipment that would normally be used when towing a vessel. The bow area would have been unsuitable for this type of job.
They are making good progress on the tow.
At least she doesn't have as far to travel.
My HSS Toy/model ferry!!!...
AND my Carnival Cruise Line
See
Stena Line Press Release
Stena Line's HSS vessel, the Stena Voyager, which operated on the Belfast-Stranraer route between 1996 – 2011, is about to make her last journey as she heads to the recycling yard. When the Stena Voyager was first introduced in the middle of the '90s, the ferry was unique in its class and since its first sailing, the ship has carried over 17 million passengers and made over 45,000 sailings between Northern Ireland and Scotland.
When commissioned by Stena Line, the HSS series of three ships, including the Stena Voyager, helped to revolutionised the look of the ferry industry. With its top speed of 40 knots and high quality onboard travel experience for 1,500 passengers and its freight capacity of 375 vehicles, the ferry became an instant hit with customers.
"Whilst the HSS class was a unique and highly innovative development for Stena Line, unfortunately the spiralling costs of operating the Stena Voyager have become all too high. When the Voyager was first put into service fuel was approximately $20 per barrel and now the price is around $110 dollar, for a fuel hungry vessel this is simply untenable," said Michael McGrath, Stena Line's Chief Operating Officer."We live in different times now and we have to invest in more fuel efficient services for our freight and travel passengers. As a result we have now introduced two Superfast ferries on the service between Northern Ireland and Scotland and we have constructed new ports in both Cairnryan and Belfast to give our freight and travel customers one of the best ferry experiences on the Irish Sea."
The Stena Voyager will now be moved to the Öresundsvarvet shipyard in Landskrona, Sweden, where she will be recycled by Stena Line's sister company, Stena Recycling. All of the Stena Voyager's various components will be recycled, as far as is possible, helping the company to maintain its environmentally responsible reputation.
"Recycling the Stena Voyager is a unique and interesting project. There are many different types of material to recycle, and this will be done in several stages. The project requires highly experienced personnel and efficient recycling processes, which we possess," said Staffan Persson, MD, Stena Recycling. "Recycling the large quantities of aluminium in the Stena Voyager will save up to 150 metric tonnes of carbon dioxide and the metal can be reused in the form of car parts or furniture for example."
The Stena Voyager was designed by another company in the Stena Sphere Group, Stena Teknik and at the time was one of the most revolutionary designed and constructed ships in the world.
Stena Explorer ( my favrouite ship aswell as ulysses :D ) made an unusual journey across the irish sea to holyhead today ! she didnt loose any time though .. ! Just fuel money as she sped up to about 38knots max i would say although the tracker says 37.7knots
She does that for the weather - was on board the last rough day she ran a few weeks back and she did something very similar. Got up to 41 knots on the GPS that day - pretty impressive and she handles it remarkably well.
Pete
The Agat and Stena Voyager have just passed Gothenburg, they are nearly at the final destination.
Well done giftgrub, excellent as always!
Just so sad.
From the AIS it looks like the AGAT has slowed down and is now being assisted by the Svizters Trym and Mars, to take the Voyager to her final destination at Landskrona.
Images of the HSS Stena Voyager in Sweden this morning available here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skepparn83/8727134443/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skepparn83/8728253832/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skepparn83/8728253626/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skepparn83/8727134195/in/photostream
What wrong Stena Superfast VII is heading for Ship repair in Belfast any problem with her? Some her sailing cancelled till tomorrow's 15.30 from Belfast
The Stena Voyager arrived at the shipyard in Landskrona yesterday, images of the Voyager available here:
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=28278.msg254654#msg254654
The Superfast VII was out of service for routine maintenance and will returned to service this morning.
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The Superfast VII was out of service for routine maintenance and will returned to service this morning.
VII did infact return to service with the 15.30 sailing from Belfast today.
More images of the Voyager in Sweden here:
http://www.sjofartsbloggen.se/archives/1139
STENA VOYAGER is in AIS !! Cant belive my eyes right now !
And the HSS Discovery seems to not be on AIS no more .. ? hmm
Another chance to buy the Stena Line book from ferry publications, if you have not got this book and enjoy following the ferry industry this is a great addition to any library
http://www.ferrypubs.co.uk/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=&P_ID=604
*Unconfirmed* reports from Sweden that Stena have bought the laid up Norman Trader, the last vessel in the Epic shipping fleet, for use within the Stena Line network. The source indicates it is to run as freight back up alongside the Stena Vision and Stena Spirit on the Karlskrona- Gdynia route.
They bought the other four ro-ro vessels from the Epic Fleet - Stena Lagan, Stena Mersey, Stena Flavia and Norman Voyager last year.
These are unconfirmed reports and may turn out to be inaccurate.
The Norman Trader has been laid up for a long time and will require a major overhaul before going into service for any operator.
Maybe Stena Voyager has been given a reprieve.
Thanks for the interesting news griftgrub and I hope it's true. At least she won't have to travel that far in order to get repaired and Stena do have the money to fund it.
QuoteAnother chance to buy the Stena Line book from ferry publications, if you have not got this book and enjoy following the ferry industry this is a great addition to any library
http://www.ferrypubs.co.uk/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=&P_ID=604
This is an excellent book. I cannot recommend it more highly to anybody interested in Stena Line. There are lots of high quality photographs and extracts from original company documentation and statistics.
Matt
Some more images of the new Stena Line purchase Norman Trader, laid up in Falmouth.
http://irishseashipping.com/photofeatures/irishcelticseas/kernow/normantrader060612/normantrader060612.htm
Likely to be repainted in blue Stena Line freight livery rather than white Stena Line livery as it will be used as a freight vessel.
So presumably she'll be the Stena Trader then?
QuoteSome more images of the new Stena Line purchase Norman Trader, laid up in Falmouth.
http://irishseashipping.com/photofeatures/irishcelticseas/kernow/normantrader060612/normantrader060612.htm
Likely to be repainted in blue Stena Line freight livery rather than white Stena Line livery as it will be used as a freight vessel.
I can't believe that Norman Trader was sold to Stena Line but what route will be?
Grift says it's for extra capacity on the Karlskrona-Gdynia route.
Confirmation if any were required that Stena do not intend to put the Voyager back into service.
Stena Metall press release in relation to Stena Voyager
http://stenarecycling.se/Nyheter-och-media/Nyhetsarkiv/130515-Stena-Recycling-atervinner-hoghastighetsfarja/
translation by google
STENA RECYCLING RECOVERS FAST FERRY
May 15, 2013
High speed ferry Stena Voyager has made his last journey and arrived in Landskrona yard for recycling. - To recover the large vessel Stena Voyager is an exciting and interesting project. Here we have the opportunity to leverage our experience and our efficient processes for the recovery of several types of material, says Staffan Persson, CEO of Stena Recycling.
The leading recycling company Stena Recycling has been contracted by Stena Line to recover the ferry HSS Stena Voyager. The vessel is 126 meters long and 40 meters wide. Recycling work will continue well into next year.
- We start at the top of waste stairs and look at what can be reused, such as kitchen equipment, lifeboats and furniture, said Ann-Charlotte Ramström, director of Stena Recycling branch in Karlskrona responsible for ship recycling.
The recovery of the ship will be in Landskrona at the dock and slipway. You have to have control of weight and balance throughout the dismantling. Several different types of material to be dealt with, like plastic, metal and hazardous waste.
- For us it is important to have control of the ship to be taken care of in an environmentally and security professional manner. We are therefore delighted to be able to hire our sister company Stena Recycling, says Joakim Kenndal, Communications Manager for Stena Line.
Stena Voyager all the various components are recycled as far as possible, thus contributing ship to cycle. Simply recycle the large amount of aluminum, instead of producing new, save up to 15 000 tons, the equivalent of 2,500 times around the world by car.
- The vessel consists mostly of aluminum. There is a metal that is energy intensive to produce. To recover the save as much as 95 percent of the amount of energy compared to producing new and the ship may be resurrected in the form of such parts or furniture, says Ann-Charlotte Ramström.
General Project Plan
Inventory with environmental declaration
Plan for the recycling process and the incremental dismantling
Secondary Market for some parts
Dismantling and recycling
Estimated project completed spring 2014
Facts HSS Stena Voyager
Built in Finland and launched in 1996
1500 passengers, 375 cars
Length 126.6 m, width 40 m, draft 4,8 m
Displacement 3,800 tons depending on depth
Speed [ch8203][ch8203]40 knots
Stena Lines annual report for 2012 has been released and is available to download here:
http://www.stena.com/Documents/StenaAB_Annual_Review2012.pdf
http://www.stena.com/en/sphere/About-stena/Pages/Annual-Report.aspx
Can't believe the stena voyager away what a shame sad to see it go happily got to be on the last crossing on her and last passenger to walk of deck comin Dwn to Belfast will always look empty now :( rip voyager
Voyager's AIS is back on again .
I hope someone will make pictures along the entire process. What does the AiS matter? Her faith is sealed. If any, the AIS of discovery might be interesting to keep track off.
Hi All,
Been reading these forums for a while and have only just signed up - haven't really had much to add!
After reading giftgrub's post about the Stena book, I purchased a copy. Have just received it - I agree with Matt73 - it is an excellent book, looking forward to reading it.
I'm from Belfast and have a particular interest in the Belfast-Cairnryan Route. I've taken may photos of the two Superfasts and until recently the Voyager was always worth taking a photograph of!
Enjoying reading everyone's posts on all things Shipping.
I suppose we've got to look forward to Stena demolishing the HSS berth and replacing it with a conventional berth for the Birkenhead ships.
......and they only built it about 3 years ago! ::)
Does anybody know if Stranraer has been dismantled yet?
Railway hasnt gone! For what i could see in the lorry the port was in darkness !
Wonder why the hss is in a rush back to holyhead today ! it did a maximum of 38knots to dublin ! 31knots so far back to holyhead !
Guessing its to do with wind
QuoteWonder why the hss is in a rush back to holyhead today ! it did a maximum of 38knots to dublin ! 31knots so far back to holyhead !
Guessing its to do with wind
Either that or they ran out of coffee , ships captain is quite fond of his coffee :P
Looks like Falmouth is fully booked, as the Norman Trader is going to the Baltic under tow (as her engines must be in a poor state after not being used).
She looks set to be renamed Stena Allegra. Well done to Stena for employing her, because it was such a shame to see her left to rot on the River Fal.
Stranraer:
The rail station is still operational but is several minutes of a walk from the town. There is/was a plan to relocate the station closer to the town. Rail traffic has plumetted since Stranraer ceased being a ferryport and it wouldn't be out of the question for the line between Stranraer and Girvan to ultimately (in the years ahead) end up closed as a direct result.
At present foot passengers are bussed in a dedicated coach from Port Ryan to Ayr railway station (Girvan railway station is closer but Ayr has a more frequent rail service to Glasgow).
The ideal, most cost-effective and user-friendly situation would be to bus passengers from Port Ryan into Stranraer railway station (10/15 minutes). In that way the cost of providing the connecting bus would be minimised, the future of the rail line secured and more people would be inclined to use the route. Efforts are being made to try and bring this about but without success to date:
http://www.saylsa.org.uk/saylsa_campaigns.html
Interestingly the line came into its own some weeks ago in the bad wintry weather - 2nd paragraph at:
http://www.saylsa.org.uk/saylsa_news.html
An utter shambles has been made of rail and sea links at many ports across Britain and Ireland - the only remaining integrated ferry-rail terminal this side is at Larne Harbour, with Dun Laoghaire being a close second as the station and terminal are just across the road from each other.
Holyhead still has a joint Rail-Sea Terminal, which is regularly used.
QuoteStranraer:
An utter shambles has been made of rail and sea links at many ports across Britain and Ireland - the only remaining integrated ferry-rail terminal this side is at Larne Harbour, with Dun Laoghaire being a close second as the station and terminal are just across the road from each other.
Rosslare?
rosslare is debatable really, the train station is no longer in the ferry terminal and the train schedule doesnt coincide too well with the ferry schedule
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Rosslare?
Where the ferry arrives just in time for you to watch the train leave....
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Rosslare?
Where the ferry arrives just in time for you to watch the train leave....
Irish Rail have confirmed that the evening departure from Rosslare to Connolly will now be deferred from next Tuesday June 4th to allow connecting foot passengers to travel onward by rail.
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Rosslare?
Where the ferry arrives just in time for you to watch the train leave....
Irish Rail have confirmed that the evening departure from Rosslare to Connolly will now be deferred from next Tuesday June 4th to allow connecting foot passengers to travel onward by rail.
And it only took them 116 years to match train departure times to ferry arrival times. :o
116 years!!! Mama mia!!
QuoteThere are no plans to replace Stena Europe at this time.
Myself being around Fishguard, i know that the stena europe is tired. I heard the other day that the back doors are struggling to close and that the middle one would not close (which brought delays). I also learnt that the ship engines are tired and that she is showing sings of rust (for example the helipad without paint on it is rusty). She also only have 3 of the 4 engines working.
Worst of all its been 3 months since her dry docking.
captain..thanks for the information. The last week has been a fiasco for the stena europe. I had friends on the 9pm sailing from rosslare on friday last (31st may). They were given no updates from stena staff. They left port after 1 am.
The stena staff were probably kept in the dark themselves by their management. >:(
Indeed Stena Europe has had a hard working life , and I dont think she has too much more to give , I suspect Stena Europe is now at the stage where she requires either a major mid-life refurbishment of her hull and mechanical units or to be retired to a softer life with another operator.
Below from www.shipspotting.com Stena Europe at Rosslare
i agree, it is time for a change for the stena europe, i was on her in december (i think) and there was a lot of rusting around the windows in the bar/restaurant on the inside, i dont think this is a major issue really but she is showing her age, fantastic ship but not suited to her current duties
expesssualy for a company which prides itself on the modernest of its fleet. I think she is eitheir needs a lot of matenance or to be transfered as she doesnt keep in line with the comany idea. 5 years ago i would have said she is fine. 2 and a half i would have said the same but in the last few months she has deteriated badly. Rust shows, she vibrates a lot and is a lot more nosy now.
Ive never been on the europe at all !
Maby i should be proud that i have never ??
But perhaps her door having technical problems etc isn't enough for stena to take her off for good !
Perhaps if she ever had an engine blowout whilst at sea that would be enough for stena to decide that its time for her to go ?? !!
(I really wouldn't want her to have a engine blow at sea but im just saying for an example!) :D :D
QuoteBut perhaps her door having technical problems etc isn't enough for stena to take her off for good !
Perhaps if she ever had an engine blowout whilst at sea that would be enough for stena to decide that its time for her to go ?? !!
(I really wouldn't want her to have a engine blow at sea but im just saying for an example!) :D :D
It has before so it could happen again
Ahh .. Didnt hear captain cadet .. I suppose it wasnt enough to get her off the route then ! lol
Stena Supefast vii (7) is delayed tonight by aprox 30mins on its 19:30 sailing !! Anyone know why ??
QuoteAhh .. Didnt hear captain cadet .. I suppose it wasnt enough to get her off the route then ! lol
Stena Supefast vii (7) is delayed tonight by aprox 30mins on its 19:30 sailing !! Anyone know why ??
She broke down within months of her transfer to the Irish Sea
The cruise ship Boudicca was scheduled to leave Belfast Port at 19:00hrs, delay possibly due to this, given that it would have been passing the Stena terminal around 19:30hrs?
Although why the 30 min delay and not a 10 min delay for example I'm not so sure. Boudicca departure could have bern delayed thus causing the delay in the Superfast departure.
probably not related to the Boudicca, but thought it was worth mentioning.
The latest addition to the Stena Line fleet the Stena Alegra has now changed its AIS to its new name from Norman Voyager.
It will enter service on July 8th.
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/ferry/press/pressreleaser/Increased%20capacity%20on%20Karlskrona-Gdynia/
The new ship is a Ropax vessel, Stena Alegra (former Norman Trader). The ship has a loading capacity of 1,950 lane meters, a deck height of 5.20 m and 114 cabin places for drivers. She has an open deck and takes Dangerous Cargo of stowage category A, B and C.
The introduction of the third ship give us the possibility to further upgrade the capacity on the route by adding additional roundtrips with Stena Alegra, when required by the market.
The first departure is planned from Gdynia the 8th of July at 23.59....
Stena Lagan has gone technical and is operating on one engine according to the announcements made on last nights crossing. Crossing time was about 12 hours and marine traffic had us making around 12 knots. Today's day sailing from Belfast was due to get in to Birkenhead about midnight tonight so the schedule is being disrupted heavily. There was a wooden crate on the car deck marked with the MAN logo and spare parts printed on it so I'm guessing this is engine parts. We had tug assistance at both ends as well tho the staff were fantastic onboard and provided a complimentary breakfast for all on board despite the ship being quite busy.
Thanks Steven, thats brilliant info, dont suppose you got a pic of the crate, would love to see that
QuoteThanks Steven, thats brilliant info, dont suppose you got a pic of the crate, would love to see that
Got one on my phne though the cars dash got on the way. Will upload in a bit. Tonights 22:30 from birkenhead is cancelled due to technical issues according to Stena
EDIT: Can't upload PIC as don't have enough posts yet.
Edit2: pic attached
(http://db.tt/cuKaUeFP)
love the pic, its amazing how many folk prob walked by the crate completely oblivious to what it was and what it was there for, thanks for the pic steven
Quotelove the pic, its amazing how many folk prob walked by the crate completely oblivious to what it was and what it was there for, thanks for the pic steven
I probably would have too but for the fact it was right in front of me when parking. It seems there where some issues with an engine at the beginning of last week as well. Wonder if this will be a one ship operation for more than just the one return crossing? IIRC Monday is the routes layup day with no day sailing so u would have thought if there was a known issue this could have been rectified before sailing. Anyways they will have the best part of a day to get it sorted before further cancellations. Wonder what alternatives people will be offered
Stena Lagan's issues have been traced to contaminated (poor quality) lube oil which has caused some technical issues for the on board engineering team who are going to be working around the clock stripping and replacing parts where necessary.
The Stena Alegra's new paintwork has finally been captured, here is the former Norman Trader all White.
http://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1268824&size=full
You guys are amazing! Thanks for all of this information.
I find out more on here than anywhere else!
Matt
Looks like Stena are going to loose another round trip tonight. According to their app tonights departure ex Birkenhead is cancelled. Bit of a nightmare scenario and sounds like its all down to some contaminated oil. Our sailing seemed quite busy as well with the main vehicle deck almost full and the other decks also in use so potentially a lot of business being inconvenienced. I wonder if there is any suitable replacement tonnage available for short term charter?
Yes .. from what i can see shes probably down on two engines ! she was limping down to birkenhead empty yesterday i think ! as they sailing she was suppost to be doin was cancelled ! was doin an average of 12knots
The Clipper Pennant is in dry dock in Birkenhead, it might appear as back up for the Lagan as soon as it is ready if this keeps up.
I have to say that both the Stena Lagan and Mersey have both had pretty exceptional mechanical performance on this route up till now. The route they operate is very demanding from a mechanical point of view as to keep to schedule requires them to maintain an average speed of a little over 20kts.
The design of these ships however, with only two main engines for propulsion, does mean that you have a significant drop off in performance if you are down an engine. Most other ferries operate on a four main engine set up which means you can be down one engine and typically be able to maintain your required service speed to keep to schedule.
Clipper Pennant would be a good stand in for freight, however at this time of year I would imagine the passenger market on the route is going to beginning to dominate so she won't be much help to relieve that issue. Also as it is a technical reason for cancellation it means that the new EU ferry passenger rights legislation applies, so this could start causing Stena a pretty penny in compensation claims.
QuoteThe Clipper Pennant is in dry dock in Birkenhead, it might appear as back up for the Lagan as soon as it is ready if this keeps up.
At least she could clear the unaccompanied freight as its pretty hard to divert that elsewhere! Hopefully it won't come to that and the engineering team will get the Lagan fixed up. Not great timing with the school holiday period around the corner and Stena trying to attract more tourist traffic to the route. Is Clipper Ranger still laid up as well?
can stena seek compensation from whom ever provided the dodgy oil?
Quotecan stena seek compensation from whom ever provided the dodgy oil?
probobly not as they will argue that they should filter the oil and check it before buying it
ah i see, valid point there, i just think along the lines of my dealings with cars, oil is a different story there
Cllipper Pennant is on charter to Stena RoRo since last year and if a suitable rate can be agreed (within the group) will help move freight, passengers can be offered alternative crossings and timings which should not put them out too much.
Better to shift the freight than leave it go to a competitor.
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Clipper-Pennant.aspx
No idea about oil and compensation, but would expect the supplier to be liable as they surely have to be responsible for the supply of quality product.
Clipper Ranger still with Seatruck, but could also appear if available.
QuoteQuotecan stena seek compensation from whom ever provided the dodgy oil?
probobly not as they will argue that they should filter the oil and check it before buying it
Not true, if Stena can prove that the oil was off spec they will have a claim against the oil company.
As a note when you buy oil for your car, do you filter it and check it before you put it into use - of course not.
The engine oil will have probably been delivered in bulk in a road tanker with the type of oil stated on the delivery note. The engine crew have no way of knowing if the oil is off spec until they start to use it and encounter problems.
nah id never think of filtering the oil before putting it in the car but the car is fitted with an oil filter, im guessing ship engines dont have such a thing built on
Yes marine engines do have filters in the lube oil systems. The oil is also purified which very basically means removes any impurities or water in the oil.
I think the problem here is that the oil has either been off spec (so not lubricating the engine components properly and causing excessive wear or seizure of components) or has been contaminated with an agent somewhere along the line that has taken it outside of spec. Might be difficult to prove where the oil came from unless there is a quantity of it unused somewhere but don't know how these things work in the maritime industry. I'm sure there is some sort of insurance covering this tho. However insurance isn't going to get back the hard won business potentially lost as a result of this.
Any idea what alternative passengers would be offered - I'm guessing Cairnryan or Holyhead. Pity the Feronia is no longer available as she could have slotted straight back into her old route as cover.
Perhaps a better solution would be to move the Nordica up and use a freight vessel down at Dublin, perhaps carrying passengers using the explorer and space booked on Irish Ferries? There is no real alternative IMO to Birkenhead-Belfast with neither Holyhead or Dublin anywhere near the original ports and Cairnryan being some 4hrs drive from Birkenhead.
UPDATE
Stena Lagan HAS sailed tonight but appears to still be running on one engine. She is currently making 8 knots according to AIS. According to a post on the IrishSeaShips group ferry check was advising passengers to check in 30mins early and that the crossing would take 11.5 hours due to technical problems. I wonder if there is a plan to run a round trip every other day until the problem is rectified? Would certainly reduce the need to bring in replacement capacity as passengers could be informed in advance of cancellation and offered a nights accommodation or an earlier sailing instead? Additionally would keep the freight moving which cannot use an alternative crossing.
EDIT: A quick check of this mornings AIS data indicates she was on the berth at approx 8:30 and crossed at around 12 knots until rounding the isle of man where her speed increased to 14 knots until the approach to Belfast lough
Ferrycheck saying that tonights sailing ex Birkenhead is cancelled so looks like Stena Lagan doing one round trip every other day.
I read today that major parts onboard the stena voyager have been/are being auctioned. Examples of equipment offered for sale are radar systems, life rafts, furniture, kitchen equipment and generators.
some footage here: http://www.sydsvenskan.se/webb-tv/tv-skrotas-och-saljs-pa-auktion/
QuoteI read today that major parts onboard the stena voyager have been/are being auctioned. Examples of equipment offered for sale are radar systems, life rafts, furniture, kitchen equipment and generators.
some footage here: http://www.sydsvenskan.se/webb-tv/tv-skrotas-och-saljs-pa-auktion/
You would have thought items like furniture could have been reused elsewhere in the fleet surely? Does anyone know if any of the structure has started to be "recycled" yet?
I just clocked the lagan doin a max of 23knots today enroute to birkenhead ! so shes back up and running on all engines ! happy days ! ..
Ps not stena related but im going on irish ferries ulysses this thursday ! will get some videos and photos ! .. its like my 200th time lol
QuoteI just clocked the lagan doin a max of 23knots today enroute to birkenhead ! so shes back up and running on all engines ! happy days ! ..
Ps not stena related but im going on irish ferries ulysses this thursday ! will get some videos and photos ! .. its like my 200th time lol
Think she went back to normal yesterday as schedule was back to normal IIRC. 23 knots isn't hanging about! Didnt think she went that fast in service tbh (fuel reasons)
A close up of the Stena Alegra refit now on Marine traffic.
http://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1275198&size=full
Always amazed at what a fresh coat of paint can achieve.
You would be suprised steven ! Ok i must admit it didnt say 23knots .. it said 22.8 which is basically 23knots but the lagan and mersey are capible of doin 25knots i think
IIRC its officially 24 but AFAIK the extra fuel needed to push the ship faster through the increased resistance from the water is greater than that saved through the reduced crossing time usually. Likewise in the right conditions going flat out she could probably go faster though this probably wouldnt do the engines much good (like redlining your car all the time). Around the 20-21 knot mark appears to be the norm from my past observations but winds, tides, etc are bound to play a factor as well I suppose (and a late departure perhaps). Perhaps they let her rip to check all is good ;D.
Good to see the Lagan returned to good health.
Stena going to Methanol with the Stena Germanica the first vessel to be modified in 2014.
http://www.portofgothenburg.com/en/News-desk/News-articles/Stena-Line-invests-in-methanol/
Stena Line is a firm believer in methanol as a marine fuel. If the technology works out as envisaged, 25 ferries will be adapted. "According to our calculations, methanol is a good alternative," says Per Stefenson, marine standards advisor at Stena Line.
In the lead-up to stricter emission regulations, many shipping lines are examining the fuel they use to run their vessels. Many will invest in liquefied natural gas, LNG, although Stena Line has opted for methanol for its current vessels.
Gothenburg-based shipping operator Stena Line is taking part together with the Port of Gothenburg, Stena Oil, Wärtsilä and the Port of Kil in the demonstration project Spireth and has proceeded with two methanol options. These involve using methanol directly in diesel engines and extracting what is termed DME, dimethyl ether, from the methanol. The ferry Stena Scanrail has been equipped with a transformation facility to operate the vessel's auxiliary engines using DME.
"Ultimately, we should not need to convert methanol to DME and instead we should be able to run the vessels on pure methanol produced from natural gas," states Per Stefenson.
Initially, it will involve rebuilding Stena Germanica. This will take place during 2014. If the trial proves successful, we will rebuild a further 24 vessels through to 2018 or 2020.
Why is it that you have been alone in this endeavour for such a long time? Are there no disadvantages?
"If the price of diesel falls, as is the case at present, then low-sulphur diesel is an even cheaper alternative. Even with this diesel, it would be possible to comply with the forthcoming sulphur directive and if it were cheaper, then alternative fuels would be less attractive. However, we regard methanol as a good, safe, long-term environmental investment," continues Per Stefenson.
"The industry is testing different sustainable courses that can be followed when it comes to alternative fuels. As a port, we are seeking to support different solutions. It's not certain that there is one fuel to suit all vessels and routes and there could very well be a palette of alternatives," states Magnus Kårestedt, Port of Gothenburg Chief Executive.
Photoshopped image of the Stena Alegra reveals the new look for the former Norman Trader.
Taken from Stena Lines Freight News - June
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/ferry/nljunipage1/
QuotePhotoshopped image of the Stena Alegra reveals the new look for the former Norman Trader.
Taken from Stena Lines Freight News - June
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/ferry/nljunipage1/
Looks more like mspaint was used rather than Photoshop. Stena cost cutting?
Thanks for the info tho
I also read with interest the post regarding methanol. Im not sure what the difference is in calorific value between marine diesel and methanol is but this could be a shrewd move on stena's part. If the entire shipping industry moves to LNG then the price is only going to go one way! I wonder why ethanol/bio ethanol isn't being tried though as I'm only aware of methanol being used in race car engines previously whereas ethanol is widely used in internal combustion engines.
Stena Line along with DFDS have expressed an interest in buying the remaining Scandlines operation.
Have Stena and DFDS endless cash reserves or what is going on? How are they financing everything at the moment?
DFDS more or less said a few weeks ago that they are going on a aquisition drive.
Don't know about cash reserves but I'm sure both have plenty of assets to borrow against. I suppose Stena line can also have one of the other company's in the sphere buy and then sell to them. Compared to many companies DFDS and Stena are probably pretty "safe" places for a bank to lend money to.
Stena group have many businesses, Stena line itself has over 9 billion sek. They also have plenty of assets if an issue was to arise which could be sold off. On the other hand DFDS ferries have recently damaged a berth and a vessel and its unknown what will happen.
QuoteStena group have many businesses, Stena line itself has over 9 billion sek. They also have plenty of assets if an issue was to arise which could be sold off. On the other hand DFDS ferries have recently damaged a berth and a vessel and its unknown what will happen.
Going off topic here guys but Captain Cadet you might be surprised to find out that DFDS are quite a large operation and the minor damage to one ferry and a part of one berth in Harwich is not going to have any impact on their long term operation.
for more info on DFDS you could start looking here:
http://www.dfdsseaways.co.uk/
http://www.ferry-site.dk/ferrycompany.php?Rid=20&lang=en
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/dfds_seaways.htm
Both Stena and DFDS seem to be able to access funding quite easily given their recent level of spending.
Any further DFDS related discussion should be in a separate thread.
Stena Alegra, ready to enter service tonight
http://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1285633&size=full
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/ferry/press/pressreleaser/Increased%20capacity%20on%20Karlskrona-Gdynia/
We appreciate your support so far. The traffic development on our route Karlskrona-Gdynia is very positive and our present tonnage is extremely well utilized.
There has been a growing demand for space during the last year and we are happy to announce that we are now introducing a third ship on this route in order to meet the increased market demand.
The new ship is a Ropax vessel, Stena Alegra (former Norman Trader). The ship has a loading capacity of 1,950 lane meters, a deck height of 5.20 m and 114 cabin places for drivers. She has an open deck and takes Dangerous Cargo of stowage category A, B and C.
The introduction of the third ship give us the possibility to further upgrade the capacity on the route by adding additional roundtrips with Stena Alegra, when required by the market.
The first departure is planned from Gdynia the 8th of July at 23.59
Giftgrub, you seem to have your finger on the pulse for Stena in the Irish Sea.
I've heard a rumour that Stena's bunker supplier is pulling out and that Stena are looking at bringing their own bunker barge to the Irish Sea. Do you know anything about this?
Slightly off topic but it seems to be the place to get stena answers. can anyone tell me why the funnel of the ex isle of inishfree now stena nautica was butchered in such a horrific manner? it looks all wrong, her sister still has it and it looks much more complete (less butchered)
Don't know the reason but wonder if it was the idea of the person who butchered the KB's funnel years back. Would have looked OK if it had been shortened to look like the Nordica's funnel for instance. I actually liked the old funnel!
The Stena Nauticas enhanced looks were caused by deadweight issues when it was converted to a double deck vessel, in order to reduce weight and increase stability the funnel was butchered and in my own opinion they created the ugliest vessel afloat. There was an image on the web of the funnel top left by a fence at the shipyard. (in images below). The KB suffered the same fate but had its funnel revamped later on.
Images of the Nautica's rebuild here:
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/extra_bilder/stena_nautica_1986_ombg_1.htm
The Stena Saga has its funnel spoiler removed for the same reason.
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/silvia_regina_1981.htm
KB images here:
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/extra_bilder/stena_baltica_1986_om.htm
Absolutely no idea about a change in bunkering suppliers, this would be commercially sensitive information that we should not discuss here anyway.
The latest addition to the Stena fleet set sail as planned on July 8th, first images of the vessel moving under its own power for a long time here:
http://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1288656&size=full
More images of the Stena Alegra arriving in Karlskrona for the first time here:
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=29017.msg261566#msg261566
Very interesting blog by one of the former crew from the HSS Stena Voyager.
Not a scam, link safe to click on:
http://mygulitypleasures.wordpress.com/2013/07/08/with-biggest-dignity-and-greatest-respect/
some nice images and information.
QuoteVery interesting blog by one of the former crew from the HSS Stena Voyager.
Not a scam, link safe to click on:
http://mygulitypleasures.wordpress.com/2013/07/08/with-biggest-dignity-and-greatest-respect/
some nice images and information.
Great stuff giftgrub, love the photo 'somebody missing this'!
Latest edition of Stena Line Freights shipping intelligence is available:
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/~/media/Files/Shipping%20Intelligence%20-%20July%202013.ashx
QuoteLatest edition of Stena Line Freights shipping intelligence is available:
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/~/media/Files/Shipping%20Intelligence%20-%20July%202013.ashx
Thanks giftgrub. The freight auctions are an interesting idea.
The Allegra looks well in white and red but would look even better with some branding. Going by the hull colours she is being marketed as a passenger ship but I would have thought when would be a step down from the Spirit/Vision also used on the route? :-/
The Stena Alegra will offer a very different on board experience from the Stena Vision/Spirit and I am sure that any passengers booking will be aware of this, due to the limited capacity there will be a lot less passenger traffic on the Alegra.
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Stena-Alegra.aspx
http://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1290094&size=full
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Stena-Flavia.aspx
http://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1255050&size=full
Interestingly the Stena Alegra and Flavia have both received a red hull at the waterline and partial Stena Line livery compared to the usual Stena "Making good Time" blue wave branding for baltic sea vessels.
QuoteI think its fair to say that the majority of people on this site are ferry enthusiasts and that everyone wants to see all ferry routes succeed and I also think it would be fair to say that we are all very positive fans of all the ferry companies in Ireland, however after studying the operation of the Rosslare-Fishguard route since it was taken over by Stena Line in the early 90's I think it would be fair to say, they haven't exactly done a great job with the route.
When Stena took over the route it was served by the Felicity and was the second most profitable route in the entire Stena/Sealink network, served by a luxurious cruise ferry with back up freight vessels, since then they replaced the Felicity with the Koningin Beatrix a vessel whilst quite opulent was unsuitable for the route with its low freight capacity, poor manoeuvring capability and also its high crewing requirements (ironically when rebuilt while Stena Baltic converted to double deck loading and the thrusters were upgraded), this was then replaced in 2002 by the Stena Europe which had quite a revamp in the passenger areas before its introduction.
Since the introduction of the Stena Europe it has been maintained on the route with further passenger area upgrade but now in obviously in need of replacement.
Also since Stena took over the level of investment in Fishguard has been very limited, there is no modern wide linkspan to allow rapid discharge from the stern which even the much maligned Rosslare Harbour can offer. This restricts the type of vessel that can be deployed to cover /replace the Stena Europe.
It does appear that Stena Line need to either invest in the route which is a very viable proposition as fresh tonnage will offer an improved passenger experience which they can market on its newness alone, perhaps a major timetable shake up, allowing rail/sail connections, bring back day trips, 48 hr weekend breaks, shopping expeditions to Cardiff etc.
From my own very limited knowledge this is what I think the Rosslare route requires:
New Linkspan – Fishguard – if the proposed Conygar investment ever happens it will be too late, they need to act now to improve the route, and waiting 2/3 years will not work.
New vessel – possibly something like Stena Lagan/Mersey – cost effective, modern comfortable, fuel efficient, fast. Can never see them putting a newbuild on the route.
Possible revised timetable – maybe swap times with Irish Ferries – Rosslare could prosper with alternate crossing times throughout the day improving customer choice and flexibility.
New local marketing – Day trips/48 hr tickets/ shopping trips/ non landing cruises etc
Refit Period: always provide cover through replacement vessel
Maximise the use of the great staff they have and the huge amount of goodwill that they have built up over the years.
With a new vessel with greater freight capacity, increases viability of route, will migrate some freight traffic out of Dublin to Rosslare, surely all freight does not need to go out of Dublin.
Just in case there is any misconception I actually love travelling on the Stena Europe as I find the massive amount of uncluttered outside deck space to be great, I find the passenger areas very nicely laid out and comfortable, the Stena Plus is fabulous (but it is really any better than what was there before the refit lost a little bit of charm) the bar area is huge and can take quite a lot of passengers when watching a match. plenty of space for people to relax, and finally the crew are always very nice and accommodating. Biggest negative is the stairwells and the queue for the car decks when docking.
Hi I am new to this so hope I get it right....I hear that Stena are running down the Fishguard to Rosslare service. They have got a deal with Conygar/stena and set up a joint venture company to build a Marina there. Conygar have planning permission to do the lorry park at Scleddau, a few miles outside of Goodwick, up the hill but they have now not taken up the grant of £1.3million for this as they are out of time.
I gather the Europe has only one stabiliser working...and port staff have been told that it is only routine maintenance for the next few years. If they do go ahead and construct this massive 19acre development platform which is going to cost them millions because they have to buy the sea bed from the Crown Estates who have just upped the price it will be interesting to see whether or not that amount of capital investment will be worth it. Sorry to say but I can see them pulling out of here altogether as they face stiff competition from Irish Ferries at half the price. The road to Fishguard A40is a nightmare...every tractor, caravan you can imagine to make the journey time longer....so its easier to turn left off the A40 and head for Pembroke Dock...I see the Welsh Gov is putting a massive amount of money into upgrading the A477 is it? from St Clears round about to Pembroke Dock...which will make Irish Ferries an even better deal. I gather that Stena wanted out of here about 8 years ago but couldnt get into Pembroke!!...that says it all doesnt it....It would be a shame to see this service go...but they dont seem to be committed...yet they are part of the old Fishguard and Rosslare Railway and Harbour company which still exisits. They own half the port in Fishguard and half in Rosslare the rest is owned by private capital in shares and the Railways UK and Irish Rail...so they could if they wanted to sort all this out quite easily...Quite agree change the time table, do some shopping trips...to Cork to Dublin and viv to Cardiff. But I personally think they are going to lease off the port to bring in Bio Mass and other into new Power Stations planned in West Wales shortly...interesting to see what happens....
thanks for that, i hope they dont pull out it would make rosslare a lot less photogenic if they did
It must be kept in mind that Rosslare - Fishguard is a route that Stena Line inherited during its takeover of Sealink , while the route was profitable for many years , the route does not fit with Stena's travel concept and never did by virtue of the fact that there is no major population center at either end of the route , all other Stena routes are connected to a major population center at one end or both.
Now that the Rosslare - Fishguard service has declined to the point that it operates Stena's oldest (cheapest) ship the writing does appear to be on the wall for that route , unless something dramatic happens I can see Stena shutting down that route at the first viable opportunity.
If Stena did pull out of Rosslare I wonder could they be tempted into Cork - Bristol , could be a nice retirement route for Stena Saga when she gets replaced by new tonnage :P
was there ever any further talk of the cork spain route? i cant see stena going for it but it'd be interesting
Quotewas there ever any further talk of the cork spain route? i cant see stena going for it but it'd be interesting
Yes , this was the subject to a high powered meeting in Dublin last week with an unnamed operator , not much being said publicaly about how they got on.
All Stena seem to be interested in is Belfast & the Superfasts??
Stena are also interested in the Dublin - Holyhead route and have invested heavily in it in recent years , however it does seem they are struggling to decide what to do with Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead.
QuoteIt must be kept in mind that Rosslare - Fishguard is a route that Stena Line inherited during its takeover of Sealink , while the route was profitable for many years , the route does not fit with Stena's travel concept and never did by virtue of the fact that there is no major population center at either end of the route , all other Stena routes are connected to a major population center at one end or both.
Now that the Rosslare - Fishguard service has declined to the point that it operates Stena's oldest (cheapest) ship the writing does appear to be on the wall for that route , unless something dramatic happens I can see Stena shutting down that route at the first viable opportunity.
If Stena did pull out of Rosslare I wonder could they be tempted into Cork - Bristol , could be a nice retirement route for Stena Saga when she gets replaced by new tonnage :P
This continues to be a fascinating thread and thanks to all who have contributed.
I too think it's sad that the route has been so neglected, both in terms of the tonnage and the port infrastacture.
Where has the Bristol-Cork route come from? That's an incredible distance, over double the Fishguard-Rosslare route I'd say. With the Stena Europe? I can't see that one working to be honest. Even with the two big population centres, people would just opt for Pembroke-Rosslare again.
As for closing Fishguard down, who would have thought that the Stranraer would have closed? However, they did it and have made Belfast pay. I see no reason why they couldn't take a similar course of action if they felt there was still a market for services on the southern corridor.
As for Cork-Spain, if there is market and they can make it pay, I'm sure they would give it a go. However, I recall reading in the Stena Line history book that it's unlikely they would try to compete with Brittany Ferries on the Western Channel.
Interesting times.
Matt
In what way are they struggling with Holyhead ? Is it solely the hss explorer or is it the location/ passenger numbers.
I'm happy to be able to travel on board the explorer on the 3rd of August. First time on an hss since the discovery stopped in holland!
I think what was meant is the route to Dun Laoghaire as opposed to Dublin. Holyhead itself isn't an issue as all routes terminate there. At one time, the berthing charges at Dun Laoghaire was much more expensive than at Dublin, and if it wasn't for the fact that the dedicated fast-craft berth was located there, the whole shebang may have moved to the capital city some years ago. Couple that with the high running cost of the HSS and there is plenty cause for concern.
However whilst Stena bleat on about their costly HSS concept, both Irish Ferries and IOM Steam packet happily run their fast crafts without it appears, any problems whatsoever.
The fatal flaw with Stena's ill fated HSS concept is the need to fuel the vessel with high grade kerosene as opposed to marine Diesel, this means that even at the reduced speed of 26 knots the HSS is still a very expensive vessel to operate, (though a lot cheaper than running it at full speed) though its passenger and vehicle capacity allows them to run the vessel at breakeven or a small profit with seasonal operation.
It is likely that the HSS will remain on the Dun Laoghaire route for the next few years as it allows Stena to offer a fast ferry option for a relatively small additional outlay (considering that the vessel and berths already exist), they have plenty of spare parts from the Stena Voyager and combined with flexible on board crew it keeps the operation cost efficient.
I just wish Stena would show the same level of care to the Stena Europe that they have lavished on the rest of the Irish sea fleet in the last few years, I know it wont happen but as its next refit is going to be a big one (technically) it would be nice to see them lavish some TLC on the bodywork and maybe add a few extra touches like the private suites etc.
i know that they filmed some one at the port of fishguard last year for undercover boss, it was to be shown on C4 but the day before they were going to show it stena had it taken out.
mmm wonder why that was!!!!
RE: Fishguard being the second most profitable route when Stena took over - the Sealink operation was hemorrhaging cash from what I can see at the time of takeover so while this route was making more money than others, this could be due to the route being run better than others rather than having better actual passenger and freight potential. I havent seen the detailed numbers but things have changed a lot from the early 90's and even from the start of the new millennium so what was making money may not necessarily be able to now. With low fare airlines and people preferring to go "abroad" rather than holiday in the UK or Ireland this could also have had a very heavy impact on the route during summer. Likewise with modern logistics practices items tend to be consolidated at regional or national distribution centres before shipping rather than sent from supplier to customer direct - the obvious place to put these DC's is near the major population centres and main ports. Going by google maps calculations you can drive from Cork to Dublin as quick as Cork to Rosslare which is another factor against Rosslare IMHO.
Now for some numbers. The only data I have to hand is the shippax figures for January (from the free copy on their site of CFI).
Holyhead to Dublin
Pax: 40090
Cars: 10500
Buses: 114
Trailers: 15959
Fishguard to Rosslare
Pax: 13,176
Cars: 3881
Buses: 11
Trailers: 2272
Even accounting for Rosslare only having a single ship operation the numbers are pretty different! Unfortunately the data I have doesnt include irish ferries as they publish quarterly but what I can say is Rosslare - Fishguard has the lowest numbers on every measure for cross irish sea passenger services (excluding Irish Ferries due to the above reasons, HH - DunLaoghaire and P&O's liverpool service which is mainly operated by freighters). However there have been increases vs the previous year which is at least one positive for the route. With such low numbers of trailers I find it hard to see how the service is paying for itself as its no secret that freight is where operators are making their money (just look at the number of ro-paxes in operation and dedicated freight routes compared to 10 or 20 years ago). Back in 1992 (figures from pocket guide '93) Fishguard to Rosslare had the 3rd highest passenger and car numbers (826901 and 172990) of any Irish Sea crossing and carried only approx 3000 less trailers for the year than the then Holyhead to Dun Laoghaire route. Unfortunately I dont have access to figures for the whole of last year but the above surely points to why there has been a lack of investment in the route.
Its hard to see how a ropax such as the Vissentini's would work on the route with such low freight figures. Personally I think a smaller ferry would be more suited to the route (more economical and more suited to the actual carryings - Ben-My-Cree sized???). Unfortunately with numbers like the above its hard to see how new tonnage could ever be justified, and likewise any significant second hand ship is going to go elsewhere where more money can be made. The one ship that springs to mind as a possibility is the Stena Nautica (the former Isle of Innisfree) which runs on a similar length route if she where to become too small for her present route or surplus to requirements.
As we are starting to move off topic please discuss this post in the Stena Europe thread over in the discussion forum (http://www.irish-ferries-enthusiasts.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1370079835/142#142)
Some nice images of the Stena Alegra in action:
http://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1297523&size=full
http://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1297527&size=full
QuoteQuoteVery interesting blog by one of the former crew from the HSS Stena Voyager.
Not a scam, link safe to click on:
http://mygulitypleasures.wordpress.com/2013/07/08/with-biggest-dignity-and-greatest-respect/
some nice images and information.
Great stuff giftgrub, love the photo 'somebody missing this'!
That makes me feel sad :( Ive been on the voyager once and too see it go is just bad :'( which hss was operating on the holyhead route in 2000/2001 ? was it the explorer just like today ?? ive only been on the voyager and the explorer once and too see the voyager go is terrible .. on the up side is though that since ive been on the explorer and its still in service :)
HSS Stena Explorer has always run the Holyhead - Dun Laoghaire route since 1996 when she was new. On occasion, Stena Voyager has depp'ed for her during refit periods, but that's all. I'm not sure if the Explorer ever ran the route on the northern corridor, but she was a regular visitor to Belfast for overhaul. On a couple of occasions, Belfast was the venue for a rare meeting of all three HSS craft when Stena Explorer arrived for refit, as Stena Voyager was on her usual duty and Stena Discovery was either finishing her time in Drydock or later, on her lay-up.
I have seen a picture of this rare meeting, but unfortunately don't know who owns it or where to view it. Flickr may be a good place to start.
Nice video taken onboard the Stena Flavia, obviously been painted but no interior modifications carried out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khzjJD_MNzI
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You would have to wonder how solid the allocations of some of Stena's fleet is , Stena Flavia and Stena Allegra among others have recieved no external Stena Line branding and have not been Stenaised internally , they have the feel of temporary allocations.
Quite possible there will be a further shake up in the Baltic sea services as they decide what do with the fleet, surprised the Flavia did not even get the funnel painted when it was in dock, the Alegra is probably a wait and see what happens, if it is successful then a bigger vesel might be needed, however the two Kiel based ships are expected to transfer to Karlskrona in the near future, which will bring a large increase in freight capacity.
The next few years are going to be very interesting as a major shake up in the fleet is coming, it will be interesting to see what will happen and I wonder will they deploy the Norman Voyager and Norman Asturias in the Stena Fleet or charter them out to another operator ?
From the video the flavia looks very similar to the way the Lagan and Mersey where pre-refurbishment - the refurb really transformed them so would be a shame if she where to remain as is. With the Kiel pair due to move there is bound to be some 'cascading' which in turn may lead to large changes across the network (or not). Perhaps the ultimate role of the Flavia and Allegra is yet to be decided - from what I can gather they where purchased at a very attractive price. A lot probably depends on future traffic trends and demand on the charter market (either for these vessels or for vessels they could replace in the Stena fleet) as well as what vessels the company decide are no longer wanted/needed.
I noted the Stena Performer arriving in Belfast over an hour late on Saturday meaning she came in just before Superfast VII and Stena Mersey. Normally the Mersey follows the Superfast in but it was a case of Superfast following the Performer with the Mersey following further behind than usual (perhaps to allow performer time to berth?)
Very nice Stena RORO video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPdraW9gGT8&feature=player_detailpage
[media width=600]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPdraW9gGT8&[/media]
Can somebody please remind me which ships Stena operate on the Harwich and Immingham-Esberg routes please. If memory serves, this are joint/pooling operations with DFDS, but I'm not sure.
Thanks.
Matt
Does anyone have any photographs of the Stena Britannica and/or Hollandica doing the 180 turn off Harwich prior to berthing? I know taking photos there is difficult, but it would be great to see any that forum members may have.
Thanks.
Matt
Stena RoRo's MV Blue Puttees which sails for Marine Atlantic has been involved in an incident in Port aux Basques. Luckily no one was injured.
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2013-07-31/article-3334101/UPDATE%3A-No-injuries-in-ferry-accident,-says-Marine-Atlantic/1
http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2013-07-31/photo-3334101/UPDATE%3A-MV-Blue-Puttees-returns-to-dock/1
Video of the Blue Puttes bow being repaired in dry dock in Halifax here:
http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/Canada/NL/Featured/ID/2399604181/
http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/divers-confirm-damage-to-bow-of-marine-atlantic-ferry-grounded-last-week-1.1399464
The ship is expected to be out of service until August 24th.
Here is how the Stena Trader became Blue Puttes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmQtTLPUGz0
[media width=600]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmQtTLPUGz0&feature=player_detailpage[/media]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdldyPyeg54
[media width=600]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdldyPyeg54[/media]
Wonder will we ever see these vessels in Europe again ?
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Interestingly the Stena Alegra and Flavia have both received a red hull at the waterline and partial Stena Line livery compared to the usual Stena "Making good Time" blue wave branding for baltic sea vessels.
Worth remembering that the Stena Flavia and the Stena Alegra don't belong to Stena Line, they are both owned and operated by Stena RoRo, on charter to Stena Line.
QuoteQuote
Interestingly the Stena Alegra and Flavia have both received a red hull at the waterline and partial Stena Line livery compared to the usual Stena "Making good Time" blue wave branding for baltic sea vessels.
Worth remembering that the Stena Flavia and the Stena Alegra don't belong to Stena Line, they are both owned and operated by Stena RoRo, on charter to Stena Line.
The fact that the vessels are chartered would normally have no bearing on the colour scheme for the vessels, they have the Superfast & Seatruck twins on charter for the North Channel but they have been given a full Stena Line paint job, the fact that the Allegra and Flavia have been partially painted may mean they are not expected to remain on the routes for the future, or there are other plans for these vessels.
The Stena Germanica was involved in a collision in Gothenburg today as a smaller passenger ferry lost control and hit the stern of the Germanica.
http://www.gp.se/nyheter/goteborg/1.1897235-alvsnabben-korde-in-i-stenafarja
Nice video on the HSS Voyager at the bottom of the page on the above link also.
One of my old mates used to have 2 dogs, a Terrier and a Great Dane. the terrier used to take great delight in trying to annoy the Great Dane, but was so small comparatively that the big dog didn't even know the other was there. This is what todays incident reminds me of.
Regarding the HSS video, I thought everything was supposed to have been stripped out of the Voyager in Belfast? The internals still look complete. The video is even showing lifejackets still aboard.
QuoteOne of my old mates used to have 2 dogs, a Terrier and a Great Dane. the terrier used to take great delight in trying to annoy the Great Dane, but was so small comparatively that the big dog didn't even know the other was there. This is what todays incident reminds me of.
i wanted to say this but could never word it in such an awesome fashion
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Regarding the HSS video, I thought everything was supposed to have been stripped out of the Voyager in Belfast? The internals still look complete. The video is even showing lifejackets still aboard.
My understanding was it was the mechanical components that where removed in Belfast such as the engines. Probably so they can keep explorer running.
Stena RoRo have found work for the Clipper Pennant, currently heading for Rostock, Germany. Possibly to provide cover for a refit of one of the Stena/Scandlines fleet ?
QuoteQuoteQuote
Interestingly the Stena Alegra and Flavia have both received a red hull at the waterline and partial Stena Line livery compared to the usual Stena "Making good Time" blue wave branding for baltic sea vessels.
Worth remembering that the Stena Flavia and the Stena Alegra don't belong to Stena Line, they are both owned and operated by Stena RoRo, on charter to Stena Line.
The fact that the vessels are chartered would normally have no bearing on the colour scheme for the vessels, they have the Superfast & Seatruck twins on charter for the North Channel but they have been given a full Stena Line paint job, the fact that the Allegra and Flavia have been partially painted may mean they are not expected to remain on the routes for the future, or there are other plans for these vessels.
The Stena Germanica was involved in a collision in Gothenburg today as a smaller passenger ferry lost control and hit the stern of the Germanica.
Nice video on the HSS Voyager at the bottom of the page on the above link also.
Sorry, I should have went further on the above. Stena Alegra and Stena Flavia are on a time charter to Stena Line. The other 4 vessels you mention (Superfasts and Precision/Performer) are on bareboat charters. Type of charter andby whom these vessels are managed is why theyarent in the same livery.
Nice video of the Stena Alegra arriving in Gdynia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjp7xBxi7AY&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLFEDCD9F30AE8E2C9
[media width=600]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjp7xBxi7AY&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLFEDCD9F30AE8E2C9[/media]
Hi,
I am new this this forum lark. A quick intro,I work in Rosslare Europort and have seen many changes over the last 20 years and am really wondering if anyone on here can add to speculation of a big announcement from Stena Line in September?
QuoteHi,
I am new this this forum lark. A quick intro,I work in Rosslare Europort and have seen many changes over the last 20 years and am really wondering if anyone on here can add to speculation of a big announcement from Stena Line in September?
Big announcement in September? Didn't even know their was one to be honest!
We haven't heared a thing but if their is one it will be about the stena Europe as she has had issues recently! Ill try to get some more details!
I am not aware of any major announcement from Stena Line regarding Irish Sea operations. My guess is any announcement is in relation to its Baltic operation.
i have heared that some of the quay wall guys are going to lose there jobs, also they are either going to change the times of the stena europe or it`s going and they are getting a freight only ship for the winter and bring a passenger ship in for the summer.
The other one that i have heared is that the stena europe is going to be taken over by northen marine management and crewed by polish workers
Quotei have heared that some of the quay wall guys are going to lose there jobs, also they are either going to change the times of the stena europe or it`s going and they are getting a freight only ship for the winter and bring a passenger ship in for the summer.
The other one that i have heared is that the stena europe is going to be taken over by northen marine management and crewed by polish workers
Really?
Wasn't execting that! Sad day for the staff and for stena Europe
But how have I managed to book a ticket to Ireland on the stena as a passenger not freight?
QuoteBut how have I managed to book a ticket to Ireland on the stena as a passenger not freight?
When a company makes a major announcement there are obviously lot of people who have a lot of questions. If they removed the possibility of booking from the engine all those questions would come before the implications and answers were ready. The cost of transferring you to an alternative ferry if it were to happen would be insignificant compared to all the other costs involved.
Going off topic here guys, - Stena Line Fleet Movements Thread -
I Have no idea what the announcement is expected to be but there has already been some discussion about a freight vessel replacing the Europe for the Winter, this will not be happening as the route carries more passengers than freight and would require a passenger vessel for the summer months, hardly cutting costs to have a passenger vessel laid up for the winter. If the Europe is to be replaced it will be by a vessel with passenger/frieght capability.
Whatever the news, it has already been stated by Stena Line that they are cutting costs across their operations with shore based jobs being cut and greater flexibility of the on board work force to be utilized.
Until the announcement is actually made (if one is to be made), please remember that the speculation is about real people and their jobs in real company, unless we know something for definite it is unwise to discuss these issues
QuoteQuoteBut how have I managed to book a ticket to Ireland on the stena as a passenger not freight?
When a company makes a major announcement there are obviously lot of people who have a lot of questions. If they removed the possibility of booking from the engine all those questions would come before the implications and answers were ready. The cost of transferring you to an alternative ferry if it were to happen would be insignificant compared to all the other costs involved.
Exactly, that's the reality I'm afraid but let's wait and see?
QuoteStena RoRo have found work for the Clipper Pennant, currently heading for Rostock, Germany. Possibly to provide cover for a refit of one of the Stena/Scandlines fleet ?
The Clipper Pennant has been chartered out to Bluewater shipping for a four month period to assist in the construction of a windfarm.
QuoteGoing off topic here guys, - Stena Line Fleet Movements Thread -
I Have no idea what the announcement is expected to be but there has already been some discussion about a freight vessel replacing the Europe for the Winter, this will not be happening as the route carries more passengers than freight and would require a passenger vessel for the summer months, hardly cutting costs to have a passenger vessel laid up for the winter. If the Europe is to be replaced it will be by a vessel with passenger/frieght capability.
Whatever the news, it has already been stated by Stena Line that they are cutting costs across their operations with shore based jobs being cut and greater flexibility of the on board work force to be utilized.
Until the announcement is actually made (if one is to be made), please remember that the speculation is about real people and their jobs in real company, unless we know something for definite it is unwise to discuss these issues
Ok as long as I can get to Ireland but good point about the harbour.
I just hope she'll get replace with a moderner ferry.
well said will not talk about this anymore
very valid point, to be honest all the posts regarding the future of europe and stena itself are merely speculation adding to hype, while itll make a thread more interesting it can also make a thread completely pointless too
Stena's New Blue Ocean could do with some fresh paint !
http://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1345509&size=full
http://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1215832&size=full
beautiful ship all the same, you know i never saw this one before
New Blue Ocean sails for Stena Daea Line on the Sokcho - Vladivostock/Zarubino route, the service has been in operation since March 2013.
http://stenadaea.com/eng/main.asp
http://stenadaea.com/eng/newblueocean/ship_info.asp
http://www.worldcargonews.com/htm/w20130305.550680.htm
Stena Daea Line is a joint venture between Stena International Freight and Daea and sails from South Korea to Russia.
More information here along with some photoshopped images of an Irish Sea Vessel
http://www.stena.com/en/our-business/Pages/stena-international-freight.aspx
any more details on the ship itself, loved seeing the plans, really want to know more about her origins now, im usually familiar with ferries but this one is new to me (although for some reason she looks quite familiar)
Originally a Japanese ferry
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/new_orion_1989.htm
http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/de/shipdetails.aspx?MMSI=372875000
i cant help but see the resemblance between her and the Thomas Aquinas which is in the news for all the wrong reasons
Thought the same, quite possibly from the same family of ships, looks very similar at front with different bridge wings treatment and funnels etc are different, however hull form is nearly identical. No expert on the Japanese market vessels though, always very difficult to tell them apart.
agreed, prob the same family or maybe over there they just mass produce along the same design lines
The Stena Alegra has not been upgraded inside as these images on the Stena Line PL website show, the vessel as yet to receive any of the current Stena on board branding.
http://www.stenaline.pl/en/ferries/our-ships/stena-alegra/onboard/
Obviously as the vessel is owned and operated by Stena RoRo this situation may change depending on how it settles into the route and Stena's future intentions for the vessel.
The Stena Alegra has been involved in some technical shenanigans in Gydnia and has been prevented from sailing until they are put right, not really surprised given how long the vessel was laid up, would be surprised if this was the first inspection also.
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=105&artikel=5650120
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article17499755.ab
Shouldn't really have these issues with a passenger carrying ferry though.
Due to the technical issues with the Stena Alegra it seems Stena are going to have a fleet wide check to make sure all systems are as they should be.
http://www.gp.se/ekonomi/1.2053474-stena-line-ser-over-alla-fartyg
Lets hope everything is ok with Adventurer & Nordica as I will be sailing on them next week!
I would be fairly certain you wont have any issues, happy travelling
In terms of HSS explorer; she's done until X-mas, laid up in Holyhaed? does anyone know whether she is due for a refit later in 2014?
ive heard no mention of a refit for her as yet although i would assume at some point in 2014 she'll go through the anual thing
QuoteI would be fairly certain you wont have any issues, happy travelling
Thank you giftgrub
QuoteIn terms of HSS explorer; she's done until X-mas, laid up in Holyhaed? does anyone know whether she is due for a refit later in 2014?
I think she was in Harland and Wolff in December 2012 for some work but has to be looked at every couple of years??
Has any 1 seen recent pictures of the hss voyager still think it a disgrace scrapping it she just like Concorde of the sea or the space shuttle >:(
QuoteIn terms of HSS explorer; she's done until X-mas, laid up in Holyhaed? does anyone know whether she is due for a refit later in 2014?
She is sorted and certified until the end of 2014 so shouldn't need a refit this year/next season. There are cosmetic bits to be done and some furniture replacement but that will be done while she is laid up in Holyhead before her Christmas season (Dec 20th to Jan 5th) and her April to September summer season.
Pete
Interestingly, the Stena Alegra is on the NMM management system, not Stena Line's. I'd be suprised if she lasts on this charter.
Well after being laid up for so long, I think we probably need to forgive her for her current teething troubles. Hopefully Stena will give her a proper internal and external refit over the winter months, just like the Belfast twins.
Certainly things will be happening to all od the Stena owned Viscenti [sic] vessels over the next few months.
Some jobs cuts coming for the port of Holyhead:
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/business-news/ferry-firm-stena-line-axe-6086344
FERRY firm Stena Line are set to axe 21 jobs in Holyhead as part of a major shake-up.
Stena Line announced a review across the company's Europe-wide operations in April with up to 50 jobs under threat at Holyhead and Fishguard.
Today they confirmed 21 workers faced redundancy and a consultation with staff and unions has started.
It is understood 12 are in port handling operations and nine in finance.
Services from Holyhead to Dublin and Dun Laoghaire are not expected to be affected.
The cuts were triggered because Stena Line's European ferry business has been operating at a financial loss.
A Stena Line spokesman said: "Our ferry operations have been losing money for a number of years which is clearly not a sustainable position. Following a comprehensive review of our European operations, we have identified a number of areas in which we need to become more efficient and reduce our costs.
"Stena Line has now entered a period of discussions with staff and union representatives. In Holyhead, approximately 21 positions are expected to be at a risk of redundancy under the Company proposals. However, until detailed consultation is completed Stena Line will not be in a position to clarify the actual number of job losses.
"This decision is a necessary one for the long term future of Stena Line and we do not expect service levels to be impacted by the proposed changes."
Anglesey MP Albert Owen said: "While the Stena announcement is part of a UK fleet re-structuring the proposed 21 job losses would have a big impact on the local economy at a time of economic stagnation.
"Holyhead is among the best performing ports in the UK Stena fleet and it should be treated as such, and not just as part of a European-wide restructuring exercise.
"The Stena shore side staff and those onboard its ships have contributed to strong performances on the Holyhead/Irish routes.
"It is time for Stena Line to look to the future and enhance the Port of Holyhead to maximise the potential of the energy sector and increasing cruise sector as well as its ferry business.
"Strategically Holyhead is well placed to be the major port on the Western seaboard of Britain – and central to Irish Sea developments.
"This will bring huge financial benefits and if Stena Line does not grasp this then other ports will. I have raised this with senior managers and the Secretary of State for Wales.
"Over the coming weeks I will be continuing to make the case and meeting with unions/managers to limit the impact of this announcement and encouraging planning for the future to bring benefits to the Port and the region."
One of the largest privately-owned shipping companies in the world, Swedish-based Stena Line run ferries along several routes in the Irish Sea, North Sea and Scandinavia.
As part of its Anglesey operations, the company runs three vessels between Holyhead and the Irish Republic.
Quick query on the location and workloads of two former Stena Dun Laoghaire vessels:
Stena Lynx I (I think it became Mandarin after a while?). I know she was in Pusan some years ago but no idea if she is still working.
Stena Lynx III (Sunflower II then Orange). Saw a picture of her painted into a new livery but no idea if she ever went into service.
Mandarin in particular must be nearly 20 years old at this stage - would be interested to see if she is still operational.
Pete
Jaume I (Lynx I) is still in service on the CIUDADELA/ALCUDIA route
Orange I (Lynx III) appears to still be in service but im not sure exactly where but its Jeju to somewhere i believe
I've heard from a friend of a friend (always the most reliable source of information ;D) that the Stena Nordica has been told she will be moving to the Rosslare / Fishguard run and a similar size vessel to the Stena Adventurer will replace the Nordica.
No time scale was mentioned but my friend got the impression it would be sooner rather than later.
she has been here before, i wonder did she make a good impression, id like to see her here but id also miss the europe, shes become like part of the harbour at this stage
QuoteI've heard from a friend of a friend (always the most reliable source of information ;D) that the Stena Nordica has been told she will be moving to the Rosslare / Fishguard run and a similar size vessel to the Stena Adventurer will replace the Nordica.
No time scale was mentioned but my friend got the impression it would be sooner rather than later.
Can't imagine the Nordica is anywhere near big enough to handle the summer traffic on the summer corridor on her own, so I'd take that rumour with a very big pinch of salt.
A larger vessel to replace the Nordica on Dublin / Holyhead would suggest they might pull the Explorer, as both her summertime sailings are about 90mins before and 90 minutes after a current Nordica sailing. They would have to be confident that the sailing public prefers a reliable large vessel to the IF Dublin Swift.
I have also heared that rumor a few times before so it could be possible. Athough this is a funny rumor, stena may have another smaller boat during the summer so when one in rosslare, the others in Fishguard and so on. I know it's odd so take it with a pinch of salt
As I've just mentioned in another post, these forums are all about speculation, rumours and half truths but I've heard this a couple of times now and the latest is from someone who knows someone (without mentioning where) and they are pretty confident it will happen.
Watch this space in the next 12 months. 8-)
As for the Nordica not handling the summer traffic, why have a big ship sailing around empty for most of the year where it's big PC is only needed for a few weeks every year where as a smaller ship with reduced running costs could be nearly full or full all of the year. A smaller ship will also use less fuel which is a major expense for any shipping company at the moment. As keeps being posted on here the Fishguard traffic is at a low so why have a big ship on that run.
So when do you expect the nortica replacing stena Europe?
QuoteSo when do you expect the nortica replacing stena Europe?
As I said above, no definitive time scale was mentioned but it was thought that it would be happening within the next 12 months.
MAKman I have heard this before as well. Now with the Explorer gone off the route the Nordica is operating a standby list most days for passengers due to her low PC. As well with Stena having so many large companies(boots, B&Q, Poundworld, Maxi & others) drop trailers work for all of the Irish Sea routes. I guessing that a lot of cheap contracted trailers have to be shipped on the Adventurer at night losing them money that they could get a higher rate at night from artic's over these drops. Form what I can see drop trailer business has been increasing over the last year. I heard as well that there is a lot of units trying to get on the Nordica ex Holyhead as there is no other freight vessel sailing from Holyhead at her times.
I think Irish Ferries are missing some of this business not having a freight vessel competing with the Nordica. If the HSS goes for good I think the Swift could be gone in around 12 months of that after they build up the HSS business. If Irish Ferries/Stena could get something like a superfast they could clean up on passenger & freight business.
Surely if Nordica is having problems with being full due to her exclusive sailing times, could they not just reverse roles with the Adventurer?
Presumably the configuration is the way it is because most business wants to leave the Dublin / Holyhead at the current departure times, so IF and Stena fight over it with the Adventurer and Ulyses departing at the same time.
There were not capacity issues in the past because the Explorer (with plenty of capacity) had a morning and afternoon crossing very similar to the current Nordica sailing until 2008.
You can see why moving the Nordica to Fishguard / Rosslare does make sense because for most of the year its capacity is more in line with demand, creating cost-saving opportunities if the extra summer demand can be catered for separately.
Revenue can then be increased at the same time on the central corridor by increasing capacity.
This might suggest either a new lease of life for the Explorer if the benefits outweigh the costs (highly unlikely I suppose, but a possible short-term solution) or as was suggested above, a slower vessel similar to the Adventurer.
Quotea similar size vessel to the Stena Adventurer will replace the Nordica.
Any idea which vessel this could be?
QuoteSurely if Nordica is having problems with being full due to her exclusive sailing times, could they not just reverse roles with the Adventurer?
The Nordica would be to small in lane meters & PC to cover the Adventurers slot as seen when she coved the Adventurers dry docking & then Finnarrow had her mishap bring back the Exporler.
QuoteQuotea similar size vessel to the Stena Adventurer will replace the Nordica.
Any idea which vessel this could be?
No sorry, just something of similar size to the Adventurer.
10 years ago of course that candidate would've been the now Stena Scandinavica, which of course is the Adventurer's true sister. Obviously she's ruled out of the running because a) she's too long now and b) she seems to be working perfectly well between Gothenburg-Kiel with her cousin the Germanica.
Stena could get the old 2000 Stena Britannica which I think is now Finnlines' Finnfellow.... or they could charter back the Finnarrow ;D !!!!
How was the Nordica at Fishguard? Could Stena refurbish and upgrade her to say the Lagan/Mersey standards and more?
Quoteor they could charter back the Finnarrow ;D !!!!
It wont be Finnarrow now called Euroferry brindisi. The EUROFERRY BRINDISI has been bareboat-chartered to Grimaldi for five years. Finnfellow only has a PC of 452, not much more than Nordica's PC of 405.
I know, that was one of the reasons why I put the laughing sign. Well that could spruce the Finnfellow up, with the similar upgrade to the Stena Lagan and Mersey (and do the same to the Nordica) and maybe extend her accommodation and capacity a bit.
This just an idea of course.
I think the Nordica times are great if you want to travel from the UK to Dublin. I normally sail out to Dublin on the Friday morning sailing and come back on the Sunday afternoon sailing to Holyhead. The Sunday afternoon sailing to Holyhead is always very busy everytime I have been on but a lack of seats onboard is always a problem.
Some images of the Stena Voyager being dismantled in Landskrona are on the BBC Newsline Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=643655172333041
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=643659142332644&set=pb.197313523633877.-2207520000.1380734837.&type=3&theater
painful to see, but nice to keep up to date!
Not Irish Sea but Stena Britannica is on Quest TV tonight 11.00pm!
Thanks for the notice, always enjoy that show, especially when they talk about double deck loading as if it was a totally amazing invention.
Also full album of the HSS Stena Voyager's dismantling on BBC facebook here:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.643659075665984.1073741853.197313523633877&type=1
QuoteThanks for the notice, always enjoy that show, especially when they talk about double deck loading as if it was a totally amazing invention.
Also full album of the HSS Stena Voyager's dismantling on BBC facebook here:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.643659075665984.1073741853.197313523633877&type=1
"It is very sad to see Stena Voyager is dismantling". :'(
QuoteThanks for the notice, always enjoy that show, especially when they talk about double deck loading as if it was a totally amazing invention.
Yes, I did find that amusing!
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Also full album of the HSS Stena Voyager's dismantling on BBC facebook here:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.643659075665984.1073741853.197313523633877&type=1
Looks like its well underway and being done in a dignified manner. Still think Voyager is too young to be scrapped but a sign of the times I suppose.
Travelled on Stena Adventurer last night , would normally go with Irish Ferries from Dublin but since their website repeatedly refused to accept my booking I went with Stena instead.
I was quite surprised by how scruffy Stena Adventurer is (just to clarify by scruffy I mean her fixtures and fittings were showing signs of heavy wear and tear , the ship was spotlessly clean for the most part and presented as well as possible) .
Her internal layout leaves a lot to be desired , I get the feeling the 2009 reconfiguration was botched and the layout of her facilities is really very clumsey and at first glance not very well thought out , if it were me I would be slow to use whatever contractor did that job again , a pity as Stena Adventurer is an impressive vessel , I would even go as far as urging Stena to look again at her internal configuration , there is no need to go mad and spend big money ripping out what is already there , but some smart re-arrangement of fixtures , fittings and layouts would go a long way to realising that ships full potential.
Other than that , cabins (and layout of cabin block) excellent , crew working to their usual high standard ( and well done to Stena for still having a large number of local crews aboard their ships) and a final note is that there is currently great value to be had in the cafeteria , the offers appear to differ from sailing to sailing , but the evening sailing from Dublin has a full dinner for £5 , and the overnight sailing from Holyhead had a big breakfast for £4.99 (and it was a BIG breakfast)
Was it busy, how many people on board?
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I was quite surprised by how scruffy Stena Adventurer is (just to clarify by scruffy I mean her fixtures and fittings were showing signs of heavy wear and tear , the ship was spotlessly clean for the most part and presented as well as possible) .
I don't know how extensive the refurbishment work carried out from building has been, but remember reading that the Korean built ships where found not to have the same quality of fittings as those built in Europe, hence Stena building the replacements for the Hoek in Europe. However, you would think this would have been rectified in the subsequent refurbishments in 2009 and 2011? AFAIK Figura did the design work for the reconfiguration btw.
HSS wrote Yesterday at 21:07:
Was it busy, how many people on board?
Depends how you look at it , on both crossings the vehicle decks were all but full , but it was mostly with drop trailers , in terms of passengers there were about a dozen foot passengers each way , the 2115 sailing from Dublin managed to sell out all cabins however there was availability on the 0230 sailing from Holyhead , not too many private motorists on either sailing.
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I was quite surprised by how scruffy Stena Adventurer is (just to clarify by scruffy I mean her fixtures and fittings were showing signs of heavy wear and tear , the ship was spotlessly clean for the most part and presented as well as possible) .
I don't know how extensive the refurbishment work carried out from building has been, but remember reading that the Korean built ships where found not to have the same quality of fittings as those built in Europe, hence Stena building the replacements for the Hoek in Europe. However, you would think this would have been rectified in the subsequent refurbishments in 2009 and 2011? AFAIK Figura did the design work for the reconfiguration btw.
Interesting that Figura designed that layout , its a complete mess , must have been a rush job , the facilities themselves are stylish and attractive , but floorplans are a disgrace , wasted space everywhere , and given that space is the most precious commodity on a ship its surprising to see so much of it wasted , deck 7 is a complete mess , on boarding the ship when you enter the passenger area you are greeted by a closed down shop that looks abandoned since 2009 , you must then cross a closed down resturaunt to get to the well hidden reception , the forward facing pullman lounge with big panoramic windows looks well , but its got about one fifth of the seats the space can hold and most of the seats in that section are broken or defective in some way.
The quality of fixtures and fittings were indeed low , I also have heard about quality on Asian built ships and it seems Stena Line are not immune , I was particularly struck by how flimsy cabin doors were and the number of non-working toilets and sinks was a surprise along with the low pressure of the showers , lots of loose panels everywhere and corrosion around one of the generator rooms looked like something normally found on a ship 40 or more years old.
I dont want to sound like I'm having a go at Stena Line , but Stena Adventurer did not come up to the standard usually found on Stena Line vessels , while the ship does not have any major problems (that I could see) it does need some work and some TLC , and a rethink of the internal layout is badly needed , like I said it does not need big money spent , just some clever re-arranging , overall I have to say Stena Adventurer is a fine ship , just a shame someone ruined the passenger area's.
Apparently there was a huge amount of money to upgrade the public areas of the Adventurer in the refit earlier this year but then the money was pulled at the 11th hour.
Perhaps a major refit next year then. After all, they've still not put the "Making good time" logo on yet.
There is no major refit is due for the Adventurer in the near future, however there are plans for a reconfiguration of the major areas on Deck 7, a refurb for the Stena+ lounge and also work to the shopping areas to be carried out during November, in time for the Christmas rush.
The Adventurer was originally intended to provide extra capacity if the HSS was not sailing and to have the ability to switch from low passenger to high passenger configuration, I think that is possibly the original cause of the confused layout that exists onboard.
Also when ordered the Adventurer was completed with a much higher passenger capacity than its Stena Britannica sister ship and both were provided with a base interior by builders Samsung and the Adventurers interior was originally completed during its delivery voyage.
There are plenty of onboard images of the Adventurer on Scott Mackeys Flickr site here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157623457108720/
And more info on the Adventurer here:
http://www.sealink-holyhead.net/#!stena-adventurer-ii/casr
Obviously with Stena's new low cost mantra and cost cutting mantra, the days of multi million euro refits will be a thing of the past until the company returns to profit.
http://www.goteborgdaily.se/stena-line-to-save-1-billion-kronor
And finally the Cotentin - Brittany Ferries modern freight vessel which has been listed for sale/charter has finished service on the English channel and is heading for Gdansk, I wonder will Stena Line charter/buy the Cotentin either to replace the Stena Alegra or one of the other freight vessels they are running in the Baltic (Ask or Urd) being two candidates.
http://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1424310&size=full
I think the Stena Adventurer is a great ship doing a great job...just needs a bit of TLC! Scott Mackeys Flickr site is excellent.
it is a great ship, by all accounts she really just needs a refit, hopefully stena have noticed this too and will address this issue, she's a relatively young ship and smashing looking too, i think therell be a lot of time for her to get a refit
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Also when ordered the Adventurer was completed with a much higher passenger capacity than its Stena Britannica sister ship and both were provided with a base interior by builders Samsung and the Adventurers interior was originally completed during its delivery voyage.
There are plenty of onboard images of the Adventurer on Scott Mackeys Flickr site here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157623457108720/
And more info on the Adventurer here:
http://www.sealink-holyhead.net/#!stena-adventurer-ii/casr
Obviously with Stena's new low cost mantra and cost cutting mantra, the days of multi million euro refits will be a thing of the past until the company returns to profit.
http://www.goteborgdaily.se/stena-line-to-save-1-billion-kronor
And finally the Cotentin - Brittany Ferries modern freight vessel which has been listed for sale/charter has finished service on the English channel and is heading for Gdansk, I wonder will Stena Line charter/buy the Cotentin either to replace the Stena Alegra or one of the other freight vessels they are running in the Baltic (Ask or Urd) being two candidates.
http://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1424310&size=full
The Britannica/Adventurer where built at Hyundai Heavy Industries IIRC. As margins continue to come under pressure and non-accompanied traffic becomes the source of an even greater proportion of the ferry companies income its hardly surprising that costs are being cut on parts of the vessels that aren't going to be used/seen by a large percentage of where the revenue comes from. Do haulage companies really care about the quality of fittings? The Superferry has had its day.
My family and myself tolerated both generations of the basic Vissentini interiors on the Norse Irish/Merchant Ferries/Norfolk Line ships between Belfast and Liverpool (and to be honest the ships where more than adequate) which where clearly designed with tourist traffic as a secondary consideration. While the Stena refits on the newer pair of former Vikings have been extensive, issues do still remain (not least the paper thin walls, excessive vibration in some passenger areas - I wonder if you get noise isolating headphones in the cinema, etc) but in reality the vast majority of passengers wont care so long as they get a decent meal and a good nights sleep (and a helpful and friendly crew makes more of an impression than fixture quality IMHO). In all honesty we preferred the "Super Cruise" experience to the Superfasts on the Northern Corridor.
Contentin has been rumored to be available for a while so you would think that if Stena did have an interest they would already have a role in mind. Is there any particular reason she is going to Gdansk for layup instead of a French port? I heard rumors of a refit being carried out there of which their would be no point if she was going for layup rather than charter. There was a bit of chatter on the BFE forum of her going to DFDS but with passenger accommodation added she would be quite a similar proposition to the Barfleur.
Although she is a freighter the Armorique design IS
based on the Contentin (the hull form is said to be identical for example) so their may be scope for conversion/rebuilding into a proper ropax with good passenger facilities if such a ship was required - would be much cheaper than a new build as well.
It is true that a friendly crew and good food make a good first impression , however when I say the fixtures and fittings are poor I am referring to things like the first cabin I was allocated did not have a working toilet , shower or sink , the second choice cabin had the same issues , the third cabin while did have working shower and toilet , the latch on the cabin door was so poor that the door would not stay closed unassisted while the vessel was pitching at sea , several other passengers also had issues with cabin doors that night (one of which point blank refused to open much to the frusteration of the crew member trying to deal with it) , also on deck 9 were several "trip hazards" where carpeting had come away from the floor , these can leave a very bad impression on people using Stena Line for the first time and may not be aware that these conditions are not Stena's usual form.
I suspect Giftgrub is correct in relation to the floorplans , if you assume there was an intention to close off deck 7 completely and only use deck 8 for off peak seasons , this would make a lot of sense in terms of how it came to be laid out as is , the fact Stena are going to reconfigure deck 7 means that they are aware of the issues. As I said Stena Adventurer is not a bad ship by any means , she just needs a bit of work and some TLC , if anything I would be keen to see what Stena do to rectify the issues as I am sure they will impress.
It should be noted that declining passenger numbers in the ferry industry is a situation almost unique to Ireland and the UK , everywhere else in the EU (and beyond) ferry traffic is in growth , this is driven in part by travelers being more eco friendly (the carbon footprint of an air traveler is 10 times that of a ferry traveler) , I would expect the trend in Ireland and the UK to reverse when the EU begins to apply punitive carbon taxes on aviation fuel within the next 2 years , Ryanair's Micheal O Leary is on the record as saying "the era of cheap air travel is coming to an end in the not too distant future" , there are some in the airline industry predicting an increase of 500% in air fares over the next few years (many forget that in 1993 it cost £500 to fly from Cork to London return with Ryanair!!!! , many predict that the industry will be going back to that) , most EU countries are already planning for this , except Ireland and the UK as usual.
Going a lot off topic but AIS is showing Contentin not only in Gdansk but it would appear she is at Remontowa (or blocking the entrance to one of the dry docks anyways!). I'm not aware of any damage to her and she had a refit last August. Perhaps her future has already been agreed?
One faulty cabin can be forgiven as an oversight but 3 in a row is unacceptable IMHO. Its a shame that her accommodation has got to this stage as she is an impressive looking vessel. Hopefully there are plans to rectify the situation through either ongoing onboard maintenance or scheduled refit.
I sincerely hope passenger numbers do pick up for the ferry industry but the fact remains that haulage is a much steadier year round source of income for the ferry companies. With no duty free to subsidise fares I doubt we are going to see any huge increase in the luxuriousness of our ferries. However its surely in the ferry companies best interests to ensure robust fixtures and fittings are used if only to reduce ongoing maintenance/replacement costs.
The Duty Free issue has been a sore one , while operators in Ireland , France and the UK have been badly effected by its loss , routes from Spain to the Canary Islands and North African countries , medeteranian services moving outside the EU and services operating to EU states from Norway and the Faro Islands are all uneffected as Duty Free sales are still booming on those routes , if anything it should be put to the EU that ferry operators who can alter their routes to move outside EU regulatory area's have a distinct unfair advantage over EU operators.
what was the idea behind removing duty free? another money making scam by the big wigs?
IIRC it was to keep tax revenues in countries, I.e. to stop people avoiding tax by going on day trips etc. Iirc not all EU countries where in favour but some sort of deal was done along the lines of do this and we'll let you have this (as with most things in politics).
From what I remember, the mark-ups were so much that it was cheaper to buy booze in the supermarket anyway than duty free on a voyage.
My bad mixing up Hyundai and Samsung as the Adventurers builder the power of advertising, was using a Samsung tablet at the time.
The Cotentin is being refitted and debranded in Rementowa before starting work for its new operator. I think it could be Stena to replace the Alegra which can then replace the Ask or Urd on the Baltic or it could be for DFDS on one of their freight routes.
Quotethese can leave a very bad impression on people using Stena Line for the first time and may not be aware that these conditions are not Stena's usual form.
That's a very good point, I suppose it becomes the norm for those of us that sail on a regular basis.
QuoteMy bad mixing up Hyundai and Samsung as the Adventurers builder the power of advertising, was using a Samsung tablet at the time.
The Cotentin is being refitted and debranded in Rementowa before starting work for its new operator. I think it could be Stena to replace the Alegra which can then replace the Ask or Urd on the Baltic or it could be for DFDS on one of their freight routes.
Brittany Ferries tweet says she's being dry docked and overhauled. We should find out soon enough where she is going as doubt they would be doing this to have her sitting still for an indefinite period of time
https://mobile.twitter.com/BrittanyFerries/status/387548419306188800/photo/1?screen_name=BrittanyFerries
QuoteMy bad mixing up Hyundai and Samsung as the Adventurers builder the power of advertising, was using a Samsung tablet at the time..
LOL, the Transporter and Transit being built at Samsung probably didn't help either! Just reminds us how diverse these companies operations are!
Quite a few rumours (unconfirmed) that Stena have chartered/bought the Cotentin and intend to use it as a replacement for the Stena Alegra on the Gydnia route.
The future destination for the Alegra has been mentioned as a potential replacement for the Stena Europe, however with a passenger capacity of 400 this is highly unlikely to happen.
I could see Stena Allegra indirectly replacing Stena Europe , Stena Allegra is no stranger to Dublin Port and I'd say thats where its heading , which in turn would release Stena Nordica to Rosslare , given that both Stena Allegra and Stena Nordica would need a capacity increase for Rosslare - Fishguard as Nordica is not a Stena Ro/Ro vessel my money is on her for the passenger increase , in saying that , it would not be any great surprise to see Cotentin turn up in Dublin either.
From my understanding in Fishguard and speaking to people who understand the harbour I am happy to say that the Stena Nordica replacing the Stena Europe. This is expected to take place in January/February.
QuoteFrom my understanding in Fishguard and speaking to people who understand the harbour I am happy to say that the Stena Nordica replacing the Stena Europe. This is expected to take place in January/February.
Not doubting the accuracy of your information, but without a major increase in passenger capacity the Nordica is too small to run the route during peak traffic times, Christmas, Easter, Summer, mid term breaks etc would leave the ship fully booked months in advance and Stena sending customers elsewhere, the issue has always been the need for a 1,000 passenger capacity for peak operation and the ability to then reduce the passenger certificate for offpeak operation without the passengers noticing the reduction in services. The Europe is due to refit in January and the Nordica could be covering for this.
If the Cotentin is purchased it would free up the Alegra to provide refit cover for that period on the Irish Sea /Swedish routes.
I think some interesting moves are being planned and the Rosslare route will get a renewed focus as it has survived the cost cutting regime and we will see some fresh tonnage within the next twelve months. (Not that there is anything wrong with the Europe that a few million euros investment in the technical side wouldn't solve, but age is against the ship now).
Bit more information
The Nortica move will be "temporary" while the Stena Europe would be put up for market. The money gained from that and other investment will mean new tonnage will be brought. This will have to be second hand due to low profits.
No timeframe I know has been given for this apart for the swop happing In January/February and if not enough money is produced for a new ship the stena Nortica will be refitted in 2014/2015 off season to carry more passengers.
Also berthing trials will happen for the Stena Nortica in January.
This is all from the same sources as the other post.
Are we sure its Stena Nordica that is expected to move to Rosslare? the reason I ask is that pending an aquisition by Stena Line (believed to be the cancelled Scandlines twins) Stena Nautica is expected to transfer within the company , given that Stena Nautica has worked out of Rosslare before (as B&I's Isle of Innisfree) and the Nautica has the required vehicle and passenger capacity , I'd be watching Stena Nautica and not Stena Nordica.
id love to see the nautica here, i think stena europe was deliberately run a little slower than in previous years on its crossings this year in order to save on fuel, at least thats what i heard a while back, to be hones i hadnt noticed however if they are happy with slightly slower crossing times nautica may be a good bet as it is quite a slow ship, that being said im not sure ho economical she is, in any case i would love to see her here
Quoteid love to see the nautica here, i think stena europe was deliberately run a little slower than in previous years on its crossings this year in order to save on fuel, at least thats what i heard a while back, to be hones i hadnt noticed however if they are happy with slightly slower crossing times nautica may be a good bet as it is quite a slow ship, that being said im not sure ho economical she is, in any case i would love to see her here
I don't know myself. All rumors point towards the Stena Nordica replacing the Europe but also the stena nautica is another candidate.
Personaly I think some of us are getting confused between names.
from shippax.se
COTENTIN snapped up by Stena
The closure of Brittany Ferries freight route between Poole and Santander now makes more sense after it was revealed that the vessel goes to Stena RoRo.
The 2,188 lanemetre and 160 driver/passenger vessel is rumoured to be renamed STENA BALTICA and will take over from the STENA ALEGRA on the Gdynia - Karlskrona route. The vessel was built in Finland in 2007. The vessel is understood to be very suitable for conversion, possibly adding extra passenger capacity or even by lengthening.
and more...,
Stena buys more Visentinis
Stena RoRo is understood to have purchased three Visentini class ro-paxes in a move designed to strengthen its hold on the ro-pax charter market and also to give the company opportunity to expand with new routes.
The fast approaching 2015 SECA deadline must also play a significant role with Stena looking for modern economic vessels which could be more easily converted for methanol or be retrofitted with scrubbers. The Visentini-class ticks all the boxes as they are powered by just two MAN medium speed main engines and have a relatively spacious casing and funnel.
Stena is reported to have paid €48m en-bloc for the 2002 built TRINACRIA and PARTENOPE. A comparable newbuilding would today cost more than three times as much so Stena is clearly hedging their bets. After some major investments in new tonnage for Hook of Holland routes, a prudent "wait and see" policy could wait until the full effects of 2015 are learned.
Stena are known to have been looking on the market for highly flexible ro-pax newbuildings which could conceivably be slotted into a wide variety of Stena's routes. Beyond the two ex-TTT ships, Stena is known to have also looked at the HOA SEN, a Visentini class ro-pax laid up in Vietnam.
QuoteBit more information
The Nortica move will be "temporary" while the Stena Europe would be put up for market. The money gained from that and other investment will mean new tonnage will be brought. This will have to be second hand due to low profits.
No timeframe I know has been given for this apart for the swop happing In January/February and if not enough money is produced for a new ship the stena Nortica will be refitted in 2014/2015 off season to carry more passengers.
Also berthing trials will happen for the Stena Nortica in January.
This is all from the same sources as the other post.
Not sure what vessel you are referring to here, the Stena Nordica or Stena Nautica would not need to conduct berthing trials in either Rosslare or Fishguard, the Nordica sailed on the route in January, the Stena Nautica has been converted to double deck loading and would be of no use in Fishguard.
As predicted the Cotentin now Stena Baltica will replace the Stena Alegra on the Gydina route and free up the Stena Alegra for another route within the company.
Image of the soon to be Stena Baltica in Gdansk
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=649512835081703&set=a.183338518365806.41044.171281966238128&type=1&theater
The purchase of the three Visentini ships could have a massive impact on Irish Sea services, they are all sister ships of the Stena Forwarder which served on the Dublin - Holyhead route and all can be converted to drive through with the addition of a bow door.
It is not beyond the realms of possibility that one of the purchases will be sent to Fishguard.
Details of the three Visentini vessels whose purchase was confirmed today:
http://www.ferry-site.dk/ferry.php?id=9243423&lang=en
http://www.ferry-site.dk/ferry.php?id=9261542&lang=en
http://www.ferry-site.dk/ferry.php?id=9243447&lang=en
and here is what they may look like: Obviously with the updated Stena Line Branding.
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/stena_forwarder_2001.htm
All will need a substantial investment to bring them up to date but offer very low running costs and and easy to manage maintenance.
Of course as they have been purchased by Stena RoRo they might all be chartered out to other operators but it is unlikely this will happen.
http://www.tttlines.it/en/fleet.php
http://www.tttlines.it/en/gallery.php
The purchase of the Visentini ships seem very in stressing but I am still sticking to my sources to Fishguard. These May effect up in Holyhead but right now I'm sticking to my sources.
I'll update you when I hear more.
frankly i think your sources may be flawed as i think you may be, im not sure of these sources you speak of but generally they just (or you just) seem to be gossip mongering, its all well and good to stir the pot and blame the stirring on un-named sources but to be honest in this forum posts with basis are a lot more welcomed than posts that are obviously baseless and seem to be the ramblings of god knows what, while this may seem harsh if you review the vast majority of your posts they have a lot of grammar and spelling errors and mostly seem to be based on this informant you have who seems to be away with the fairies
FYI...
Stena fowarder was very un realiable on the Irish sea in bad weather as she had poor sea keeping qualities . And bow thrusters were not powerful enough. The ship was only chartertered to compete with Ulysses while adventurer was being constructed.
QuoteFYI...
Stena fowarder was very un realiable on the Irish sea in bad weather as she had poor sea keeping qualities . And bow thrusters were not powerful enough. The ship was only chartertered to compete with Ulysses while adventurer was being constructed.
thanks for all of this fascinating information. was going to say the same of the old forwarder. however, i'm sure stena ro/ro will undertake the necessary improvements to make the ships appropriate and suitable for the routes. the forwarder was a disaster when she was at holyhead.
M
Things are about to get quite interesting on the Irish Sea, as pointed out by other posters the Stena Forwarder was not great on the Dublin - Hoyhead route due mainly to being a stern loader and poor thrusters, the three purchased Visentini's are due to be converted to drive through with rebuilt bows and extra thruster power can be provided.
Another potential surprise is that two of the vessels could end up on the North Channel as replacements for the Superfast twins - at first one would think -no way, however the Superfasts are fuel hungry, expensive charter fees to pay, limited deck heights (not all lanes are max height), possibly too luxurious for the routes operation.
The Superfasts do offer double deck loading and unloading, are modern, reliable, cost a small fortune to convert for the route, docking is nearly automated, offer an unrivalled service on the North Channel but are they making enough money to cover the operational costs ?
It is quite possible that all three purchased ferries after conversion will arrive on the Irish Sea, with the Rosslare and Belfast routes getting replacement vessels slashing operating costs and having a common engineering platform on five ferries - Stena Lagan/Mersey/ 3 purchases leaving Dublin - Holyhead with the Adventurer/Nordica combination.
of course Stena could renew the charter for the Superfasts in the morning and give the Europe the much needed technical refit in January and leave everything as is, but will they ?
Images of the Partenope and Trinacria from Marine Traffic, Hoa Sen as Vina Shin Price from Shipspotting (http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?query=VINA+SHIN+PRINCE&x=25&y=3)
Looking at the 3 new purchases , if you are going to rebuild the bows I would think it would'nt be too much of a stretch to alter them for double deck loading either.
Very interesting news. Remember that Stena have the Stena Feronia/Dublin Viking under their belt too- another Visentini.
If what Giftgrub saying above is correct about the Superfasts no wonder Stena Ferries are not making money. They spent a small fortune adapting them to suit their operation then after two years operation they are giving them back to the owners presumably after spending another small fortune returning them to original condition.
Then the ships they plan to replace them with have to be converted to fit a bow door - that will not be cheap either. Stena must have more money than sense.
QuoteIf what Giftgrub saying above is correct about the Superfasts no wonder Stena Ferries are not making money. They spent a small fortune adapting them to suit their operation then after two years operation they are giving them back to the owners presumably after spending another small fortune returning them to original condition.
Then the ships they plan to replace them with have to be converted to fit a bow door - that will not be cheap either. Stena must have more money than sense.
There is no guarantee that this will happen, its just a possibility and remember the vessels could be easily rechartered and deployed elsewhere as day ferries by either Stena or another operator, also Stena could use two of the Visentini's to replace the Ask/Urd on the Baltic Sea operations, It just not impossible that we could see all three on the Irish Sea
The Cotentin is out of dry dock in Rementowa and is alongside one of the quays, presumably completing its refit and safety inspections.
Any members work for Stena Line? Can you confirm any of this? Do you have some inside information......don't worry, we won't tell anybody!!
I thought I had heard it all until I saw Giftrub's post about the Superfasts! What a fiasco, if that is true.
They might be more suitable for Gothenburg-Frederikshavn, although the ports would need to be converted to double-deck loading, as they are currently sideloading. You might have thought somebody might have run the numbers and checked the deck heights before they took them on! The Superfasts were always known to be fuel-hungry beasts as they can operate well in excess of 25 knots.
In the Stena Line Story of a Ferry Company book, somebody in authority was quoted as saying they considered new builds, but settled for the Superfasts on charter. Perhaps they might have been in a better position now had they built from scratch.
I do hope that nobody is going to post that the wonderful Britannica and Hollandica are on the way out as well, or I really shall give up! The two Hook of Holland routes seem to be the only bright spots at the moment.
Matt
There is a good chance the Superfasts could be staying on the North Channel, there could be an announcement within the next few weeks confirming this and the deployment of two of the purchased vessels could be outside the Stena group.
Stena Line are adding a Third Ship On The Belfast - Liverpool and Stena Hibernia will be starting from Tuesday 5th November and extra saliling will depart Liverpool Tues - Fri at 03:00hrs and will depart Belfast Tues - Fri 1500hrs
Extra freight capacity then?
QuoteStena Line are adding a Third Ship On The Belfast - Liverpool and Stena Hibernia will be starting from Tuesday 5th November and extra saliling will depart Liverpool Tues - Fri at 03:00hrs and will depart Belfast Tues - Fri 1500hrs
Used to be a Belfast/Heysham ship, didn't it?
QuoteExtra freight capacity then?
The introduction of the Hibernia to the Belfast-Liverpool route will ease the pressure on the Lagan and the Mersey.
The Hibernia can't hold many passengers, so most of the freight will be unaccompanied trailers. The additional freight vessel in the route will also allow the Lagan and Mersey to take more non freight passengers & vehicles.
When I travelled on the Lagan (back in Norfolkline days) there were only about 15 passengers going over - including 2 Blues Brothers, complete with American ex-police car. coming back though, it was sardine style - United were playing the next day.
The limiting factor with Stena Hibernia is speed. She only has little engines and will most probably travel at 15-18 knots. Over that distance there will be a significant increase in crossing time. however, does that really matter? She has at least proved herself on the longer distance work with her previous assignments from Heysham.
Perhaps, had she been available, Stena Feronia may have been a better alternative, but she is busy down at Gibralter.
QuoteThere is a good chance the Superfasts could be staying on the North Channel, there could be an announcement within the next few weeks confirming this and the deployment of two of the purchased vessels could be outside the Stena group.
Thanks for this. I thought it sounded a bit far-fetched to move the superfasts having spent so much money on them. Their due diligence would have been exposed as severely limited had they had to move them.
Good news re Liverpool-Belfast and proof the investment was worthwhile.
Matt
The problem so far as I can see it with the superfasts is the same as it has always been with them - fuel consumption, which despite the modifications made by Stena is still pretty high I understand. Perhaps Stena would rather do something in the near future (and cut their losses) than be stuck in an HSS style situation? Perhaps world events have ensured that the price of fuel has stayed higher than they projected as well? On the flip side the Visentini series are known to be very economical, and a conversion similar to that on the former Vikings would create ships more than adequate for the routes IMHO. I believe the Stena forwarder class also have more in the way of passenger accommodation space than the original Liverpool Visentini's but having not travelled on the forwarder do not know if this is the case. What I don't understand about the superfasts is there is a whole deck inaccessible to the public yet it has to be lugged around every day - why not put this space to use? Whatever happens (and until any announcement is made otherwise we are all just speculating unless anyone has concrete sources inside Stena) I'm sure the ships deployed will be more than adequate. Another thing to consider is that Stena could simply charter out the new acquisitions to another company though I personally think one would be a good fit for Fishguard.
Its good to see Birkenhead get more capacity and it would seem that Stena have made the route work and are growing traffic! Certainly when crossing earlier in the year there seemed to be many more passengers on board than when I crossed on Norfolk line and Norse Irish. The facilities and crew where certainly far more suited to this traffic than previously. We are also approaching Christmas and I would imagine this is a particularly busy time of year for haulage which might have something to do with the Hibernia's deployment.
Its hardly surprising that Contentin is going to Stena though if my understanding of some French articles is correct she is only going on a bareboat charter (mind you my French isnt up to much and Google translate isn't playing ball with me either).
Regarding newbuilds unless its a misprint there's would seem to be something getting built at Visentini for Stena ro-ro tho what it is and where for I have no idea!
http://www.naos-design.com/en/news/120-visit-visentin-shipyard.html
Visentini Hull 226 is leading quite a charmed life, here is the original notification of its sale and some more info on it.
http://scolaroshipbrokers.com/visentini-nb-hull-226/
http://www.ship2shore.it/english/articolo.php?id=10906
As for the Superfasts the charter from Tallink expires next August and obviously negotiations are ongoing with regards to the charter fees and depending on how things go, Stena can exercise an option for another years charter, hand the ships back, sign a new charter or buy the ships.
Stena RoRo's purchase of vessels that can be used within the Stena Line network is no coincidence and there is still a chance (though not as big as initially flagged) that all three purchased ships could be heading for the Irish Sea. They bought three ferries for less than the price of one Superfast sold earlier this year.
Some great images of the Cotentin on sea trials today here:
https://www.facebook.com/jakub.bogucki/media_set?set=a.743822575644618.1073741833.100000506486027&type=1
Thanks Giftgrub, 226 looks like an interesting ship. Spotted Jakub Boguki's pics earlier on when someone welcomed him to the facebook group - very nice pics!
QuoteVery interesting news. Remember that Stena have the Stena Feronia/Dublin Viking under their belt too- another Visentini.
As well as
Norman Asturias (ex Baltic Amber, Borja)
Norman Voyager
Stena Flavia (ex Watling Street)
Mont Ventoux - also Visentini built albeit to an older design based on the second Norse Mersey.
All according to Stena Ro-Ro's website.
Does anyone else think TTT Lines logo looks very similar to that of TT line?
Not that any was needed but Official confirmation of the Stena Hibernia returning to the Irish Sea:
Stena Line has confirmed it will be adding extra freight capacity to its Belfast-Liverpool service. The Stena Hibernia will be introduced onto the route from Tuesday 5thNovember and will initially operate eight sailings per week giving freight customers greater availability and choice. The extra sailings will depart Liverpool Tues – Fri at 0300hrs and will depart Belfast Tues – Fri at 1500hrs.
Stena Line acquired the Belfast-Liverpool and Belfast – Heysham services in July 2011 and since then have undertaken an investment programme to increase capacity and improve service levels.
Paul Grant, Stena Line's Route Manager Irish Sea North said: "The freight market is showing signs of recovery and it's important that Stena Line adds capacity to accommodate the expected growth. Belfast continues to develop as a key freight hub for Stena Line with 11 daily departures to Cairnryan, Heysham and Liverpool and we are confident our customers will react positively to our expanded service."
Also the recent Stena RoRo purchases Partenope and Trincaria will be chartered back to TTT Lines for the the time being and TTT Lines will not be closing, that leaves the Hoa Sen to be sailed back from the far east for redeployment in Europe.
QuoteDoes anyone have any photographs of the Stena Britannica and/or Hollandica doing the 180 turn off Harwich prior to berthing? I know taking photos there is difficult, but it would be great to see any that forum members may have.
Thanks.
Matt
Hello Matt,
I'm all a bit new to this forum but couldn't help but notice your questions regarding Harwich routes. Stena don't run Harwich - Esbjerg, its run by DFDS with Sirena Seaways but Stena do sell freight tickets on their behalf too. Also, with regards to the Stena Hollandica/Britannica 180 degree turn, I actually have quite a good video of it which you can find on youtube by typing in Stena Hollandica turn harwich She turns in different directions according to wind direction etc.
thanks
Glad this has been confirmed and it's great to see the Hibernia making a return to the Irish Sea. Long may she stay there. It looks like Stena is captivating on the late night/mid afternoon market that P&O have done at Dublin.
QuoteQuoteDoes anyone have any photographs of the Stena Britannica and/or Hollandica doing the 180 turn off Harwich prior to berthing? I know taking photos there is difficult, but it would be great to see any that forum members may have.
Thanks.
Matt
Hello Matt,
I'm all a bit new to this forum but couldn't help but notice your questions regarding Harwich routes. Stena don't run Harwich - Esbjerg, its run by DFDS with Sirena Seaways but Stena do sell freight tickets on their behalf too. Also, with regards to the Stena Hollandica/Britannica 180 degree turn, I actually have quite a good video of it which you can find on youtube by typing in Stena Hollandica turn harwich She turns in different directions according to wind direction etc.
thanks
Hello there,
Many thanks for the clarification. I know that Stena don't run to Esbjerg, it was Harwich-Gothenburg I meant. They used it run Stena Portlink from Harwich-Gothenburg in the 1980s.
Brilliant re the 180 degree turn at Harwich thanks! I was at Shotley Gate, opposite Parkeston, in August and observed the Hollandica from there.
Matt
Few tihngs to mention;
The Partenope and trinacria will remain with TTT until January. Not confirmed where they will go afterwards
Cotentin still hasn't been handed over, but is expected this week. Plenty of rumours going around about where the Alegra might go, but no one knows for sure yet.
Stena Carrier has a new charter confirmed after she left the Bilbao - Zebrugge run.
Hoa Sen will probably be in Shanghai for a long time while sh goes through refit work. Probably about 4 months before she's ready.
Interesting news also. Any idea where the Stena Carrier is going? I wondered why Transfennica replaced with her sister the Ark Forwarder. Is it just because they have so many ships at their disposal they can swap them round interchangeably?
The Stena Alegra has ran aground at Karlskrona, no passengers onboard, mooring anchors failed.
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=105&artikel=5686941
http://www.bltsydostran.se/nyheter/karlskrona/stena-alegra-pa-grund(4001570).gm
QuoteThe Stena Alegra has ran aground at Karlskrona, no passengers onboard, mooring anchors failed.
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=105&artikel=5686941
http://www.bltsydostran.se/nyheter/karlskrona/stena-alegra-pa-grund(4001570).gm
Theres a tug on the way but it is expected to take some time to assess the damage and pull her clear due to Sweden still being in the grip of the storm. Sounds like nobody injured though which is good to hear, and the coastguard say it's not an emergency. Winds at Karlskrona are reported to have hit 40m a second!
I am beginning to think Stena Allegra is jinxed , very unlucky vessel that ship.
Stena Alegra has been refloated and having a hull inspection, some minor damage reported but mercifully no leaks so far.Not the best of starts to its new career.
up to date info here along with some amazing images of how close it was to hitting something.
http://www.kustbevakningen.se/sv/hallbar-havsmiljo/nyhetsarkiv/raddningsdykare-inspekterar-skrovet/
http://www.doverferryphotosforums.co.uk/dawn-merchant-past-and-present/
The poor racehorse! I'm glad she's been refloated though.
very good to hear that the outcome wasnt worse, have to say i think shes a fantastic looking ship
Quotevery good to hear that the outcome wasnt worse, have to say i think shes a fantastic looking ship
I agree. Also think she suits this colour scheme better than the others she has had. Perhaps she will make it back to the Irish sea someday!
I think she'll look even better if they get the blue belt around her like in the picture of the Stena Hibernia further up the page.
(remember when Shena Hibernia was detailed in the pale blue of the Maersk shipping line? - Yuk!)
Or just put a big blue STENA LINE on her hull.
Stena Hibernia Has Now Left Lubeck For Birkenhead ETA For Birkenhead is 4th November 8.00
It will be great to see her back on the Irish Sea and moving all that extra freight!
Some more up close images of the Stena Alegra here:
http://www.kustbevakningen.se/sv/hallbar-havsmiljo/nyhetsarkiv/fortsatta-dykningar-pa-onsdagen/
http://www.kustbevakningen.se/sv/hallbar-havsmiljo/nyhetsarkiv/inspektioner-pa-alegra-innan-lossdragning/
http://www.kustbevakningen.se/sv/hallbar-havsmiljo/nyhetsarkiv/ingen-olja-vid-grundstott-stenafarja/
The ship is now back in Gydnia for repairs, the Stena Spirit and Vision will have to absorb any freight for the next few weeks.
Image from Swedish Coast Guard
More images from the Alegra grounding here, a lucky escape
http://forum-schiff.de/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=23&start=4280#p96865
Also images of TT Lines Peter Pan also damaged in the same storm here: (one of its propellers was damaged on the quay - currently en route to Landskrona for dry docking)
http://www.trelleborgsallehanda.se/trelleborg/article2009502/Farja-slet-sig-i-Trelleborgs-hamn.html
http://www.trelleborgsallehanda.se/trelleborg/article2011215/Peter-Pan-kunde-lamna-hamnen-for-egen-maskin.html
The Stena Hibernia has stoppped off in Odense shipyard on the way to Birkenhead.
The Stena Hibernia will be late starting its new route on the Irish Sea, it is just leaving the Odense shipyard and will not arrive on the route as originally planned for tomorrow. Now scheduled to arrive at Birkenhead on the 7th November.
Well she has been laid up for most of the year so she does need a work out and a check up.
Shes currently in Brunsbuettel at the mouth of the Kiel canal where it joins the Elbe river. Im guessing she is going through the locks there. She arrived at 19:40 CET
Just going through the locks at the end of the Kiel Canal - images below from marinetraffic.com. Image of the Hibernia in the canal today.
Just found out that Stena have increased frequency on Travemunde to Ventspils to 3 times a week due to demand.
http://www.nieuwsbladtransport.nl/Nieuws/Article/tabid/85/ArticleID/38231/ArticleName/StenaLinevakernaarLetland/Default.aspx (in Dutch)
The route is served by Stena Flavia (ex Watling Street)
and a wee onboard vid http://youtu.be/khzjJD_MNzI
Must say I think I would get a bit bored during the 23.5hr plus crossing!
QuoteInteresting news also. Any idea where the Stena Carrier is going? I wondered why Transfennica replaced with her sister the Ark Forwarder. Is it just because they have so many ships at their disposal they can swap them round interchangeably?
It's quite unusual for a ship to change as they did mid-charter, particularly as crews are familiar with a vessel and trade, it's not so easy just to make the swap. Also, PEC's for Zeebrugge played a part. Wouldn't be surprised if it was due to a larger issue.
Stena Carrier will go to Dry Dock and then afterwards looks like she will trade out of Livorno.
Stena Carrier has been chartered for futher use in Italy on a route operated by Grendi from Vado Ligure-Cagliari
http://www.ship2shore.it/english/articolo.php?id=11715
http://shippingonline.ilsecoloxix.it/p/porti_e_logistica/2013/10/31/AQ4VMLp-charter_grendi_cagliari.shtml
That's good news and I'm glad the Carrier will be going somewhere new soon. I agree it must've been a severe technical fault that took her out of service.
I'm also glad that the Stena Hibernia is on her way to the Irish Sea again, hopefully she'll have her Stena markings put back on her soon.
Stena Hibernia currently in the north sea, heading towards the English Channel.
Will the existing crew stay with her or will there be some 'local' staff replacing current personnel who will presumably head back East? ( I suppose it may depend on who is on there to start with).
Stena Hibernia just off Ramsgate at the moment, arrival has been delayed until 8/11 at 16.00, now not expected into service until next Tuesday 12th November.
Would think the Stena branding will be reapplied when back in service as it will have quite a bit of time laid up between trips.
Whole weekends in Birkenhead, according to the timetable, so yes plenty of time.
Stena Carisma up for review at the moment and could be for the chop, though my understanding is Stena review her at the end of each season.
http://www.gp.se/ekonomi/1.2169541-stena-carisma-kan-sluta-segla (via ferriesofnortherneurope group and in Swedish!)
I always thought it a shame there was only one HSS900 so would hate to see her end up like Voyager. With Stena looking to cut costs though perhaps her time has come? If she is chopped I will dream of her coming to the Irish sea!
Unfortunately the Stena Carisma is unlikely to ever come to the Irish Sea, it uses a different linkspan from the HSS 1500 which would require significant capital expenditure to modify for the Dun Laoghaire and Holyhead ports, highly unlikely to happen.
As already mentioned in Stena Europe thread, the dry docking periods for the Stena Nordica and Stena Europe were released today with both going to Birkenhead for work, the Stena Nordica 28-30 Nov and the Europe Dec 1-Dec 7, the Stena Europe will be covering the Stena Nordicas Dublin- Holyhead schedule leaving all Stenas Rosslare traffic on the Irish Ferries Pembroke route from Nov 27- Dec 8.
Perhaps Stena have brought the refits forward to alllow the Europe tackle the traditional Christmas weather with all stabilisers functioning.
The Stena Hibernia is just rounding Lands End and is in the final leg of its return to the Irish Sea.
Will be interesting to see the Carisma's faith...
has ANYONE heard anything about the HSS discovery? I just can't believe she continues to be in this time trap in the Caribbean with no end in sight. Hope they have the interior aircon on otherwise she'll already be completely rotten/moist for sure.
I always thought the Carisma was profitable. No cut back on speed or winter layups over there to my knowledge.
As for Discovery, They must have the generators running for sure. AIS transponder has to be powered by something and there's all that tell-tale black soot on her stern.
Perhaps they're still burning off all the illegal diesel! :D
I get the impression she's stuck there because they haven't paid the berthing fees so the port has taken possession of her. Just a guess though.
QuoteI always thought the Carisma was profitable. No cut back on speed or winter layups over there to my knowledge.
Apparently she was profitable in her short season but the problem is that her season had become shorter and shorter in recent years. It would be much shorter than the HSS Explorer at Dun Laoghaire or the Express at Larne for instance.
About three years ago there was serious talk of her coming to the Irish sea to replace HSS Explorer (around the time that the Lynx was covering off season and Explorer was just doing High Season).
One of the multiple reasons it was ruled out apparently was that Carisma was going to go back to Gothenberg for her high season (No, I can't see the logic either!) so her linkspans would still be needed in Scandinavia. If she was to move fully though, that would be different. This was at a time when every possible scenario was being considered (some sensible - some nutty) and the service very nearly stopped for good before thankfully the new business model was put into place.
Now, if the Harbour Company in Dun Laoghaire was to maybe fund some of the cost of the engineering required in conjunction with the construction of the new Cruise Liner berth (in return for a contract extension from Stena) then that would change things considerably :)
Pete
The HSS is a marvel of technology , even 20 years after they left the drawing board , sadly fuel cost was never factored into the design process as it was'nt a major concern at the time (in 1994 if you had said Brent Crude would be $150 per barrel you would have been sent to an institution for a check up lol) , the problem with being a technological marvel is that not every company has the capability to operate and maintain such an advanced vessel , even if Discovery does make it out of impound dock I doubt there are too many operators who could maintain her , I was even skeptical of the company who bought her from Stena even before the illegal fuel fiasco.
I fear Discovery will follow Stena Voyager to the breakers before long.
As for a mad idea for Stena Carisma should she be made redundant in Scandinavia , I would move her to Dun Laogaire - Holyhead (and now for the radical bit) I would then move Stena Explorer to Rosslare Fishguard to replace Stena Europe , this would of course mean entering into an agreement with Irish Ferries to carry Stena's freight and to act as a bad weather back up , or possible bring a freighter from Stena Ro/Ro to operate alongside Stena Explorer , and possibly I would keep Stena Europe laid up somewhere for 12 months as a back up for deployment wherever needed across the Stena Line network , if after 12 months the results were positive Stena Europe could be sold off , if not she could be sent back to Rosslare , will have to do some homework to see how viable that option would be , but a mad idea I would consider if I were Stena Line.
Have read that the work at Remontowa on Contentin/Stena Baltica was on her engines.
Would love Stena to bring Carisma across to go head to head with Swift but alas I think it is nothing more than a pipe dream and probably as likely as Explorer running Belfast to Heysham!
Stena Hibernia Just in 12 Quays Birkenhead Now
Stena Baltica -
a new, bigger vessel on
the Karlskrona-Gdynia
route
Stena Line has confirmed it will replace Stena Alegra with a new Ropax vessel, Stena Baltica (former Contentin built in
2007).
The ship has a loading capacity of
• 2,188 lane meters,
• a deck height of 5.20 m and
• a passenger capacity of 210.
She has an open deck and takes Dangerous Cargo of stowage category A, B and C.
Stena Baltica offers double tier loading, which will give us the possibility to build more flexible timetables in the future as
all ships will be able to make the same turnaround time. Beside faster and more efficient port calls, the new vessel also brings an added capacity of about 240 lm compared to Stena Alegra.
The first departure is planned from Gdynia on 24th November at 18.00. Stena Baltica will replace Stena Alegra in the ordinary timetable. Please note that we will prolong our
temporary two ships' timetable without lay days until 22 November! This means we will have daily departures at 09.00 and 21.00 until 23 November.
We thank all customers for their patience during this period with less capacity and are looking forward to offer an even better service with the new ship set up.
For further information and questions please contact your local salesrepresentative or our booking offices:
Gothenburg: +46 31 704 08 00
Gdynia: +48 58 660 92 93
Karlskrona: +46 455 366 320
You can also find other reservation offices
and sales contacts on
www.stenalinefreight.com
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/~/media/newsletter/Baltica%20November%202013.ashx
Glad that this has been confirmed, hopefully the Allegra will get some further charter work. Glad to see the Hibernia has arrived for the weekend. I presume she'll start operations next Tuesday.
QuoteI would then move Stena Explorer to Rosslare Fishguard to replace Stena Europe , this would of course mean entering into an agreement with Irish Ferries to carry Stena's freight and to act as a bad weather back up.
Your vision for the Explorer would certainly add a much needed bit of class to Rosslare port. She'd also be nearly as reliable in poor weather as the Europe has been over the last 12 months.
But if fuel costs mean she can only manage a 6 month season in Dun Laoghaire, I can't see a year-round twice daily season on the southern corridor being even close to profitable; though I'd be happy to be proved wrong!
I also can't see the blissful co-operation you describe between IF and Stena happening, especially with IF having just snuck in front of the Nordica's sailings on the Holyhead to Dublin run.
Irish Ferries and Stena Line are direct competitors who will batter the crap out of each other commercially whenever possible , let no-one be under any illusions there , however operationally both will co-operate when needs be as is common in the shipping and transport industry in general , so long as the company in difficulty is willing to cover the cost no company will leave people stranded if avoidable , as can often be seen Irish Ferries and Stena Line will always back each other up when things go wrong operationally , when Fastnet Line had difficulties with Julia passengers were transferred to Irish Ferries and Stena Line without quibble , Fastnet Line did also carry "distressed inventory" for both Irish Ferries and Stena Line from time to time.
Stena Explorer would have the advantage of being the fastest way of crossing the Southern Irish Sea and could be marketed from that angle , of course Stena Explorer can carry a limited amount of freight but expect to pay through the nose for the privilege , If Stena Line were to have Irish Ferries carry its freight Irish Ferries would be transporting it at the bulk order rate while charging the haulier the individual unit price , so they get a percentage of the fare without the cost or risk of transporting it so it would have merit , I reckon that Stena Explorer would need an average load factor of 50-60% across the full operating year to operate Stena Europe's departure level , weather that is achievable I am uncertain , however I am sure that if it can be done Stena would be the company to do it.
Stena Hibernia is in drydock at Birkenhed currently. I believe this is for the application of logos. However she also had some technical issues on the way as well as hitting some severe weather en route (hence the delay). All being well she will start with the 03:00 ex Birkenhead on Tuesday morning arriving at 12 and returning from Belfast at 15:00 according to the timetable making her timetabled crossing approx 45mins slower than the Lagan/Mersey (she only does 17.6kts) which will not matter due to her 12 driver capacity. The timetable at Stena Line Freights website already reflects this even if the route page doesnt! As she is only sailing Tuesday to Friday, there will still only be one crossing in each direction on Mondays (the 22:00 overnight sailing). Hopefully I might grab a pic or two over the next few days if im feeling better! Will be strange seeing her back!
Stena Hibernia has left drydock, and has just arrived again at 12 quays.
The Stena Hibernia was wet docked today and had the funnel logo repainted, images of the Hibernia entering and leaving the dry dock here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/10784312045/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/10784310895/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/10784428644/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/10784560483/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/10805057595/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/10805187134/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/10805185244/
QuoteThe Stena Hibernia was wet docked today and had the funnel logo repainted, images of the Hibernia entering and leaving the dry dock here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/10784312045/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/10784310895/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/10784428644/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/10784560483/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/10805057595/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/10805187134/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/10805185244/
That was quick! Pity they didn't get Stena painted on her side as well but she looks better already :(. Might make her first arrival in Belfast with the camera on Weds morning.
Photos of Stena Hibernia's arrival at Belfast today on her first commerical sailing as third ship on the Birkenhead route at http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey
Great photos, she looks very smart!
Well Hibernia's return hasn't gone too well so far. Following technical problems on her first night (at some stages making as low as 5/6 knots) she is currently still at Birkenhead almost 2 hours after she should have left for Belfast. She left Belfast 2 hours late today with her speed dropping again on the way back according to AIS meaning she didn't get in until after 2am this morning. She isn't a fast ship at the best of times so getting her back on schedule before the weekend layover isn't going to happen unless they sacrifice a round trip or turn her around extremely quickly (unlikely). At least there's Sat-Mon to sort her out before she's back on duty!
Hibernia watch™ update (no I can't sleep)
She left Birkenhead at 5am and appears to be running OK. She slowed down to 6/7 knots for a bit but this appears to have been to offload a pilot. Will probably arrive in Belfast about 2 all being well so still 2 hrs behind timetable -at least its drops and not accompanied she carry's.
I did notice during her delivery voyage, although most of the journey was done at 10-13kts, she speeded up on her last leg, surpassing 20kts passing Anglesey. Must've had a good tail-wind.
I think service speed on her old Heysham crossing was 16-18kts.
QuoteI did notice during her delivery voyage, although most of the journey was done at 10-13kts, she speeded up on her last leg, surpassing 20kts passing Anglesey. Must've had a good tail-wind.
I think service speed on her old Heysham crossing was 16-18kts.
Depending on who you believe she does either 17.6 or 18.6 knots. Im inclined to go with 18.6 from an archived version of the DFDS site http://archive.is/K6ptb. She seems to be back to normal now running between 15 and 18 knots last night. As expected got into Belfast at 2ish this afternoon.
Confirmed dates for Nordica and Europe's visit to Lairds. Nordica 28/11 - 01/12 and Europe 1/12-07/12 if all goes according to plan
Hibernia watch™ Update.
Tonights weather appears to be getting the better of her - she's currently doing 8 knots (and has been for a while) and appears to be using the Isle of Man as shelter. Currently off Douglas and appears to be circling. Her sister Maersk Exporter appears to be sailing as normal between Heysham and Warrenpoint, whilst the Stena Lagan and Mersey are also running as normal.
Surely this must be a really bad investment ? I might be used to hSS speed, but 8 knots is crawling speed really?
QuoteSurely this must be a really bad investment ? I might be used to hSS speed, but 8 knots is crawling speed really?
She's now headed for Birkenhead at 11ish knots. She was scheduled to LEAVE Birkenhead some 5 hours ago. She appears to have been plagued by technical difficulties since her introduction but hopefully they can get it sorted out over her weekend layover. At the end of the day the vast majority of her traffic is unaccompanied anyway -if anything she is clearing the excess traffic the 2 main ships can't carry so in that sense she is doing as planned - albeit not as efficiently as hoped.
To be fair she's been laid up for at least 9 months, so there are bound to be some teething problems initially.
Indeed , modern ships are designed to be in operation non-stop , most will have issues coming out of lay up , I recall having a nitemare of a time when Fastnet Line's MV Julia came out of hibernation in the Baltic , and just look at the difficulties Stena are having with Stena Allegra , I am beginning to understand when what engineers mean when they say its only marginally more expensive to let a ship run empty than it is to lay it up.
QuoteIndeed , modern ships are designed to be in operation non-stop , most will have issues coming out of lay up , I recall having a nitemare of a time when Fastnet Line's MV Julia came out of hibernation in the Baltic , and just look at the difficulties Stena are having with Stena Allegra , I am beginning to understand when what engineers mean when they say its only marginally more expensive to let a ship run empty than it is to lay it up.
I suppose its like running a car that's been sitting for a few years. Only 1000x bigger and with a lot more water involved!
She's off to the Isle of Man again - sure why not?
(http://tarbyonline.com/images/hibernia%20lost.jpg)
She appears to have headed straight for there after leaving Birkenhead. Taking a more sheltered route?
Almost looks intentional! Are they just giving her a shake-down perhaps? Is she loaded?
QuoteAlmost looks intentional! Are they just giving her a shake-down perhaps? Is she loaded?
Good point, think she is timetabled to leave Birkenhead at 3am now I think about it so you could well be right. She's headed up along the cost of the IoM at present, just off the Bahama Bank buoy.
EDIT: looks likes she's Belfast bound now
According to Marine Traffic, the Hibernia is currently sitting in Belfast Lough just outside Bangor.
The Hibernia is now Docked in Belfast, Having arrived in Port in the early hours this morning (02:39am Approx), sailed outbound again around 5am and sat in Belfast lough until 12pm today.
Arrived back in Port around 13:45 approx.
Not quite sure what that was all about. Possibly no room to Dock temporarily in the Channel, it's old spot - were it sat when in lay-up is currently being used by the P&O Express
QuoteThe Hibernia is now Docked in Belfast, Having arrived in Port in the early hours this morning (02:39am Approx), sailed outbound again around 5am and sat in Belfast lough until 12pm today.
Arrived back in Port around 13:45 approx.
Not quite sure what that was all about. Possibly no room to Dock temporarily in the Channel, it's old spot - were it sat when in lay-up is currently being used by the P&O Express
You just reminded me that I still haven't got any pics of Express!! Must get down next week!
Despite leaving about 30mins late from Belfast, Hibernia seems to have arrived at 12 quays about on time. Few slowdowns on the way but also exceeded 19kts at times as well! Hopefully she can settle down into trouble free service now.
Stena Europe leaving Rosslare on the 28th of November, heading to Dublin to cover for the Nordica while she goes into dry dock, then when she gets back Stena Europe is going in her self. Stena have no replacement service in Rosslare, passengers are being transferred to Irish Ferries. The Celtic Horizon is going into dry dock for Celtic Link Ferries for the very first time in January, she will be gone for the first 2 weeks of january. There is no replacement service all sailings are just cancelled.
QuoteQuoteThe Hibernia is now Docked in Belfast, Having arrived in Port in the early hours this morning (02:39am Approx), sailed outbound again around 5am and sat in Belfast lough until 12pm today.
Arrived back in Port around 13:45 approx.
Not quite sure what that was all about. Possibly no room to Dock temporarily in the Channel, it's old spot - were it sat when in lay-up is currently being used by the P&O Express
You just reminded me that I still haven't got any pics of Express!! Must get down next week!
Despite leaving about 30mins late from Belfast, Hibernia seems to have arrived at 12 quays about on time. Few slowdowns on the way but also exceeded 19kts at times as well! Hopefully she can settle down into trouble free service now.
The best place for a photo of the express is at the turning circle at the titanic building.
That's where I was thinking. If I time it right I might get a shot of some of the Stena fleet as well from the same spot. Keep meaning to get a few shots of the Titanic building at night as well - so many photos but so little time! Cheers
The Cotentin is turning into the Stena Baltica this weekend, some white paint been applied:
https://www.facebook.com/jakub.bogucki/media_set?set=a.759800527380156.1073741841.100000506486027&type=1
Cotentin is now Stena Baltica on AIS, new paint job should be finished during the week.
QuoteCotentin is now Stena Baltica on AIS, new paint job should be finished during the week.
Although its only been a few weeks its seems to have taken forever for her to renamed!
Yep, it did take quite awhile for them to transfer the Baltica. The sale of the ship was only finalized last week.
Looks like the Stena Alegra will be put on a bareboat charter, she won't be moved elsewhere in the Stena RoRo/Stena Line fleet.
Has she actually been sold, I thought it was just bareboat charter. Shame about the Alegra, but I hope she gets employed soon, even if it's to ARV like her sister.
Reports that Stena have taken the Cotentin on a rolling 12 month charter with options to continue/purchase which would make sense with Stena not have to commit a huge amount of money for a freight vessel.
Also the Stena RoRo purchase Hoa Sen has a last reported location of JIANGYIN on the Yangtze river near Shanghai, I wonder are they getting a refit done in China before sending it back to Europe or have they found charter work for the ferry in the far east or more likely New Zealand as the Aratere of Interislander has been damaged and is expected to be out of service for six months due to propeller damage.
Dont think anyone actually officially knows yet. French news sources are saying chartered because Stena weren't prepared to match BF's valuation however this was a while back and theres been nothing since apart from this arrticle http://www.lemarin.fr/articles/detail/items/le-cotentin-de-brittany-ferries-sous-les-couleurs-de-stena.html which says its a 12 month charter though Stena's route manager recently spoke of the new Baltica as a "long term solution". Could be a charter with option to purchase, or something else as well.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see another BF ship moving on (not saying this based on any specific information btw) as its no secret that direct and indirect government subsidy has been the difference between profit and loss at BF for a quite few years now (allegedly the purchase and charter of the ships is subsidized by local authorities due to a "different interpretation" of EU law than the UK has, and the company has also received state aid from the French government on more than one occasion). We have already seen BF upset the French unions in an effort to cut costs at the end of last year as well as rejigging their timetable to increase vessel utilisation, and the Barfleur was also out on charter recently. As governments and local authorities across Europe look to cut costs perhaps BF's additional revenue streams might start to dry up. Mind you, there is talk of a BF new build over at BF enthusiasts.
I hope Contentin/Stena Baltica does well on her new route and stays with Stena for some time. There is also scope for her to be converted into a passenger ship as well so she has some "stenability" as well. Just a pity the yard that built her wont be around much longer!
Nordica and Europe both cancelled tonight AFAIK. Both Superfast VIII and Stena Hibernia have just left Belfast, both late. It was really rough up here this afternoon - Belfast lough looked like open sea. Stena Lagan looks like she's running a little behind getting into Belfast
Very rough seas here in Rosslare tonight too, I think Oscar Wilde had some difficulties getting in here earlier
Big U running a bit late into Dublin too as well as Stena Adventurer.
Here are some of the cancellation for today/tomorrow
IRISH SEA
Please find today's Irish Sea full schedule update:
Wednesday 20.11.13
Holyhead - Dublin: Irish Ferries Swift sailings CANCELLED Wednesday 20th November (11:50 and 17:15 from Holyhead and 08:45 and 14:30 from Dublin)
Dublin-Holyhead: Stena Line have CANCELLED the 15:10 Dublin-Holyhead Wednesday 20th November. The 20:30 departure from Holyhead is also CANCELLED.
Liverpool - Dublin: Seatruck PM Sailing CANCELLED Wednesday 20th November
Dublin - Liverpool: Wednesday 20th November: Sailings 18:00 and 23:00. AM Sailing Thursday 21st November CANCELLED.
Heysham - Dublin: Seatruck Departure from Dublin CANCELLED Wednesday 20th November, departure from Heysham CANCELLED Thursday 21st November
Rosslare - Fishguard: Stena Line have CANCELLED the 21:00 Rosslare-Fishguard Wednesday 20th November.
The Stena Baltica has entered service today on the Karlskrona - Gydnia route, it replaces the Stena Alegra on the route and is sporting a very strange hybrid of the BF Livery (blue along the bottom of the hull) and Stena Funnel colours.
More images of the Baltica here:
http://www.landgangen.se/forumsmf10/index.php?topic=30350.0
you can see where the Brittany Ferries branding was painted over in the 3rd and 4th images.
and some more
https://www.facebook.com/jakub.bogucki/media_set?set=a.766190570074485.1073741844.100000506486027&type=1
Its a shame they didn't do the full livery, perhaps suggests she may return to BF in the shorter term if things don't work out which would add weight to the chat that she is only initially on a one year charter. If anything she should be in the blue freight livery as she isn't carrying passengers.
QuoteIts a shame they didn't do the full livery, perhaps suggests she may return to BF in the shorter term if things don't work out which would add weight to the chat that she is only initially on a one year charter. If anything she should be in the blue freight livery as she isn't carrying passengers.
The new Stena Baltica although having a very low passenger capacity is bookable by regular passengers and not an exclusive freight vessel, though the onboard experience would be very different from that offered by the Stena Spirit/Vision.
QuoteQuoteIts a shame they didn't do the full livery, perhaps suggests she may return to BF in the shorter term if things don't work out which would add weight to the chat that she is only initially on a one year charter. If anything she should be in the blue freight livery as she isn't carrying passengers.
The new Stena Baltica although having a very low passenger capacity is bookable by regular passengers and not an exclusive freight vessel, though the onboard experience would be very different from that offered by the Stena Spirit/Vision.
Wasn't bookable when I tried earlier but perhaps theres a bug in the system or it was being updated. I believe she can carry 200 pax, i'm sure some wouldn't mind sailing on her if the price was reduced accordingly to compensate for the lack of facilities! Would be very disappointed though if pricing was the same for passengers as the Spirit/Vision though
Your not going to like the pricing then:
Wow! Why would anyone want to pay a premium (apart from an enthusiast of course lol) to travel on a ship with more limited facilities??? Next they will be declaring she is a cruiseferry ;) !
Yeah I have to admit Stena Baltica looks awful , surely they could have done a better job than that.
Stena Alegra Will be Heading Back To Falmouth and Her ETA Falmouth 13.00 30/11/2013
The Alegra will be going a lot further than Falmouth as it has been chartered to Interislander to provide cover for the Aratere in New Zealand.
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Stena-Alegra.aspx
https://www.interislander.co.nz/Timetable/Disruption-Message-From-Interislander-28-NOV.aspx
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/229211/kiwirail-confirms-ferry-replacement
Does anybody know why the Stena replacement (Rosslare-Fish) service wont accept foot passengers? Thats according to the booking system.
Is the replacement the Nordica?? Thanks :)
The replacement vessel is the Isle of Inishmore and you sail to Pembroke
Ah ok....that makes sense now. Was wondering how they were going to make room for 2 ships with 1 berth :D
thanks giftgrub
QuoteThe Alegra will be going a lot further than Falmouth as it has been chartered to Interislander to provide cover for the Aratere in New Zealand.
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Stena-Alegra.aspx
https://www.interislander.co.nz/Timetable/Disruption-Message-From-Interislander-28-NOV.aspx
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/229211/kiwirail-confirms-ferry-replacement
Oh that's good I'm glad she's found some more work.
She is chartered for 6 months. I presume she will return to European waters afterwards.
Nordica now on her way to Birkenhead.
Possible response to Irish Ferries expansion , Stena Line have appointed new agents for the Cork region to handle enquiries , bookings , drop in centers and ticket collection , Lee Travel is the new agent giving Stena Line a presence in Princess St , Paul St , Youghal , Midleton and Ballincollig.
Additional freight agents for the Munster region are to follow soon.
To be honest if Stena Line are trying to revive the Fishguard service with increased traffic from Munster (it should be remembered that 1/3rd of the population of the Republic lives in Munster) the best way to do that would be for Stena Line to ditch Rosslare and move to Cork , aside from access to a bigger population base the berthing fees at Cork are less than half of that of Rosslare and the Port of Cork has better docking facilities and ancillary services than Rosslare as well as being a more sheltered location , my only concern being that Stena Europe may not be up to the job without serious money being spent on her (which at her age would be questionable) , however if Stena Line found the right ship it is possible to do Cork - Fishguard in 5 hours meaning they could continue to offer 2 round trips per day from Fishguard , another reason to change ship would be capacity , I suspect such a service would attract a significant amount of traffic away from the Irish Ferries Rosslare - Pembroke service so Stena Europe may not have enough lanemeters to deal with the freight demand.
Another thing for Stena Line to consider is road infrastructure , having checked with the National Roads Authority they are no plans either current or future to upgrade the N11 or N25 but based on current traffic trends there will not be a need to upgrade these roads to full dual carrigeway until 2030 for the N11 and 2040 for the N25 .
Stena Nordica is Now in Cammel Lairds Dry Dock Birkenhead
QuoteThe Alegra will be going a lot further than Falmouth as it has been chartered to Interislander to provide cover for the Aratere in New Zealand.
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Stena-Alegra.aspx
https://www.interislander.co.nz/Timetable/Disruption-Message-From-Interislander-28-NOV.aspx
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/229211/kiwirail-confirms-ferry-replacement
A ship with no fin stabilisers operating on one of the roughest stretches of water in the world - what are the chances of her being nicknamed "The Vomit Comet"! Good to see her finding work so quickly though.
QuoteQuoteThe Alegra will be going a lot further than Falmouth as it has been chartered to Interislander to provide cover for the Aratere in New Zealand.
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Stena-Alegra.aspx
https://www.interislander.co.nz/Timetable/Disruption-Message-From-Interislander-28-NOV.aspx
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/229211/kiwirail-confirms-ferry-replacement
A ship with no fin stabilisers operating on one of the roughest stretches of water in the world - what are the chances of her being nicknamed "The Vomit Comet"! Good to see her finding work so quickly though.
I'd be more worried about that ships luck on a run like that , the Stena Jinx I mean Stena Allegra could make for a very interesting charter on the Cook Straight LOL
The Nordica was back at Holyhead this afternoon waiting to berth after the Adventurer & Ulysses sailed.
A few images of the Nordica's short stay in drydock here:
http://www.irishseashipping.com/photofeatures/shipco/stena/nordica301113/nordica301113.htm
as posted above the Stena Alegra:
The Stena Alegra while not fitted with fin stabilisers does have a flume watertank to do the same job, it won't be easy sailing for the ship but a spin to New Zealand at full speed will blow the cobwebs out and give the machinery a proper workout which can only improve the reliability of the ship in the long run.
One of Stena RoRo's latest purchases the Hoa Sen is to be renamed the Stena Egeria during its refit in Shanghai. An image (artists impression)of the vessels new look has been posted on the Stena RoRo website.
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Stena-Egeria.aspx
Wonder will we ever see this Stena offering on the Irish Sea ?
Some Superfast sailings cancelled up here today with delays on other sailings, no doubt due to the weather. Birkenhead ships sailed but 60 mins late IIRC.
Northern Marine Management, the company that manages the Stena Precision, Performer, Alegra, Feronia & many others, has started a new company - Northern Marine Ferries that will operate independently from the NMM (as they are primarily, a tanker company).
I'd hazard a guess that we will see them taking on a lot more ferry business in the near future.
QuoteOne of Stena RoRo's latest purchases the Hoa Sen is to be renamed the Stena Egeria during its refit in Shanghai. An image (artists impression)of the vessels new look has been posted on the Stena RoRo website.
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Stena-Egeria.aspx
Wonder will we ever see this Stena offering on the Irish Sea ?
Looks like this ship will enter service early in the new year. Probably in Asia but this has to be confirmed.
The Belfast-Heysham Stena Precision called at Twelve Quays today, some great photos at
http://www.irishseashipping.com/photofeatures/shipco/stena/precision151213/precision151213.htm
I have not been update with stena lines ships lately BUT where is the old stena baltica the ship that use to operate the rosslare to Fishguard route? And why is there a new sten a baltica from Brittany ferries?
Thanks.
:)
The former Stena Baltica which sailed as the Koningin Beatrix from Rosslare is now the Snav Adriatico for SNAV, covered in much detail earlier in this thread.
The reason there is a new Stena Baltica is the Cotentin was chartered from Brittany Ferries to provide more freight capacity on the Karlskrona Gydnia service and they renamed the ship Stena Baltica and it replaced the Stena Alegra on this service. Also covered in much detail earlier on this thread.
Thanks gift grub, I browse back through this thread.
QuoteThanks gift grub, I browse back through this thread.
No problem, over 80 pages of information for you to have a look at along with plenty of great images.
Can I just ask the man that recently died from s tena line, the founder or who ever he is! Is this him?
No, the man in that picture is alive and the head of Stena operations. Going off topic here, this thread is fleet movement's.
Two of Stena's vessels are scheduled for a quick drydocking next month.
Stena Mersey to H&W for dry dock 1-3 Feb.Stena Lagan will operate days ex Liverpool and nights ex Belfast.
Stena Lagan to H&W for dry dock 8-10 Feb.Stena Mersey will operate days ex Belfast and nights ex Belfast.
It is expected Stena Hibernia will take up nights ex Liverpool and days ex Belfast during this time.
Obviously no major work scheduled as the time in dock is very short.
No news yet if the Superfasts are going for dry docking this year.
Does the HSS have to dry-dock this year?
Yes , all passenger ferries must undergo an annual ultrasound test , which requires them to be out of the water for testing.
Not all ferries require an annual dry docking, many of the Visentini built vessels go for much longer between dry dockings, a visual inspection of the hull by divers is normally the case. Obviously the age of the vessel and the requirements of its marine classification can determine the length of time between dry docking periods.
There are actually no plans to dry dock the Superfasts this year or the Adventurer, the Nordica and Europe have been done, the Lagan and Mersey are next, at the end of the year you can expect to see the Explorer in for some TLC and cleaning of the hulls, with all the talk about LNG would it take much to convert the HSS to LNG and slash operating costs ???
Quote, a visual inspection of the hull by divers is normally the case.
Wasn't there a big problem over this somewhere in the EU recently? I seem to recall a maritime court case recently whereby hull micro-fractures below the water line which later became hull breaches were not detected during the underwater inspection , serious questions around why the ship had not undergone an ultrasound test in 3 years were raised.
There are also questions being of Interislander in New Zealand about ultra-sound tests on Aratere before she lost her propeller and shaft.
I always thought that in Ireland and the UK car ferries must undergo a drydock inspection every 12 months with some grace time included , unless the rules for ro/pax are slightly different.
It does seem to differ between the different ferries but It's been 2 years since Stena Lagan/Mersey saw a dry dock. Last Feb the Lagan went to Larne for a hull survey and the Mersey had it done in Belfast, albeit further upstream than her normal berth.
HSS will see a dry dock in December - 2 years since her last visit. A dive survey has been done in Holyhead before Christmas.
Nordica was dry docked in late 2011 and then again before Christmas 2013.
Adventurer will be dry docked in early 2015 - 2 years since her last overhaul which was in Marck 2013.
Superfast VII and VIII will not be dry docked until early 2015 (if they stay) which is also 2 years since they were out of the water last February.
Expect Precision and Performer to dry dock after the summer as it will be 2 years since they were in back in Sept 2012.
Europe dry docks every year mainly due to her age and certificate renewals are obviously tougher as the vessels get older.
Stena Alegra Runs into Trouble..
The website, tvnz.co.nz has reported that the Stena Alegra has struck the dockside, but the story only seems to report a loss of Power which affected propeller control systems:
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/stena-alegra-stuck-dockside-again-5802565
Hehehe Stena Jinx strikes again , bet they are sorry they bought that ship now LOL.
QuoteStena Alegra Runs into Trouble..
The website, tvnz.co.nz has reported that the Stena Alegra has struck the dockside, but the story only seems to report a loss of Power which affected propeller control systems:
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/stena-alegra-stuck-dockside-again-5802565
They must have driven over a lot of black cats to get this much bad luck, how much more can go wrong with the Alegra ? They managed to sail from Sweden to New Zealand and now this !
It's not that bad...
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/9626267/Stena-Alegra-ready-to-sail
Stena Line's Irish Sea Fleet with transfer technical management to Northern Marine Management in Glasgow, progressively by the end of April.
The Stena Mersey and Stena Lagan will be the first to transfer, joining the Stena Precision, Stena Performer and Stena Hibernia.
Anybody any idea why the Adventurer was hovering in D bay waiting for the Nordica to leave?
She was waiting on Stena Nordia to leave, she seam to have had a problem with her bow doors again, she sailed at 17.20hrs. Sailing update has the Nordia as delayed on the UK website but on time on the Irish one.
"2030 Nordica Sailing is delayed by approx 1 1/2hours. Latest check-in 2030."
Ah fair enough, thanks ferryman!
Wee update from Scott Mackey on flickr
Stena Adventurer refurbishment
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157623457108720/
Stena Lagan
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157625811741177/
The most recent shots are at the beginning of each of the above sets.
Some great photos of the Stena Adventurer from Harry Gains at www.sealink-holyhead.net
Some good news for the North Channel Stena Line operation as Stena have renewed the charter of the Superfast VII & VIII until Autumn 2019. One assumes that a reduction in charter fees has been negotiated and that an option to purchase is probably included in this agreement.
https://newsclient.omxgroup.com/cdsPublic/viewDisclosure.action?disclosureId=592586&messageId=733232
Looks like Stena have cancelled all sailings between Dublin & Holyhead tomorrow...
'Stena Line regrets to inform that 08:20 and 15:10 sailings from Dublin port on 08/02/2014 are cancelled due to adverse weather.'
'Please be advised tomorrow 8th February 08:55hrs and 13:50hrs are both cancelled due to adverse weather conditions in the irish sea.'
Quote from: giftgrub on February 05, 2014, 08:04:45 PM
Some good news for the North Channel Stena Line operation as Stena have renewed the charter of the Superfast VII & VIII until Autumn 2019. One assumes that a reduction in charter fees has been negotiated and that an option to purchase is probably included in this agreement.
https://newsclient.omxgroup.com/cdsPublic/viewDisclosure.action?disclosureId=592586&messageId=733232
Lets hope so because the figure I have heard was quite substantial! I thought there was an option to purchase in the original agreement? By the time we get to 2019 these will be 18 year old ships though, and they are already quite costly to run!
Some UNCONFIRMED rumours that Stena RoRo are in the process of acquiring/chartering the former Superfast X - Dieppe Seaways that is currently on short term charter to DFDS Seaways for the Dover - Calais service, if the rumours prove to be true, wonder is it possible if the Superfast could make arrive on the Irish Sea.
Also UNCONFIRMED are rumours that the Stena Vison and Stena Spirit are in line to replace the Stena Saga and Stena Europe in 2015 when they are expected to be replaced on the Karlskrona/Gdynia route by the current Stena Scandinavica / Stena Germanica as the Gothenburg - Kiel route is expected to be closed with the introduction of low sulphur SECA regulations.
In actual confirmed news Stena RoRo have chartered the Norman Voyager to Brittany Ferries once the charter with LD / DFDS ends in March 2014.
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Norman-Voyager.aspx
http://www.brittany-ferries.co.uk/economie
http://www.passengerships.fr/1/post/2014/02/brittany-ferries-sinstalle-au-havre-dfds-quitte-dieppe-le-transmanche-en-pleine-mutation.html
Apparently the Dieppe Seaways acquisition is going to happen not sure if its being bought by Stena Line or Stena RoRo but judging on past performance it will be Stena RoRo.
Former Stena Seafarer now Ant 2 has arrived off the coast of Aliaga, the final voyage is probably not too far away.
aw no, shame to see her go, i really have to finish the model of her
Well I'm not surprised to see her there. She's certainly had an eventful life.
The rumours regarding Stena's Baltic fleet and the Dieppe Seaways are very interesting and it'll also be interesting to see what happens next.
DFDS are probably having a WTF moment! She suits the livery in the photoshop'd pics BF have posted I think but surely this is BF trying to force out all competition in the Western Channel!
It wouldn't be a massive surprise to me if Superfast X went to Stena as the Superfasts up here have been well received by everyone I know, though her operating costs might be of concern and she wouldn't have a similar running mate if put on a 2 ship operation. That and the cost of converting her (assuming she wasn't being purchased to charter back to DFDS, anyone know if her initial problems are behind her now?). Mind you they must be satisfied with the running costs enough now to renew the VII/VIII charters for another 5 years and you would think that Stena roro would do Stena a better deal than Tallink re charter fees! Would seem logical to put either Spirit or Vision on the Fishguard link to see out their days in the same way Europe has.
Sorry to see Seafarer go, though looking at this the other 2 (sisters) may not have long either http://snpvalue.com/alerts/for-sale-or-charter-3-x-ex-stena-ropass-ant-2-and-sisters-1100-lm90-pax-usd-10/. AFAIK they are still operating though
Thinking out loud, what would people think of a Stenaified Superfast X on Dublin - Holyhead?
Quote from: Steven on February 08, 2014, 09:13:03 PM
Thinking out loud, what would people think of a Stenaified Superfast X on Dublin - Holyhead?
Was thinking when I heard this that if Stena wanted to upset Irish Ferries expansion plans they could replace Stena Nordica with the Superfast.
If the Nordica does go to Fishguard, what would she need to compete with the Inishmore? I suppose a lot, but what specifically?
As regarding the Stena Europe when she is eventually replaced. To my opinon 3 ferries that won,t be ideal for the route 1 The stena Nautica as she will be too small and too slow. The other 2 the Stena,s Vison & Spirit as they will be far too big. But what about the Stena Julandica or the Nordica. With modiforcations to the 2 they are the ones that will be ideal for the Fishguard to Rosslare As Stena are good in working with shipyards regarding conversion work. The other point is is Stena Line comitted in continuing to operate out of Fishguard. Thats the other thing Stena needs to asked and for Stena to asked around to clients what service do they want from Stena.
The former Stena Seafarer Ant 2 has been joined by the Ant 1 (Stena Pioneer) and Anna Marine (Stena Leader) all former fleetmates of the coast of Aliaga only the Ant 2 has a destination of Aliaga on the ais at the moment though. (three vessels in blue on image attached)
Anna Marine is now destination Aliaga, I would think all three are heading for the beach soon.
Quote from: giftgrub on February 07, 2014, 11:10:48 PM
Also UNCONFIRMED are rumours that the Stena Vison and Stena Spirit are in line to replace the Stena Saga and Stena Europe in 2015 when they are expected to be replaced on the Karlskrona/Gdynia route by the current Stena Scandinavica / Stena Germanica as the Gothenburg - Kiel route is expected to be closed with the introduction of low sulphur SECA regulations.
Can now confidently state that while the Spirt/Vision may be redeployed within the Stena route network they won't be coming to the Irish Sea. Would also doubt they will be replaced on the route they currently serve as Stena have no other vessels with enough passenger capacity.
Stena RoRo are the purchasers of Dieppe Seaways and the vessel remains on charter with DFDS until November this year, that is unless DFDS decide to abandon the Dover - Calais bloodbath and get back to concentrating on the Dover - Dunkerque route and terminate the charter early. However it is no beyond the realms of possibility that the former Superfast X could just remain on the charter market generating profit for the company.
Also some nice images of the Stena Performer here:
http://www.irishseashipping.com/photofeatures/shipco/stena/performer090214/performer090214.htm
Well I will be sorry to see these go, great Irish Sea ships, Ant 1-Pandoro Bison (B&I Line), Ant 2-Pandoro Puma & Anna Marine-Pandoro Buffalo, lots of memories :'(
Quote from: giftgrub on February 09, 2014, 07:03:27 PM
Anna Marine is now destination Aliaga, I would think all three are heading for the beach soon.
As I expected sadly following seeing the 3 where for sale as a trio :(. Given their age though its hardly surprising - 39 years is good going!
FWIW I think Jutlandica would be a good fit for the Fishguard run (operating opposite her sister!) and but would Stena want to put her there over somewhere else? Wouldn't it be epic if they could use her as a train ferry between Rosslare and Fishguard though?! (not likely given the investment required in infrastructure)!
TBH Superfast X wouldn't give Stena much of a capacity increase (except in terms of passengers) over Nordica. They could operate the service as "kinda fast" instead of Superfast as I dont think they could run the crossing any faster due to crossing times and berth availability. Another possibility I thought of (IF SF X goes to Stena and her charter not renewed by DFDS) is thus. As we know, Stena have a long term history of chartering to Marine Atlantic in Canada. The former Superfast IX currently operates for them as Atlantic Vision and runs opposite Leif Ericsson (the former Stena Challenger) as well as the heavily rebuilt former Stena Trader and Traveler ((on charter from Stena Ro-Ro funilly enough) between Port aux Basques and North Sydney. As well as having a big difference in speed the Leif Ericson is very much the baby of the fleet in terms capacity and I would also assume facilities, so its not beyond the realms of possibility that SF X could be chartered out to run opposite her sister which would then allow Leif Ericson to be sold on to whoever.
I would be amazed if the Stena Spirit or Vision went to Fishguard, not least because the are actually older than the Europe. Construction started in 1979/80, even though delivery was delayed until 1986/87. They have far too much cabin and freight capacity for the route, even after the cabins were removed from the upper freight deck in the most recent refit. It's a bit like the nonsense a few years ago about the Stena Britannica moving to Fishguard. If they ever replace the Europe, I would expect to see something a bit newer.
The Kiel-Gothenburg route closure speculation is also of news. This is one of their oldest and most established services and I thought that the current Germanica and Scandinavica were enjoying good loadings, not least because the Travemunde route was closed in 2010, not to mention the massive redevelopment of the Kiel terminal.
Perhaps the Dieppe Seaways will replace the Stena Nordica, which could then be released for Fishguard. That would certainly justify spending some money on the Dieppe Seaways, whose interior was ruined by SeaFrance.
Does anybody have any news about the proposed Bristol to Cork service?
Matt
Does anybody have any further news on the proposed ship order by Stena? The so-called EasyJet concept where they have one design of ship which can be used across the fleet.
Thanks.
Matt
Quote from: Matt73 on February 09, 2014, 10:17:44 PM
Does anybody have any further news on the proposed ship order by Stena? The so-called EasyJet concept where they have one design of ship which can be used across the fleet.
Thanks.
Matt
Nothing as of yet, but I would not be surprised if they order a batch from Visentini,(I kow the yard is not making ferries at the moment but) I think we can safely say the days of massive cruise ferries (not ignoring Brittany Ferries new order) are over and likes of the Moby Freedom style vessels will become much rarer as time goes on. Imagine a Visentini with bow doors, double deck loading and 1,000 passenger capacity, cheap to run, capable of 24 knots, easy to maintain, able to handle bad weather, easy to lengthen if necessary........
While the Stena Nordica is a perfect match for the Fishguard service when its quiet, it does not have the additional capacity to take the traffic when its busy, before Christmas when the Oscar was cancelled the Europe was running full with max passenger capacity used, thats twice the Nordica's passenger capability. the recently acquired Stena Egeria of Stena RoRo would be a perfect fit. (As long as the standard interior is ripped out and replaced with the Stena version of the Visentinti as seen in the Lagan and Mersey)
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Stena-Egeria.aspx
Ant 1 destination now Aliaga, all three ships are heading for the beaches
I was surprised that they all date from 1975. They look so modern compared to other vessels of the time. The St. Columba was built the same year, and Hengist and Horsa only 3 years before.
Quote from: Matt73 on February 09, 2014, 10:13:21 PM
I would be amazed if the Stena Spirit or Vision went to Fishguard, not least because the are actually older than the Europe. Construction started in 1979/80, even though delivery was delayed until 1986/87. They have far too much cabin and freight capacity for the route, even after the cabins were removed from the upper freight deck in the most recent refit. It's a bit like the nonsense a few years ago about the Stena Britannica moving to Fishguard. If they ever replace the Europe, I would expect to see something a bit newer.
The Kiel-Gothenburg route closure speculation is also of news. This is one of their oldest and most established services and I thought that the current Germanica and Scandinavica were enjoying good loadings, not least because the Travemunde route was closed in 2010, not to mention the massive redevelopment of the Kiel terminal.
Perhaps the Dieppe Seaways will replace the Stena Nordica, which could then be released for Fishguard. That would certainly justify spending some money on the Dieppe Seaways, whose interior was ruined by SeaFrance.
Does anybody have any news about the proposed Bristol to Cork service?
Matt
Just don't see the Dieppe Seaways going to Fishguard due to her running costs, but I agree Spirit and Vision aren't the most likely options (remember they where modernised last year as well so they must intend to keep them in service a while yet . This isnt the fiirst time I have heard of Kiel-Gothenburg being a potential closure mind, though there does seem to be a lot of investment involved in the route also. I agree that Egeria would be a good fit for Fishguard. Speaking of Visentinis, was reading through the Stena interim update for Q3 and it mentions that they expect to acquire 3 ropax's before the end of 2013 at a cost of EUR 64.5 million approx. Assuming this is referring to the 3 Visentini's they acquired that means the average price is around the EUR 21.5 M which is a heck of a lot less than another Stena Adventurer or Ulysses!
Another thing to think about - IF the 3 "pre-owned" Visentinis cost Stena EUR 64.5 M, the new BF Pegasis is costing EUR 270 Million for 1 ship! Likewise Spirit of Britain/France where Eur 180M each. Although not comparable in terms of facilities, they all do the same thing at the end of the day. Likewise Stena spent a lot of money on Spirit and Vision, according to the aforementioned interim update Stena Baltica (ex Koningin Beatrix) was sold for about EUR 2.5 M so its not like they would see the investment paid back if the ships where sold on.
According to this article (in Italian) Visentini recieved an order for a ferry from Nordana recently, though I assume this will be like their existing ships and be a pure ro-ro with container capability. http://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/barometro-economia/2014-01-31/ordini-ripresa-solo-estero--152452.shtml?uuid=ABrgPet
It will be interesting to see what approach different operators take with many ships around Europe due for replacement. Im guessing Stena will stick with the ro-pax formula (freight is up 8% while car takings are stagnant according to the aforementioned document) but with the flexibility (or Stenability as they would say) in the design to do a conversion to passenger operation like they did with Traveler and Trader which remember had a big section taken out of them as well as having accommodation added.
Wee shot of Stena Performer I took today arriving in Belfast, running slightly late. It was feckin cold btw!
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5519/12468933924_c16c55ef87_z.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7406/12468558924_c8e93a966b_z.jpg)
and one of Stena SF VII taken last summer
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3799/12468559164_51b36b8c32_z.jpg)
Stena Adventurer on an interesting tack this morning (Ulysses isn't much better).
Also noticed Stena Explorer's AIS transponder has been active for the last couple of days.
(sorry, don't know how to do screen capture otherwise I'd have put the pictures up).
Stena Lagan seems reluctant to head to Belfast, circling at mouth of lough 2/3 hours https://www.dropbox.com/s/bl2xhzjoh8x3ubs/Lagan.jpg
I think it's because Stena Mersey is still sat on the berth. Wind's not so bad up there but they've probably delayed the Mersey's departure to such a time that she can have a better passage through Liverpool Bay.
My sources tell me Mersey took a bit of battering last night on her way to Belfast. Lagan still circling. Hibernia cancelled tonight. I'm guessing they are gonna switch the ships on the roster and use Mersey for tonight's sailing to Birkenhead. As Mersey is on the berth Lagan can't discharge. VT4 (Cairnryan berth) is double deck and also required for the Super fast service which is still sailing - SF VIII currently enroute as I type. I'm guessing Lagan will be out there until Mersey departs. (22:30 according to the schedule). God help those on board - my house is taking a battering (a few miles inland) never mind a ferry!
Many thanks to Giftrub and Steven for those very comprehensive resposnes. I very much agree with your analysis.
Re the St Columba in an earlier posting, she was delivered in 1977, not 1975, and the Hengist, Horsa and Senlac were delivered in 1972/3.
I'm old enough to remember the Lord Warden, on which I had possibly one of the worst sea crossings ever to Dun Laoghaire in 1979. Then again, a return trip on Pont Aven last May from Santander probably was the all time worst. I don't think she's a particularly good sea keeper and would be interested in anybody else's view.
Matt
Lagan finally looks like she is berthing with the assistance of a tug (Willowgarth). Mersey has left for Birkenhead.
EDIT: lagan still appears to be berthing with tug assistance. Stena Hibernia is on the Heysham berth (VT1) with Stena Precision tied up (I assume) down river a little.
Quote from: Matt73 on February 12, 2014, 10:12:18 PM
I'm old enough to remember the Lord Warden, on which I had possibly one of the worst sea crossings ever to Dun Laoghaire in 1979. Then again, a return trip on Pont Aven last May from Santander probably was the all time worst. I don't think she's a particularly good sea keeper and would be interested in anybody else's view.
Matt
Am surprised you had a rough ride on Pont Aven , conditions must have been very bad that day , I have been out in some nasty swells on Pont Aven and always found her to be steady in bad weather , certainly she would have better sea keeping than Oscar Wilde , Celtic Horizon or Epsilon.
Mersey was a couple of hours late in to Birkenhead this morning so she's late getting away this afternoon. Stena Lagan appears to be operating as normal now, albeit on the opposite side of the roster. Superfast sailings on time, though its still pretty windy out there.
The latest (courtesy of Freight link)
Cairnryan - Belfast ALL CURRENTLY ON TIME Belfast - Cairnryan ALL CURRENTLY ON TIME Heysham - Belfast 09:00 09:00 Belfast - Heysham 09:00 09:00 Heysham - Belfast 21:00 22:30 Belfast - Heysham 21:00 22:00 Heysham - Dublin 02:15 12:00 14/2 TO BE ADVISED Dublin - Heysham 14:30 14:30 TO BE ADVISED Heysham - Warrenpoint 08:30 08:30 Warrenpoint - Heysham 08:30 08:30 Heysham - Warrenpoint 21:00 CANXC 13/2 Warrenpoint - Heysham 21:00 22:00 Birkenhead - Belfast 10:30 10:30 Belfast - Birkenhead 10:30 10:30 Birkenhead - Belfast 22:30 22:30 Belfast - Birkenhead 22:30 22:30 Birkenhead - Belfast 03:00 03:00 Belfast - Birkenhead 15:00 15:00 Liverpool - Dublin 09:30 09:30 Dublin - Liverpool 09:00 09:00 Liverpool - Dublin 21:30 CANCX 13/2 Dublin - Liverpool 21:00 19:30 Holyhead - Dublin STENALINE ALL CURRENTLY ON TIME Holyhead - Dublin IRISH FERRIES SWIFT SAILINGS CANCX Dublin - Holyhead STENALINE ALL CURRENTLY ON TIME Dublin - Holyhead IRISH FERRIES 14:15 & SWIFT SAILINGS CANCX Fishguard - Rosslare 02:45 / 14:30 14:30 CURRENTLY ON TIME Rosslare - Fishguard 09:00 / 21:00 ALL CURRENTLY ON TIME Pembroke - Rosslare 02:45 / 14:45 14:45 CURRENTLY ON TIME Rosslare - Pembroke 20:45 / 08:45 ALL CURRENTLY ON TIME
Some changes to the North channel operation this weekend as the Stena Superfast VII gets a few days off for some much needed technical work.
Stena Superfast VII is off service for essential maintenance from 1000 this Saturday 15/02/14 until 1000 on Monday 17/02/14. Final sailing will be 0730 on Sat and she resumes again with 1130 ex Belfast on Mon.
Stena Superfast VIII will undertake an extra sailing on Sunday morning in lieu of VII.
Stena Hibernia will also provide freight cover.
Then...
Stena Superfast VII will be off service again from 1000 Saturday 22/03/14 until 1000 Tuesday 25/03/14 when the same arrangements will apply.
Visit of Stena Performer to Twelve Quays....
http://www.irishseashipping.com/photofeatures/shipco/stena/performer090214/performer090214.htm
RE Stena's ships transfering to Northern Marine Management. I don't think its been mentioned on here before, but NMM is a part of the Stena "empire". I guess it makes sense not to duplicate something which is already in the group (said with my managers "hat" on).
Any word on Trinacria and Partenope, and specifically are they staying with TTT lines?
Quote from: HSS on February 13, 2014, 09:35:57 PM
Visit of Stena Performer to Twelve Quays....
http://www.irishseashipping.com/photofeatures/shipco/stena/performer090214/performer090214.htm
Strange seeing her on the "wrong" river!
It would seem from the info supplied by www.marinetraffic.com, that Stena Hibernia did an extra return journey to Port Ryan on Saturday [15th Feb], leaving Belfast at around 19.50, the return arriving in Belfast at 03.30 on the 16th.
Would I be right in thinking that this would've been freight cover for the absence of Superfast VII?
does anyone know what work is been carried out on the superfast 7 is it major or routine due to no dry dock this year
As posted on Feb 13th, Stena Hibernia was providing cover for the Superfast VII's weekend off.
The Superfast VII is getting some technical work done to a gearbox and other ancillary areas and will have another weekend off in March for the gearbox to be replaced, this work has been required for quite some time and obviously can only be done during a quiet weekend.
Following on from my post towards the end of last year about HSS Carisma being under review, I have heard that Carisma will NOT be sailing this summer. Have not heard anything official as of yet, but things did go strangely quiet after news reports at the end of the year saying a decision was too be made within 4 weeks (which is long over now). An interesting statistic I came across via the motorship blog is that Carisma consumes twice the amount of fuel per round trip as Stena Danica which apart from having a much higher capacity is also powered by 4 1980's sulzer diesels which you would imagine aren't as efficient as modern powerplants. Added to the fact that Carisma only sails at 35 knots to conserve fuel and is speed restricted for part of the journey anyway it's probably hard to justify the outlay. Sincerely hope she does run, but unfortunately its not looking likely.
Quote from: Steven on February 16, 2014, 01:24:10 AM
RE Stena's ships transfering to Northern Marine Management. I don't think its been mentioned on here before, but NMM is a part of the Stena "empire". I guess it makes sense not to duplicate something which is already in the group (said with my managers "hat" on).
Any word on Trinacria and Partenope, and specifically are they staying with TTT lines?
Quote from: HSS on February 13, 2014, 09:35:57 PM
Visit of Stena Performer to Twelve Quays....
http://www.irishseashipping.com/photofeatures/shipco/stena/performer090214/performer090214.htm
Strange seeing her on the "wrong" river!
I believe this is the exact reason. A few of the Stena Line ships in the Irish Sea have been with NMM or over a year (Precision/Performer and the Hibernia). Also, the Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey have been in Crew Management since last October i believe. As NMM is one of the "Stena Sphere's" strongest performing companies, it is perfectly logical to have the technical management done by them.
I see the Stena Hibernia is in Cairnryan tonight. Might take a wee drive down if shes going to be back in March, just for a nosey!
Stena Lagan and Mersey have sailed light today in order to reposition (Monday is the layover day on the Birkenhead service). I believe the reason for this is that Lagan has an MCA drill and MES deployment in Belfast next Monday and so needs to be back on her own roster in order to be in Belfast next week.
Trincaria and Partenope have been chartered back to TTT Line, the length of that charter has not been disclosed, the former Hoa Sen - Stena Egeria has been in drydock in Shanghai since the end of last year, so is probably having some major rebuilding work carried out for whatever job they have planned for it. One thing is they are not going to be converted for bow opening/double deck loading configuration as the quotes were astronomical given the ferries purchase price.
Dont think it has been reported before, but apologies if it has.
Stena Line are to leave the current terminal in Gothenburg for ferries to Denmark in 2020. The company have signed a new lease with the city which explicitly states there can be no renewal of the lease. Current speculation is that the Denmark services will move to the Germany terminal. Meanwhile it has been reported that traffic through Gothenburg has increased for the first time in 3 years. Current speculation is that the Denmark services will move to the Germany terminal.
http://www.porttechnology.org/news/gothenburg_ro_ro_traffic_up_for_first_time_in_three_years
It seems that the Irish Sea crews are not the only ones to be affected by cost cutting. Reports from Sweden suggest that Stena are to make cuts to crews in order to save SEK 1.3M by 2015
http://www.gp.se/nyheter/goteborg/1.2269199-stena-varslar-befal-pa-farjorna
So where does this leave the HSS Carisma? There was much speculation that she might not make a return this year and she doesn't appear at all on the booking system for 2014. Would leave Explorer feeling a bit vulnerable on Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead....
Pete
Quote from: DublinPeter on February 18, 2014, 02:45:46 PM
So where does this leave the HSS Carisma? There was much speculation that she might not make a return this year and she doesn't appear at all on the booking system for 2014. Would leave Explorer feeling a bit vulnerable on Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead....
Pete
Its pretty certain that Carisma is NOT going to sail this year. Whilst there has been nothing official from Stena that I am aware of, its well known that she simply costs too much to run (see my earlier). It would be cheaper to run another (much larger) conventional vessel on to the link! AFAIK it has been confirmed that Explorer will continue to run, however whether that remains to be the case is anybody's guess. Carisma uses entirely different engines btw to the HSS1500, with the main thing in common between the 1500 and 900 being the hull form. The parts from Voyager could keep Explorer running for a few years yet whereas Carisma is a unique vessel.
Thanks Steven,
Seems to be a deal done in Dun Laoghaire for HSS for 2014 and 2015 at least which is a good sign. Will be a shame to see Carisma withdrawn though - I've never seen her up close but she looks like a nifty little thing. Wonder how she would handle the Irish Sea :)
Pete
Unlike the HSS 1500's Stena Carisma stands a good chance of being sold for further use by another operator.
Not a fleet movement as such, but it does involve Stena!
StockMarketWire.com - Conygar Investment Company has been given planning consent for the Holyhead Waterfront development by Isle of Anglesey County Council.
The proposed development, which is a joint venture with Stena Line Ports, consists of a 500 berth marina; 252 waterfront apartments; 74 houses; an 80 bed hotel; 8 waterfront commercial/leisure units (total 4,040 square metres); a sail training/youth centre; a maritime museum; parking and winter boat storage and associated landscaping and green space.
Chief executive Robert Ware said: "We are pleased to secure the planning consent and believe that the continued improvement in the housing market will very much benefit our development which in turn will create much needed employment opportunities and attract new businesses to the area both during construction and thereafter. - See more at: http://www.stockmarketwire.com/article/4758522/Conygar-gets-go-ahead-for-Holyhead-development.html#sthash.Ejlcwn1a.dpuf
Quote from: Steven on February 18, 2014, 02:57:54 PM
Quote from: DublinPeter on February 18, 2014, 02:45:46 PM
So where does this leave the HSS Carisma? There was much speculation that she might not make a return this year and she doesn't appear at all on the booking system for 2014. Would leave Explorer feeling a bit vulnerable on Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead....
Pete
Its pretty certain that Carisma is NOT going to sail this year. Whilst there has been nothing official from Stena that I am aware of, its well known that she simply costs too much to run (see my earlier). It would be cheaper to run another (much larger) conventional vessel on to the link! AFAIK it has been confirmed that Explorer will continue to run, however whether that remains to be the case is anybody's guess. Carisma uses entirely different engines btw to the HSS1500, with the main thing in common between the 1500 and 900 being the hull form. The parts from Voyager could keep Explorer running for a few years yet whereas Carisma is a unique vessel.
Just came across the fuel consumption figures for Stena's high speed ferries whilst doing some research for my new website. These are taken from Stena Line - The Story of a Ferry Company (p.358)
HSS 1500: 480t/24hr
HSS 900: 270t/24hr
Stena Lynx 3 (Incat 81m) 115t/24hr
So basically Carisma has over twice the consumption of a 1996 built 81m InCat, but less than a third extra car and passenger capacity (900 pax vs 670 and 212 cars vs 148). The difference between Swift and Explorer in consumption must be huge!
The HSS quoted fuel consumption figures are for when they were running at the original operating speed, as they now throttle back the Explorer, the figures have improved but are still horrendous compared to regular vessels.
Unfortunately for the HSS900 Carisma it also uses a version of the HSS linkspan which limits the future use of the vessel as it also needs the purchaser to buy the linkspans for docking etc, the Incats and Austals can be easily modified for most linkspans quite easily which allows them to switch ports relatively easily.
Interesting image of the Stena Batica on the next edition of the Shippax Magazine
Quote from: giftgrub on February 19, 2014, 09:41:00 PM
The HSS quoted fuel consumption figures are for when they were running at the original operating speed, as they now throttle back the Explorer, the figures have improved but are still horrendous compared to regular vessels.
Unfortunately for the HSS900 Carisma it also uses a version of the HSS linkspan which limits the future use of the vessel as it also needs the purchaser to buy the linkspans for docking etc, the Incats and Austals can be easily modified for most linkspans quite easily which allows them to switch ports relatively easily.
Interesting image of the Stena Batica on the next edition of the Shippax Magazine
Looks good! Wish I could afford to subscribe to CFI, but at £20 ish per issue its a bit beyond my financial means!
Even though the figures quoted are for full speed, so are the InCat's (OK, there is a 3kn difference in favour of the HSS) so it still shows there is a huge discrepancy in fuel consumption between the InCat catamaran and the HSS.
For those of you on the Ferries of Northern Europe yahoo group, someone purporting to be in the know states that Dieppe Seaways will go to Holyhead with Nordica going to Fishguard when the charter to DFDS (which Stena have taken on) ends towards the end of this year. How much we should read in to it I don't know but those of you who are members might want to keep an eye to the discussion.
Personally I think Dieppe Seaways running from Dublin makes sense (and if they do the same style of conversion as they did on the other Superfast's Cartour Epsilon will not be able to come close on passenger facilities). I also think it is just as likely she will be chartered out to Marine Atlantic or similar. Interestingly (and slightly related) I read in the Shippax Stena History book that Stena Traveller and Trader had originally been earmarked for Belfast to Cairnryan until Marine Atlantic came in to the picture so Stena took the Superfasts on instead after agreeing to charter Traveller and Trader to MA. Things could have looked very different had things been reversed and Marine Atlantic now had Superfast VII VIII and IV all on charter from Tallink (and potentially SF X on charter from Stena)!
Just to add a bit more to the discussion, I remembered about this release from Tallink towards the end of last year:
QuoteTallink Grupp
Company Announcement Charter of Superfast IX
Tallinn, 2013-08-22 08:50 CEST (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- A subsidiary of AS Tallink Grupp, Baltic SF IX Limited and Marine Atlantic Inc, a Canadian company with the state participation therein, have concluded to extend the charter agreement of Superfast IX for one year, until November 2014. Marine Atlantic Inc plans to continue operating the vessel in the Canadian waters under the name of M/S Atlantic Vision.
M/S Superfast IX has been on the long-term bareboat charter since November 14, 2008
http://www.4-traders.com/TALLINK-GRUPP-AS-6498474/news/Tallink-Grupp-AS--Charter-of-Superfast-IX-17209105/
So the other sister is
potentially available from mid November as well. The DFDS charter started in October 2012 so
if it
is in its final year she may be available to Stena in October/November the same time as Atlantic Vision is looking for a new home. Send them to Remontowa for a month or two and we have another pair of Stena Superfast's and the Stena marketing department get all their Christmases at once! Of course this is all a "what if" scenario that I just thought of, but it does bear some thinking about. Where to put them though? ;)
I'm glad someone has put it up here, as I learnt about this on the Dover Forum (though nothing has been confirmed). If it does go ahead, then I think it would be the best option for Stena's future on the Irish Sea.
Although both the Stena Nordica and Dieppe Seaways (apparently to be renamed Stena Endeavour) would need a good refit for their respective routes, complete with an internal refurbishment.
Discussion on the Dover forum has now turned to DFDS' future on the English Channel, which may see them go back just 1 route (Dover-Dunkirk), with the ships being converted to LNG or have then retrofitted with sulphur scrubbers.
The world of speculation is great fun isn't it :)
Thanks to Steven for publishing the fuel consumption figures for the various High Speed Ferries. I had them before but had lost them. Apparently the throttle-back of the HSS 1500 saves about 30-35% in consumption so lets say that Explorer now runs at about 350t/24h. Still a lot obviously but a noticeable difference and running with a decent load makes her a slightly better financial proposition!
The sum I'm trying to do though is to find the point where it would make sense to replace Explorer with Carisma (as has been considered before). Just in the land of speculation of course for this one. Carisma is more expensive to run than Swift for instance (Swift runs at about 180t/24h apparently) but obviously Swift is a bit smaller (about 15% less capacity) and is not so good in terms of trips missed which has to be factored in too! So Carisma would be about 25% less expensive to run than Explorer (a bit more if she was throttled back to 32knots) but obviously provides less capacity at peak times.
Realistically, what I'm trying to explore is the possibility of whether Carisma could double trip in the high season when she would traditionally be very busy (so lets say running at 75% loading per sailing as Explorer does at her busy times) and then being cheap enough to single trip off season when she could fill the gap in the day between conventional sailings and take the dozen or so trucks that need a particular timeslot along with the tourist/leisure trippers.
I think Giftgrub mentioned converting Explorer to LNG before which of course would solve all the problems at a stroke but I just wanted to tease out another option!
Pete
Hhhhmmmm , thinking about it , Stena Nordica would be a good fit for Rosslare - Fishguard without alteration if Stena Carsima were providing the increased passenger capacity during the summer months.
Does the Stena Carisma need specific infrastructure requirements and would Stena really consider operating a summer fast ferry service at Fishguard again?
As for converting the Stena Explorer to LNG, I'm not sure... If they were REALLY serious about it, they would've converted the Discovery and Voyager when they had the chance.
Well that's true the Nordica seemed to do okay at Fishguard and Rosslare, but I was really thinking of her internal accommodation, which would have to be improved.
Quote from: Collision-course on February 22, 2014, 02:40:48 PM
Hhhhmmmm , thinking about it , Stena Nordica would be a good fit for Rosslare - Fishguard without alteration if Stena Carsima were providing the increased passenger capacity during the summer months.
AFAIK there is also scope within Nordica's design for future expansion of her accommodation - I will see if I can find out any more though these things can be quite difficult to find out unless in the industry as I have discovered when researching for my website! Given Stena's track record and the fact they don't take on tonnage that cant be altered (the whole Stenability thing) I'm sure alterations could be made to make her even more suitable. If anything though in some ways she may be too big due to her freight capacity with on excess of 1900 lane metres compare to Europe's 1223.
Regarding Carisma she does need her own infrastructure and crazily IMHO it is different to that used by Explorer.
Quote from: DublinPeter on February 22, 2014, 02:21:58 PM
(Swift runs at about 180t/24h apparently)
Pete
But remember the Swift doesn't run 24 hours a day, she only operates about 8 hours per day, so that would work out at approx 60T/per day if your figures are correct.
I think all the figures are based on how much fuel they would burn if they were running 24 hours. Explorer only runs 5 hours per day so her consumption is a percentage of what she would use in 24 hours etc. I think what the figures show is, relatively speaking, how much more expensive Explorer is to run versus Carisma versus Swift or Lynx. Explorer carries twice the number of passengers that Lynx did so that has to be factored in. Sums are very complicated!
Yes, Carisma needs her own linkspans which doesn't help her saleability! Back when Stena had a full office here I spoke with an engineer who was being asked to examine the viability of the switch and his view was that with relatively modest investment, the Dun Laoghaire and Holyhead linkspans could be altered to accomodate Carisma. Biggest problem is apparently not the ramps, but the locking mechanism which docks a HSS, which is very different to that of a conventional ship or even most fastcraft. The other option at Dun Laoghaire is to alter Berth 5 (the old Lynx berth) with a half linkspan which would slow down loading/unloading (it would be a one way operation) but would be much cheaper.
I think the LPG conversion was a bit tongue in cheek but the technology has changed dramatically in recent years (even since Discovery was withdrawn). Didn't incat just sell a duel fuel cat recently? That one managed 58knots too which would be quite the sales pitch on the Irish sea! Other solution for DL-Holyhead is of course to lease one of the 98m+ fastcraft that are knocking about and build a new brand to replace the HSS one which remember is valuable to Stena in terms of Market Share on the Irish Sea.
Anyone know why the Clipper Pennant is in Gothenburg at one of the Stena berths?
There are numerous Incat 98m fastcats from the mid to late 90's for sale for under 5 million Euro , some similar to Stena Lynx III are for sale for under 3 million Euro.
Clipper Pennant is getting ready to provide relief cover as the Stena Scandinavica is off for a refit in Gdansk at the end of next week, Stena have had the Clipper Pennant sub chartered to a wind farm construction company in the area and one would assume it is doing berthing trials before it and the Ask take up the slack with the Stena Scandinavica away on holidays !
At the moment as things stand the Dieppe Seaways is heading for Dublin and the HSS Stena Explorer while confirmed for 2014 is unlikely to reappear after the summer season if they are going to the trouble of converting a Superfast to run alongside the Adventurer, the Dieppe will require a megabucks rebuild to bring it up to the Stena concept and make the on board configuration work for the route.
The Nordica is all but confirmed for Rosslare in 2015 as well, however the passenger capacity could prove quite limiting during the summer season and at peak travel times, for instance during peak periods when there are 700/800 passengers on board, only half will be able to travel, how many passenger would have been left behind this Christmas as the Oscar Wilde sailings were cancelled and the Europe sailed at near capacity ? However the Nordica could easily be rebuilt offer extra capacity bit this is unlikely to happen. More likely is a change is sailing frequency of bookings are good, they could always move to three return crossings per day, as mentioned many many years ago when the current then nearly new Stena Jutlandica was rumored to be heading to Rosslare.
The HSS900 Stena Carisma is coming nowhere near the Irish Sea and will be sold or scrapped, the same fate will await the Stena Explorer after the summer season as it will be due an expensive drydocking this December and they wont be wasting money, that is unless the price of fuel drops and the HSS sails full all summer long and makes a business case for itself, one thing is for certain is the HSS1500 is going to be the last fastcraft for Stena for a long long time (imagine where they would be if they hadn't taken the HSS route and invested the money in tradtional ferries.)
Of course if Stena RoRo get a good offer for the Dieppe Seaways then it will be chartered out and something else will occur for Dublin.
Stena Vision is currently undergoing an intensive session in drydock in Gdansk which is overrunning at it was expected to end on the 19th.
"Stena Vision will Dry Dock from Monday 3rd of February until 19th of February. Last departure will be 20:30 from Karlskrona 2nd of February and arrive in Gdynia at 09:00 3rd of February. First departure after docking will be 09:00 19th of February.
During this period Stena Baltica will sail on Stena Visions regular Schedule. In order to give you a better service we will also add some extra departures Monday and Friday morning."
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/PublicMessaging/Message.mvc/ViewMessage/fe9995ef-89a9-4900-8513-d1e9789694d8
But now
"
Dear Customer,
Stena Vision dry docking that where planned to be back the 24th will be extended for some days. She will be back in service 21:30 from Gdynia the 27th of February. We have during this period done the same change as we did for the first part of the docking period, Stena Baltica will sail in Stena Visions timetable. Stena Balticas regular departures during this period are canceled. Customers who have been booked on a canceled departure are informed by us with a notification mail, as well as with a new sailing time for the confirmed units."
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/PublicMessaging/Message.mvc/ViewMessage/cec43f44-6679-4f9e-926f-e5e2262fe814
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1980821
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You never know . As regarding the Stena Nordica transfering to the Southern corridor. To make her more suitable for the route . They could give her a facelift. I think I remember when Stena redeployed the Stena Europe on the Fishguard to Rosslare some 12 years ago Not many were too happy about her being used on the route. But after giving her a major refit. In the end it pay off. As she performed well during the pass years. As long as the ferry is carrying good loadings then Stena will reconsider whats best for the route. It depends how many are using the route. Thats my view about this.
Yes I remember John Hendy being very sceptical about the Europe coming to Rosslare, with a £2 million refit. I remember him remarking that £2 million "would barely paint half of the ship."
Well given what Stena have done at Birkenhead, I think they would almost certainly do the same to the Nordica and spruce her up a fair bit, should she move.
Thank you Giftgrub, I knew you would know :). If the Explorer is going to go within the next 18 months, I better book my ticket to sail on her ASAP.
Don't think it has been mentioned but Dieppe Seaways is currently at Remontowa, sitting beside her possible future fleetmate Stena Vision in the drydock occupied by Pont Aven until recently. Remontowa have been busy lately! I expect Jakub Boguki will have pics shortly!
Look at you knocking down my idle speculation with all your facts Giftgrub ;) Still though, things tend to change pretty quickly in this business so lets see what happens. I'd like to think that Dun Laoghaire will maintain at least a seasonal service in the medium term and thankfully at this stage, there seems to be a desire/willingness at Stena for that to happen.
So much of what happens there is dependent not just on the price of fuel, but on the far larger expense for a shipping company and that is manpower. The current situation on the Irish Sea (and possibly elsewhere, I don't have knowledge of other areas) sees vessel running costs being quite similar, but manpower costs being so much higher on the Stena side due to the maintenance of a generally UK/Irish crew. Personally, that's not something I would like to see changing (given the high quality of onboard crew that Stena have) but by year end, things could be very different.
Having seen Fishguard's figures for the past few months its hard to see how Stena could justify any significant investment in Nordica. She has more than enough Freight capacity and from a business point of view is it really worth increased year round costs to satisfy seasonal peaks of passengers who are going to pay the lowest fare possible anyway? More passenger facilities = more crew and remember there will be more capacity at Holyhead to soak up any overspill. There's a bigger picture to think of as well and without giving anything away this could be more viable than initially meets the eye. Running Nordica at higher speed however is likely to eliminate any cost savings gained in the first place though.
Regarding Stena's crewing nothing has happened yet but the company know their local crews are an asset but like any business manpower is a major cost. HR costs can make or break any company (unless you are subsidised by the French state ;) )
IF explorer does operate next year I'm pretty sure it will be her last. Her costs are still quite eye watering especially given her lack of flexibility. She's also nearing her 20th birthday so costs are only going to climb now.The costs required for any conversion would be very hard to justify given her age, particularly for a company striving to become more efficient. The superfasts are highly marketable and the HSS is all but forgotten in Belfast by Joe public.
EDIT: Should also add that Fishguard - Rosslare figures for both December and January show passenger numbers are down on last year. Explorers figures yoy can only be described as awful!
Quote from: Steven on February 23, 2014, 01:16:05 PM
Having seen Fishguard's figures for the past few months its hard to see how Stena could justify any significant investment in Nordica. She has more than enough Freight capacity and from a business point of view is it really worth increased year round costs to satisfy seasonal peaks of passengers who are going to pay the lowest fare possible anyway? More passenger facilities = more crew and remember there will be more capacity at Holyhead to soak up any overspill. There's a bigger picture to think of as well and without giving anything away this could be more viable than initially meets the eye. Running Nordica at higher speed however is likely to eliminate any cost savings gained in the first place though.
Regarding Stena's crewing nothing has happened yet but the company know their local crews are an asset but like any business manpower is a major cost. HR costs can make or break any company (unless you are subsidised by the French state ;) )
IF explorer does operate next year I'm pretty sure it will be her last. Her costs are still quite eye watering especially given her lack of flexibility. She's also nearing her 20th birthday so costs are only going to climb now.The costs required for any conversion would be very hard to justify given her age, particularly for a company striving to become more efficient. The superfasts are highly marketable and the HSS is all but forgotten in Belfast by Joe public.
EDIT: Should also add that Fishguard - Rosslare figures for both December and January show passenger numbers are down on last year. Explorers figures yoy can only be described as awful!
The Rosslare - Fishguard/Pembroke stats have been pretty scary for a few years now. Looked at coldly, there is realistically no business case for two operators on pretty similar routes there particularly in the off season where both are almost totally reliant on freight traffic. Nordica is a good compromise solution though if Rosslare-Fishguard is to be maintained for market share purposes.
I'm not too sure about the Explorer figures you quote Steven - the DOT figures for throughput at Dun Laoghaire are pretty similar for 2012 and 2013 from what I can see. Obviously way down on past years though, the seasonal single tripping and uncertainty going back to 2009 has really hurt the route and damaged it's viability. I tend to agree that Explorer is in her final days (a great shame IMHO) but I'm not sure the same goes for the route. Remember, that even with the extra capacity IF still run (occasionally!) Swift twice a day all year round for the tourist market and as I mention so often, to maintain market share! I know the operator and the harbour company have been talking here - hope something comes of it!
Interesting debate as always.
A number of things occur to me:
* Would it actually be realistic to operate three sailings each way Rosslare-Fishguard with any conventional vessel? Based on a 3-hour crossing and a 1-hour turn around at each port it is possible on paper but in practice would it work? There would be zero recovery time for bad weather/high traffic volumes etc... That said perhaps it would work on certain days in Summer e.g. weekends. The routine sailings would need to be the same time each day with the additional sailings built around the routine schedule.
* While there may be spare capacity at Holyhead which will soak up some overspill, I don't think it is a good strategy to consider Dublin-Holyhead as being the solution for soaking up all overspill. Dublin/Dun Laoghaire-Holyhead and Rosslare-Fishguard link geographically different areas of Ireland and Britain and someone choosing to use Rosslare whether motorist, haulage firm or rail passenger is doing so because the route best lends itself for where s/he wants to go.
* Nothing wrong with the Stena Nordica, she does the job but would be a "step-down" in what Rosslare-Fishguard are used to. That said I'd much rather see her than no ship at all on the link. It is good to see Stena Line persevering and being able to meet the needs of diverse sections of the customer base. I don't doubt that the Southern Corridor can build itself up strongly but it won't happen overnight.
* Could a Superfast on Dun Laoghaire-Holyhead possibly see the restoration of a year-round link or is the issue of too many large vehicles/trucks around the Dun Laoghaire locality likely to be a precluding factor? It's hard to believe the Stena Explorer will be on the link 18 years this April. Remember in the early days the station platform would be thronged around HSS arrival time and there was even a DART boat train from Connolly at 0555 out to connect with the 0640 to Holyhead. How times have changed.
Quote from: DublinPeter on February 23, 2014, 02:34:55 PM
Quote from: Steven on February 23, 2014, 01:16:05 PM
Having seen Fishguard's figures for the past few months its hard to see how Stena could justify any significant investment in Nordica. She has more than enough Freight capacity and from a business point of view is it really worth increased year round costs to satisfy seasonal peaks of passengers who are going to pay the lowest fare possible anyway? More passenger facilities = more crew and remember there will be more capacity at Holyhead to soak up any overspill. There's a bigger picture to think of as well and without giving anything away this could be more viable than initially meets the eye. Running Nordica at higher speed however is likely to eliminate any cost savings gained in the first place though.
Regarding Stena's crewing nothing has happened yet but the company know their local crews are an asset but like any business manpower is a major cost. HR costs can make or break any company (unless you are subsidised by the French state ;) )
IF explorer does operate next year I'm pretty sure it will be her last. Her costs are still quite eye watering especially given her lack of flexibility. She's also nearing her 20th birthday so costs are only going to climb now.The costs required for any conversion would be very hard to justify given her age, particularly for a company striving to become more efficient. The superfasts are highly marketable and the HSS is all but forgotten in Belfast by Joe public.
EDIT: Should also add that Fishguard - Rosslare figures for both December and January show passenger numbers are down on last year. Explorers figures yoy can only be described as awful!
The Rosslare - Fishguard/Pembroke stats have been pretty scary for a few years now. Looked at coldly, there is realistically no business case for two operators on pretty similar routes there particularly in the off season where both are almost totally reliant on freight traffic. Nordica is a good compromise solution though if Rosslare-Fishguard is to be maintained for market share purposes.
I'm not too sure about the Explorer figures you quote Steven - the DOT figures for throughput at Dun Laoghaire are pretty similar for 2012 and 2013 from what I can see. Obviously way down on past years though, the seasonal single tripping and uncertainty going back to 2009 has really hurt the route and damaged it's viability. I tend to agree that Explorer is in her final days (a great shame IMHO) but I'm not sure the same goes for the route. Remember, that even with the extra capacity IF still run (occasionally!) Swift twice a day all year round for the tourist market and as I mention so often, to maintain market share! I know the operator and the harbour company have been talking here - hope something comes of it!
OK, so these are the figures from Shippax which come from Stena themselves for Dun Laoghaire - Holyhead
Last year Dec 2012-Jan 2013 (24 trips) - average per crossing:
Pax = 576
Cars = 171
Coaches = 0
Trucks = 0.38
This year per trip - Dec-Jan (18 crossings)
Pax = 462
Cars = 135
Coaches = 0.88
Trucks = 0.33
So you have an average of less than 500 passengers per crossing and a decrease of around 40% (total figures) in both passengers and cars. Any company that can sustain those sort of figures has bottomless pockets or headed the same way as TransEuropa, etc.
Rosslare - Fishguard figures are not much better tbh, last summer the average load was 430 pax in July and 560 in August so there isn't the need for a 1400 pax vessel (or the associated costs) . At the moment Nordica has only space for 400 passengers, but it wouldn't take a lot from what I understand to find the space to expand that number. In the process she could be freshened up inside a little and you have a decent wee economical workhorse of a ship which could serve the link for many years to come (and take over Europe's refit relief duties when required as well). With numbers like those its hard to see why any company would want to run her at max speed (and take a big hit in costs as a result, remember the increase in fuel used as opposed speed gained is far from linear).
Regarding Dun Laoghaire I think its time is up. There wouldn't be much point in Stena paying to maintain and man 2 facilities so close to each other to serve similar ferries to the same destination. The only reason Stena are still there is that the infrastructure for Explorer is already in place. However if Nordica where replaced with Dieppe Seaways or similar the extra capacity would more than cover Explorers poor carrying's when she does run and still cost less to run. With the current cost cutting going on, this is exactly the type of "luxury" operation which is under threat.
If the Superfast goes to Dublin the Explorer will be finished, there is no business case for running the HSS if they have two large conventional ferries.
What the Nordica would allow in Rosslare is the chance of an extra round trip if the bookings justify it, it has the speed and on busy summer weekends, it may be justifiable, they will need to increase passenger capacity though before it transfers or they will be running Sold Out on quite a few days, last September there were 8 or 9 coaches on a crossing along with about 100 cars, can the Nordica take this much at the moment ?, would need to be able to carry around 700/800 to cater with max demand.
Here is an image of the Dieppe Seaways in Gdasnk for refit with DFDS for the last time ? (not looking its best)
Have had a chance to look at the figures for Rosslare - Fishguard in December and they make interesting reading when compared to Dublin- Holyhead
On passengers carried
Rosslare - 16,228 on 67 crossings av pass per trip - 242
Dublin - 57,033 on 222 crossings av pas per trip - 256
On Cars Carried
Rosslare - 4,953 on 67 crossings av cars per trip - 74
Dublin - 14,560 on 222 crossings av cars per trip - 66
On Freight
Rosslare - 1,194 on 67 crossings av freight per trip - 18
Dublin - 14,447 on 222 crossings av freight per trip - 65
Obviously freight is where the money is made and the figures ex Rosslare for freight are appalling, however when you look at the self loading freight (passengers and cars) its not as big a difference as one would first think.
For January 2014 however
Passengers
Rosslare - 12,960 - 112 trips - avg 116 per trip
Dublin - 44,077 - 246 trips - avg 179 per trip
Cars
Rosslare - 3,802 - 112 trips - avg 34
Dublin - 11,716 - 246 trips - avg 48
Freight
Rosslare - 2,784 - 112 - avg 25
Dublin - 16,123 - 246 - avg 66
and as a comparison with the North Channel Superfast operation for Jan
Pass 53,985 - trips 348 - Avg - 155
Cars 13,295 - trips 348 - Avg - 38
Freight 16,166 - trips 348 - Avg - 46
While the average figure is not 100% as it excludes peak operations the obvious area in need of work is freight for the Rosslare service and as the only port with a direct rail connection it should be able to get a greater % of passengers.
Some more images of the Stena RoRo owned Dieppe Seaways undergoing refit in Gdansk.
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1980822
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1979147
Quote from: giftgrub on February 23, 2014, 09:22:42 PM
Some more images of the Stena RoRo owned Dieppe Seaways undergoing refit in Gdansk.
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1980822
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1979147
Thanks giftgrub. Perhaps her last as a Dover-Calais ship by the sounds of things!
The Dieppe Seaways has received a full hull repaint in Gdansk.
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1982686
Came across this interesting little tribute to the Stena Nordica's time on the Rosslare - Fishguard service in 2008, according to rumours it won't be long before if becomes a permanent fixture in Rosslare.
http://stenanordica.rosslare-europort.com/
Also great image of the Europe and Nordica together on this link, very well taken by Ronnie Roberts.
http://www.sealink-holyhead.net/#!stena-nordica/cddf
http://www.sealink-holyhead.net/#!Stena-Europe-Stena-Nordica/zoom/cb3g/image21xp
Some brilliant images of the Stena Lagans MES system being tested on Scott Mackeys excellent Flickr Site,
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157625811741177/
and plenty of images of the Stena Nordica here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157623457104848/
Didnt aee this on here yet
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Stena Europe delayed by storm
25 FEBRUARY 2014
THE Stena Europe cruise ferry operating between Fishguard and Rosslare was delayed by around three hours as yet another storm lashed the Wexford coast on Sunday.
However, port captain Aedan Jameson said Sunday's weather was nothing like the fierce gales experienced the previous week, which forced the harbour to close.
'It was just normal bad weather,' he said.
He said the stronng winds on Sunday meant the Stena Europe had trouble berthing at the Europort on Sunday morning which had a knock on effect on later services.
The Irish Ferries' ship, the more powerful Isle of Innishmore, was not as badly affected.
'They both made up time and were back on schedule this morning (Monday),' said Captain Jameson.
He said another 'blow' was expected later on Monday night.
'It will be a short, sharp one and could last between 12 and 15 hours.' he said
http://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexfordpeople/news/ferry-was-delayed-by-storm-30039821.html (http://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexfordpeople/news/ferry-was-delayed-by-storm-30039821.html)
There is a search currently on outside Harwich for 2 people believed to have jumped from Stena Britannica
http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/felixstowe_harwich_rescue_teams_search_north_sea_for_two_people_believed_to_have_fallen_from_passenger_ferry_1_3366506]]http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/felixstowe_harwich_rescue_teams_search_north_sea_for_two_people_believed_to_have_fallen_from_passenger_ferry_1_3366506 (//http://)
Quote from: giftgrub on February 23, 2014, 09:22:42 PM
Some more images of the Stena RoRo owned Dieppe Seaways undergoing refit in Gdansk.
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1980822
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1979147
I would have pulled the plug on Fishguard-Rosslare a long time ago and moved south. I am sure there is a market for a Bristol to Cork service, both are large population centres with good road and rail infrastructure. I was looking at the Port of Bristol's website recently and there is more than adequate space to build a ferry terminal on the Avon, and the Severn Bridge is close enough to pull the traffic in from South Wales. Cork has just been awarded the EU grant to rebuild the port, so why waste time with Fishguard, where there is never going to be the kind of road upgrade they need to bring in the freight needed to keep it going? Reading the Stena Line book, it was amazing how Pim de Lange (Hook of Holland supremo) had to persuade the main Stena board to open the Killingholme route. They all thought that it would rob customers from Harwich, but he proved that there was a market in place in the North of England for a new service. Fourteen years on they are on the third generation of new ships. I'm sure the same would apply around Bristol and the south-west.
As for acquiring Celtic Link, there is already a market there which is why they have bought it and it's good to see Stena with a foothold back in France. The existence of the service to Fishguard was, I'm sure, entirely coincidental to the acquisiton.
Great news about the Dieppe Seaways at Holyhead too; I have had a gut feeling since the demise of SeaFrance that Stena would acquire it sooner or later, it's too good a proposition to ignore.
Having been out of the country for a week, it's great to come back and read some good news.
Matt
As posted in the Celtic Link takeover thread, I have heard Superfast X/Dieppe Seaways is confirmed internally in Stena for Dublin - Holyhead in lieu of both Nordica and Explorer. Stena will pull out of Dun Laoghaire altogether and Europe will move on (not confirmed as such but hard to see anything else happening now!).
Any word on when she'd move, especially given that DFDS have given her a repaint and look set to operate her until about October.
Quote from: mrwtho07 on February 26, 2014, 11:00:20 PM
Any word on when she'd move, especially given that DFDS have given her a repaint and look set to operate her until about October.
She would need to be refurbished obviously so will probably be 2015 given the time taken for the other pair to be converted at Remontowa. Someone on facebook said Stena's engineers have had a look over her while she is in drydock ATM but cannot verify this myself. However if she is to be converted like VII/VIII she's in the right yard at the moment so they could do a lot of the planning work now. The repaint would have been booked months ago so not an indicator of anything long term as some seem to think it may be. Are double deck trailers allowed in Ireland btw? A lot of the complexity around VII/VIII's conversion was releasing enough free height on the upper vehicle deck to allow these to be carried, though regardless I think they would probably do this anyway in order to make her as flexible as possible.
Its good to see a company investing in services rather than cutting though!
i think rosslare has plenty of potential for both cargo and passenger routes but this would require certain investment and most importantly the people in control of the harbour now would need to be sacked, theyve sabotaged the place for long enough
Interesting images of the newest addition to the Stena RoRo fleet and one of the oldest member of the Stena Fleet in Gdansk today. Obviously the Dieppe Seaways and Stena Vision.
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1984869
Stena Vision
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1984831
Plenty of images of the Stena Scandinavica arriving in Gdansk for refit:
https://www.facebook.com/jakub.bogucki/media_set?set=a.827378077289067.1073741847.100000506486027&type=1
https://www.facebook.com/jakub.bogucki/posts/827922113901330
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1985705
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1985704
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1985703
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1985701
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1985700
and alongside Stena RoRos Dieppe Seaways
https://www.facebook.com/jakub.bogucki/posts/827924347234440
Dieppe Seaways now back in Calais since 22.30 this evening and expected to return to service for DFDS in the morning untill the DFDS charter expires in November 2014.
Image below from Jakub Bogucki's Facebook
Images of the freshly painted Stena RoRo owned Dieppe Seaways in Dover at the bottom of the page on this link. The former Superfast X is expected to replace the Stena Nordica on the Dublin - Holyhead service in Spring 2015..
http://www.doverferryphotosforums.co.uk/mv-seafrance-moliere-past-and-present/
Some interesting background info on the Hoa Sen - Stena RoRo's Stena Egeria
http://www.tradewindsnews.com/weekly/332365/stena-roro-buys-troubled-ropax-ferry-from-vinalines
A controversial vessel said to have played a major role in the downfall of Vinashin Ocean Shipping is heading for a new career under Swedish ownership
Vietnamese state-owned shipping conglomerate Vinalines has finally managed to offload the controversial 24,400-gt ropax ferry Hoa Sen (built 2001) — and well-placed sources close to Stena RoRo say the Swedish company has sealed a deal to acquire the ship.
Vinalines inherited the Hoa Sen when it was forced to take over bankrupt compatriot Vinashin Ocean Shipping. It is the last of seven arrested vessels that Vinalines has been attempting to sell as Vinashin Ocean's operations are being wound down ahead of it being closed down.
No pricing details have been made public but TradeWinds is told Stena RoRo scooped a bargain.
The sale brings to a close a particularly grim episode in the history of Vietnamese shipping. The Hoa Sen is widely regarded as playing a significant role in Vinashin Ocean's downfall. The company bought the ship in 2007 for EUR 60m (then $87m) as part of a plan to launch a luxury cruise ferry service along the Vietnamese coast.
Two even larger cruise ferries were acquired shortly afterwards from Italian interests. The deal was later called off, forcing Vinashin Ocean to forfeit hefty deposits it had already put down.
The Hoa Sen's trading career under Vietnamese ownership was notably brief as it only managed to complete a handful of voyages before growing losses caused the service to be abandoned.
The ship has largely been laid up ever since. In recent years, it has been languishing under arrest in China after a brief charter to a Chinese operator ended in acrimonious circumstances.
Restoration planned
Stena RoRo plans to restore the ship in a Chinese shipyard before returning it to service under the name Stena Egeria. The vessel is described as being in reasonable mechanical condition but in need of a lot of painting and cleaning.
The ship is deemed a perfect fit for Stena RoRo, which has been looking for modern, economical vessels that can easily be converted to run on methanol or be retrofitted with scrubbers to meet European emissions regulations that come into effect next year.
The Hoa Sen fits the bill as it is powered by two MAN Diesel & Turbo medium-speed main engines and has a relatively spacious casing and funnel that can accommodate scrubbing equipment. It is one of a large class of ropax ferries built in Italy by Visentini Cantiere.
The vessel type appears to be a favourite of Stena RoRo, which recently bought two others, the Trinacria and Partenope (both built 2002), from TTT Lines of Italy in an en-bloc deal worth EUR 48m ($65m). The pair have been chartered back to TTT Lines.
http://www.vietnambreakingnews.com/2013/09/troubled-vinalines-leaves-crew-members-high-and-dry-in-china/#.Uxj_kT9_vKM
Crew members aboard a boat owned by Vietnam's troubled state-run shipping firm Vinalines have been stuck in China for months and are complaining about poor living conditions and a lack of basic necessities.
The Hoa Sen boat has been anchored at a shipyard in Zhejiang Province without fuel, food or fresh water for the past two months.
Its crew members said in an email to news website VnExpress they want the government to allow them to go home.
The boat has no lights at night and it's located in a "dangerous" location where many boats pass, VnExpress reported Monday, citing the email.
Crew members have not received money for food from the boat's owner – Vinashinlines, a subsidiary of the Vietnam National Shipping Lines (Vinalines) – and they are all out of their own money.
"Sometimes we have to pick vegetables from the mountain and catch fish and crabs," the email said.
They only have around 30 liters of fresh water, and they have stopped bathing.
They had worked on the boat for 13 months by the end of October but have only gotten paid for two months, said the crew members, all of whom have families to feed back home.
The Hoa Sen (Lotus) Ship was transferred to Vinalines from shipbuilder Vinashin, which nearly went bankrupt after piling up debts of $4.5 billion in 2010.
It was one of the five bad investments that put eight Vinashin officials in jail. The former board chairman had his 20-year sentence upheld at an appeal in August.
The used, Italian-made high-speed seagoing vessel was bought for $87.8 million in 2007. But it caused operational losses of $22.5 million and was docked in 2009 after 39 north-south trips.
http://saigon-today.blogspot.ie/2009/10/vinashin-hoa-sen-in-cam-ranh-bay.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+SaigonToday+(saigon+today)
http://talkvietnam.com/2012/10/shipbuilder-vinashin-struggles-to-regain-footing-as-revenues-plunge/#.UxkCCj9_vKM
and if this is accurate, it could explain the long time in drydock
http://www.vietnambreakingnews.com/2013/03/old-cargo-ships-pose-environmental-issues-for-authorities/#.UxkCez9_vKM
The Hoa Sen (Lotus) Ship, operating under Vinashinlines, lies idle in port due to a crack in her hull. Over 40 cargo ships are in a similar situation nationwide because the current law on environmental protection doesn't allow them to be scrapped. — VNA/VNS Photo
Don't understand the bit about 40 ships being in that condition as they weren't allowed to be scrapped. Hoa Sen is way too young to be scrapped for a start. TBH she is probably in very poor condition internally given the humidity out there and the length of time she was idle. Came across this article from 2011 which mentions cracks in her hull being repaired In 2008.
QuoteWhen ill fate sinks the titan lotus
Posted on OCTOBER 1, 2011 Written by TUOITRENEWS
There is nothing to be proud of US$67 million Hoa Sen (lotus) ship formerly owned by the beleaguered state-run Vinashin with its shameful history including stopping operation after a short time, getting detained in Korea and currently docking dormant in China.
The Hoa Sen shipPhoto: Tuoi TreThe Hoa Sen shipPhoto: Tuoi Tre
Even when the ship is now doing nothing at a port in China, it still continues its loss-making saga every day by incurring massive expenses on crew wages, docking, insurance and machinery maintenance fees, and a daily depreciation of as many as $11,000.
Purchased from Italy in 2007 by troubled state-owned shipbuilder Vinashin, Hoa Sen ship soon had to go under maintenance in December 2008 after just 40 trips between northern Quang Ninh Province and southern Ho Chi Minh City due to cracks found at the bottom.
The ship's ownership was then transferred to Vinalines, another state-run shipping firm as part of the restructure process at Vinashin as ordered by the government, following its failure in clearing the massive debt of VND86.6 trillion ($4.33 billion).
From April 2009, the ship was docked at Cam Ranh Bay in Vietnam's Khanh Hoa Province until last February, when it left for China under a leasing contract inked between Vinalines and China-based Lianyungang CK Ferry Co Ltd with the daily rent of $16,500.
This shed a beam of hope for the revitalization of this titanic ship, but not for long.
Seized in Korea
Just three months later, the ship was detained to serve as a collateral at a port in Korea over a $4-million debt that Vinashin Lines owed to Singapore-based GMS Marine.
Vinalines said the detention came after Vinashinlines failed to clear a $4.15-million bail for a lawsuit with GMS Marine.
The Singaporean shipping company then demanded a 'fee' of $6.5 million to release the ship.
A Vinalines' top official told Tuoi Tre that the company had negotiated to get the ship back, but he "did not know how much Vinalines had spent on the task."
Yet Vinashinlines has lost more than just that $6.5 million.
The detention in Korea has caused Hoa Sen ship to lose its leasing contract with Lianyungang CK Ferry due to a clause in the contract stating that the deal could be canceled in case the ship stops operating for 15 consecutive days.
Bui Quoc Anh, Vinalines' deputy general director, confirmed with Tuoi Tre that the contract had been canceled, adding the ship is doing nothing in China's Lianyungang port since last May.
The lost contract dealt a loss of $2.4-million to Vinashin Lines.
Vinalines said it had been seeking the government's approval to put the ship on sale while also searching for partners to lease it.
http://talkvietnam.com/2011/10/when-ill-fate-sinks-the-titan-lotus/
I think we have a ferry even more cursed than Stena Allegra!
Here's an interesting thought , what if Stena Nordica is not replacing Stena Europe but is instead replacing Celtic Horizon , which would instead Replace the Stena Europe at Fishguard , passenger capacities of both Stena Nordica and Celtic Horizon suit both routes better with Stena Nordica doing Rosslare - Cherbourg and Celtic Horizon doing Rosslare - Fishguard.
Quote from: Collision-course on March 07, 2014, 09:13:29 PM
Here's an interesting thought , what if Stena Nordica is not replacing Stena Europe but is instead replacing Celtic Horizon , which would instead Replace the Stena Europe at Fishguard , passenger capacities of both Stena Nordica and Celtic Horizon suit both routes better with Stena Nordica doing Rosslare - Cherbourg and Celtic Horizon doing Rosslare - Fishguard.
With Inishmore moving to Dublin to replace Swift and Epsilon and Epsilon moving to Rosslare - Pembroke, may not be a milion miles away from whats going to happen for 2015 !
Exactly what I said when the news of SF X's likely destination first broke. Nordica has already proved herself running to France, although Horizon perhaps has too much cabin accommodation for Fishguard. The cabin block on the main passenger deck could be knocked through without too much difficulty from what I can see which would free up some further space for passenger facilities, though there is no lift access to the cabins on the deck above AFAIK. Whatever happens Horizon is likely to be retained and refurbished rather than sold on.
However Inishmore to Dublin is very likely IMHO if SF X does go to Dublin which would allow Swift to retire (her lack of freight capability has to be a handicap and passengers and cars aren't the money makers they used to be). She would be a more equal running partner to the big U and if I'm honest I think she is wasted down at Rosslare. The question for me is whether IF would put Epsilon on the Pembroke run or the France run.
Quote from: giftgrub on March 07, 2014, 09:54:53 PM
Quote from: Collision-course on March 07, 2014, 09:13:29 PM
Here's an interesting thought , what if Stena Nordica is not replacing Stena Europe but is instead replacing Celtic Horizon , which would instead Replace the Stena Europe at Fishguard , passenger capacities of both Stena Nordica and Celtic Horizon suit both routes better with Stena Nordica doing Rosslare - Cherbourg and Celtic Horizon doing Rosslare - Fishguard.
With Inishmore moving to Dublin to replace Swift and Epsilon and Epsilon moving to Rosslare - Pembroke, may not be a milion miles away from whats going to happen for 2015 !
Is the IOI moving to Dublin, or is this just a rumour??
Quote from: MAKman on March 08, 2014, 09:44:50 AM
Quote from: giftgrub on March 07, 2014, 09:54:53 PM
Quote from: Collision-course on March 07, 2014, 09:13:29 PM
Here's an interesting thought , what if Stena Nordica is not replacing Stena Europe but is instead replacing Celtic Horizon , which would instead Replace the Stena Europe at Fishguard , passenger capacities of both Stena Nordica and Celtic Horizon suit both routes better with Stena Nordica doing Rosslare - Cherbourg and Celtic Horizon doing Rosslare - Fishguard.
With Inishmore moving to Dublin to replace Swift and Epsilon and Epsilon moving to Rosslare - Pembroke, may not be a milion miles away from whats going to happen for 2015 !
Is the IOI moving to Dublin, or is this just a rumour??
Interesting if it happened, would the IOI need more cabins for the French run? wonder if could you put them accommodation block onto the deck area down aft where the glass seating area is. Any idea how long it would take the IOI to do a Dublin - Cherbourg run?
As it stands the Epsilon could not take a full Swift sailing & is not geared for foot passenger or coach groups. IOI would be a better running alongside Ulysses as she was built for Dublin - Holyhead route. Even for dry docking in January no need to move vessels all you need to do is suspend the IOI normal run Dublin- Holyhead/Cherbourg run.
I think someone mentioned that the IOI has more cabins than the Epsilon.
They could possibly convert the Veranda area to reclining seats with some sort of electric blind that is closed at night.
Another Big factor that must be taken in to consideration and I know both stena and Irish ferries will is fuel . What ships are mor economical to send to France?? Nordica or Celtic horizon. Inishmore or epsilon . I bet the two Italian vessels would win hands down.
As we are in the 3rd mouth of 2014. We hear and read about the changes that is going to happen in 2015 as regarding Stena line & Irish ferries. At this moment lets get over 2014 first. Because anything could happen in the next 10 mouths. As Stena line could be looking for other tonage in the mean time, we never know. Right now to my opinon if the Horizon or Epsilon was ever use on the southern corridor they wouldn,t be ideal for the 2 routes as they are only stern loaders. So it would take longer to load or discharge cargo. And as Pembroke and Rosslare have double deck ramps too. Irish ferries wants to make use of them. I would like to asked someone on this site what are the loading like on the Pembroke to Rosslare, does that route carry very good loadings.
Quote from: Ian Brazil on March 09, 2014, 12:19:33 AM
As we are in the 3rd mouth of 2014. We hear and read about the changes that is going to happen in 2015 as regarding Stena line & Irish ferries. At this moment lets get over 2014 first. Because anything could happen in the next 10 mouths. As Stena line could be looking for other tonage in the mean time, we never know. Right now to my opinon if the Horizon or Epsilon was ever use on the southern corridor they wouldn,t be ideal for the 2 routes as they are only stern loaders. So it would take longer to load or discharge cargo. And as Pembroke and Rosslare have double deck ramps too. Irish ferries wants to make use of them. I would like to asked someone on this site what are the loading like on the Pembroke to Rosslare, does that route carry very good loadings.
Whilst I don't have any current figures to hand, general consensus seems to be that if either Irish Ferries or Stena where to close their Rosslare to Wales route the remaining ship would be able to cope with the carryings of both routes for most of the year (especially if that ship was IoI).
Getting this forum back on track .... With regards to Superfast VII and VIII, In addition to the maintenance already undertaken on VII a couple of weekends ago and her second upcoming weekend off (below) 22-25 March, Stena Superfast VIII will be off service at the layover berth at Loch Ryan Port from 0200-1500hrs on Sunday 30th March. Her final trip will be the 2330 ex Belfast on Saturday 29th until she resumes with the 1530 ex Cairnryan on Sunday.
And the former Superfast X will be joining the Irish Sea Stena Line Fleet before the end of 2014.
EDIT: Duplicate of giftgrub's last post..
Quote from: giftgrub on March 09, 2014, 01:37:21 PM
Getting this forum back on track .... With regards to Superfast VII and VIII, In addition to the maintenance already undertaken on VII a couple of weekends ago and her second upcoming weekend off (below) 22-25 March, Stena Superfast VIII will be off service at the layover berth at Loch Ryan Port from 0200-1500hrs on Sunday 30th March. Her final trip will be the 2330 ex Belfast on Saturday 29th until she resumes with the 1530 ex Cairnryan on Sunday.
And the former Superfast X will be joining the Irish Sea Stena Line Fleet before the end of 2014.
The topic only drifted off track because of your post that the IOI and Epsilon are changing over positions. The next few posts were discussing the pro's / cons of such a move.
As with all forums the topics do tend to drift, it happens live with it or don't post things that will cause the topic to drift.
Also you haven't answered the question about the IOI and Epsilon being rumour or fact.
Sorry did not realise the words forum back on track were so offensive my bad ( intention was to post fleet info thats all)
Of course inishmore / Epsilon switch is a rumour but if the Superfast X is going to Dublin and the Swift is liklely to be withdrawn then it makes sense to switch them to maximise capacity in Dublin I dont expect IF to do nothing about Stenas increase in capacity and service quality.
Untill Stena and Irish Ferries confirm their intentions its all just rumours.
Whilst the withdrawal of the Explorer has been well-flagged and expected for a long time, replacing it and the Nordica with a Superfast and focusing solely on Dublin Port is risky unless the Superfast can match or come close to the Explorer's current journey time.
IF were very quick to ensure their Swift was only performing one round trip for a very limited time back in 2009/10 when oil prices peaked, so I'd be very surprised if their response to the withdrawal of the Explorer was a total withdrawal of the Swift too.
If both fast ferries disappeared next year it would do nothing to enhance the ferry tourist trade. Two pairs of slow ferries following each other across the central channel to the same destination is not offering much choice for the consumer.
Fast Ferrry Fan (and others!),
I think Giftgrub is right in what he says "Until Stena and Irish Ferries confirm their intentions its all just rumours."
We've all made assumptions based on a possible sequence of events that may take place later in the year/early 2015. Some are very likely and others are pure conjecture on our part. I would venture to say that only the likely arrival of Dieppe Seaways would be worth taking to the bank at this stage. Anything else (ship or port related), even stuff being posted as "very likely" is pure (educated!) speculation. I include myself in this too by the way!
For now (remembering the title of the thread!), it's as you were until further notice :)
Pete
Some cool images of the Stena Scandinavica in drydock alongside the Victoria Seaways, I know the Scandinavica is big, but it looks huge alongside the DFDS vessel.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=834776759882532&set=pcb.834777919882416&type=1&theater
Looking forward to seeing the mighty Stena Explorer back on the Irish Sea in four weeks time, 9th April.
Does anybody know why Stena are introducing an earlier departure time from Dublin from March 30th? The Adventurer currently departs at 21:15, but from March 30th she will depart 45 mins earlier at 20:30 and take an extra 15 mins to sail to Holyhead.
I'm also looking forward to seeing the Stena HSS back in service from 9th April, but with all the talk about this being her last year in service? I do believe this is true, judging by the Facebook posts Stena keep posting.
Stena are tweaking the Stena Hibernia schedule with it now expected to remain in Belfast from Friday afternoon until Monday. Her first sailing of the week will be 1500 ex Belfast on a Monday instead of 0300 from Birkenhead
For those that missed it in the other thread, Stena have stopped offering non-landing trips on all services. It is still possible to do a day return at a reduced rate but you have to disembark when the ship reaches port (and remember to get back on again).
Should also mention I am having to access the site from my phone again due to technical issues so won't be much from me for a while.
thats a drag, i hate having to get off, why have they done this?
Quote from: larry on March 17, 2014, 07:05:46 PM
thats a drag, i hate having to get off, why have they done this?
Officially I haven't a clue, but I'm sure its a right PITA having to do a turnaround with all the cleaning etc that goes with it and having people getting in the way/making more mess!
Edit: there used to be a documentary on YouTube which showed the crew during turnaround on one of the cross channel ferries but can find it. Think it was P&O as pretty sure it was in English (there are seafrance ones in French which are good apart from the French)
Looks like the technical problem is fixed!
Quote from: Steven on March 17, 2014, 09:32:26 PM
Quote from: larry on March 17, 2014, 07:05:46 PM
thats a drag, i hate having to get off, why have they done this?
Edit: there used to be a documentary on YouTube which showed the crew during turnaround on one of the cross channel ferries but can find it. Think it was P&O as pretty sure it was in English (there are seafrance ones in French which are good apart from the French)
Here you go! Bit shorter than the French one, but much more understandable
P&O Ferries Spirit of Britain on Channel 5's Supe...: http://youtu.be/FxjCZfPjzKA
Both European Highlander and Stena Superfast VII where off service today at Harland and Wolff shipyard. Whilst the Stena maintenance had been planned, European Highlander suffered serious technical problems towards the end of last week and so was drydocked this morning. This has meant North Channel services to both Cairnryan ports have operated at half capacity. P&O's Express Catermaran is also at Harland and Wolff being readied for her planned return to service At the end of the month.
Stena Hibernia left Belfast laden this evening just after 7:30pm bound for Cairnryan in order to move trailer traffic across the channel and I assume she will also return laden. At present European Highlander is still in drydock, and Superfast VII is scheduled to be off service tomorrow as well, so all sailings are expected to be very busy again tomorrow.
At present the active fleet is as follows:
P&O Larne - Cairnryan:
European Causeway
Stena Line Belfast - Cairnryan:
Stena Superfast VIII
Stena Hibernia (unaccompanied freight relief)
As expected Stena Hibernia returned back to Belfast and discharged at Victoria Terminal 1 (the Heysham berth), according to her AIS track. Stena Precision is currently on the VT1 berth, but Hibernia is scheduled to sail to Cairnryan again this evening returning at 07:30. Yesterday's sailing was unscheduled.
Although Hibernia is scheduled to run again tomorrow night, I believe Superfast VII is to return tomorrow evening instead of Tuesday morning as scheduled. Obviously this will relieve the pressure on VII massively as she is currently 75% of the passenger capacity on the North Channel! The decision to switch Hibernia's layover to Belfast is certainly paying dividends though! European Highlander remains in drydock though Express has moved to Larne (see P&O thread).
Edit: further info added
Following SF VIII's departure, Stena Superfast VII has made her way to the Belfast berth at VT4. Looks like she will be running this evening.
Stena Superfast VII left Harland and Wollf this afternoon and headed for Victoria Terminal 4, I assume to take up her normal schedule from the 19:30 departure onwards. Stena Hibernia has returned to the Birkenhead schedule a day early. European Highlander is still in drydock with what looks to be serious technical problems. Its a very wet and blowy evening out there, let's hope there are no further delays.
Edit: Stena Superfast VII is just swinging of the Belfast berth now.
All sailings back to normal on Cairnryan routw from 19:30 according to Stena ferry check. However SF VII appears to be taking on bunkers from Mersey Spirit at present, putting her behind what would be her normal schedule - she would normally be expected in Belfast in just over an hours time.
Quote from: Steven on March 25, 2014, 12:40:38 AM
All sailings back to normal on Cairnryan routw from 19:30 according to Stena ferry check. However SF VII appears to be taking on bunkers from Mersey Spirit at present, putting her behind what would be her normal schedule - she would normally be expected in Belfast in just over an hours time.
There appears to have been problems overnight as the ships have switched places on the schedule with VII appearing To miss a sailing. Let's hope its just teething problems and not something requiring more time at H&W.
Some nice new images of the Superfast VII and VIII taken over the last few days now on Scott Mackey's Flickr site
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/with/13400530714/
The Celtic Horizon will transfer to Stena Line at the end of the month. She will be renamed Stena Horizon and will remain on her regular run.
I understand Celtic Horizon will become Stena Horizon tomorrow (has been posted to Ferries of Northern Europe group)
The website already has her renamed (with that dodgy pic still there!)
http://www.stenaline.ie/ferries/stena-horizon (http://www.stenaline.ie/ferries/stena-horizon)
Mind you, the original isn't much better
(http://celticlinkferries.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/celtic-link-ferry.jpg)
I expect it won't be too long before the funnel becomes red with a big red on 'S' now.
I agree. The great thing about the Horizon's current livery is that not much needs to be done. Her current funnel is blue, with white strips near the top and bottom, which is perfect for Stena as all they need to do is paint the middle red and put the Stena logo on, as Steven said. Then with the hull, the bottom is already blue with white on top, so all they need to do is paint the Stena Line livery on the side, which they can do fairly easily and then rename the Celtic Horizon to Stena Horizon. It shouldn't take too long.
The Stena Egeria (formerly Hoa Sen) is nearing a relaunch from the Chinese shipyard in Jiangyin where is has been since last November. According to reports the Hoa Sen which was inspected before purchase was not in great condition technically (having been laid up for three years- no surprise) and has had some major work carried out while in dry dock, in total approx 140 tonnes of steel were replaced in the hull (not uncommon in Visentini's - Stena Feronia in Gdansk (Before accident in Belfast) and Norman Voyager on the Tyne have had this work done above the water line, a large portion of Egerias was below the waterline also) and a huge number of different jobs have been carried out during the refurbishment.
It will be interesting to see how successful the Chinese shipyard has been at this work as it is possibly the first european vessel to be rebuilt in China to this extent.
There has been no news yet of the destination of the Stena Egeria but the livery it is painted in when it leaves the shipyard will possibly be the first clues of Stena RoRo's intentions for the vessel. Given the amount of work carried out it could possibly be the newest looking vessel in the Stena RoRo fleet and ideal for a role with Stena Line.
Some images of the shipyard where the work was carried out, looks impressive
http://chengxi.cssc.net.cn/cms_chengxi_en/compay_mod_file/mode_3.php?cart=8&typeid=112
I would expect 'Egeria' is destined for the charter market, though you never know. Given the vessels flexibility, and ability to fit nicely in most ports, Visenitini's high capacity ect. Perhaps she might find work in New Zealand, or even South Korea.
There is also the possibility the group are examining the performance and competency of the Chinese yard, perhaps with future builds in mind. Stena have always been keen to get a bargain so to speak, have this be in Yugoslavia (Stena Londoner /, Seafrance Monet) , or South Korea (Stena Transporter - 1978 & Stena Adventurer - 2003). Stena wouldn't be alone though, Norfolk Line chose South Korea to build the 3 D's, but personally I think Stena led the way so to speak. I think P&O are the only group with a nearly all European built vessels, with the exception of the Ambassador class (European Highlander & Causeway, & Stena Nordica).
I don't know if its just me or does the 'Egeria' bring back memories of the Stena Forwarder (2002 ish).
Quote from: TC on April 01, 2014, 10:01:44 PM
I would expect 'Egeria' is destined for the charter market, though you never know. Given the vessels flexibility, and ability to fit nicely in most ports, Visenitini's high capacity ect. Perhaps she might find work in New Zealand, or even South Korea.
There is also the possibility the group are examining the performance and competency of the Chinese yard, perhaps with future builds in mind. Stena have always been keen to get a bargain so to speak, have this be in Yugoslavia (Stena Londoner /, Seafrance Monet) , or South Korea (Stena Transporter - 1978 & Stena Adventurer - 2003). Stena wouldn't be alone though, Norfolk Line chose South Korea to build the 3 D's, but personally I think Stena led the way so to speak. I think P&O are the only group with a nearly all European built vessels, with the exception of the Ambassador class (European Highlander & Causeway, & Stena Nordica).
I don't know if its just me or does the 'Egeria' bring back memories of the Stena Forwarder (2002 ish).
She is a sister of Forwarder (yard numbers 195 and 196), hence the resemblance. Regarding deployment she could go anywhere. If Nordica hadn't been already more or less confirmed as replacing Europe I would have said she could end up at Fishguard, but there are plenty of other options in the Stena Line network as well. Then theres always the Stena ventures beyond north western Europe, and thats before you even consider the charter market or any new route plans or joint ventures that Stena may have on the horizon.
I wouldn't be surprised personally if the next order for new build passenger ropax's from Stena goes to China, given the lower costs than from a European yard. I remember there where concerns about the quality of the interiors on the Korean built ships when they arrived so giving refit work to Chinese yards could be a good way of testing this out without committing to a new build. The other shipping divisions have already used Chinese yards IIRC, and European yards are not only becoming more scarce but those that are left with significant capability to fulfil an order for ferries are getting filled with cruise ship orders. Bear in mind also the Mercy ships project is also being carried out in China and managed by Stena RoRo with a design based on a Stena design so what you suggest is not inconceivable. However, it appears to be a good time to buy on the used market at present so perhaps this will delay any new orders. Given Stena's expertise in conversion of existing tonnage its not inconceivable that they could acquire sufficient used tonnage in order to remove the need for any new order - they don't need specialist designed tonnage like P&O do at Dover for example which widens their options significantly.
The changes being made to Egeria are indeed substantial, and go a long way to explaining why she has been in the yard so long. I believe she had to travel to the yard under tow as she had no certification, and additionally was quarantined for a period due to their being some unwanted guests onboard. Thankfully though she was saved as by the sounds of things she could easily have got to a stage that she was beyond saving. I believe she was very corroded in addition to the hull still being damaged from her grounding. Given she was originally operated for Caronte and Tourist as 'Cartour', she's a long way from "home".
Posted this elsewhere in response to a query as to how many Visentini's Stena now have now Horizon is under their control, and thought I may as well post it here
QuoteOk, so I make it 11 ropax's including Celtic Horizon in total either owned or operated out of 24 (of the 27 ropax's listed on wikipedia, 3 [Eurocargo Salerno, Eurocargo Istanbul, and Eurocargo Valencia] are ro-ro freighters - unless the definition of a ropax now includes vessels with accommodation for just 12 passengers).
They are as follows
Stena RoRo owned
Stena Feronia (Stena)
Stena Egeria (Hoa Sen - currently undergoing major works in China)
Partenope (TTT Line)
Trincaria (TTT Line)
Norman Asturias (LD Lines)
Etretat (BF of course!)
Stena Line Operated
Stena Lagan (Belfast - Birkenhead)
Stena Mersey (Belfast - Birkenhead)
Celtic (soon to be Stena) Horizon (Rosslare to Cherbourg)
Stena Flavia (Travemunde - Ventspils)
Scottish Viking (Nynaeshamn - Ventspils)
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Fleetlist.aspx
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/ferr...s/shipgallery/
The other big owners appear to be Visentini themselves (through affiliated companies such as Levantini and Visemar) and Caronte & Tourist. If anyone knows of any other Stena Visentini ropax's please add to the list as its something I am currently researching for my website!
As some may have heard, Celtic Link's suppliers have been delisted by Stena. There seems to have been a bit of a kick up in some areas about this but although harsh, its hardly good business for a company to have 2 different suppliers for all their supplies in one location! Like many large companies purchasing is centralised in order to gain economies of scale, which is a lot of the rationale for the takeover in the first place. However, I am sure I speak for all of us in wishing all those negatively affected by the takeover the best of luck for the future.
EDIT: Forgot to add that the 2 Cairnryan ships switched bak to their normal positions on the schedule on Sunday. Theres some great pics kicking around on Facebook etc of the sisters side by side in Lough Ryan Port.
More on the former Celtic link situation:
I am told that the crew are staying on the ship, and that the renaming is delayed. Representatives from the flag state and classification society need to be present as well as all of the paperwork needing to be filed with the Irish Department of the Marine before she can be renamed.
Quote from: Steven on April 03, 2014, 07:43:41 PM
More on the former Celtic link situation:
I am told that the crew are staying on the ship, and that the renaming is delayed. Representatives from the flag state and classification society need to be present as well as all of the paperwork needing to be filed with the Irish Department of the Marine before she can be renamed.
All crew have been transfered to Northern Marine and operations are expected to continue as before.
http://www.shipsmonthly.com/features/view-from-the-bridge/877-captain-richard-collins
http://afloat.ie/port-news/ferry-news/item/24819-stena-line-start-direct-ferry-route-from-ireland-to-france
Scottish Viking has arrived in Gdansk (Remontowa). Don't know whether this is for routine maintenance or something larger (possibly related to a presentation I recently came across).
WE got the answer to a question some of us have wondered for a while following Stena Lagan's hull inspection a while back today - could the Superfasts fit into Larne?
The answer is (as some of us suspected) no! An attempt was made today to bring Superfast VIII into Larne for a routine underwater inspection. It was known there would be little margin for error before this was attempted, and with winds gusting up to 40kts the attempt was called off after multiple approaches as it was going to be too risky! I should add that the weather while chilly is quite pleasant up here today.
So what does this tell us then? Well, Stena could never operate to Larne with their current tonnage which also rules Larne out as an alternative port. Secondly, we now know that P&O would not be able to put similar sized ships onto their Larne services regardless of the infrastructure at the other end. Stena Lagan was already over the official size limit so its no surprise that the Superfasts where just pushing the limit too far, even though it was thought to theoretically be just possible.
Quote from: Steven on April 06, 2014, 06:22:39 PM
WE got the answer to a question some of us have wondered for a while following Stena Lagan's hull inspection a while back today - could the Superfasts fit into Larne?
The answer is (as some of us suspected) no! An attempt was made today to bring Superfast VIII into Larne for a routine underwater inspection. It was known there would be little margin for error before this was attempted, and with winds gusting up to 40kts the attempt was called off after multiple approaches as it was going to be too risky! I should add that the weather while chilly is quite pleasant up here today.
So what does this tell us then? Well, Stena could never operate to Larne with their current tonnage which also rules Larne out as an alternative port. Secondly, we now know that P&O would not be able to put similar sized ships onto their Larne services regardless of the infrastructure at the other end. Stena Lagan was already over the official size limit so its no surprise that the Superfasts where just pushing the limit too far, even though it was thought to theoretically be just possible.
Just to clarify, if conditions where 100% she WOULD fit into Larne, but unfortunately conditions aren't often 100% (as was the case today). Larne is much more exposed than Belfast meaning that even Express required a tug to help her alongside.
Good news, the Stena Explorer will be back on the Irish Sea tomorrow 8)
Quote from: HSS on April 08, 2014, 10:11:50 PM
Good news, the Stena Explorer will be back on the Irish Sea tomorrow 8)
But for how long! ;)
Scottish Viking is still at Remontowa BTW, while looking at AIS Stena Flavia appears to have been moved across to cover.
As today is the date that the HSS Stena Explorer returns to service, i've just been checking the sailing updates on the Stena website and it is showing 'No sailings' for today. The date shown is 9th April. Could we read anything into this?
Quote from: LiverpoolIrishLiam on April 09, 2014, 12:16:01 AM
As today is the date that the HSS Stena Explorer returns to service, i've just been checking the sailing updates on the Stena website and it is showing 'No sailings' for today. The date shown is 9th April. Could we read anything into this?
Last update 6:46 this morning, sailing on time, so no sudden demise for the Concorde of the seas. Yet, anyway. :)
Never been much of a fastcraft fan - much prefer the slow boats - but with this looking likely to be the HSS' last season, we've booked onto it for the traditional summer trip to England. Once more, for old times' sake...
If more & more people sail on the Explorer this year and if the numbers go up, maybe it would give Stena something to think about. Don't want to see her going to the scrap yard :'(
Does anybody have pictures of the Stena Horizon with her new livery yet?
Quote from: Steven on April 05, 2014, 10:40:30 PM
Scottish Viking has arrived in Gdansk (Remontowa). Don't know whether this is for routine maintenance or something larger (possibly related to a presentation I recently came across).
Scottish Viking left Gdansk for Travemunde yesterday morning according to AIS. However she made a sharp turn away from the German port earlier today and appears to have been stationary north of the port for a large part of the day.
It really does appear that the Stena Alegra had many black cats cross its path.
In the wars again down in New Zealand:
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/damaged-stena-alegra-ferry-action-5896383
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11235035
http://www.3news.co.nz/Replacement-ferry-damaged-in-extreme-weather/tabid/421/articleID/339403/Default.aspx
http://www.stuff.co.nz/southland-times/news/national-news/9920340/Replacement-Cook-Strait-ferry-damaged
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/241165/ferry-breakdown-holds-up-freight
some sheets of steel and welders will be required, they could buy some cans of paint while they are waiting for the repairs !
With either Allegra or Aratare appear to be having much luck! With Aratare nearing relaunch now (once the rudder stock issue is sorted) I wonder where Stena Allegra will go next. If there is a problem with the engines I'm sure Stena will be keen to investigate though!
Given the luck Stena have had with the Stena Jinx......I mean Allegra , her next stop could be Stena Ro-Ro for disposal ;D
Quote from: Collision-course on April 14, 2014, 05:26:20 AM
Given the luck Stena have had with the Stena Jinx......I mean Allegra , her next stop could be Stena Ro-Ro for disposal ;D
???????
She already is owned by Stena RoRo
Quote from: Steven on April 14, 2014, 07:33:00 PM
Quote from: Collision-course on April 14, 2014, 05:26:20 AM
Given the luck Stena have had with the Stena Jinx......I mean Allegra , her next stop could be Stena Ro-Ro for disposal ;D
???????
She already is owned by Stena RoRo
Thats what I mean , as in she could be going back to them for disposal.
Quote from: Collision-course on April 14, 2014, 08:40:13 PM
Quote from: Steven on April 14, 2014, 07:33:00 PM
Quote from: Collision-course on April 14, 2014, 05:26:20 AM
Given the luck Stena have had with the Stena Jinx......I mean Allegra , her next stop could be Stena Ro-Ro for disposal ;D
???????
She already is owned by Stena RoRo
Thats what I mean , as in she could be going back to them for disposal.
To be honest I think she will stay and get bareboat chartered out. IF she does have engine issues they will need sorted before any sale or it will have an impact on what she sells for. Mind you knowing Stena they probably picked her up for a song in the first place! She's a handy ship to have though given her freight capacity and the fact she has passenger accommodation (albeit not superferry standard) and a decent service speed. If her reliability could be sorted out she could be a very good workhorse.
Surley they wouldn,t dispose a ferry that was built 15 years ago. She should have another flew years life in her.
I wonder will we see Stena Europe in Cherbourg
Quote from: IFPete on April 18, 2014, 06:38:57 PM
I wonder will we see Stena Europe in Cherbourg
Personally I doubt it but stranger things have happened. Would be ironic though being her sisters old port.
Superfasts are backwards again. Hoping to get out and get some pics of the early evening arrival later.
An interesting blog post from the same person who visited Voyager when she arrived in Lanskrona, which was sent to me yesterday. Those easily upset shouldn't bother clicking!
http://mygulitypleasures.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/stena-voyager-close-to-the-end/
QuoteStena Line to raise freight rates by 15% from 2015 due to new sulphur content limits in ECAs
Stena Line plans a 15-pct increase of freight rates from 2015 due to new sulphur content limits (0.1%) to be introduced in the Baltic and the North Seas (Emission Control Areas), Björn Petrusson, Stena Line Freight Director, told IAA PortNews at the international transport and logistics exhibition TransRussia 2014.
According to him, the vessels of the company will use MGO in ECA from 2015.
Besides, the company has been financed by EU to study the possibility of using methanol and liquefied natural gas (LNG) as a marine fuel. The first vessel is to run on methanol from early 2016, at Kiel – Gothenburg line.
http://en.portnews.ru/news/179303/
It seems there has been a fire onboard Stena owned and potentially Holyhead bound Dieppe Seaways this afternoon.
http://www.dover-express.co.uk/breaks-engine-room-DFDS-ferry-Port-Dover/story-21043099-detail/story.html
Oh! That's a bit of bother. DFDS are increasingly becoming the Townsend Thoresen of the 21st century in my opinion. I don't think P&O or Stena have had anything like this for a good long time. NORSEA (Pride of York) had a minor engine fire back in 2002, but I don't think P&O have had one since.
I might be wrong but I think a few years ago Stena Nautica might have had a little incident? And the Europe lost power a few times in the past.
I expect if Stena (fingers crossed), moved the Dieppe to the Irish Sea, she would have a good refurbishment, similar to VII & VIII.
Quote from: TC on May 01, 2014, 05:10:00 PM
I expect if Stena (fingers crossed), moved the Dieppe to the Irish Sea, she would have a good refurbishment, similar to VII & VIII.
Its far from an isolated incident with DFDS as well, plus there have been other issues such as the problem on Sirena leading her to crash into the quay at Harwich, etc. I expect Dieppe Seaways will not be identical to her Belfast based sisters. More cabins could be made use of for example on the longer crossing, likewise with operational experience there may be things Stena/Figura would have done differently in hindsight. Im also not sure she would jave the same modifications made to her mooring equipment made to the Northern pair as adventurer probably would need to be modified as well, in addition to the facilities at one of the ports. She should be well sorted out though technically and aesthetically so to the public she will appear a new ship, rather than the botched conversion SeaFrance did.
Wow , and this hot on the heals of an explosion aboard Crown Seaways , I hope those crew members and emergency service firefighters who were injured make a speedy recovery , it takes brave people to board a burning ship to fight that type of fire.
Stena have had a few incidents of their own in recent months , Stena Saga suffered an engine room fire not so long ago.
Fires breaking out aboard ferries are becoming increasingly common , to my mind there are two reasons for this , firstly is cost cutting on maintenance by operators , secondly and more seriously in my mind is new legislation , for over a decade now there has been a raft of new regulations aimed at making ferries more eco-friendly , nothing wrong with the principle but the legislation is being drawn up by people who know little about the commercial operation of a ship , know even less about the technical operation of a ship , and know nothing at all about the science behind marine propulsion , which in my opinion is a dangerous mix , there are several European marine ministers who think that because they own a yacht that they are competent to regulate the marine sector , my grandparents are yacht owners and I can tell you that when compared to operating the MV Julia the only things they had in common is that they both float on water and both will sink if their hull is compromised , thats where the similarity ends.
I fully support ferries being made to be more eco-friendly , but when it comes to legislation it should be based on scientific and technical evidence and not what some politician thinks will be popular enough to get some votes.
Stena are to stop taking railway wagons on Sassnitz-Rostock from June in order to concentrate on the passenger market more according to the FONE group
Stena have published their 2013 results
available to download here:
http://www.stena.com/en/Pages/default.aspx
http://www.stena.com/en/news-and-finance/Pages/investor-relations.aspx#!/en/news-and-finance/Pages/reports.aspx
Quote from: giftgrub on May 02, 2014, 08:09:08 PM
Stena have published their 2013 results
available to download here:
http://www.stena.com/en/Pages/default.aspx
http://www.stena.com/en/news-and-finance/Pages/investor-relations.aspx#!/en/news-and-finance/Pages/reports.aspx
Ta
The ferry business doesn't look to be doing too bad from what I can see (though I am no expert).
Found an image of the Hoa Sen posted on the twitter machine by Stena RoRo in Feb
https://twitter.com/WestlingPer/status/430787793934372864/photo/1
still in Shanghai 02/05
noticed in the annual report former Stena Baltica Ex KB is on a six year bareboat charter to SNAV.
Quote from: giftgrub on May 03, 2014, 12:01:47 AM
Found an image of the Hoa Sen posted on the twitter machine by Stena RoRo in Feb
https://twitter.com/WestlingPer/status/430787793934372864/photo/1
still in Shanghai 02/05
noticed in the annual report former Stena Baltica Ex KB is on a six year bareboat charter to SNAV.
Think he posted a couple of pics on Facebook as well back then. Re ex Baltica, this was in the previous report as well though I note they have to purchase her at the end of the six years. Sort of a hire purchase arrangement I suppose, though by that stage she will be 33!
Wherever Egeria ends up, she has a bit of sailing to do to get out on to open water. At least this time she will have her own power though! IIRC she was due to be finished in May (or was it June?).
The Egeria floats !!!!!!!!
Some very nice images here:
http://www.matkustajalaivat.com/Ferries/StenaLine/StenaEgeria2001/etusivu.htm
Plenty to read in the annual report including:
first official confirmation...
"In January 2014, the Ropax vessel Dieppe Seaways, was
acquired. The vessel is a sister vessel to Stena Superfast VII
and Stena Superfast VIII. Dieppe Seaways is on a charter
to DFDS Seaways until November 2014."
I would expect this means Dieppe will be moving to Irish Sea after refit & repaint. Unless Stena RoRo have something up their sleeve (perhaps a bareboat charter). She'll be a nice addition to Dublin to Holyhead (fingers crossed). I think the Superfasts are very much Stena vessels, in the sense of space, interior styling ect (more passenger orientated).
Stena Nordica (even after 10 years with Stena) still feels like a mish-mash between a P&O passenger freighter (economical and practical - no frills) and a bit of Stena interior styling thrown in. In terms of size, value for money, and general passenger experience I would prefer to travel on the Adventurer. It might be just me but she seems more a Stena ship and worthy of paying that bit more than lets say the European Endeavour. I don't really notice a huge difference between the service offered on the Nordica, and the Highlander or Causeway, or the Endeavour - and P&O are cheaper.
I think if the 'Dieppe' will help cement Stena's high quality service, and will be a better running mate with the Adventurer. To be honest I still find the Nordica as a P&O ship, that Stena has been trying to pass off as a Stena ship, and charging quite hefty rates for passengers. I cant wait for the Dieppe to come!
It reminds me of Stena Empereur / Jutlandica, when she was under P&O Ferries as the Pride of Provence. She sort of looked not quite right, and didn't really look a P&O ship! hehe.
Even though the charter is until November, if DFDS do pull out of Calais (or where to acquire Rodin and Berlioz as a result of MFL ceasing ops) I'm sure they would have her before that. Would be a great marketing opportunity for Christmas and allow Explorer to disappear without the public attention she would get otherwise.
Moving on, first pics of Stena Egeria I have seen as Stena Egeria (from that site I can't pronounce!)
http://www.matkustajalaivat.com/Ferries/StenaLine/StenaEgeria2001/etusivu.htm
Stena Superfast VIII missed her 11:30 round trip due to "essential maintenance" this morning. Her normal 05:30 round trip had already been removed from the booking engine. Currently still scheduled for her first departure of the day at 19:30.
The following is a summary of some posts over at DFE re Dieppe Seaways.
Dieppe Seaways is currently still moored of the Eastern Arm in Dover, having been aided by 2 tugs to get there yesterday. Reports seem to suggest that there was an explosion of a hot water boiler when she was approaching Dover with the fire then spreading into the machine room. 7 crew and 3 firefighters where injured, though thankfully none seriously. Apparently she is at the Eastern arm for damage to be assessed though DFDS appear to still think she will be back in service tomorrow!
It wouldn't surprise me if Stena don't get Dieppe before November. Though it still seems strange DFDS have gone to the bother of repainting her in the new livery, rather than touching up the previous white hybrid DFDS Seafrance livery. Seems a waste of money for a few months, it makes me wonder if they will extend the charter.
Personally I think they might hang in and see if MFL is forced to stop operations. I really think a merger is the best for both parties, at least then MFL and DFDS have a chance on Dover to Calais.
I would say the logical thing to do is for DFDS to return the Dieppe to Stena, and operate the following on Dover to Calais:
1. Calais Seaways
2. Rodin
3. Berlioz
4. Nord Pas de Calais (If enough demand for freight)
If I'm correct in thinking DFDS started Dover to Calais when LD Lines dropped Bolounge? I think its a shame they did that. If they ploughed a bit more effort into it and undercut P&O a little, they could probably make Bolougne work, perhaps work a bit of Dunkirk magic on the ghost port.
It seems a waste the new hub port just being left. A lot of folks I know who previously used Dover to Calais, switched to Dunkirk for the convenience of not being as busy.
On another note, if Calais is dropped, I wonder what will happen to Calais Seaways? She might just be redeployed on another DFDS route. I would say a move to Stena shouldn't be totally ruled out. DFDS removed cabins used on Portsmouth - Le Havre, not sure how many but I'm not sure how well she would fit in on that route now. They could always just keep her as extra capacity for Dunkirk, but I still wondering, as Stena Navigator was fairly ancient when she took up service for Stena, but with a good refit she looked very well.
What would ye guys think of Calais Seaways on Rosslare - Fishguard?
Quote from: TC on May 07, 2014, 01:48:57 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if Stena don't get Dieppe before November. Though it still seems strange DFDS have gone to the bother of repainting her in the new livery, rather than touching up the previous white hybrid DFDS Seafrance livery. Seems a waste of money for a few months, it makes me wonder if they will extend the charter.
Personally I think they might hang in and see if MFL is forced to stop operations. I really think a merger is the best for both parties, at least then MFL and DFDS have a chance on Dover to Calais.
I would say the logical thing to do is for DFDS to return the Dieppe to Stena, and operate the following on Dover to Calais:
1. Calais Seaways
2. Rodin
3. Berlioz
4. Nord Pas de Calais (If enough demand for freight)
If I'm correct in thinking DFDS started Dover to Calais when LD Lines dropped Bolounge? I think its a shame they did that. If they ploughed a bit more effort into it and undercut P&O a little, they could probably make Bolougne work, perhaps work a bit of Dunkirk magic on the ghost port.
It seems a waste the new hub port just being left. A lot of folks I know who previously used Dover to Calais, switched to Dunkirk for the convenience of not being as busy.
On another note, if Calais is dropped, I wonder what will happen to Calais Seaways? She might just be redeployed on another DFDS route. I would say a move to Stena shouldn't be totally ruled out. DFDS removed cabins used on Portsmouth - Le Havre, not sure how many but I'm not sure how well she would fit in on that route now. They could always just keep her as extra capacity for Dunkirk, but I still wondering, as Stena Navigator was fairly ancient when she took up service for Stena, but with a good refit she looked very well.
What would ye guys think of Calais Seaways on Rosslare - Fishguard?
Even if DFDS wanted to renew the charter it doesn't mean Stena would let them, unless it is written ointo the agreement that DFDS have an option to extend. Regarding the repaint it would have been booked months in advance, before Stena took ownership and probably when things looked much more promising for the link - it may have even been necessary under the terms of the original charter for all we know. Calais Seaways would be a good fit for Portsmouth - LeHavre, though I think there where changes made to her ramps since she last operated there so she may not be as good a fit as she could have been. Cabins are easily refitted though, and from recent pics her interior looks to be in good shape. That's if Sirena Seaways or a similar ship doesn't go there instead. RE Fishguard, a few years ago I would have seen her there (in fact when she was owned by Stena I thought Fishguard was her most likely destination) but personally I think its a service best in the hands of a ropax these days. The passenger numbers just aren't their year round at present. She is also approaching her 25th birthday in a few years meaning she wouldn't be a long term option either. Given she was designed for the dover strait/channel i wonder how she would fare operating across St Georges channel. Mind you if IF wanted to replace Epsilon at Dublin and wanted to keep Inishmore at Pembroke I think there are worse vessels they could use to Holyhead, especially given she was designed for a similar length of route. Time will tell what will happen with DFDS at Calais.
We are starting to go off topic again ;)
There's a short article/summary about Stena's results here:
http://www.tradewindsnews.com/finance/336938/stena-pushes-up-profitstena-pushes-up-profit
The Stena Sphere/Group as an entity seems to be doing well with profits up. Hard to believe they have 173 ships, its so easy to think of Stena as just the ferry operation. Mind you the same can be said for many large corporations.
Wee update on the North Channel
Both Superfasts are to be briefly off service in the coming weeks. Stena Superfast VII will have a bit of maintenance and survey work at Lough Ryan Port Saturday 17th and Sunday 18th May. Last sailing will be 0330 ex Belfast on Saturday resuming at 1130 ex LRP on the Sunday. Stena Superfast VIII is to have a brief dry-docking at Harland and Wolff at the start of next week from Tuesday to Thursday .
Additionally, Scott Mackey has made the following available publicly for a limited time:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/?details=1
Includes Stena Horizon (including the bridge)
Quote from: Steven on May 09, 2014, 07:11:16 PM
Additionally, Scott Mackey has made the following available publicly for a limited time:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/?details=1
Includes Stena Horizon (including the bridge)
Glad to see this back even if it is for a limited time, great photos!
Tonights Rosslare - Fishguard 21:00 departure was cancelled due to adverse weather according to ferry check. Stena Horizon sailed and is making approx 20kts off Penzance at present.
Isle of Inishmore sailed this evening, albeit late.
Why does Stena always cancel the Europe so much? Would it be her manoeuvrability, i.e. - bow thrusters?
I know 'KB' aka Stena Baltica got quite a reputation at Rosslare for being difficult in bad weather, but Europe isn't exactly small, and isn't as big as the Isle of Inishmore?
I was surprised to hear the Stena Horizon operating at 20knts in those conditions :o.
Quote from: TC on May 11, 2014, 05:01:02 PM
Why does Stena always cancel the Europe so much? Would it be her manoeuvrability, i.e. - bow thrusters?
I know 'KB' aka Stena Baltica got quite a reputation at Rosslare for being difficult in bad weather, but Europe isn't exactly small, and isn't as big as the Isle of Inishmore?
I was surprised to hear the Stena Horizon operating at 20knts in those conditions :o.
Europe is quite small compared to most on the Irish sea these days. Visentinis are quite good sea boats. Their size is an advantage in some ways as a smaller ship tends to roll more naturally (less for the sea to move around). Horizon probably got going before the worst of the weather hit.
Quote from: Steven on May 09, 2014, 07:11:16 PM
Wee update on the North Channel
Both Superfasts are to be briefly off service in the coming weeks. Stena Superfast VII will have a bit of maintenance and survey work at Lough Ryan Port Saturday 17th and Sunday 18th May. Last sailing will be 0330 ex Belfast on Saturday resuming at 1130 ex LRP on the Sunday. Stena Superfast VIII is to have a brief dry-docking at Harland and Wolff at the start of next week from Tuesday to Thursday .
Additionally, Scott Mackey has made the following available publicly for a limited time:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/?details=1
Includes Stena Horizon (including the bridge)
I am told (and it has been posted elsewhere) that Stena Superfast VIII will go into drydock in the early hours of Monday. It had been expected she would not be able to go in until Tuesday due to delays at H&W but they can now take her in earlier.
Just noticed this posted on facebook by the user Daves Ferry Photos
Stena Jinx Allegra is at it again
http://www.3news.co.nz/Stena-Alegra-loses-part-of-propeller/tabid/423/articleID/343426/Default.aspx
Given that ships history one would question the logic behind deploying it to a place like the Cook Strait , surely there were more reliable Stena Vessels available at the time of charter.
The Alegra has certainly not had a good time since entering service, i did wonder that its dry dock period was very short after being laid up for so long in Falmouth, wonder has that had any impact on its reliability since returning to service ?
http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/10034519/Propeller-fix-keeps-Stena-Alegra-in-port
It looks much fresher in the promo video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc5gTk0wAnw
Allegra looks smart in the video. Its a pity she's had a few niggles along the way. To be honest... I wouldn't say she deserves the title Stena Jinx, as I'd say once a more thorough dry-dock is completed, hopefully any potential probs will be sorted.
European Endeavour certainly has a excellent reputation on Dublin to Liverpool with P&O, for timekeeping, and general reliability, so I'd say things should straighten out with the Allegra. I think personally the express repaint into Stena livery, and general dry-docking has caused much of these problems. Its a shame she didn't find her way onto the Irish Sea, and given she's now 'down-under' I cant see her coming back.
Some great images of the Stena Superfast VIII in drydock today available on Scott Mackeys excellent Flickr site - Limited availability from this site look at them while you can.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/14174993731/in/photostream
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/14178122404/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/14154937856/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/14178104415/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/14198231703/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/14178093195/in/photostream/
Stena Line Freight's Newsletter just published some info on Irish Sea Services included:
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/~/media/Files/Freight%20News%20May%202014%20low%20res.ashx
plus some new Freight brochures:
http://www.sebroschyr.se/broadeningbusiness/WebView/#/20/
http://www.sebroschyr.se/stenafreightfacts2014/WebView/#/0/
Quote from: giftgrub on May 13, 2014, 09:43:17 PM
Some great images of the Stena Superfast VIII in drydock today available on Scott Mackeys excellent Flickr site - Limited availability from this site look at them while you can.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/14174993731/in/photostream
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/14178122404/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/14154937856/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/14178104415/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/14198231703/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/14178093195/in/photostream/
Yeah, saw these today, great photos, think I need to join up to Flickr :)
The Stena RoRo owned Stena Egeria has been chartered to Chinese shipping company Yantai Bohai International Ferry Co and will see service between China and Korea linking Yantai and Pyeongtaek.
http://www.whatsonjinan.com/tag-Stena+Egeria.html
Quote from: giftgrub on May 14, 2014, 12:40:12 AM
The Stena RoRo owned Stena Egeria has been chartered to Chinese shipping company Yantai Bohai International Ferry Co and will see service between China and Korea linking Yantai and Pyeongtaek.
http://www.whatsonjinan.com/tag-Stena+Egeria.html
Good to see she is going more or less straight into service now after so long in used.
Quote from: giftgrub on May 14, 2014, 12:40:12 AM
The Stena RoRo owned Stena Egeria has been chartered to Chinese shipping company Yantai Bohai International Ferry Co and will see service between China and Korea linking Yantai and Pyeongtaek.
http://www.whatsonjinan.com/tag-Stena+Egeria.html
Wee bit more on Stena Egeria. It seems each crossing will take around 15 hours.
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/205040/8618753.html
Stena Superfast VIII has just left H&W assisted by the tug Willowgarth. VII has sailed for Lough Ryan Port. Ferrycheck still showing the 19:30 as cancelled though normally this would be VII's crossing (nb Stena's website has shown VII as the ship of service rather than VIII. VII has been sailing on VIII's schedule.).
Quote from: Steven on May 15, 2014, 03:28:30 PM
Stena Superfast VIII has just left H&W assisted by the tug Willowgarth. VII has sailed for Lough Ryan Port. Ferrycheck still showing the 19:30 as cancelled though normally this would be VII's crossing (nb Stena's website has shown VII as the ship of service rather than VIII. VII has been sailing on VIII's schedule.).
So it turns out that VIII did go back on to her own schedule, with her 15:30 delayed as a result. VII actually went for a wee cruise up Belfast lough to allow VIII in. Bottom line is, all back to normal on the North Channel for now.
Stena Superfast VII is of course of service today for maintenance. She is expected back in service on the 23:30 ex LRP according to the booking engine.
On Superfast X, it is looking doubtful we will see her in service from Dublin before early 2015, meaning Explorer could get an extra few months and remain in service for the Christmas period. As things stand Stena won't have her in their hands until during November, making it very unlikely she could be converted and introduced prior to the Christmas peak season.
Edit: VII back on the 11:30 tomorrow.
Quote from: Steven on May 17, 2014, 06:57:38 PM
Stena Superfast VII is of course of service today for maintenance. She is expected back in service on the 23:30 ex LRP according to the booking engine.
Edit: VII back on the 11:30 tomorrow.
How many ramps are there at LRP?
The reason I ask is that Hibernia left Belfast at around 19.30hrs and is, as I type, on her way to LRP.
Quote from: Alanmac6363 on May 17, 2014, 09:24:00 PM
Quote from: Steven on May 17, 2014, 06:57:38 PM
Stena Superfast VII is of course of service today for maintenance. She is expected back in service on the 23:30 ex LRP according to the booking engine.
Edit: VII back on the 11:30 tomorrow.
How many ramps are there at LRP?
The reason I ask is that Hibernia left Belfast at around 19.30hrs and is, as I type, on her way to LRP.
2 iirc. The main double deck ramp and the adjacent layover berth.
2 iirc. The main double deck ramp and the adjacent layover berth.
MarineTraffic.com would seem to agree, Steven.
There are definitely the two berths alongside each other as there have been photos of both sisters berthed alongside each other, though only the one double deck linkspan. Would make sense to run Hibernia given both operators are down on capacity. I know VII was carrying big vehicle loads during the week when VIII was off service. Hibernia has been the unsung hero of the North Channel in my eyes this year, mopping up the drops when both operators have had their troubles.
There is an evacuation exercise scheduled for Saturday between the Hoek and Harwich
http://www.knrm.nl/service/nieuws/?contentID=64A4ACAFB5
Can the layover berth at Port Ryan be used for vehicle loading? Looks like it's a slip way...trying to remember if the Superfasts have stern ramps that could be lowered onto the slip...
Quote from: Sam71 on May 20, 2014, 10:29:06 PM
Can the layover berth at Port Ryan be used for vehicle loading? Looks like it's a slip way...trying to remember if the Superfasts have stern ramps that could be lowered onto the slip...
The Superfast's do have stern ramps, and they can be lowered onto the slip hence why there is no need for a second link span on the rare (though not as rare as Stena probably would have hoped) occasions both ships are in port, for example for maintenance vehicles to board etc. You can see the ramps clearly on the 3rd pic down on the following page, although they are not lowered.
http://pstew.co.uk/shipphotos/stenasuperfastviii.html
Is the layover berth at Port Ryan available then for operational use? If the linkspan was out of commission, could the Superfasts load and unload cars and trucks from the layover berth? I think both vessels have internal ramps to the upper deck, so maybe the layover berth gives them an option?
Just had it confirmed that the layover berth could indeed be used for loading and unloading, however high trailers (such as double deckers) could not be carried as only the middle 4 lanes of deck 5 (upper vehicle deck) have enough clearance.
Thanks Stephen...a bit of forward planning by Stena there!
QuoteUNION WELCOMES STENA LINE SWITCH ON CUTS
Following negotiations with Nautilus, Stena Line has withdrawn controversial plans to cut the terms and conditions of members serving on the Irish Sea services.
Talks between senior Stena Line management and Nautilus national secretary Garry Elliott, national ferries organiser Micky Smith and liaison officers has resulted in an agreement that there will be no changes to existing members' pay rates, leave or terms and conditions.
The company had been seeking to make £10m savings this year by cutting crewing costs to compete with other operators using low-cost employment models. As well as proposing a 5% pay cut and two weeks' loss of leave, it had warned that it might have to move to the use of foreign officers.
But after the Union conveyed the strength of members' opposition to the plans, Stena agreed to withdraw the most contested elements and will consider a partnership at work agreement to discuss new-start salaries, rank structures and study leave issues. Although the 2014 pay freeze will remain in place, current senior officer vacancies on the Irish Sea routes will be filled at current Stena rates of pay and a 'common' Stena safety management system will be implemented across all vessels in place of the Northern Marine SMS.
'We are pleased that management have listened to Nautilus and their employees and wish to repair relationships with their officers,' said Mr Elliott. 'It is a positive development, although we have warned the company that it has quite a way to go to repair the goodwill, motivation and morale that had been damaged amongst our membership since the proposals were tabled in January and a good first step in this process would be a statement that there will be a pay rise in January 2015.'
https://www.nautilusint.org/News-and-Events/Pages/article.aspx?newsid=644
From the Stena Freight Newsletter, a couple of bits relating to the Irish Sea operations (http://www.stenalinefreight.com/ferry/press/pressreleaser/Freight%20Newsletter%20May/)
QuoteA strategically important development
On 31 March Stena Line acquired the service be- tween Rosslare in Ireland and Cherbourg in France.
This is a historic milestone for Stena Line as it represents the company's first direct ferry link between the Continent and Ireland. As one of the leading ferry companies in the world, with a choice of 23 routes in its European network, Stena Line will enable the Ireland - France route to realise its full potential by bringing its experience, customer ser- vice standards and freight business practices to the new service. For example, as a customer of Stena Line Freight you can now access a range of on-line or intranet con- nected services in our Customer Support System (CSS) to speed up booking, simplify administration and save cost.
Following the announcement in late February, our freight managers were faced with a frenetic month of integratng business systems and meeting with customers to be ready for our first sailing on 1 April. Despite a busy Easter period looming and some tight deadlines for the integra- tion, new operations were seamlessly mastered and we've been delighted by the response and positive feedback from customers. New Stena Line Freight account custom- ers have been impressed by the ease of using our Cus- tomer Support System to obtain quotations, book space, receive messaging, track vehicles and later, when all is delivered, electronically receive and process invoices and make payments.
The new Stena Line route with a passage time of approximately 17 hrs will operate all year round, focusing on the needs of freight customers seeking a reliable link be- tween France and Ireland. The Company will operate the 28 000 tonne MV Stena Horizon (formerly the MV Celtic Horizon) on the route offering 3 weekly sailings from Rosslare at 21.30 on Tuesday and Thursday with a Satur- day sailing at 16.00 for up to 160 freight units per sailing. From Cherbourg the schedule is 21.00 on Wednesday and Friday with a Sunday sailing at 16.00.
This is a strategically important development and one which will help stimulate and strengthen new and exist- ing opportunities for trade between Ireland, France and beyond. Timing is opportune as improving economic data in Ireland and Europe points to the potential for increased freight traffic on this important commercial link between both regions.
Richard Horswill
Head of Freight
Area Irish Sea
A new type of cargo being carried from Belfast
QuoteIt has been a hectic start to 2014 and week 14 was no different on the Irish Sea
With the new Rosslare/Cherbourg service bedding into the network it was also fantastic to see the start of Static Caravan shipments on the Birkenhead /Bel- fast service. Whilst the annual numbers are relatively small the units themselves are actually quite large, the largest caravan is in the region of 12m x 4m.
A positive co-operation between the ports at Birkenhead 12 Quays, Belfast VT2 and Stena Line Freight has contributed hugely to the implementation of this project. Stena Line Freight has spoken with the customers concerned to open up the route and broaden the business with this new traffic flow by initially utilising the 03:00 Stena Hibernia departure.
It is excellent to see these caravans on the Birkenhead ser- vice. Our Irish Sea freight team has invested a lot of time on this project and it is finally great to see it come to fruition.
We will continue to promote the "new route" for this flow of traffic with a view to building on the numbers in the me- dium/long term. Providing an attractive alternative as a port of exit for these customers will be invaluable; it will present them with choice when organising their shipping logistics which until now hasn't been there.
Peter Kleberg
Head of Shipping Logistics
And the latest line from Stena on emissions
QuoteThe new regulation for Sulphur in fuel 2015 will affect the whole market
The new sulphur limits in marine fuel within the Bal- tic Sea and the North Sea (Sulphur emission control areas) will have a substantial impact on the cost for fuel, not only for us, but for all the operators in the industry
The regulation (IMO Marpol Annex VI) means that we will need to go from 1 to 0.1 percent sulphur in our fuel. The ferry industry has worked intensively in trying to postpone the implementation of the directive but currently we do not expect any delay.
The immediate action to mitigate the impact of the direc- tive is to shift to Marine Gas Oil (MGO) on all our vessels. At the same time we are also closely following the develop- ment of alternative fuel and our plan is to run the Stena Germanica on the route between Gothenburg and Kiel on Methanol in the first quarter of 2015.
What we do know for the moment is that the MGO is more expensive than LSFO. The present difference in price per ton is around 35 to 45 percent. It should be empha- sized that we are doing all we can to minimize the impact of the directive in terms of cost effectiveness and energy sav- ing activities in our fleet.
With regards to EU we will continue to take an active part in the discussion through Interferry Europe and the European Community's Ship owner's Association (ECSA). On a national level this is done through our representation in National Ship Owner's Association.
Stena Line will simultaneously always support a stricter and more environmental friendly legislation as long as it is reasonable, improves the environment and keeps a level playing field between the different modes of transport.
For more information about our compliance strategy, please download our brochure on our website, www.stenalinefreight.com.
Anders Bexell
Group Freight Business Controller
Some nice Nordica photos at http://www.irishships.com/robbie_ferries.html
Stena Hibernia just departing Belfast now (scheduled dep 15:00). Hopefully will get a PIC as at Ballyholme currently, at the mouth of Belfast lough - if she hurries up that is!
Hi all new member here .was over and back on hss over the last few days ,she still is in great shape only about 100 cars on board so quiet but one of the staff was saying there was over 300 cars and 1000 passangers traveling out of dun laoghaire last Saturday 31st may a bit like old times ,I don't understand why stena insist on charging so much more for cars on hss if they charged the same or maybe even a few euro less than the adventurer I would guarantee they would have a lot more cars traveling on hss.
Reports on dfe of another (minor) fire in the boiler room of Dieppe Seaways on Wednesday. I'm glad DFDS aren't responsible for overseeing the servicing of my car!!!!
Will upload Stena Hibernia pic's tomorrow.
You have to take your hat off to DFDS Dover operations. If there is something that requires attention, it probably will just be left. I'd say Stena aren't too pleased one of their vessels is getting a fair bit of abuse. In all fairness, she has probably had these problems for quite sometime. I'd say since the Seafrance days, the Dieppe hasn't been getting the greatest of care.
I don't want to offend IF fans, but the link between Dieppe and Superfast VII & VIII, reminds me of the sister link between 'Normandy' & Stena Europe. 'Normandy' was always a bit more battered and weathered, and her interior wasn't quite up to Stena Europe's level. I also expect maintenance probably wasn't quite up to 'Europe's' level either.
Normandy did not have one loving owner unlike her sister.
I understand IF had a lot of catching up to do to keep her going especially with her engines, hence she was sold and did not go out on lease when she was replaced by Oscar Wilde,
Stena are upgrading their onboard wi-fi offer. Ironically, the new system is called Sealink!
QuoteMarlink is to roll out its customised Ku-band VSAT service, Sealink, on 27 Stena Line ferries operating in Scandinavia, the North Sea and the Irish Sea.
Aimed at increasing bandwidth and improving connectivity services, the contract also covers the installation of upgraded antennas, modems and routers, with next generation high throughput satellite (HTS) compatibility.
Stena Line will initially have access to 25 Mb/s of bandwidth to ensure it can meet the needs of the business, crew and passengers. Marlink is currently operating a test network on the next generation iDirect system, which will provide further bandwidth throughput and service availability.
"The new solution will give Stena Line vessels more bandwidth per vessel; more flexibility, stability and availability of communication services; better equipment reliability; improved satellite roaming and new back-up capabilities," said Robin Hernandez, regional sales manager at Marlink.
Stena will expand its Closed User Group policy to enable increased bandwidth to be allocated across its 27 ships to meet specific usage demands. For instance, a vessel sailing further offshore may require more VSAT bandwidth than a coastal vessel that can route telephony and data connectivity through 3G signal and other carriers using hybrid network functionality. By using the solution's adaptive code modulation function, the line can also achieve higher performance and stability during inclement weather.
Marlink's hybrid network solution will significantly improve internet access for passengers and crew, enabling them to benefit from onboard wi-fi and switch between satcoms and 3G signal via a dedicated local area network. The network also supports onboard third-party GSM voice, SMS and data services in addition to routing for 3rd party service providers such as navigation, digital signage and bank ATM devices
"Connectivity is a key differentiator for Stena Line, while high-quality telephony and internet access support our passengers' satisfaction, crew welfare and operational efficiency," said Raimo Warkki, commercials, ship communication and systems at Stena IT. "We have worked closely with Marlink for several years to develop and apply innovative new communication solutions designed to reduce costs and provide us with the facility to offer market leading connectivity services, which help to differentiate our offering in a very competitive marketplace."
Marlink first provided communication services on Stena Saga in 1996, before rolling them out to the rest of the fleet in 2001. The line uses Marlink's services for a range of applications including telephony and free internet access for passengers and crew; operational connectivity; and third party services such as onboard ATM and credit card authorisation.
http://www.cruiseandferry.net/article/News/001467/Stena-to-upgrade-VSAT-service
Quote from: Steven on June 06, 2014, 01:12:53 AM
Reports on dfe of another (minor) fire in the boiler room of Dieppe Seaways on Wednesday. I'm glad DFDS aren't responsible for overseeing the servicing of my car!!!!
Will upload Stena Hibernia pic's tomorrow.
My pics from yesterday are available here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/tarbyonline/
Unfortunately the heat haze proved somewhat troublesome, so these are the best of the batch!!
Regarding Normandy, like IFPete said IF didn't have the luxury of having owned her long term meaning she perhaps wasn't in as good shape as her sister. She also spent a year at Tallink prior to joining IF, prior to which she was laid up for a couple of months. However she has always been the less loved of the two sisters, spending most of her life away from Stena (although she was part of Sealink Stena/Stena Sealink from 90-96) which contrasts with Europe never leaving Stena.
The operation of Stena Superfast VII and VIII hasn't been plain sailing either with some problems creeping up from time to time, however Stena seem to be much better at not only solving these issues quickly but also preventing them from becoming public knowledge. Seafrance didnt have a great reputation for much, so it wouldn't surprise me if their maintenance was less than perfect. Certainly the older vessels in their fleet appeared to have been let decline quite a bit - its telling the former Fantasia is still in service in Northern Europe yet the former Fiesta went for breaking years ago. DFDS do seem to be rather fond of a fire though, which is always going to make headlines for all the wrong reasons. They say there is no such thing as bad publicity, but a fire onboard a ship (no matter how small) is never going to encourage more passengers!
Quote"Solar Solve Marine has recently received a large order for 38 class approved roller screens to be installed at the navigation bridge of the M/S Stena Feronia – a Passenger / Vehicle Ferry owned and operated by Stena Line
The vessel was built at Cantiere Navale Visentini in Italy and launched in 1996. Originally named Mersey Viking she was built for Norse Irish Ferries to operate between Liverpool and Belfast. She is 21,856 GT with a length of 186 meters and a beam of 25.6 meters. The vessel can carry 370 passengers and has 2,150 lane meters for carrying vehicles.
Solar Solve specializes in providing sun and glare protection for the marine and offshore industry, and SOLASOLV anti-glare screens are installed at the windows of all types of ships, rigs and cranes worldwide. Regarded as an essential safety product, they effectively reject up to 87% of heat and up to 93% of glare from the sun to significantly reduce eye-strain. Visual displays are easier to read and a clear outward view is maintained for safer navigation and marine operations. A more comfortable working environment means the ships' crew are less prone to fatigue which can cause human error. Suitable for newbuilds and retrofits, SOLASAFE screens are guaranteed for 7 years and Type Approved by Lloyds, ABS and DNV.
Paul Hopkins, Sales & Marketing Executive at Solar Solve commented, "This order for SOLASAFE sunscreens was yet another one from Stena Line having in the past ordered our products for the Stena Adventurer, Stena Voyager, Stena Explorer, Stena Britannica, Stena Leader, Stena Pioneer and also the Stena Transporter which shows that the company places great faith and value in our company and the products we manufacture."
http://www.maritime-executive.com/pressrelease/Stena-Feronia-Orders-Solasolv-Sunscreens-2014-06-12
Heres the Stena "brochure" on the emission regulations
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/~/media/Files/Freight/Broschure/Sulphur%20Brochure%202014%20-%20Final%20online%20version.ashx
Basically, they are waiting until the technologies are more developed before throwing a load of cash at it (and perhaps having to upgrade at a later date). Personally I think the methanol trial is an indication of how things may go in the longer term - like ethanol (bio-ethanaol) methanol can also be produced from waste products. For example the ethanol added to all maxol E5 (sold as standard unleaded)/E85 fuel in the Republic of Ireland is/was produced from a byproduct of cheese production. With more commercial incentive to produce bio fuels the production cost is also bound to come down, and unlike other fuels (including LNG) there isn't a finite supply.
Stena Alegra is due to finish her stint in New Zealand shortly and head to her next charter with Aratare now on her way back to resume service. No word on where her next charter is yet, but I believe something may be lined up for Alegra already.
http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=189161
Quote from: Steven on June 29, 2014, 08:41:08 PM
Stena Alegra is due to finish her stint in New Zealand shortly and head to her next charter with Aratare now on her way back to resume service. No word on where her next charter is yet, but I believe something may be lined up for Alegra already.
http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=189161
Wherever the Alegra is heading a drydock will be required to replace propeller blades, one damaged, one removed and also will possibly require some maintenance (and hopefully paint) when it more than likely returns to Northern Europe.
Quote from: giftgrub on June 29, 2014, 11:44:37 PM
Quote from: Steven on June 29, 2014, 08:41:08 PM
Stena Alegra is due to finish her stint in New Zealand shortly and head to her next charter with Aratare now on her way back to resume service. No word on where her next charter is yet, but I believe something may be lined up for Alegra already.
http://home.nzcity.co.nz/news/article.aspx?id=189161
Wherever the Alegra is heading a drydock will be required to replace propeller blades, one damaged, one removed and also will possibly require some maintenance (and hopefully paint) when it more than likely returns to Northern Europe.
Now there's a point. I wonder would it be more financially beneficial to repair her out there than sail her all the way back to Europe at less than full efficiency, and perhaps pay more for the repairs anyway? Anyway, we should know more in the next few days from her AIS movements if nothing else
Stena Mersey is currently suffering from technical difficulties meaning tonight's departure from Birkenhead is delayed by 3 hours on Ferry Check. She is currently only managing about 12 knots.
Hopefully this isn't a repeat of last years difficulties with Lagan. On a personal note I'm due to travel on Mersey next week, and was affected on Lagan last year. Fingers crossed its nothing major though as the Holiday season is in full swing in NI and the ferries are usually very busy at this time of year.
Quote from: Steven on July 01, 2014, 07:55:30 PM
Stena Mersey is currently suffering from technical difficulties meaning tonight's departure from Birkenhead is delayed by 3 hours on Ferry Check. She is currently only managing about 12 knots.
Hopefully this isn't a repeat of last years difficulties with Lagan. On a personal note I'm due to travel on Mersey next week, and was affected on Lagan last year. Fingers crossed its nothing major though as the Holiday season is in full swing in NI and the ferries are usually very busy at this time of year.
Stena Mersey off service today whilst the engineers work to fix one of her engines.
Stena Mersey must have been hanging out with the European Highlander. Picked up some probs in the mechanical dept! ;D
Stena Mersey was back in service this morning and even exceeded 22kts during her voyage. Hopefully all sorted now ahead of my trip next week!
anyone know what's going on in Rosslare with Stena Horizon, she is shown on AIS to be docked alongside berth 1 and so does the Inishmore?
Stena Nautica has had a bit of an accident in Grenaa
Quotetena ferry holed
A Stena ferry took on water after sustaining a five-metre crack in its hull in a collision with a breakwater in Denmark.
The damage to Stena Nautica
The damage to Stena Nautica
Local reports said the incident involving the 596-passenger Stena Nautica (built 1986) occurred in the early hours of Tuesday as it was leaving Grenaa.
It was holed in the engine compartment, but passengers were not in danger.
Oil booms were laid out as a precaution and divers checked the hull.
Work began later in the morning to weld the 5m by 20cm crack.
Pumps were used to get rid of the water.
An investigation has begun.
http://www.tradewindsnews.com/casualties/340631/Stena-ferry-holed
Quote from: Steven on July 09, 2014, 04:42:49 PM
Stena Nautica has had a bit of an accident in Grenaa
Quotetena ferry holed
A Stena ferry took on water after sustaining a five-metre crack in its hull in a collision with a breakwater in Denmark.
The damage to Stena Nautica
The damage to Stena Nautica
Local reports said the incident involving the 596-passenger Stena Nautica (built 1986) occurred in the early hours of Tuesday as it was leaving Grenaa.
It was holed in the engine compartment, but passengers were not in danger.
Oil booms were laid out as a precaution and divers checked the hull.
Work began later in the morning to weld the 5m by 20cm crack.
Pumps were used to get rid of the water.
An investigation has begun.
http://www.tradewindsnews.com/casualties/340631/Stena-ferry-holed
Also, from the Copenhagen Post
QuoteA Stena Line ferry carrying 156 passengers crashed into a jetty in Grenaa Harbour in Jutland last night, Jyllands-Posten reports.
The crash happened at around 00:40 when the ship was leaving the harbour. It caused a minor leak inside the engine room, which led to the captain aboard Stena Nauticus turning the ship around.
All the passengers safely left the ship in their cars and no-one was harmed, according to a police report.
Has happened before
It isn't the first time that Stena Nautica has been involved in an accident. Ten years ago, a Polish cargo vessel crashed into the ferry in Varberg. Stena Nautica took on water and 91 passengers and 23 crew members had to be evacuated onto lifeboats.
The scale of the damage is not yet known, but Stena Line reported that an investigation will be carried out today. Floating barrages have been laid out to contain the oil spill.
http://cphpost.dk/news/passenger-ferry-crashes-into-jetty-in-jutland.10152.html
Just what I wanted to hear hours before I board Mersey ;)
EDIT: stena site saying no Grenaa service until the 21st July
I think I'm right in thinking this isn't the first time the Nautica has been in bother. I cant quite remember, but I'm sure she has been in an incident where she was taking on water. I think there was a truck fire as well a while back.
The Stena Nautica is currently being repaired in Odense shipyard after being damaged on July 9th, all booked traffic has been transferred to Gothenberg - Fredrickshaven - Stena Danica / Stena Jutlandica
Image of the vessel under tow on this link.
http://photos.marinetraffic.com/ais/showphoto.aspx?photoid=1696917&size=1600
In 2004 the vessel was in a collision with the freighter Joanna and took on water and had some other damage, in Jan 2013 a truck went on fire during a crossing.
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/niels_klim_1986.htm
The Stena Alegra has finished its work in New Zealand and is currently heading to Singapore - one assumes to the shipyard for some much needed tlc and possibly further work outside Europe ?
The Stena Egeria seems to be running well in service between China and Korea, according to port times on marine traffic.
http://matkustajalaivat.com/Ferries/StenaLine/StenaEgeria2001/etusivu.htm
I think Stena Europe will be staying on the Irish Sea.
I have heard than Stena Nordica will be moving to the Baltic to replace the chartered Stena Baltica upon the arrival of the new Stena Superfast on the Dublin - Holyhead Route.
Interesting indeed Steam Packet. Bit of work still to do for Stena Europe before she gets to retire and relax!
Here's something else interesting - You can now book to sail until later next year on the Stena site. No mention of Superfast yet (she will replace Nordica's slots) but there is something else you can book from March 25th :)
Pete
It didn't occur to me what the something else could be until I used the booking engine! Very uplifting news regarding HSS Stena Explorer seeing another season. Running until Tuesday 8th September 2015 (inclusive) according to the booking engine. Any why not? The adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" comes to mind. The vessel is probably well fit to operate into the next decade.
Great to hear that HSS Stena Explorer will be staying on the Irish Sea for at least another year. When the new Stena Superfast arrives in Holyhead sometime next year? Will she have the same fittings etc as the Superfast's on the North Channel?
Quote from: Steam Packet on July 14, 2014, 11:02:38 PM
I think Stena Europe will be staying on the Irish Sea.
I have heard than Stena Nordica will be moving to the Baltic to replace the chartered Stena Baltica upon the arrival of the new Stena Superfast on the Dublin - Holyhead Route.
I heard this a while back, but nothing is concrete yet. Certainly Nordica would be a good replacement for Baltica on her current route. I have also heard of another ship linked to Fishguard for next year, and it isn't Europe ;).
Regarding Explorer, I wouldn't get the party poppers out yet lads. What I can say for certain is to continue operating throughout 2015 she is going to need BIG money spent on her. If nothing else her appearance on the booking engine could be to test the market for keeping her. With a significant investment already being made can the bean counters really sanction a big investment in the last of a breed of ship which is loosing money?
As for the Dublin Superfast, while I know nothing for certain I wouldn't be surprised if she is not identical to her sisters. Dublin-Holyhead is a very different proposition to Belfast-Cairnryan.
Any idea what might be replacing the Nordica / Europe?
MFL are clutching to Rodin and Berlioz, so DFDS might be needing Dieppe for a while longer.
As for Nordica doing Fishguard I would have thought her a wee bit too small in terms of passenger capacity. I don't think she is too bad as the running mate of a larger vessel, but as a lone soldier, on a route which is aimed, and a brand that is aimed at passengers, it could be a bad move. Stena Europe may be elderly, but she still is very popular, and gives a lot of the much younger Stena ships a 'run for their money'.
Stena Line Freight have released their latest edition of Freight News:
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/news-1/news-4
http://www.stenalinefreight.com/~/media/Files/Freight/freight-news/freight-news-july-2014.ashx
and also at the end of June released a new promotional video for the Freight operations:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3R9PM1Yevs
Quote from: TC on July 16, 2014, 06:29:19 PM
MFL are clutching to Rodin and Berlioz, so DFDS might be needing Dieppe for a while longer.
From what I hear they won't have a say in the matter. From November they will either need to replace her or shut down the Calais operation. DFDS do not own the ship, Stena do.
As for Nordica I have yet to hear anything apart from speculation. I have been told (as previously posted) it would not be too difficult or expensive to raise her passenger certificate if required. However she would be a good fit in her current state as a replacement for Baltica should Stena/BF not extend their arrangement. For Europe to stay in these waters much longer she will require investment. A more modern vessel would also cost much less to run than Europe, and perhaps help guarantee the long term viability of the Fishguard link
I'm wondering would MFL / Eurotunnel sell their ships to DFDS. I cant really see that happening, even if their a good fit. It would be like rubbing salt in the wounds, and the French workforce probably would be furious. Dieppe does fit in fairly well with DFDS. Not the most perfect running mate of Calais Seaways, but not too bad, especially if they opt to keep her long term, give her a refit, and maybe sign a long term lease from Stena (along the lines of P&O's arrangement with Irish Ferries for Pride of Bilbao).
I agree Europe wont go on forever, and considering Normady was retired from Rosslare six years ago, Europe probably hasn't much time left.
Nordica would be a bit of a step backwards for the route as she isn't on the same level as Isle of Inishmore or Europe for passenger comfort ect (a good ship though all in all). Going to the Baltic is a possibility. I personally think she would be a good replacement for the Stena Nautica (who isn't much younger than 'Europe').
To be honest she wouldn't be bad as a replacement for Stena Horizon, and she's fully kitted out Stena vessel, and is certainly an improvement. Ironic really as back when she was P&O's European Ambassador, she proved very popular on the route. The saying 'little steps towards a big future' comes to mind when thinking about Stena's Cherbourg operations.
Quote from: TC on July 18, 2014, 01:15:31 AM
I'm wondering would MFL / Eurotunnel sell their ships to DFDS. I cant really see that happening, even if their a good fit. It would be like rubbing salt in the wounds, and the French workforce probably would be furious. Dieppe does fit in fairly well with DFDS. Not the most perfect running mate of Calais Seaways, but not too bad, especially if they opt to keep her long term, give her a refit, and maybe sign a long term lease from Stena (along the lines of P&O's arrangement with Irish Ferries for Pride of Bilbao).
I agree Europe wont go on forever, and considering Normady was retired from Rosslare six years ago, Europe probably hasn't much time left.
Nordica would be a bit of a step backwards for the route as she isn't on the same level as Isle of Inishmore or Europe for passenger comfort ect (a good ship though all in all). Going to the Baltic is a possibility. I personally think she would be a good replacement for the Stena Nautica (who isn't much younger than 'Europe').
To be honest she wouldn't be bad as a replacement for Stena Horizon, and she's fully kitted out Stena vessel, and is certainly an improvement. Ironic really as back when she was P&O's European Ambassador, she proved very popular on the route. The saying 'little steps towards a big future' comes to mind when thinking about Stena's Cherbourg operations.
The original purchase agreement prohibits the sale of Berlioz and Rodin for 5 years, not sure if this applies to charters as well though iirc it was originally stated that Eurotunnels chartered them out to MFL/SCOP (though it has since transpired that much of what was said back then was rubbish anyway). From what I have heard the French crew would rather dry dock the ships than have them operate for DFDS. Still, Eurotunnels shareholders I'm sure would like to see some sort of return, but I imagine the words strike and blockade would be in the news as a result. Calais Seaways is no spring chicken either, but could solve the tonnage problem at Portsmouth or move on. The fact remains that there is still too much capacity to Calais despite recent growth.
Nordica of course could operate Horizon's schedule but the existing vessel is a good fit for the route as well. Jutlandica could be an option for Fishguard but I'm sure it would be a battle to get her, particularly with a lack of options to run opposite the ageing Stena Danica and with HSS Carisma's fate seemingly sealed. I'm sure though, Stena have a well thought out plan and given their experience an expertise anything is possible. Unfortunately we only have crumbs to go on, but I have a feeling there could be a twist/surprise in store. There is change expected in the European ferry market so we may see some shifting of capacity around the network as well. Europe isn't the only old lady in the Stena fleet, though she is the eldest as well as being unique. Apart from Dieppe Seaways coming to Dublin we really can't be sure of much else.
Hi Guys, been away for a few days but have kept my ear to the ground ;)
Firstly, I have heard that Dieppe Seaways/Superfast X should be in place at Dublin early in the new year. There is no question of her going anywhere else. Still don't know the full extent of the plans for her refit but I believe they intend to spend significant money on her.
As for Nordica, I haven't heard anything concrete yet. The replacing Stena Baltica rumour still persists but there are other possibilities as well not including Fishguard - Europe could be around for a while yet. While her sister was withdrawn 6 years ago, Europe has spent her entire life with Stena rather than being pushed between engineering teams like her sister. I believe she is actually in very good condition considering her age.
It is fair to say though that in the next few years we can expect to see some shuffling around of Stena's Baltic fleet due to a combination of the age of the tonnage and of course the upcoming emissions legislation. Stena of course continue to look for new opportunities so we may well see a surprise or two :o.
Regarding HSS Explorer, those on Facebook will have already possibly seen the post regarding her requiring not only dry docking but also MES renewal. This would come at a significant cost. I believe Explorer's carryings continue to be low, despite some cracking offers. I would be very surprised if Stena invested the cash into keeping Explorer running given not only her high running costs, but also her low takings and the seasonal nature of her operation.
Going back to the Baltic fleet, while Europe is the oldest in the UK and IE fleet many of the Baltic vessels are not very far behind her, with one being older:
Ask (1982)
Stena Danica (1983)
Stena Saga (1981 - just a month younger than Europe)
Stena Scanrail (1973! Though a freighter)
Trelleborg (1982)
Urd (1981)
If (as expected) Contentin/Stena Baltica returns to BF, they probably aren't going to need Stena owned Etretat any more which could potentially be a straight swap on the Stena side as well. However, there are other places a Visentini could be useful other than as 3rd ship on Karlskrona - Gdynia.
Quote from: Steven on July 18, 2014, 03:53:55 AM
The original purchase agreement prohibits the sale of Berlioz and Rodin for 5 years, not sure if this applies to charters as well though iirc it was originally stated that Eurotunnels chartered them out to MFL/SCOP (though it has since transpired that much of what was said back then was rubbish anyway). From what I have heard the French crew would rather dry dock the ships than have them operate for DFDS. Still, Eurotunnels shareholders I'm sure would like to see some sort of return, but I imagine the words strike and blockade would be in the news as a result. Calais Seaways is no spring chicken either, but could solve the tonnage problem at Portsmouth or move on. The fact remains that there is still too much capacity to Calais despite recent growth.
A little more on this (and straying off topic).
The consequences of any action in the French ports could be catastrophic for the ferry companies involved. The current crop of vessels do not have internal ramps fitted for a start. This means that Zeebrugge isnt an option like it used to be as there is no double deck linkspan anymore to my knowledge. It is fair to say if Calais gets blocked then Dunkerque may also be given it is DFDS's main operation. Even so, Spirit of Britain and Spirit of France wouldn't physically fit in the berths at Dunkerque so far as I know. Ostend is another option (providing the facilities are in usable order still), but again there are restrictions on the size of vessels which can be handled there (180m comes to mind - the D Class are 187m long). Boulogne of course had a nice new port built not so many years ago, but I believe this has been mothballed now due to the need to cut costs and the lack of an operator. Again, afaik there is a size restriction.
Anyway even if somehow the restriction on the resale of Rodin and Berlioz was overturned, previous events (SeaFance's demise) point to the vessels being occupied by the crews/unions. MFL/SCOP are not just going to go away I'm afraid! However, I personally feel if the restriction was lifted Eurotunnel would also push to have the restriction on the operating area lifted - if only to maximise the sale value. Eurotunnel have made significant financial investments in MFL to keep it running and will want to maximise the return on the assets. Stena have been interested in the vessels before and I'm sure other operators would be as well. For example (and I haven't researched this heavily or heard any rumours), its not inconceivable that they could replace Danica and Jutlandica after having some cabins fitted and refurbished to be more like their half sister; Tallink's Star. Likewise, i'm sure such modern and high capacity vessels would be interesting to a variety of operators around Europe and Beyond. They are still young enough to justify an operator investing in converting them to a new role.
Steven thanks for the latest info on the explorer, as you said a bit of money needed to be spent by stena to keep her going for another year.so will it be the end for the hss,personally I think christmas might be her last hurrah (any idea when we should know for sure?) and like last christmas with some stormy weather we might see her flying across the Irish Sea at over 40 knots. It's just not the same traveling at only 25 knots on her, and I think that is part of the reason she has lost some of her appeal ,along with the huge extra premium you have to pay to travel on her compared to the nordica it can be as much as 80 to 100 euro extra for a family of 2 adults and 2children with car on a return journey.so I don't think her offers are that fantastic. I really do feel that if stena had slashed the hss prices lower than nordica ,then a lot more traffic would be booked on her after all people do like to get a good deal at the end of the day,and to save a few euro.
Quote from: TC on July 18, 2014, 01:15:31 AM
I'm wondering would MFL / Eurotunnel sell their ships to DFDS. I cant really see that happening, even if their a good fit. It would be like rubbing salt in the wounds, and the French workforce probably would be furious. Dieppe does fit in fairly well with DFDS. Not the most perfect running mate of Calais Seaways, but not too bad, especially if they opt to keep her long term, give her a refit, and maybe sign a long term lease from Stena (along the lines of P&O's arrangement with Irish Ferries for Pride of Bilbao).
I agree Europe wont go on forever, and considering Normady was retired from Rosslare six years ago, Europe probably hasn't much time left.
Nordica would be a bit of a step backwards for the route as she isn't on the same level as Isle of Inishmore or Europe for passenger comfort ect (a good ship though all in all). Going to the Baltic is a possibility. I personally think she would be a good replacement for the Stena Nautica (who isn't much younger than 'Europe').
To be honest she wouldn't be bad as a replacement for Stena Horizon, and she's fully kitted out Stena vessel, and is certainly an improvement. Ironic really as back when she was P&O's European Ambassador, she proved very popular on the route. The saying 'little steps towards a big future' comes to mind when thinking about Stena's Cherbourg operations.
I think DFDs will be the last company to receive the MyFerryLink Ferries.
Maybe they will end up in the hands of irish ferries.
It appears DFDs are looking at pulling out of Calais and concentrating on Dunkerque in 2015,
I can imagine Eurotunnel will be forced to divest in MyFerryLink,
I think DFDs will be the last company to receive the MyFerryLink Ferries.
Maybe they will end up in the hands of irish ferries.
It appears DFDs are looking at pulling out of Calais and concentrating on Dunkerque in 2015,
I can imagine Eurotunnel will be forced to divest in MyFerryLink,
Quote from: Stena explorer on August 02, 2014, 10:59:50 PM
Steven thanks for the latest info on the explorer, as you said a bit of money needed to be spent by stena to keep her going for another year.so will it be the end for the hss,personally I think christmas might be her last hurrah (any idea when we should know for sure?) and like last christmas with some stormy weather we might see her flying across the Irish Sea at over 40 knots. It's just not the same traveling at only 25 knots on her, and I think that is part of the reason she has lost some of her appeal ,along with the huge extra premium you have to pay to travel on her compared to the nordica it can be as much as 80 to 100 euro extra for a family of 2 adults and 2children with car on a return journey.so I don't think her offers are that fantastic. I really do feel that if stena had slashed the hss prices lower than nordica ,then a lot more traffic would be booked on her after all people do like to get a good deal at the end of the day,and to save a few euro.
Specifically I was referring to the offers for foot passengers from Holyhead such as the £35 day trip and also the £5 non lander. So far as I can see the HSS is only still there to stop IF picking up too much of the day trip market. More passengers = higher costs as well, so yes while you say if they dumped fares earnings would go up this would also result in costs going up.
Quote from: IFPete on August 02, 2014, 11:25:53 PM
I think DFDs will be the last company to receive the MyFerryLink Ferries.
Maybe they will end up in the hands of irish ferries.
It appears DFDs are looking at pulling out of Calais and concentrating on Dunkerque in 2015,
I can imagine Eurotunnel will be forced to divest in MyFerryLink,
The problem is that Eurotunnel cannot sell the ships as things stand. This was written into the purchase agreement. They also must operate to France. Likewise SCOP and the French very much see them as their ships. Had any of this been about anything other than jobs and national pride, the ships would not have been sold to Eurotunnel but to one of the other offers which would have raised more cash. Eurotunnel got the 3 ships for a bargain price (basically 3 for the price of 1), simply because of the restrictions they agreed to. The best case scenario would be for someone to come in and takeover/invest in the MFL operation to make it independent of Eurotunnel. One thing is that MFL seem to be paying a charter fee that is well below the market rate at present, so if Eurotunnel where allowed to charter the ships out they could probably earn more from them. However, as I have said above even if this was the case the unions arent going to take to kindly to their "right" to run a ferry service from Calais being taken away.
My understanding of the UK court order is that Eurotunnel have to either sell on the operation or shut it down. Selling on an operation making such big losses and with the restrictions currently in place is going to be a big ask.
I think any further discussion of the MFL debacle should go here
http://www.irish-ferries-enthusiasts.com/forum/index.php?topic=598.15
(http://www.irish-ferries-enthusiasts.com/forum/index.php?topic=598.15)Unless directly related to Stena
HSS Voyager appears to have left the water for the last time, and has been dragged up the slipway for what I assume is the final dismantling of her hulls.
On a slightly related note, I did a return trip on Stena Superfast VIII on Tuesday taking advantage of Stenas £10 day trip to Ayr promotion. I'm pleased to report that she still appears to be in excellent condition (with the exception perhaps of the doors out to the smoking area/outside deck on deck7) and was quite full on the way out and especially the way back. Likewise both terminal buildings are also in excellent condition and the whole operation seems to have been maintained in as new condition. The crew and staff are obviously rightly proud of their ship and operation.
I hope to add a short report to my website and an interior gallery (though many of the pics will be from Scott Mackey due to the business of my crossings) in the next week once I get some technical issues (I.e. the WD MyCloud piece of junk which acts as my backup drive replaced) sorted out. For those of you up in the North here though I can think of much worse ways to spend £10 than a day trip on the Superfast!
Depending on what happens next month with Scotlands independence referendum the Belfast - Cairnryan service could be in for a boom , if Scotland votes to become independent then ferries traveling between Scotland and Northern Ireland will for the first time be crossing an international frontier.
While there may be drawbacks for ferry operations (passport controls ect) I would not be too worried about the Northern Irish routes no longer being internal shipping routes and becoming international routes as both Stena and P&O maintain their services to international standards anyway , but the routes will qualify for duty free sales until such time as Scotland decides weather it wants to be in the EU or not.
Of course all that depends on what the people of Scotland decide to do next month , personally I am neither for or against Scottish independence as I can see the pro's and cons of both options , but would wish them well no matter what they decide to do.
I never knew that Stena once operated in Canada...
http://ferriesbc.proboards.com/thread/8108
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on August 12, 2014, 04:47:54 PM
I never knew that Stena once operated in Canada...
http://ferriesbc.proboards.com/thread/8108
Yup, it was their first venture outside Scandinavia IiRC and not a success. They are quite a fascinating organisation once you dig in to them a bit!
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on August 12, 2014, 04:47:54 PM
I never knew that Stena once operated in Canada...
http://ferriesbc.proboards.com/thread/8108
There was a thread on here about a year or so again about BC Stena Line. They pulled out when they bought Sealink.
Matt
Some bits from the freight newsletter
QuoteStena Line transporting agricultural machinery into Europe.
The Rosslare to Cherbourg service is well on its way within the Stena Line network. It has created an agricultural hub within Rosslare in association with the Rosslare to Fishguard service. Both the Fishguard and Cherbourg routes regularly carry agricultural machinery such as feeders, bailers, tractors and combine harvesters.
Whilst the number of units being shipped is relatively small on an annual basis compared to standard freight, the machines themselves can be quite large and vary between 4m to 15m in length and 5 to 20 tonne in weight.
Positive co-operation between the ports; Fishguard, Cherbourg, Rosslare, and the Stena Line freight department
contributed hugely to the continued success and growth of this market. We believe the port facilities are vital to operations. The Stena line tugs in Fishguard have specialised attachments for loading and discharging of machinery. While both Rosslare and Cherbourg ports have the availability of on site tractors and raised platforms for loading and discharging of machinery off flat body trailers.
Ben Radford, Area Sales Manager
QuoteThe Irish Sea Freight market continues to strengthen, economies on both sides of the water benefit
from the recovery.
With hindsight, the real turning point appears to have been the second quarter in 2013. Since then, there
has been sustained growth in freight volumes supported by other indicators; sometimes from surprising sources. For example, Government statistics show a very definite upward trend in Irish motorway traffic volumes from May 2013. Broadly speaking the economic recovery has been export led with domestic consumption lagging behind. However, as greater confidence returns to home markets we could expect to see an improved trade balance on the Irish Sea, particularly now the Construction Industry gathers momentum.
We recognise our own customer's freight markets remain very competitive and there has been some obvious 'customer contract churn' in recent months. However, much of the excess freight capacity has now been absorbed, so much so, that order wait lists for new goods vehicles and trailers is at an all-time high and we hear of difficulties in recruiting drivers in some regions.
Many transport contractors are now in position to be more selective in the type of business they accept, to drive
utilisation, yield and ultimately a profit margin. In the new business environment, buyers of services will need to be more aware of their service provider's capability to deliver the very best combination of reliability, service and price. At Stena Line we believe that taking care on all fronts will deliver winners in the long run. Stena Line continues to innovate and invest in new services and tonnage, a process that has continued throughout the recession. Stena Line is now in position to offer the most extensive network of modern ships and routes throughout Europe. We are there to support youin broadening your business providing an extensive, dependable platform for growth.
Richard Horswill
Head of Freight
Area Irish Sea
Its rather rough up here today, so Stena's Superfast's are deviating from their normal routes resulting in delays. At present Superfast VIII is Belfast bound but her course was towards Larne until she swung south around half way across. Likewise her Cairnryan bound course was far from normal as well. See the attached screenshot.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2ajafhk0adwo6c/Screenshot%202014-08-17%2017.29.51.png)
Edit: Forum doesn't like the file, try this link instead https://db.tt/StiTDiRy (https://db.tt/StiTDiRy)
Quote from: Steven on August 17, 2014, 05:31:44 PM
Its rather rough up here today, so Stena's Superfast's are deviating from their normal routes resulting in delays. At present Superfast VIII is Belfast bound but her course was towards Larne until she swung south around half way across. Likewise her Cairnryan bound course was far from normal as well. See the attached screenshot.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2ajafhk0adwo6c/Screenshot%202014-08-17%2017.29.51.png)
Steven, I don't think that pic uploaded... :)
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on August 17, 2014, 05:33:44 PM
Quote from: Steven on August 17, 2014, 05:31:44 PM
Its rather rough up here today, so Stena's Superfast's are deviating from their normal routes resulting in delays. At present Superfast VIII is Belfast bound but her course was towards Larne until she swung south around half way across. Likewise her Cairnryan bound course was far from normal as well. See the attached screenshot.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/m2ajafhk0adwo6c/Screenshot%202014-08-17%2017.29.51.png)
Steven, I don't think that pic uploaded... :)
(sort of) fixed now. I should explain that the ship behind her is European Highlander following a slightly more northern than usual course. European Causeway and Stena Superfast VIII are almost alongside each other at present it appears, as they approach the Scottish coastline.
Also, Stena's ferry check appears to be a bit broken - apparently the 19:30 sailing has already left Belfast at 17:40!
https://db.tt/4Lb3Reft (https://db.tt/4Lb3Reft)
The Birkenhead - Belfast sailing was delayed by approx 45 mins this morning though in the other direction Stena Mersey left on time but looks to be arriving approx 15 mins late.
A yellow weather warning for wind is currently in force for Northern Ireland and Scotland, with Seatruck reporting Gale Force 8 on their website at present.
Does anyone know if Stena still sell the little toy Stena Line boats in Stena Shopping on Stena Superfasts or Birkenhead sisters?
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on August 17, 2014, 05:54:54 PM
Does anyone know if Stena still sell the little toy Stena Line boats in Stena Shopping on Stena Superfasts or Birkenhead sisters?
Unfortunately no. They are doing away with all the branded stuff. All that remains are some pens, postcards, notepads and lighters on SSF VIII, on Mersey all they had was lighters last month. Unfortunately it not only costs a premium to have made but doesn't really sell that well. I'm sure they can find something much more profitable to put in the space!
I may be the proud owner of the last HSS pen sold on Stena Superfast VIII!
Stena aren't alone. Last week went on European Endeavour. P&O have abandoned most of the 'P&O' branded products in gift shop on Endeavour. A lot of stock though. ).
I expected to return on the Norbank, but on the morning spotted European Endeavour distinctive two funnels. She had a big load of passengers (70 cars). Quite busy now.
Outbound (Dublin - Liverpool sailing) European Endeavour had an IRISH captain!! Nice touch.
All ferry compaines seem to be getting rid of their branded stuff in their onboard shops, Irish Ferries have also got rid of their branded stock a no. Of years ago.
Pity, I would have thought that at least, the toy ships would have been a sure seller for gifts - for both the kids and the bigger kids. (We all have a bath-time, right?)
I'm still kicking myself for not buying a model HSS for my 2 year old Godson when we went to Dun Laoghaire back in 2003. Reason, he wasn't interested at the time. Last week we were in Holyhead. Although we weren't sailing anywhere he wanted to know allsorts about the ferries and even started reading some of my ferry books.
Quote from: Davy Jones on August 18, 2014, 02:46:35 PM
Pity, I would have thought that at least, the toy ships would have been a sure seller for gifts - for both the kids and the bigger kids. (We all have a bath-time, right?)
I'm still kicking myself for not buying a model HSS for my 2 year old Godson when we went to Dun Laoghaire back in 2003. Reason, he wasn't interested at the time. Last week we were in Holyhead. Although we weren't sailing anywhere he wanted to know allsorts about the ferries and even started reading some of my ferry books.
Keep an eye out on eBay. They pop up from time to time. In fact there was one on just last week.
News from Germany is saying that Germanica is to be converted to Methanol after all, in January 2015. This seems to be the article which translated best:
QuoteStena Germanica January 2015 methanol-drive
Kiel, August 4, 2014 - Stena Germanica ferry which operates daily between Kiel and Gothenburg, converted to January 2015 as the first ro-pax ship the Stena Line fleet to methanol-drive. This particularly innovative drive system, the ferry meets the stringent environmental guidelines, which come into force from 01 January 2015.
ID: 1092096 vorherige Pressemitteilung nächste Pressemitteilung
(In-press) - The conversion will affect all prime movers of the Stena Germanica; the existing ballast tanks in the double bottom of the ferry to be converted to methanol tanks. In cooperation with the engine manufacturer Wärtsilä Stena Line swings it in the shipping industry a particularly innovative way that will be supported in part by EU funding.
One of the great advantages of methanol as a fuel is that virtually all emissions of sulfur and nitrogen oxides and particles are significantly minimized. For this fuel meets the new requirements for reduced sulfur emissions in North and Baltic Sea. Both waters are among the so-called Sulphur Emission Control Areas (SECA). As of 01 January 2015 fuels must be burned with a sulfur mass fraction of at most 0.1% in SECA only. It methanol as a fuel is just as safe as, for example, the more commonly used LNG (liquefied natural gas) or marine diesel, which comes first on all other ferries of Stena Line used.
"Over time we want to bring to all vessels, regions and routes specified and tailored solutions on the way," says Bjarne Koitrand, Technical Operations Director. "We weigh all options. It is relatively simple, first switch to Marine Diesel. But we also consider the use of scrubbers, LNG and methanol. And in this context, we have decided that Stena Germanica convert to methanol. The conversion works in this case. Principle, but this is always dependent on the type of vessel and the route, "said Koitrand.
The article above appears to have originated from Stena's German PR agency.
http://www.news-in-industry.de/stena-germanica-ab-januar-2015-mit-methanol-antrieb-159517.html/
As I have mentioned before, I think if the trial is successful Methanol is a more exciting prospect than gas. The ability to use existing (ballast) tanks for one reduces the need for expensive new tanks for one and methanol (wood alcohol) can be manufactured rather than being a finite natural resource like oil and gas.
Stena Horizon docked in Rosslare this morning alongside berth 2 and has now moved to berth 3. Anyone know why?
From Stena's official Facebook account regarding Explorer. This is far from encouraging IMHO
(http://www.imageserv.tarbyonline.com/explorer.jpg)
There is a rumour Ive just heard that superfast 10 is staying with dfds and that the HSS will do another season after a drydocking. This is only a rumour at the momment.
I think its a bit late in the day for Dieppe Seaways to move north. I think DFDS are pretty satisfied with her performance, and it could be putting the Calais route in jeopardy letting her go without a suitable replacement. Chartering 'Stena Baltica' from BF could be a solution, but she's hardly a good running mate for Calais Seaways.
Quote from: TC on August 26, 2014, 06:11:40 PM
I think its a bit late in the day for Dieppe Seaways to move north. I think DFDS are pretty satisfied with her performance, and it could be putting the Calais route in jeopardy letting her go without a suitable replacement. Chartering 'Stena Baltica' from BF could be a solution, but she's hardly a good running mate for Calais Seaways.
Whilst nothing is certain until an official announcement is made, it is by no means late in the day for Dieppe Seaways to move. For all we know, DFDS could shut the loss making Calais operation down tomorrow. Dieppe Seaways isn't an ideal fit for Dover - Calais anyway. Given DFDS have already closed some loss making or potentially loss making routes this year and have publicly announced that they are considering the future of the Calais link I think it is highly likely they will pull the plug and move all traffic to Dunkirk. The MFL situation is not going to go away no matter what the UK courts and authorities decide.
Quote from: Steven on August 26, 2014, 07:53:58 PM
Quote from: TC on August 26, 2014, 06:11:40 PM
I think its a bit late in the day for Dieppe Seaways to move north. I think DFDS are pretty satisfied with her performance, and it could be putting the Calais route in jeopardy letting her go without a suitable replacement. Chartering 'Stena Baltica' from BF could be a solution, but she's hardly a good running mate for Calais Seaways.
Whilst nothing is certain until an official announcement is made, it is by no means late in the day for Dieppe Seaways to move. For all we know, DFDS could shut the loss making Calais operation down tomorrow. Dieppe Seaways isn't an ideal fit for Dover - Calais anyway. Given DFDS have already closed some loss making or potentially loss making routes this year and have publicly announced that they are considering the future of the Calais link I think it is highly likely they will pull the plug and move all traffic to Dunkirk. The MFL situation is not going to go away no matter what the UK courts and authorities decide.
Another thing is that Dieppe Seaways does have technical trouble, for instance her stern thrust unit apparently no longer works. Given she is over 203m long this significantly impairs her ability to manoeuvre at low speed. Whoever operates her going forward will need to spend a significant sum to get her back into top notch technical condition. Stena may still be open to offers for her, but it would need to be a huge offer to get them to part with her. After all, they will need to find an alternative elsewhere. Likewise, DFDS may somehow succeed in acquiring Rodin and Berlioz (though this would need the original sale contract to Eurotunnel to be challenged, and the crews to actually let them be taken over). With MARPOL looming costs on the Dover Strait are about to increase again as well. Can DFDS really afford to run both Dover operations?
Thanks to Chris Brindle for the link. The closest thing yet to official confirmation Dieppe Seaways is coming to Dublin:
http://www.cargotec.com/en-global/newsroom/Releases/press-releases/Pages/macgregor-conversion-expertise-secures-new-order-from-1851367-Wed-27-Aug-2014-11-00.aspx
QuoteCARGOTEC CORPORATION, PRESS RELEASE, 27 AUGUST 2014 AT 11 AM (EEST)
MacGregor, part of Cargotec, has received a contract from Stena North Sea Ltd to convert the 29,800gt RoPax ferry Dieppe Seaways to optimise it for its new route between Dublin and Holyhead in Ireland. The order further strengthens MacGregor's position as the first choice supplier for RoRo conversions and was booked into the second quarter 2014 order intake.
MacGregor's RoRo conversion team is no stranger to the vessel, which will be renamed Stena Superfast X, originally altering the ferry in 2008 to suit new operations across the English Channel. Its present needs dictate a return to the vessel's original design.
"MacGregor's long relationship and close cooperation with Stena RoRo on previous conversion and newbuilding projects secured the order," says Stefan Wide, Director of RoRo Conversion & Port Solutions at MacGregor. "It shows that our customers appreciate our ability to provide solutions for their vessels not only at the newbuilding stage, but also when the vessels are in operation."
MacGregor will supply a complete 'turnkey' delivery of RoRo cargo access equipment which includes the design, hardware and installation of bow doors, a bow ramp, a new watertight door and a stern ramp. The installation will be completed in January 2015.
The contract also included a wide range of feasibility studies to verify the interfaces between the onboard ramps and port-side equipment.
"We work closely with customers during all stages of a project to find the best technical and cost-efficient solutions to suit each individual vessel, both on board and at the port interface," adds Mr Wide.
Caption: MacGregor's conversion team is no stranger to the vessel, originally altering the ferry in 2008.
For further information please contact
Stefan Wide, Director, RoRo Conversions & Port Solutions, tel. +46 31 850 719
Email: stefan.wide@macgregor.com
or
Heli Malkavaara, Communications, MacGregor, tel. +358 20 777 4500
Email: heli.malkavaara@macgregor.com
MacGregor offers world leading engineering solutions and services for handling marine cargoes and offshore loads. The scope of our integrated packages is growing and now also includes Hatlapa, Porsgrunn, Pusnes and Triplex products.
MacGregor serves the offshore, maritime transportation and naval logistics markets in ports and terminals as well as on board ships and rigs. MacGregor solutions combine load and cargo access, stowage, care and handling functions to optimise lifetime profitability, productivity and environmental sustainability. www.macgregor.com
MacGregor is part of Cargotec. Cargotec's sales totalled approximately EUR 3.2 billion in 2013 and it employs approximately 11,000 people. Cargotec's class B shares are quoted on NASDAQ OMX Helsinki under symbol CGCBV. www.cargotec.co
Quote from: Steven on August 27, 2014, 10:14:10 AM
Thanks to Chris Brindle for the link. The closest thing yet to official confirmation Dieppe Seaways is coming to Dublin:
http://www.cargotec.com/en-global/newsroom/Releases/press-releases/Pages/macgregor-conversion-expertise-secures-new-order-from-1851367-Wed-27-Aug-2014-11-00.aspx
QuoteCARGOTEC CORPORATION, PRESS RELEASE, 27 AUGUST 2014 AT 11 AM (EEST)
MacGregor, part of Cargotec, has received a contract from Stena North Sea Ltd to convert the 29,800gt RoPax ferry Dieppe Seaways to optimise it for its new route between Dublin and Holyhead in Ireland. The order further strengthens MacGregor's position as the first choice supplier for RoRo conversions and was booked into the second quarter 2014 order intake.
MacGregor's RoRo conversion team is no stranger to the vessel, which will be renamed Stena Superfast X, originally altering the ferry in 2008 to suit new operations across the English Channel. Its present needs dictate a return to the vessel's original design.
"MacGregor's long relationship and close cooperation with Stena RoRo on previous conversion and newbuilding projects secured the order," says Stefan Wide, Director of RoRo Conversion & Port Solutions at MacGregor. "It shows that our customers appreciate our ability to provide solutions for their vessels not only at the newbuilding stage, but also when the vessels are in operation."
MacGregor will supply a complete 'turnkey' delivery of RoRo cargo access equipment which includes the design, hardware and installation of bow doors, a bow ramp, a new watertight door and a stern ramp. The installation will be completed in January 2015.
The contract also included a wide range of feasibility studies to verify the interfaces between the onboard ramps and port-side equipment.
"We work closely with customers during all stages of a project to find the best technical and cost-efficient solutions to suit each individual vessel, both on board and at the port interface," adds Mr Wide.
Caption: MacGregor's conversion team is no stranger to the vessel, originally altering the ferry in 2008.
For further information please contact
Stefan Wide, Director, RoRo Conversions & Port Solutions, tel. +46 31 850 719
Email: stefan.wide@macgregor.com
or
Heli Malkavaara, Communications, MacGregor, tel. +358 20 777 4500
Email: heli.malkavaara@macgregor.com
MacGregor offers world leading engineering solutions and services for handling marine cargoes and offshore loads. The scope of our integrated packages is growing and now also includes Hatlapa, Porsgrunn, Pusnes and Triplex products.
MacGregor serves the offshore, maritime transportation and naval logistics markets in ports and terminals as well as on board ships and rigs. MacGregor solutions combine load and cargo access, stowage, care and handling functions to optimise lifetime profitability, productivity and environmental sustainability. www.macgregor.com
MacGregor is part of Cargotec. Cargotec's sales totalled approximately EUR 3.2 billion in 2013 and it employs approximately 11,000 people. Cargotec's class B shares are quoted on NASDAQ OMX Helsinki under symbol CGCBV. www.cargotec.co
Reading into this a little I would suggest the plan is to undo much of the work done to make her fit Calais, making her loading and unloading arrangement more like it was originally. One would assume this will also make her more suitable for other routes as well.
Hopefully we will hear something from Stena (and DFDS) soon. This would (as previously suggested) be the ideal time from a marketing perspective to quietly drop the HSS from the timetable, citing the additional passenger capacity if the "new" ship making her redundant.
Presumably Stena Superfast X - as we now know her future name - will have the capability of the HSS current crossing times, if Stena decide to run her at that speed?
Incidentally, I'm not sure I like the name. To me it shows a lack both of originality and tradition (a bit like the Holyhead Ferry 1).
Good man Steve for getting the latest info. So going by that it looks like christmas will be the Stena Explorers last hurrah. Hopefully we should know the full plan soon. I must say I am quite impressed with the interior of the stena super fasts, deffo much nicer than the adventurer. I think as was said earlier ,in the fact the HSS faces dry dock in January is the decider , if it was another year away she might have been kept, but with the money they will have to spend on dieppe, they won't want to spend anymore. What type of money does anyone think stena would sell the explorer for if someone wanted to buy it. (You know if I won the euromillions lotto I wouldn't mind buying it , if stena were to rent me it's current berth in holyhead .) I suppose we can all dream :)
Quote from: Davy Jones on August 27, 2014, 01:12:29 PM
Presumably Stena Superfast X - as we now know her future name - will have the capability of the HSS current crossing times, if Stena decide to run her at that speed?
Incidentally, I'm not sure I like the name. To me it shows a lack both of originality and tradition (a bit like the Holyhead Ferry 1).
We don't know if Superfast will be in her name, personally I don't think so. After all she won't run any faster than Nordica or adventurer do or it's going to throw out the entire timetable and berthing slots at both ports - and it will only damage the very strong brand built up in Belfast as it won't be any faster tha.n before. While theoretically she could do 28 knots I know for a fact the pair in Belfast cost a lot to run even running as they do around the 20 knot mark. The era of the high speed ferry is over - just look at the number of high speed services remaining. At the end of the day the airlines can do it quicker with lower overheads. Remember explorer has 2 747 engines and a couple of fighter jet engines to feed - even at half power that's a lot of (very expensive) fuel. Likewise why run a ship at max power for minimal gain. Does the year round freight trade care enough for example to spend 25% more on the crossing to cover the extra fuel?
I don't think the Swift will be around much longer after Explorer goes tbh (at least year round) unless ICG can justify throwing money away to their shareholders. There's a reason why Fast craft are a rarity these days and while Swift is more economical than many it's not like they can cram her full of profit making roro is it?
EDIT: If they do call her Superfast X then they had better restore her winglets!
Well then, looks like we will all be waiting for an announcement from Stena regarding Holyhead-Dublin/Dun Laoghaire?
No matter what happens the next twelve months are going to be very expensive for Stena, the conversion of the Dieppe Seaways into Stena Superfast X is going to cost serious amount of money with major technical work and onboard work required before it enters service, it is more than likely most of the work will probably take place at Remontowa given how successful the previous Superfast work carried out there was. Figura and MJM have got be front runners for the interior refit.
Aside from this major investment, all the Irish Sea boats will require dry docking and technical work this year which probably won't begin for the passenger vessels until the Nordica is displaced by the Superfast X and this will then allow the Nordica to cover for the Adventurer, Europe, Superfast VII, Superfast VIII, Mersey and Lagan, the Hibernia, Precision and Performer may be able to provide cover for themselves. Obviously the two favourites for this work would be Camell Laird and H&W with the work possibly split between the two.
Quote from: giftgrub on August 27, 2014, 09:30:21 PM
No matter what happens the next twelve months are going to be very expensive for Stena, the conversion of the Dieppe Seaways into Stena Superfast X is going to cost serious amount of money with major technical work and onboard work required before it enters service, it is more than likely most of the work will probably take place at Remontowa given how successful the previous Superfast work carried out there was. Figura and MJM have got be front runners for the interior refit.
Aside from this major investment, all the Irish Sea boats will require dry docking and technical work this year which probably won't begin for the passenger vessels until the Nordica is displaced by the Superfast X and this will then allow the Nordica to cover for the Adventurer, Europe, Superfast VII, Superfast VIII, Mersey and Lagan, the Hibernia, Precision and Performer may be able to provide cover for themselves. Obviously the two favourites for this work would be Camell Laird and H&W with the work possibly split between the two.
^The man speaks sense.
Stena have to make this look somehow co-ordinated and corporate
http://vmf-cruiseferrytravelblog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/06/dieppe-seaways-getting-ready-for-her.html
Neither Seafrance or DFDS are famed for high maintenance standards either tbh. Im sure Stena will want to put her right while they have the opportunity rather than risk her having to be off service.
Regarding her interior refit, I'm sure much has been learned from her sisters. I highly doubt she will be a carbon copy.
Quote from: giftgrub on August 27, 2014, 09:30:21 PM
Aside from this major investment, all the Irish Sea boats will require dry docking and technical work this year which probably won't begin for the passenger vessels until the Nordica is displaced by the Superfast X and this will then allow the Nordica to cover for the Adventurer, Europe, Superfast VII, Superfast VIII, Mersey and Lagan, the Hibernia, Precision and Performer may be able to provide cover for themselves. Obviously the two favourites for this work would be Camell Laird and H&W with the work possibly split between the two.
assuming this happens, I can imagine a nightmare for the personnel department, sorting out the extra crew.
After quite a bit of searching, finally got an image of the Stena Egeria in service, have no idea what the article says but, Captain Alon Palmer also in the images.
Stena RoRo branding visible under Yantai Ferry and the funnel repaint was not exactly well planned.
http://www.jiaodong.net/news/system/2014/07/01/012333591.shtml
http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/economy/2014/07/02/0325000000AKR20140702167000061.HTML
Quote from: Davy Jones on August 27, 2014, 10:18:10 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on August 27, 2014, 09:30:21 PM
Aside from this major investment, all the Irish Sea boats will require dry docking and technical work this year which probably won't begin for the passenger vessels until the Nordica is displaced by the Superfast X and this will then allow the Nordica to cover for the Adventurer, Europe, Superfast VII, Superfast VIII, Mersey and Lagan, the Hibernia, Precision and Performer may be able to provide cover for themselves. Obviously the two favourites for this work would be Camell Laird and H&W with the work possibly split between the two.
assuming this happens, I can imagine a nightmare for the personnel department, sorting out the extra crew.
Not really tbh. Nordica has covered up here before, likewise Hibernia has switched before at short notice - notably to provide extra capacity to Cairnryan. AFAIK the live on Stena crews (with the exception of the Birkenhead pair) work 2 wks on 2 weeks off anyway. As the refits will happen in the off-peak season there will be no need for extra crew I would imagine.
Quote from: giftgrub on August 27, 2014, 10:27:02 PM
After quite a bit of searching, finally got an image of the Stena Egeria in service, have no idea what the article says but, Captain Alon Palmer also in the images.
Stena RoRo branding visible under Yantai Ferry and the funnel repaint was not exactly well planned.
http://www.jiaodong.net/news/system/2014/07/01/012333591.shtml
http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/economy/2014/07/02/0325000000AKR20140702167000061.HTML
Nice find! Reminds me a little of Nord Pas de Calais half and half colour scheme under sealink
Re: Dieppe Seaways
Stena only have 4 - 5 months to get Dieppe ready for serious action. DFDS in my opinion would prefer to ride out the storm on Dover-Calais. DFDS know MFL cant go on as an independent forever. Brittany Ferries would be a good operator to take MFL over, even if that does take BF into the short-sea sector, but as Steven has pointed out BF aren't flush with cash at the minute.
Dover-Calais allows DFDS to have a cutting edge over P&O by offering both freight and passengers the luxury of Calais or Dunkirk. DFDS haven't announced anything about a closure, possibly September, but what vessel would replace Dieppe Seaways? Most likely the route would have to be closed. Perhaps Calais Seaways (name's a bit ironic) could move to Dunkirk. Either way there is really very little in the way of tonnage suitable to replace Dieppe.
This announcement by CARGOTEC CORPORATION / Stena North Sea, does eerily confirm the imminent closure of Calais, sure P&O are thrilled (Hey it might not have been such a waste leaving European Seaway in warm layup!!!). But where this leaves MFL I don't really know.
DFDS I think will drag there heels as much as possible. It really depends on the financial health of MFL. If Eurotunnel continues to act as a life support, the situation could be MFL surviving and being sold to another party. P&O as usual has stayed in the shadows, but I'm sure are thrilled to have the fumbling French back as the main competition on their premier / award winning route.
Quote from: TC on August 28, 2014, 12:04:23 AM
Re: Dieppe Seaways
Stena only have 4 - 5 months to get Dieppe ready for serious action. DFDS in my opinion would prefer to ride out the storm on Dover-Calais. DFDS know MFL cant go on as an independent forever. Brittany Ferries would be a good operator to take MFL over, even if that does take BF into the short-sea sector, but as Steven has pointed out BF aren't flush with cash at the minute.
Dover-Calais allows DFDS to have a cutting edge over P&O by offering both freight and passengers the luxury of Calais or Dunkirk. DFDS haven't announced anything about a closure, possibly September, but what vessel would replace Dieppe Seaways? Most likely the route would have to be closed. Perhaps Calais Seaways (name's a bit ironic) could move to Dunkirk. Either way there is really very little in the way of tonnage suitable to replace Dieppe.
This announcement by CARGOTEC CORPORATION / Stena North Sea, does eerily confirm the imminent closure of Calais, sure P&O are thrilled (Hey it might not have been such a waste leaving European Seaway in warm layup!!!). But where this leaves MFL I don't really know.
DFDS I think will drag there heels as much as possible. It really depends on the financial health of MFL. If Eurotunnel continues to act as a life support, the situation could be MFL surviving and being sold to another party. P&O as usual has stayed in the shadows, but I'm sure are thrilled to have the fumbling French back as the main competition on their premier / award winning route.
Stena (and their partners) can do wonderful things in just a couple of months, look at Stena Superfast VII and VIII for an example (2 months). Stena Trader was shortened and readied for a completely new passenger role in Canada in just 80 days remembered. Its quite possible SF X could be in place by end of January/start of February 2015.
If DFDS want to continue at Le Havre they need a ship, as they need to return Cote d'Albatre before the end of the year IIRC. What better a ship than former Portsmouth - Le Havre ferry Calais Seaways?
As I posted elsewhere DFDS could withdraw from Calais and become a night in shining armour "rescuing" bankrupt MFL if it is forced to close. Its a long shot, but its hard to see what options they have for tonnage to keep going. Patria Seaways might work (as a sister to former Stena Challenger, albeit she is totally different internally), but what do they replace her with? (side note: The Travemunde-Klaipeda route has been closed due to declining volumes with traffic switched to Patria Seaways Kiel-Klaipeda route so maybe she could be displaced by something bigger if numbers pick up). Stena Allegra could have been a stop-gap if she where not the other side of the world.
With the exception of Dieppe Seaways everything else operating from Dover is purpose built to operate from there - the one partial exception being Calais Seaways which was built to do the longer run to Ostend rather than Calais. No matter what we are now at the end of August leaving September and October really to acquire something and convert it for use at Calais if they want to go on with the current timetable. Even still it would involve sinking more money into a loss making operation.
Regarding Stena Egeria, I hope someday we will see her "back home" in Northern Europe.
Interesting to see Stena Egeria is registered in Limassol. Considering the repaint / refurbishment, we might see her move north. I expect Stena had to do quite a big mechanical clean up. I'm sure she wasn't in A1 condition. Certainly not up to regular Stena standards, or Seafrance :P.
Quote from: TC on August 28, 2014, 12:09:44 PM
Interesting to see Stena Egeria is registered in Limassol. Considering the repaint / refurbishment, we might see her move north. I expect Stena had to do quite a big mechanical clean up. I'm sure she wasn't in A1 condition. Certainly not up to regular Stena standards, or Seafrance :P.
If you go backwards through this thread there are some details on Egeria's clean up but you are right in saying it was major work.
Hello everyone! It's been a long while since I actually wrote on here, but it's been great to read what has been happening on the Forum.
I have just come back from Holyhead, after travelling on board the HSS Stena Explorer for the first and last time. I did a round trip, so I stayed over in Holyhead last night and caught the 1030 sailing this morning to Dun Laoghaire, which departed 15 minutes early as everything was loaded pretty quickly.
We got in to Dun Laoghaire on time at 1250 and I was able to spend 5-10 minutes outside the terminal, taking pictures of the town and harbour, before heading back on board. Once again, we loaded promptly and departed 15-20 minutes before the advertised departure-1330. This meant we arrived promptly back in Holyhead for 1545.
The Irish Sea was beautifully calm as a millpond today, while the weather was sunny but hazy on the horizon, which prevented me from seeing things in the far distance. This provided a very comfortable crossing in both directions, even though I could tell she wasn't at full speed. The outward bound crossing was quite quiet, while the return was busier but certainly not overcrowded, which on a personal level I was pleased with.
I found the ship to be very comfortable and I enjoyed wandering the various sections, be it the Shop, the Forward Lounge, the Port & Starboard seating areas, the Central Restaurant, the Aft Lounge or the two open decks. I also got kind permission to take pictures of the interior, which I did discreetly. I really liked the fact they segregated the open decks between smoking and non smoking (which meant I used the latter a lot more). If only they did that on other vessels!!!!
Overall I enjoyed the Stena Explorer and I was really pleased to experience an HSS, albeit tinged with slight sadness that I won't be able to experience it again. I also kept thinking melancholy about how things could have been different had fuel prices not shot up, or the new Sulphur Rules not come in, or the fast ferry industry had been more sustainable. I even imagined a 2 ship Dun Laoghaire service, with the Stena Explorer operating alongside an Incat 112- sadly not to be. It would have also been nice if the Stena Carisma's sister was also built to operate across the Stena fleet.
It will be a shame to see Dun Laoghaire close as a ferry port too, after it's long history with Holyhead. It also seems a very nice town and is home to the Irish Maritime Museum, among other things. So I hope Stena continue to offer trips for tourists sailing to Dublin, or recommend it in their destination guides.
Other ferries I saw on the trip:
Epsilon (berthed at Holyhead yesterday- good to see the new ship)
Stena Nordica (ditto)
Jonathon Swift (sailed past twice, as well as saw berthed in Holyhead)
Ulysses (sailed past twice)
Stena Adventurer (ditto)
Peregrine (sailing into Dublin from Rotterdam-Zeebrugge)
Seatruck Pace (berthed at the Seatruck berth in Dublin, after arriving from Heysham).
Due to the haze I didn't see the Liverpool ships unfortunately, but 8 ferries (inc. HSS) is a good total.
I hope you enjoyed my review.
Good luck to everyone going on Saturday, enjoy yourselves.
Martin
Conformation Dieppe Seaways is on the move from DfDS
http://m.nordlittoral.fr/accueil/stena-reprend-l-ex-moliere-a-dfds-ia0b0n136335
(And a bad translation)
QuoteIt is a blow for DFDS Seaways. The shipping company has just learned that Stena Line, owner of the former SeaFrance Molière since May 2014, no longer what it fréterait ferry. It intends to operate under its own colors on the Dublin (Ireland) -Holyhead (Wales) line at the beginning of next year.
Since 2012, the ship was leased by the Swedish company DFDS Seaways on the Calais-Dover line.
Starting in November
Danish giant has confirmed the information. "The Dieppe Seaways ship has been chartered by DFDS Seaways, will be made in November 2014 to its owner, said a spokesman for DFDS Seaways France. DFDS Seaways fleet management department and are currently working to resolve this situation . "
In January 2015, the ship find the OEM MacGregor who had adapted to the short-Channel in 2008 when it was acquired by Veolia SeaFrance (it was then called Jean Nicoli).
The Dieppe Seaways (formerly Superfast X and Jean Nicoli SeaFrance Molière) was built in 2002 by the shipyard HDW in Kiel, Germany for Superfast Ferries, or which operated between Zeebrugge and Rosyth.
In August 2006, Veolia had bought the ship Superfast for use via SNCM between Corsica and the mainland. Following the merger between CMN and SNCM, the Jean Nicoli was ultimately little used. In 2008 it was bought by a group to be chartered SeaFrance.
Property of SARL Poquelin Lease since 2008, the SeaFrance Molière, not part of the assets of the old company, was not affected by the liquidation of SeaFrance.
Urgently looking ferry
In July 2012, it changed its name and is renowned Molière being registered in Valletta, Malta by its new owner, Scapino Shipping Ltd.
On 24 October 2012, the Molière is chartered by DFDS Seaways to join the Dunkirk-Dover line under the French flag as the Dieppe Seaways to replace the Delft Seaways which was to be reassigned on the Calais-Dover line to replace Deal Seaways , traveled to Brittany Ferries, its owner.
Recall that DFDS claims that its loss on Calais-Dover presence hangs with the decision of the British competition authorities to block access to the port of Dover to vessels operated by Eurotunnel My Ferry Link.
Does anyone know whats the story here? When the Stena Europe is at sea, you can't see under the hull, but when she is docked alongside in Rosslare you can nearly always see her rudders, and you can't see any other ships?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/yiddo2009/13274718323
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on September 05, 2014, 08:30:06 PM
Does anyone know whats the story here? When the Stena Europe is at sea, you can't see under the hull, but when she is docked alongside in Rosslare you can nearly always see her rudders, and you can't see any other ships?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/yiddo2009/13274718323
It was an 80's cost saving idea from Sessan Line, sort of a fore bearer of the automated docking at Lough Ryan Port. Stena Europe rises up on massive stilts when she is alongside. This means she stays in place without having to tie her up (so saving time) and brings her to a level height with the linkspan. Also has the added effect of lifting part of the hull out of the salt water. It was one of the reasons Stena werent so keen on her when they took over Sessan as it is a system very prone to failure.
;)
Quote from: Steven on September 05, 2014, 08:51:09 PM
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on September 05, 2014, 08:30:06 PM
Does anyone know whats the story here? When the Stena Europe is at sea, you can't see under the hull, but when she is docked alongside in Rosslare you can nearly always see her rudders, and you can't see any other ships?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/yiddo2009/13274718323
It was an 80's cost saving idea from Sessan Line, sort of a fore bearer of the automated docking at Lough Ryan Port. Stena Europe rises up on massive stilts when she is alongside. This means she stays in place without having to tie her up (so saving time) and brings her to a level height with the linkspan. Also has the added effect of lifting part of the hull out of the salt water. It was one of the reasons Stena werent so keen on her when they took over Sessan as it is a system very prone to failure.
;)
What do you mean by massive stilts? Are these something attached to the Stena Europe that touches the sea bed or something?
Quote from: Steven on September 05, 2014, 05:39:21 PM
Conformation Dieppe Seaways is on the move from DfDS
http://m.nordlittoral.fr/accueil/stena-reprend-l-ex-moliere-a-dfds-ia0b0n136335
Well, can't wait to see her next to Epsilon at Holyhead ;D
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on September 05, 2014, 09:26:48 PM
Quote from: Steven on September 05, 2014, 08:51:09 PM
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on September 05, 2014, 08:30:06 PM
Does anyone know whats the story here? When the Stena Europe is at sea, you can't see under the hull, but when she is docked alongside in Rosslare you can nearly always see her rudders, and you can't see any other ships?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/yiddo2009/13274718323
It was an 80's cost saving idea from Sessan Line, sort of a fore bearer of the automated docking at Lough Ryan Port. Stena Europe rises up on massive stilts when she is alongside. This means she stays in place without having to tie her up (so saving time) and brings her to a level height with the linkspan. Also has the added effect of lifting part of the hull out of the salt water. It was one of the reasons Stena werent so keen on her when they took over Sessan as it is a system very prone to failure.
;)
What do you mean by massive stilts? Are these something attached to the Stena Europe that touches the sea bed or something?
I was winding you up! Sadly, Stena Europe doesn't have stilts. (Hence the ;) at the end of my post)
Every ship experiences this "phenomenon" when empty as opposed to full. A full ship displaces more water (in order to float), and so more of the ship is below the water line. If she isn't particularly full then the same effect is achieved by taking on ballast. If this where not the case then she would sit very high on the water during her crossing and be very unstable. Think of large tankers where you can see the bulbous bow when they are empty in port. It's the same thing. Conversely if she sat lower in the water when empty she would not be able to take as large a load.
Great news about Dieppe. Thanks for the post Steven. Haha, guess you were right. She will be a great sight to see in Dublin, and I'm sure she will be a better running mate for Stena Adventure. She will be a bit more spacious hopefully ;). Stena Nordica does (even after 10 years with Stena) still feels like P&O 'European Class' freighter in terms of space. Fair play to Stena for putting in the extra lounge aft, but when you compare her to the 'Superfasts' or 'Adventurer' she's never really met the grade for me.
She'd be a good enough fit on the Rosslare to Cherbourg route. But the sailings I've been on, when she's close to capacity, its really not the nice spacious Stena experience I'm use to from the HSS, and Adventurer. Everything always felt on top of each other. I think her linear layout didn't help either (because of the deck promenades) and narrow corridors, coupled with high enough passenger numbers.
Is Stena moving the nordica to Rosslare?
Seems pretty unlikely that Stena Nordica is going to rosslare would guess Stena Europe will solider on a while longer
QuoteSwedish group Stena's focus on fuel savings is being given a boost by systems monitoring technology on board its ships.
Stena Line's energy saving project manager Lars-Erik Hellring told TradeWinds that real-time analysis of vessel performance is being introduced on more and more of its ferries.
Two ro-paxes are due to install the NAPA-designed field management system next week, bringing to 22 the number of ships using the technology.
And this will rise to 25 or 26 of its 40-strong fleet in the near future, Hellring added.
The software logs fuel consumption and electrical power use, plus wind, vessel speed and sea depth information.
The data is viewable on the bridge and at head office and the idea is that officers can instantly adjust the vessel's performance to optimise efficiency.
"We can see all these values and compare them ship to ship," Hellring said. "Then we can look at why things are different.
"The important thing is that the people who are running the ships can see what they are doing."
Stena Line has a fuel budget of SEK 2.3bn ($323m) for 2014. Hellring said it was difficult to analyse exact savings due to an expanded fleet and changes in loading volumes.
At Stena Bulk, however, slow-steaming and efficiency measures have cut bunker bills by more than SEK 65m over the last year.
The owner said it would continue to operate ships at low speeds in the future.
It gave the example of a modern 160,000-dwt suezmax tanker, which must achieve an average rate of $40,000 per day to justify a speed increase of just 0.5 knots at current fuel prices.
This means a doubling of rates from their levels so far in 2014.
Instead, the company can adjust a vessel's propeller and bulb to its actual speed to cut fuel use, and also add stern tubes and fins to maximise performance.
http://www.tradewindsnews.com/finance/344402/Stenas-savings-spur
Some pics from Scott Mackey who was aboard for Explorer's last sailing of the season and returned via Stena Nordica
Stena Nordica
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157623457104848/
Stena Explorer
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157633041823557/
Stena Adventurer
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157623457108720/
Sunset & Moonrise
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/
does anyone know where I can watch the full version of this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fal9E8aSACw
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on September 13, 2014, 06:10:32 PM
does anyone know where I can watch the full version of this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fal9E8aSACw
Pretty sure this was on telly up here (minus the American accent). Mighty ships or a similar program I think
Someone asked me (via e-mail) where Stena Alegra currently is, did some digging, looks like she is currently sailing between China (Yantai, Shandong) and South Korea (Pyeongtaek) since July 3 times a week...
Quote from: Steven on September 14, 2014, 07:21:20 AM
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on September 13, 2014, 06:10:32 PM
does anyone know where I can watch the full version of this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fal9E8aSACw
Pretty sure this was on telly up here (minus the American accent). Mighty ships or a similar program I think
Series 4 Episode 4 of Mighty Ships - best chance to catch a repeat normally on the channel Quest (series link and hope they show it soon)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mighty_Ships
Quote from: Kieran on September 14, 2014, 10:54:24 PM
Someone asked me (via e-mail) where Stena Alegra currently is, did some digging, looks like she is currently sailing between China (Yantai, Shandong) and South Korea (Pyeongtaek) since July 3 times a week...
This is the service Stena Egeria (ex Hoa Sen) operates? Last I heard Alegra was heading for repairs. Her AIS appears to have been turned off or is out of range.
Quote from: giftgrub on September 14, 2014, 11:27:20 PM
Quote from: Steven on September 14, 2014, 07:21:20 AM
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on September 13, 2014, 06:10:32 PM
does anyone know where I can watch the full version of this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fal9E8aSACw
Pretty sure this was on telly up here (minus the American accent). Mighty ships or a similar program I think
Series 4 Episode 4 of Mighty Ships - best chance to catch a repeat normally on the channel Quest (series link and hope they show it soon)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mighty_Ships
If you search the name of the program/series/episode you might be able to download it. Its one of the better documentaries I have seen about ferries but as you would expect some of it is a bit over dramatised.
Quote from: Steven on September 15, 2014, 01:47:06 AM
Quote from: Kieran on September 14, 2014, 10:54:24 PM
Someone asked me (via e-mail) where Stena Alegra currently is, did some digging, looks like she is currently sailing between China (Yantai, Shandong) and South Korea (Pyeongtaek) since July 3 times a week...
This is the service Stena Egeria (ex Hoa Sen) operates? Last I heard Alegra was heading for repairs. Her AIS appears to have been turned off or is out of range.
Quote from: giftgrub on September 14, 2014, 11:27:20 PM
Quote from: Steven on September 14, 2014, 07:21:20 AM
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on September 13, 2014, 06:10:32 PM
does anyone know where I can watch the full version of this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fal9E8aSACw
Pretty sure this was on telly up here (minus the American accent). Mighty ships or a similar program I think
Series 4 Episode 4 of Mighty Ships - best chance to catch a repeat normally on the channel Quest (series link and hope they show it soon)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mighty_Ships
If you search the name of the program/series/episode you might be able to download it. Its one of the better documentaries I have seen about ferries but as you would expect some of it is a bit over dramatised.
Mighty Ships is on a loop on Quest Channel. I've seen this episode at least five times. Quest channel has a website with the scheudle and it usually says which ship will be featured. There was one on this afternoon at 3pm so check your TV planner!
Matt
Quote from: Steven on September 15, 2014, 01:47:06 AM
Quote from: Kieran on September 14, 2014, 10:54:24 PM
Someone asked me (via e-mail) where Stena Alegra currently is, did some digging, looks like she is currently sailing between China (Yantai, Shandong) and South Korea (Pyeongtaek) since July 3 times a week...
This is the service Stena Egeria (ex Hoa Sen) operates? Last I heard Alegra was heading for repairs. Her AIS appears to have been turned off or is out of range.
Quote from: giftgrub on September 14, 2014, 11:27:20 PM
Quote from: Steven on September 14, 2014, 07:21:20 AM
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on September 13, 2014, 06:10:32 PM
does anyone know where I can watch the full version of this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fal9E8aSACw
Pretty sure this was on telly up here (minus the American accent). Mighty ships or a similar program I think
Series 4 Episode 4 of Mighty Ships - best chance to catch a repeat normally on the channel Quest (series link and hope they show it soon)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mighty_Ships
If you search the name of the program/series/episode you might be able to download it. Its one of the better documentaries I have seen about ferries but as you would expect some of it is a bit over dramatised.
Just seen this on Facebook -
Stena Alegra is anchored at Telok Ramunia Malaysia since 26th July
EDIT: Here she is. Telok Ramunia isn't too far from her original AIS stated destination of Singapore.
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10384665_966892689992642_6395039877734767042_n.jpg?oh=d02f1be4afdb28d22410ae13c674f7d3&oe=54C8A807)
Not sure if this has been posted but some info about Superfast x here http://bairdmaritime.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15878:macgregor-to-convert-stena-ferry&catid=96:cruiseferry&Itemid=116
Looks like Superfast X is going to get an extensive refit and refurbishment before taking up the Dublin - Holyhead service.
I'd say she'll need it. The past 5 years have been 'make do and mend' ::). Least she'll get a bit of TLC from Stena ;D.
Quote from: smallboatowner on September 17, 2014, 02:11:20 PM
Not sure if this has been posted but some info about Superfast x here http://bairdmaritime.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15878:macgregor-to-convert-stena-ferry&catid=96:cruiseferry&Itemid=116
Rehash of the original press release (tbh an abbreviated version) but thanks for posting none the less. You never know when an extra snippet of information may come to light
Pictures posted online indicate that HSS Stena Voyager is no more :(
Also a wee snippet I don't think was posted before about some refurbishment at Birkenhead
Quote
TRIO COMPLETE STENA LINE WORK PROJECT
Three Merseyside businesses have completed work to revamp the freight drivers' lounge for Stena Line in Birkenhead.
MPE Interiors has installed new fixtures and fittings for the Liverpool-to-Belfast lounge at Stena Line's 12 Quays terminal in Birkenhead.
Birkenhead electrical engineering group Seaking Electrical and Liverpool flooring business Durastic also worked on the project.
Phil Taylor of MPE said: "This is one of many works that MPE Interiors has done work for Stena Line's terminals. It follows other contracts to fit-out Stena Line ferries.
"We're determined to grow our ferry-related work further with Stena Line following this latest work."
MPE has previously completed projects for Stena Line including refurbishing passenger decks on one of its vessels operating between Holyhead and Dublin, and redeveloping the crew and officers' mess areas on two passenger ferries covering the Birkenhead to Belfast route.
http://www.insidermedia.com/insider/north-west/122815-trio-complete-stena-line-work-project/
Must say I was impressed with the improvements made at Birkenhead when I visited in July. Although the terminal remains rather adequate rather than anything the new interior and Stena touches makes it a much nicer place to be. The Stena history along one of the walls is a particularly nice touch in my opinion!
In what is a surprise to some of us, a few sources are indicating the charter of Stena Baltica (ex Cotentin) has been extended for another year.
Reported on FONE that Stena have closed their Stena Daea Line service between Russia and South Korea, one would assume the operation was just too far away to be managed from Europe.
Also the Norman Asturias has entered service alongside the Stena Feronia on strait of Gibraltar Tangier service one assumes they are both operating for Inter Shipping.
Quote from: smallboatowner on September 17, 2014, 02:11:20 PM
Not sure if this has been posted but some info about Superfast x here http://bairdmaritime.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15878:macgregor-to-convert-stena-ferry&catid=96:cruiseferry&Itemid=116
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Thanks for this. Great news and I really hope that this means that the disgusting 'cow catcher' is going to be removed!
Matt
Quote from: Matt73 on October 05, 2014, 07:04:07 PM
Quote from: smallboatowner on September 17, 2014, 02:11:20 PM
Not sure if this has been posted but some info about Superfast x here http://bairdmaritime.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15878:macgregor-to-convert-stena-ferry&catid=96:cruiseferry&Itemid=116
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Thanks for this. Great news and I really hope that this means that the disgusting 'cow catcher' is going to be removed!
Matt
All Dover related modifications will be removed including the Cow Catcher as they are only needed on Dover - Calais, Stena will have a lot of work to do on the Stena Superfast X when they take control of the vessel in November to have it ready for Irish Sea service in January.
more info on the future Superfast X here
http://www.doverferryphotosforums.co.uk/mv-seafrance-moliere-past-and-present/
Video here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK6Mj-DFB20
I am planning on going on stenas 5 euro offer. But I don't know which I should do, should I go on the dub to holy route or Ross to fishg? Any tips anyone
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on October 06, 2014, 05:01:18 PM
I am planning on going on stenas 5 euro offer. But I don't know which I should do, should I go on the dub to holy route or Ross to fishg? Any tips anyone
Rosslare-Fishguard and enjoy one of the last remaining traditional ferries with plenty of open deck space and spend extra to Stena + it as well, the breakfast is lovely. Get some nice images of the Inishmore and depending on the day, the Stena Horizon also. Also if you ask nicely in advance you might be able to get a bridge visit.
Yea giftgrub, I actually think that's a good idea, I had the europe in mind all along. So I'll go ahead with that one so, and I'll do my best to arrange a bridge visit. Thanks
Quote from: giftgrub on October 05, 2014, 08:08:47 PM
Quote from: Matt73 on October 05, 2014, 07:04:07 PM
Quote from: smallboatowner on September 17, 2014, 02:11:20 PM
Not sure if this has been posted but some info about Superfast x here http://bairdmaritime.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15878:macgregor-to-convert-stena-ferry&catid=96:cruiseferry&Itemid=116
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Thanks for this. Great news and I really hope that this means that the disgusting 'cow catcher' is going to be removed!
Matt
All Dover related modifications will be removed including the Cow Catcher as they are only needed on Dover - Calais, Stena will have a lot of work to do on the Stena Superfast X when they take control of the vessel in November to have it ready for Irish Sea service in January.
Great news! Thanks for this.
Matt
Ygiftgrub, I hate to disappoint you but I unfourntly have to trave via Stena Adventurer on the dublin to Holyhead route. I will take plenty of photos and will try to arrange a bridge visit, thanks
If its only 5 Euro, why not sail on both routes?
Quote from: giftgrub on October 05, 2014, 07:08:47 PM
more info on the future Superfast X here
http://www.doverferryphotosforums.co.uk/mv-seafrance-moliere-past-and-present/
She has certainly had an eventful life so far!
What happened the Stena Horizon,
It has been moored in rosslare for days?
Quote from: IFPete on October 13, 2014, 06:53:20 PM
What happened the Stena Horizon,
It has been moored in rosslare for days?
No specific information only that its a technical issue, was sitting very high in the water yesterday morning in Rosslare, possibly a combination of high tide and low ballast on vessel, looked very impressive (Obviously would have been better to be sailing than a rare Sunday morning in Rosslare)
No confirmation yet as to the location and timing for the Stena Line Irish Sea refit schedules as all vessels are due an annual refit in the next six months which will be a logistical nightmare if anything is delayed, it is expected that the majority of the work will be carried out at H&W and possibly Cammell Laird Liverpool.
Obviously the Stena Nordica will provide cover when displaced from the Dublin - Holyhead route when the Stena Superfast X is introduced, but there may be an earlier addition to the the refit cover fleet from the Stena RoRo fleet if any refits need to be carried out before February, one obvious candidate is the currently unemployed Stena Feronia which is at anchor in the med, the Stena Aleagra at anchor in Singapore is too far away to be of any use.
Despite its bad experience when last on the Irish Sea the Feronia would be a fine vessel to provide cover for any of the routes if they are scheduled for a refit prior to February.
As has been reported elsewhere, Stena Nordica will make a brief trip up to Belfast for a short dry docking at Harland and Wolff. Stena Performer is currently at H&W for the weekend - cover is being provided by Stena Hibernia which usually lays over during the weekend.
Some bits are trickling through about the refit schedules for the Irish Sea, but I cannot give any dates as of yet. Sources are telling me that Stena Feronia WILL make a return though - its a bit of a no-brainer really when you consider she is now surplus to requirements at Stena RoRo and was also designed for the Belfast-Liverpool route. She can just slot straight in for the Visentinis up here. Stena Nordica is widely expected to provide refit cover for the rest of the fleet once displaced by Stena Superfast X early in the new year.
Why not place the Stena Ferona in the Stena Hibernia Schedule and add addition capacity permanently if she is spare and able to be used.
Quote from: Steven on November 08, 2014, 08:25:04 PM
As has been reported elsewhere, Stena Nordica will make a brief trip up to Belfast for a short dry docking at Harland and Wolff. Stena Performer is currently at H&W for the weekend - cover is being provided by Stena Hibernia which usually lays over during the weekend.
Some bits are trickling through about the refit schedules for the Irish Sea, but I cannot give any dates as of yet. Sources are telling me that Stena Feronia WILL make a return though - its a bit of a no-brainer really when you consider she is now surplus to requirements at Stena RoRo and was also designed for the Belfast-Liverpool route. She can just slot straight in for the Visentinis up here. Stena Nordica is widely expected to provide refit cover for the rest of the fleet once displaced by Stena Superfast X early in the new year.
The Stena Feronia left the port of Gibraltar a short while ago and is heading for Belfast. ETA is Saturday Morning (Info from Marine Traffic)
Looks like the two Birkenhead Stena vessels will refit before Christmas, with the Stena Feronia Heading for Belfast we can expect the Lagan and Mersey to be off for two weeks each before Christmas, the Feronia would also be free to provide additional capacity for Dublin - Holyhead over Christmas if required (or any of there passenger routes if there is an issue).
The Stena Superfast X will begin service in February which will then allow the Europe, Adventurer, Superfast VII & VIII all get much needed refits carried out with the Stena Nordica providing cover which itself will require a refit before heading to Sweden to replace the Stena Baltica
So where is Stena Baltica off too?
Quote from: Normandy on November 13, 2014, 03:38:16 PM
So where is Stena Baltica off too?
Not going anywhere now apparently, the charter from Brittany Ferries has been extended and the Baltica will remain on route.
In further developments:
The Stena Mersey is expected to refit in H&W Belfast for the last two weeks of November with the Stena Lagan then expected to refit in Falmouth for the first two weeks of December, cover will be provided by the Stena Feronia.
The Stena Performer has just left the dry dock at H&W is and is expected back in service tomorrow.
The Stena Nordica is due into H&W on Saturday 15th for a very short inspection.
The HSS Stena Explorer is not scheduled to refit before Christmas which will mean its MES system cannot be used over the Christmas period reducing its operating certificate to 500 passengers.
Still to be confirmed our the refit schedules of the rest of the fleet, which all depend on the Stena Superfast X's arrival into service on the Irish Sea.
Quote from: giftgrub on November 13, 2014, 09:33:30 PM
The HSS Stena Explorer is not scheduled to refit before Christmas which will mean its MES system cannot be used over the Christmas period reducing its operating certificate to 500 passengers.
That's not good especially at Christmas ::)
giftgrub, the reason i ask as to where stena baltica is off too is you said the stena Nordica was off to replace Stena Baltica, it just seemed strange as Nordica would have an extra 200 PC it would have 400 less lane metres. I will be sad to see the Stena Nordica leave a good comfortable ship with plenty of deck space. Apit they would not do a rebuild to give larger accomadation and place on Rosslare - Fishguard.
Also with the Nordica to do cover for Superfast 7 & 8, Europe and Adventurer, but i guess not the Horizon given she was drydocked last January.
Quote from: HSS on November 13, 2014, 10:59:39 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on November 13, 2014, 09:33:30 PM
The HSS Stena Explorer is not scheduled to refit before Christmas which will mean its MES system cannot be used over the Christmas period reducing its operating certificate to 500 passengers.
That's not good especially at Christmas ::)
Guys Just a small point if the crafts MES system can not be used what would be the means of evacuation as the MES system is the only system the HSS is fitted with (four individual systems). So may only some are availible but thats just simply messy, but a 500 PC does point to the fact it is only extra capacity till superfast x appears next year. Not looking good for hSS in 2015!
Aye, Typical! just when the price of crude oil has dropped as well! ($77.52 this morning).
Stena Feronia is just off the South East coast of Ireland, still with an ETA in Belfast of 6AM on Saturday.
The Stena Horizon might get a refit this year to get the hull branded in line with the rest of the fleet and may also receive some interior modifications (depending on charter terms and if Stena intend to keep the ship), with the Stena Nordica able to sail the route it can provide cover and potentially replace the Horizon if necessary.
With regard to MES certification I have no idea how all this works out but the inherent stability of the HSS with twin hulls and the fact that the certs are not renewed must mean that the operating certificate changes, one would assume the MES will still work and operate if necessary.
The Stena Baltica is chartered from Brittany Ferries on a rolling twelve month contract and this has to the best of my knowledge been renewed and means the Stena Nordica will not be going back to its old route on Karlskrona - Gydinia.
The Stena Feronia and Stena Nordica are in Belfast this weekend, the Nordica in for a very quick drydocking and the Feronia is in to provide cover for the Birkenhead refits.
The Stena Flavia had a bit of trouble in Travemunde but all seems ok.
http://www.shipwrecklog.com/log/2014/11/travemunde-allision/
The former Finnarrow which provided refit cover for Stena Line (suffering a major issue in Holyehad last time around) and is now the Euroferry Brindisi has been reportedly sold to Polferries, which means it joins as a fleetmate to the former Stena Felicity. (also if true would indicate Grimaldi/Finnlines are buying Polferries as they would be unable to acquire the ship on their own funds.)
How the Finnarrow became Euroferry Brindisi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMxYFLvV0WY
With regard to Explorer's MES, what I have heard is that she is good to operate with 500 pax only - that is if nothing has changed over the past few weeks, etc. However, sources are telling me that it is still far from certain she will definitely run over Christmas, despite the fact Stena have been taking bookings. One assumes this is to see if there is sufficient demand to justify running her.
Stena Baltica's charter has indeed been renewed - a move which did surprise some of us. I would speculate that her capability for drive through loading makes her more attractive than a Visentini for example - part of the rationale for putting her on the link was to reduce turnaround times.
Stena Feronia is indeed up here in Belfast and will be so for the best part of a month. For those interested the planned dry-docking dates for the Birkenhead twins and some details of Feronia's sailings are on my website here http://www.niferrysite.co.uk/?p=578
As for Feronia entering into service as 3rd ship at Birkenhead, stranger things have happened but she is too valuable an asset in the charter market IMO. Stena Hibernia is a slow freight only ship which significantly limits opportunities for her use elsewhere.
RE Polferries, I had heard that Grimaldi where trying to work out something with the Polish state regarding acquiring the business, so Euroferry Brindisi going there could indeed indicate something has been worked out. The current Polferries fleet is rather elderly (you have both the former Felicity and Fantasia there as well as the more freight orientated former Saga Star/Dieppe). The entire fleet are all aged over 30 which could make SECA compliance costly and problematic so I would bte on one of the existing fleet (or 2) being replaced. Scandinavia (former Felicity) certainly looks to be the weak link regarding freight given her small 600lm capacity.
Speculation in the Italian press points to Euroferry Brindisi making up part of the purchase price of the 91% odd of Polferries that the Polish state are selling (the rest is going to the employees). Finnlines have also said they have sold 2 ships (Euroferry Brindisi and Finnhansa) due to over capacity. Tellingly it would not appear that the purchaser of Euroferry Brindisi has been officially announced yet. The negotiation process for the sale of Polferries is due to conclude on 27th November.
Some links
http://www.ihsmaritime360.com/article/15284/finnlines-downsizes-but-bids-for-polferries
http://www.informare.it/news/gennews/2014/20141464-ministero-polacco-riavvia-privat-Polferries-partecipa-Finnlinesuk.asp
Back to Stena, and according to the Danish site Stena have seen a 200% increase on Harwich - Hoek since DFDS closed Harwich to Esbjerg, however it does not say a 200% increase in what.
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/dk/stenaline/pressreleases/danske-bilejere-har-hurtigt-fundet-ny-vej-til-england-1084192
The Stena Germanica methanol thing is also doing the rounds again. Conversion is to be undertaken at Remontowa from January, and is supported financially by the EU MoS programme. As I have said before, this could be an interesting alternative to LNG. Being the first methanol powered ship in the world there are bound to be teething problems, so fingers crossed nothing major happens. Im sure Stena/Wartsila/Remontowa have done their homework anyway.
This is a good thing for Stena especially if it is freight bookings.
Perhaps they might place orders for new tonnage for fleet replacement and expansion soon.
Speaking about the doubts over the HSS, anyone tried to book a crossing on her over Christmas today..... :o
Yes I tried today but it just offered me alternative sailings from Dublin and on certain days the Stena Nordica looked very busy!!!
Stena cancel Christmas HSS sailings
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1121/661615-stena-dun-laoghaire/
Quote from: Ger Tigchelaar on November 21, 2014, 06:37:37 PM
Stena cancel Christmas HSS sailings
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1121/661615-stena-dun-laoghaire/
Is this the end?
Yeah rte news now along with afloat.ie both talking about stena pulling the plug on the hss with only 4 weeks out , last week gift grub was talking about the mes certificate being not valid , I think stena don't want to spend money dry docking her which she is due , as they have no intention running her next year with stena superfast x arriving, .according to dunlaoghaire habour board their CEO Gerry dunne is in talks with stena about next spring / summer in dun laoghaire, I would say that is just a pr exercise for the two companys , I would say stena will probably just pay off their last year of contract to dunlaoghaire habour board, and they will be happy with the cash for next year.i believe there is zero chance of the hss running next year , with regards another fast craft. ,what other ones do stena have left .the carisma is another guzzler and the berthing system for her is different. Have they any lynx crafts left? . And would it be worth all the hassle. But all in all a sad day for dun laoghaire habour. A lot of history with the dun laoghaire holyhead route .possibly a good opportunity for someone to publish a new book on the route, I meane how many people must have passed through. Dun laoghaire habour and the olld Carlisle pier since the route started .
Stena Carisma X 2 Daily or perhaps a Austal Express 86 Ex Baltic or Incat Ex Condor Caterman on summer lease.
I very much doubt Stena will be anywhere near ANY fast craft in the near future, unless there is a significant development in technology. Even though the fuel price has halved it is still far in excess of what the HSS class was designed for. Add to that the hefty bill for Explorer's next dry dock and the costs of recertification (even as she is), not to mention the cost of repairing her MES system. The figures I have been hearing run into the millions - so it probably would work out cheaper to buy out the remaining contract at Dun Laoghaire than to patch up Explorer to continue running a seasonal service which isn't even that well patronised in truth. Given a year or two most people will have sadly forgotten HSS Explorer - Belfast is a case in point.
Regarding Carisma, they can't make her pay in Scandinavia so I doubt they could here either. Relocating her to the Irish Sea would incur a significant cost - her unique infrastructure would need to be towed to the Irish Sea for a start. Given she is also reaching the end of her life, and spares are pretty non-existent, I personally don't see it ever happening.
As I have said elsewhere, Dun Laoghaire shot itself in the foot with the objections to freight movements. Along with the arrival of the first proper ro-pax types such as Stena Challenger (which incidentally wouldn't even fit in Dun Laoghaire), it was the beginning of the end for the town as a ferry port. Dun Laoghaire's death as a ferry port will be mourned, but times change. Plenty of ferry ports have closed over the past few decades, and more will probably follow - all failed to grow and adapt to the changing market until it was too late. Ships like Stena Hibernia and Stena Cambria simply wouldn't be economical to run these days, much in the same way new tonnage has been brought on-stream on the north channel as well in recent years. Unfortunately I don't have much hope for the planned Dun Laoghaire cruise facility particularly given Dublin's plans - but hope to be proved wrong.
Dun Laoire still has a standard linkspan although i do not know if the cateram pontoon is still around.
The Death of HSS was accelerated when she reduced to one sailing per day.
This meant people travelling to Dun Laoire could no longer come on a day trip like before.
A condor Cateram should be available next summer.
Irish Ferries use Swift to carry foot passengers. buses , vans and cars and is full on the early rotation to and from holyhead each day and throughout the summer months.
The crew live on Ulysses which helps reduce crewing costs.
The Austal Fast Craft use Catapillar Diesel Engines which are more fuel efficient than the HSS and are maintained on a power by operating hour basis by Catapillar with local support when required. This helps to keep maintenance costs under control.
The marine evac system on the HSS has to be overhauled on a fixed calendar life basis similar to the evacuation systems on an aircraft. On aircraft the inflatables (Slide and Rafts ) have to be scrapped when they are 15 years old,
I guess a similar fate faces the HSS.
Quote from: Ger Tigchelaar on November 21, 2014, 06:37:37 PM
Stena cancel Christmas HSS sailings
Cancelled exactly 1 month before it was due to start, perhaps due to employment contract notification.
I imagine the HSS will sit in Holyhead now on a "just in case" basis, though even that's a bit pointless if it needs investment just to allow it to achieve capacity.
Whose responsibility will it be to remove all the infrastructure at Dun Laoghaire Harbour - Stena's or DLH?
I would imagine Stena would have to return the facility to the way it was originally
This is the Dublin Airport Authority works anyway. Even the sockets have to be removed from the building.
Stena own the top bit of the linkspan i.e. the bits that move. If there is going to be a replacement vessel for the seasonal service (presumably a "conventional" fastcraft), they can use the original Lynx berth on the other side of the ferry terminal which has the renovated (from 2010) ramp for vessels and the walkway from terminal to ship.
From what I have been hearing the cancellation (of the Christmas HSS) came as a surprise to the people at DL (it was still very much on the cards when I was there 10 days ago!) but things now seem to have moved on past the HSS world and into the world of post April 2015 when the current contract expires.
Rather than being a normal commercial contract, it would make sense that any new contract would work on the basis of a service provision agreement. It's a matter of finding where the numbers make sense on this one - even with Superfast X on the corridor, there is a decent potential there for a 200-300k p/a seasonal passenger service. IF Pete makes the very valid point about how busy Swift is on her morning gig so there is potential there!
As always, never mistake short term numbers for longer term market share and keeping the foot down on the competition :)
Just in terms of Christmas, are we likely to see Feronia running Dub-Holyhead for Christmas to take the extra numbers? Nordica is basically full and Stena won't want to pass the punters to IF. P&O should be trying to rent Express out for the duration!
Pete
I would say the same fate lies ahead for the explorer as happened stena voyager, but as we heard earlier the big problem was the the 500 passanger max with the mes certificate would have ment her only being able to Carry 130 odd cars max with say 3 passangers in each , in summer on her busy sailings she had up to 350 cars on board and 1,300+ passangers. On board. It just would not be viable getting her ready for, and it was just not worth the hassle (as stena don't want to spend any money on her ,hence no dry docking scheduled for her ,and we all know she was due one in December) they kept her on the system for as long as possible ,knowing that when they pulled her ,that nearly all her bookings would be transferred to other stena ships ,as where else can they go with only a few weeks out to christmas..I really don't think stena will operate a smaller craft next year , they will promote the stena superfast heavily instead. Dunlaoghaires only chance is if someone like p&o came in and set up a fast ferry route, but what are the chances of that. I'm glad I was on her this summer, and got some nice photos of her in dun laoghaire on Sunday 31th August .
To be honest guys, demand and carrys have been poor from Dun Laoghaire on all but a few sailings. It's seems obvious to me that bookings where being taken to gauge demand, which obviously has not been there. It was always doubtful she would run, despite the official line. I very much doubt we will see her run again, in passenger service at least - given the major work that needs done to her in the new year for her just to run at all in service.
If Stena do not use the HSS from Dun Loaghaire next year, there will be a big cap in service from Dublin between 8.20 and 15.10, as you always could use the 13.30 HSS getting into Holyhead early afternoon, could Stena add addition service before 15.10 say same time as there crossing from Holyhead or earlier, making it easier for passengers getting to Wales before 17.00 for onward travel in Wales as if you people use the 15.10 this would mean not getting into Holyhead till nearer 19.00 meaning not getting to far on onward travel.
Personally I can see Irish Ferries getting the trade, seeing that they have the Dublin Swiff getting into Holyhead for 16.30 and would mean people using it for earlier arrival.
North Channel update from NI Ferry Site
QuoteStena's Stena Superfast VII and VII are expected to dry dock during March for approximately 2 weeks each. Exact dates have yet to be confirmed, however Stena Nordica (ex European Ambassador) is expected to provide cover once she has been relieved by Stena Superfast X (current Dieppe Seaways). Dieppe Seaways is expected to transfer to Stena at the beginning of December and will proceed to Poland for conversion into a Stena ship for the Dublin to Holyhead route.
QuoteBirkenhead relief vessel Stena Feronia has been experiencing some issues, with Heysham ship Stena Precision switching with the Birkenhead freight vessel Stena Hibernia to clear a backlog of unaccompanied freight which is believed to have built up as a result.
Not a fleet movement, but involves Stena Europe
£240,000 spare ferry propeller blades stolen
http://www.milfordmercury.co.uk/news/pembrokeshire_news/11622550.__240_000_spare_ferry_propeller_blades_stolen/
Quote from: Steven on November 25, 2014, 05:39:05 PM
Not a fleet movement, but involves Stena Europe
£240,000 spare ferry propeller blades stolen
http://www.milfordmercury.co.uk/news/pembrokeshire_news/11622550.__240_000_spare_ferry_propeller_blades_stolen/
Bit late to make this public, how did they manage to get them away with nobody noticing.
Quote from: giftgrub on November 25, 2014, 08:09:14 PM
Quote from: Steven on November 25, 2014, 05:39:05 PM
Not a fleet movement, but involves Stena Europe
£240,000 spare ferry propeller blades stolen
http://www.milfordmercury.co.uk/news/pembrokeshire_news/11622550.__240_000_spare_ferry_propeller_blades_stolen/
Bit late to make this public, how did they manage to get them away with nobody noticing.
Im guessing either an inside job or it was in a place where no-one would notice out of hours. As for specialist equipment, Im guessing a forklift and a trailer would have done the job?
I have been told from a reliable source that Dieppe Seaways/Stena Superfast X will be converted at the Nauta yard in Gdynia, not Remontowa as previously suggested elsewhere.
interesting trip on the Stena Horizon
http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/food-and-drink/drink/booze-cruise-conor-pope-s-winter-wine-shopping-spree-1.2017723
The Stena Alegra might be staying down under (might)
http://www.3news.co.nz/business/kiwirail-confirms-ferry-replacement-2014120114#ixzz3KbzLn7Qy
Minor change to Rosslare-Fishguard sailing schedule:
With immediate effect the 21.00 Rosslare-Fishguard sailing is retimed to 21.15hrs.
Though this retiming is essentially negligible does anyone know the reason for it?
Incidentally Stena Europe's evening sailing used to depart at 21.15hrs till 2011.
(The other sailings are unchanged).
In an email I recieved from Stena, they said it is changed to allow more time for freight traffic to board. But if everyone is onboard and loaded by 21:00, she will depart at 21:00
Quote from: giftgrub on December 01, 2014, 08:41:32 AM
interesting trip on the Stena Horizon
http://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/food-and-drink/drink/booze-cruise-conor-pope-s-winter-wine-shopping-spree-1.2017723
QuoteAll told we've spent about €1,200 on wine. It would set us back €3,200 at home.
Thats a lot of 'personal' consumption!!!!!! Someone is going to have a very Merry Christmas!
Quote from: Ger Tigchelaar on November 21, 2014, 06:37:37 PM
Stena cancel Christmas HSS sailings
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1121/661615-stena-dun-laoghaire/
I hope everyone who had booked at Christmas was offered the option of a refund and not just a transfer to one of Stena's alternative sailings, so that if they wanted to travel on IF Swift, they could have done so.
Given the uncertainty around the HSSs future, which has only been enhanced by the Christmas cancellations, I can only imagine its forward bookings for 2015 are poor. Stena's challenge will be ensuring that past customers don't migrate to the IF Swift.
Quote from: Fast Ferry Fan on December 03, 2014, 02:45:32 PM
Quote from: Ger Tigchelaar on November 21, 2014, 06:37:37 PM
Stena cancel Christmas HSS sailings
http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1121/661615-stena-dun-laoghaire/
I hope everyone who had booked at Christmas was offered the option of a refund and not just a transfer to one of Stena's alternative sailings, so that if they wanted to travel on IF Swift, they could have done so.
Under EU reg.1177/2010 (my reading of it)
Passenger booked with a valid ticket for an elective cancellation can get a refund from Stena, but then there contract is ended with Stena line & they would have to cover any extra expense in travelling with IF.
As this is an elective cancellation by Stena Line they are liable under the EU passenger rights legislation to cover re-routing to final destination at no extra cost & any additional expenses incurred by passengers for hotels, fuel, food etc.
This is capped at a maximum of €80 per person per night and is based on receipted expenditure.
So my reading of it, you would be better off staying with Stena Line re-routing.
Well personally I can't see the HSS running beyond next year (which is why I travelled on the Explorer in September) and I can't see her being directly replaced by a fast cat given the Stena Lynx III has been sold.
What I can see happening is the Stena Superfast X replacing both the Explorer and Nordica as a new Fast Conventional service and the timetable tweaked a little to serve both markets.
You are spot on with your view mrwtho07,except I cannot see the HSS or anything running from dun laoghaire ,by stena line next spring, the habour board are supposed to be in discussions with stena, this is just pr for the public , the only thing to be settled is how much stena will pay the habour board if they have to buy out any of their remaining contract.with the Hss pulled for Christmas , who would bother to book the hss for next year with the uncertantity about it ,so with no advanced bookings for next year there would be no point at all of running it. I do feel stena will loose a certain amount of the hss customers to the swift next summer, but having said that they will hope to pull a few passangers off the espilon ferry on to the superfast to compensate.but look at the money stena will save ,no dun laoghaire contract ,no hss costs which were massive, no Dunlaoghaire ferryport running costs, all in all, I think they will be glad to be rid of dun laoghaire at last.
Quote from: DublinPeter on November 22, 2014, 03:04:22 PM
From what I have been hearing the cancellation (of the Christmas HSS) came as a surprise to the people at DL (it was still very much on the cards when I was there 10 days ago!) but things now seem to have moved on past the HSS world and into the world of post April 2015 when the current contract expires.
From what DublinPeter says, the contract expires in April anyway, so there's no contract to pay off.
To be honest it is very unlikely we will see HSS Explorer in revenue earning service again. There's just too much work needs to be done to keep her in service. Regarding lost customers, she wasn't taking a lot of traffic anyway, and much of what she did take was due to Nordica already being full anyway. This is a scenario which will cease to exist when Nordica is displaced. The HSS wasn't really competing with the swift afterall anyway. Much of the day trip market has gone to the airlines whom the ferry operators just cannot compete on price with.
As for people being unhappy with the change of destination, as I've said before many people have no interest in arriving in Dun Laoghaire these days anyway. Traditionally, the HSS hasn't carried that much traffic over Xmas really, Stena have probably looked at the forward bookings taken and made a financial decision that it was cheaper to pay compensation, etc than to run a loss making service.
I wouldn't be surprised if we have a bit of a price/marketing war either in the new year - Stena will have passenger capacity to burn as well as increased efficiency. Whatever the plans for SSfX, you can guarantee she will be more luxurious than Epsilon! Loyalty to brands isn't what it used to be, passengers are easily bought by cheap deals - just look at the success of Ryanair for example, despite the years of negative publicity.
Speaking of Stena Superfast X, she is currently at Dunkerque and expected to proceed to Gdynia for conversion over the weekend. Given it is already public knowledge (the worst kept secret in the ferry business?) where she is destined, I would expect an announcement from Stena in the near future.
And Stena Nordica will likely end up on the Southern Corridor replacing the Stena Europe. However the Nordica does need work to increase her passenger capacity.
Dieppe Seaways has left Dunkerque and is bound (as predicted) for Gdynia. When she leaves Gdynia she is expected to have be renamed Stena Superfast X.
Stena Feronia still appears to be having problems keeping time! Stena Mersey has returned to service and Stena Lagan is off for dry dock at Falmouth
Stena Lagan in Falmouth, image from Marine Traffic taken by Barrie Clark
Stena Lagan (and Mersey) runs between Belfast and Liverpool, both of which have world renowned shipyards. How is it more cost effective to drydock in Falmouth?
H&W has the P&O Express in drydock so could not take it, not sure about Cammell Laird's but they had to drydock them when the Feronia was available to provide cover and one would assume the yards were given the chance to get the work.
Stena Superfast X is official!
[quoteSTENA LINE INCREASES CAPACITY ON ITS DUBLIN-HOLYHEAD SERVICE
Stena Line has today announced that it will be adding extra tonnage to expand its Dublin to Holyhead service in early 2015. Following months of speculation the company has confirmed that it will be replacing the Stena Nordica with a larger ropax vessel, Stena Superfast X.
Stena Superfast X is a sister ship of the award winning Stena Superfast VII and VIII ships which the company currently operates on the Irish Sea. It has capacity for up to 1,200 passengers and provides almost 2 km of lane space to accommodate a mix of car and freight traffic.
Ian Davies, Stena Line's Route Manager (Irish Sea South) said: "Providing additional capacity and facilities to expand our Dublin- Holyhead route is an important strategic development for Stena Line on the Irish Sea at this time. Our freight and travel customers will now be able to benefit from an enhanced service on this key trade and tourism gateway at a time when commercial and leisure traffic between Ireland and Britain are showing really encouraging signs of future growth.
Ian added: "By introducing a much larger ship onto the route, we are demonstrating our confidence and commitment to a trade and tourism gateway which will play a key part in helping to drive forward the economies on both sides of the Irish Sea. In the last 5 years alone Stena Line has invested over £250m across its Irish Sea operations and we are confident that the improving economic climate in Ireland and Britain will show that this significant resource commitment has been extremely well timed. As the major tourism gateway into Ireland it is important that Dublin benefits from the best possible transport links. We are looking forward to our enhanced passenger service into Dublin in 2015 playing its part in helping to drive up visitor numbers next year and in the years ahead."
Superfast X is currently being modified and fully refitted before taking up her position on the Dublin-Holyhead service in early 2015. The vessel will have a range of facilities including dedicated passenger and freight driver lounges, Barista Coffee House, Met Bar and Grill, a retail shopping outlet and other areas for passengers to relax and enjoy their crossing including Stena Line's award winning signature premium lounge, Stena Plus.
NOTE TO EDITOR: For further information please contact Lawrence Duffy of Duffy Rafferty Communications on Belfast +44 (0) 28 9073 0880.][/quote]
All sailings to Cairnryan cancelled until further notice, due to "technical reasons".
The 2230 Belfast - Liverpool cancelled also due to technical reasons, its abit strange really! On a note further notice is quite worrying really!
Anyone any ideas what the Technical reason is?
Quote from: Steven on December 09, 2014, 01:50:28 PM
All sailings to Cairnryan cancelled until further notice, due to "technical reasons".
Worth pointing out that sailings in both directions are cancelled! Must be something serious if both boats are off all day. The weather here has been getting steadily worse all day - I would like to think if the weather was a cause then they would say this (I guess the weather conditions will affect sailings should the 'Technical issue get fixed'
The fact that P&O are sailing it could be an issue with mooring system, linkspan etc or possibly even a maintenance issue poor fuel, oil etc. no doubt we will find out soon enough.
On the Stena ferry check it has the 2330 tomorrow will hopefully sail, subject to repair being complete. So fairly serious to cancel nearly two full days, and not even operate anything to a substitute port. Also the 2230 sailing from Belfast to Liverpool is also cancelled, a bad day at Stena!
I see now the Stena Feronia is having problems her 1130 morning sailing from Liverpool is now cancelled, 2230 tonight from Belfast is cancelled as is tomorrows 1030 sailing from Liverpool. Stena are having a very bad day!
Posted on FONE
fw7oaksToday at 7:07 PM
"During a scheduled docking procedure at Loch Ryan Port (Cairnryan) earlier today (06.00, Tue Dec 9), Stena Line's Superfast V11 vessel made contact with the fenders which has resulted in the ship remaining moored at the port while a full inspection is carried out. There were no injuries to customers or staff and all car and freight traffic disembarked safely from the ship as normal. All relevant port and marine authorities have been contacted as part of Stena Line's standard operating procedures. As a result of the ongoing inspection of the ship and port facility, today's Stena Line sailings 07.30, 11.30 ,15.30, 19.30 and 23.30 from Belfast and Cairnryan have been cancelled with passengers being transferred to alternative sailings. All affected customers have been contacted".
From Stena Line via Twitter
Quote from: giftgrub on December 01, 2014, 06:43:34 PM
The Stena Alegra might be staying down under (might)
http://www.3news.co.nz/business/kiwirail-confirms-ferry-replacement-2014120114#ixzz3KbzLn7Qy
Looking more likely that Alegra is staying down under
http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/63976932/Stena-Alegra-ferry-to-replace-Arahura
Regarding Cairnryan it's pretty much as gift grub quoted (Stena tweeted this earlier in reply to a customer). Regarding sailings tomorrow, I would say for both North Channel iperators it's a case of wait and see. The weather is already getting rough up here in Belfast and expected to get much worse, with talk of cancellations tomorrow already starting but not confirmed. I know in Scandinavia there have already been cancellations announced for tonight by Stena due to the weather.
Dieppe Seaways should arrive in Gdynia tomorrow morning all being well.
Although she is still moving, Stena Feronia appears to be sheltering off the Welsh coast.
Tonight's departure ex Birkenhead is cancelled. One assumes this is due to Stena Feronia doing a tour of the North Welsh coast at present! The Belfast departure is leaving 30 mins early, I assume to beat the weather
EDIT: 22:30 ex Belfast now in doubt according to Ferry Check
The Stena Alegra has been chartered for five years to Interislander and will be rebuilt prior to entering service, including the addition of stabilisers !. Hopefully it will have better luck in its new role
http://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/stena-alegra-to-be-a-better-ship-kiwirail/ar-BBgwR1K
Quote from: Normandy on December 09, 2014, 06:33:50 PM
On the Stena ferry check it has the 2330 tomorrow will hopefully sail, subject to repair being complete. So fairly serious to cancel nearly two full days, and not even operate anything to a substitute port. Also the 2230 sailing from Belfast to Liverpool is also cancelled, a bad day at Stena!
I see now the Stena Feronia is having problems her 1130 morning sailing from Liverpool is now cancelled, 2230 tonight from Belfast is cancelled as is tomorrows 1030 sailing from Liverpool. Stena are having a very bad day!
RE: a substitute port, where do you suggest they berth a 203m long vessel? I would also assume Stena Superfast VII has some scars from her contact. IMHO they are doing the responsible thing and making sure everything is OK and finding out exactly what went wrong before resuming service. Tbh it's pretty rough out there today, I'm not sure many would be keen on crossing anyway. It would appear most have been accommodated on P&O's service.
Steven is there anything wrong with Liverpool, also ships like the superfasts and any ferry must have a back up port in mind a port of refuge, so it would or should be possible to activate this plan. Superfast 8 would be free and having a troublesome stena Feriona is not help things.
Quote from: Normandy on December 09, 2014, 09:32:39 PM
Steven is there anything wrong with Liverpool, also ships like the superfasts and any ferry must have a back up port in mind a port of refuge, so it would or should be possible to activate this plan. Superfast 8 would be free and having a troublesome stena Feriona is not help things.
From memory they can't fit at Birkenhead - the fenders aren't long enough and there would be a good 15m plus overhang. Plus they have never berthed there before and the port also lacks a double decked linkspan, which although not essential it would severely complicate matters. Theres also up to 3 sailings each way per day from Birkenhead now which would make things tricky from a marshalling perspective I guess. To put things into perspective (about their size) the closest places they can fit to dry dock are Harland and Wolff, Cammel Laird, Falmouth, and Brest! I don't think they where carrying that many passengers TBH, else they wouldn't have been able to transfer to P&O. If you had planned to travel to Scotland would you be happy being diverted to Liverpool - a port in another country and some 240 odd miles away (or over 4 hours drive).
They do have a backup port for refuge - Belfast and Lough Ryan Port. Remember, that neither port is in open water (though LRP is rather exposed but nothing like somewhere like Larne for instance). This doesn't mean that they have to be able to load and unload though. There is a layover berth at LRP, though I'm guessing it was not practical to use this. Its shares the fenders from memory with the main berth and has no DD linkspan either.
Just out of memory, the ulysses berthed there when it's berth in holyhead was damaged and ulysses is 209 metres long. There are two berths on 12 quays also. She could have sailed in place of stena Feronia, as she is cancelled. Yes the lady berth is an option too and would have meant little upset to operation or indeed passengers. Ships sitting alongside berths do not make money.
I think the issue here is safety though. They need to investigate what went wrong - plus we do not know how extensive the damage is to the fenders at LRP - it could be the lay-by berth is also out of action. I don't know what conditions ulysses berthed in tbh, perhaps someone could enlighten us. Even still, its still a 240 mile trip for all the passengers and freight onboard. Much simpler to transfer them to P&O or offer them alternative travel. Also bear in mind the super fasts have very little cabin space for what could be a very long crossing given the weather.
There seems to be a Stena X-mas get-together going on on the Mersey btw. Stena Feronia is on approach to Birkenhead (she is not cancelled just delayed due to weather), Stena Mersey is alongside, Stena Hibernia is also headed there and just a couple of hours away, and Stena Precison has also left Belfast this evening bound for Birkenhead.
Stena Mersey has now left Birkenhead for Belfast.
Superfast sailings are now all cancelled until tomorrow's 19:30 departure at the earliest - this is to be reviewed closer to the time. The incident yesterday has now reached the press:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-30416060
Additionally Stena Merseys sailing to Birkenhead tonight is cancelled. According to ferry check this is due to adverse weather - however she has yet to arrive in Birkenhead from this mornings Belfast departure! She's off the North Welsh Coast at present. Stena Feronia is currently still expected to depart Birkenhead for Belfast tonight as scheduled.
Sailings to and from Cairnryan are back in from this morning, albeit some have been re-timed. Stena Superfast VII made a brief trip over to Belfast (Stena Superfast VIII went for a cruise up Belfast lough to vacate the berth) this evening and has returned to Cairnryan. One can only guess that Stena have sorted something out at Cairnryan to allow some sort of service to resume.
Stena Europe out of action...again. Bow door again?
http://www.stenaline.ie/ferries-to-britain/latest-sailing-updates/rosslare-fishguard
After she battled the bad weather so well! :(, guess ir is better to get it sorted before busy xmas season.
Images of the Stena Lagan refitting in Falmouth - now on Marine Traffic a big thank you to Barrie Clark for posting the images.
Looks like its getting a full repaint.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/photos/of/ships/shipid:193822/ship_name:STENA%20LAGAN#first
Also a couple of images of the future Stena Superfast X at the shipyard in Gydnia on the following link
http://www.nauta.pl/index.php?stenas-ferry-conversion-at-nauta
The mersey spirit is back in rosslare to bunker with the stena horizon again. She seems to be over every 4-5 weeks now.
I never realised how often the Oscar Wilde bunkers either. Maybe my eyes were closed but Inver Energy seem to top up the fuel every time she sails into rosslare now...usually 3-4 trucks each time.
Quote from: giftgrub on December 15, 2014, 09:29:56 PM
Images of the Stena Lagan refitting in Falmouth - now on Marine Traffic a big thank you to Barrie Clark for posting the images.
Looks like its getting a full repaint.
http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/photos/of/ships/shipid:193822/ship_name:STENA%20LAGAN#first
Also a couple of images of the future Stena Superfast X at the shipyard in Gydnia on the following link
http://www.nauta.pl/index.php?stenas-ferry-conversion-at-nauta
Mersey got a full repaint so I would say her sister is definitely getting the same. I am also told Stena Mersey was given a thorough going over technically as well, so again would expect Lagan to do so as well. Stena are definitely investing a lot into the Irish Sea fleet over the next year it would seem!
Hi Steven,
Do you know if they salvaged the marine evacuation system from the stena Voyager,
It is not as old as the Stena Explorers System,
It is possible that the time expired components of the explorers system could be replaced and the slides overhauled,
It could mean another summer season for the Stena Explorer on Holyhead - Dun Laoire.
Quote from: giftgrub on December 15, 2014, 09:29:56 PM
Images of the Stena Lagan refitting in Falmouth - now on Marine Traffic a big thank you to Barrie Clark for posting the images.
Looks like its getting a full repaint.
Doesn't have a very large bulbous bow does she?
Stena Lagan is back in service all shiny and clean after it's major overhaul in Falmouth and Stena Feronia's next job is to provide cover for Stena Germanica's major refit and conversion to Methanol.
Feronia looks in need of some maintenance before entering service in Gothenburg as it struggled to maintain schedules while covering the Mersey/Lagan refits.
The rebuild of Dieppe Seaways in well underway with lots of stripping already completed on deck 7&8.
Quote from: giftgrub on December 22, 2014, 10:24:05 AM
Stena Lagan is back in service all shiny and clean after it's major overhaul in Falmouth and Stena Feronia's next job is to provide cover for Stena Germanica's major refit and conversion to Methanol.
Feronia looks in need of some maintenance before entering service in Gothenburg as it struggled to maintain schedules while covering the Mersey/Lagan refits.
Feronia just sailed from Belfast [23.15 ish] on its way to Lysekil.
Stena Europe departure from Rosslare tonight at 19.00 hrs, currently on schedule to be in Rosslare on time, calm weather today.
Stena to alter timings on North Channel for the late night crossings on the Superfasts:
05/01/15
Ex Belfast:
- Saturday 2330 will now sail 2300 with a passage time of 2 hours 45 mins. Arrival 0145.
- Sunday 2300 departs at the same time but now arrives 0130. 2 hours 30 mins.
Ex Loch Ryan Port:
- Saturday 2330 now sails 2300 with a passage time of 2 hours 45 mins. Arrival 0145.
- Sunday 0530 will now sail 0500 and arrival will be the same time as previously, 0745.
- Sunday 2359 will now sail 2300 and arrive 0145.
Quote from: Davy Jones on December 21, 2014, 05:02:38 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on December 15, 2014, 09:29:56 PM
Images of the Stena Lagan refitting in Falmouth - now on Marine Traffic a big thank you to Barrie Clark for posting the images.
Looks like its getting a full repaint.
Doesn't have a very large bulbous bow does she?
The later Visentini's all have this patented 'flexbow' design which is optimised for efficiency.
After a relatively calm Christmas period, Stena's Irish Sea fleet gets ready for the next phase of fleet refits, with the Birkenhead Lagan, Mersey and Hibernia refits complete along with Stena Perfomer, vessels left for refit are
Stena Precision- expected into H&W next
Stena Europe - either H&W or Falmouth as soon as Nordica is released (if not before)- end of Feb
Stena Superfast VII and VIII - March into H&W
Stena Adventurer - looks like April for refit into H&W
Stena Nordica - has had no major hull work for a long time, may get additional dry docking after covering on all remains Irish Sea refits.
Stena Superfast X - conversion work still ongoing expected on Irish Sea by mid February
HSS Stena Explorer - must refit in H&W if returning to service in 2015 - no refit means a change of life to soft drinks cans for the Concorde of the Irish Sea.
Quote from: giftgrub on January 12, 2015, 10:39:55 PM
After a relatively calm Christmas period, Stena's Irish Sea fleet gets ready for the next phase of fleet refits, with the Birkenhead Lagan, Mersey and Hibernia refits complete along with Stena Perfomer, vessels left for refit are
Stena Precision- expected into H&W next
Stena Europe - either H&W or Falmouth as soon as Nordica is released (if not before)- end of Feb
Stena Superfast VII and VIII - March into H&W
Stena Adventurer - looks like April for refit into H&W
Stena Nordica - has had no major hull work for a long time, may get additional dry docking after covering on all remains Irish Sea refits.
Stena Superfast X - conversion work still ongoing expected on Irish Sea by mid February
HSS Stena Explorer - must refit in H&W if returning to service in 2015 - no refit means a change of life to soft drinks cans for the Concorde of the Irish Sea.
I was just about to (more or less) post the same ;). Anyways, one addition to the fleet movements - Stena Hibernia should have returned to service today, but is still at Harland & Wolff. Stena Precision is Belfast bound now so we shall see if they swap over once Precision discharges.
Quote from: giftgrub on January 12, 2015, 10:39:55 PM
HSS Stena Explorer - must refit in H&W if returning to service in 2015 - no refit means a change of life to soft drinks cans for the Concorde of the Irish Sea.
If she
is coming back - according to the booking engine on 25th March, then presumably the refit would have to take place before then.
The Key question regarding Stena Explorers future is what was salvaged off the Stena voyager.
The Marine Evacuation system on it is younger so the life limited parts (LLPs) on it could be used to replace the time expired parts on the Stena Explorers System.
Any news on the Stena Nordica's future deployment following the arrival of Stena Superfast X
Does Stena Horizon need to be drydocked this year?
Quote from: IFPete on January 13, 2015, 09:07:12 AM
The Key question regarding Stena Explorers future is what was salvaged off the Stena voyager.
The Marine Evacuation system on it is younger so the life limited parts (LLPs) on it could be used to replace the time expired parts on the Stena Explorers System.
MES isn't the only problem, there are other rather expensive jobs to be done. as for Voyager's parts I'd say they'd have already been used if available to maintain a full pax certificate.
Quote from: IFPete on January 13, 2015, 12:14:20 PM
Does Stena Horizon need to be drydocked this year?
No, had a drydocking in Jan this year, however if Stena do intend to purchase it might be sent away for application of Stena Hull branding and interior modifications, however there have been no announcements yet.
Afaik, Stena have done all they can to Horizon while she is on charter - similar to IF with Epsilon. However, as Giftgrub said if Stena where to purchase her (like they did Lagan and Mersey) chances are she'd get a thorough makeover like her sisters. However, Stena won't pay over the odds for a ship, especially if hey are already chartering it at an agreeable rate which I assume they are.
Quote from: Davy Jones on January 13, 2015, 01:29:23 AMIf she is coming back - according to the booking engine on 25th March, then presumably the refit would have to take place before then.
Since notice was given 1 month before she was due to sail for Christmas that she wouldn't be running (perhaps to satisfy employment contracts?), I presume that the same notice period would be served if the HSS was not running over summer, ie the news would break around 25 February.
Going by her carryings over her spring/summer stint last year, I wouldn't hold my breath - even without the costly maintenance which is required! Stena Superfast X could easily take up her carryings and then some!
Speaking of Stena Superfast X, does anyone have any pics of her conversion in Gdynia?
Sailing update 14/1/15
Belfast-Birkenhead
10:30 ex Belfast – Delayed
22:30 ex Belfast – Cancelled
10:30 ex Birkenhead – Delayed
22:30 ex Birkenhead – Delayed by 90 minutes at time of writing
Belfast – Cairnryan (LRP)
19:30 ex Belfast: Cancelled
23:30: ex Belfast: Cancelled
19:30 ex Cairnryan: Cancelled
23:30: ex Cairnryan: Cancelled
Quote from: gezdub on January 14, 2015, 05:00:18 PM
Speaking of Stena Superfast X, does anyone have any pics of her conversion in Gdynia?
Unfortunately no images to post, decks 7&8 totally stripped bare before Christmas, major work done on stern door and nearly all exterior areas pressure washed ready for painting, major rebuild for bow and stern taking place before drydocking for hull clean and paint, not long before it will be on the Irish Sea.
Quote from: Steven on January 13, 2015, 11:06:16 PM
Stena Superfast X could easily take up her carryings and then some!
Question is, would the travellers decide to opt for the Swift instead?
Storm Rachel afternoon update (NI), 15/1/15
Severe disruption to ferry services continues as storm Rachel continues to batter both the UK and Ireland. All Stena services to and from Cairnryan and Belfast are either cancelled or in doubt (see below), with both vessels shortly to be in Belfast – Stena Superfast VIII left Cairnryan at around 12:30 and is currently approaching Belfast Lough (at 14:10).
The following is taken directly from Stena's ferry check service.
Ex Belfast
Superfast VII 03:30 05:52 Cancelled
Superfast VIII07:30 09:52 Cancelled
Superfast VII 11:30 13:52 Cancelled
Superfast VIII15:30 17:52 In Doubt
Superfast VII 19:30 21:52 In Doubt
Superfast VIII23:30 01:52 In Doubt
Ex Cairnryan
Superfast VIII04.00 06:45 Cancelled
Superfast VII 07:30 09:45 Departed
Superfast VIII11:30 13:45 Cancelled
Superfast VII 15:30 17:45 Cancelled
Superfast VIII19:30 21:45 In Doubt
Superfast VII 23:30 01:45 In Doubt
Tonights departure for Liverpool (Birkenhead) will leave 30 minutes early at 22:00, whilst this mornings sailing was cancelled. The same also applies to the sailings from Birkenhead to Belfast. Again, this information is taken from Ferry check. Stena Lagan is currently alongside at VT2 Belfast.
P&O's latest update via twitter (early this morning) states that all Larne – Cairnryan sailings are cancelled until further notice. European Highlander is idle in Larne whereas European Causeway is at the berth in Cairnryan.
Quote from: Davy Jones on January 15, 2015, 12:06:25 AM
Quote from: Steven on January 13, 2015, 11:06:16 PM
Stena Superfast X could easily take up her carryings and then some!
Question is, would the travellers decide to opt for the Swift instead?
Thats the gamble Stena are taking, but from what my sources tell me the HSS acted more as an overspill for those who couldn't get on to Nordica rather than being booked on her own merits. Exceptions of course applied, and it will be interesting to see if the Swift does get a genuine transfer of passengers from Stena (as opposed to organic growth experienced on all services)
A while since I've posted on here, but it has been good to read the various reports.
Anything regarding the future of the Stena Nordica, post her refit covering?
Quote from: mrwtho07 on January 15, 2015, 07:15:40 PM
A while since I've posted on here, but it has been good to read the various reports.
Anything regarding the future of the Stena Nordica, post her refit covering?
Nothing even close to official yet. All rumours and speculation at present. There will be a plan, but Stena are keeping their cards close to their chests!
Stena are operating to Cairnryan but with some delays. Again, expect there to be a backlog as earlier passengers are being accommodated on later sailings. Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey are en route to Birkenhead and Belfast respectively.
Seatruck's 20:00 departure from Heysham (arriving 05:00 tomorrow) was reportedly cancelled, however tomorrow mornings sailing is now planned to go ahead. The 02:00 ex Warrenpoint is currently expected to sail and the 20:00 is underway (Seatruck Panorama)
Thanks Steven, I do agree with you.
I see Dieppe Seaways (Superfast X) has been moved to a dry dock in Gdynia today. Must be getting her new livery applied, her arrival on the central corridor getting closer does anyone know when she is due to take up her role.
Stena are selling Stena Feronia to Strait Shipping subsidiary Bluebridge, in New Zealand. She will replace Santa Regina and operate alongside Straistman, ex Dueodde of Bornholmerfaergen.
Has Feronia effectively been replaced by Superfast X? Her sale maybe a sign that Nordica will head to the Baltic after her Irish Sea career.
Quote from: Steam Packet on January 20, 2015, 09:41:13 AM
Stena are selling Stena Feronia to Strait Shipping subsidiary Bluebridge, in New Zealand. She will replace Santa Regina and operate alongside Straistman, ex Dueodde of Bornholmerfaergen.
Has Feronia effectively been replaced by Superfast X? Her sale maybe a sign that Nordica will head to the Baltic after her Irish Sea career.
Feronia has not been replaced as she is owned by Stena RoRo not Stena Line! As for Stena Nordica, I have heard a rumour she has a definite new job lined up - and it isn't in the Baltic.
What happens to all the crews during these upheavals? Will the Nordica crew just take over Superfast X and so on?
Quote from: Steven on January 20, 2015, 01:27:49 PM
Quote from: Steam Packet on January 20, 2015, 09:41:13 AM
Stena are selling Stena Feronia to Strait Shipping subsidiary Bluebridge, in New Zealand. She will replace Santa Regina and operate alongside Straistman, ex Dueodde of Bornholmerfaergen.
Has Feronia effectively been replaced by Superfast X? Her sale maybe a sign that Nordica will head to the Baltic after her Irish Sea career.
Feronia has not been replaced as she is owned by Stena RoRo not Stena Line! As for Stena Nordica, I have heard a rumour she has a definite new job lined up - and it isn't in the Baltic.
Stena Superfast X is replacing Stena Nordica and Stena Explorer out of Holhead to Dublin/ Dun Laoghaire, Stena Feronia is Stena Ro Ro and has been fulfilling charters for the last few years and is now sold, along with the Stena Alegra which has been long term chartered that's two Stena ships heading down under for a long time. Feronia will be dry docked in Europe first as it is in need of some major work.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/65227952/straight-shipping-buys-new-ferry
Superfast X will be getting major hull work done along with propeller replacement, rudder maintenance, thruster maintenance and anti fouling application while in drydock along with repainting the hull and Stena Line branding, one wonders will the Blue Wave branding will finally appear on the Irish Sea as distinct from the North Channel
Stena Nordica will possibly be transferred to Stena RoRo and may end up on the charter market as it was rejected by the Rosslare Fishguard management as too small for the route with regards to passenger capacity. Lots of rumours as to the Nordicas final destination, but latest one seems to indicate it will be going out on charter to another ferry company in Europe.
The Stena Europe is expected to refit in Feb from the 8th to the 18th in H&W Belfast, with cover provided by the Isle of Inishmore with all Stena traffic transferring to Irish Ferries for the 10 days as Stena charter space on the Inishmore. Squeezing in the refit before Superfast X arrival allows more time for Superfast VII and VIII and possibly Adventurer to get drydocked while Nordica is available to provide cover.
Interestingly, Stena Feronia will be competing directly with two other former Irish Sea vessels out there - Kaitaki (ex Isle of Innisfree) and Stena Allegra (ex Dawn Merchant). She's also significantly larger in terms of vehicle capacity than her running mate Straitsman (ex Dueodde and closely related to Ben My Chree - another Irish Sea connection).
Speaking of Stena Allegra, heres the official spiel from kiwi rail about her refit and replacing of Aratare. Seems she is to get fin stabilisers as part of her upgrade. http://www.kiwirail.co.nz/uploads/Publications/Stena%20Alegra%20backgrounder.pdf
When is Stena Danica moving to Fishguard?
Quote from: IFPete on January 21, 2015, 10:41:57 PM
When is Stena Danica moving to Fishguard?
who said she is moving to fishguard???
Quote from: IFPete on January 21, 2015, 10:41:57 PM
When is Stena Danica moving to Fishguard?
Unlikely to ever happen, still performing on its own route, no immediate need for change
Quote from: giftgrub on January 21, 2015, 11:26:41 PM
Quote from: IFPete on January 21, 2015, 10:41:57 PM
When is Stena Danica moving to Fishguard?
Unlikely to ever happen, still performing on its own route, no immediate need for change
She is around the same age as Europe as well, if it ever where to happen it would be a temporary solution at best.
At present it looks like Stena Europe will continue on at Fishguard for the forseeable future. It will be interesting to see what eventually does replace her though!
Stena will need to look at fleet replacement between Sweden and Denmark as soon as the rules on emissions bed down.
There must be room for another quartette of ferries to be ordered soon,
I was wondering if Kiel Goteborg might close and release ships for other routes.
Courtesy of Kim Victor on the Cruise and Ferry International Facebook group, this article (in Danish) suggests DFDS are to take Nordica to replace Dieppe Seaways on an 18 month charter.
http://www.soefart.dk/?art=6040
Interesting news and a proper ship swap. I do feel the Nordica's passenger capacity is a little on the low side and she will need significant bow reconfiguration for Calais. But this shows DFDS are still committed to Calais and Dunkirk. It is also interesting that the Nordica has operated (will be operating) for the three largest UK ferry companies.
At least we finally know where she's going now :).
Nordica would look great in DFDS colours.
At least this finally puts the rumours of Stena Europe getting replaced by Stena Nordica to bed once and for all! Must admit I was shocked to learn the Stena Nordica is Dover bound.
Nordica won't be going until end of March.
Stena Superfast X/Dieppe Seaways has now moved to the dry dock in Gdynia for a full repaint and switching of her props to more efficient models amongst other things.
Stena Superfast X currently covered in plastic sheeting in drydock as major repainting of the hull has started, all traces of DFDS blue will be removed and hull painted to Stena Line livery, don't be surprised if one of its first stops will be in Belfast or Cairnryan for a photo shoot with VII and VIII when on the way to Holyhead, most of the major rebuilding of the bow and stern areas is complete with the interior rebuild starting to take shape and car decks being painted and spruced up also, not long now till we see it on the Irish Sea.
Quote from: giftgrub on January 28, 2015, 09:10:03 PM
Stena Superfast X currently covered in plastic sheeting in drydock as major repainting of the hull has started, all traces of DFDS blue will be removed and hull painted to Stena Line livery, don't be surprised if one of its first stops will be in Belfast or Cairnryan for a photo shoot with VII and VIII when on the way to Holyhead, most of the major rebuilding of the bow and stern areas is complete with the interior rebuild starting to take shape and car decks being painted and spruced up also, not long now till we see it on the Irish Sea.
Hopefully Belfast and on a day I am not working!!!!
I would imagine they would time it's arrival in the North channel whenever Superfast VII & VIII pass each other in the middle of the Irish sea.. A photoshoot in Belfast for all three would severely disrupt the timetable, unless they do it early Sunday Morning whenever the VII and VIII meet in Belfast Lough.
But I agree, it would be good to see the trio in Belfast!
Quote from: n3alf1n on January 29, 2015, 04:35:49 PM
I would imagine they would time it's arrival in the North channel whenever Superfast VII & VIII pass each other in the middle of the Irish sea.. A photoshoot in Belfast for all three would severely disrupt the timetable, unless they do it early Sunday Morning whenever the VII and VIII meet in Belfast Lough.
But I agree, it would be good to see the trio in Belfast!
Good point, unlikely for any of us 'normal' people to get all 3 together in that case. Might be possible to get 2 if onboard the 'right' ship though at the correct time. Obviously the Sunday morning option would be our preference though ;)
I would be prepared to sacrifice a day off work if I knew a particular sailing would guarantee me a opportunity to see them together!
Best view of all 3 together will be from a helicopter in the middle of the Irish Sea, unless the Stena promotions budget will not run to that, in which case they'll have to buy a ticket on a P&O boat. ;D
Quote from: Davy Jones on January 29, 2015, 10:10:19 PM
Best view of all 3 together will be from a helicopter in the middle of the Irish Sea, unless the Stena promotions budget will not run to that, in which case they'll have to buy a ticket on a P&O boat. ;D
Lol, given P&O's pricing the helicopter might be cheaper :p.
Think I'd take a wee holiday off as well if we got the details. Wee forum meet up lol ;)
Going to be on the Stena Superfast X in March :)
Services to and from Cairnryan are expected to be disrupted today with the 07:30 ex Cairnryan and 03:30 and 11:30 ex Belfast already cancelled. All other services except the 23:30 departures are currently listed as 'in doubt' on Stena's Ferry Check website http://www.stenaline.co.uk/latest-sailing-updates. Services to and from Birkenhead are operating to schedule according to the service.
P&O Sailings to Cairnryan are currently advised to be operating on schedule, but with high winds in the North Channel (gale force 8) and 6-8 metre waves predicted it is reasonable to say there may be disruption later on.
Looks like stena line Dublin holyhead sailings are all over the place at present. Stena Adventurer is on her berth and the Nordica is in Alexandra basin. I would imagine the weather hasn't helped as of 15.36 saturday.
Weather playing havoc with schedules, Adventurer took a brief trip out into the bay to allow Nordica to unload and then move down to Ocean Pier 33 before coming back into berth herself. This afternoons Epsilon departure to France is delayed, waiting to see what they do as she is on the berth with Ulysses entering the bay. Swift's return from service was due to start today but all sailings cancelled.
An amazing picture of the Europe battling the weather surfaced online, seemingly they managed to offload the foot passengers after which one of the ropes broke and made contact with a crew member so they took her back out, I have no idea if the crew member was injured as a result
what picture got a link
Possibly this one
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152546727811671&set=a.495663016670.273004.622911670&type=1&theater
Or this
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10205479508528601&set=o.180521675319022&type=1&theater
these are the images from Aaron Peake (long range)
Western Telegraph
Superb picture.
As an HGV driver in the dim, distant past, I have lost count of the number of crossings on the southern corridor that experienced similar types of weather.
STs Patrick And Killian were 1/3 to 1/2 the size of Europe and ploughed through H**L and very high waters to and from France in the early seventies and into the eighties with many, many hours 'heave to' off port(s) for the swell to subside enough to attempt docking.
I remember well the outstanding facilities of the 'big white telephone' system which was a lifesaver in many cases.
They really don't make ships of that calibre any more.
PS, I'm on a return trip from Rosslare to Cherbourg returning from Roscoff in May as a 'one off' to Italy as a nostalgic trip during which I hope to recall 'The Good Old Days'. The old F89-320 has now been replaced by a more modest FH-540. ;) 8)
Europe is still circling in Cardigan Bay (several hours now)Adventurer and Nordica berthed while Ulysses ploughing across, Epsilon en route to Cherbourg as is Horizon and Oscar Wilde well under way. Questions have been asked before about the suitability of Stena vessels on the Irish Sea, their policy of best fit rather than purpose built ships seems to come up every time there is a bad spell of weather and for good reason.
Quote from: ferryfan on January 31, 2015, 11:08:48 PM
Europe is still circling in Cardigan Bay (several hours now)Adventurer and Nordica berthed while Ulysses ploughing across, Epsilon en route to Cherbourg as is Horizon and Oscar Wilde well under way. Questions have been asked before about the suitability of Stena vessels on the Irish Sea, their policy of best fit rather than purpose built ships seems to come up every time there is a bad spell of weather and for good reason.
Fishguard is significantly less sheltered than Milford Haven and is also experiencing stronger winds at present. There is also no tug support. Little to do with the actual ship to be honest - the winds are too strong to hold her alongside so its a question of the safety of the passengers/cargo and the ship!
Nordica WAS built for the Irish Sea and to operate from Dublin specifically. Neither Epsilon or Oscar Wilde where purpose built either, and Isle of Inishmore is based on Stena Jutlandica but with less installed power and the same 2 x 1500kw KaMeWa thrusters! Adventurer could definitely do with an additional thruster though given her size. At the end of the day its the masters decision whether to sail or not. Personally if I was a passenger I would prefer to wait on dry land!
Stena Adventurer now leaving Dublin, freeing up the berth at Dublin for Stena Nordica which is about to dock.
Nothing to do with suitability to Irish Sea, just the fact that conditions are preventing Europe from docking, the Oscar Wilde has been running behind schedule for most of the time since arriving on route in December, just one of the weather issues today is hitting Fishguard more than anywhere else, think the Europe actually arrived in time this afternoon, but winds too high to unload vehicles safely. Since last major refit and replacement of stabiliser the Europe has missed very few sailings due to the weather.
Quote from: giftgrub on February 01, 2015, 12:13:28 AM
Nothing to do with suitability to Irish Sea, just the fact that conditions are preventing Europe from docking, the Oscar Wilde has been running behind schedule for most of the time since arriving on route in December, just one of the weather issues today is hitting Fishguard more than anywhere else, think the Europe actually arrived in time this afternoon, but winds too high to unload vehicles safely. Since last major refit and replacement of stabiliser the Europe has missed very few sailings due to the weather.
Theres some pictures doing the rounds on Facebook of some lorries which broke their lashings and turned over on her. Some of the pictures of her at sea are almost unbelievable, she's riding those waves like a champ. I doubt much food is being consumed on board though!
Nordica is now berthed on 51.
Unconfirmed reports from Holyhead that the Stena Nordica has hit some part of the berth and sustained some minor damage, currently moored in different area of the port from the two main ramps.
Yes, looks like Nordica sailings are cancelled.
Quote from: cullyburn on January 31, 2015, 10:53:57 PM
PS, I'm on a return trip from Rosslare to Cherbourg returning from Roscoff in May as a 'one off' to Italy as a nostalgic trip during which I hope to recall 'The Good Old Days'. The old F89-320 has now been replaced by a more modest FH-540. ;) 8)
FH-540, not bad, be sure to keep us informed of your trip!
Quote from: HSS on February 01, 2015, 10:25:46 PM
Yes, looks like Nordica sailings are cancelled.
(http://i57.tinypic.com/j7t83o.jpg)
Now cancelled for today and tomorrow. How serious is the damage?
Where's the Stena Superfast X when you need her?!
Damage is serious enough obviously! For the record, Nordica didn't hit the quay - she was struck by the bunkering vessel Keewhit which lost power.
Quote from: Steven on February 02, 2015, 07:46:12 PM
Damage is serious enough obviously! For the record, Nordica didn't hit the quay - she was struck by the bunkering vessel Keewhit which lost power.
Latest from ferry check
"Owing To a Technical Problem The 08:55 Hrs & 20:30 Hrs Sailing From Holyhead to Dublin Monday 2 February & Tuesday 3 February Have Been Cancelled .
Passengers Booked For this Service Should Ring Our Call Centre on 08447 70 70 70, after 08:00 Hrs This Morning, To Re-Book An Alternative Sailing.
Please ring Our FerryCheck No. 08705 755 755 For Sailing Updates."
"
SAILING CANCELLATIONS 02/03/04 FEBRUARY 2015
Stena Line regret to inform that following sailings from Dublin Port are cancelled due to technical reasons:
02/01/2015 15:10
03/01/2015 02:15
03/01/2015 15:10
04/01/2015 02:15
Please telephone +35312047777 (ROI) or +448447707070 (UK) to transfer to an
alternative sailing.
Pic of Nordica sent to me earlier. This would be why she's off service!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1622150_1061928123822431_133861687030937824_n.jpg?oh=a16d268f72602904ffbd76a096b2bfa7&oe=55669A37&__gda__=1431693322_7d5f1ea1563dc3d8287e66692bbbf709)
Ouch! That is a nasty gash!
Quote from: Ger Tigchelaar on February 03, 2015, 01:46:14 PM
Ouch! That is a nasty gash!
Not as major as would first appear, and nothing a sheet of steel and a welder can't fix. However, the proper processes and procedures have to be followed first.
do you believe they will carry out this repair in holyhead.
Bad timing with Irish Ferries only running one ferry until Thursday when Inishmore takes over Epsilons duties
Quote from: IFPete on February 03, 2015, 08:40:09 PM
do you believe they will carry out this repair in holyhead.
Wouldn't surprise me if she's back by the weekend tbh. Depends on the relevant authorities giving the all clear. She'll be heading to dry dock soon anyway, so a temporary repair will keep her going.
QuoteIssued on behalf of Stena Line
Date: 4th February 2015
Stena Line consolidates ferry services into Dublin Port
Stena Line today announced a consolidation of its services from Holyhead to Dublin Port. The company has stated that it will be concentrating on expanding its existing ferry service at Dublin Port while at the same time confirming that it is withdrawing its HSS Stena Explorer service from Dun Laoghaire Harbour.
Ian Davies, Stena Line's Route Manager for Irish Sea South, said: "With two services operating approx. 10 miles apart we needed to make a decision in relation to what operation best serves the needs of our customers now and in the years ahead, and that operation is Dublin Port."
Stena Line has operated the HSS Stena Explorer into Dun Laoghaire since 1995 during which time the vessel has carried a mix of passengers, car and coach traffic. The Dun Laoghaire service was successful for several years following its introduction, carrying over 1.7 million passengers annually during its peak in 1998. However, post the withdrawal of 'duty free' shopping, passenger and cars volumes declined dramatically and by 2014, less than 200,000 ferry passengers travelled through Dun Laoghaire Harbour. This represented a decline of over 90% in volume, making the route unsustainable.
During the same time period Stena Line has continued to make significant investment in larger better equipped vessels, and this, coupled with key improvements in road infrastructure and connectivity to Dublin, Belfast and further afield, has led to a significant uplift in both passenger and freight volumes through its evolving Dublin Port business. Car and passenger volumes into Dublin Port overtook Dun Laoghaire as far back as 2008. Since then volumes through Dublin Port have continued to grow, as volumes through Dun Laoghaire have contracted thus providing Stena Line with a stark choice in relation to its future route network in the region.
Ian Davies added: "While we have enjoyed a very professional working relationship with Dun Laoghaire Harbour over many years, the economic realities of the current situation in relation to our business levels have left us with no choice but to close the service. Dublin continues to grow in importance, not only as the core freight port for Ireland but also as the key tourism gateway into Ireland."
"Ireland remains a strategically important region for us which is why Stena Line has invested over £250m across our Irish Sea business in the last five years alone. A number of economic indicators point to the continued recovery of the Irish and UK economies which has helped to stimulate renewed freight growth and returning tourism confidence in 2014. In 2014 we invested in a new Stena Line service to France from Rosslare and recently announced the arrival of the superferry Stena Superfast X into Dublin Port by late February."
Looking ahead, Stena Line is confident that this upward trend will continue which is why it has committed to increasing its capacity on the Dublin Port service. The new vessel Superfast X offers space for up to 1, 200 passengers and in addition to a host of improved onboard passenger facilities including the premium Stena Plus lounge, the ship also boasts 2 km of vehicle lane capacity and with its year round sailing schedule further underpins Stena Line's commitment to helping to expand freight trade volumes in the region.
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Stena Nordica moved onto Holyhead T5 Berth at 1520 today.
She is now back in service.
Stena Horizon has gone technical this evening and tonight's departure delayed until tomorrow night. Alongside in Rosslare at the moment.
Stena Germanica's new colours to reflect its new environmentally friendly methanol propulsion...
Looks cool, the green wave replacing the blue wave, at least they are letting people know there is some carbon emission reduction going on, just hope the Menthanol works
Quote from: giftgrub on February 20, 2015, 08:31:18 PM
Looks cool, the green wave replacing the blue wave, at least they are letting people know there is some carbon emission reduction going on, just hope the Menthanol works
Indeed. At least unlike the other alternatives (including gas) their isn't a finite supply of methanol in the world. Present solutions are just replacing one fossil fuel with another. A much more exciting project than the ugly scrubber installations by DFDS and the like!
Stena Adventurer not listed on Dublin Port movements from 28th February to 2nd March. Is she due annual overhaul then? She is still listed as sailing on Stena web site at this time
Will a photograph be taken of Superfast X on its way to Dublin as it passes Superfasts VII & VIII as they cross between Belfast and Cairnryan? It should not be too difficult to organise and it might be quite spectacular.
Quote from: ferryfan on February 24, 2015, 12:15:03 PM
Stena Adventurer not listed on Dublin Port movements from 28th February to 2nd March. Is she due annual overhaul then? She is still listed as sailing on Stena web site at this time
There are no plans for Adventurer to refit between those dates.
Quote from: Chief on February 24, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
Will a photograph be taken of Superfast X on its way to Dublin as it passes Superfasts VII & VIII as they cross between Belfast and Cairnryan? It should not be too difficult to organise and it might be quite spectacular.
Nobody seems to know yet. If it does happen, it is likely to happen mid-channel, and will very much depend on timings/Superfast X's progress towards Holyhead. Stena Superfast X's current ETA of 5:30 suggests that if she does pass her sisters mid-channel, it will be at night!
I'm led to believe Stena Nordica is expected to be in Belfast by the end of next week, meaning Stena Superfast X should be in service by then if everything goes according to plan. This would give her about a week to settle in before her official launch, and about a week for all the pre-service stuff such as taking on stores, crew familiarisation, drills, etc.
Quote from: Chief on February 24, 2015, 12:51:39 PM
Will a photograph be taken of Superfast X on its way to Dublin as it passes Superfasts VII & VIII as they cross between Belfast and Cairnryan? It should not be too difficult to organise and it might be quite spectacular.
Didn't happen, it was dark. X almost met VII though. Stena will just have to use photoshop instead if they want a group publicity pic!
What is the difference in the upper deck hight on Superfast X and Vii and VIII
Does anybody have any pictures of Stena Superfast X at Holyhead?
Looking at the AIS tracking, it appears that she didn't know where Holyhead was. Looked like she was heading for the lower corridor at first (perhaps thought she was replacing Stena Europe instead), then she did an about turn and set off in the direction of Liverpool! :-\
In reality, she was obviously killing time until Stena Nordica vacated Terminal 5, where she is now berthed.
Presumably she will be off to Dublin at some point for berthing trials.
Yeah it does look that doesn't it :). She's now done some berthing trials at Berth 5 and has now moved to the old Aluminium loading berth to lay over. Probably head over to Dublin in the next few days.
Quote from: IFPete on February 26, 2015, 12:41:56 AM
What is the difference in the upper deck hight on Superfast X and Vii and VIII
They have an extra 35cm free height in the central 4 lanes of the upper vehicle deck. See my website for details of how this was achieved ;)
http://www.niferrysite.co.uk/?p=9 (http://www.niferrysite.co.uk/?p=9)
SSF X doesn't need this raised height, as the law in Ireland doesn't allow for trailers that high!
Quote from: Davy Jones on February 26, 2015, 11:27:26 AM
Looking at the AIS tracking, it appears that she didn't know where Holyhead was. Looked like she was heading for the lower corridor at first (perhaps thought she was replacing Stena Europe instead), then she did an about turn and set off in the direction of Liverpool! :-\
In reality, she was obviously killing time until Stena Nordica vacated Terminal 5, where she is now berthed.
Presumably she will be off to Dublin at some point for berthing trials.
Stena Superfast X will do crew training/familiarisation, then MCA and joint EU drills at Holyhead over the next few days before she does anything else.
Thanks Stephen, very interesting article, I note the comment about the Double height trucks. They actually travel on the roads down here but are not allowed in port tunnel.
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/stena-lines-superfast-x-sails-8727913
Some pictures of the Superfast X in Holyhead this morning.
Quote from: IFPete on February 26, 2015, 04:54:41 PM
Thanks Stephen, very interesting article, I note the comment about the Double height trucks. They actually travel on the roads down here but are not allowed in port tunnel.
Apparently if they are over 4.65m high, not any more.
http://www.dttas.ie/press-releases/2013/maximum-vehicle-heights-change-november-1st (http://www.dttas.ie/press-releases/2013/maximum-vehicle-heights-change-november-1st)
http://www.internationaltransportforum.org/IntOrg/road/pdf/dimensions.pdf (http://www.internationaltransportforum.org/IntOrg/road/pdf/dimensions.pdf)
Do Stena not make any announcements other than safety announcement? I went to Fishguard on the Europe lasr week and they made no announcement to thank you for sailing with stena line and they made no announcements on arrival either rosslare or Fishguard. We were not told to ruturn to our vehicles in port. We were apparently to know when to go down ourselves? Irish ferries always make announcements. Are stena always like this?
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on February 28, 2015, 12:14:03 AM
Do Stena not make any announcements other than safety announcement? I went to Fishguard on the Europe lasr week and they made no announcement to thank you for sailing with stena line and they made no announcements on arrival either rosslare or Fishguard. We were not told to ruturn to our vehicles in port. We were apparently to know when to go down ourselves? Irish ferries always make announcements. Are stena always like this?
Normally lots of announcements alerting to opening of shops, newspapers available, cinema showings, dinner available, breakfast being served etc and normally plenty of instructions as to when to head to car deck etc, might have been a fault with the speaker system.
Quote from: giftgrub on February 28, 2015, 12:27:11 PM
Quote from: Oscar Wilde on February 28, 2015, 12:14:03 AM
Do Stena not make any announcements other than safety announcement? I went to Fishguard on the Europe lasr week and they made no announcement to thank you for sailing with stena line and they made no announcements on arrival either rosslare or Fishguard. We were not told to ruturn to our vehicles in port. We were apparently to know when to go down ourselves? Irish ferries always make announcements. Are stena always like this?
Normally lots of announcements alerting to opening of shops, newspapers available, cinema showings, dinner available, breakfast being served etc and normally plenty of instructions as to when to head to car deck etc, might have been a fault with the speaker system.
This. Plus up here we get the ladies coming around to try and sell us Spa treatments as well :P. Sounds very strange, as its in their interests to make the car deck and foot passenger announcements for the sake of turnaround times and health and safety!
When will Stena Superfast X come to Dublin for Trials.
Due here at 23:58 Monday night for trials appears to be hanging around until midday Tuesday returning to Holyhead to take over from Nordica who makes her final sailing on the route on the 15:10 ex Dublin
Correction seems to have been a change of plan and Superfast now listed as arriving in Dublin "for trials"on Wednesday at 23.58 departing at 11.59 on Thursday. It seems the plans are a bit liquid and nothing seems to be finalised as of yet.
Quote from: ferryfan on March 02, 2015, 04:09:19 PM
Correction seems to have been a change of plan and Superfast now listed as arriving in Dublin "for trials"on Wednesday at 23.58 departing at 11.59 on Thursday. It seems the plans are a bit liquid and nothing seems to be finalised as of yet.
(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/10993134_1082863885062188_5111574670337564867_o.jpg)
We shall see when she arrives and departs. Despite what the Dublin Port website says, I highly doubt she will sit in Dublin for 24 hours on Friday! Likewise, Stena Nordica is scheduled to arrive on the same berth less than 45 minutes before hand.....
DPC/VTS normally use an arrival time of 2 minutes to midnight when they don't have a confirmed arrival time for a vessel.
Quote from: Steven on February 26, 2015, 02:44:29 PM
Quote from: IFPete on February 26, 2015, 12:41:56 AM
What is the difference in the upper deck hight on Superfast X and Vii and VIII
They have an extra 35cm free height in the central 4 lanes of the upper vehicle deck. See my website for details of how this was achieved ;)
http://www.niferrysite.co.uk/?p=9 (http://www.niferrysite.co.uk/?p=9)
SSF X doesn't need this raised height, as the law in Ireland doesn't allow for trailers that high!
Is SSF X deck height 4.7 for deck 3 & deck 5?
Quote from: FerryMan on March 05, 2015, 05:05:54 PM
DPC/VTS normally use an arrival time of 2 minutes to midnight when they don't have a confirmed arrival time for a vessel.
Ta. She's been further delayed anyhow
Top ship in the Stena Line fleet for 2014 is the
Stena Superfast VIII
Based on rankings measured by Stena Line's internal customer satisfaction tracking system the Superfast VIII has come top for the second year running. Congratulations due to all onboard and onshore that made that happen.
In other news as also mentioned in Superfast X thread, it is on the way to Dublin this morning should be visible in Dublin bay by now.
With the Stena Superfast X going into service how long will the Nordic be about for, will she be covering all the rest of the Irish Sea refits before being send to pastures new?
Stenas Nordica and Superfast X alongside on the berths in Holyhead for the switch over. Superfast X will be officially named in Dublin later in the week.
Nordica Heading to Belfast to cover for Superfast VII & VIII refit, Superfast X now in service for Stena Line on the central corridor
Next arrival in Dublin Port is the Stena Superfast X for the first time in service on the route.
Stena Noridca is still alongside D1 at Belfast, despite having apparently being planned to enter service this morning. Word on facebook is they where doing boat drills this afternoon.
Stena Superfast VII entered they dry dock at H&W this morning.
Superfast X is of course in service, though there have been various reports of work still being carried out in passenger spaces onboard. How extensive I do not yet know, but not good from a passenger perspective!
I have travelled on the Stena Adventurer also while work was being carried out in the passenger area on her as well and it was very loud so this isn't new with Stena and isn't good passenger service. Work was being carried out also on Superfast VII & VIII when they both entered service in Belfast also but at least Stena in Belfast had the areas closed off to Passengers
From what I can gather, the work is more cosmetic than structural so it shouldn't bother passengers too much.
Stena Nordica now moved to VT4 prior to starting service between Belfast and Loch Ryan Port/Cairnryan. Stena's site says she is on-time for the 19:30 sailing, however she is still showing as being at the berth at present (20:10)
Edit: Just swinging off the berth, at 20:30.
Quote from: Andrew White on March 10, 2015, 07:02:32 PM
I have travelled on the Stena Adventurer also while work was being carried out in the passenger area on her as well and it was very loud so this isn't new with Stena and isn't good passenger service. Work was being carried out also on Superfast VII & VIII when they both entered service in Belfast also but at least Stena in Belfast had the areas closed off to Passengers
If you remember the Undercover Boss episode about Stena Line, they showed similar work happening on board the Stena Mersey. I think it really is quite appalling to do this sort of work whilst the ship is in service. It really reflects very badly on the company.
Matt
Not sure what extent the work was, but with the official launch in Dublin today and the boss himself on board, would hope they were finished in time.
http://news.stenaline.co.uk/pressreleases/stena-line-launches-new-superfast-ferry-at-dublin-port-1129122
Have to say a big thank you to the Stena Nordica, she has been great on the Dublin-Holyhead route over the last few years, she maybe be small compared to Superfast X but a great work horse and will be missed.
I'll second that!
I wondered what Stena were doing at first, sending us that old rust bucket, the Stena Seatrader. Obviously now, that was just a test exercise to see if the extra crossing would run. As soon as they replaced her with the Nordica everything just worked. It was even interesting to note that during bad weather, although she didn't always run, when she did, she appeared to berth easier than the Adventurer. Whoever gets her on their route will be getting a good ship. Farewell and all the best!
Quote from: Davy Jones on March 12, 2015, 09:50:05 AM
I'll second that!
I wondered what Stena were doing at first, sending us that old rust bucket, the Stena Seatrader. Obviously now, that was just a test exercise to see if the extra crossing would run. As soon as they replaced her with the Nordica everything just worked. It was even interesting to note that during bad weather, although she didn't always run, when she did, she appeared to berth easier than the Adventurer. Whoever gets her on their route will be getting a good ship. Farewell and all the best!
Stena Nordica is off to DFDS for their Dover Calais service once refit cover is complete now managed by Stena RoRo, just wonder will it be back in Dublin to cover for the Adventurer before it goes all Seaways.
Quote from: Matt73 on March 11, 2015, 06:35:04 PM
Quote from: Andrew White on March 10, 2015, 07:02:32 PM
I have travelled on the Stena Adventurer also while work was being carried out in the passenger area on her as well and it was very loud so this isn't new with Stena and isn't good passenger service. Work was being carried out also on Superfast VII & VIII when they both entered service in Belfast also but at least Stena in Belfast had the areas closed off to Passengers
If you remember the Undercover Boss episode about Stena Line, they showed similar work happening on board the Stena Mersey. I think it really is quite appalling to do this sort of work whilst the ship is in service. It really reflects very badly on the company.
Matt
The extent of the work is nowhere near as severe as was onboard Mersey. I have spoken to several people who have been onboard, all have said it was barely noticeable and didn't affect the experience. From photographs I have seen, it would appear much of this 'work' was taking plastic covering off seating, etc. certainly not the building and drilling that was going on onboard Mersey! However, I agree that it is less than ideal.
Moving on. Internal and external pics of Stena Superfast X, courtesy of Scott Mackey. Pics are of course copyright Scott Mackey and shouldn't be used without credit (and permission if publishing elsewhere!)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157650849385067/
Great Pics from Scot Mackey. Taking a trip on her tomorrow looks good a bit different to the norm.
Quote from: ferryfan on March 14, 2015, 11:48:35 PM
Great Pics from Scot Mackey. Taking a trip on her tomorrow looks good a bit different to the norm.
Don't forget to let us know what you think!
Quote from: Steven on March 15, 2015, 04:52:14 PM
Quote from: ferryfan on March 14, 2015, 11:48:35 PM
Great Pics from Scot Mackey. Taking a trip on her tomorrow looks good a bit different to the norm.
Don't forget to let us know what you think!
If you have a cabin, or if you get into the hallways, please take some pictures! Im curious to see whats changed.
Great pics by Scott by the way, she's looking great inside
A wee look inside and outside of Stena Superfast VII, while in dry dock yesterday. Stena Plus and the Met Bar have been reupholstered and as part of the external painting 'making good time' has been removed from her hull. All pics by Scott Mackey.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157628080488909/
Just returned from a trip went over on Superfast X Monday morning at 2.15. First thing I noticed was the decor bright orange furniture and wood panelling along the very narrow corridors to the left and right of the staircases which lead to the Metropolitan Grill, Shop and Guest Services on Deck 7 and to the bar and coffee shop and cinemas (which essentially are one and the same) on deck 8. Almost the first thing I came across after boarding was an argument between several truck drivers and the guest services staff about the lack of cabins for drivers, (it was a very quiet crossing). There seemed to be a lack of seating areas either in the plus the bar or the grill with nothing else available, some areas were closed off and building materials were visible in others. Overall I was unimpressed with the ship and in fact the decor and narrow corridors reminded me of the MV Innisfallen and as with her predecessor the sailing times are not convenient for most people. After the crossing the first thing I spotted in Holyhead was the sad sight of the HSS lying in complete darkness at her berth, what a wast!
So I think my next trips will be back on the Swift.
For those on facebook, Stena Line have uploaded some pics of SSF VII in dry dock to the Stena Line UK&IE page
QuoteEver wondered how we keep our ships in tip top condition?
Since November 2014 we've been refitting our ships on the Belfast - Cairnryan & Belfast - Liverpool routes and we're nearly done!
Check out these great pics of the Stena Superfast VII getting it's final touches in preparation for leaving dry dock today!
Excitingly we can announce some of the changes we've made onboard to the Stena Superfast VII. There's been a refurbishment of all seats in the Met Bar and Stena Plus, general refurbishment of all cabins on deck 10 plus new dog kennels for pet owners on deck 7.
If you've got any questions just give us a shout!
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1036029556426976.1073741847.148421815187759&type=1
Quote from: ferryfan on March 20, 2015, 12:24:38 PM
Just returned from a trip went over on Superfast X Monday morning at 2.15. First thing I noticed was the decor bright orange furniture and wood panelling along the very narrow corridors to the left and right of the staircases which lead to the Metropolitan Grill, Shop and Guest Services on Deck 7 and to the bar and coffee shop and cinemas (which essentially are one and the same) on deck 8. Almost the first thing I came across after boarding was an argument between several truck drivers and the guest services staff about the lack of cabins for drivers, (it was a very quiet crossing). There seemed to be a lack of seating areas either in the plus the bar or the grill with nothing else available, some areas were closed off and building materials were visible in others. Overall I was unimpressed with the ship and in fact the decor and narrow corridors reminded me of the MV Innisfallen and as with her predecessor the sailing times are not convenient for most people. After the crossing the first thing I spotted in Holyhead was the sad sight of the HSS lying in complete darkness at her berth, what a wast!
So I think my next trips will be back on the Swift.
The driver cabin thing is something I have seen arise elsewhere. I had heard (unconfirmed) talk that many of the cabins where not yet complete. I see you where on an early morning crossing. I wonder how many of the areas where closed off due to the crossing time rather than the fact they where being worked on? Common practice on most crossings due to the usually low passenger numbers. They really do need to get this work finished ASAP though, so she can show her true potential! Sorry to hear you are unimpressed with her though - most of the other reports I have heard have been overwhelmingly positive.
Hi Steven,
Writing from Stena Plus on Superfast VIII
I am empressed with the ships vehicle space and the high quality of passenger accommodation
Lets see what happens when Eomann Rothwell pulls the investment trigger at Irish Ferries.
If Greece does not do a deal with EC there will be lots of good Greek Ferries becoming available very cheap in the coming months.
I made a crossing on Superfast X on the 02.15 sailing on Friday morning. I boarded as a foot passenger. There was about 20 other foot passengers, a small number of cars but a reasonable amount of freight. First impression on entering the passenger areas in it very much a work in progress in some areas with work being carried out during the crossing. I found most of the lounge and retail areas small compared to the Stena Europe and Stena Adventurer.
On this crossing the Bar/Coffee shop was closed much to the dismay of a group of Liverpool fans who argued with the restaurant staff as the were unable to purchase draught beer. There was only a small selection of bottled beers available.
The main shop only opened for the final 45 minutes of the crossing. The nordic Spa area seems to be in use as a store at the moment. I was piled high with tables, chairs and building materal on this crossing.
After all the hype from Stena Line I must admit that I was unimpressed with the ship.
Glad to see someone agrees with me regarding Superfast X. Today's sailings are either cancelled or delayed for technical reasons?
Do any forum members remember the sailing times from Dun Laoghaire in the early 1990's when Hibernia and Cambria were on the route?
My recollection is that the two ships sailed within a couple of hours of each other one at around 9.00 and the other at 11.00 am and pm. The morning times certainly suited me much better than the current schedule.
I think unfortunately due to schedules etc , Stena rushed the superfast into service before she was fully ready ,hence the problems being encountered.. Her firs big test will be later next week , when the15.00 hrs from dublin is going to be full to the rafters, what she will be like to travel on ,with 1,200 passangers on board ,I don't know ,hopefully she has been re designed with a full load of passangers in mind. One thing I know for sure is that during the summer , the 15.00 hrs sailing out of dublin is going to be jammed to the rafters very often, when you look at the last few seasons , the early afternoon sailings to holyhead are very popular , and even on quiet days in the summer the HSS and nordica carried 900+ passangers between them on the afternoon sailings ,and during the busy days the Hss had up to 1,400 on board + nordicas 400 giving 1,800 on the busy afternoon sailing days , so going on that there will now be a lot less capacity on the afternoon stena sailing to holyhead than there was ,so irish ferries are going to pick up a fair surplus of old stena passangers from the afternoon run, that is unless a lot transfer to the early adventurer departure, but the summer holiday travellers are usually quiet set in their ways and times . A interesting summer ahead for sure.
The Superfast X certainly looks a lovely ship, and is a big upgrade from the Nordica. But replacing a well designed revolutionary fast ferry with a slower, smaller conventional ferry is hardly an advancement for the travelling public whatever way it's looked at. The name 'Superfast' is also very confusing for the general public, the name gives certain expectations to Joe soap!
The Stena Germanica's conversion to methanol has been completed and it is ready to return to service with a green wave on the hull and forward passenger block.
http://www.portalmorski.pl/statki/technika-innowacje/40342-przebudowana-na-zasilanie-metanolem-stena-germanica-opuscila-gdanska-stocznie-remontowa
Superfast VIII returns to service tomorrow afternoon following a quick refit and repaint, meaning the end of the Stena Nordica's time on the Irish Sea for Stena Line for at least the next 18 months as it begins a new life on Dover - Calais for DFDS in April.
Some interesting images of the Stena Germanica's methanol conversion on the link below, the ship also got a new bulbous bow when in drydock.
https://twitter.com/WestlingPer/media
Former Irish Sea ro-pax Stena Feronia (ex Dublin Seaways, Dublin Viking, Mersey Viking) has been renamed Strait Feronia and has
adopted the New Zealand flag. She is currently in dry dock at Ladskrona being prepared for a new life in the Southern Hemisphere operating for New Zealand company Strait Shipping under their Blue Bridge brand. Stena Feronia was of course one of the two lead vessels of the Visentini ro-pax series.
In other news, Stena Nordica has had her stern ramp removed and some additional steel work added in Dunkerque. Some pictures have been published on French Facebook pages.
Quote from: IFPete on March 20, 2015, 05:18:02 PM
Lets see what happens when Eomann Rothwell pulls the investment trigger at Irish Ferries.
If Greece does not do a deal with EC there will be lots of good Greek Ferries becoming available very cheap in the coming months.
Don't be surprised if Stena do a little bit of shopping/shuffling either ;)
Quote from: ferryfan on March 23, 2015, 03:14:54 PM
Do any forum members remember the sailing times from Dun Laoghaire in the early 1990's when Hibernia and Cambria were on the route?
My recollection is that the two ships sailed within a couple of hours of each other one at around 9.00 and the other at 11.00 am and pm. The morning times certainly suited me much better than the current schedule.
Yes, but that was in the days when freight wasn't the main payer of the bills. The current sailing times suit freight better. Don't forget, any of the current vessels can carry more freight on their own than Hibernia and Cambria put together!
I hear that Nordica is to be renamed Malo Seaways.
Some images of the Stena Nordica in the French Shipyard at the page on this link:
http://www.doverferryphotosforums.co.uk/mv-stena-nordica-past-present/
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/photos/picture/ships/1919959/9215505/shipid:194642
Also official image of the Methanol powered Stena Germanica
Photo of ex Stena Nordica on floating dock getting some type of bumper arrangement welded aboce and below stern doors
http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.ie/
Good find nice images
That's for Docking in Dover and Calais, no bow or stern ramps on the ferries, all shoreside for faster operation, they will also be fitting a cow catcher on the bow, usually hideous looking on ferries not designed for route.
Stena RoRo's Stena Alegra has finally moved off the mooring in Singapore where it has been for months and looks to be about to commence a major refit before entering service for Interislander on five year charter as a replacement for the Arahura.
http://www.kiwirail.co.nz/uploads/Publications/Stena%20Alegra%20backgrounder.pdf
Hopefully it will have more luck than when providing cover for the Aratere last year.
They are months behind from the original plan, but better late than never.
Artists impression of it in Interislander branding on the Stena RoRo site
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Stena-Alegra.aspx
Malo Seaways ex Stena Nordica due to enter srevice for DFDS on the 15th April
http://www.lemarin.fr/secteurs-activites/shipping/21570-dfds-le-stena-nordica-devient-le-malo-seaways
Superfast X yet more "technical difficulties" scheduled to move from berth 51 to ocean pier 37 this afternoons sailing and return leg from Holyhead at 8.10 cancelled. There were delays over the holiday weekend which left a lot of disgruntled passengers who complained more about the poor customer service than the delays. They really need to sort this out pretty quick as I sense that customers are already heading to Irish Ferries in large numbers (Swift numbers supposedly way up on Easter last year).
Technical problems can be put down to northern marine ship management (they are just winging it as far as ferrys are concerned).Customer service is a stena line problem.
I travelled on Both Superfast VIII and Superfast VII the weekend of the Ireland Scotland match.
As you can image the services were very full and the staff did there best to cope,
coming back on Sunday evening from Cairnryan we loaded on the bottom deck of Superfast VII which had just come out of a compressed drydock,
The car deck was like a building site with hazardous chemicals and oil drums scattered around the car deck and not locked away in a secure fireproof area as you would normally expect.
There was no fireproof paint left on the car deck floor and there appeared that the car decks had not received any attention during the refit at H&W.
This ferry was a fire hazard and the word shipshape appears to be missing from the Stena vocabularly.
In all my years travelling with many ferry operators around the world i have never seen anything as bad.
This falls down because the Northern Marine experiment has badly failed.
No suitable maintenance plan and no suitable tonnage to allow proper planned maintenance to be carried out.
I also noticed the ships forktruck powered by LPG which i felt was inapproapriate in a hazardous area.
The problems with Superfast X are a simpton of this too.
Just a few bits and bobs, so chucking them all into one post.
Stena Feronia has been renamed Strait Feronia (New Zealand flag) and is currently at Landskrona being prepared for her new life on the Cook Strait.
As above, Stena Nordica has been renamed Malo Seaways. To the surprise of some people (myself included) she is being repainted with a blue DFDS hull. Her cow catcher is in place on the bow and the rear ramps have been removed.
Stena Superfast X had a coming together with the berth at Holyhead last night. She made it across to Dublin but has been cancelled today.
Finally, reports from Italy indicate that Trinacria and Partenope are to be returned to Stena RoRo early next week. Trinacria has a summer charter lined up with Balearia and is to be renamed Sicilia. There has been a major reorganisation at TTT lines (which is outside the scope of this thread), but in brief they have formed a new company in partnership with Cartour/Caronte and Tourist and taken Cartour Gamma and either Sorento or Catania on charter from Grimaldi as their tonnage. As a result, some in the Italian press have speculated/indicated that Epsilon could be recalled if Cartour resolve their dispute with the Messina authorities to return their own route to a 2 ship operation - personally I don't see it (and I'm sure ICG wouldn't be too amused either!).
Quote from: IFPete on April 10, 2015, 08:06:43 PM
I travelled on Both Superfast VIII and Superfast VII the weekend of the Ireland Scotland match.
As you can image the services were very full and the staff did there best to cope,
coming back on Sunday evening from Cairnryan we loaded on the bottom deck of Superfast VII which had just come out of a compressed drydock,
The car deck was like a building site with hazardous chemicals and oil drums scattered around the car deck and not locked away in a secure fireproof area as you would normally expect.
There was no fireproof paint left on the car deck floor and there appeared that the car decks had not received any attention during the refit at H&W.
This ferry was a fire hazard and the word shipshape appears to be missing from the Stena vocabularly.
In all my years travelling with many ferry operators around the world i have never seen anything as bad.
This falls down because the Northern Marine experiment has badly failed.
No suitable maintenance plan and no suitable tonnage to allow proper planned maintenance to be carried out.
I also noticed the ships forktruck powered by LPG which i felt was inapproapriate in a hazardous area.
The problems with Superfast X are a simpton of this too.
Oh dear. The old saying "don't spoil the ship for for a ha'porth of tar" springs to mind here. I shall be travelling on the Lagan in the summer and then the Hollandica and Britannica. I do hope that this lapse in standards has not become endemic, or I shall have a few things to say to customer services! There simply is no excuse for it and it does not take very long for a company's reputation to be ruined by this sort of sloppy penny pinching.
Matt
So they have built in the nonsense we have on the railways with Network Rail responsble for tracks and signals and the operators the rest. What an utter nonsense! How on earth is this managed?
Matt
Quote from: IFPete on April 10, 2015, 08:06:43 PM
I travelled on Both Superfast VIII and Superfast VII the weekend of the Ireland Scotland match.
As you can image the services were very full and the staff did there best to cope,
coming back on Sunday evening from Cairnryan we loaded on the bottom deck of Superfast VII which had just come out of a compressed drydock,
The car deck was like a building site with hazardous chemicals and oil drums scattered around the car deck and not locked away in a secure fireproof area as you would normally expect.
There was no fireproof paint left on the car deck floor and there appeared that the car decks had not received any attention during the refit at H&W.
This ferry was a fire hazard and the word shipshape appears to be missing from the Stena vocabularly.
In all my years travelling with many ferry operators around the world i have never seen anything as bad.
This falls down because the Northern Marine experiment has badly failed.
No suitable maintenance plan and no suitable tonnage to allow proper planned maintenance to be carried out.
I also noticed the ships forktruck powered by LPG which i felt was inapproapriate in a hazardous area.
The problems with Superfast X are a simpton of this too.
Absolutely everything you have mentioned there is a failing of the ship board management, and nothing to do with Northern Marine. The loading officer should have stopped the operation to make the decks safe if it was in such a state. Blaming someone who isn't on the ship is just ridiculous.
From what i've read, it is no experiment either. Seems like it is a measure that is here to stay and the sooner Stena Line realize it, the better for all of us passengers. I'm tired listening to them moan about Northern Marine. This whole "anti-NMM" thing is getting old.
The bottom line is that if the ships on board management think it is a fire hazard they have a responsibility to stop the boat and inform whomever is responsible for it ashore and stop everything until it is made safe.
Quote from: Steven on April 10, 2015, 10:19:06 PM
Just a few bits and bobs, so chucking them all into one post.
Stena Feronia has been renamed Strait Feronia (New Zealand flag) and is currently at Landskrona being prepared for her new life on the Cook Strait.
As above, Stena Nordica has been renamed Malo Seaways. To the surprise of some people (myself included) she is being repainted with a blue DFDS hull. Her cow catcher is in place on the bow and the rear ramps have been removed.
from photos taken yesterday it would appear that the starboard side of the hull is now totally DFDS blue. It looks like they have finished welding the ledges on to the stern - I assume this is for the fingers of the berth(s) in Dover to rest on. The St arboard side of the funnel is now blue as well, and scaffolding has been erected to the stern side already.. It has been said she will be in Dover in the 15th - if so there is much painting to be done in that short space of time!
QuoteWith increasingly mixed reaction on Dun Laoghaire Harbour's plans for a proposed new €18m cruise berth facility, what will happen to the existing albeit redundant Stena HSS fast-ferry linkspan berth, writes Jehan Ashmore.
Afloat.ie has inquired with Stena Line to confirm the status of the unique ro-ro port infrastructure on St. Michaels Wharf. The ro-ro linkspan berth was exclusively designed to serve the High Speed Seaservice (HSS) car-carrying and freight craft catamaran, Stena Explorer. She made her debut on the Dun Laoghaire-Holyhead route in April 1996.
It is now almost seven months ago since the route to Holyhead closed with the final sailing departing Dun Laoghaire Harbour on 9 September. Stena say as part of their agreement with Dun Laoghaire Harbour Company, they will have to remove the linkspan and that they are making plans to do so with the assistance of Stena Metall and Stena Teknik.
The end of the Ireland-Wales route, came as no surprise as there was widespread speculation in recent years over the service's ability to be viable. It was in February when Stena announced the permanent closure of the route and that there would be no service in 2015.
This led to Stena pulling out of Dun Laoghaire Harbour and concentrate instead out of neighbouring Dublin Port on the existing route to Holyhead and launch of Stena Superfast X alongside Stena Adventurer.
When the HSS Stena Explorer entered service almost two decades ago, the Dun Laoghaire linkspan was custom built for the fast-ferry. Incidently, she was the first HSS launched and would become the last of the trio of HSS 1500 series to remain serving Stena Line.
When berthing at the linkspan, the HSS Stena Explorer did not require mooring ropes alongside St. Michaels Wharf, but instead satellite technology guided the 19,638 tonnes fast-ferry to the linkspan. Shore-based arms would clamp at the craft-stern upon arrival and released for the departing sailing on the 52-nautical mile crossing to Anglesey.
An Irish Sea serving sister, HSS Stena Voyager which served Belfast-Stranrear (since closed) had on occasions appeared on the central corridor route to cover for 'Explorer's dry-docking. As for the third sister, HSS Stena Discovery, she served on the southern North Sea on the Harwich-Hook van Holland route.
Currently, a public consultation process on the Dun Laoghaire Harbour Company's cruise-berth proposal is underway with an expiry date for submissions / observations next Monday 13 April (for further details click HERE).
The consultation is in advance of an expected planning application by DLHC on behalf of the Dun Laoghaire Cruise Stakeholder Group to An Board Pleanala.
If the plan goes ahead the cruise facility would incorporate use of the former Stena ferry terminal on St. Michaels Wharf which was built in the 60's and originally featured a pair of ro-ro ferry berths.
The former Stena terminal as previously reported would also be transformed as the ferry vehicle marshalling area would be turned into coach, taxi and mini-bus parking use.
In addition the project would involve constructing a new boardwalk overlooking the adjoining 820-boat marina.
Source: http://afloat.ie/port-news/ferry-news/item/28289-hss-ferry-linkspan-to-be-removed-with-backdrop-of-cruise-berth-plans
Latest photo
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=638807162916005&set=a.128889330574460.24521.100003601804742&type=1
Another recent image of Malo Seaways here
https://www.facebook.com/apmmlehavre?fref=photo
Am I mistaken or has the Stena Adventurer missed its afternoon sailing from Holyhead, The 2040 departure from Dublin is marked as cancelled. Anyone know why?
Adventurer is still in Holyhead she has been on Ulysses berth and is now back on her own to let Ulysses berth. Nobody in Stena Line office at weekend to update website properly. Hope passengers got accommodated on Ulysses and they are not going to stuff them all onto the 02.30 Superfast X sailing (that ship is a disaster).
Quote from: Normandy on April 18, 2015, 07:40:43 PM
Am I mistaken or has the Stena Adventurer missed its afternoon sailing from Holyhead, The 2040 departure from Dublin is marked as cancelled. Anyone know why?
Ferry Check had it as a planned in water survey, but has now been removed.
Isn't she still due a dry-docking around now?
Visually due a repainting at the very least, certificate wise can probably be delayed for awhile, they need to get another ship to cover, so unlikely to get done this year.
Malo Seaways in Dover for DFDS images on link below
http://www.doverferryphotosforums.co.uk/mv-malo-seaways-past-and-present/
The former Stena Feronia now Strait Feronia is on its way down under, currently off the coast of Portugal heading for Las Palmas. Images on the following link, have to scroll down the page.
https://www.facebook.com/bluebridgeferry
Malo Seaways back in Dunkirk Shipyard for further modification to fit the berths in Calais and Dover, the ugly cow catcher on the bow nicely hidden by the blue paint.
Quote from: ferryfan on April 10, 2015, 03:02:31 PM
Superfast X yet more "technical difficulties" scheduled to move from berth 51 to ocean pier 37 this afternoons sailing and return leg from Holyhead at 8.10 cancelled. There were delays over the holiday weekend which left a lot of disgruntled passengers who complained more about the poor customer service than the delays. They really need to sort this out pretty quick as I sense that customers are already heading to Irish Ferries in large numbers (Swift numbers supposedly way up on Easter last year).
Good to see Irish ferries swift service getting extra passengers
Not everyone wants to be on the slow boat to china Superslow X
Quote from: MerseyMan on April 12, 2015, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: IFPete on April 10, 2015, 08:06:43 PM
I travelled on Both Superfast VIII and Superfast VII the weekend of the Ireland Scotland match.
As you can image the services were very full and the staff did there best to cope,
coming back on Sunday evening from Cairnryan we loaded on the bottom deck of Superfast VII which had just come out of a compressed drydock,
The car deck was like a building site with hazardous chemicals and oil drums scattered around the car deck and not locked away in a secure fireproof area as you would normally expect.
There was no fireproof paint left on the car deck floor and there appeared that the car decks had not received any attention during the refit at H&W.
This ferry was a fire hazard and the word shipshape appears to be missing from the Stena vocabularly.
In all my years travelling with many ferry operators around the world i have never seen anything as bad.
This falls down because the Northern Marine experiment has badly failed.
No suitable maintenance plan and no suitable tonnage to allow proper planned maintenance to be carried out.
I also noticed the ships forktruck powered by LPG which i felt was inapproapriate in a hazardous area.
The problems with Superfast X are a simpton of this too.
Absolutely everything you have mentioned there is a failing of the ship board management, and nothing to do with Northern Marine. The loading officer should have stopped the operation to make the decks safe if it was in such a state. Blaming someone who isn't on the ship is just ridiculous.
From what i've read, it is no experiment either. Seems like it is a measure that is here to stay and the sooner Stena Line realize it, the better for all of us passengers. I'm tired listening to them moan about Northern Marine. This whole "anti-NMM" thing is getting old.
The bottom line is that if the ships on board management think it is a fire hazard they have a responsibility to stop the boat and inform whomever is responsible for it ashore and stop everything until it is made safe.
northern marine ship management sounds to be at the heart of all the problems
will be more interested in lining their pockets with as much money as possible and 2 fingers to passengers
so your statement is wrong
As Northern Marine are a Stena company it's not a case of lining pockets, as they are paying themselves for the service provided.
http://www.nmm-stena.com/Pages/default.aspx
Does not excuse any of the reported issues though, should not have happened.
April is the time to sort all these issues out before the May Bank Holiday weekends.
I wouldn't be too hard on Superfast X. I travelled on her recently, and found her not bad. I talked to one of the engineers and he said there is plenty of 'Seafrance' documents and signage still floating about. In all fairness I found her a big improvement on the Nordica. The ship was a lot cleaner, and I personally thought the conversion was a good job all in all. Just a quick note - Wifi was down, apparently there were problems of some sort.
Crossing was very quiet, and most of the areas were closed off.
This may come as a shock to some, but on my return journey with P&O on the European Endeavour, there was more people, and cars on board, than on the Superfast sailing? For the record the tickets were around the same price, and the feeling I got was P&O are looking to expand the passenger section of their Irish Sea operations. Norbay has received the new P&O livery, and house flag.
Competition seems to be getting very interesting, and P&O's departure and arrival times, are proving attractive, with both freight and passengers.
To be honest, I agree with those of the opinion pensioning off the HSS without a proper replacement is a mistake. On the passenger side capacity isn't too bad (if all areas were open), but freight capacity seems too low, certainly no improvement there.
No dedicated express sailing will probably hurt Stena. A vessel like the P&O Express might not be a bad thing.
But, in terms of real change and a real improvement, and that 'wow' factor this 'new ship' certainly doesn't come anywhere close to that of P&O's Spirit of Britain, or Stena Britannica. Superfast X doesn't feel like something you would bother paying more for. The ship is grand enough, but doesn't have the 'wow' factor.
Was my experience dramatically different to P&O? Not really! Crew performance was about on the same level. But terminal facilities do need to be improved in Liverpool. The port was looking tired, loadings were good in terms of freight, but cars also occupied much of the upper deck. One thing in Stena's favour is being RoRo. Lorry drivers seem to find reversing on P&O a pain in the a***, and in conversation they all reckoned P&O needed to invest in bigger, modern RoRo tonnage, and get Liverpool port modernised with twin level RoRo ramps.
The Liverpool route does appear in the dark ages, and hence Stena should take advantage of this, and grow the freight on the Holyhead route.
Quote from: TC on April 22, 2015, 02:13:11 PM
I wouldn't be too hard on Superfast X. I travelled on her recently, and found her not bad. I talked to one of the engineers and he said there is plenty of 'Seafrance' documents and signage still floating about. In all fairness I found her a big improvement on the Nordica. The ship was a lot cleaner, and I personally thought the conversion was a good job all in all. Just a quick note - Wifi was down, apparently there were problems of some sort.
Crossing was very quiet, and most of the areas were closed off.
This may come as a shock to some, but on my return journey with P&O on the European Endeavour, there was more people, and cars on board, than on the Superfast sailing? For the record the tickets were around the same price, and the feeling I got was P&O are looking to expand the passenger section of their Irish Sea operations. Norbay has received the new P&O livery, and house flag.
Competition seems to be getting very interesting, and P&O's departure and arrival times, are proving attractive, with both freight and passengers.
To be honest, I agree with those of the opinion pensioning off the HSS without a proper replacement is a mistake. On the passenger side capacity isn't too bad (if all areas were open), but freight capacity seems too low, certainly no improvement there.
No dedicated express sailing will probably hurt Stena. A vessel like the P&O Express might not be a bad thing.
But, in terms of real change and a real improvement, and that 'wow' factor this 'new ship' certainly doesn't come anywhere close to that of P&O's Spirit of Britain, or Stena Britannica. Superfast X doesn't feel like something you would bother paying more for. The ship is grand enough, but doesn't have the 'wow' factor.
Was my experience dramatically different to P&O? Not really! Crew performance was about on the same level. But terminal facilities do need to be improved in Liverpool. The port was looking tired, loadings were good in terms of freight, but cars also occupied much of the upper deck. One thing in Stena's favour is being RoRo. Lorry drivers seem to find reversing on P&O a pain in the a***, and in conversation they all reckoned P&O needed to invest in bigger, modern RoRo tonnage, and get Liverpool port modernised with twin level RoRo ramps.
The Liverpool route does appear in the dark ages, and hence Stena should take advantage of this, and grow the freight on the Holyhead route.
Good post, I agree with you about Superfast X, I have been on a few times now and had no problems, she is bigger than Nordica but she is nothing special.
The Stena Scanrail is being replaced on the Gothenburg - Fredrickshaven route by the ASK (former Scandlines vessel).
http://www.sjofartstidningen.se/stena-scanrail-byts-ut/
The former Stena Feronia on its way down under, just off the coast of the Dominican Republic
http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/photos/of/ships/shipid:123382/ship_name:STENA%20FERONIA/order:date_uploaded/#forward
and video of its refurb before leaving for New Zealand
https://youtu.be/bpysSk9-BSg
Anyone know what is going on with the Stena Alegra these days? AIS shows her berthed or laid up in Malaysia.
Good question, I thought she was staying with Interislander?
Quote from: TC on May 09, 2015, 01:18:08 PM
Anyone know what is going on with the Stena Alegra these days? AIS shows her berthed or laid up in Malaysia.
Currently in drydock in Singapore being refitted/rebuilt for service with Interislander in New Zealand.
Thats what I thought, long term too I believe?
Five year charter agreed between Stena RoRo and Interislander
http://www.kiwirail.co.nz/uploads/Publications/Stena%20Alegra%20backgrounder.pdf
Also the Trinacria and Partenope were handed back to Stena Ro Ro a few weeks ago by TTT Lines but have been rechartered to Baleria
Trinacria now Sicilia, Partenope now Napoles
some images on link below with TTT lines branding visible in the marble flooring
https://www.balearia.com/wps/portal/balearia/abordo/viajandoEnBarco/flotaAcomodacion/!ut/p/a1/04_Sj9CPykssy0xPLMnMz0vMAfGjzOLNLNzNDI2cDbz9Pc2NDBxNvILMLf0MDd2DjYAKIvEo8DckVX9goBlQgYuRt4mZm7GBkSll-g1MCOkP149CU4JpAliBAQ7gaIBhAmYY4LUC6Mng1Dx9L0JOLcgNDY0wyPTUdXVUBABrAWWA/?1dmy&page=balearia.prepara.enbarco.flota.detallebuque&urile=wcm%3apath%3a%2Fbalearia_es%2Fabordo%2Fviajandobarco%2Fflota%2Fsicilia%2F6596761c-3322-49fb-a88d-fdc43d03de7b
TTT Lines now seem to be in a joint venture with Caronte and Tourist as they have no vessels listed on their website
http://tttlines.info/eng/
Quote from: giftgrub on May 10, 2015, 10:44:45 PM
TTT Lines now seem to be in a joint venture with Caronte and Tourist as they have no vessels listed on their website
http://tttlines.info/eng/
This is to do with a dispute with the port in Messina. Basically, C&T have gone in to partnership with Tomasso (TTT) and reduced their own route to a single ship. They have however stated that should they agree suitable terms with Messina, they will return their own route to two ships whilst also continuing the partnership. It has been suggested in some parts of the Italian press that the second ship would be Epsilon, however I suggest this could just be people putting 2 and 2 together and getting 9!
http://www.stenaroro.com/activities/Pages/Annual-Report-2014.aspx
Stena Lines annual review now available from above link
Also Stena RoRo are about to sell the Blue Puttes and Highlander to Marine Atlantic
http://marineatlanticjourney.ca/2015/05/26/new-federal-funding-commitment-will-further-strengthen-marine-atlantics-service/
Quote from: giftgrub on June 01, 2015, 08:48:13 PM
http://www.stenaroro.com/activities/Pages/Annual-Report-2014.aspx
Stena Lines annual review now available from above link
Also Stena RoRo are about to sell the Blue Puttes and Highlander to Marine Atlantic
http://marineatlanticjourney.ca/2015/05/26/new-federal-funding-commitment-will-further-strengthen-marine-atlantics-service/
Cheers GG. That costly conversion has paid off for both parties then
The former Stena Feronia has arrived down under ready to start service as Strait Feronia - purchased from Stena RoRo for 23 million euro
From the Stena Annual report
The Highlanders and Blue Puttes have been sold for €69 million euro each to Marine Atlantic, transfer takes place at the end of 2015 and start of 2016 for each vessel
The Snav Adriatico former Stena Baltica (former KB on Rosslare - Fishguard) still appears on the books as SNAV have a hire to purchase agreement.
Update on the former Stena Alegra's rebuild here
https://www.interislander.co.nz/Our-Ships-And-Services/Kaiarahi/Singapore-Dry-Dock-Updates.aspx
HSS Stena Carisma has been moved from its berth in Gothenburg to make way for the Volvo Ocean Race's arrival next week. Will it return ?
Stena Alegra is looking very smart. To be honest its a pity she's down under. I think she would have looked very well somewhere on the Irish Sea. Rosslare - Cherbourg would have been perfect, and this new refit does her justice. Her sister, European Endeavour, has proved popular on Dublin - Liverpool. Shame Stena didn't replace the Horizon with her! To be honest I wouldn't be surprised to see Stena Nordica / Malo Seaways, on the Cherbourg run. However, Stena Nordica could be a good replacement for the aging Stena Nautica.
Quote from: TC on June 19, 2015, 10:03:51 PM
Stena Alegra is looking very smart. To be honest its a pity she's down under. I think she would have looked very well somewhere on the Irish Sea. Rosslare - Cherbourg would have been perfect, and this new refit does her justice. Her sister, European Endeavour, has proved popular on Dublin - Liverpool. Shame Stena didn't replace the Horizon with her! To be honest I wouldn't be surprised to see Stena Nordica / Malo Seaways, on the Cherbourg run. However, Stena Nordica could be a good replacement for the aging Stena Nautica.
Why would Stena want to replace Horizon with a smaller, older, and less efficient ship with half as many berths? Until her rebuild she only had flume stabilisers as well - not very suitable for the crossing to France! I don't see Horizon moving on anytime soon, unless her charter rate becomes unfavourable or something changes in the market making her unsuitable.
Will Stena give the Horizon a refurbishment like the Lagan and Mersey?
Quote from: mrwtho07 on June 21, 2015, 04:21:37 PM
Will Stena give the Horizon a refurbishment like the Lagan and Mersey?
That depends really on whether they are allowed to under the terms of the charter agreement, and indeed if they decide to purchase the vessel outright (as they did with Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey). There has been some refurbishment already, though this has mainly been branding.
Edit: I have checked, and the terms of the charter agreement prevent any further refurbishment.
Thanks Steven. It will be interesting to see whether Stena do indeed decide to buy the vessel.
Stena Alegra looks first class though from the pictures, and Stena RoRo do own the vessel, hence the major refurbishment, and if she was on the Cherbourg run (I was referring to her 'after' rebuild), I think she would have proved popular with the public.
I'm sure a Spanish or Polish yard could have done what was done in Singapore, and Stena would have had themselves their own ship, rather than a chartered one. That as you indicate Steven has a lot of restrictions in terms of branding ect. To be honest she's a bit like the 'odd' one in the fleet, not having the same level of interior refurbishment, now for two seasons under Stena. To be honest I don't think it reflects well from a marketing and 'experience' perspective. I'm not sure how long the charter is for, but I wouldn't be surprised if she was replaced with a fully refurbished vessel, or bought out right by Stena and a full refurbishment undertaken.
At the moment she doesn't look particularly comfortable, like most Visentini vessels (with standard interior).Those little very hard chairs, hard tiled floors, and generally very utilitarian interiors, are quite nasty when you compare them to lets say the Stena Europe.
Quote from: TC on June 22, 2015, 12:56:50 PM
Stena Alegra looks first class though from the pictures, and Stena RoRo do own the vessel, hence the major refurbishment, and if she was on the Cherbourg run (I was referring to her 'after' rebuild), I think she would have proved popular with the public.
I'm sure a Spanish or Polish yard could have done what was done in Singapore, and Stena would have had themselves their own ship, rather than a chartered one. That as you indicate Steven has a lot of restrictions in terms of branding ect. To be honest she's a bit like the 'odd' one in the fleet, not having the same level of interior refurbishment, now for two seasons under Stena. To be honest I don't think it reflects well from a marketing and 'experience' perspective. I'm not sure how long the charter is for, but I wouldn't be surprised if she was replaced with a fully refurbished vessel, or bought out right by Stena and a full refurbishment undertaken.
At the moment she doesn't look particularly comfortable, like most Visentini vessels (with standard interior).Those little very hard chairs, hard tiled floors, and generally very utilitarian interiors, are quite nasty when you compare them to lets say the Stena Europe.
I seen some pictures on a friend's Facebook page of the Stena Horizon from last year and whilst not fully refurbished, both her bar areas seemed to have new seats and the bench type seating in the bar and restaurant upgraded. Whilst not up to the high standard of the Birkenhead ships she looked a step up from "standard Visentini" from pictures I've seen of the Etretat, Norman Asturias and Norman Atlantic.
A Stena friend told me - I'm not sure how true this is - that her charter rate is so low that there was no incentive to buy her immediately but they probably would at the end of her charter.
As for her and the Allegra switching - need to check but surely the Horizon has many more cabins and better freight capacity?
Good to hear about the seating. No offence intended but the Visentini interiors are quite brutal, when you compare them to even smaller vessels like European Highlander. Your right Paddy the Stena Mersey and Lagan are first class, very nice ships, and the interior is very good, and comfortable. I remember the ships back under Norfolk Line and they were pretty basic to say the least. To be honest their unrecognizable.
Stena Alegra I'm sure will prove to be a very good ship, and certainly looks first class. The stabiliser fins are an improvement as well. As far as I am aware her sister, P&O's European Endeavour only has flume stabilisers. Over the many journeys on her, I found she handles the Dublin - Liverpool crossing quite well, and that's 7 hours, and the ships do take quite a hammering in terms of weather conditions.
Capacity is lower though, which is a negative. Interesting what you said Paddy about the charter rates.
Stena have left the virtual tour of Carisma on their website, not sure when the pics were taken but the ship certainly looks well in them
https://v6-moving-pictures.com/stena_carisma/
I have also heard that the charter rate is low on Horizon, giving little incentive to purchase. Stena Horizon is also a direct sister to Stena Lagan/Mersey, and has some 2885 lane metres of vehicle space versus Alegra's 1900lm - that is before taking into account the possible effects of the conversion on things like deadweight, and wether any of that trailer space will be used for additional passenger accommodation or to allow additional passenger accommodation (such as supports encroaching, etc). Stena Line operate more than 3 Visentini's - Lagan and Mersey are actually the odd ships in the fleet in many ways. Much in the same way as Lagan and Mersey where (and to an extent still are), Horizon is primarily there to shift large amounts of freight efficiently, with passengers being a bonus.
Stena Alegra would be the odd one out in the Stena fleet (if she where a part of the Stena Line fleet - don't forget she is owned by Stena roro). You can guarantee that interislander are paying for the refurbishment and upgrade of Alegra through their charter fee, something Stena Line have no need to do as they have a perfectly capable ship in Stena Horizon. It is certainly more cost effective to do the work in Singapore than returning her to Europe first, and she did have some mechanical issues which needed rectified anyway - why bring back and convert a ship which isn't really needed when there is someone local willing to take her on and foot the bill anyway. By recent Northern European standards she is a little small anyway tbh. I believe it is intended that she will stay there now, much in the way the Marine Atlantic twins where initially chartered (and given a bespoke conversion) and are now to be purchased. Another example of a speculative purchase on the part of Stena which has paid off it seems!
Former Stena Alegra in final phase of rebuilding as Kaiarahi and is floating again, going to need lots of white paint to hide the rust streaks once it enters service.
https://www.interislander.co.nz/Our-Ships-And-Services/Kaiarahi/Singapore-Dry-Dock-Updates.aspx
Image of the hole cut in former Stena Aleagra to fit the stabiliser box taken from Stena RoRo twitter page
https://twitter.com/westlingper
Stena roro have chartered three freight vessels
http://news.cision.com/stena-roro
http://worldmaritimenews.com/archives/165571/stena-roro-charters-three-godby-sisters/
Wonder what they are going to with these ?
maybe a little off topic but now DFDS have the Mfl boats it would be nice to have the Ex Stena Nordica back up in the route as a freight only one sailing a day option, she has the deck height and space to take the huge amount of drops and is already tried and tested :)
DFDS have to be careful though. Last thing they want is to get in a war with P&O. European Seaway can also gobble up freight, and is well proven on the route. Currently the European Seaway is doing nothing, only costing P&O money being laid up. If DFDS wanted to put Stena Nordica into action, that would mean they would have four ships on Dover to Calais, and three on Dover to Dunkirk, the total coming to seven. P&O currently only have 5 vessels working the route.
I'm sure P&O wouldn't be too pleased to see the 'new kid on the block' (more of a headache than bumbling Seafrance) eat into more of their flagship route. If P&O wanted to they could counter Stena Nordica (Malo Seaways) deployment by re-activating European Seaway. P&O Ferries own the vessel, unlike DFDS who are having to charter, hence could probably offer more competitive prices to freight users.
Quote from: TC on July 07, 2015, 06:55:07 PM
DFDS have to be careful though. Last thing they want is to get in a war with P&O. European Seaway can also gobble up freight, and is well proven on the route. Currently the European Seaway is doing nothing, only costing P&O money being laid up. If DFDS wanted to put Stena Nordica into action, that would mean they would have four ships on Dover to Calais, and three on Dover to Dunkirk, the total coming to seven. P&O currently only have 5 vessels working the route.
I'm sure P&O wouldn't be too pleased to see the 'new kid on the block' (more of a headache than bumbling Seafrance) eat into more of their flagship route. If P&O wanted to they could counter Stena Nordica (Malo Seaways) deployment by re-activating European Seaway. P&O Ferries own the vessel, unlike DFDS who are having to charter, hence could probably offer more competitive prices to freight users.
way off topic here guys, not sure if there is a misunderstanding here, Malo Seaways will be part of DFDS fleet from Dover - Calais when sailings resume at the weekend, Rodin/ Berlioz will take quite a long time before they resume service in DFDS colours. - Any futher DFDS related talk should really take place on the Goodbye Myferry Link thread or DFDS fleet movements.
Agreed. Although I'll just say it looks quite likely the Seaway will be back in service on the Strait.
Anyway back to Stena, by the end of the month the Amber II should've arrived in Turkey with the HSS Discovery.
Has the Carisma moved yet, will the Trelleborg come back into service and does anyone know when the Ask takes over from the Scanrail?
Ask is to renamed Stena Gothica and takes over from the Scanrail in September, according to latest reports.
http://www.sjofartstidningen.se/stena-line-flaggar-in-ask/
Stena Carisma was moved for Volvo Ocean Race, but could be moved back to the linkspan in a few days.
Thanks Giftgrub, it's good the Ask is getting a new name. Does this mean that the Urd will be operating the Travemunde-Liepaja route by herself then, or have they got a second vessel lined up?
Stena Jutlandica involved in collision,
http://www.news.odin.tc/index.php?page=view/article/2262/Ferry-Stena-Jutlandica-with-tanker-Ternvind-off-Gothenburg
Quote from: giftgrub on July 19, 2015, 09:43:46 AM
Stena Jutlandica involved in collision,
http://www.news.odin.tc/index.php?page=view/article/2262/Ferry-Stena-Jutlandica-with-tanker-Ternvind-off-Gothenburg
She will be out of service at least to Sunday 26/7.
more images here:
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article21138205.ab
Quote from: boathansm on July 19, 2015, 04:41:01 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on July 19, 2015, 09:43:46 AM
Stena Jutlandica involved in collision,
http://www.news.odin.tc/index.php?page=view/article/2262/Ferry-Stena-Jutlandica-with-tanker-Ternvind-off-Gothenburg
She will be out of service at least to Sunday 26/7.
It'll be the 2nd of August now I believe.
Damage below the waterline also, Jutlandica on the way to dry dock in Odense for repairs.
Apparently lots of expensive cars on the Europe this evening as a family member visiting the harbour reported seeing multiple Bentleys, Astons etc coming up the hill as the Stena Europe, Stena Horizon, Epsilon were in port and the Isle of Inishmore was heading to Rosslare.
Ask is covering Stena Jutlandica until her return
For anyone interested, I have posted a photo tour of Stena Mersey on my website. Stena Mersey (and her sister, Stena Lagan) have of course been extensively refurbished, unlike most of the Visentini class. Theres also a couple of shots of the bridge ;).
http://wp.me/P4mKUi-kG (http://wp.me/P4mKUi-kG)
Great collection of photos of Stena Mersey there,,I must say she looks very well,Also I have to say u have to hand it to Stena ,they keep all of there ships right up to date.
Certainly some change from when I travelled on the Lagan Viking back in 2009 (Norfolkline days).
The best improvement - - - decent sized pillows on the beds!
Quote from: Steven on July 23, 2015, 07:44:44 PM
For anyone interested, I have posted a photo tour of Stena Mersey on my website. Stena Mersey (and her sister, Stena Lagan) have of course been extensively refurbished, unlike most of the Visentini class. Theres also a couple of shots of the bridge ;).
http://wp.me/P4mKUi-kG (http://wp.me/P4mKUi-kG)
Great images, never yet has the chance to travel on one of these fuel sipping ferries, the passenger accommodation must be small compared to other more traditional ferries, eg the Europe has most passenger spaces over two decks with shops and food areas all separated and spaced out, looking at Horizon when in port with Europe, just cannot work out the passenger spaces the Visentini looks a lot smaller for public areas, when in Stena + on Europe you are totally isolated from rest of ferry aside from the people passing by looking in the windows and on the Europe you have loads of outside deck space as well.
Quote from: giftgrub on July 23, 2015, 11:54:54 PM
Quote from: Steven on July 23, 2015, 07:44:44 PM
For anyone interested, I have posted a photo tour of Stena Mersey on my website. Stena Mersey (and her sister, Stena Lagan) have of course been extensively refurbished, unlike most of the Visentini class. Theres also a couple of shots of the bridge ;).
http://wp.me/P4mKUi-kG (http://wp.me/P4mKUi-kG)
Great images, never yet has the chance to travel on one of these fuel sipping ferries, the passenger accommodation must be small compared to other more traditional ferries, eg the Europe has most passenger spaces over two decks with shops and food areas all separated and spaced out, looking at Horizon when in port with Europe, just cannot work out the passenger spaces the Visentini looks a lot smaller for public areas, when in Stena + on Europe you are totally isolated from rest of ferry aside from the people passing by looking in the windows and on the Europe you have loads of outside deck space as well.
Stena Plus is separated, albeit by partitions, but once you are in there its pretty isolated, and it has its own beverage facilities, etc (not pictured). Regarding deck space, they have more than many modern builds, and I certainly have never had a problem finding a bit of personal space, even on busy sailings. The passenger accommodation is spread out along deck 5, with the bulk of the cabins on deck 6, and a few on deck 7 as well (where the crew areas and bridge are located). Stena operate this pair with a reduced passenger certificate - originally they where designed to hold up to 1000 passengers! Horizon is a direct sister to Mersey and Lagan, so the amount of accommodation should be the same, though it hasn't been refurbished due to her still being under charter.
Scott Mackey has some internal pictures of horizon on his flickr here https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157644178243320 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157644178243320). She is configured quite differently at the aft end of the passenger accommodation, with the area which is the cinema on Mersey and Lagan still a rather drab looking seat lounge. I do intend to eventually get some deck plans added to the website, but this will take time as I will have to draw them from scratch!
I can't really comment on them compared to Europe, as I haven't experienced Europe first hand. However, they were designed for very different times. Europe is almost 40m shorter as well. The way the Visentini's are laid out also seems to maximise the amount of space available for facilities in the space. Particularly on the overnight passage, there is no real need for lots of facilities anyway. As a service it seems to be proving really popular, now with passengers as well as freight.
Stranraer waterfront redevelopment back on track?
"Dumfries and Galloway Council and Stena Line have entered into a partnership with the McKinney Group to bring forward a potential £50m investment plan for Stranraer Waterfront."
http://news24h.allnews24h.com/pmha
Stena Jutlandica has arrived back in Gothenburg fully repaired and will return to service tomorrow at 12.45.
Hi all,
Does anybody know what the work currently being undertaken on the gangways at Harwich International is all about please? A note of Stena's website states that foot passengers are to be bussed on and off at Harwich until further notice. I know that the current gangways were built prior to the 2010 giants coming into service and that it is a real pain climbing the stairs once you get on board as they are currently configured.
Also, does anybody know whether the damaged berth 3 is now back in service after the Sirena Seaways collision?
I will be there at the end of the month to renew my acquaintance with the mighty Britannica and Hollandica, but it would be good to know in advance.
One final question, any warnings/advice on leaving my car at the car park at Harwich International for the week when I'm in Holland?
Steven, thanks for the Mersey pics, I'll be on the Lagan in September and very much looking forward to the experience.
Thanks
Matt
Stena Alegra still in shipyard in Singapore, don't think refurbishment has gone to plan, Arahura has been retired by Interislander before its arrival back in New Zealand.
Superfast X had a bit of trouble over the weekend as a rope got wrapped around one of the propellers, causing delays and issues with berthing in Holyhead. Not the smoothest introduction for the X.
Ask laid up in Lyeskil before returning to Gothenburg to replace Scanrail later in the year.
Quote from: giftgrub on August 11, 2015, 10:32:42 PM
Stena Alegra still in shipyard in Singapore, don't think refurbishment has gone to plan, Arahura has been retired by Interislander before its arrival back in New Zealand.
Superfast X had a bit of trouble over the weekend as a rope got wrapped around one of the propellers, causing delays and issues with berthing in Holyhead. Not the smoothest introduction for the X.
Ask laid up in Lyeskil before returning to Gothenburg to replace Scanrail later in the year.
Alegra has been delayed due wear in her stern tubes according to a spokesperson. She is expected to enter service sometime in October now. She has already been repainted and renamed, and looks rather well I must say!
Stena Superfast VIII missed a single round trip yesterday due to "technical issues". She is back to normal now.
Stena Lines Trelleborg has been moved from lay up in Rostock to Uddevalla in Sweden, one wonders what the future holds for this well looked after vessel.
The Kaiarahi (former Stena Alegra) remains at the shipyard in Singapore, refiited and rebuilt for Interislander.
https://www.interislander.co.nz/Our-Ships-And-Services/Kaiarahi/Singapore-Dry-Dock-Updates.aspx
It seems stena have started to remove the Voyager Linkspan at VT4, so far the fenders have been removed and a barge moved into place ahead of the linkspan, though I doubt that barge could accommodate the linkspan itself. Video of the fender removal can be seen here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRwk6mzGBMg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRwk6mzGBMg)
I have a vague recollection of talk of the Birkenhead twins moving to VT4 once the HSS linkspan had been removed (and presumably replaced by something more appropriate for them), to put the passenger ferries in one place. Was I imagining that, or is that still on the cards?
QuoteI have a vague recollection of talk of the Birkenhead twins moving to VT4 once the HSS linkspan had been removed (and presumably replaced by something more appropriate for them), to put the passenger ferries in one place. Was I imagining that, or is that still on the cards?
They don't need much, a single deck linkspan would do. Must be in the works as I can't think of a better reason to remove it right now.
If all Stena Line's passenger operations are moved to VT4 at a future date perhaps a few additional sailings on the Cairnryan route shall be available to foot passengers e.g. the 04.00 Cairnryan - Belfast arriving 06.15 (as the sailing from Liverpool would be arriving at 06.30 anyway).
Might also be nice to have a passenger gangway for the birkenhead twins too.
Quote from: J41140 on August 21, 2015, 01:43:23 PM
It seems stena have started to remove the Voyager Linkspan at VT4, so far the fenders have been removed and a barge moved into place ahead of the linkspan, though I doubt that barge could accommodate the linkspan itself. Video of the fender removal can be seen here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRwk6mzGBMg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRwk6mzGBMg)
There is also a crane in situ around the linkspan area. I wouldn't be surprised if they head for Holyhead and Dun Laoghaire when finished at Belfast.
Regarding a move to VT4, it would seem to make a lot of sense on some levels, but I'm not sure whether there would be the necessary marshalling space for both operations at VT4 in its present form (which was designed to serve a single route). The Birkenhead sailings on Mersey and Lagan are packed with freight, even following the introduction of Stena Hibernia (which doesn't seem to have proved as popular as hoped, possibly due to the sailing times and 12 driver capacity, and so hasn't really relieved the pressure on the Visentini twins). The marshalling area at VT2 is significant in size, the route also carries a lot of trade cars as well which need somewhere to sit. Theres also the advantage of VT1 and VT2 adjoining each other (Stena Hibernia can use the VT1 berth during the Visentini layover) - unfortunately VT3 (a container terminal) is in the way of joining them to VT4.
Another potential issue I see is that currently the HSS berth is far too short to accommodate the Visentini's. Any extension (by adding a dolphin), will probably box in the Superfast berth, potentially making berthing the ships more hazardous (particularly in bad weather). VT4 isn't in the most sheltered spot, being right at the entrance to the Port of Belfast. The superfast's literally sail straight in at present, and go astern and swing 180 degree's to depart. I wouldn't be shocked if Stena and Belfast Harbour decided to consolidate the operations to VT4 in the future, but IMO it would take a redesign of the facility and possibly even further land reclamation.
I have attached an image of VT4 for reference (from McLaughin and Harvey's website). This has changed a bit since the picture was taken though, not least by the addition of a long passenger walkway to the conventional berth.
(http://www.mclh.co.uk/media/2017/victoria-terminal-4.jpg)
Quote from: Matt73 on August 07, 2015, 10:02:38 PM
Hi all,
Does anybody know what the work currently being undertaken on the gangways at Harwich International is all about please? A note of Stena's website states that foot passengers are to be bussed on and off at Harwich until further notice. I know that the current gangways were built prior to the 2010 giants coming into service and that it is a real pain climbing the stairs once you get on board as they are currently configured.
Also, does anybody know whether the damaged berth 3 is now back in service after the Sirena Seaways collision?
I will be there at the end of the month to renew my acquaintance with the mighty Britannica and Hollandica, but it would be good to know in advance.
One final question, any warnings/advice on leaving my car at the car park at Harwich International for the week when I'm in Holland?
Steven, thanks for the Mersey pics, I'll be on the Lagan in September and very much looking forward to the experience.
Thanks
Matt
Hello Matt,
Firstly to answer your question of the gangway, unfortunately, the big multi million pound gangway collapsed to the ground one morning last year (at a mighty 4 years old) as the Britannica was departing. The belief is that a faulty part combined with the vibrations from the ships engines caused a centre section to fall 40 feet to the floor (but this is unconfirmed). A port worker was stranded on a part that didn't collapse and had to be rescued by fire crews. When you visit next week I'm afraid once you're onboard you'll either get a long long wait for a lift or have to take the mountain of stairs from Deck 3 (Lower car deck) to Deck 10/11 where your cabin is, as foot passengers are currently being taken from the terminal to the car deck of the ferry via a single decker chartered bus.
Theres a bit more regarding the gangway here: http://www.essex-fire.gov.uk/incidents/20666/
Berth 3, I have no definite idea what is happening with it, but my belief is that it won't be rebuilt as there isn't the need for it anymore. I have only seen one ship use it in the last 4 years and that was simply to have a skip put onboard (it was a 'floating hotel' for windfarm workers to use).
With regards to parking, I believe the pay on foot car park offers daily rates of around £8.60 to park and is situated right in front of the terminal. A few cruise ship passengers have tried leaving cars in the staff car park but return to find concrete bollards blocking them in so best to avoid that.
Hope this helps.
S.
I should add, regarding any potential of the Birkenhead service moving to Victoria Terminal 4, that it would make a hell of a lot of sense from a cost point of view. Running one passenger terminal instead of two would cost less for instance. The VT4 terminal is much more fit for purpose as well, although the Vt2 facility received a Barista coffee bar a few months ago for instance. From a staffing point of view it would make a lot of sense to combine the terminals as well for instance. From a car point of view, the VT2 terminal was designed for less car traffic waiting to check in it seems, resulting in cars almost queuing on the main road. There are no such issues at vt4 though.
At present, the HSS linkspan appears to be just sitting there. Perhaps it make sense to scrap it now before deterioration sets in (or continually paying to maintain it). Remember that it is also the original link span from Harwich, not the one which Voyager originally used as well (which went to H&W to be dismantled for spares when Stena moved up the lough).
The crane I mentioned before appears to be working on the linkspan. I haven't seen enough of it in action to determine what it is doing though.
QuoteRemember that it is also the original link span from Harwich, not the one which Voyager originally used as well (which went to H&W to be dismantled for spares when Stena moved up the lough).
isn't the VT4 linkspan the old Discovery HvH linkspan? The Harwich linkspan didn't have refueling capabilities (the couples that connect to the HSS between Aft doors 1 and 2, these couples allowed the transfer of waste water, fuel, etc. which are only present in a HSS's home port).
Or was this transfered to the other linkspan ?
Quote from: J41140 on August 23, 2015, 09:31:30 PM
QuoteRemember that it is also the original link span from Harwich, not the one which Voyager originally used as well (which went to H&W to be dismantled for spares when Stena moved up the lough).
isn't the VT4 linkspan the old Discovery HvH linkspan? The Harwich linkspan didn't have refueling capabilities (the couples that connect to the HSS between Aft doors 1 and 2, these couples allowed the transfer of waste water, fuel, etc. which are only present in a HSS's home port).
Or was this transfered to the other linkspan ?
Could be, I'm not sure to be honest - I meant to type Harwich route, but thats what happens when you are fighting iPhone autocorrect ;). I know that it was one of the pair from the Hoek route, as the original Belfast one was dismantled, thus allowing a smooth changeover to VT4.
The Stena Scanrail has finished its service for Stena Line today on the Gothenburg - Fredrickshaven route and had its funnel markings painted over already. The Ask takes over on the route.
A tribute video posted on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5ih5JojgS4#t=195
in Swedish, but feature lots of images and sights.
Funnel markings being removed
http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/Teien/media/IMG_80651.jpg.html
The dismantling of the HSS berth at Belfast continues. The passenger gangways are now in the process of being dismantled, in addition to the fenders being removed. Theres some pictures posted over on the NI Ferries and Shipping Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/niferrysite/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/niferrysite/)) for those who are members.
Image heavy report from a voyage on the Stena Danica last weekend, plenty of nice images including some of the recently repaired Stena Jutlandica.
http://www.landgangen.se/forum/index.php?topic=33592.0
and some more info on Stena Scanrail:
http://www.sjofartstidningen.se/scanrails-sista-resa/
Quote from: smudga on August 22, 2015, 01:12:55 AM
Quote from: Matt73 on August 07, 2015, 10:02:38 PM
Hi all,
Does anybody know what the work currently being undertaken on the gangways at Harwich International is all about please? A note of Stena's website states that foot passengers are to be bussed on and off at Harwich until further notice. I know that the current gangways were built prior to the 2010 giants coming into service and that it is a real pain climbing the stairs once you get on board as they are currently configured.
Also, does anybody know whether the damaged berth 3 is now back in service after the Sirena Seaways collision?
I will be there at the end of the month to renew my acquaintance with the mighty Britannica and Hollandica, but it would be good to know in advance.
One final question, any warnings/advice on leaving my car at the car park at Harwich International for the week when I'm in Holland?
Steven, thanks for the Mersey pics, I'll be on the Lagan in September and very much looking forward to the experience.
Thanks
Matt
Hello Matt,
Firstly to answer your question of the gangway, unfortunately, the big multi million pound gangway collapsed to the ground one morning last year (at a mighty 4 years old) as the Britannica was departing. The belief is that a faulty part combined with the vibrations from the ships engines caused a centre section to fall 40 feet to the floor (but this is unconfirmed). A port worker was stranded on a part that didn't collapse and had to be rescued by fire crews. When you visit next week I'm afraid once you're onboard you'll either get a long long wait for a lift or have to take the mountain of stairs from Deck 3 (Lower car deck) to Deck 10/11 where your cabin is, as foot passengers are currently being taken from the terminal to the car deck of the ferry via a single decker chartered bus.
Theres a bit more regarding the gangway here: http://www.essex-fire.gov.uk/incidents/20666/
Berth 3, I have no definite idea what is happening with it, but my belief is that it won't be rebuilt as there isn't the need for it anymore. I have only seen one ship use it in the last 4 years and that was simply to have a skip put onboard (it was a 'floating hotel' for windfarm workers to use).
With regards to parking, I believe the pay on foot car park offers daily rates of around £8.60 to park and is situated right in front of the terminal. A few cruise ship passengers have tried leaving cars in the staff car park but return to find concrete bollards blocking them in so best to avoid that.
Hope this helps.
S.
S,
Thank you very much for this information! I'm astonished, and not a little concerned, at the news about the gangway; Hutchinson hasn't had much luck with its facitilities over the last year so! Interesting re berth 3 and perhaps useful when/if Britannica/Hollandica are ever replaced with something larger; they will have some space to extend berth two even further. I am old enough to remember when Koningin Beatrix use to fit snugly into the old portal berth two. How things have changed.
Very much looking forward to visiting Harwich again and experiencing the ships; it will be four years since I was last onboard. I will try to post some pictures on my return.
Thanks again.
Matt
http://www.cruise-harwich.co.uk/images/harwich-cruise-port-map-large.jpg
I was a little confused by which Harwich berth was which, so I've enclosed a useful map which highlights the numbers.
Berth 1 (facing east) has now been incorporated into the cruise and container berth.
The old HSS berth is now just a redundant linkspan.
Berth 2 (facing west) is the current Stena Line berth to the Hook of Holland and used by the Stena Hollandica and Stena Britannica.
Berth 3 is the old DFDS berth to Esbjerg, although I'm sure the Sirena Seaways could use Berth 2 as well. Now used for wind farm work, as previously mentioned.
Berth 4 is the current Stena Line berth to Europoort and used by the Severine and Capucine.
Berth 5 is a tanker berth.
Hope that helps.
Some more interior snaps of Stena Mersey, this time from Scott Mackey.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/sets/72157652802137099
Rumour say Stena Scandinavica has been sold , Anyone have news ??
Quote from: Juju62 on September 01, 2015, 06:59:58 PM
Rumour say Stena Scandinavica has been sold , Anyone have news ??
Possibly to another Stena company Juteskaren AB based in Gothenburg, apparently, would not expect it to be leaving the fleet anytime soon
There is news that the Stena Hibernia and Stena Performer will be swapping routes from next week, in order to support traffic demands.
Quote from: mrwtho07 on September 01, 2015, 11:06:57 PM
There is news that the Stena Hibernia and Stena Performer will be swapping routes from next week, in order to support traffic demands.
Not doubting your information, but Unless Hibernia is sailing full all the time, that move would make no sense, and most reports do not indicate this to be the situation.
Quote from: Juju62 on September 01, 2015, 06:59:58 PM
Rumour say Stena Scandinavica has been sold , Anyone have news ??
Her ownership has transferred "on paper", to a company which shares its address with Stena Line Sweden, and who's CEO happens to be CEO or a board member of some 17 different Stena Group countries . She's going nowhere. I'll let you all decide yourselves the possible reasons a large company may want to transfer a valuable asset outside of it ;).
Also, it is not a rumour. Anyone who has read the latest interim update from Stena will see this mentioned, along with the address of the company :).
As of next Monday, Stena Performer and Stena Hibernia are to switch routes, with Performer operating Belfast - Birkenhead and Stena Hibernia returning to the Heysham route.
http://www.niferrysite.co.uk/stena-move-to-further-boost-capacity-on-belfast-liverpool-link/
Quote from: Steven on September 01, 2015, 11:52:13 PM
As of next Monday, Stena Performer and Stena Hibernia are to switch routes, with Performer operating Belfast - Birkenhead and Stena Hibernia returning to the Heysham route.
http://www.niferrysite.co.uk/stena-move-to-further-boost-capacity-on-belfast-liverpool-link/
Did not think Hibernia was sailing fully loaded all the time, great result for Birkenhead if it is.
Apologies Mrwtho07 for doubting your info
Don't worry about it giftgrub :). I only learnt about it on the Ferry News Facebook page and I thought it would be interesting news for the Stena thread. Does anyone know if the Ask has been officially renamed yet, as her AIS name hasn't changed but I know there can be occasionally discrepancies between the AIS and name on hull?
Quote from: mrwtho07 on September 02, 2015, 10:01:30 PM
Don't worry about it giftgrub :). I only learnt about it on the Ferry News Facebook page and I thought it would be interesting news for the Stena thread. Does anyone know if the Ask has been officially renamed yet, as her AIS name hasn't changed but I know there can be occasionally discrepancies between the AIS and name on hull?
That was via the niferrysite Facebook feed ;):D. Re Ask/Stena Gothica, so far as I know she still has her old name. I'll keep my eyes and ears open for you though.
Quote from: giftgrub on September 02, 2015, 08:54:41 PM
Did not think Hibernia was sailing fully loaded all the time, great result for Birkenhead if it is.
Apologies Mrwtho07 for doubting your info
She isn't, but she is more needed at Birkenhead than at Heysham it seems. Belfast-Heysham still has more capacity than when Stena first took over the route as well, so it's not a total loss for Heysham.
Here's a wee vid from Stena about the UK chamber of shipping "Maritime Nation" initiative. Filmed in Holyhead, it shows highlights of Stena's shipping operations in the UK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyyK9uOlY0Q&sns=em
QuoteFerry firm Stena Line says it could bring more or bigger ships to Holyhead if freight trade continues to flourish - but warned pinch points on the A55 could impact on expansion plans.
Stena Line route director Ian Davies revealed they had seen between 6% and 8% growth year on year in freight over the past two years.
With the shortest crossing over the Irish Sea the port has boomed on the back of expanding supermarket logistics with giants like Tesco and Marks and Spencer supplying their Irish stores.
Mr Davies said if growth continued then an expansion of capacity could be needed in the future. (Continues)
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/stena-line-could-increase-holyhead-10059382?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Quote from: Steven on September 16, 2015, 02:10:45 PM
QuoteFerry firm Stena Line says it could bring more or bigger ships to Holyhead if freight trade continues to flourish - but warned pinch points on the A55 could impact on expansion plans.
Stena Line route director Ian Davies revealed they had seen between 6% and 8% growth year on year in freight over the past two years.
With the shortest crossing over the Irish Sea the port has boomed on the back of expanding supermarket logistics with giants like Tesco and Marks and Spencer supplying their Irish stores.
Mr Davies said if growth continued then an expansion of capacity could be needed in the future. (Continues)
http://www.dailypost.co.uk/business/stena-line-could-increase-holyhead-10059382?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Interesting statements from Ian Davies, consider that the Superfast X gives the same freight capacity as Nordica and they have withdrawn HSS, despite all the new vessel fanfare, they have been consolidating not increasing capacity. if numbers do keep rising obviously the Adventurer stays, Superfast X stays ?, Nordica reintroduced (if DFDS rumours are true), or maybe add a Visentini, or pure freighter to the route.
The former Stena Alegra has finally left Singapore for New Zealand to enter service for Interislander, hopefully the major refurbishment will banish all the Gremlins that have plagued the vessel since it left the river Fal after its long period laid up.
Check out Interislander's Facebook page for the latest image Of the Kaiarahi
Good luck to the former Stena Alegra.
It would be great to see Stena Nordica back at Holyhead but maybe a Dublin-Holyhead freight only service would make more sense?
Ian Davies is right, that Britannia Bridge can be a nightmare....
Is the contract for Malo Seaways endingwith DFDS early or what is the issue? Is this why they can re use her on the Holyhead - Dublin Route?
Quote from: Andrew White on September 18, 2015, 08:25:38 AM
Is the contract for Malo Seaways endingwith DFDS early or what is the issue? Is this why they can re use her on the Holyhead - Dublin Route?
No - she is still due to be with DFDS until next Autumn. Any debate here is just speculation.
The Gothenburg based Ask which replaces the Stena Scanrail on the Fredrickshaven route has been renamed Stena Gothica, according to its ais report on Marine Traffic.
The Kaiarahi formerly the Stena Alegra has arrived in Wellington New Zealand at last, ready to start its new charter to Interislander.
A good summer for Stena Line
http://www.sjofartstidningen.se/positiv-trend-for-stena-line/
I have seen talk that DFDS intend to use Malo Seaways to provide extra capacity on the North Sea. Cannot confirm the accuracy of that at this stage though!
Don't think this has been mentioned before?
QuoteSTENA LINE AND THE PORT OF ROTTERDAM AGREE TO BUILD A SECOND BERTH AT EUROPOORT
Stena Line and the Port of Rotterdam announced their collaboration to build a second berth at the Stena Line terminal at Europoort*, as part of a 27 million Euro investment.
Freight volumes between Rotterdam and the UK have continued to grow in recent years as the economy recovers from the crash in 2008 and predictions for sustained future growth are positive.
Annika Hult, Route Manager, Stena Line North Sea said "We are pleased with the development of the second berth in Rotterdam and of our routes to Harwich and Killingholme. We believe in the future of Europoort as a strong freight hub on the North Sea and are committed to the development of the terminal as part of a long term investment plan. The second berth allows us to fully facilitate business development long-term and to meet future customer demand."
Joyce Bliek, Director Containers at Port of Rotterdam: "This is a big investment and demonstrates the confidence in the RoRo-market's long-term development and the growing freight volumes to and from Rotterdam. The Port of Rotterdam is committed to enable further growth; amongst others via developing additional rail capacity to strengthen the RoRo rail infrastructure."
The work to develop the new berth, with a length of 212m and 6.30m draft, will start shortly and is expected to be completed in Q1 2017. The current berth will then be renewed and both berths are planned to be operational by January 1, 2018 offering Stena Line much greater flexibility to service the growing freight market.
*Europoort is owned by the Port of Rotterdam and leased long-term to Stena Line.
Drone images of the former Stena Alegra on sea trials in Singapore
https://stena.sharefile.com/share#/view/s4c3af1174224ad0b/ficeadc8-c8c4-1615-969d-5cfbfa73bf6d
Large file : size to download 700mb+
length 2 mins 30 secs
Stena Mersey in H&W drydock presumably for a routine service?
Quote from: ferryfan on October 04, 2015, 11:24:06 PM
Stena Mersey in H&W drydock presumably for a routine service?
As per Stena Website : Monday 5th October
The 22:00 Liverpool (Birkenhead) to Belfast sailing has been cancelled due to an operational issue. The next sailing to Belfast will be Tuesday 6th October 2015 at 10.30.
Wonder what the issue is?
Quote from: Andrew White on October 05, 2015, 08:29:13 AM
Quote from: ferryfan on October 04, 2015, 11:24:06 PM
Stena Mersey in H&W drydock presumably for a routine service?
As per Stena Website : Monday 5th October
The 22:00 Liverpool (Birkenhead) to Belfast sailing has been cancelled due to an operational issue. The next sailing to Belfast will be Tuesday 6th October 2015 at 10.30.
Wonder what the issue is?
Routine maintenance. She is off until at least Thursday.
QuoteStena running a reduced service to Birkenhead this week, as Stena Mersey dry-docked.
Stena Line have confirmed that they will be running a reduced service on the Belfast - Birkenhead route this week, until Thursday morning. As reported on the NIFS Facebook page,
Stena Mersey entered the dry-dock at Belfast yesterday, for what NIFS believe is routine maintenance. In the meantime, the route will continue to operate with Stena Lagan (passengers and freight) and the freight vessel Stena Performer. Stena Mersey is currently showing on Stena's online booking engine as being back in service as of the 10:30 ex Belfast on Thursday.
As always, if you intend to travel, please call Stena Ferry Check on +44 (0) 8705 755 755 for the latest information.
Title image: Stena Mersey in dry-dock at Harland and Wolff at the end of 2014. Copyright © Scott Mackey.
www.niferrysite.co.uk/sailing-update-reduced-stena-service-birkenhead-week
Via @theferryman on twitter
A drone video of the Kaiarahi (ex Stena Allegra, etc) on sea trials. (you will need to download to view)
https://stena.sharefile.com/share#/view/s4c3af1174224ad0b
A little bit off centre - Stena Gothica
https://www.vesselfinder.com/news/4408-Swedish-Ferry-Stena-Gothica-listed-heavily-due-to-technical-trouble
Hmm yes something doesn't look quite right. She is 33 years old, so technical problems would probably be common enough, and given she's been lengthened, and had quite a dramatic rebuild, who knows what is going on!
I can't see Stena clinging to these vessels. I cant believe how old they are! 33 years old is quite a long time, and these vessels have had many owners.
Quote from: TC on October 06, 2015, 09:55:41 PM
Hmm yes something doesn't look quite right. She is 33 years old, so technical problems would probably be common enough, and given she's been lengthened, and had quite a dramatic rebuild, who knows what is going on!
I can't see Stena clinging to these vessels. I cant believe how old they are! 33 years old is quite a long time, and these vessels have had many owners.
I think, like Europe, they'll be around for a year or two yet. They fulfill their role well after all, and though old, have been substantially rebuilt (and IIRC re-engined). Stena Seatrader survived to 35 years old in the Stena fleet after all, then went on for a few years further use. The fact that Ask was recently given a total repaint and renamed to Stena Gothica suggests to me she's not leaving Stena any time soon.
In other news, Stena Superfast VII and VIII are to have some downtime during October, with a reduced timetable operating to Loch Ryan Port over the next 2 weekends. This is for routine maintenance. I believe it is planned that Stena Hibernia will operate some freight only sailings during these periods, and that the maintenance will be conducted alongside at Belfast. I'll update NIFS as I learn more.
Gothica's problem may just be something as simple as a ballast pump out of order. Worrying for those on board but relatively inexpensive to fix.
Quote from: Davy Jones on October 07, 2015, 10:37:07 AM
Gothica's problem may just be something as simple as a ballast pump out of order. Worrying for those on board but relatively inexpensive to fix.
Indeed.
Stena Mersey left the dry-dock this afternoon, and is currently alongside Belfast's D1 before her scheduled re-entry to service tomorrow morning.
Quote from: Davy Jones on October 07, 2015, 10:37:07 AM
Gothica's problem may just be something as simple as a ballast pump out of order. Worrying for those on board but relatively inexpensive to fix.
Yes maybe a ballast pump out of order...hope the trailers onboard were chained down :o
Just came across this on the Youtube
Features a crossing on the the Stena Horizon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP3WSUZ-eS8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqvzPdwOgxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMz7t7QChmo
Stena Superfast VIII had a day and a half layover for maintenance on Friday evening/Saturday, returning to service on Sunday. Her sister will be off this coming Saturday, again for maintenance.
QuoteStena Scanrail sold to Turkey and renamed to Birdeniz
The "Stena Scanrail" has been sold to a Turkish shipping and renamed "Birdeniz" to sail in the eastern Mediterranean Sea.
Jesper Waltersson at Stena Line confirms that the ship was taken over by the new owner in the middle of last week.
According to Jesper Waltersson buyer is Turkish and the ship will enter service in the eastern Mediterranean.
After the sale, Stena Scanrail named Birdeniz shifted to the Turkish flag.
SHIP INFO:
Vessel BIRDENIZ (IMO: 7305772, MMSI: 271044320) is a passenger/ro-ro cargo ship buit in 1973 and currently sailing under the flag of Turkey. BIRDENIZ has 115m length overall and beam of 16m. Her gross tonnage is 7504 tons
http://www.seanews.com.tr/news/155326/Ro-Pax-Stena-Scanrail-sold-to-Turkey-and-renamed-to-Birdeniz.html
It seems the Stena Germanica methanol trial is going well, as it is to be extended with her going 100% methanol early next year.
QuoteStena AB has confirmed that it will shortly convert a second main engine on its ferry Stena Germanica to methanol propulsion after running the one engine for about 700 hours on methanol. All four engines will eventually have four main engines running on methanol by early next year on her route between Gothenburg and Kiel.
Stena said that preparations for the conversion took place when the vessel was in drydock at Remontowa shipyard in March this year so the new conversions are expected to be a lot quicker than for the first engine. The second engine is due to be converted during December and the remaining two by early next year.
The timetable for the engine conversions has been devised so as not to jeopardise the vessel's operation and to minimise delays.
Methanol requires about double the volume compared to marine diesel oil in order to achieve the same output but the environmental profile is similar to LNG but with less challenging infrastructure. Stena has partnered with Wärtsilä in the conversion project.
Stena would not say whether any more of its ships will be converted to methanol. A spokesman said: "First we will let Stena Germanica be fully completed and sail for six to 12 months. After that we would like to convert more vessels."
http://www.passengership.info/news/view,istena-germanicai-to-go-fully-methanol_40950.htm
The Stena Scandinavica has to go into dry dock (in Turku) after an issue with a propeller shaft, cover will be provided by the Stena Gothica.
http://www.sjofartstidningen.se/stena-scandinavica-dockas-i-nadendal/
Also the Stena Nautica was in the wars earlier in the week when it was hit by a Wind Turbine installation vessel.
http://ekstrabladet.dk/112/stena-line-faerge-ramt-af-flydekran/5839310
The Stena Nautica returned to service, with minimal damage.
Poor old Nautica, the amount of incidents that vessel has had!
What would we think of Stena Nautica replacing Stena Europe? Not many years in the difference, and speed isn't hr strong point, but I presume she would be more efficient to operate than Stena Europe?
Quote from: TC on November 26, 2015, 03:23:13 PM
Poor old Nautica, the amount of incidents that vessel has had!
What would we think of Stena Nautica replacing Stena Europe? Not many years in the difference, and speed isn't hr strong point, but I presume she would be more efficient to operate than Stena Europe?
Her sistership operated from Pembroke-Rosslare for B&I Line back in the day, if memory serves.
Matt
Hi Matt
If you don't mind saying it was the Stena Nautica That was chartered to B&I line back in 1992 for 3 years. The sister ship was the Stena Invicta and she did stand in on the Stena line routes in Ireland.
Quote from: Ian Walker on November 27, 2015, 10:19:09 PM
Hi Matt
If you don't mind saying it was the Stena Nautica That was chartered to B&I line back in 1992 for 3 years. The sister ship was the Stena Invicta and she did stand in on the Stena line routes in Ireland.
Correct and hopefully we will not see the Nautica on the Irish Sea again, was always under pressure to maintain schedule on Rosslare - Pembroke and all these years later after being butchered into its current form, not the nicest looking ferry.
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/niels_klim_1986.htm
http://www.ferry-site.dk/ferry.php?id=8317954&lang=en
Images of the rebuild / 2001
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/extra_bilder/stena_nautica_1986_ombg_1.htm
Sister ship, the former Stena Invicta which spent a short period of time on the Irish Sea over the years:
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/peder_paars_1985.htm
I think Nautica was the former Isle of Innishfree for B&I. I remember speed was an issue (Only 17knots) but in today market speed isn't everything. P&O generally cruise at 18 knots.
Stena Nautica was chartered by ICG in 1992 just after they took over the old B&I line, to replace the Munster on the Rosslare route and named Isle of Innishfree. A year later she shifted to Dublin and the old Leinster now named Isle Of Inishmore moved down south. She remained in the fleet until the new Innishfree arrived in 1995. When she arrived she was the biggest ship ever to work the Irish sea at about 20,000 tons and could carry over 1800 passengers and 400 cars. I think she was the last ship to carry the B&I logo?
Quote from: ferryfan on November 27, 2015, 11:40:26 PM
Stena Nautica was chartered by ICG in 1992 just after they took over the old B&I line, to replace the Munster on the Rosslare route and named Isle of Innishfree. A year later she shifted to Dublin and the old Leinster now named Isle Of Inishmore moved down south. She remained in the fleet until the new Innishfree arrived in 1995. When she arrived she was the biggest ship ever to work the Irish sea at about 20,000 tons and could carry over 1800 passengers and 400 cars. I think she was the last ship to carry the B&I logo?
Nautica is a very different ship now, with an entire passenger deck having been removed to expand her vehicle capacity. As a result, her passenger certificate is much reduced. Nordica (modified and with an accommodation extension) would have been a better option TBH. However, with Stena Europe set to keep going for at least another year, she could again become an option. A Visentini could also be a solution, though like Nordica the freight capacity would be wasted. I do wonder though how much of a future the Fishguard route really has.
I think it would be a shame to loose Fishguard. Road improvements could be made. In a way Nordica might be the ideal solution.
If P&O manage to get Larne into better health by improving efficiencies by having only Highlander and Causeway, coupled with better prices, both freight and car passengers may start to use the service again. If Fishguard was made more 'efficient' and freight attracted to use the service, better still if they could get a dedicated freighter to run alongside Nordica, they might be able to turn the service around.
Fishguard also has the strategic asset of a rail line right into the port if a railfreight breakthrough into the short sea market was made.
As well as the line up the east coast to Dublin, Rosslare has a line to the south-west.
In my opinion foot passenger traffic on the route is not at its optimum level principally because (in my view) marketing is too general e.g. why can't Stena Line flag the bargain SailRail fares and integrated service from Rosslare to Swansea/London etc... on their homepage banners once in a while? Also because of public transport deficits at Rosslare. It is farcical in this day and age that there is no public transport access from large towns like Arklow and Carlow to the port for the morning sailings.
Quote from: TC on November 28, 2015, 04:18:52 PM
I think it would be a shame to loose Fishguard. Road improvements could be made. In a way Nordica might be the ideal solution.
If P&O manage to get Larne into better health by improving efficiencies by having only Highlander and Causeway, coupled with better prices, both freight and car passengers may start to use the service again. If Fishguard was made more 'efficient' and freight attracted to use the service, better still if they could get a dedicated freighter to run alongside Nordica, they might be able to turn the service around.
There isn't enough freight at the moment for the current vessel, another vessel is only going to make things worse. The route simply isn't as attractive for freight as those from Dublin. Much of the goods either originate or are destined for the Dublin area or places linked to Dublin by decent roads in any case. Dublin is also attractive for shipments to NI from England hence the gradual shift south from the North Channel routes. Rosslare however is not. With modern day roads, even shipments originating in or with a destination of Cork are as well going through Dublin as Rosslare.
QuoteNIFS understand that Stena Superfast VIII will be off service this coming Saturday 5th Dec from 14:00 until Sunday 6th December's 11:30 sailing for essential maintenance. The online booking engine has already been updated.
The following sailings will be cancelled:
Ex Belfast Sat: 15:30,19:30
Ex Cairnryan (Loch Ryan Port) Sat: 15:30, 23:00. Sundays 05:00 has been retimed to 04:15.
As always, if you intend to travel, please call Stena Ferry Check on +44 (0) 8705 755 755 for the latest information.
http://wp.me/p4mKUi-qj
QuoteNIFS understand Stena Flavia has been nominated as the refit cover vessel for the Irish Sea Jan-Mar 2016. It is believed she will cover for Stena Horizon at Rosslare before covering for Stena Superfast X and Stena Adventurer at Holyhead. Superfast X will provide refit relief for her north channel sisters, Stena Superfast VII and VIII. Stena Flavia is of course a part-sister to Stena Lagan, Stena Mersey, Stena Horizon, and Irish Ferries Epsilon.
http://wp.me/p4mKUi-ql
I enjoyed a trip on the Stena Lagan a few weeks ago so will probaly make a crossing on Flavia when it arrives in Dublin.
Quote from: Ian Walker on November 27, 2015, 10:19:09 PM
Hi Matt
If you don't mind saying it was the Stena Nautica That was chartered to B&I line back in 1992 for 3 years. The sister ship was the Stena Invicta and she did stand in on the Stena line routes in Ireland.
Thanks Ian. I stand corrected!
Matt
Baltic Sea based Stena Flavia is heading to the Irish sea in 2016 to be the relief ship for the Irish Sea services according to reports today on following link:
http://www.niferrysite.co.uk/stena-line-refits-2016/
Quote from: ferryfan on December 02, 2015, 01:25:01 PM
I enjoyed a trip on the Stena Lagan a few weeks ago so will probaly make a crossing on Flavia when it arrives in Dublin.
From memory, Flavia stil offers a more "factory" Visentini experience.
Quote from: giftgrub on December 02, 2015, 08:07:10 PM
Baltic Sea based Stena Flavia is heading to the Irish sea in 2016 to be the relief ship for the Irish Sea services according to reports today on following link:
http://www.niferrysite.co.uk/stena-line-refits-2016/
Senior moment apologies did not spot earlier post.
Stena Flavia to be covered on Travemunde-Ventspils by Gothenburg - Fredrikshavn's Stena Gothica (ex Ask/Seafreight Freeway) during the period she is away.
Stena Scandinavica to return to service without fix for propeller
http://www.sjofartstidningen.se/stena-scandinavica-repareras-senare/
Also Stena Danica to get new propellers and bulbous bow to fine tune vessel for slower speed sailing in dry docking at the end of the month.
Quote from: giftgrub on December 02, 2015, 10:27:27 PM
Stena Scandinavica to return to service without fix for propeller
http://www.sjofartstidningen.se/stena-scandinavica-repareras-senare/
Also Stena Danica to get new propellers and bulbous bow to fine tune vessel for slower speed sailing in dry docking at the end of the month.
Very unlikely that the iconic veteran of the Fredrikshavn link is on the agenda for replacement then. Glad to see they are taking further steps to prolong her life. Its a shame about her sister's eventual fate :(.
I think she went down hill from a mechanical perspective when she was in service for Kystlink as Pride of Telemark. I was quite surprised when she received a repaint in 2011 a few months before she was scrapped.
Sailing cancellations and delays
Taken from NI Ferrysite ;)
Belfast – Cairnryan (Loch Ryan Port)
No information on any cancelled sailings yet, however crossings tomorrow in particular are expected to be very rough.
Belfast – Liverpool (Birkenhead)
Both tonights sailings and the departure tomorrow (Saturday) morning in both directions have been cancelled due to rough weather.
Dublin – Holyhead
No delays or cancellations notified at present, with both vessels operating to schedule.
Rosslare – Fishguard
The 21:15 departure from Rosslare is cancelled due to weather, as is the 02:30 departure from Fishguard.
Rosslare – Cherbourg
At present Stena Horizon looks set depart Rosslare at 16:30 tomorrow as scheduled.
http://www.niferrysite.co.uk/1658-2/ (http://www.niferrysite.co.uk/1658-2/)
Stena Superfast X's 02:30 departure from Dublin and 08:55 from Holyhead, and Stena Europe's 09:00 from Rosslare have been cancelled due to weather conditions.
Also, I forgot to post this earlier in the week:
QuoteNIFS understand that Stena Superfast VIII will be off service this coming Saturday 5th Dec from 14:00 until Sunday 6th December's 11:30 sailing for essential maintenance. The online booking engine has already been updated.
The following sailings will be cancelled:
Ex Belfast Sat: 15:30, 19:30
Ex Cairnryan (Loch Ryan Port) Sat: 15:30, 23:00. Sundays 05:00 has been retimed to 04:15.
As always, if you intend to travel, please call Stena Ferry Check on +44 (0) 8705 755 755 for the latest information.
http://wp.me/p4mKUi-qj
Stena appear to be operating Stena Hibernia and Stena Performer between Belfast and Birkenhead, I assume to keep unaccompanied freight moving. Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey appear to be set to sail tonight as normal though.
Fishguard to Rosslare sailings are cancelled all day, with a decision being taken over the 02:30 ex Fishguard about now. Stena Superfast X is also cancelled all day today.
(Fishguard-Rosslare)
Quote*******There are currently adverse weather forecasts for the Irish Sea - the 0230 and 1430 hrs sailings Saturday 5th December and 0230 6th December are CANCELLED, and the 0230 Sunday *****
A decision on the 142:30 hours Sunday 6th December will be made at 20:00 hours today.
(The Stena Europe is currently berthed in Rosslare)
Superfast X berthed at Ocean Pier 33 in Dublin going nowhere for the time being, Ulysses and Adventurer (eta 18.15) both well behind schedule Ulysses making only 13 knots of Welsh Coast. Ulysses is expected to arrive Dublin at 20.00 so tonights 20.55 will be running significantly late.
Tonights Epsilon Cherbourg service cancelled as is tonights Rosslare- Pembroke, Rosslare-Fishguard,Belfast- Liverpool.
Meanwhile Stena Horizon remains berthed in Cherbourg so todays crossing from Rosslare is obviously cancelled as well.
Have fun if your sailing over the next couple of days.
Europe cancelled all day tomorrow as well. I believe things were very lively out there today on the ships that did sail! Stena Superfast X is off for at least the rest of today. I believe Stena Hibernia couldn't get in to Heysham last night, and so diverted to Birkenhead instead - she is still there as I type, meaning Stena Precision is operating the Heysham link alone. Stena Performer looks to be laid over in Belfast as usual, while Stena Superfast VIII is berthed at D1 for her planned maintenance with SSFVII maintaining the Cairnryan link alone.
Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey have sailed from Belfast and Liverpool respectively, so Belfast - Birkenhead is back to its normal weekend strength.
Europe sailed on time this morning, but return from Fishguard was cancelled.
(Fishguard-Rosslare)
QuoteStena Line regret to advise the 02:30 hours Monday 7th December has been cancelled due to technical problems. Stena Line regret any inconvenience this may cause.
(Fishguard - Rosslare)
QuoteStena Line regret to advise the 02:30 hours Tuesday 8th December has been cancelled due to technical problems. The next sceduled sailing is at 14:30 hours 8th Dec. Stena Line regret any inconvenience this may cause.
Wonder what the nature of the technical problems are.
Between weather and this the best part of three full days are lost.
Left Fishguard late today as well and has taken a different track to Rosslare. Hopefully nothing serious as they need reliability heading in to Christmas season.
From what I hear, things are still pretty rough down there TBH.
Looks the stena Dublin -Holyhead schedule is pretty messed up at the moment over Eva.
Stena Adventurer still in dublin waiting to do the 0820 sailing, stena superfast waiting to enter Dublin.
stena adventurer going t be sailing in to Christmas day by the look of thinks as it has three sailings to do. Hope everyone gets home for Christmas!
Looks like Stena Line and the Stena Adventurer get the Christmas No1 on Holyhead-Dublin 8)
Stena Danica is in Gdansk for a major refit including engine modifications and new bulbous bow to optimise the vessel for the slower journey times now in operation.
Irish Sea refits to begin soon.
Storm Frank playing absolute havoc with schedules. Superfast X did not leave Holyhead this morning and is currently circling just outside the harbour. Adventurer is sxcheduled to depart Holyhead on time as is Ulysses, however OW, Swift and Superfast X sailings are all cancelled as is tonights Adventurer crossing ex Dublin.
On the southern corridor tonights Stena Europe crossing from Rosslare has also fallen foul to the conditions. Tonights Stena Horizon crossing to Cherbourg has been brought forward with a 16:00 departure.
All Belfast sailings appear to be unaffected by the weather. Best of luck to anyone crossing the Irish Sea over the next couple of days.
Quote from: ferryfan on November 27, 2015, 11:40:26 PM
I think she was the last ship to carry the B&I logo?
Inishfree made her last sailing on 14th of April 1995, Leinster had a run in with the quay wall in Rosslare in October, and was repainted and renamed while under going repairs.
QuoteMajority of Stena Line Irish Sea fleet to visit Harland and Wolff in early 2016.
As previously speculated, Stena Flavia will be the designated refit cover vessel for Stena Line's Irish Sea refits in 2016. Stena Flavia will leave the Baltic on 09/1/16 for Rosslare to take up service to Cherbourg from 14/1/16 until 8/3/16 in place of Stena Horizon. Gothenburg to Frederikshavn vessel Stena Gothica is planned to cover for Stena Flavia in her absence. The former Celtic Link vessel Stena Horizon will visit Harland and Wolff from 14/1/16 to 28/1/16, after which she will cover the Dublin to Holyhead route until approximately 7/3/16.
On Stena Horizon's arrival at Dublin, Stena Superfast X will have an in water survey from 28/1/16 until 30/1/16. She will then leave for Belfast to cover the refits of Stena Superfast VIII and VII, returning to Holyhead on 16/2/16 and onto Stena Adventurer's schedule until 7/3/16 when the ships will revert to their own schedules on Stena Adventurer's return from Belfast. Stena Adventurer will visit Harland and Wolff from 16/2/16 until 7/3/16.
The North Channel twins Stena Superfast VIII and Stena Superfast VII will also visit Harland and Wolff. Stena Superfast VIII will go first this year, getting the longer refit period from 1/2/16 until 14/2/16. Stena Superfast VII will visit the shipyard from 16/2/16 to 16/2/16. Cover for both vessels will be provided by Dublin to Holyhead's Stena Superfast X - allowing an opportunity for those of us who use the North Channel service regularly to compare her against her sisters on the same service. Stena Superfast X is of course configured very differently inside from VII and VIII.
Stena Europe will be the odd one out from the fleet, visiting A&P Falmouth from 16/2/16 to approximately 7/3/16. The veteran Rosslare to Fishguard vessel will not be covered, instead a space charter is again to provided on the Irish Ferries Rosslare - Pembroke dock service, as has become the norm in recent years.
Table of dates at http://www.niferrysite.co.uk/stena-line-irish-sea-refits-2016/
Stena Europe and Stena Adventurer are off at refit for quite some time? Both vessels have been getting quite a battering and are naturally showing it. Nice to hear their going in for a decent amount of time. Europe I think will just get a 'make do and mend' refit. I can't see Stena ploughing much investment into her.
Stena Horizon operating the Dublin to Holyhead should be interesting.
I understand P&O Ferries are chartering Patria Seaways from DFDS to cover Hull - Zeebrugge, with Pride of Bruges / York in turn covering Pride of Rotterdam / Hull. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Patria Seaways isn't dispatched to Dublin to Liverpool to cover for European Endeavour which is due for a refit, full repaint, new funnel house flag and P&O typeface on hull.
Stena Adventurer and Norbay taking a very off course route across this morning as far south as Wicklow before turning back northward.
Screenprint from marine traffic here
http://fastferryfan.tumblr.com/image/136253047166
Quote from: TC on December 30, 2015, 12:20:08 AM
Stena Europe and Stena Adventurer are off at refit for quite some time? Both vessels have been getting quite a battering and are naturally showing it. Nice to hear their going in for a decent amount of time. Europe I think will just get a 'make do and mend' refit. I can't see Stena ploughing much investment into her.
Stena Horizon operating the Dublin to Holyhead should be interesting.
I understand P&O Ferries are chartering Patria Seaways from DFDS to cover Hull - Zeebrugge, with Pride of Bruges / York in turn covering Pride of Rotterdam / Hull. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if Patria Seaways isn't dispatched to Dublin to Liverpool to cover for European Endeavour which is due for a refit, full repaint, new funnel house flag and P&O typeface on hull.
Going off topic here, but if Patria Seaways was to end up in Dublin, it would be the first time the former Stena Traveller returned to Dublin Port where it started the Dublin - Holyhead service for Stena Line many years ago.
Malo Seaways the former Stena Nordica has been reflagged to the UK Port of Dover having been registered in Le Harve when the transfer to DFDS took place, it has also reverted to the same call sign as used when operated by Stena 2BX02, rumours from Dover that DFDS might hand back the ship to Stena Ro Ro earlier than next October, once DFDS refit season and the former MyFerryLink vessels enter service possibly in April.
Would assume that DFDS would be responsible for removing the cow catcher on the bow and putting the stern ramp back on the vessel allowing it to operate from any port, rather than just Dover Calais.
Malo Seawaysis due to be replaced by the Côte des Dunes (former Rodin) in early February with the former Berlioz due to return in mid to late February. The fact that she has reverted to her previous call sign and flag would suggest that she will undeed be returning to Stena shortly. Piece about it in this French magazine,
http://www.meretmarine.com/fr/node/134523
A source had told me a couple of months ago that Malo Seaways would be staying with DFDS until at least the end of her charter, but plans change. I believe she IS rather thirsty though, and DFDS did carry out a lot of work to her - not just to the bow and stern, but also converting the engines to run on MGO, as well as work in the galley and some new flooring in some spaces. She does very much remain a Stena ship inside though. We'll probably find out for sure soon enough, but I can think of at least one route were she would be very welcome...
I am led to believe the reversion of the flag to the UK was a measure to reduce crewing costs with her French crew going across to one of the "new" ships.
Stena RoRo secure charter for three more vessels with Transfennica
http://www.sjofartstidningen.se/godby-fartyg-hyrs-ut-till-transfennica/
Originally thought to have been acquired to replace the Cobelfret charters from UK- Holland, the three Godby Shipping vessels are now sent on charter with Transfennica.
Also the Mercy Ships New build Atlantic Mercy has started construction in China, the build is being managed by Stena RoRo
http://www.sjofartstidningen.se/sjukhusfartyg-kolstrackt-i-kina/
Stena Europe requires 35 year survey to stay in service, that will be expensive.
Quote from: PaddyL on January 02, 2016, 08:43:32 PM
Stena Europe requires 35 year survey to stay in service, that will be expensive.
Indeed! I wonder what the future could hold if, for some reason, the bills mount up. After all, at that age its not as if the money will be paid back.
You could be right about Stena Nordica (Malo Seaways) taking over the route. Her sisters have provided sterling service on the Larne - Cairnryan run. Stena too have expanded the passenger capacity by removing cabins, and installing a lounge towards the stern. I imagine its a better option than patching up Stena Europe.
Is their anyway Stena can get round the 35 year survey? Re flagging? Moby Lines have some fairly ancient vessels, King Orry (1975) is still in operation, and must surely be starting to show her age. The latter is under the Italian registry.
You can keep an old ship going forever - there are increased costs to doing so but as long as the ship is well looked after (as, by and large, the Europe is) there is nothing to legally oblige you to retire a ship. But you will need to continue to pile the money into survey costs and any costs from updating the ship for new safety regulations etc. As long as critical components or systems don't start to fail they can plod on.
And the amounts needed to be spent will pretty much always be significantly less than the capital cost of a more modern ship. A quick guesstimate based on Stena's accounting policies and projected acquisition value of the then 4-year old European Ambassador plus amounts spent modifying her since indicate her annual depreciation might be in the region of £1.5 to £2m per year. Could the route accounts for Fishguard-Rosslare cope with being loaded with that when the Europe's depreciation costs will be fairly close to zero, especially when they will either have to spend more money uprating the Nordica or have to turn passengers away due to her lower pax capacity at certain times of the year?
I'm not saying it's never going to happen as Stena always play a very long and sometimes surprising game, and the newer ship will possibly generate better loadings and should definitely achieve genuine cash cost savings, especially on fuel (presumably) and on maintenance; but given Fishguard is always highlighted as a borderline profitable route and IF aren't quite there for the taking like P&O were in Cairnryan, placing the Nordica onto it is not the easiest decision to take.
The then Stena Nordica was apparently rejected by Fishguard - Rosslare route management before she went to DFDS, I don't see any change in the situation that may indicate a u-turn on that. As HHV says, Europe is paid for and depreciated. Not only would significant expenditure be required to make Malo Seaways more suitable, but she isn't the cheapest vessel to run either.
Hopefully all will go well with Europe and she gets a clean bill of health, and/or the bills aren't too significant. While Stena aren't broke, they aren't stupid either. As for reflagging, she'd still have to meet MCA standards in any case.
Quote from: Steven on December 31, 2015, 10:11:13 PM
A source had told me a couple of months ago that Malo Seaways would be staying with DFDS until at least the end of her charter, but plans change. I believe she IS rather thirsty though, and DFDS did carry out a lot of work to her - not just to the bow and stern, but also converting the engines to run on MGO, as well as work in the galley and some new flooring in some spaces. She does very much remain a Stena ship inside though. We'll probably find out for sure soon enough, but I can think of at least one route were she would be very welcome...
I am led to believe the reversion of the flag to the UK was a measure to reduce crewing costs with her French crew going across to one of the "new" ships.
Would like to see Nordica back at Holyhead. Wasn't there talk of a third ship on D-H?
Anybody else heard of problems with Stena Rail & Sail at Dublin Port in the last couple of days?
Quote from: HSS on January 03, 2016, 09:45:30 PM
Anybody else heard of problems with Stena Rail & Sail at Dublin Port in the last couple of days?
Twitter suggests about 100 passengers were refused passage as the vessel was overbooked on Saturday.
Quote from: hhvferry on January 03, 2016, 04:14:49 PM
You can keep an old ship going forever - there are increased costs to doing so but as long as the ship is well looked after (as, by and large, the Europe is) there is nothing to legally oblige you to retire a ship. But you will need to continue to pile the money into survey costs and any costs from updating the ship for new safety regulations etc. As long as critical components or systems don't start to fail they can plod on.
And the amounts needed to be spent will pretty much always be significantly less than the capital cost of a more modern ship. A quick guesstimate based on Stena's accounting policies and projected acquisition value of the then 4-year old European Ambassador plus amounts spent modifying her since indicate her annual depreciation might be in the region of £1.5 to £2m per year. Could the route accounts for Fishguard-Rosslare cope with being loaded with that when the Europe's depreciation costs will be fairly close to zero, especially when they will either have to spend more money uprating the Nordica or have to turn passengers away due to her lower pax capacity at certain times of the year?
I'm not saying it's never going to happen as Stena always play a very long and sometimes surprising game, and the newer ship will possibly generate better loadings and should definitely achieve genuine cash cost savings, especially on fuel (presumably) and on maintenance; but given Fishguard is always highlighted as a borderline profitable route and IF aren't quite there for the taking like P&O were in Cairnryan, placing the Nordica onto it is not the easiest decision to take.
A friend has suggested that the Fishguard route may be in doubt later this year and the company will concentrate on the much more lucrative Ireland - France route.
Arriva Trains drivers are going on strike so maybe causing a few issues.
Some Interesting images of the Stena Danica in drydock in Gdansk, getting new propellers and bulbous bow amongst other jobs
http://www.instagramposts.com/user/ellenelinor/47404811
https://www.facebook.com/stenadanica/photos/pcb.1060434470655277/1060432667322124/?type=3&theater
Stena Flavia on the way to Rosslare, expected to arrive on Jan 12th at 21.00 to release Stena Horizon to go to H&W for a drydock and refurbishment, hopefully it will get the hull branding it has been missing since it joined the fleet.
The Flavia will stay in Rosslare as the Horizon will then go to Dublin to cover the Superfast X and Adventurer, Superfast X then goes to North Channel to cover the VII and VIII.
Does anyone have dates the stena horizon will be on Dublin Holyhead route?
Will she follow the adventure or superfast schedule?
Quote from: Normandy on January 10, 2016, 11:06:30 AM
Does anyone have dates the stena horizon will be on Dublin Holyhead route?
Will she follow the adventure or superfast schedule?
From my earlier post ;)
QuoteOn Stena Horizon's arrival at Dublin, Stena Superfast X will have an in water survey from 28/1/16 until 30/1/16. She will then leave for Belfast to cover the refits of Stena Superfast VIII and VII, returning to Holyhead on 16/2/16 and onto Stena Adventurer's schedule until 7/3/16 when the ships will revert to their own schedules on Stena Adventurer's return from Belfast. Stena Adventurer will visit Harland and Wolff from 16/2/16 until 7/3/16.
She will follow X's schedule.
Quote from: PaddyL on January 03, 2016, 10:26:07 PM
Quote from: hhvferry on January 03, 2016, 04:14:49 PM
You can keep an old ship going forever - there are increased costs to doing so but as long as the ship is well looked after (as, by and large, the Europe is) there is nothing to legally oblige you to retire a ship. But you will need to continue to pile the money into survey costs and any costs from updating the ship for new safety regulations etc. As long as critical components or systems don't start to fail they can plod on.
And the amounts needed to be spent will pretty much always be significantly less than the capital cost of a more modern ship. A quick guesstimate based on Stena's accounting policies and projected acquisition value of the then 4-year old European Ambassador plus amounts spent modifying her since indicate her annual depreciation might be in the region of £1.5 to £2m per year. Could the route accounts for Fishguard-Rosslare cope with being loaded with that when the Europe's depreciation costs will be fairly close to zero, especially when they will either have to spend more money uprating the Nordica or have to turn passengers away due to her lower pax capacity at certain times of the year?
I'm not saying it's never going to happen as Stena always play a very long and sometimes surprising game, and the newer ship will possibly generate better loadings and should definitely achieve genuine cash cost savings, especially on fuel (presumably) and on maintenance; but given Fishguard is always highlighted as a borderline profitable route and IF aren't quite there for the taking like P&O were in Cairnryan, placing the Nordica onto it is not the easiest decision to take.
A friend has suggested that the Fishguard route may be in doubt later this year and the company will concentrate on the much more lucrative Ireland - France route.
It wouldn't surprise me. I keep hearing reports of a handful (literally) of freight units onboard some sailings.
It has been reported on dfe.boards.net that Stena Nordica will be returned to Stena (I assume Ro-Ro) at the end of February when the former Seafrance/MFL ships enter service. Source accredited to the DFDS staff newsletter.
From DFDS Weekly newsletter:
QuoteFor technical and legal reasons MALO SEAWAYS had to be reflagged from the French to
the UK flag already on 29 December to prepare for re-delivery to Stena when CÔTES
DES DUNES and CÔTES DES FLANDRES arrive on the Calais–Dover route in February.
Read more: http://dfe.boards.net/thread/490/berlioz-rodin-dfds?page=10#ixzz3wqDXFAIn
Stena Lagan is currently in dry-dock at Harland and Wolff, in a repeat of Stena Mersey's dry-docking last week. She will be back in service for tomorrow nights sailing to Birkenhead.
Quote from: Steven on January 10, 2016, 11:47:07 AM
Quote from: PaddyL on January 03, 2016, 10:26:07 PM
Quote from: hhvferry on January 03, 2016, 04:14:49 PM
You can keep an old ship going forever - there are increased costs to doing so but as long as the ship is well looked after (as, by and large, the Europe is) there is nothing to legally oblige you to retire a ship. But you will need to continue to pile the money into survey costs and any costs from updating the ship for new safety regulations etc. As long as critical components or systems don't start to fail they can plod on.
And the amounts needed to be spent will pretty much always be significantly less than the capital cost of a more modern ship. A quick guesstimate based on Stena's accounting policies and projected acquisition value of the then 4-year old European Ambassador plus amounts spent modifying her since indicate her annual depreciation might be in the region of £1.5 to £2m per year. Could the route accounts for Fishguard-Rosslare cope with being loaded with that when the Europe's depreciation costs will be fairly close to zero, especially when they will either have to spend more money uprating the Nordica or have to turn passengers away due to her lower pax capacity at certain times of the year?
I'm not saying it's never going to happen as Stena always play a very long and sometimes surprising game, and the newer ship will possibly generate better loadings and should definitely achieve genuine cash cost savings, especially on fuel (presumably) and on maintenance; but given Fishguard is always highlighted as a borderline profitable route and IF aren't quite there for the taking like P&O were in Cairnryan, placing the Nordica onto it is not the easiest decision to take.
A friend has suggested that the Fishguard route may be in doubt later this year and the company will concentrate on the much more lucrative Ireland - France route.
It wouldn't surprise me. I keep hearing reports of a handful (literally) of freight units onboard some sailings.
With respect I'm not sure if this continuous speculation/undercurrent of anticipating route closures is either helpful or warranted. While the market dictates a lot in terms of economics when a route closes it certainly does also reflect on the port authorities and shipping management and whether they did their best or not.
From Stena Line
QuoteStena Line Irish Sea Fleet prepares for refit programme.
An extensive refit programme for the Area Irish Sea fleet has commenced with the majority of work being carried out at the world famous Harland and Wolff shipyard in Belfast.
First vessel into the yard was the Stena Mersey on 4th Jan which will be followed this weekend by the Stena Lagan on 10th Jan. This year, the Stena Flavia will be the designated refit cover vessel for the duration of the refit programme.
Stena Flavia will leave the Baltics on 9 January enroute to Rosslare and will take up servce on the Rosslare to Cherbourg route from 14th Jan until 6th March replacing Stena Horizon .
Stena Horizon will visit Harland and Wolff from 14 Jan to 28 Jan, after which she will cover the Dublin to Holyhead route covering the Stena Superfast X and Stena Adventurer dockings until approximately 6th March.
When the Stena Horizon arrives in Dublin, Stena Superfast X will leave for Belfast and will have an inwater survey and then cover the refits of Stena Superfast V11 and Stena Superfast V111 returning to Holyhead on 16th Feb.
Stena Adventurer will visit Harland and Wolff from 16th Feb to 6th March.
Stena Superfast VII and Stena Superfast VIII will also visit Harland and Wolff this year - Stena Superfast VIII will go dry dock first with the longer refit period from 1st Feb until 14th Feb. Stena Superfast VII will visit the shipyard from 14th Feb- 16th Feb , cover for both vessels will be provided by Stena Superfast X.
Stena Europe will be the only vessel in the fleet not visiting Harland and Wolff, instead she will be visiting A&P Falmouth from 16th Feb to 5th March and this route will be covered by a space charter with Irish Ferries
Rumours in Gothenburg of an expected announcement by Stena Line in relation to the Fredrickshaven route and major investment in the route, of course the Danica is currently getting a major refit which is very comprehensive for a vessel the same age as the Europe, wonder what else will be announced.
Also Stena Flavia's ais on Marine Traffic has been very erratic recently and is now up as Leopard for some strange reason, the ships progress to Rosslare can still be tracked on under that name.
With Malo Seaways, the former Stena Nordica due to be returned to Stena RoRo in early March, will Stena Line Irish Sea reacquire the former central corridor vessel, could be a handy ship to provide extra capacity on central corridor, open a route from Dublin - France, possibly with the Euro's provide a daily service to France along with Stena Horizon, or even swap into Fishguard for a few weeks and allow Europe to provide France services when Euro's are on, or even open a Rosslare Spain service ?
Most options go against Stenas mostly short sea operations but you never know ?
As the Irish Economic recovery continues some creative thinking could be ?
Just been on Stena site to book a day trip for Horizon when she comes to Dublin (not been on her) but the cheap day trips have vanished only thing on offer is the 24 hour return at €44, just out of interest I then checked Irish Ferries and no surprise the day trips have vanished from their site as well. These two companies do not compete on any front, times, prices, special offers etc are all the same I think Michael O'Leary once described the services out of Dublin Airport provided by Aer Lingus and British Airways as a "Duopoly" and I think that is exactly what is going on with IF and Stena and they will both be the biggest obstacle to any new operator on the Irish Sea.
Quote from: ferryfan on January 11, 2016, 11:53:51 AM
Just been on Stena site to book a day trip for Horizon when she comes to Dublin (not been on her) but the cheap day trips have vanished only thing on offer is the 24 hour return at €44, just out of interest I then checked Irish Ferries and no surprise the day trips have vanished from their site as well. These two companies do not compete on any front, times, prices, special offers etc are all the same I think Michael O'Leary once described the services out of Dublin Airport provided by Aer Lingus and British Airways as a "Duopoly" and I think that is exactly what is going on with IF and Stena and they will both be the biggest obstacle to any new operator on the Irish Sea.
€44 doesn't seem unreasonable??
It certainly does when the previous rate for a day trip (foot passenger) was approx €14 and when you can still get a return day trip ex Belfast to Glasgow for €12 return including coach transfer.
Stena Flavia just passing Isle Of White, AIS name correct at the moment
Quote from: ferryfan on January 11, 2016, 12:50:15 PM
It certainly does when the previous rate for a day trip (foot passenger) was approx €14 and when you can still get a return day trip ex Belfast to Glasgow for €12 return including coach transfer.
Given Horizons lower passenger certificate, I doubt they have space for loss leader fares!
They could easily have done as IF do with Epsilon and decided not to take footies during her spell on Holyhead.
Stena Adventurer has fallen foul to the bad weather missing this mornings crossing, Swift also cancelled, but all other sailings running albeit IOI was a bit late. Adventurer is currently circling off the Wicklow coast so Superfast X can use the berth.
Stena Flavia has arrived at Rosslare, the Europe and Horizon are still in port along with Oscar Wilde, assume they will switch some crew from Horizon to Flavia along with some stores to cater for local tastes, probably not much call for full Irish in the Baltic.
Horizon then off to Belfast for refit.
Quote from: giftgrub on January 12, 2016, 09:23:31 PM
Stena Flavia has arrived at Rosslare, the Europe and Horizon are still in port along with Oscar Wilde, assume they will switch some crew from Horizon to Flavia along with some stores to cater for local tastes, probably not much call for full Irish in the Baltic.
Horizon then off to Belfast for refit.
Im told many of the crew on Horizon will be from the Dublin ships when she operates from Dublin.
Yes in Past when Nordica came from Gdynia route to cover Fishguard it was a combination of Local and Fishguard staff. So guess same will apply.
Stena Horizon Sailed to Cherbourg last night and now is approaching that port,
I assume Stena Flavia will take the sailing from Rosslare tomorrow evening.
Quote from: IFPete on January 13, 2016, 01:12:17 PM
Stena Horizon Sailed to Cherbourg last night and now is approaching that port,
I assume Stena Flavia will take the sailing from Rosslare tomorrow evening.
She should do. Stena Horizon is expected at Harland and Wolff tomorrow. Alas it will probably be dark by the time she gets up here, so probably not much opportunity for photos :(
Quote from: Steven on January 13, 2016, 02:33:29 PM
Quote from: IFPete on January 13, 2016, 01:12:17 PM
Stena Horizon Sailed to Cherbourg last night and now is approaching that port,
I assume Stena Flavia will take the sailing from Rosslare tomorrow evening.
She should do. Stena Horizon is expected at Harland and Wolff tomorrow. Alas it will probably be dark by the time she gets up here, so probably not much opportunity for photos :(
I hope you can get a photo of the front of her.
There was damage to the front windows there after christmas just where the restaurant is (supposedly due to the storm, so maybe a rogue wave ?) but I didnt get a picture. The front of the lounge by the restaurant was closed off to stop you sitting near the "window" and the bits of roof hanging down, but the restaurant was operating as per normal.
Will the Stena Horizon received the full Stena line livery? as she only had the funnel painted. The other questions is the Fishguard to Rosslare carry fairly goods loadings? Because there are a flew who still use that route to Ireland. I know I will use Stena line to Ireland this year.
Does anybody know if Stena have extended the charter on this ship, if memory serves, I though Celtic Link had taken this ship on a 5 year charter?
Quote from: Ian Walker on January 13, 2016, 08:02:52 PM
Will the Stena Horizon received the full Stena line livery? as she only had the funnel painted. The other questions is the Fishguard to Rosslare carry fairly goods loadings? Because there are a flew who still use that route to Ireland. I know I will use Stena line to Ireland this year.
Unfortunately Fishguard doesn't carry anywhere near good loads for most of the year. Hence the practice in recent years of simply chartering space on Isle of Inishmore. I believe she can more than accommodate the additional traffic.
Horizon is in for 2 weeks, so its quite possible she could get a full repaint and perhaps even refurbishment. Haven't heard any details of the work to be done on her as of yet. They are a fairly handy ship to have, hence why Stena either own or operate 10 of them! Of course, if they were to make any changes they would need the consent of Caronte and Tourist first.
Quote from: munchkin on January 13, 2016, 03:47:58 PM
Quote from: Steven on January 13, 2016, 02:33:29 PM
Quote from: IFPete on January 13, 2016, 01:12:17 PM
Stena Horizon Sailed to Cherbourg last night and now is approaching that port,
I assume Stena Flavia will take the sailing from Rosslare tomorrow evening.
She should do. Stena Horizon is expected at Harland and Wolff tomorrow. Alas it will probably be dark by the time she gets up here, so probably not much opportunity for photos :(
I hope you can get a photo of the front of her.
There was damage to the front windows there after christmas just where the restaurant is (supposedly due to the storm, so maybe a rogue wave ?) but I didnt get a picture. The front of the lounge by the restaurant was closed off to stop you sitting near the "window" and the bits of roof hanging down, but the restaurant was operating as per normal.
I'll certainly try. We are quite lucky in that there are a couple of spots where we can get the ships from the front here, unfortunately not quite head on though. To be fair, with the big dry-docking so close it was hardly worth taking her off service to fix some relatively minor damage. At least nobody was seriously injured.
Quote from: ferryfan on January 13, 2016, 10:17:20 PM
Does anybody know if Stena have extended the charter on this ship, if memory serves, I though Celtic Link had taken this ship on a 5 year charter?
I believe her charter is due to expire soon (October 16?), but wouldn't be surprised if Stena extended the charter or even purchased her (if available for the right price).
Stena Horizon arrived in Belfast this morning, and is currently dry-docked at Harland and Wolff. Here she is arriving this morning
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/t31.0-8/12489269_959761770777603_687520070311614339_o.jpg)
Photo posted on facebook by Diane Poole, Stena Line takeover Rosslare.
For the first time, three Stena Line ferries are docked in Rosslare Harbour.
Stena Horizon, Stena Flavia and the legendary Stena Europe.
Maybe Stena Flavia will replace the Epsilon when she goes off lease.
Quote from: IFPete on January 15, 2016, 11:35:01 PM
Maybe Stena Flavia will replace the Epsilon when she goes off lease.
Highly unlikely that Stena would drydock Horizon for two weeks and then hand back in October, I would imagine they will either buy the vessel or extend charter.
I Wonder if they will upgrade Stena Horizon to same specification as Stena Mersey and Stena Lagan,
Great photos Steven, Giftgrub and diane :)
Quote from: IFPete on January 15, 2016, 11:35:01 PM
Maybe Stena Flavia will replace the Epsilon when she goes off lease.
I think she is needed in the Baltic TBH, as Gothica will be needed back in Gothenburg. Stena could always decided to purchase Horizon anyway. Depends on what (if?) she's available for - a deal could have already been agreed for all we know.
Been a while since ive been on here some interesting reading. As regards the Ex Stena Nordica I do have a sneaky feeling she will be back in Stena Clours in the not too distant future. If she comes back to Holyhead she is tried and tested fits both berths and is very reliable. She is a thirsty ship mind so if she was on a freight only mode she can be slowed down to save fuel, when we took her to Fishguard to cover the Stena Europe half the time we only used one big engine and that was enough.
She too good a ship for stena to get rid of completely and of course she has the higher deck height compared to SFX so it might temp hauliers back from other routes.
As for the Horizon I think shell be with Stena for a good years yet, she's very cheap to run and very reliable and does the job she has to well
Port transfer letter showing Superfast X moving to Ocean Pier 33 at 13.00 with request for workboat, Stena website not showing any delay to afternoon 15.10 sailing. Anybody got any details?
Annual MES LIfe boat deployment
Thanks "Sea"
Photo updates posted on web this week
https://www.facebook.com/jakub.bogucki/media_set?set=a.1249302158429988.1073741866.100000506486027&type=3&pnref=story
Images of Stena Scandinavica in dry Dock Rementowa.
Also hundreds of new images on Scott Mackeys Flickr site including
Stena Germanica
Stena Jutlandica
Stena Nautica
Stena Saga
Stena Carisma
And
Isle of Inishmore (half sister to Stena Jutlandica)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey
I notice a lot of people referrring to the high running costs of this ship and was wondering if anybody knows if the conversion to run on marine gas oil, which was carried out by DFDS at Damen shipyard Dunkerque prior to her entering service, would have any impact on operating costs?
Behind the scenes onboard the Stena Vision.
Plenty of engine room images from one of the bigger Stena Vessels
http://www.landgangen.se/forum/index.php?topic=34119.0
Great link, thanks giftgrub
Perhaps of interest to some of you, NIFS will be covering the Stena Irish Sea refits on this page. There will be ongoing updates.
(please feel free to submit any photographs of Stena Flavia or Stena Horizon operating away from their usual routes, or indeed any of the visitors to Belfast/Falmouth, via the contact link in the menu. Full credit will be given as always.)
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when superfast x comes to cairnryan lots of decker traffic wont fit on given deck heights interesting to see how much transfers to p and o and how much sits and waits for v11 or v111
Stena Horizon on booking engine from Saturday Jan 30th taking over Stena Superfast X sailings on Dublin - Holyhead route as part of 2016 refit schedule.
Will be nice to see the repainted ship back in service, would assume full hull branding is being applied while in H&W.
Quote from: giftgrub on January 25, 2016, 10:49:23 PM
Stena Horizon on booking engine from Saturday Jan 30th taking over Stena Superfast X sailings on Dublin - Holyhead route as part of 2016 refit schedule.
Will be nice to see the repainted ship back in service, would assume full hull branding is being applied while in H&W.
Stena Horizon's dry-docking period in Belfast appears to have been extended, with her planned departure on Wednesday morning having been put back by two days according to the Belfast harbour website. This means she will not be in Dublin until Friday afternoon/evening. I assume as a result Stena Superfast X's in-water survey will be delayed and thus her release to cover for the North Channel twins.
As for the livery, no word yet. If she were to emerge in Stena Line livery (and I hope to be there to capture her departure on camera), then it would probably indicate that her charter will be renewed (or indeed that she will be purchased).
Are they likely to remain the europe? Stena use to keep her in very good condition but now she has rust on her fairy often
Quote from: welsh weather on January 26, 2016, 07:23:49 PM
Are they likely to remain the europe? Stena use to keep her in very good condition but now she has rust on her fairy often
Stena Europe is off to Falmouth for a major refurb in February, big spend due to take place on mechanicals and metalwork along with full repaint from top to bottom apparently, would have been to H&W Belfast but they were unable to accommodate Adventurer and Europe at same time.
Quote from: giftgrub on January 26, 2016, 07:55:23 PM
Quote from: welsh weather on January 26, 2016, 07:23:49 PM
Are they likely to remain the europe? Stena use to keep her in very good condition but now she has rust on her fairy often
Stena Europe is off to Falmouth for a major refurb in February, big spend due to take place on mechanicals and metalwork along with full repaint from top to bottom apparently, would have been to H&W Belfast but they were unable to accommodate Adventurer and Europe at same time.
Sounds like she will be on Fishguard route until she can sail no more!
Quote from: PaddyL on January 26, 2016, 08:48:02 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on January 26, 2016, 07:55:23 PM
Quote from: welsh weather on January 26, 2016, 07:23:49 PM
Are they likely to remain the europe? Stena use to keep her in very good condition but now she has rust on her fairy often
Stena Europe is off to Falmouth for a major refurb in February, big spend due to take place on mechanicals and metalwork along with full repaint from top to bottom apparently, would have been to H&W Belfast but they were unable to accommodate Adventurer and Europe at same time.
Sounds like she will be on Fishguard route until she can sail no more!
Yup. Sounds like someone has decided it is cheaper to keep an asset that has long since been paid for running rather than investing in newer tonnage.
Stena Horizon will not be getting Stena Line hull branding during her current dry-docking spell. She has however got a fresh coat of paint.
Quote from: Steven on January 26, 2016, 11:03:28 PM
Quote from: PaddyL on January 26, 2016, 08:48:02 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on January 26, 2016, 07:55:23 PM
Quote from: welsh weather on January 26, 2016, 07:23:49 PM
Are they likely to remain the europe? Stena use to keep her in very good condition but now she has rust on her fairy often
I expect the same will happen with Oscar Wilde.
Stena Europe is off to Falmouth for a major refurb in February, big spend due to take place on mechanicals and metalwork along with full repaint from top to bottom apparently, would have been to H&W Belfast but they were unable to accommodate Adventurer and Europe at same time.
Sounds like she will be on Fishguard route until she can sail no more!
Yup. Sounds like someone has decided it is cheaper to keep an asset that has long since been paid for running rather than investing in newer tonnage.
Stena Europe is going to need her cabin blocks refurbished or replaced if she is to stay in service long term , a lot of her cabins are in a very poor state with non working showers , leaking toilet blocks , rattling ceiling panels , loose doors , loose locks , creaking beds , poor lighting (where it works) and worn out carpets , while I understand that cabins are not an essential on a short crossing , there are a not insignificant number who will decide to "throw the head down for a few hours" on the crossing , was very surprised an the condition of Stena Europe's cabins given how well maintained the public area's are.
They are from when the ship was made I believe and I think Stena cannot justify updating all the cabins - maybe half of them at the most?
Maybe there is scope to do so if they use the ferry on Cherbourg route in the summer.
Quote from: IFPete on January 27, 2016, 08:32:51 PM
Maybe there is scope to do so if they use the ferry on Cherbourg route in the summer.
Why would they want to? Nothing wrong with Horizon!
Quote from: Collision-course on January 27, 2016, 06:52:48 PM
Stena Europe is going to need her cabin blocks refurbished or replaced if she is to stay in service long term , a lot of her cabins are in a very poor state with non working showers , leaking toilet blocks , rattling ceiling panels , loose doors , loose locks , creaking beds , poor lighting (where it works) and worn out carpets , while I understand that cabins are not an essential on a short crossing , there are a not insignificant number who will decide to "throw the head down for a few hours" on the crossing , was very surprised an the condition of Stena Europe's cabins given how well maintained the public area's are.
Are we talking about the same Stena Europe? I've never had a problem myself with any of the areas including the cabins. What you describe sounds like an elderly Greek ferry rather than one which operates to the UK.
She is certainly in better condition than some younger ships on the Irish Sea (Like European Endeavour which I thought was filthy in the public areas). Certainly she was looking good a few weeks ago when I was on her except for the inevitable bits of rust which I am sure will be put right.
Is this an anti-Stena site? They Sen to get a lot of criticism.
More than possible for them to carry out a cabin refit in service if necessary, I think they don't use the inside cabins anymore only the outside with windows, could close off a block and refurb as they go, if the life extending refit goes well we could see more investment in areas previously ignored as all passenger areas are A1.
Bear in mind that Stena Europe's keel was laid almost 40 years ago and the ship has racked up 35 years of near continuous service (an impressive feat for any vessel these days) and in all that time her cabins have had only cosmetic changes , and this does show , I get cabins on Stena vessels a lot and Stena Europes cabins are poor by comparison (even to those on other Irish sea vessels) , as I have always said Stena vessels are ALWAYS clean and well presented and Stena Europe is no exception , the cabin while in poor condition was spotlessly clean , I am a fan of classic design cruise ferries and Stena Europe is a beauty , but her age is showing in many area's , most notably in operations , ferries of her era do not cope well with rough weather (Oscar Wilde was pulled out of service for weather reasons long before Stena Europe was) and as climate change takes hold she will increasingly fall victim to adverse weather cancellation through no fault of her own.
If Stena Europe is to remain in service long term then she will need substantial money spent on her , Stena is already spending huge amounts on her upkeep but as a long term proposition a lot more will need to be spent , my estimate is a ball park of €10-15 million would see her right for another 5-10 years service at Stena Line's usual standard of vessel.
I agree Stena Europe has far more cabins than needed for that crossing , and as the ship is unlikely to be redeployed within the Stena Group then perhaps removing the surplus cabins are refurbishing the number actually required would be the way to go.
On a final note I am most certainly not anti-Stena , and I would never insult Stena Europe or Stena Line by comparing it to a Greek inter-island rust bucket.
Posted on the Facebook tonight by Diane Pool
The Stena Horizon is currently taking a break from her Rosslare-Cherbourg duties to undergo a refit programme at Belfast's Harland and Wolff shipyard which will last the vessel for 36 months. The vessel will be in dry dock for a total of fourteen days and during that time a number of key maintenance and upgrade works will be carried out including two propulsion shafts being removed and machine liners fitted with new seals; both bow thrusters overhauled and both rudders removed and fitted with new seals as well as both stabilisers being overhauled.
While the Stena Horizon is in dry dock the opportunity will also be taken to repaint the entire hull including a full antifouling system to ensure future fuel efficiency; stern door line bore all hinges and install new pins; lifeboat hooks replaced to new standard; a 10 yearly overhaul of CO2 system as well as a 10 yearly test on all LSA.
There will also be a range of passenger accommodation refurbishment works carried out on the vessels before the ship returns to service in Rosslare on 8th March including new public toilets on Deck 5 along with the kids play area on the same deck; a new wall bubble with two interactive LED screens; new flooring in the cinema and lounge as well two Captain Class cabins and new upholstery in the Truckers Lounge and Restaurant.
Ian Davies Route Manager ISS said" Since acquiring the Rosslare- Cherbourg Route in 2014 it has grown from strength to strength. We have achieved good continuous growth in Freight, despite new competition in the market. A new contract for the carriage of trade cars and chassis units has further increased capacity utilization. The demand for Travel is very strong in the summer months and we are looking to develop the Travel market in shoulder seasons. Key to this success has been the Stena Horizon and the flexibility it offers on such a long route. Some refurbishment work will maintain standards on-board and together with the excellent customer service provided by the crew I see a positive future for this Route."
www.facebook.com
Ferries and Ships of the Irish Sea group
Also on the same site, images of the freshly painted Stena Horizon, despite doing all the work, the broken front windows have not been replaced or the front of the ships superstructure painted, they have another day to get the shipping equivalent of Senator Windows in to do the work.
Some Images of Horizon in dry dock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/24307024849/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/24648495256/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/24556918862/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/24648483446/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/24306998729/in/photostream/
Would be surprised to see Stena Horizon leaving drydock tomorrow, would be strange if it returned to service without having the windows replaced.
Quote from: giftgrub on January 28, 2016, 09:32:04 PM
Would be surprised to see Stena Horizon leaving drydock tomorrow, would be strange if it returned to service without having the windows replaced.
Word is she won't be. Still showing on Belfast Harbour's website as leaving tomorrow though.
The following was posted earlier by Diane Poole to Facebook:
QuoteThe Stena Horizon is currently taking a break from her Rosslare-Cherbourg duties to undergo a refit programme at Belfast's Harland and Wolff shipyard which will last the vessel for 36 months. The vessel will be in dry dock for a total of fourteen days and during that time a number of key maintenance and upgrade works will be carried out including two propulsion shafts being removed and machine liners fitted with new seals; both bow thrusters overhauled and both rudders removed and fitted with new seals as well as both stabilisers being overhauled.
While the Stena Horizon is in dry dock the opportunity will also be taken to repaint the entire hull including a full antifouling system to ensure future fuel efficiency; stern door line bore all hinges and install new pins; lifeboat hooks replaced to new standard; a 10 yearly overhaul of CO2 system as well as a 10 yearly test on all LSA.
There will also be a range of passenger accommodation refurbishment works carried out on the vessels before the ship returns to service in Rosslare on 8th March including new public toilets on Deck 5 along with the kids play area on the same deck; a new wall bubble with two interactive LED screens; new flooring in the cinema and lounge as well two Captain Class cabins and new upholstery in the Truckers Lounge and Restaurant.
Ian Davies Route Manager ISS said" Since acquiring the Rosslare- Cherbourg Route in 2014 it has grown from strength to strength. We have achieved good continuous growth in Freight, despite new competition in the market. A new contract for the carriage of trade cars and chassis units has further increased capacity utilization. The demand for Travel is very strong in the summer months and we are looking to develop the Travel market in shoulder seasons. Key to this success has been the Stena Horizon and the flexibility it offers on such a long route. Some refurbishment work will maintain standards on-board and together with the excellent customer service provided by the crew I see a positive future for this Route."
Theres some pictures of her in the dry-dock at www.flickr.com/scottmackey .
Stena Horizon left Belfast after 6pm this evening, and is now en-route to Holyhead where she will release Stena Superfast X. SSF X expected in Belfast on Wednesday to release SSF VIII and SSF VII in turn for dry-docking at Harland & Wolff. First sailing for SSF X on the booking engine appears to be the 15:30 ex Belfast. Sunday's 20:30 ex Holyhead will be Stena Superfast X's first sailing on the Dublin route.
with dry dock cover being superfastx it is a golden opportunity for pand o to get back some freight volume from stena as most n Ireland deckers cant go on superfast x
Quote from: market knowledge on January 31, 2016, 12:18:32 PM
with dry dock cover being superfastx it is a golden opportunity for pand o to get back some freight volume from stena as most n Ireland deckers cant go on superfast x
And therein lies one of the big future threats to P&O. It is rumoured Stena are looking at new ships for Belfast and these will surely have lots of high headroom. If those arrived, you imagine P&O would lose a lot of business to Belfast - Cairnryan.
I wonder how difficult it would be for P&O to reclaim land in Belfast near Stena and basically sell Larne to residential / commercial interests? It would allow P&O to directly compete, but naturally would cost the company a fortune. DP World however could assist as they do have deep pockets. Naturally this would likely be undertaken in alliance with Belfast Harbour Company.
Option B would be try and beat Stena on price.
Option C would ultimately mean having to close operations, leaving no competition, and lots of people out of work. Sadly this option may possibly happen if the group is under pressure. 2015 saw profits of £13 million, hopefully these should rise, but P&O certainly wont put the rest of the company in jeopardy to save Larne. Regarding a replacement company, I couldn't see anyone itching to take P&O's position.
Let's try to stay some bit on topic, Thread for Stena Line fleet movements
Stena Horizon arriving in Dublin for the first time in a few minutes, covering Superfast X
Quote from: TC on January 31, 2016, 10:58:10 PM
I wonder how difficult it would be for P&O to reclaim land in Belfast near Stena and basically sell Larne to residential / commercial interests? It would allow P&O to directly compete, but naturally would cost the company a fortune. DP World however could assist as they do have deep pockets. Naturally this would likely be undertaken in alliance with Belfast Harbour Company.
Option B would be try and beat Stena on price.
Option C would ultimately mean having to close operations, leaving no competition, and lots of people out of work. Sadly this option may possibly happen if the group is under pressure. 2015 saw profits of £13 million, hopefully these should rise, but P&O certainly wont put the rest of the company in jeopardy to save Larne. Regarding a replacement company, I couldn't see anyone itching to take P&O's position.
Option A - Do you really think the Belfast Harbour commissioners would destroy the excellent relationship they have with Stena, just to win a contract with an operator with a shrinking trade.
Option B - In which case Stena would retaliate with the same. They could even boost capacity if they wanted to really kill P&O off.
Option C - I wouldn't rule everyone out tbh. Its not like there isn't history of a different company making a route P&O has abandoned pay!
Quote from: giftgrub on January 31, 2016, 11:56:13 PM
Let's try to stay some bit on topic, Thread for Stena Line fleet movements
Agreed. Perhaps a new thread?
Quote from: giftgrub on January 31, 2016, 11:58:21 PM
Stena Horizon arriving in Dublin for the first time in a few minutes, covering Superfast X
Superfast X expected in service from Belfast on Wednesday, if Stena's online booking engine is to be believed.
Storm Imogen.
Very rough seas on the English Channel/Celtic Sea,AIS shows Stena Flavia diverted to Exmouth Bay for shelter almost directly on her departure from Cherbourg at 15:00 and has been there circling around for over an hour as of 23:00 AIS is showing her expected arrival in Rosslare now as 14:30 tomorrow as opposed to her scheduled arrival time of 08:15. Meanwhile Epsilon still en route and schedule in the same seas.
Stena Flavia still sheltering from Storm Imogen off Exmouth Epsilon crawled along the Devonshire coastline overnight and is currently sheltering in Barnstable Bay. Epsilon was due to make a Dublin-Rosslare run this afternoon. Rosslare Pemborke all sailings canceleld today as are all Swift sailings and this mornings Fishguard sailing
Meanwhile the North East Coast of Anglesey is starting to look like a marina with a collection of vessels including Norbay taking shelter from the storms
Quote from: ferryfan on February 08, 2016, 11:29:27 AM
Stena Flavia still sheltering from Storm Imogen off Exmouth Epsilon crawled along the Devonshire coastline overnight and is currently sheltering in Barnstable Bay. Epsilon was due to make a Dublin-Rosslare run this afternoon. Rosslare Pemborke all sailings canceleld today as are all Swift sailings and this mornings Fishguard sailing
Have been sheltering all day - why leave the safety of Cherbourg port in the first place?
Rosslare - France
Very high to phenomenal at first, decreasing rough to very rough by Tuesday.
Two factors.
1. To keep the customers freight moving - hauliers, unaccompanied / trailers.
2. Profit.
Stena Flavia leaving shelter now due into rosslare at 8:00 tomorrow morning. Epsilon still crawling around in Barnstable bay at 5-8 kts.
Quote from: HSS on February 08, 2016, 05:09:58 PM
Quote from: ferryfan on February 08, 2016, 11:29:27 AM
Stena Flavia still sheltering from Storm Imogen off Exmouth Epsilon crawled along the Devonshire coastline overnight and is currently sheltering in Barnstable Bay. Epsilon was due to make a Dublin-Rosslare run this afternoon. Rosslare Pemborke all sailings canceleld today as are all Swift sailings and this mornings Fishguard sailing
Have been sheltering all day - why leave the safety of Cherbourg port in the first place?
Rosslare - France
Very high to phenomenal at first, decreasing rough to very rough by Tuesday.
Things seemed pretty bad at Cherbourg as the Bretagne couldn't get in so that was probably part of it but also I think it was worse than forecast. No master would leave port if they thought there was any danger to his ship so I'm sure both ships left port with good intentions.
Quote from: HSS on February 08, 2016, 05:09:58 PM
Quote from: ferryfan on February 08, 2016, 11:29:27 AM
Stena Flavia still sheltering from Storm Imogen off Exmouth Epsilon crawled along the Devonshire coastline overnight and is currently sheltering in Barnstable Bay. Epsilon was due to make a Dublin-Rosslare run this afternoon. Rosslare Pemborke all sailings canceleld today as are all Swift sailings and this mornings Fishguard sailing
Have been sheltering all day - why leave the safety of Cherbourg port in the first place?
Rosslare - France
Very high to phenomenal at first, decreasing rough to very rough by Tuesday.
I wouldn't call it safety. High winds and waves and a heck of a lot of solid structures to get blown in to! Remember what happened to Napoléon Bonaparte when tied up in a storm!
Stena have released some more detail on the refit of Stena Superfast VIII. Some good upgrades IMHO.
QuoteStena Superfast VIII keeps Irish Sea refits on schedule
This week it's the turn of Stena Superfast VIII to visit dry dock at Harland & Wolff in Belfast and so far the programme is well on schedule which should see the vessel return to her duties on Monday 15th Feb, Superfast V11 will then head to Dry Dock for a short visit and Superfast X will continue to run on the Belfast – Cairnryan route.
During the refit all the relevant statutory surveys will be carried out commensurate with the vessel's 15 years of service. The dry dock time is also being utilised to complete maintenance and checks on all areas that remain underwater during normal service such as rudders, stabilisers, bow and stern thrusters. A full paint system will be applied to both the underwater area as well as the upper outer accommodation areas before which all areas will be fully prepped to a high standard to ensure that the paint remains in good condition until the next scheduled refit period.
Paul Grant, Route Manager (Irish Sea North) said: "We are delighted with the way our refit programme has progressed this year. Given the volume and complexity of the work that's required across our fleet it's a great testimony to the skills and experience of our shore and on board teams that we are sitting pretty much bang on schedule at present, despite the most challenging of weather conditions which have visited us recently. Great credit goes to all those involved in the planning and delivery of our refit project."
One of the more complex duties to be completed during the refit is the removal of the deck pillars on the upper car deck. This is quite an intricate and extensive project which requires considerable planning and naval architecture skills to spread the load while ensuring the rigidity and strength of the vessel remains, despite the removal of the pillars. On the OBS side of things, there are a number of modifications taking place including a refurbishment of the Spa, the provision of outside seating on Deck 10, 60" TVs installed in the Met Bar and a range of passenger lift upgrades.
Just some rumours, did hear that Stena Line might charter the El. Venizelos to replace the current one on the Rosslare-Cherbourg route.
Would be nice though to see the 3rd sister ship within the Stena fleet together with the Stena Spirit and Vision, the ship that was unfinished for couple of years and later cancelled by Stena Line, sadly the never finished 4th sister was scrapped in 2011 :-(
Quote from: seaman on February 12, 2016, 08:51:00 PM
Just some rumours, did hear that Stena Line might charter the El. Venizelos to replace the current one on the Rosslare-Cherbourg route.
Would be nice though to see the 3rd sister ship within the Stena fleet together with the Stena Spirit and Vision, the ship that was unfinished for couple of years and later cancelled by Stena Line, sadly the never finished 4th sister was scrapped in 2011 :-(
Unfortunately that will not be happening, the El Venizelos is not the most reliable ship in the world, would drink fuel compared to the Stena Horizon and has totally out of sync passenger capacity for a freight oriented route.
Quote from: giftgrub on February 12, 2016, 09:01:47 PM
Quote from: seaman on February 12, 2016, 08:51:00 PM
Just some rumours, did hear that Stena Line might charter the El. Venizelos to replace the current one on the Rosslare-Cherbourg route.
Would be nice though to see the 3rd sister ship within the Stena fleet together with the Stena Spirit and Vision, the ship that was unfinished for couple of years and later cancelled by Stena Line, sadly the never finished 4th sister was scrapped in 2011 :-(
Unfortunately that will not be happening, the El Venizelos is not the most reliable ship in the world, would drink fuel compared to the Stena Horizon and has totally out of sync passenger capacity for a freight oriented route.
This made me chuckle (no offence) for a number of reasons. Primarily, where would they put the freight? That a visentini is used on the route is no incident as they need the freight capacity (and the low operating costs help). If Horizon where to be replaced it'd most likely be with another Visentini or similar. That she is the second of the type on the route is no coincidence.
El Venizelos is not actually a sister to Spirit and Vision, and hasn't been since those pair left the yard. She was never finished in Poland after all (being completed at the 3rd yard she went to!) and is configured very differently. As giftgrub said she isn't exactly reliable, probably not helped by the fact she sat around for almost a decade before being completed. She is a bit of a fuel guzzler and IMO would need serious money spent to bring her up to the standard of Spirit and Vision.
Steven, just a little grammar niggle: it should be "if Stena Horizon WERE to be replaced" not "WHere to be replaced." Just a small thing, but can cause confusion in some sentences.. but love your posts, and keep them coming :-)
Like i said, just rumours though so i'm not taking anything as an offence :-)
Freight capacity would not be the biggest issue if they would remove all the cabins and the passenger space on deck 5 and 6 turning it to a car deck making bigger freight volume like on the Spirit/Vision.
Well, maybe too much off topic now.
Quote from: seaman on February 13, 2016, 10:39:46 AM
Like i said, just rumours though so i'm not taking anything as an offence :-)
Freight capacity would not be the biggest issue if they would remove all the cabins and the passenger space on deck 5 and 6 turning it to a car deck making bigger freight volume like on the Spirit/Vision.
Well, maybe too much off topic now.
Still a lot of expenditure on what has been a very problematic ship though. In any case the net result would be a similar freight capacity to Horizon but with much higher running costs. If taken on a charter chances are there would be restrictions placed on the work which could be done on her anyway. Its a shame Horizon hasn't been able to be brought quite up to the standard of Lagan/Mersey. If so I'm sure she would be an excellent ship for the run (not that she isn't already well suited anyway).
It seems Stena Nordica is heading for the Med.................................http://www.ship2shore.it/en/shipping/a-scandinavian-ship-for-gnv_60287.htm
Quote from: Collision-course on February 15, 2016, 08:26:02 PM
It seems Stena Nordica is heading for the Med.................................http://www.ship2shore.it/en/shipping/a-scandinavian-ship-for-gnv_60287.htm
Well we did not see that coming, and for 20,000 euro a day to charter !
In other news
Stena Europe is off on annual vacation tonight, heading for Falmouth for the biggest refit and technical upgrade its had in a long time.
I presume the refit is all on the technical side with her accommodation remaining unchanged?
She was in Rosslare well before 6 tonight and it appears the Isle of Inishmore (inbound from Pembroke Dock) had to circle off the harbour for a short time until she vacated the Inishmore's usual berth.
I wonder is this just put down to experience or if Irish Ferries would receive a slight reduction in berthing fees from the port authority as a result.
Epsilon and Stena Flavia were also in port.
Stena Horizon having trouble getting into Dublin Port this afternoon she has been circling off Howth for over an hour now
Quote from: ferryfan on February 16, 2016, 01:17:27 PM
Stena Horizon having trouble getting into Dublin Port this afternoon she has been circling off Howth for over an hour now
Issue with one of the Anchors according to the facebook posts.
Europe in Falmouth since around 7.45 this morning, just visible on webcam at the back right of the image
http://www.nmmc.co.uk/index.php?/justvisiting/webcams/falmouth_harbour_from_the_tower_out_to_sea
Norman Asturias has been chartered by Stena RoRo to Attica/Anek lines
https://mobile.twitter.com/WestlingPer/status/694985141286993920
http://www.stenaroro.com/offering/Pages/Fleetlist.aspx
I remember there was talk of the Stena Horizon being replaced on the Rosslare-Cherbourgh route. Is Norman Asturias her possible replacement?
Not now as its gone on charter to Attica/Anek
Quote from: giftgrub on February 15, 2016, 08:37:40 PM
Quote from: Collision-course on February 15, 2016, 08:26:02 PM
It seems Stena Nordica is heading for the Med.................................http://www.ship2shore.it/en/shipping/a-scandinavian-ship-for-gnv_60287.htm
Well we did not see that coming, and for 20,000 euro a day to charter !
In other news
Stena Europe is off on annual vacation tonight, heading for Falmouth for the biggest refit and technical upgrade its had in a long time.
Some of us did, though this has yet to be officially confirmed. Nordica/Malo Seaways is also currently off-service (see DFDS fleet movements)
There has been a minor fire onboard Stena Transporter - thankfully nobody injured
http://www.newsmaritime.com/2016/ferry-stena-transporter-caught-fire-in-netherlands/
Stena Superfast VII is now in dry-dock with Stena Superfast VIII now slotted in to VII's schedule. Stena Superfast X remains on SSF VIII's schedule - this makes sense as it means Stena Superfast VII will be operating the busier freight sailings with her increased free height rather than SSF X which has a height restriction.
I have been reading this thread (and the others) with interest since joining the forum yesterday. I must admit that I find the ferry industry very interesting and Stena Line are one of the more interesting companies. During my travels over the past few months, I have been hearing rumours and suggestions from people I know on the ships about the likelihood of new ships for the company on the Irish Sea. A yard in China or Korea was mentioned and I believe these rumours are very pertinent; there could be four or six vessels built.
Quote from: RorieLen on February 19, 2016, 08:51:39 AM
I have been reading this thread (and the others) with interest since joining the forum yesterday. I must admit that I find the ferry industry very interesting and Stena Line are one of the more interesting companies. During my travels over the past few months, I have been hearing rumours and suggestions from people I know on the ships about the likelihood of new ships for the company on the Irish Sea. A yard in China or Korea was mentioned and I believe these rumours are very pertinent; there could be four or six vessels built.
That has been rumoured in various places. Would be very exciting if it happened. Guessing that they would replace the Superfasts at Cairnryan and also go to the Birkenhead and Holyhead routes. Can't see Fishguard getting new tonnage.
Real game-changer for their rivals I would say having such purpose built tonnage.
Some images of the Stena Europe in drydock in Falmouth
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2412022
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2412025
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2412024
A big thank you to Barrie Clark for posting the images
Quote from: PaddyL on February 19, 2016, 10:34:55 AM
Quote from: RorieLen on February 19, 2016, 08:51:39 AM
I have been reading this thread (and the others) with interest since joining the forum yesterday. I must admit that I find the ferry industry very interesting and Stena Line are one of the more interesting companies. During my travels over the past few months, I have been hearing rumours and suggestions from people I know on the ships about the likelihood of new ships for the company on the Irish Sea. A yard in China or Korea was mentioned and I believe these rumours are very pertinent; there could be four or six vessels built.
That has been rumoured in various places. Would be very exciting if it happened. Guessing that they would replace the Superfasts at Cairnryan and also go to the Birkenhead and Holyhead routes. Can't see Fishguard getting new tonnage.
Real game-changer for their rivals I would say having such purpose built tonnage.
It would give their competitors something to think about as well!!!
Hopefully such purpose-built ships will appear on the Irish Sea and not end up being sold to the highest builder before they are even completed!
giftgrub..thanks for the link to the stena photos :)
Quote from: RorieLen on February 22, 2016, 11:06:18 AM
Hopefully such purpose-built ships will appear on the Irish Sea and not end up being sold to the highest builder before they are even completed!
A very good point!
Stena Superfast VII is back in service on the North Channel. Stena Superfast X de-stored and left Belfast for Holyhead last night. Stena Horizon expected to release Stena Adventurer once X has had her survey completed. Talking to crew yesterday they seemed to have enjoyed their time up on the North Channel, and it was nice to hear some Welsh accents onboard.
It was announced that we had arrived in Dublin yesterday rather than Belfast though :)!
Posted by Stena to a number of enthusiasts groups on Facebook
QuoteOn Monday evening 22nd February Superfast V11 left Dry Dock to resume service on the Belfast – Cairnryan route.
During her time in Dry Dock she had her annual underwater surveys and repairs carried out on Bow Thruster No 3 and upgrades in the passenger areas will be completed on the run in time for Easter.
Superfast X is now in Holyhead and will have an in water survey completed and will then go back into service tomorrow Wednesday 24th February at 0855 from Holyhead releasing the Stena Adventurer who will then be enroute to arrive at Harland and Wolff Dry Dock on Thursday morning 25th February.
I see since the Superfasts VII and VIII have switch schedules since their annual overhaul will they be staying like this or will they be moving back to their normal schedules shortly.
Quote from: Andrew White on February 24, 2016, 06:52:39 PM
I see since the Superfasts VII and VIII have switch schedules since their annual overhaul will they be staying like this or will they be moving back to their normal schedules shortly.
They'll move back, probably on Sunday
Unconfirmed rumours from Sweden that Stena have sold the Trelleborg to a UAE based company, no indication of its future yet.
http://ferrysite.dk/ferry.php?id=7925297&lang=en
Some nice images of the Stena Adventurer arriving in Belfast for a much needed three week refit, refurb and repaint.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131060218@N05/25161941821/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131060218@N05/25134392852/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131060218@N05/24625936443/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/131060218@N05/24885116549/in/photostream/
Stena have said on FB that their day trips Dublin-Hoyhead will be available to book online in the next couple of weeks for travel after 20th March. Meanwhile IF are advertising a foot passenger "Walk on Fare" which mjust be booked 4 days in advance?
Quote from: ferryfan on February 26, 2016, 01:32:30 PM
Stena have said on FB that their day trips Dublin-Hoyhead will be available to book online in the next couple of weeks for travel after 20th March. Meanwhile IF are advertising a foot passenger "Walk on Fare" which mjust be booked 4 days in advance?
Good to see. Stena's Cairnryan day fare increases if booked at short notice (i.e. day before).
Quote from: ferryfan on February 26, 2016, 01:32:30 PM
Stena have said on FB that their day trips Dublin-Hoyhead will be available to book online in the next couple of weeks for travel after 20th March. Meanwhile IF are advertising a foot passenger "Walk on Fare" which mjust be booked 4 days in advance?
Doesn't apply to Epsilon I assume?
Anyone know when Horizon is finishing at Holyhead. I would really like a run on her. Is she like a basic Stena Lagan?
Also anyone know if any work was done on the Superfast during her refit?
Also is the Adventurer getting any extra work on her she seems away fora while?
Cheers.
Martha
Quote from: marthyrarth on February 27, 2016, 12:28:34 AM
Anyone know when Horizon is finishing at Holyhead. I would really like a run on her. Is she like a basic Stena Lagan?
Also anyone know if any work was done on the Superfast during her refit?
Also is the Adventurer getting any extra work on her she seems away fora while?
Cheers.
Martha
I'm not sure but I think someone said Stena Horizon is on the Holyhead route until about 8th March at least. She is pretty basic though not standard Visentini any more as Stena have spent some money on her, but this is limited to new seats and a bit of carpet I believe. Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey are the same ship but they most certainly are not basic any more since they have been extensively refurbished.
If you refer to Stena Superfast X, she didn't have a refit - she was covering for her two sisters at Cairnryan.
I think Stena Adventurer has some major technical work to be done but I don't think she is having any accommodation improvements.
Stena Adventurer is having some slight improvements inside, ie all new carpets throughout and also new upholstery in Stena Plus Truckers Barista and Met Grill
Unofficial confirmation that Stena have sold the Trelleborg in this image link below as all Stena logos have been removed from the ferry.
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2417612
Images of the Adventurer in H&W Drydock posted on the Facebook here:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1082319811849411&set=pcb.1082320438516015&type=3&theater
Things have got a little worse at Belfast. Stena Lagan is now suffering delays - she's currently doing a cruise of Belfast Lough as Stena Mersey is on the berth still following her very late arrival from Birkenhead. Stena Lagan currently expected to leave Belfast around 2 hours late, with Mersey off service until this evenings departure to Birkenhead.
I see the stena Adventurer not back on the route till next Sunday so a slightly extended drydock. I guess stena Horizon back on her route on the 15 March.
Malo Seaways former Stena Nordica has had the cow catcher removed and stern ramp refitted since being laid up in Dunkerque, next stop GNV
Scroll to bottom of this link page
http://www.doverferryphotosforums.co.uk/mv-malo-seaways-past-and-present/
She's looking fairly worn these days, especially when compared to her P&O North Channel sisters.
I don't know if its me, but Barfleur seemed also fairly dog-eared during her time with DFDS.
I think being a charter vessel and the nature of Dover to Calais, are the main causes of this.
Quote from: TC on March 07, 2016, 12:59:21 AM
She's looking fairly worn these days, especially when compared to her P&O North Channel sisters.
I don't know if its me, but Barfleur seemed also fairly dog-eared during her time with DFDS.
I think being a charter vessel and the nature of Dover to Calais, are the main causes of this.
Barfleur looked very poor as Deal Seaways. I don't think Malo looks too bad, TBH I was pretty surprised DFDS repainted her at all (rather than a touch up and company name added) as she was never going to stay long term. The blue paint definitely hides a lot though. I'd expect the North Channel twins to look much better given their darker hull colour (and lack of white paint to show through). Certainly European Highlander has plenty of rust streaking showing on her hull these days.
Quote from: Normandy on March 06, 2016, 01:25:49 PM
I see the stena Adventurer not back on the route till next Sunday so a slightly extended drydock. I guess stena Horizon back on her route on the 15 March.
Last I checked Adventurer wasn't due to leave Belfast until Sunday lunchtime. May have changed though.
All should be back to normal on Stena's Birkenhead service. Stena Mersey seems to have put her technical issue behind her now thankfully after another half-day layover in Belfast on Friday.
Loads of fresh paint going onto the Adventurer in Belfast at the moment, the full Stena Line livery is being applied for the first time including the Blue Waves of the hull.
Images on the Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1084496608298398&set=pcb.1084497961631596&type=3&theater
About time too!
Wonder if she will be "Making Good Time" as well? - she can claim that now she doesn't have the Explorer to compete with.
Quote from: giftgrub on March 07, 2016, 07:48:49 PM
Loads of fresh paint going onto the Adventurer in Belfast at the moment, the full Stena Line livery is being applied for the first time including the Blue Waves of the hull.
Images on the Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1084496608298398&set=pcb.1084497961631596&type=3&theater
Great to see Adventurer finally getting some TLC and the Blue Waves 8)
Quote from: Davy Jones on March 07, 2016, 09:35:11 PM
About time too!
Wonder if she will be "Making Good Time" as well? - she can claim that now she doesn't have the Explorer to compete with.
I understood the "Making Good Time" strap like has been scrapped now - it was certainly removed from all of the ferries in the fleet they had it and I don't remember seeing it on any Stena publicity for a couple of years or more now. So, in answer to your question, I'm sure she won't be getting it.
Quote from: RorieLen on March 08, 2016, 07:36:18 AM
Quote from: Davy Jones on March 07, 2016, 09:35:11 PM
About time too!
Wonder if she will be "Making Good Time" as well? - she can claim that now she doesn't have the Explorer to compete with.
I understood the "Making Good Time" strap like has been scrapped now - it was certainly removed from all of the ferries in the fleet they had it and I don't remember seeing it on any Stena publicity for a couple of years or more now. So, in answer to your question, I'm sure she won't be getting it.
Yup, its been retired.
Never liked 'Making Good Time'. Prefer just Stena Line. Reminds me of back on the HSS in the late 90s. If my memory serves me correctly didn't the female cabin crew wear hats? I have a vague memory of them.
Quote from: Davy Jones on March 07, 2016, 09:35:11 PM
About time too!
Wonder if she will be "Making Good Time" as well? - she can claim that now she doesn't have the Explorer to compete with.
They haven't put dat on a ship for years!
Quote from: NathanBrady on March 08, 2016, 11:11:37 PM
Quote from: Davy Jones on March 07, 2016, 09:35:11 PM
About time too!
Wonder if she will be "Making Good Time" as well? - she can claim that now she doesn't have the Explorer to compete with.
They haven't put dat on a ship for years!
Stena Vision still has it yet, Scandinavica got it removed last year from what i know.
Quote from: seaman on March 09, 2016, 04:47:10 PM
Quote from: NathanBrady on March 08, 2016, 11:11:37 PM
Quote from: Davy Jones on March 07, 2016, 09:35:11 PM
About time too!
Wonder if she will be "Making Good Time" as well? - she can claim that now she doesn't have the Explorer to compete with.
They haven't put dat on a ship for years!
Stena Vision still has it yet, Scandinavica got it removed last year from what i know.
But dey haven't added it to a ship that hasn't got it in years - only taken it off ships
Adventurer has full livery applied including blue flashes either side of Stena sheild on bow, should look very good when back in service
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Quote from: giftgrub on March 11, 2016, 08:17:30 PM
Adventurer has full livery applied including blue flashes either side of Stena sheild on bow, should look very good when back in service
Sounds good, any photos or links?
Quote from: HSS on March 11, 2016, 11:09:37 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on March 11, 2016, 08:17:30 PM
Adventurer has full livery applied including blue flashes either side of Stena sheild on bow, should look very good when back in service
Sounds good, any photos or links?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/25698576885/in/album-72157623457108720/
Im sure better will follow :)
I think she is looking REALLY well. Hoping to catch her leaving Belfast ;)
The new look Stena Adventurer is on the way back to the central corridor, some fantastic images of the recently refurbished vessel here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/25734658816/in/dateposted/
Nice pics of Adventurer. Horizon has now taken over from Superfast X, which has been berthed in Holyhead since last night and is due to sail to Dublin this evening at 20.30 after which normal sailing resume.
Quote from: HSS on March 11, 2016, 11:09:37 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on March 11, 2016, 08:17:30 PM
Adventurer has full livery applied including blue flashes either side of Stena sheild on bow, should look very good when back in service
Sounds good, any photos or links?
Quote from: HSS on March 11, 2016, 11:09:37 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on March 11, 2016, 08:17:30 PM
Adventurer has full livery applied including blue flashes either side of Stena sheild on bow, should look very good when back in service
Sounds good, any photos or links?
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/12823335_1314757851872789_3926065284338597494_o.jpg)
More will follow at www.flickr.com/tarbyonline when I get time to get them off the camera :). See also Scotts pictures at www.flickr.com/scottmackey
Stena Europe looks like she is doing sea trials, currently off Penzance
For anyone interested Stena have just added the day trips ex Dublin and Rosslare back to their website, day returns from only €6.50 return on Tuesdays €12 other days not fri or sat.
Stena Horizon has finished covering the central corridor and is on the way to Rosslare to return to its usual route tomorrow, Stena Flavia on the way back to the Baltic, Europe back in Fishguard. Normal service on the Irish Sea.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=865697393547596&set=pcb.696845970418257&type=3&theater
Quote from: Steven on March 14, 2016, 11:54:02 AM
Quote from: HSS on March 11, 2016, 11:09:37 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on March 11, 2016, 08:17:30 PM
Adventurer has full livery applied including blue flashes either side of Stena sheild on bow, should look very good when back in service
Sounds good, any photos or links?
Quote from: HSS on March 11, 2016, 11:09:37 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on March 11, 2016, 08:17:30 PM
Adventurer has full livery applied including blue flashes either side of Stena sheild on bow, should look very good when back in service
Sounds good, any photos or links?
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/12823335_1314757851872789_3926065284338597494_o.jpg)
More will follow at www.flickr.com/tarbyonline when I get time to get them off the camera :). See also Scotts pictures at www.flickr.com/scottmackey
Stena Europe looks like she is doing sea trials, currently off Penzance
Adventurer looks great and thanks for the photos & links.....I am booked on next week ;D
Unbelievable St Patricks day offer from Stena Line for foot passengers. For crossings ex Belfast, use the Irish Link at http://www.stenaline.ie/ferries-to-britain/special-offers/1eurodeal (works out at approx £1.60 return!!!)
Just spent an hour booking crossings for the rest of the year 5 return crossings for a tenner, dates were a little tricky but at that price you have to be flexible.
Quote from: ferryfan on March 14, 2016, 11:22:13 AM
Nice pics of Adventurer. Horizon has now taken over from Superfast X, which has been berthed in Holyhead since last night and is due to sail to Dublin this evening at 20.30 after which normal sailing resume.
I was told that Superfast X had an underwater survey done which is why Horizon covered. I sailed on Horizon from Dublin on the 14/3 crossing and was on deck when the pilot was taken off. Follow the link for photos. I have not seen a pilot on any Stena sailing before out of Dublin.
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=6B8B458CE96092A8!13267&authkey=!AAh8r0K8XFWhxeE&ithint=folder%2cjpg (https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=6B8B458CE96092A8!13267&authkey=!AAh8r0K8XFWhxeE&ithint=folder%2cjpg)
Horizon sailing from Cherborg expected to depart as normal tomorrow, but like the last storm seek shelter on the way to Rosslare to avoid stormy weather, time to batten down the hatches again !
Will possibly shelter in Cherbourg harbour area waiting for storm to pass
Stena Lines Trelleborg has been renamed Sunny and looks like it will be departing Udevalla lay up soon, no destination or future use confirmed yet, would be sad to see it end up beached in Turkey.
The beach seems very popular these days!
Local news from Uddevalla with the Trelleborg in its new look, with Stena Branding removed.
http://uddevallare.blogspot.ie/2016/04/trelleborg-har-blivit-sunny.html
When was the last time they sold a ferry for scrap?
QuoteStena signs contract for four new RoPax ferries
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Quote from: NathanBrady on April 05, 2016, 10:03:56 AM
When was the last time they sold a ferry for scrap?
I honestly can't remember (apart from HSS Voyager which was recycled by Stena themselves responsibly in Sweden), they usually sell them on for a final few years somewhere (or in the case of Explorer for example, for static use). Her new name and reported registry of Palau (me neither, I believe it is in the Caribbean somewhere!) don't inspire confidence. It would still be very uncharacteristic of Stena though.
Former Trelleborg had left Uddevalla and no destination on ais yet ?
Sunny the former Trelleborg next stop, Gibraltar !
Leaving Uddevalla on this link
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2437418
At anchor off Caen now
I have created a new thread in the discussion forum for discussion about Stena rumours and speculation so we can keep fleet movements on topic better. The new thread is here http://www.irish-ferries-enthusiasts.com/forum/index.php/topic,1550.0.html . There is also a corresponding thread for Irish Ferries.
Quote from: giftgrub on April 06, 2016, 07:36:49 PM
Former Trelleborg had left Uddevalla and no destination on ais yet ?
On the move again, the Sunny has just passed between Jersey and Guernsey seems it was avoiding heavy seas, will be interesting crossing Bay of Biscay !
I was on Adenturer yesterday (€1 trip) for the first time since her refit. A perfecet calm day for the crossing.
Other than a paint job which did not extend beyond the hull (and even at that only the outside half of the funnels were repainted) and a new carpet, there were no other signs of any improvement works or redecoration to passenger areas, worn upholstery had not been repaired or replaced for example. The Met Grill, quiet lounge and bar areas on deck 8 were closed and sectioned off and the Barista was closed. This is was not so much a problem on the morning crossing which was quiet but there weren't a lot of seating options on the afternoon return.
P&O aren't the only ones penny pinching by the look of things! To be honest I think Pride of Kent had a far more intensive refit, she may have needed it, but the results are good. Full top to bottom.
I am of the opinion a lot of Stena's 'repaints' this season were basically touch ups. To be fair though Stena Horizon definitely had a full repaint, looked much better.
Regards closing areas, it is becoming sort of common practice, but I haven't come across it to this extent. I came across a recent video of Pride of Kent and I noticed on the tour one of the lounges was closed, a tape barrier was pulled across the entrance, about 2 minutes later the shop opened, so it might have just been the cleaning staff.
As I mentioned on another post, closing off areas helps the company (Stena, P&O, Irish Ferries...) save on turnaround cleaning, freeing up more time for crews to be doing other jobs. Hope its not some new model to cutback on cleaning staff though.
Let's not forget that, often, ships are manned according to the passenger load - the more passengers booked, additional staff are brought on. This is certainly the case with Stena Line, not so much with P&O or Irish Ferries who use non-EU nationals who live on the ship for a period of time.
Closing off areas on quieter sailings may also be due to mustering arrangements in the event of any emergency. What I mean by that is, if an area is closed off and there are fewer crew onboard, there is no need for a crew member in that area for muster duties.
P&O Dover use local labour, British mainly, from cleaning to bridge staff. Its only on the Irish Sea & North Sea, Filipino, East European, Spanish and Portuguese labour is used.
Quote from: TC on April 15, 2016, 08:07:02 PM
P&O Dover use local labour, British mainly, from cleaning to bridge staff. Its only on the Irish Sea & North Sea, Filipino, East European, Spanish and Portuguese labour is used.
Yes I know that - I was referring to Irish Sea operations seeing this is mainly a forum about the Irish Sea.
I have seen areas closed & sectioned off many times on quiet sailings. Makes sense I suppose.
Quote from: TC on April 15, 2016, 08:07:02 PM
P&O Dover use local labour, British mainly, from cleaning to bridge staff. Its only on the Irish Sea & North Sea, Filipino, East European, Spanish and Portuguese labour is used.
So you are saying that P&O use foreign labour on all but one route, which is outside of the scope of this forum!.
Rorie makes a good point about mustering.
Former Trelleborg in the Med, destination now Piraeus, wonder will it change course ?
Quote from: Steven on April 15, 2016, 09:43:30 PM
Quote from: TC on April 15, 2016, 08:07:02 PM
P&O Dover use local labour, British mainly, from cleaning to bridge staff. Its only on the Irish Sea & North Sea, Filipino, East European, Spanish and Portuguese labour is used.
So you are saying that P&O use foreign labour on all but one route, which is outside of the scope of this forum!.
Rorie makes a good point about mustering.
Five large vessels, and one freighter in Dover, that's a lot of jobs! The outsourced crew are brought in like Stena do on the North Sea to do many of the jobs locals wouldn't be too fond of doing. The late Pim de Lange defended Stena's extensive use of 'foreign labour' on the North Sea, and also wasn't too shy about voicing his views on local labour, "Quite fat and covered in tattoos". I have never heard Helen Deeble or Brian Rees of P&O use that terminology to describe local labour!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1313707/Stena-Line-boss-Pim-De-Lange-British-sailors-fat-covered-tattoos.html
Just to clarify, all the officers and nearly all the pursers on P&O Irish Sea are British, Irish, Northern Irish, or Dutch, and they are quite well paid.
I think it is unfair to paint 'foreign labour' in a bad light. The housekeeping staff are generally polite, efficient, and are well trained, so I don't think it is right to try and paint them in a bad light.
Quote from: TC on April 19, 2016, 03:53:35 PM
I think it is unfair to paint 'foreign labour' in a bad light. The housekeeping staff are generally polite, efficient, and are well trained, so I don't think it is right to try and paint them in a bad light.
I never said anything to paint what you call 'foreign labour' in a bad light and I hope you aren't accusing me of doing so.
Quote from: RorieLen on April 19, 2016, 09:11:26 PM
Quote from: TC on April 19, 2016, 03:53:35 PM
I think it is unfair to paint 'foreign labour' in a bad light. The housekeeping staff are generally polite, efficient, and are well trained, so I don't think it is right to try and paint them in a bad light.
I never said anything to paint what you call 'foreign labour' in a bad light and I hope you aren't accusing me of doing so.
To be fair to Rorie, the reference to non-eu labour was to the fact that those staff are onboard all of the time, which would imply that they had may as well man the facilities as they are onboard regardless of passenger levels. Nothing to do with their nationality. Fact is, some UK born crew are sub-par, in the same way that crew from any nationality can be. I think we need to be clear here and say that the vast majority of crew, regardless of nationality, do a great job.
Quote from: TC on April 19, 2016, 03:53:35 PM
Five large vessels, and one freighter in Dover, that's a lot of jobs! The outsourced crew are brought in like Stena do on the North Sea to do many of the jobs locals wouldn't be too fond of doing. The late Pim de Lange defended Stena's extensive use of 'foreign labour' on the North Sea, and also wasn't too shy about voicing his views on local labour, "Quite fat and covered in tattoos". I have never heard Helen Deeble or Brian Rees of P&O use that terminology to describe local labour!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1313707/Stena-Line-boss-Pim-De-Lange-British-sailors-fat-covered-tattoos.html
Just to clarify, all the officers and nearly all the pursers on P&O Irish Sea are British, Irish, Northern Irish, or Dutch, and they are quite well paid.
I think it is unfair to paint 'foreign labour' in a bad light. The housekeeping staff are generally polite, efficient, and are well trained, so I don't think it is right to try and paint them in a bad light.
As for Mr de Lange's comments, have you read the original interview (which is in Dutch), or just the abbreviated and out of context parts which the Daily Mail and RMT have chosen to publish? Without an understanding of the nuances of the Dutch language (and I am told there are many) it is impossible to know what the context/meaning of those comments where.
In reference to only employing foreigners to do the jobs locals won't, others employ locals to do them elsewhere. Personally I feel that local labour (in many industries and not just shipping) would do well to adopt the work ethic and passion for the role that many of their non-local colleagues have.
Anyway, we (yet again) are getting off topic.
Stena Flavia has gained full Stena Line branding during its latest repaint.
A contact in the haulage industry has told me that for an additional fee Stena Line are now allowing up to 4 accompanied units to reserve a place so they are first off the ship (sounds a bit like the premium ticket option for passengers). Apparently this is only available on the Belfast to Cairnryan and Dublin to Holyhead routes.
Separately, Stena are to increase the number of sailings offered on their Baltic sea routes. From the end of this month Stena Flavia will increase her sailings between Nynäshamn and Ventspils from two to three per week in each direction. Additionally from May 16th, Stena Baltica will have an additional weekly crossing between Gdynia and Karlskrona, offering in total five departures in both directions. The timetables of Stena Spirit and Stena Vision will remain as they are however.
Stena Performer is rather unusually moored at Belfast's Albert Quay (the site of the old Stena and current IOMSPCo facilities) this weekend. I believe this makes her the largest ship by gross tonnage to ever moor there. Performer (like Ben-My-Chree) is designed to operate into Heysham and so the relatively shallow water compared to the other Belfast ferry facilities does not pose a problem for her. I have attached a picture I took of her at Albert Quay earlier today.
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1694/26507205902_a73283e3a9_c.jpg)
Stena Europe overnighted in Rosslare last night after a technical issue, local sources indicate one of the stern doors had an issue.
Former Stena Nordica currently Malo Seaways still in Dunkerque but is in the process of being repainted into the GNV White hull with super sized blue text for GNV, now expected to depart for warmer waters towards the end of May. Images at end of link below
http://www.doverferryphotosforums.co.uk/mv-malo-seaways-past-and-present/
And Sunny the former Trelleborg has arrived in Pireaus, just as another former Sealink/Stena ship the Hengist sank in the port, seems to be heading for this shipyard, just might have another career after all
http://www.spanopoulos-group.com/
Stena Nordica is now in full GNV livery. She will be handed back to Stena RoRo in the next week or two, before delivery to GNV and a new chapter in her career.
still hear that Europe will go shortly...and that a fast ship will replace her. Anyone heard the same?.
Do you mean like a cat? If so no as the Irish Ocean there has too much swell. They had enough issues with the lynx
Fastcrafts are history within Stena fleet shortly, look att the Stena Carisma HSS 900 that ran between Gothenburg and Frederikshavn. It has been laid up in the Gothenburg port for 3 years now... And it might as well be withdrawn completely soon.
If i am gonna be more realistic. Maybe Jutlandica and Europe could switch routes with each other maybe... After all, the Scanrail was replaced by Ask/Stena Gothica built in 1982... And freight volumes wouldn't be so much lower with Stena Europe instead when the most of the freight is being transported with the Gothica like nowdays...
Quote from: seaman on May 09, 2016, 06:37:17 AM
If i am gonna be more realistic. Maybe Jutlandica and Europe could switch routes with each other maybe... After all, the Scanrail was replaced by Ask/Stena Gothica built in 1982... And freight volumes wouldn't be so much lower with Stena Europe instead when the most of the freight is being transported with the Gothica like nowdays...
I don't think that's realistic at all to be honest. Goteborg-Fredrikshavn is a major freight route whereas Fishguard-Rosslare simply isn't any more. They need a vessel with large freight capacity running between Sweden and Denmark, whereas the amount of freight space she has would be wasted on St George's Channel.
As if to emphasise how the Jutlandica is a vital asset to th Goteborg-Fredrikshavn route I was reading this on Stena Line's Freight website (freight news April 2016) in a piece about 20 years since the Jutlandica entered service:
"On the front cover... there was an article about Stena Jutlandica – at that time the largest ship in our fleet. This brand new ship was put into service on our route from Gothenburg to Frederikshavn as a freight ship for most of the year to cover our freight customers increasing demand for more capacity. Stena Jutlandica should represent the type of ship which we at Stena Line believed would rapidly become extremely important for the ferry industry. This turned out to be a good prediction and decision; the ship has fully proven to have the right constellation for this service and the traffic has increased ever since."
The reason the HSS's have been pulled out is because the amount of fuel they drink. For example the Stena Lynx between Fishguard and Rosslare cost the same in fuel in one crossing than the Stena Europe made in one day. She also didn't make as much money as passengers were less likely to use her as she was uncomfortable. She also had some noise issues which would make a audible humming sound when coming into Fishguard which could be heard on the high street
They will keep the Europe going for the next year or two providing she passes her MCA inspections. Im sure the plan will be more apparent when the New Builds are finished. Could well see the Mersey And the Lagan sailing to Fishguard and Cherbourg respectively. Remember the Horizon is on Charter too so she wont be staying with the company but in the Lagan and Mersey you will have two ships already integrated in the Stena Line feet and are branded into the Stena Line way. Freight is already up on The Birkenhead - Belfast route and if the rumours are true then 2 of the new builds will be ear marked for there.
It certainly appears Europe will be around for another couple of years, especially given the amount of work undertaken on her this year. After that, who knows. Birkenhead certainly appears to be the most likely place to get two of the new builds - using Lagan and Mersey to replace the tonnage at Rosslare would make sense on a lot of levels, apart from perhaps peak capacity to Fishguard. I do wonder though if the increased takings over those periods are enough to justify the increased operating costs of operating a larger vessel all year round. Theres also the fact that a Visentini has a lot of freight capacity which would be under utilised at Fishguard.
Anyway, on to fleet news. There was a small vehicle fire onboard Stena Superfast VIII yesterday. Whilst passengers were mustered (as you would expect), the crew where able to extinguish the fire themselves, and services continued as normal.
Quote from: Steven on May 15, 2016, 09:20:18 PM
It certainly appears Europe will be around for another couple of years, especially given the amount of work undertaken on her this year. After that, who knows. Birkenhead certainly appears to be the most likely place to get two of the new builds - using Lagan and Mersey to replace the tonnage at Rosslare would make sense on a lot of levels, apart from perhaps peak capacity to Fishguard. I do wonder though if the increased takings over those periods are enough to justify the increased operating costs of operating a larger vessel all year round. Theres also the fact that a Visentini has a lot of freight capacity which would be under utilised at Fishguard.
Anyway, on to fleet news. There was a small vehicle fire onboard Stena Superfast VIII yesterday. Whilst passengers were mustered (as you would expect), the crew where able to extinguish the fire themselves, and services continued as normal.
Thanks for this as ever, Steven.
You're remarks about the Europe and operating one of the Visentini ships at Fishguard brings me back to the long-term future of the service from Fishguard-Rosslare. I do recall exchanges on this forum a few years ago about a potential service from Bristol (Avonmouth) to Cork. It was was also reported that a move to Pemborke, or Swansea, had been examined by Stena but ruled out. Will anything every come of a new service, given that it seems highly unlikely that the roads to and from Fishguard will ever be good enough to draw larger numbers of freight to the service?
I know that the redevelopment of Fishguard harbour is on the cards but, being a cynical so-and-so, I had always seen that as a means to soften the blow of an eventual withdrawal of the ferry service even with the proposals including a new ferry berth. If Stena could take the decision to shut Stranraer after a hundred years, I do not see them being terribly sentimental about the future of Fishguard-Rosslare. In addition, in James Sherwood's memoirs it is interesting that he specifically refers to Fishguard-Rosslare as being a loss making route; he crows about how Stena never saw Sealink's books before buying the company and how he forced them to pay over the odds for it.
Apologies to all if this appears to be going over old ground!
Matt
I noticed while in Belfast this week that Stena Performer and Stena Precision have swapped places with Precision operating Birkenhead and Performer on Heysham services. A friend in the haulage industry said they were told it was to do maintenance work on Precision while she is still in service and on a less intensive schedule.
It looks as if Stena Line have been having some issues this week.
A friend in the haulage industry was told that Stena Hibernia was to be off service all week for planned maintenance while Stena Precision and Stena Performer maintaining Belfast-Heysham. The freight ship run on Belfast-Birkenhead is off due to the holidays in NI.
Stena Performer seems to have suffered an incident in Heysham harbour and is now waiting to enter dry dock at Cammell Laird. The Heysham route was in the hands of one ship until they could reactivated Hibernia today. It's a good job volumes are probably a bit lower this week because of the holiday but my friend says they still had to make alternative arrangements for a few loads.
SFX had two cancelled sailings on Sun 7th Aug - 8.55am Holyhead and 15.10 Dublin
Adventurer had a delayed departure of 2.5hrs on Sunday afternoon at Holyhead. SFX blocked a berth so Adventurer had to wait for Ulysses to berth before docking
There were then approx 1400 passengers on board for a delayed return crossing from Dublin picking up usual load + passengers off the cancelled 15.10
It was feared that SFX would have to be drydocked at one point but the technical issue was resolved
Quote from: VSFXX on August 09, 2016, 01:34:03 AM
SFX had two cancelled sailings on Sun 7th Aug - 8.55am Holyhead and 15.10 Dublin
Adventurer had a delayed departure of 2.5hrs on Sunday afternoon at Holyhead. SFX blocked a berth so Adventurer had to wait for Ulysses to berth before docking
There were then approx 1400 passengers on board for a delayed return crossing from Dublin picking up usual load + passengers off the cancelled 15.10
It was feared that SFX would have to be drydocked at one point but the technical issue was resolved
I heard about this, some unhappy customers I believe. What was the technical issue with SFX?
Quote from: HSS on August 09, 2016, 08:18:58 AM
Quote from: VSFXX on August 09, 2016, 01:34:03 AM
SFX had two cancelled sailings on Sun 7th Aug - 8.55am Holyhead and 15.10 Dublin
Adventurer had a delayed departure of 2.5hrs on Sunday afternoon at Holyhead. SFX blocked a berth so Adventurer had to wait for Ulysses to berth before docking
There were then approx 1400 passengers on board for a delayed return crossing from Dublin picking up usual load + passengers off the cancelled 15.10
It was feared that SFX would have to be drydocked at one point but the technical issue was resolved
I heard about this, some unhappy customers I believe. What was the technical issue with SFX?
An issue with propellers, also, SFX was loaded for 8.55am crossing when cancelled
Not an easy situation for Stena crew on land/on board to deal with. I expect some passengers had time critical plans go up in smoke.
I think Adventurer had the busier time of it as passenger numbers exceeded planned staffing levels for two sailings and had to make up a 2.5hr delay to get back on schedule
20.30 Superfast X sailing is delayed tonight (Sunday). A problem with the Stena ramp, I think it is probably the lower ramp as SFX is currently moving berth.
If it was the upper ramp that was damaged we would have loaded through the lowerdeck and driven up.
Definitely port side ramp - not lowering properly to a flat position
Usual full sailing so we may be away by 10.30pm as loading will commence shortly.
Might have knock on effect for Adventurer later if fault is not fixed as she will have to wait for Ulysses
Quote from: VSFXX on August 21, 2016, 08:46:37 PM
20.30 Superfast X sailing is delayed tonight (Sunday). A problem with the Stena ramp, I think it is probably the lower ramp as SFX is currently moving berth.
If it was the upper ramp that was damaged we would have loaded through the lowerdeck and driven up.
Definitely port side ramp - not lowering properly to a flat position
Usual full sailing so we may be away by 10.30pm as loading will commence shortly.
Might have knock on effect for Adventurer later if fault is not fixed as she will have to wait for Ulysses
Thanks for the info, very useful for us who are regularly traveling with Stena via Holyhead.
Shippax have reported that there was a lorry fire onboard Stena Spirit this morning, around 30 mins before she was due to arrive at Gdynia. The fire was detected early and successfully extinguished by the crew. As a precaution passengers where evacuated to the sun deck. As a result she is expected to be off service until tomorrow.
Stena Spirit is off until 6th, was supposed to travel with the Vision yesterday evening but was asked if I wanted to sail with it during the morning instead from Karlskrona to Gdynia, covering Friday's spirit sale from Gdynia during the evening the same day.
Stena Vision is however a rust bucket on the outside now, will need a proper refit soon, think that it will be the 30th anniversary for her, still having the "Making good time" logo there yet.
Steno's 4 (+4) order from AVIC Weihai are to be powered by dual Caterpillar MaK 12m43C engines. Caterpillar will also supply gearboxes plus 2 x MPP1500F controllable pitch propellers and two MPP1410F controllable pitch propellers. The propellers can be feathered in order to enable single screw operation if required.
IIRC these are the engines used in Tallinn's 'Star', and are the 12 cylinder version of those used in Ulysses.
One of Stena Britannica's propeller shafts is out of action. More details here:
shippingtv.co.uk/?p=3750
She needed tug assistance to berth.
For those of you who are technically minded, why would this have happened and how do they fix it?
Thanks.
Matt
Quote from: Matt73 on September 12, 2016, 06:10:34 PM
For those of you who are technically minded, why would this have happened and how do they fix it?
How it would have happened, any number of reasons (someone else might be able to explain them better than me!), could be anything from the shaft between the gearbox and the prop, to the parts that control the variable pitch propeller. As with all machines, things break over time....
To fix, she'd have to be dry docked for a few days.
Happened to the Pont Aven over the summer too...
Quote from: Kieran on September 12, 2016, 07:29:02 PM
Quote from: Matt73 on September 12, 2016, 06:10:34 PM
For those of you who are technically minded, why would this have happened and how do they fix it?
How it would have happened, any number of reasons (someone else might be able to explain them better than me!), could be anything from the shaft between the gearbox and the prop, to the parts that control the variable pitch propeller. As with all machines, things break over time....
To fix, she'd have to be dry docked for a few days.
Happened to the Pont Aven over the summer too...
Thanks Kieran. I would also be grateful if somebody could explain (in Janet and John terms) how the variable pitch propellers are controlled from the consoles on the bridge. Is it just a case of moving the combinator levers forward and aft, or are additional buttons pressed?
Matt
Removal of HSS linkspan and associated components at berth 5 St Michael's Pier Dun Laoghaire has been completed. Berth no 4 is now the only berth left in the harbour with a linkspan.
The barge used in the dismantling is now being prepared for tow next stop Holyhead.
Are Belfast and Stranraer still intact?
Quote from: Davy Jones on September 15, 2016, 12:44:43 AM
Are Belfast and Stranraer still intact?
No, Belfast had its HSS ramp removed last year and Stranraer earlier this year as well as the conventional ferry linkspan at Ross Pier.
Quote from: Matt73 on September 14, 2016, 10:08:21 PM
Thanks Kieran. I would also be grateful if somebody could explain (in Janet and John terms) how the variable pitch propellers are controlled from the consoles on the bridge. Is it just a case of moving the combinator levers forward and aft, or are additional buttons pressed?
Matt
Defiantly open to correction here, but far as I know that's controlled in the engine control room (and the systems there), not the bridge. There has to be someone here that has a better idea than me about that though!
Very impressed again with Birkenhead to Belfast service, bagged another ferry Stena Lagan this time
Everything is so well cared for in comparison to the Holyhead/Dublin route
Some observations today
Signs asking folks to keep quiet around cabins, new or very clean rubber mats near outside doors, a sparkling clean and tidy freight lounge and special mention for the excellent information boards in the corridor leading away from guest services
I think the single 8hr crossing compared to two every 12hrs on HH/D might be a factor in the crew being able to keep on top of things?
Quote from: VSFXX on October 01, 2016, 11:18:43 PM
Very impressed again with Birkenhead to Belfast service, bagged another ferry Stena Lagan this time
Everything is so well cared for in comparison to the Holyhead/Dublin route
Some observations today
Signs asking folks to keep quiet around cabins, new or very clean rubber mats near outside doors, a sparkling clean and tidy freight lounge and special mention for the excellent information boards in the corridor leading away from guest services
I think the single 8hr crossing compared to two every 12hrs on HH/D might be a factor in the crew being able to keep on top of things?
There is also the half-day layover every Monday on these ships as well remember. A luxury the shorter routes don't have.
Those information boards on the Stena Lagan and Stena Mersey are excellent. They also have them on Stena Superfast VII and Stena Superfast VIII. I wish they'd roll them out to the Stena Adventurer, Stena Superfast X, Stena Europe and Stena Horizon.
Quote from: Steven on October 03, 2016, 02:08:39 PM
Quote from: VSFXX on October 01, 2016, 11:18:43 PM
Very impressed again with Birkenhead to Belfast service, bagged another ferry Stena Lagan this time
Everything is so well cared for in comparison to the Holyhead/Dublin route
Some observations today
Signs asking folks to keep quiet around cabins, new or very clean rubber mats near outside doors, a sparkling clean and tidy freight lounge and special mention for the excellent information boards in the corridor leading away from guest services
I think the single 8hr crossing compared to two every 12hrs on HH/D might be a factor in the crew being able to keep on top of things?
There is also the half-day layover every Monday on these ships as well remember. A luxury the shorter routes don't have.
Do we think that the Monday layover will end with the new ships? Is the demand there for a day sailing on Mondays even before they arrive?
Agree with what has been said about the route. I went on the Stena Mersey overnight to Belfast in September '15 and was very impressed with it. My only gripe was the restricted access to the outside decks. Given that people tend to smoke there too, it's not always a nice experience. Having been on the Silja Serenade and Europa during April, and Brittany Ferries' ships, where you can wander just about anywhere, I do find Stena's policy unduly restrictive. It's the same on the Hollandica and Britannica where large areas are gated off from the public.
Matt
Is it not the fact that areas on the outside decks are closed off is because of crew sleeping areas?
PR
QuoteSTENA LINE OVER THE MOON TO CELEBRATE 21ST BIRTHDAY
Stena Line has been transporting customers from Holyhead and Dublin in style since 1995 and as a result, we have lots of fun and interesting facts that are sure to make your brain go into overdrive!
For instance, did you know that if you were to travel the same amount of miles that a Stena Line ship has travelled between Holyhead and Dublin over the last 21 years you
could travel to the moon and back 6 times!
Another mind-bending fact is that if you were to travel the same amount of miles that a Stena Line ship has travelled from Holyhead to Dublin and back over 21 years you could travel around the earth 123 times.
It's no wonder that the number of miles covered is so great, as eight ships have sailed on the Holyhead to Dublin route a staggering 42,000 times
We have carried over 9.4 million customers, 2 million vehicles and 2.6 million freight units across the Irish Sea since 1995 .
100 of our staff have worked on this route for the past 21 years
450 staff work on the route
Stena Traveller first vessel on route in 1995
Stena Sea Trader 2006 ( Route went to two ship operation)
Stena Adventurer introduced 2003
Superfast X introduced 2015
Storm Angus and Fishguard: Stena Europe is on one of its legendary Cardigan Bay cruises this evening as weather conditions have prevented it docking in Fishguard.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-38043877
Must cost a fortune in extra fuel!
Was on Superfast X last night arriving in Holyhead later than usual due to high winds.
Captain was only attempting to dock because the wind direction was favourable.
I half expected to be cruising the Irish Sea as Adventurer and Ulysses have been all night. Marine Traffic says they still have 40 knot winds.
Stena website says Adventurer will attempt to dock at 7am.
A mate in Dublin waiting for Superfast X has said they are boarding at 8.30am
Quote from: RorieLen on October 07, 2016, 10:04:15 AM
Is it not the fact that areas on the outside decks are closed off is because of crew sleeping areas?
Pretty certain this is the reason. To be honest I don't personally think there is a shortage of outside deck space. Granted it could be better, but I've seen worse!
Stena Horizon has had some work done
http://www.harrispye.com/harris-pye-successfully-completes-refurb-aboard-stena-horizon/
The Harris Pye Group has successfully completed refurbishment and rebranding of two key areas on the Stena Horizon – separate catering facilities for travel and freight passengers, The new Metropolitan Grill Restaurant and Freight Truckers lounge which were both unveiled to passengers on the 6th December sailing from Rosslare to Cherbourg. The new facilities have brought the vessel more in line with the offering of the rest of Stena's Irish Sea fleet.
"We are delighted to have carried out the recent refurbishment and rebranding of the Metropolitan Grill area on board the Stena Horizon," says Harris Pye's Project Manager, Sean Anderson. "It's the sort of challenge on which we thrive, we completed the works over a 9-day period whilst the vessel was in service on the Rosslare to Cherbourg route.
"Crucial to maintaining our installation window was the pre-manufacturing of the hot serving line, feature wall and back bar unit in our workshop in Llandow, South Wales whilst our installation team consisting of marine carpenters, electricians, floor layers and stainless steel specialists completed the remaining works on board which included new flooring, wall coverings, A60 & B15 doors, LED lighting, bar shuttering system & new bar countertops.
"This was an important project in order to create segregated areas for passengers and truckers, while also maintaining the same brand as the rest of the fleet so we are extremely proud to have worked with Northern Marine Ferries and Stena Line from design through to final completion and we look forward to working on future projects together."
Jimmy Howey, Route Onboard Sales and Service Manager Irish Sea South, explains: "The new Metropolitan Grill Restaurant has opened onboard the Stena Horizon and the crew are really delighted at the finished product. They're excited to tell passengers about the extensive menu now available and about how delicious the food is. This is a fantastic addition to the ship and it's another great reason to travel with Stena Line. As well as this, we also now have a dedicated freight lounge which we know our truckers will be very pleased with. I'd like to thank everyone involved in both projects and we are looking forward to a busy 2017."
Further information on Harris Pye is available at www.harrispye.com
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Quote from: giftgrub on December 15, 2016, 07:41:34 PM
Stena Horizon has had some work done
http://www.harrispye.com/harris-pye-successfully-completes-refurb-aboard-stena-horizon/
The Harris Pye Group has successfully completed refurbishment and rebranding of two key areas on the Stena Horizon – separate catering facilities for travel and freight passengers, The new Metropolitan Grill Restaurant and Freight Truckers lounge which were both unveiled to passengers on the 6th December sailing from Rosslare to Cherbourg. The new facilities have brought the vessel more in line with the offering of the rest of Stena's Irish Sea fleet.
"We are delighted to have carried out the recent refurbishment and rebranding of the Metropolitan Grill area on board the Stena Horizon," says Harris Pye's Project Manager, Sean Anderson. "It's the sort of challenge on which we thrive, we completed the works over a 9-day period whilst the vessel was in service on the Rosslare to Cherbourg route.
"Crucial to maintaining our installation window was the pre-manufacturing of the hot serving line, feature wall and back bar unit in our workshop in Llandow, South Wales whilst our installation team consisting of marine carpenters, electricians, floor layers and stainless steel specialists completed the remaining works on board which included new flooring, wall coverings, A60 & B15 doors, LED lighting, bar shuttering system & new bar countertops.
"This was an important project in order to create segregated areas for passengers and truckers, while also maintaining the same brand as the rest of the fleet so we are extremely proud to have worked with Northern Marine Ferries and Stena Line from design through to final completion and we look forward to working on future projects together."
Jimmy Howey, Route Onboard Sales and Service Manager Irish Sea South, explains: "The new Metropolitan Grill Restaurant has opened onboard the Stena Horizon and the crew are really delighted at the finished product. They're excited to tell passengers about the extensive menu now available and about how delicious the food is. This is a fantastic addition to the ship and it's another great reason to travel with Stena Line. As well as this, we also now have a dedicated freight lounge which we know our truckers will be very pleased with. I'd like to thank everyone involved in both projects and we are looking forward to a busy 2017."
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I'd be interested to see how similar the new additions are to the facilities onboard Lagan and Mersey. The modifications at least sound to be very similar.
First posted on FONE
nice video
https://youtu.be/AbObA2GkL-M
And
The Stena Europe, which operates on the daily Stena Line ferry service between Rosslare and Fishguard has become the first vessel in Stena Line's Irish Sea fleet of seven ships to sport the leading ferry company's new strapline.
'Connecting Europe for a Sustainable Future' is now emblazoned in thirty-foot green lettering on either side of the ship to reflect the company's commitment to becoming a more sustainable and environmentally friendly company, a key aspect of Stena Line's future business strategy.
The external livery work was carried out at Belfast's iconic Harland & Wolff shipyard and was manged by Stena Line's group sister company, Northern Marine Ferries as part of an ongoing £7m fleet refit programme.
In addition to the exterior upgrades, the Stena Europe also had work carried out on bow thrusters, rudders and main shaft seals under the water line, with additional upgrades to the galley, bar and crew accommodation.
To accommodate the increasing demand from the freight transport industry, Stena Line also increased the height of the vessel's cargo deck which now allows access to high top trailers, a key requirement of more and more freight customers operating between Britain and Ireland.
Ian Davies, Stena Line's Trade Director (Irish Sea South) commented: "We are delighted that one of our vessels has become the first Stena Line ship on the Irish Sea to promote our new company strapline which graphically reflects our increasing commitment to become a more sustainable and environmentally friendly company.
Furthermore, for our freight customers, we took onboard their feedback in relation to the accommodation of high top trailers and took the refit opportunity to increase the height clearance of an area of our cargo deck to 4.65m. The Stena Europe is now equipped to accommodate all trailer height variations which we are confident will help us continue to expand our freight business in 2017."
Stena Line is the largest ferry operator on the Irish Sea, offering the biggest fleet and the widest choice of routes between Britain to Ireland including Belfast to Liverpool and Heysham, Belfast to Cairnryan, Dublin to Holyhead and Rosslare to Fishguard routes, a total of 224 weekly sailing options between Britain and Ireland. Stena Line also offers a direct service from Rosslare to Cherbourg with three return crossings a week.
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Stena Line operates the biggest fleet and the widest choice of routes between Ireland and Britain with an extensive route network including Belfast to Cairnryan, Belfast to Liverpool, Belfast to Heysham, Dublin Port to Holyhead and Rosslare to Fishguard.
Decided to take o daytrip to Denmark with the Stena Danica today.
Very well looked after and maintained and a big pleasure to sail on, but however age is catching up with her and that says she will need to be dry docked shortly, you can clearly see that rust is starting to show on parts of railings and around some windows like the Europe, looks way better with the MES installed though and almost all life rafts removed as well.
Quote from: seaman on January 29, 2017, 12:35:00 AM
Decided to take o daytrip to Denmark with the Stena Danica today.
Very well looked after and maintained and a big pleasure to sail on, but however age is catching up with her and that says she will need to be dry docked shortly, you can clearly see that rust is starting to show on parts of railings and around some windows like the Europe, looks way better with the MES installed though and almost all life rafts removed as well.
Railings and around windows could be done by crew as ongoing maintenance surely?
QuoteIssued on behalf of Stena Line
Date: January 29th 2017
Stena Line hits half a million freight units in Belfast
Leading ferry company Stena Line has posted a record year for freight traffic volumes on its Belfast Harbour routes in 2016. For the first time in its history, Stena Line has carried over 500,000 freight units through Belfast Harbour.
Stena Line operates three freight services from Belfast Harbour which provide up to 14 daily crossing options between its Cairnryan, Liverpool (Birkenhead) and Heysham services.
Paul Grant, Stena Line's Trade Director (Irish Sea North), commented: "Despite operating in a highly competitive market, 2016 was a record year for Stena Line's Northern Ireland operations. To carry over 500,000 freight units is a fantastic achievement for the entire Stena Line team and one which also cements Belfast Harbour's position as Northern Ireland's leading freight hub. In 2016 we also had record car and passenger volumes with almost 1.5 million passengers travelling with Stena Line, which represents a growth of 7% on the previous year.
"Stena Line has invested heavily in its Belfast Harbour hub. It's reassuring to see that our vision and commitment to an expanding operation from Belfast Harbour has been rewarded. Economic uncertainty is a concern for 2017, however, at Stena Line we remain focussed on providing our customers with the most frequent and reliable services into and out of Northern Ireland. In the first quarter of 2017, we will be investing a further £7m locally with Harland & Wolff as we refit nine of our Irish Sea ship fleet," said Paul.
Paul Grant concluded: "Whilst last year was a record year we cannot afford to be complacent, it's vital that our investments in ships and ports is matched by infrastructure improvements to roads in Northern Ireland and Scotland particularly. It's also important that Belfast and Northern Ireland continues to invest in our growing tourism product."
Joe O'Neill, Commercial Director, Belfast Harbour, said: "Belfast Harbour is Northern Ireland's principal maritime gateway with more than 70% of NI's seaborne trade handled through the Port. This is supported by the record year Stena Line is reporting for 2016. We have been partners with them for more than 20 years and have seen their business here grow significantly during that time. This year alone they have increased the number of cars carried by 10% as well as grown passenger numbers by more than 95,000 and handled more than half a million freight vehicles with overall volumes growing almost 60% in the last 6 years. This is down to their hard work and adapting to the market and we look forward to continuing to support them and the growth of their business in the coming years."
Stena Line is the largest ferry operator on the Irish Sea, offering the biggest fleet and the widest choice of routes between Britain to Ireland including Belfast to Liverpool and Heysham, Belfast to Cairnryan, Dublin to Holyhead and Rosslare to Fishguard routes, a total of 224 weekly sailing options between Britain and Ireland. Stena Line also offers a direct service from Rosslare to Cherbourg with three return crossings a week.
After a very long time in Gdansk the Train ferry Mecklenburg Vorpommern is returning to service.
During refit it was decided to replace the main Train deck area which has meant just over two months out of service.
Stena Nordica is currently on Stena Superast VII's schedule at Belfast, with VII operating VIII's roster while the latter is dry docked at Harland and Wolff.
Stena Superfast VII is now in the dry dock with VIII back in the new livery
(http://www.niferrysite.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/17362087_10154780567167034_4859959708320264255_n.jpg)
QuoteStena Line were delighted to welcome 5 members of the NI Ferry Enthusiasts to Dry Dock today Monday 20th March at Harland and Wolff. Diane Poole OBE Head of PR and Communications said
"Stena Line welcomed this group to have a behind the scenes look at Superfast VII in Dry Dock and were welcomed onboard by Senior Master Alistair McCarlie who had great pleasure in showing them some of the work that goes on during Dry Dock. The group had freedom to ask questions , take pictures and share them on their relevant channels."
"It was great to be able to visit Harland and Wolff to get a better sense of what goes on when a vessel such as Stena Superfast VII is dry docked, and fantastic to be able to ask questions and get answers from someone as knowledgeable as Senior Master A McCarlie. I would like to say thank you to everyone at Harland and Wolff and Stena Line who made our visit possible." Steven Tarbox (NI Ferry Enthusiasts).
Image: Pictured with Stena Superfast VII in dry dock at Harland and Wolff are Capt Alistair McCarlie (Senior Master), and Steven Tarbox, Marty McVicker and Ross McDonald of NI Ferry Enthusiasts. Copyright © Scott Mackey.
Looks like a great day well done guys hope to see lots of pics.
Quote from: ferryfan on March 21, 2017, 10:41:45 AM
Looks like a great day well done guys hope to see lots of pics.
Some of the guys already have them on Facebook and Flickr. Unfortunately I haven't had a chance myself due to computer problems and a round trip on a certain Stena Nordica earlier today! Have a look at
www.flickr.com/scottmackey/ and https://www.flickr.com/photos/martymcv/ ;)
Anybody online atm take a look at Adventurers track she appears to have got half way across Irish sea and has headed back to Holyhead?
15:50
Nothing on stena site sailing updates but AIS is certainly showing her well out of position.
I was on the Adventurer on Saturday, and the captain said something about some upcoming inspection, and he would be doing some strange maneuvers .
Maybe that explains it as the ferry check shows all on time.
I don't thinks there was anything scheduled about her movements yesterday. Meanwhile Nordica has finished her cover work and has depart Belfast heading for Travemunde.
I See that the Nordica is currently on her way to Travemunde , Helsinki - having left Belfast Port this morning just after 9am.
ETA in Helsinki is 23:00 on the 30th March.
Would anyone be able to answer these questions?
What kind of crew would do this mammoth Journey? Would it be one of the normal captain and his crew, or do Stena have a specialist crew who do this long journeys?
How many people would be on board?
Would the Crew take this time to work on the ship - i.e. Painting of decks?
Were would they sleep? (As far as I know the Nordica doesn't have any cabins?)
Is the Nordica able to make the trip without refuelling?
Thanks in Advance.
Travemunde is in North Germany near Lubeck :) Nordica took on bunkers yesterday in Belfast and is fully crewed.
Nordica does indeed have a number of cabins for both passengers and crew. Many of the crew that were with the ship while she was covering on the Irish Sea routes were, infact, Latvian and she is their ship now as she will operate Travemunde (Germany) to Liepaja (Latvia) - a 27 hour crossing for which her cabins will come into good use!
Stena Adventurer had a medical emergency yesterday as far as I know, hence the odd passage she took and there were subsequent delays to her sailings last night as a result.
Quote from: RorieLen on March 28, 2017, 05:11:58 PM
Nordica does indeed have a number of cabins for both passengers and crew. Many of the crew that were with the ship while she was covering on the Irish Sea routes were, infact, Latvian and she is their ship now as she will operate Travemunde (Germany) to Liepaja (Latvia) - a 27 hour crossing for which her cabins will come into good use!
Stena Adventurer had a medical emergency yesterday as far as I know, hence the odd passage she took and there were subsequent delays to her sailings last night as a result.
Also hearing there was a medical emergency on Adventurer yesterday. I can confirm there we plenty of Latvian crew onboard (as well as local) Nordica while she was here. I was very impressed with her crew, I must say. I found them very helpful, attentive, constantly cleaning, and with excellent (albeit heavily accented) English. It's a shame Nordica has been 'let go' a little (especially on the outside), but I guess that's what happens when a ship moves from place to place and operator to operator. Hopefully now she has a permanent home (to which she should be well suited) she will get the TLC she deserves.
Will Nordica, on her arrival or shortlly after, be getting her own dry docking and full stena livery?
Quote from: Davy Jones on March 29, 2017, 10:15:35 AM
Will Nordica, on her arrival or shortlly after, be getting her own dry docking and full stena livery?
She is due to start on the Travemunde - Liepaja route on Friday according to the Stena Line booking engine.
QuoteTallink Grupp
Company Announcement
Tallinn, 2017-07-12 19:01 CEST (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Sale of the Superfast vessels
The subsidiaries of AS Tallink Grupp, Baltic SF VII Ltd and Baltic SF VIII Ltd have concluded the sale agreements with Stena Ropax Limited for M/S Stena Superfast VII (ex name Superfast VII) and M/S Stena Superfast VIII (ex name Superfast VIII). Value of the deal is 133.5 million euros. The vessels will be delivered to the buyer in December 2017. Until then vessels continue operations in the UK waters according to the charter agreements concluded in August 2011 by Stena Line Ltd.
The cash flow from the sale of the vessels will strengthen the group's financial position. The profit from the sale of the vessels is not significant to the consolidated results of AS Tallink Grupp.
Wow, did not see that coming, now makes rumours that one of the China Stena E Flexer is being chartered to Brittany Ferries and one earmarked to replace Superfast X seem to make sense.
As it stands rumours currently indicate Belfast Liverpool get two new ships, Belfast Cairnryan stay with VII AND VIII, Adventurer and new E Flexer on Dublin Holyhead and Superfast X sails south to replace Europe on Irish Sea, while France routes could be placed in hands of Mersey and Liverpool, with Horizon returned to owners. (Given potential of France routes with Brexit a daily service is possible)
Of course Stena have said all four new builds for Belfast, but nothing to stop them changing their minds !!
Stena Europe is to have significant life extension work carried out in early 2018 so will be around at Rosslare for a while yet...
Quote from: RorieLen on July 13, 2017, 08:40:38 AM
Stena Europe is to have significant life extension work carried out in early 2018 so will be around at Rosslare for a while yet...
The same is true for the Danica out of Gothenburg. Whilst visiting the bridge of the Scandinavica in April one of the officers told me that significant funds were being made available to extend her life into the 2020s.
Matt
IOMSPCO are on the lookout for a vessel to replace both Ben my Chree and Arrow and a replacement for Manannan. They say they will invest £120 million in new vessels hardly buying new at that price maybe one of the Visenti sisters could end up here it would appear to fit the requirement of extra freight and passenger capacity.
Quote from: giftgrub on July 12, 2017, 11:07:36 PM
Wow, did not see that coming, now makes rumours that one of the China Stena E Flexer is being chartered to Brittany Ferries and one earmarked to replace Superfast X seem to make sense.
As it stands rumours currently indicate Belfast Liverpool get two new ships, Belfast Cairnryan stay with VII AND VIII, Adventurer and new E Flexer on Dublin Holyhead and Superfast X sails south to replace Europe on Irish Sea, while France routes could be placed in hands of Mersey and Liverpool, with Horizon returned to owners. (Given potential of France routes with Brexit a daily service is possible)
Of course Stena have said all four new builds for Belfast, but nothing to stop them changing their minds !!
All,
I have been thinking about all of this today (perhaps a dangerous thing to have done!). Clearly, some of you know more about these things than me, but is it absolutely certain that the superfasts will remain at Cairnryan just because they have been purchased outright? Could they not be destined for other parts of the network, or be chartered to other operators?
For example, they were both night boats before their charter to Stena. Stena Saga is another ship which is knocking on a bit; during my trip on the Scandinavica (referred to elsewhere in this thread) the officers there specifically referred to the Saga as needing to be replaced; we were discussing the announcement about the four E-Flexers had Perhaps VII or VIII might find its way to Oslo?
In addition, given how cheap the E-Flexers appear to be, and the lack of vessels this size on the charter market, why not just build all eight?
Where do we think that the Brittany Ferries chartered E-Flexer will go? Replacement for Bretagne (no scrubbers fitted as yet)?
Just a thought and look forward to it being knocked down!
Matt
Quote from: ferryfan on July 14, 2017, 04:32:51 PM
IOMSPCO are on the lookout for a vessel to replace both Ben my Chree and Arrow and a replacement for Manannan. They say they will invest £120 million in new vessels hardly buying new at that price maybe one of the Visenti sisters could end up here it would appear to fit the requirement of extra freight and passenger capacity.
Not likely - at 186m long a Visentini would not fit in either Heysham or Douglas.
Quote from: Matt73 on July 14, 2017, 06:19:24 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on July 12, 2017, 11:07:36 PM
Wow, did not see that coming, now makes rumours that one of the China Stena E Flexer is being chartered to Brittany Ferries and one earmarked to replace Superfast X seem to make sense.
As it stands rumours currently indicate Belfast Liverpool get two new ships, Belfast Cairnryan stay with VII AND VIII, Adventurer and new E Flexer on Dublin Holyhead and Superfast X sails south to replace Europe on Irish Sea, while France routes could be placed in hands of Mersey and Liverpool, with Horizon returned to owners. (Given potential of France routes with Brexit a daily service is possible)
Of course Stena have said all four new builds for Belfast, but nothing to stop them changing their minds !!
All,
I have been thinking about all of this today (perhaps a dangerous thing to have done!). Clearly, some of you know more about these things than me, but is it absolutely certain that the superfasts will remain at Cairnryan just because they have been purchased outright? Could they not be destined for other parts of the network, or be chartered to other operators?
For example, they were both night boats before their charter to Stena. Stena Saga is another ship which is knocking on a bit; during my trip on the Scandinavica (referred to elsewhere in this thread) the officers there specifically referred to the Saga as needing to be replaced; we were discussing the announcement about the four E-Flexers had Perhaps VII or VIII might find its way to Oslo?
In addition, given how cheap the E-Flexers appear to be, and the lack of vessels this size on the charter market, why not just build all eight?
Where do we think that the Brittany Ferries chartered E-Flexer will go? Replacement for Bretagne (no scrubbers fitted as yet)?
Just a thought and look forward to it being knocked down!
Matt
Firstly, there is a school of thought that the previous announcement about 2 of the Stena E-Flexers going to Cairnryan was a ploy to aid in the negotiation with Tallink to buy Superfast VII and VIII. Secondly there is absolutley no need for ships with 3,100 lanemetres for the north channel.
The one Brittany Ferries are supposed to be chartering - is it not earmarked to replace Baie De Seine?
Quote from: RorieLen on July 14, 2017, 08:03:57 PM
Quote from: Matt73 on July 14, 2017, 06:19:24 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on July 12, 2017, 11:07:36 PM
Wow, did not see that coming, now makes rumours that one of the China Stena E Flexer is being chartered to Brittany Ferries and one earmarked to replace Superfast X seem to make sense.
As it stands rumours currently indicate Belfast Liverpool get two new ships, Belfast Cairnryan stay with VII AND VIII, Adventurer and new E Flexer on Dublin Holyhead and Superfast X sails south to replace Europe on Irish Sea, while France routes could be placed in hands of Mersey and Liverpool, with Horizon returned to owners. (Given potential of France routes with Brexit a daily service is possible)
Of course Stena have said all four new builds for Belfast, but nothing to stop them changing their minds !!
All,
I have been thinking about all of this today (perhaps a dangerous thing to have done!). Clearly, some of you know more about these things than me, but is it absolutely certain that the superfasts will remain at Cairnryan just because they have been purchased outright? Could they not be destined for other parts of the network, or be chartered to other operators?
For example, they were both night boats before their charter to Stena. Stena Saga is another ship which is knocking on a bit; during my trip on the Scandinavica (referred to elsewhere in this thread) the officers there specifically referred to the Saga as needing to be replaced; we were discussing the announcement about the four E-Flexers had Perhaps VII or VIII might find its way to Oslo?
In addition, given how cheap the E-Flexers appear to be, and the lack of vessels this size on the charter market, why not just build all eight?
Where do we think that the Brittany Ferries chartered E-Flexer will go? Replacement for Bretagne (no scrubbers fitted as yet)?
Just a thought and look forward to it being knocked down!
Matt
Firstly, there is a school of thought that the previous announcement about 2 of the Stena E-Flexers going to Cairnryan was a ploy to aid in the negotiation with Tallink to buy Superfast VII and VIII. Secondly there is absolutley no need for ships with 3,100 lanemetres for the north channel.
The one Brittany Ferries are supposed to be chartering - is it not earmarked to replace Baie De Seine?
I knew I would regret posting that! Makes sense thanks. Had forgotten about Baie de Seine.
The Stena Saga's route is now Stena's only real minicruise focussed-operation with relatively low freight demand. It is the only one which needs a proper, old fashioned cruise ferry so the Superfasts wouldn't really be suitable. Quite what would be is an interesting question - there aren't too many likely candidates around.
Quote from: hhvferry on July 15, 2017, 03:15:37 PM
The Stena Saga's route is now Stena's only real minicruise focussed-operation with relatively low freight demand. It is the only one which needs a proper, old fashioned cruise ferry so the Superfasts wouldn't really be suitable. Quite what would be is an interesting question - there aren't too many likely candidates around.
Ripe for life extension work!
Quote from: PaddyL on July 19, 2017, 09:59:01 PM
Quote from: hhvferry on July 15, 2017, 03:15:37 PM
The Stena Saga's route is now Stena's only real minicruise focussed-operation with relatively low freight demand. It is the only one which needs a proper, old fashioned cruise ferry so the Superfasts wouldn't really be suitable. Quite what would be is an interesting question - there aren't too many likely candidates around.
Ripe for life extension work!
Agree Paddy.
All indications are that VII and VIII will stay exactly where they are. Though costly to run they have been successful vessels on the route, and the E-Flexers freight capacity would be wasted with North Channel freight volumes if anything declining rather than growing. Reverting them back to night boats would require significant investment as well.
In fleet news, Stena Mersey was out of service from Monday morning until her return last night for the overnight sailing to Birkenhead with a technical issue.
Quote from: Steven on August 02, 2017, 07:24:33 PM
Quote from: PaddyL on July 19, 2017, 09:59:01 PM
Quote from: hhvferry on July 15, 2017, 03:15:37 PM
The Stena Saga's route is now Stena's only real minicruise focussed-operation with relatively low freight demand. It is the only one which needs a proper, old fashioned cruise ferry so the Superfasts wouldn't really be suitable. Quite what would be is an interesting question - there aren't too many likely candidates around.
Ripe for life extension work!
Agree Paddy.
All indications are that VII and VIII will stay exactly where they are. Though costly to run they have been successful vessels on the route, and the E-Flexers freight capacity would be wasted with North Channel freight volumes if anything declining rather than growing. Reverting them back to night boats would require significant investment as well.
In fleet news, Stena Mersey was out of service from Monday morning until her return last night for the overnight sailing to Birkenhead with a technical issue.
Some talk of Superfast VII and VIII for Gothenburg-Frederikshavn as replacements for Stena Dancia and Jutlandica.
Quote from: ferryfan on August 11, 2017, 10:59:20 AM
Some talk of Superfast VII and VIII for Gothenburg-Frederikshavn as replacements for Stena Dancia and Jutlandica.
Shippax is speculating about this. I doubt this will happen.
Quote from: PaddyL on August 11, 2017, 01:46:54 PM
Quote from: ferryfan on August 11, 2017, 10:59:20 AM
Some talk of Superfast VII and VIII for Gothenburg-Frederikshavn as replacements for Stena Dancia and Jutlandica.
Shippax is speculating about this. I doubt this will happen.
My thoughts are more like this, doubt it myself but:
If Fishguard is getting a double linkspan and Stena Europe is getting a life extension as well as the Danica, that could mean Fishguard might be getting one of the Superfasts and that Stena would transfer the Europe to replace Jutlandica on the Göteborg-Frederikshavn, which the Jutlandica would sail along with the Stena Nautica if they will move the Grenå route further south to Halmstad due to the need of dropping the port of Varberg, because Stena Line did announce on social media that they might be putting a second ferry on that route if they will move away from Varberg
Exciting times ahead though
Quote from: seaman on August 11, 2017, 10:39:28 PM
Quote from: PaddyL on August 11, 2017, 01:46:54 PM
Quote from: ferryfan on August 11, 2017, 10:59:20 AM
Some talk of Superfast VII and VIII for Gothenburg-Frederikshavn as replacements for Stena Dancia and Jutlandica.
Shippax is speculating about this. I doubt this will happen.
My thoughts are more like this, doubt it myself but:
If Fishguard is getting a double linkspan and Stena Europe is getting a life extension as well as the Danica, that could mean Fishguard might be getting one of the Superfasts and that Stena would transfer the Europe to replace Jutlandica on the Göteborg-Frederikshavn, which the Jutlandica would sail along with the Stena Nautica if they will move the Grenå route further south to Halmstad due to the need of dropping the port of Varberg, because Stena Line did announce on social media that they might be putting a second ferry on that route if they will move away from Varberg
Exciting times ahead though
I agree.
I too have seen the Shippax article and speculation about the Superfasts.
Whilst onboard the Scandiavica in April, I was told that the Danica is to have a considerable sum spent on her to see her in service until at the least 2022, so I can think we can rule out a move for her for the time being; the officers there think she will finish her time where she started back in the early 80s. Why spend the money otherwise? In addition, she was built specifically for the Frederikshavn route and is popular. When I was in Gothenburg, she looked in wonderful condition and could almost have been brand new. They really take care of their ships.
Similarly, the Europe has and, I believe is, to have further monies spent on her to extend her life. You don't do that if you're about to replace the ship and the Superfasts are too large for the Rosslare service; this point has been discussed endessly on this forum. I would have thought that she is now too small to return to the Frederikshavn route, but am happy to be corrected! I will believe the double-deck linkspan at Fishguard when I see it and that would also require one to be added to the berth at Rosslare. Is there any money in the bank to improve Rosslare?
Stena will only place the new ships where they know there is sufficient market demand to fill them.
It will be interesting to see which ship(s) emerge(s) for the new/old Halmstad route.
Do we think that they will exercise the options to build further ships in China? Given how cheap they are, comparatively, and the dearth of decent ships on the charter market, wouldn't it be a safe bet to build all eight? After all, who could have predicted the Brittany Ferries interest?
Matt
Stena RoRo's Stena Egeria, yes a Visentini has arrived in Piraeus, no news yet on its future deployment but was previously on charter to Yantai shipping in service between Korea and China, was also the first Stena passenger vessel to be refurbished in China and was in need off a major refurb when carried out, previously was Hoa Sen.
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2719641
Quote from: giftgrub on August 18, 2017, 09:23:28 PM
Stena RoRo's Stena Egeria, yes a Visentini has arrived in Piraeus, no news yet on its future deployment but was previously on charter to Yantai shipping in service between Korea and China, was also the first Stena passenger vessel to be refurbished in China and was in need off a major refurb when carried out, previously was Hoa Sen.
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2719641
Report on Ferries! Facebook group suggested Albania - Italy ahead for her.
Danica and Europe are both said to have significant investment planned to extend their lives. Danica is said to be in excellent condition, and Stena have invested way too much in Europe in recent years to not keep her going a while longer.
The E-Flexers are simply too big for Cairnryan - why would Stena put vessels with 50%+ more vehicle capacity on to a route which can't fill the current capacity? Its pretty much certain now that E-Flexer 3 is going to Brittany Ferries, something that was confirmed in an article on the shippax website based on an interview with Brittany Ferries (see below). Birkenhead on the other hand could do with the extra capacity now, and unless something major changes 1 and 2 look definite to go there. The lack of anything from Stena about the 4 all new builds going to Belfast, despite plenty of opportunity to say so, says a lot!
Like Matt I will believe in a double level linkspan at Rosslare and Fishguard (as whats the point in having one at one port and not the other) when I see them! The only reason to use twin level loading is to improve turnaround times, something which doesn't appear to be an issue on the route at present. Just because it is there doesn't mean both levels will be used in any case. Jutlandica and Europe are very different vessels - remember Jutlandica is a Ropax and provides balance with Danica (and greater freight capacity than either Danica or Europe). I really can't see Stena going backwards by deploying such an elderly (and small by modern standards) vessel on the Fredrikshavn route - Danica is a very special case built specifically for the route and much loved by the locals. As for either VII or VIII going to Fishguard, THEY HAVE SIX PASSENGER CABINS (suites)! Moving either vessel to Fishguard would require major expenditure, an investment that unfortunately would never be earned back. In any case, they are too big.
As for the Shippax speculation of VII and VIII going to Gothenburg, I find that highly doubtful. They are far from ideal for that route. As I said before, all indications are that they will remain exactly where they are. Even shippax are now suggesting so (see below).
Anyway,
QuoteBrittany Ferries confirms charter of Chinese-built E-Flexer from Stena
FERRYIn a telephone interview with Shippax, Brittany Ferries has confirmed that they will charter the third ship in Stena's E-Flexer series to be built at Avic Weihai in China.
"We have signed a five-year bareboat charter agreement with an option to extend the charter or purchase the ship," Christophe Mathieu, Brittany Ferries' CEO, told Shippax.
In Stena's typical 'can-do philosophy', the 927-passenger ship will be tailored to Brittany Ferries' needs and will get extra cabins, although the 3,100-lanemetre intake will be retained.
"Stena was willing to make modifications to the accommodation and adapt the ship to our requirements," Mr Mathieu added. "The ship will get a typical Brittany Ferries touch but it is unknown who will be in charge of the interior design."
Although built as gas-ready, Brittany Ferries decided to install scrubbers on the newbuilding. The 212m by 27.8m ro-pax will replace the DFDS-owned BAIE DE SEINE, the charter of which expires in April 2019 with no option to have it prolonged.
Yard delivery of the Stena ro-pax is expected in early fall 2020, i.e. about 1.5 year after the BAIE DE SEINE will have been handed back to DFDS. As a stopgap solution, Brittany Ferries might replace BAIE DE SEINE by NORMANDIE or ETRETAT. The latter ship is already on charter from Stena RoRo whereas NORMANDIE will be replaced on the Ouistreham (Caen)-Portsmouth route by the new HONFLEUR, due to be delivered from Flensburger Schiffbau-Gesellschaft in June 2019.
BAIE DE SEINE currently serves both Le Havre and Spain from Portsmouth, but Christophe Mathieu told Shippax that the new Stena ferry will serve Spain from Portsmouth, although no decision has yet been taken whether this will be Santander or Bilbao.
Stena ordered four E-Flexer-Class ro-paxes in April 2016 with an option for another four vessels. All four ships were initially earmarked to operate from the Belfast hub but Stena has meanwhile reviewed its plans and will take over the chartered Belfast-Cairnryan ferries STENA SUPERFAST VII and VIII from the AS Tallink Grupp in December.
This week construction has officially started with the steel cutting for the first E-Flexer which should be delivered in 2019.
© Shippax / Philippe Holthof
https://www.shippax.com/en/news/brittany-ferries-confirms-charter-of-chinese-built-e-flexer-from-stena.aspx
Im not sure why Shippax have decided to speculate about ETRETAT though (or why the new editorial regime choses to speculate, its not even particularly well informed speculation e.g. the suggestion a fifth e-flexer had been ordered, so much), so far as I can remember BF have already said NORMANDIE will be running to Le Havre once relieved by HONFLEUR. That ETRETAT is on charter from Stena is a coincidence, Stena charter out lots of vessels after all.
Theres a new St Columba :o ;D
Quote
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LEADING ferry company Stena Line has invested in a new pilot boat to be used at Holyhead Port. The boat was built by Holyhead Marine Services Ltd to a design created by Camarc Design and will be used by Stena Line for pilotage operations in and out of the Port of Holyhead.
The pilot boat is 13 metres in length with a max speed of over 27 knots and will be used to transfer up to four pilots and two crew members to and from ships that are entering and leaving the Port of Holyhead.
Captain Wyn Parry, Stena Line's Irish Sea South Ports Manager said: "We're delighted that our acquisition of the new pilot boat in Holyhead has allowed us to invest in and support the local economy. It was important for Stena Line to try and support the local maritime industry where possible and we are delighted with the design and build quality that Holyhead Marine Services have been able to provide for us. The new pilot boat will prove essential to the daily operations of the port in terms of embarking and disembarking the ports pilots safely on and off the ships they help guide into and out of the harbour."
Nick Colin York, Managing Director of Holyhead Marine Services Ltd commented: "We're very proud of the hard work that has gone into the building and design of the new pilot boat. It features a resiliently mounted wheelhouse which will give crew a comfortable and quiet working environment and a Popsure fender system which will add to the safety of operations as it spreads impact loads over a large area."
"This craft is a welcome addition to Holyhead Marine's portfolio of composite pilot boats designed by Camarc Design and has extended the existing range to include this smaller and more economic model. In keeping with maritime tradition, the Port Authority has christened the new boat and called it St Columba," added Nick.
For more information on Stena Line go to www.stenaline.co.uk
Steel cutting for the E-Flexer's started today
The Stena Europe and Fishguard harbour featured in BBC One Tv drama Casualty last night, pretending to be a French ferry port. One exterior shot of the Europe and the rest filmed at the check-in area of the port.
Casualty is filmed in the BBC Cardiff studios.
4 ships on route Karlskrona-Gdynia
http://worldmaritimenews.com/archives/228435/stena-lines-mv-gute-starts-operating-on-gdynia-karlskrona-route/
As regarding the chartered Stena Horizon. Can anyone tell me who is crewing her is it a Italian crew or a mix of Stena line crew? As she is flying a Italian flag.
Adventurer is running late again this morning, she was running late earlier in the week but had made the time up, explanation on website for todays delay is due to "earlier schedule disruptions". Any info?
I was on that sailing myself. Arrived at check-in and told running 30 minutes behind schedule. Departure was at 9.00. Arrival in Holyhead was 12:20.
It took the best part of 45 minutes to clear Howth. It was very slow, she must have been making about 12 - 14 knots, finally getting to about 16.
Curiosity got the better of me, and I asked at Guest Services and apparently it was routine maintenance on the engines.
Adventurer had some tech issues last night she left Dublin this morning running over 2 hours late.
Latest Stena Line fleet guide on below link
http://www.mypaper.se/html5/customer/91/11795/?page=22
Details of 2018 vessels for all routes incl return of Stena Forerunner to Stena service.
Decision done! Stena Line will move out of Varberg in 2019
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/halland/klart-stena-flyttar-fran-varberg
With that i am pretty sure we can see some ship movements/fleet change in a while...
Stena Europe appears to be on a cruise around Wexford harbour this evening, was running late anyway, no obvious reason why it didn't go to dock in Rosslare
Quote from: giftgrub on December 15, 2017, 09:15:10 PM
Stena Europe appears to be on a cruise around Wexford harbour this evening, was running late anyway, no obvious reason why it didn't go to dock in Rosslare
Ferrycheck now reporting technical issue, hopefully something they can fix quickly, going to be a busy couple of weeks and the Europe normally performs very well this time of the year.
From Ferrycheck
"The Stena Europe at 1810 this evening was cancelled due to technical problems."
(Europe only on way into Rosslare now should be on berth by 23.00 - needs to skip a rotation to get back on schedule)
Tonight's return to Fishguard cancelled, sailing again at 8am, tonight's 23.45 Fishguard passenger to divert to
02.45 Pembroke crossing
From Ferrycheck
"Due to severe adverse weather the 2345hrs sailing has been cancelled. Passengers with reservations will be accommodated on the 0245hrs IRISH FERRIES PEMBROKE SAILING. Please make your way directly to PEMBROKE DOCK and quote your stenaline reference. PEMBROKE DOCK PORT CODE IS SA726TW"
It's a pity Stena don't push the route a little more.
Irish Ferries seem to be the dominant operator on the Rosslare to Wales operation. Stena have gone from Konningin Beatrix & Stena Lynx III, to Stena Europe & Stena Lynx III, now just to a rather ancient Stena Europe, which has about half the freight capacity of Isle of Inishmore.
I'm sure if Stena modernised Fishguard harbour, and brought in an efficient passenger / freighter eg Stena Nordica, they could attract more clients to the route.
P&O have operated Stena Nordica's sisters on the Larne to Cairnryan route since the 2000s, and both vessels are proving as popular - if not more than their Stena counterparts. Nordica may not be huge from a passenger perspective, but she is very efficient and would probably help secure the future of the route.
Quote from: TC on December 16, 2017, 12:05:49 AM
It's a pity Stena don't push the route a little more.
Irish Ferries seem to be the dominant operator on the Rosslare to Wales operation. Stena have gone from Konningin Beatrix & Stena Lynx III, to Stena Europe & Stena Lynx III, now just to a rather ancient Stena Europe, which has about half the freight capacity of Isle of Inishmore.
I'm sure if Stena modernised Fishguard harbour, and brought in an efficient passenger / freighter eg Stena Nordica, they could attract more clients to the route.
P&O have operated Stena Nordica's sisters on the Larne to Cairnryan route since the 2000s, and both vessels are proving as popular - if not more than their Stena counterparts. Nordica may not be huge from a passenger perspective, but she is very efficient and would probably help secure the future of the route.
Both operators sail with mostly empty freight decks so I'm not sure that getting a vessel with more garage capacity is of great importance. Unfortunately the Wales-Rosslare market has declined from its peak and it's difficult to justify much in the way of new investment for either operator.
As for P&O's Larne ships being more popular than the Stena Superfasts, I'll just leave that one there. Although P&O have clawed a bit back recently and the freight market isn't as lopsided, the passenger traffic stats show the reality.
You must remember though, European Highlander & European Causeway only have about 30% of the passenger capacity of the Superfast's, so I don't think passenger numbers are a fair way of assessing the popularity of Larne. P&O are not part of SailRail and Ulsterbus use the Belfast service, which all inflates Stena's numbers.
From a freight & efficiency perspective P&O's twins certainly have the upper hand on their thirsty Germanic rivals.
I still think it is a pity, Stena haven't pushed the Fishguard route a little more. It's a relatively short crossing and does indeed have rail connections.
As it stands currently, I would imagine Isle of Inishmore is the preferred vessel for freight / hauliers. I'm not knowledgeable of the fares for freight users on the Fishguard / Pembroke routes, but I would think Irish Ferries can offer better rates to clients, simply by having more capacity and a more efficient, more modern vessel.
I would have thought it would be in Stena's interest to undercut Irish Ferries, by having a leaner vessel than Isle of Inishmore, that allows them to offer freight clients better fares. Stena Nordica is hardly a major investment - a nearly eighteen year-old vessel (with better running costs over Stena Europe), replacing a ship that not far of forty years!
Despite her age, I am confident Stena Europe will keep sailing for another decade, however I would hope 2018 will be her last season at Rosslare. From what I have gathered, Stena Europe gets cancelled and has tech problems far more often than Isle of Inishmore - which certainly doesn't help the popularity of the route.
Quote from: TC on December 16, 2017, 01:42:55 PM
You must remember though, European Highlander & European Causeway only have about 30% of the passenger capacity of the Superfast's, so I don't think passenger numbers are a fair way of assessing the popularity of Larne. P&O are not part of SailRail and Ulsterbus use the Belfast service, which all inflates Stena's numbers.
From a freight & efficiency perspective P&O's twins certainly have the upper hand on their thirsty Germanic rivals.
I still think it is a pity, Stena haven't pushed the Fishguard route a little more. It's a relatively short crossing and does indeed have rail connections.
As it stands currently, I would imagine Isle of Inishmore is the preferred vessel for freight / hauliers. I'm not knowledgeable of the fares for freight users on the Fishguard / Pembroke routes, but I would think Irish Ferries can offer better rates to clients, simply by having more capacity and a more efficient, more modern vessel.
I would have thought it would be in Stena's interest to undercut Irish Ferries, by having a leaner vessel than Isle of Inishmore, that allows them to offer freight clients better fares. Stena Nordica is hardly a major investment - a nearly eighteen year-old vessel (with better running costs over Stena Europe), replacing a ship that not far of forty years!
Despite her age, I am confident Stena Europe will keep sailing for another decade, however I would hope 2018 will be her last season at Rosslare. From what I have gathered, Stena Europe gets cancelled and has tech problems far more often than Isle of Inishmore - which certainly doesn't help the popularity of the route.
The passenger numbers of old just aren't there on the Southern Corridor unfortunately. Much of the blame can be laid at the door of package holidays and budget airlines. Freight carryings aren't exactly stellar either. It could be argued that the money that would be used to promote the Fishguard route more is better put to use elsewhere where there is a larger pie to get a slice of in the first place.
With regards to the North Channel, freight carrying are still pretty neck and neck to my knowledge. Stena no longer make their freight statistics available on a monthly basis, like Irish Ferries, but P&O's increase is in the very low single digits last I saw. Do remember also P&O need more sailings to take their share of traffic, and don't get the passenger revenue Stena do. Yes they have more efficient vessels, but they have to sail them more often, sometimes with not much on them from what I have heard.
Stena Europe back on schedule since this morning, apparently an engine issue caused last nights delays but today's speed is all back to normal.
On the bigger issue of the future of the southern corridor, one major issue that is going to play into both operators hands is the congestion on the M50 in the greater Dublin area, unless you are shipping goods to Dublin, if they are required in the southern area ( South of Naas) it will become easier to ship through Wexford, obviously still a big chunk of freight will use the central corridor but a good percentage could be sent through Rosslare.
Keeping this forum thread on track if we need to discuss Southern corridor issues, a new thread can be created.
Also in relation to Stena Nordica and Rosslare, the passenger capacity is too small for the route during the summer, plenty of lane meters but not enough space for the self loading freight (cars and their passengers), I would guess that when Superfast X is displaced at Holyhead by one of the new E-Flexer we could see it on the southern corridor, it will fit in Rosslare and a few tweaks in Fishguard will allow side loading.
Given the level of buzz IF are going to get with Wb Yeats I would not be surprised to see first of the Chinese ships in Dublin, the next two then heading to Birkenhead route.
i hear rumour that when stena do move their berths in the next few years we could see one of the Dutch ships on the route, seeing how much freight traffic includingdrops that are going through Holyhead it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility
To be honest, i think the Dutch ferries will stay on the Hook-Harwich route for a very long time.
But there has been a rumour from a friend of mine, who works for Stena Line. The rumour is that when Stena Line will move down to Halmstad from Varberg they might need a ferry with a bigger passenger and freight capacity and a bit more cabins when sailing from Halmstad to Grenå in Denmark in 2019, and the source say that Stena Europe might replace the Nautica on the Grenå route and the Nautica would be transferred to Fishguard instead....
Isn't the Nautica a bit restricted pax capacity wise for Summer - only 6oo pax following conversion, though I suppose they could convert upper car deck to accomm as it once was.
Any news re Stena refits 2018?
Quote from: MVW85 on December 16, 2017, 11:52:30 PM
i hear rumour that when stena do move their berths in the next few years we could see one of the Dutch ships on the route, seeing how much freight traffic includingdrops that are going through Holyhead it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility
The ships are sailing full at Harwich most of the time so I can't see that happening.
Best bet is the first Chinese newbuild going to Holyhead.
Maybe they could build new ships for Harwich?
Any news re refits of STENA
Quote from: PaddyL on December 18, 2017, 01:52:47 PM
Quote from: MVW85 on December 16, 2017, 11:52:30 PM
i hear rumour that when stena do move their berths in the next few years we could see one of the Dutch ships on the route, seeing how much freight traffic includingdrops that are going through Holyhead it wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility
The ships are sailing full at Harwich most of the time so I can't see that happening.
Best bet is the first Chinese newbuild going to Holyhead.
Stena Britannica and Stena Hollandica have close to 550 cabins as far as I recall so I seriously cannot see them at Holyhead!
Quote from: marthyrarth on December 18, 2017, 05:47:18 PM
Any news re refits of STENA
Last I heard it was only Stena Horizon, Stena Adventurer and Stena Europe for dry dock this winter. I think Falmouth was mentioned.
do you believe that STENA HORIZON will take stena line colors
What vessel will cover - will it be hte Horizon?
Only three going into drydock as far as we know, Europe and Horizon will not be replaced during refit period, Horizon expected to cover Adventurer refit given length of time off service.
Horizon not expected to receive full branding as still on charter and T&C's apparently prevented branding on hull last time around, same with IF Epsilon.
Europes absence will be covered by slot charter on rival Irish Ferries service, Horizons absence will be more complicated as some freight cannot transfer across to rival service, 20 Feb - march 19 for Horizon off service.
Given the size of the Stena group and fleet, hard to believe they don't have a vessel available to provide cover whether one of their own or a chartered ferry.
Quote from: giftgrub on December 18, 2017, 10:19:40 PM
Only three going into drydock as far as we know, Europe and Horizon will not be replaced during refit period, Horizon expected to cover Adventurer refit given length of time off service.
Horizon not expected to receive full branding as still on charter and T&C's apparently prevented branding on hull last time around, same with IF Epsilon.
Europes absence will be covered by slot charter on rival Irish Ferries service, Horizons absence will be more complicated as some freight cannot transfer across to rival service, 20 Feb - march 19 for Horizon off service.
Given the size of the Stena group and fleet, hard to believe they don't have a vessel available to provide cover whether one of their own or a chartered ferry.
Further to what GG has said, and incase it hasn't been mentioned already, the rumoured life-extension work which was to be undertaken on Stena Europe does not appear to be happening, this year at least anyway.
It has been traditional for both Belfast Superfasts to dry dock annually but until a few days ago they've always been under charter from Tallink. It remains to be seen if the pattern will continue now they are Stena owned vessels, but so far I haven't heard anything about them being booked in at H&W or elsewhere.
As for one of the Harwich ships ending up at Holyhead, I personally cannot see it. They'd need replaced by something even bigger for a start, and you can't just conjure up a ship that size from nowhere overnight! Most likely scenario is one of the Chinese vessels coming to Holyhead IMO, with more capacity added on the Dutch routes either to the Hook or Rotterdam itself (tonnage availability permitting of course). With regard to Fishguard I don't personally think Stena Superfast X is the ship for the route. Stena Nautica is potentially a bit slow, remember she had timekeeping issues in her B&I days. She wouldn't be a long term solution really either. It looks as if Europe will be on the route for another year or two anyway, and who knows what the industry will look like then!?
Quote from: Steven on December 18, 2017, 11:51:39 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on December 18, 2017, 10:19:40 PM
Only three going into drydock as far as we know, Europe and Horizon will not be replaced during refit period, Horizon expected to cover Adventurer refit given length of time off service.
Horizon not expected to receive full branding as still on charter and T&C's apparently prevented branding on hull last time around, same with IF Epsilon.
Europes absence will be covered by slot charter on rival Irish Ferries service, Horizons absence will be more complicated as some freight cannot transfer across to rival service, 20 Feb - march 19 for Horizon off service.
Given the size of the Stena group and fleet, hard to believe they don't have a vessel available to provide cover whether one of their own or a chartered ferry.
Further to what GG has said, and incase it hasn't been mentioned already, the rumoured life-extension work which was to be undertaken on Stena Europe does not appear to be happening, this year at least anyway.
It has been traditional for both Belfast Superfasts to dry dock annually but until a few days ago they've always been under charter from Tallink. It remains to be seen if the pattern will continue now they are Stena owned vessels, but so far I haven't heard anything about them being booked in at H&W or elsewhere.
As for one of the Harwich ships ending up at Holyhead, I personally cannot see it. They'd need replaced by something even bigger for a start, and you can't just conjure up a ship that size from nowhere overnight! Most likely scenario is one of the Chinese vessels coming to Holyhead IMO, with more capacity added on the Dutch routes either to the Hook or Rotterdam itself (tonnage availability permitting of course). With regard to Fishguard I don't personally think Stena Superfast X is the ship for the route. Stena Nautica is potentially a bit slow, remember she had timekeeping issues in her B&I days. She wouldn't be a long term solution really either. It looks as if Europe will be on the route for another year or two anyway, and who knows what the industry will look like then!?
I agree with Steven about the mighty Britannica and Hollandica; still my favourites. There has been speculation about one of them them moving to the Irish Sea on this forum before; if memory serves it was to Fishguard last time! As if!
If they are going anywhere, it would think it more likley to be to the Baltic and Karlskrona-Gdynia or Kiel-Gothenburg routes. As Steven says, that would require them being replaced in turn by something even bigger at Harwich and the E-Flexer class seems to be where it's all at the moment. Happy to be corrected, but they will be smaller than Britannica and Hollandica physically and in lane meters.
We know that Capucine and Severine are shortly to be replaced by larger tonnage on the Harwich-Europort and that a new berth has been built at the Europort terminal to cater for the increased demand. I have read here and elsewhere that Britannica and Hollandica are often sailing full to capacity with freight on certain days of the week. If any further capacity is needed on a permanent basis, perhaps Stena might consider stretching them, as happened with their predecessors?
Hollandica has had some new funnel exhuast extensions added recently. Are the ships to be drydocked this year and is any interior refurbishment scheduled, as they are apporaching their eighth year in service.
Is there any information as to whether the option for four further E-flexers might be taken up?
Thanks.
Matt
No word yet on the E-Flexer options Matt. Perhaps they could be waiting to see how the builds progress before jumping in on more of them. Weihai are due to launch a RoPax for a Chinese customer in the next couple of weeks. Just because options are there doesn't mean they have to exercise them either though. All we can do really is speculate until a concrete announcement is made by Stena or AVIC.
Speaking of speculation, the current thinking seems to be that E-Flexer number 1 will go to Holyhead due to the growth Stena are experiencing in freight traffic there and no doubt due in part to a certain arrival expected from Germany, with 2 and 4 for Birkenhead. Of course, things are still liable (perhaps likely) to change. Demand remains strong at Birkenhead with the Monday layover dropped again over the holiday peak to increase capacity for freight as well as of course passengers.
The Dublin - Holyhead timetable has also been fine-tuned a little. I can't recall the details of the top of my head but will post when I find them.
QuoteRECORDS ON THE IRISH SEA
ON THE IRISH SEA WE SEE RECORD BREAKING LEVELS OF SHIPMENTS, ESPECIALLY BETWEEN HOLYHEAD AND DUBLIN, WITHOUT SIGN OF SLOWING DOWN. THEREFORE WE CONTINUE THE WORK BY FINE-TUNING OUR SERVICES TO MEET OUR CUSTOMERS' DEMANDS ACROSS THE REGION.
IRISH SEA SOUTH
While the driver accompanied sector still continues to grow, there are currently signs of a faster pick up in unaccompanied volumes. Stena Line is reviewing its operation to ensure that we are able to maximise trailer handling within the scope of an intensive ro-pax schedule and are investing in additional tugmaster resource and remodelling port infrastructure in Holyhead to achieve this.
We also continue to fine tune sailing schedules to optimise vessel turn-rounds to best meet demand of both accompanied and unaccompanied traffic. In January we will adjust the timetable of Stena Adventurer on her two daylight sailings; this not only opens up one of the busier turn-rounds in Holyhead but in conjunction with a new earlier arrival time in Killingholme for our overnight service from Hoek van Holland, will also allow westbound transit loads from the Continent to Ireland to more easily meet the afternoon departure from Holyhead to Dublin.
Stena Lines services from Fishguard and Cherbourg to Rosslare complete our network of Republic of Ireland services and together with three routes into Northern Ireland offer customers a full range of Irish Sea options. Thank you for your support during 2017.
David Holderness
Freight Commercial Manager, Irish Sea South
The timetable changes on Dublin-Holyhead are the 0820 ex Dublin moves to 0810 and the 1350 ex Holyhead moves to 1400 to allow longer turnaround times to handle freight at Holyhead.
I believe the 1510 ex Dublin will also be slightly retimed in a few weeks time for the same reason.
Storm Elanor causing some interesting route choices. Adventurer currently off the coast at Skerries/Balbriggan
Quote from: ferryfan on January 02, 2018, 10:41:34 PM
Storm Elanor causing some interesting route choices. Adventurer currently off the coast at Skerries/Balbriggan
Well spotted, had to check further, tonight's Adventurer crossing is cancelled must have moved out of berth to make room for Superfast X which is on the way, make interesting playback on MarineTraffic app
Quote from: Steven on January 01, 2018, 07:03:53 AM
No word yet on the E-Flexer options Matt. Perhaps they could be waiting to see how the builds progress before jumping in on more of them. Weihai are due to launch a RoPax for a Chinese customer in the next couple of weeks. Just because options are there doesn't mean they have to exercise them either though. All we can do really is speculate until a concrete announcement is made by Stena or AVIC.
Speaking of speculation, the current thinking seems to be that E-Flexer number 1 will go to Holyhead due to the growth Stena are experiencing in freight traffic there and no doubt due in part to a certain arrival expected from Germany, with 2 and 4 for Birkenhead. Of course, things are still liable (perhaps likely) to change. Demand remains strong at Birkenhead with the Monday layover dropped again over the holiday peak to increase capacity for freight as well as of course passengers.
The Dublin - Holyhead timetable has also been fine-tuned a little. I can't recall the details of the top of my head but will post when I find them.
Thanks, as always, Steven. Always informative and helpful.
I look forward to seeing how Stena will react to the Irish Ferries googly!
Matt
The Stena Line refits have started with the Stena Danica in Landskrona for what appears to be a big refit/refurb.
Image of Danica arriving here.
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2791506
The Gute has joined the Jutlandica and Gothica on the route to provide cover with the Gothica taking limited numbers of car passengers on its sailings.
Stena Scandinavica due to go on refit Saturday for three weeks. Freight cover provided by chartered Caroline Russ.
Stena Forerunner left drydock in Rotterdam today fully rebranded as Stena Line Freight vessel with blue hull ready to take up service on U.K. Holland route.
Will post image links when available.
I seen some images on the Ferries facebook group but no idea how to share
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ferriesglobal/
Image of the new look Stena Forerunner leaving the shipyard
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2797756
Looks very welll following the drydocking.
First time Forerunner has operated for Stena Line, has been on charter since launch.
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/stena_forerunner_2003.htm
The Stena Danica currently in drydock in Landskrona is getting a conservatory style glass roofed bar added to the top deck at the stern, with room for 300 it will be an interesting addition to the Danicas on board offering, it is also likely to get its version of the green wave branding.
The Stena Scandinavica currently in Rementowa has yet to enter drydock it's getting scrubbers fitted, it will be interesting to see how they integrate into the existing funnels.
Stena Britannica is only just leaving Harwich, with Stena Hollandica inbound, according to Marine Traffic.
Does anybody know the reason please? Britannica was drydocked last November.
Thanks.
Matt
Quote from: Matt73 on January 17, 2018, 07:09:34 PM
Stena Britannica is only just leaving Harwich, with Stena Hollandica inbound, according to Marine Traffic.
Does anybody know the reason please? Britannica was drydocked last November.
Thanks.
Matt
I will answer my own question!
http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/lorries-destroyed-in-fire-aboard-passenger-ship-heading-into-harwich-1-5358411
There was a fire on one of the lorries as the ship was docking this morning.
Matt
Wow, thankfully fire was contained and damage limited, Britannica going to shipyard for inspection and clean up before returning to service, going to cause chaos for a few days to have that capacity lost, Hollandica sailings will be very busy.
Might have to take a vessel on short term charter to help move freight.
Quote from: giftgrub on January 17, 2018, 09:22:51 PM
Wow, thankfully fire was contained and damage limited, Britannica going to shipyard for inspection and clean up before returning to service, going to cause chaos for a few days to have that capacity lost, Hollandica sailings will be very busy.
Might have to take a vessel on short term charter to help move freight.
Britannica back at Hoek this evening, looks like it's back in service, no major damage done.
Quote from: giftgrub on January 18, 2018, 08:20:26 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on January 17, 2018, 09:22:51 PM
Wow, thankfully fire was contained and damage limited, Britannica going to shipyard for inspection and clean up before returning to service, going to cause chaos for a few days to have that capacity lost, Hollandica sailings will be very busy.
Might have to take a vessel on short term charter to help move freight.
Britannica back at Hoek this evening, looks like it's back in service, no major damage done.
Very lucky!
Stena Europe is off for refit from Sunday 4th until Tuesday 20th of February, the replacement vessel while the Europe is away will be the Isle Of Inishmore as Stena charter space onboard the Irish Ferries vessel.
All Stena customers can still book on the stena line website and Stena will have employees in Pembroke to look after their customers.
The only major changes will obviously be the timetable reverts to Irish Ferries rather than Stena Line timings.
The Stena Danica returned to service today after a three week refit, one of the last Stena Line Ferries to get the "Green Wave" branding it also has a new conservatory style glass roofed bar on the top stern deck.
Image of the new look below.
https://www.hd.se/2018-01-23/rustad-for-nya-danmarksresor
Also Stena Scandinavica (sister ship to Stena Adventurer) is getting scrubbers installed during drydock at Rementowa
http://www.portalmorski.pl/stocznie-statki/38096-instalacja-scrubbera-na-promie-stena-scandinavica-w-stoczni-remontowa-sa
And Stena Spirit has arrived in Rementowa for refit also.
Stena Adventurer having fun today! Arrived slightly late in Holyhead on her overnight crossing then had trouble berthing. Eventually left around 5 am and didn't return back to Holyhead until 14:40 this Afternnon. Currently there are 35kt Winds and she is being held on the Terminal 5 by the St David. Superfast X is due in soon, presumably she will use Terminal 3 to drop before Epsilon Arrives.
With Ulysses also being out of action as well as Jonathan Swift drydocking, there may be backlogs at both sides of the Central Corridor.
Stena Adventurer delayed again this morning.
Quote from: Davy Jones on February 03, 2018, 10:39:34 AM
Stena Adventurer delayed again this morning.
She has made up a couple of hours though. Quite impressive considering the circumstances.
Looks like SFX has problems now, delayed tonight.
Quote from: HSS on February 03, 2018, 10:58:03 PM
Looks like SFX has problems now, delayed tonight.
taking her turn
Stena Carrier is off the coast of Portugal on the way to Rosslare, due to arrive on Monday 19th.
It will provide freight cover for the Stena Horizon as it goes to drydock in Falmouth and then Horizon provides cover for the Stena Adventurer.
The Stena Nordica has finally been rebranded into the full Stena Line livery during its time in drydock this month. First images here:
http://www.piclizard.com/media/1716610995662937941_1387447712
Stena Line are introducing the MV Arrow tonight on a single round trip Monday to Friday to offer additional capacity on the Holyhead to Dublin route. She will layover at Holyhead during the day.
Stena Adventurer will go to dry dock for refit from Tuesday 6th March until Tuesday 20th March 2018.
During this period, cover will be provided by Stena Horizon in Stena Adventurer's scheduled time slots. The Arrow will provide additional trips prior to Stena Adventurer's refit period, starting 22nd February, from Holyhead. Arrow will sail ex Holyhead at 22:30hrs daily (excl. Sat) and from Dublin at 06:00hrs daily (excl. Sun). These additional sailings will operate until Stena Adventurer returns from refit
The Stena Scandinavica has returned to service from drydock in Rementowa with possibly the neatest scrubber installation yet, image on link below
http://www.xn--landgngen-92a.se/index.php?PHPSESSID=5f1db42d5a6d4aa27f6a59288541fa3d&topic=898.0
And
http://www.portalmorski.pl/stocznie-statki/38463-ekologiczna-stena-scandinavica-opuscila-stocznie-remontowa-sa-video
Conpared to the mess on the Pont Aven and various other vessels, very neat job.
Also another Stena vessel rebranded with the green wave.
According to a couple of photos I have seen online of Stena Horizon in dry dock it seems she is getting full Stena Line livery.
Quote from: RorieLen on February 24, 2018, 08:51:45 PM
According to a couple of photos I have seen online of Stena Horizon in dry dock it seems she is getting full Stena Line livery.
Great news, should look very nice when finished
Images of the new look being applied here
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2816531
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2816202
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33847785@N00/40374299622/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33847785@N00/40374301062/in/photostream/
Latest image
https://www.flickr.com/photos/31157508@N03/25588384307/
Stena Europe delayed in Fishguard due to MCA checks, now cancelled 18.10 from Rosslare tonight.
Horizon in the snow
https://www.flickr.com/photos/31157508@N03/26668243118/
Not sure how you paint in this weather !
Stena Horizon has left Falmouth and is now en route to Dublin eta 0830 Monday morning, not due to take over from Adventurer until the 20.40 on Tuesday.
Stena Horizon is in Dublin now and is moored at the East LInk Bridge until tomorrow Night when she takes up the Adventurers Run.looks very well with her new coat of Paint
Saw some images on the Facebook, amazing what a few logo's and green swirls can do for a ferry.
Also, Horizon has been purchased by Stena Line, no longer a chartered vessel, while on charter no logos were allowed on the hull (same as Epsilon).
Stena Adventurer due in Falmouth on Wednesday morning and going straight into drydock for some much needed TLC.
Great news on the Horizon getting the full Stena logo. Looking forward to photographing her soon.
Just realised the new livery is missing the "Connecting Europe" bit, will probably be applied when the Horizon returns to service in Rosslare on the Monday layovers.
(Ironically the one Stena vessel on the Irish Sea that actually sails to "mainland Europe" does not have the branding !)
Quote from: giftgrub on March 05, 2018, 08:54:18 PM
Saw some images on the Facebook, amazing what a few logo's and green swirls can do for a ferry.
Also, Horizon has been purchased by Stena Line, no longer a chartered vessel, while on charter no logos were allowed on the hull (same as Epsilon).
Stena Adventurer due in Falmouth on Wednesday morning and going straight into drydock for some much needed TLC.
I have not seen anything official to say Stena Line has bought the Horizon... what is the source of your info that they have done so?
Quote from: giftgrub on March 05, 2018, 08:54:18 PM
Saw some images on the Facebook, amazing what a few logo's and green swirls can do for a ferry.
Also, Horizon has been purchased by Stena Line, no longer a chartered vessel, while on charter no logos were allowed on the hull (same as Epsilon).
Stena Adventurer due in Falmouth on Wednesday morning and going straight into drydock for some much needed TLC.
I know there's been speculation she has been purchased due to the paint, but I haven't seen anything official yet. If they have purchased her I'm sure there will be an official announcement in due course as we did with Lagan and Mersey. It's strange that she has retained the Italian flag if she has been sold though. In any case, nice to see her getting the full livery at last.
Edit: not saying she hasn't been purchased (and there's something else I've spotted that would lend weight to that theory), just that if moves have been made in that direction that nothing has been said officially yet :). It would certainly on the face of it make sense to purchase, if the price is right
Its possible the paperwork is not finalised yet.
Re Stena Horizon. The ships certificate of insurance which was renewed on the 1st December 2017 to cover the period 20/02/18 to 20/02/19 names Visentini Giovanni Transporti as the shipowner on whose behalf the policy has been taken out.
Not going off topic, I have pictures of Her at East Link but I do not have permission to upload
Stena Adventurer has left service and is on the way to Falmouth, should arrive early tomorrow.
Some Dublin-Holyhead info...
https://afloat.ie/port-news/ferry-news/item/38608-resplendent-ropax-to-join-ro-ro-freight-ferry-on-dublin-route-to-wales
Quote from: SEA on March 06, 2018, 01:17:27 PM
Not going off topic, I have pictures of Her at East Link but I do not have permission to upload
Great news, why not try to post on shipspotting and the. Post a link.
Quote from: HSS on March 06, 2018, 08:52:41 PM
Some Dublin-Holyhead info...
https://afloat.ie/port-news/ferry-news/item/38608-resplendent-ropax-to-join-ro-ro-freight-ferry-on-dublin-route-to-wales
Good find, great image, notice the slogan is missing on the hull.
Horizon already running about 3 hours late "due to earlier schedule disruptions" seems she was delayed departing Holyhead this morning by about 2 hours.
Horizon left Dublin 11.45 after an almost 5 hour turn around, passengers for 14.00 ex Holyhead transferred to the Big U
Maybe they should have gone for on the job training in quick turnarounds with Irish Ferries on the epsilon.
I hear there have been numerous problems including a freight wagon that broke down on the ramp for more than an hour at one point today.
Having said that, she keeps getting later and later - what a disaster! It's not like they've never used her at Holyhead before!
Always going to be some issues, and never a good time to have them when stern only loading on a busy route with limited turn around time.
Image of new look here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/cityswift/40671210341/
Nearly a full rebrand
Missing tag line on hull
Missing Stena Line branding under bridge (Europe is the same)
Also like the Europe it appears they did not paint the front of the ferry from top of bridge down. On other images same rust stains are visible in middle of the bridge area.
But still looks much better branded.
When Scandinavica was drydocked they used rigging to abseil down the front and paint it.
There is a picture on You Tube of a car carrier experiencing problems loading on Epsilon.
They do not like being reversered onto ramps.
To be honest you cannot blame the crew. They have all day to load the ship in Rosslare.
Irish Ferries have worked out how to load the ship in little over an hour.
Some images of Stena Adventurer in drydock
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2823572
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2823570
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2823569
https://www.flickr.com/photos/31157508@N03/25859911247/in/dateposted/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/31157508@N03/40688178442/in/photostream/
Adventurer is getting a modified version of green wave from sister ship Stena Scandinavica
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2821920
A great image of the new look Stena Horizon coming into Dublin, on link below
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/40096070094/in/dateposted/
The Horizon will be back in Rosslare on 24th March.
Not sure how Stena are going to cover Superfast X which apparently has to make a short visit to drydock to correct a bow ramp issue, possibly get Adventurer back early and send Superfast to drydock asap with Horizon covering Superfast X.
Also unconfirmed rumours that Stena Carrier might head to central corridor after covering for Horizon.
Stena Horizon on some other images posted on web is showing the usual marks on the port side of the hull that berthing in Holyhead leave behind, thankfully plenty of time to correct when in Rosslare on days off.
Adventurer should be back as scheduled on 20th and Horizon will then cover for Superfast X. It's all on the Stena Line Freight live timetable.
Quote from: giftgrub on March 14, 2018, 09:27:16 PM
A great image of the new look Stena Horizon coming into Dublin, on link below
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/40096070094/in/dateposted/
The Horizon will be back in Rosslare on 24th March.
Not sure how Stena are going to cover Superfast X which apparently has to make a short visit to drydock to correct a bow ramp issue, possibly get Adventurer back early and send Superfast to drydock asap with Horizon covering Superfast X.
Also unconfirmed rumours that Stena Carrier might head to central corridor after covering for Horizon.
Stena Horizon on some other images posted on web is showing the usual marks on the port side of the hull that berthing in Holyhead leave behind, thankfully plenty of time to correct when in Rosslare on days off.
As Rorie says, Horizon is the cover for SSF X. She starts with the 15:10 ex Dublin on Tuesday 20th with SSF X returning on Sat 24th with the 02:15 ex Dublin. Arrow finishes with the 23:30 ex Holyhead on Tuesday 20th with nothing showing as taking up those sailings (or any announcement of their continuation). Filling and unloading ARROW between the other sailings is one thing, doing the same with Carrier and using such a large vessel for a single round trip a day (to sit around at Holyhead for much of the day) is quite another scenario entirely. Wouldn't be surprised if she stayed with Stena though rather than going back out on charter, theres a few other places that could make good use of her in the network.
QuoteOn a recent visit to Belfast, Stena Line CEO Niclas Martensson presented the team on Stena Superfast VIII with the Scandinfo trophy for 2017.
Scandinfo is the measurement of customer satisfaction across the entire Stena Line fleet. Superfast VIII came out on top for the third time since 2013. She regained the crown from sister vessel Stena Superfast VII which won the trophy for the two previous years.
https://wp.me/p8Bfsp-2pg
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2826377
The new look Stena Adventurer
Adventurer has left drydock and heading back towards Holyhead, eta 3 am Tuesday.
And she looks stunning best looking ship on the Irish sea
Stena Adventurer is back taking the 14:00 ex Holyhead. SFX is now taking her usual 15:10 ex Dubblin but with Horizon taking over with the 20:30 ex Holyhead this evening while SFX goes for repairs, not sure where she is going to.
Superfast X has stayed in Holyhead, must be a job for the travelling fitter.
Another note Stena getting a lot of stick on twitter about the Lagan going technical last night.
Quote from: jgf on March 21, 2018, 09:30:04 PM
Superfast X has stayed in Holyhead, must be a job for the travelling fitter.
Another note Stena getting a lot of stick on twitter about the Lagan going technical last night.
I don't think it was the Stena Lagan that was the problem, rather the Stena Precision that had some sort of failure and was blocking the only available berth at Birkenhead which caused the Lagan to be delayed.
I passed through Holyhead this morning. Stena Superfast X was on the Cruise ship Jetty and Stena Horizon was covering her sailing schedule.
Quote from: jgf on March 21, 2018, 09:30:04 PM
Superfast X has stayed in Holyhead, must be a job for the travelling fitter.
Another note Stena getting a lot of stick on twitter about the Lagan going technical last night.
Seems to have been Precision as she was on the north berth. When she came off it Lagan went on, and Precision went out to anchor. Tbh it's probably been a case of no information to give, though understandably a very stressful time for all of those involved. A contact in Merseyside tells me it seems there's a problem on the south berth which has put it out of action as they haven't been using it lately. Precision now in Cammel Laird.
Quote from: Steven on March 22, 2018, 09:40:37 AM
Quote from: jgf on March 21, 2018, 09:30:04 PM
Superfast X has stayed in Holyhead, must be a job for the travelling fitter.
Another note Stena getting a lot of stick on twitter about the Lagan going technical last night.
Seems to have been Precision as she was on the north berth. When she came off it Lagan went on, and Precision went out to anchor. Tbh it's probably been a case of no information to give, though understandably a very stressful time for all of those involved. A contact in Merseyside tells me it seems there's a problem on the south berth which has put it out of action as they haven't been using it lately. Precision now in Cammel Laird.
My apologies should have done further research!
Stena Line have introduced a new premium recline lounge called Hygge on STENA SUPERFAST VII and STENA SUPERFAST VIII
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-introduce-hygge-recline-lounge-belfast-cairnryan/ (https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-introduce-hygge-recline-lounge-belfast-cairnryan/)
Quote from: IFPete on March 22, 2018, 07:11:47 PM
"The cruise ferry is being built specifically for Irish Ferries Dublin - Holyhead services. It is expected to replace the schedule of the MV Ulysses, which in turn will replace the currently chartered vessel MV Epsilon in the fleet".
Doesn't say anything about a charter being extended until July 2020. It's implied it will happen, but that's not the same as confirming it has. There's also the assumption that W.B. YEATS will be in service without any issues in July - the delivery date has been pushed back already a few times and she's a first for the yard as well. For all we know there could be a plan to retain Epsilon and use her elsewhere or sub-charter her out
Went on the Stena Horizon 08:55 Hlyhead return 15:10 from Dublin - St Patrick's day £4 return!!!!
Ship was slow boarding - reversing freight so slow foot pax boarding.
V similar to Lagan and Mersey but more dated and basic.
Would improve significantly if they put more carpets here and there.
Shop very very small.
Captain Italian.
Slight roll force 6-7 from South.
Took 40 minutes to unload footies which is unacceptable and we were off before most cars etc.
on way back ship had approx 200 pax but felt very busy only a few seats vacant and large gatherings to go to cars.
Did not buy any food as rather expensive and not a great choice. Had coffee but no free refills or second half price like on other Stena ships.
Crew I believe were mix of Irish and uk and not bad overall.
Cinema out of action - no apology over tannoy, and it would be good if stena could have explained this was a refit cover ship whilst Superfast x having attention. On my ticket it said SUPERFAST X.
Unloading in Holyhead very slow. Slow approach to berth and 50 minutes from time of docking to boarding bus and exiting terminal. Not acceptable. Facilities at Holyhead are bad - no room, spare parts and bits dumped everywhere
V old buses TO SHIP. No foot pax gangway. TerMinal needs painting. Station dirty. No train information on board. Wifi useless, even with small pax loads
Have complained before re Holyhead port but Stena seem to think they're quite good! Well, I was in Durress earlier last year and the terminal there is fantastic in comparison to Holyhead!
Stena Horizon ok as a short term relief vessel if this was explained to pax. Not sure if I would enjoy Cherbourg Rosslare on her - definitely not if full, and there are too many visentinis around.
Lots of footies, some a bit rough, making waiting in the terminal a bit unpleasant.
Also when you come through security in Holyhead footprints on floor and sign points to stairs - Stena foot pas lounge and to the left, Irish ferries foot pax lounge, when the Irish ferries lounge deals for both companies. Why hasn't someone changed the signage then - for god's sakes, years have gone by since the HSS seating lounge is not in use!
Quote from: marthyrarth on March 23, 2018, 07:20:54 PM
Went on the Stena Horizon 08:55 Hlyhead return 15:10 from Dublin - St Patrick's day £4 return!!!!
Ship was slow boarding - reversing freight so slow foot pax boarding.
V similar to Lagan and Mersey but more dated and basic.
Would improve significantly if they put more carpets here and there.
Shop very very small.
Captain Italian.
Slight roll force 6-7 from South.
Took 40 minutes to unload footies which is unacceptable and we were off before most cars etc.
on way back ship had approx 200 pax but felt very busy only a few seats vacant and large gatherings to go to cars.
Did not buy any food as rather expensive and not a great choice. Had coffee but no free refills or second half price like on other Stena ships.
Crew I believe were mix of Irish and uk and not bad overall.
Cinema out of action - no apology over tannoy, and it would be good if stena could have explained this was a refit cover ship whilst Superfast x having attention. On my ticket it said SUPERFAST X.
Unloading in Holyhead very slow. Slow approach to berth and 50 minutes from time of docking to boarding bus and exiting terminal. Not acceptable. Facilities at Holyhead are bad - no room, spare parts and bits dumped everywhere
V old buses TO SHIP. No foot pax gangway. TerMinal needs painting. Station dirty. No train information on board. Wifi useless, even with small pax loads
Have complained before re Holyhead port but Stena seem to think they're quite good! Well, I was in Durress earlier last year and the terminal there is fantastic in comparison to Holyhead!
Stena Horizon ok as a short term relief vessel if this was explained to pax. Not sure if I would enjoy Cherbourg Rosslare on her - definitely not if full, and there are too many visentinis around.
Lots of footies, some a bit rough, making waiting in the terminal a bit unpleasant.
Also when you come through security in Holyhead footprints on floor and sign points to stairs - Stena foot pas lounge and to the left, Irish ferries foot pax lounge, when the Irish ferries lounge deals for both companies. Why hasn't someone changed the signage then - for god's sakes, years have gone by since the HSS seating lounge is not in use!
Slight correction, she technically isn't on refit relief. She's covering a technical problem with Stena Superfast X before she returns to her home route.
With regard to the interior of the vessel itself, she's on charter so they are probably quite limited in what they can do, which is unfortunate as an upgrade to something more like Lagan/Mersey should make her a much better vessel for passengers. For whatever reason loading and unloading does seem to be an issue with her this time round on the Holyhead run. Shame communication wasn't better though (mind you those used to Epsilon may have thought her a slight improvement on a vessel that IF market as a "cruiseferry" on the Holyhead run!).
I take it you won't be travelling with BF on Cork - Santander then ;).
Travelling with BF CORK-santander - if the price is right i.e. much cheaper than normal ferry I would travel.
iF THE SHIP WAS QUIGE EMPTY NOT TOO BAD IF HAD WORK TO DO ONBOARD.
However, I do find these vissentinis a bit boring, although belfast ships are not bad to be fair.
Horizon is on the way back to Rosslare and Superfast X on ramp in Holyhead.
Normal service is about to resume for Stena's Irish Sea services.
Not sure if Carrier which is on the way to Cherbourg will make a return crossing and we could see three Stena ferries in Rosslare again for a short time.
Horizon will need a little bit of paintwork to remove the Holyhead fender marks and add the "Connecting" slogan to both sides of the hull.
Quote from: giftgrub on March 24, 2018, 09:03:04 PM
Horizon is on the way back to Rosslare and Superfast X on ramp in Holyhead.
Normal service is about to resume for Stena's Irish Sea services.
Not sure if Carrier which is on the way to Cherbourg will make a return crossing and we could see three Stena ferries in Rosslare again for a short time.
Horizon will need a little bit of paintwork to remove the Holyhead fender marks and add them"Connecting" slogan to both sides of the hull.
Horizon will resume to Cherbourg on Tuesday. It's all on the Stena Line freight timetable...
Sorry, was assuming Horizon will pick up service on Tuesday but did not state it specify.
Was mentioning that Carrier, Horizon and Europe could all be together in Rosslare on Monday if Carrier does the return sailing tomorrow, I see this is scheduled (sometimes they make last minute changes to schedules).
Stena Carrier is to cover European Endeavour on the Dublin - Liverpool route. See post in the P&O thread for the details
Quote from: Steven on March 29, 2018, 03:24:40 PM
Stena Carrier is to cover European Endeavour on the Dublin - Liverpool route. See post in the P&O thread for the details
Looks very well at the Rosslare anchorage, in the centre of Rosslare bay.
I just received a text from Stena stating that
From May 14th the 15:10 departure from Dublin Port (SFX) will be moved back to 14:50 with a new arrival time in Holyhead of 18:20.
Did not see this coming
https://www.dfds.com/news-and-media/news/dfds-charters-new-ship-for-the-english-channel-in-2021
Will any E Flexer see a Stena Line service
Quote from: giftgrub on April 24, 2018, 10:15:53 PM
Did not see this coming
https://www.dfds.com/news-and-media/news/dfds-charters-new-ship-for-the-english-channel-in-2021
Will any E Flexer see a Stena Line service
Apparently DFDS are getting number 5 so other three can still arrive on Irish Sea
Brittany Ferries is also getting one, so Stena will only have 2 left.
Quote from: Niall on April 24, 2018, 11:13:17 PM
Brittany Ferries is also getting one, so Stena will only have 2 left.
No... this was reported "CEO Per Westling at Stena RoRo says to Maritime magazine that the newbuilding to DFDS is the fifth ropax vessel in the series, that is, the first option declared.
- All newbuilds in the series have employment, three go to Stena Line, one to Brittany Ferries and one to DFDS."
Stena Carrier is due to berth in Dun Laoghaire for crew change over and Stores Monday and tuesday next week .
Quote from: RorieLen on April 25, 2018, 05:50:54 AM
Quote from: Niall on April 24, 2018, 11:13:17 PM
Brittany Ferries is also getting one, so Stena will only have 2 left.
No... this was reported "CEO Per Westling at Stena RoRo says to Maritime magazine that the newbuilding to DFDS is the fifth ropax vessel in the series, that is, the first option declared.
- All newbuilds in the series have employment, three go to Stena Line, one to Brittany Ferries and one to DFDS."
Stena have an option of a further 4 E-Flexers on top of the first 4, the fact that that a 5th has been ordered means that if Stena can find long term charters for 3 more, or decide they want another 3 for longer term fleet replacement, then it is possible that 8 E-Flexers could be built.
Quote from: SEA on April 27, 2018, 01:38:22 PM
Stena Carrier is due to berth in Dun Laoghaire for crew change over and Stores Monday and tuesday next week .
A rare sight Stena Carrier is alongside at the site of the old Carlisle pier this morning. Reports that she is there for survey work to be carried out.
Stena Europe on a Cardigan Bay cruise this evening
Quote from: ferryfan on April 30, 2018, 11:23:26 AM
A rare sight Stena Carrier is alongside at the site of the old Carlisle pier this morning. Reports that she is there for survey work to be carried out.
Yes, saw her this evening on the way home. Not the prettiest ship - a far cry from the Explorer which was probably the last Stena boat to enter Dun Laoghaire Harbour nearly 4 years ago at this stage.
Does this represent a thawing of the relationship between Stena and Dun Laoghaire Harbour Company?
Stena AB Annual reports are out
https://www.stena.com/reviews-reports/
https://www.stena.com/uploads/2018/04/7cb572a1-f7cf-4ebc-9bb0-118bb809c178.pdf
Some interesting information is the option for another four EFlexer has been extended so still time to order another three (no 5 going to DFDS)
https://www.stena.com/uploads/2018/04/248ac726-2647-4c15-88ba-80e3b6c7e001.pdf
Some interesting reading.
Quote from: Fast Ferry Fan on May 02, 2018, 09:20:15 PM
Quote from: ferryfan on April 30, 2018, 11:23:26 AM
A rare sight Stena Carrier is alongside at the site of the old Carlisle pier this morning. Reports that she is there for survey work to be carried out.
Yes, saw her this evening on the way home. Not the prettiest ship - a far cry from the Explorer which was probably the last Stena boat to enter Dun Laoghaire Harbour nearly 4 years ago at this stage.
Does this represent a thawing of the relationship between Stena and Dun Laoghaire Harbour Company?
I wouldn't read too much into it because remember that Stena Carrier is not a Stena Line owned ship. She is owned by Stena RoRo which is a totally separate company within the wider Stena Sphere and which serves a completely different business purpose to Stena Line.
Quote from: giftgrub on May 02, 2018, 10:34:33 PM
Stena AB Annual reports are out
https://www.stena.com/reviews-reports/
https://www.stena.com/uploads/2018/04/7cb572a1-f7cf-4ebc-9bb0-118bb809c178.pdf
Some interesting information is the option for another four EFlexer has been extended so still time to order another three (no 5 going to DFDS)
https://www.stena.com/uploads/2018/04/248ac726-2647-4c15-88ba-80e3b6c7e001.pdf
Some interesting reading.
Yes, important to note that it says the option has been extended but the orders not (yet) exercised for the remaining three possible new builds.
Stena Carrier has left DL to anchor in Dublin Bay, if Stena RoRo are looking for something to do with the vessel, how about sending it to drydock for a much needed power wash and repaint !!!!!
Apparently it is expected back in DL next week.
maybe she is going to replace another P&O Ship.
I wonder is she staying around for a reason? Perhaps she could be useful in the Stena Line fleet somewhere, say, if they wanted to increase capacity by replacing one of their existing freight ships or does she just not have any work (unusual for a freight ferry of her size)?
My guess is she will go on lease to P&O or Seatruck unless Irish Ferries have something up there sleeve.
Quote from: IFPete on May 11, 2018, 10:41:04 AM
My guess is she will go on lease to P&O or Seatruck unless Irish Ferries have something up there sleeve.
Do the charters of Stena Precision and Stena Performer not expire soon?
I am sure they could be extended,
Quote from: IFPete on May 11, 2018, 10:56:49 PM
I am sure they could be extended,
Maybe, maybe not... Seatruck could do with more capacity on their Warrenpoint route I'm sure.
I agree, however that would put Stena in a bind, as these ships were designed for port of Heysham and looking at the size of Stena Carrier compared to the other vessels i doubt it would fit in the port.
My guess is that she might at as a back up for Epsilon for a few days while they take Ulysses to Liverpool or Falmouth for rudder repairs and a slash of paint,
Quote from: IFPete on May 12, 2018, 01:40:24 PM
I agree, however that would put Stena in a bind, as these ships were designed for port of Heysham and looking at the size of Stena Carrier compared to the other vessels i doubt it would fit in the port.
My guess is that she might at as a back up for Epsilon for a few days while they take Ulysses to Liverpool or Falmouth for rudder repairs and a slash of paint,
I understood the Ulysses was to be fully dry docked in the autumn when the WB Yeats is in service. Could she not hold out until then?
Surely the sensible thing to do (when/if Stena Precision and Stena Performer go back to Seatruck) would be to use the Stena Carrier as the third Belfast - Liverpool ship and maybe one of her sisters could release Stena Scotia back to Heysham. I'm sure the Seatruck pair don't feature in Stena's long term plans regardless.
Ulysses has lingering technical problem that will need attention soon, She is out of action again tomorrow.
Quote from: IFPete on May 12, 2018, 08:52:56 PM
Ulysses has lingering technical problem that will need attention soon, She is out of action again tomorrow.
As soon as Yeats moves across to the Holyhead route I can see her heading into DD as has been rumoured since the start of the year. Unless of course it is a worsening problem that needs immediate attention and the decision is taken out of ICG's hands of course!
Stena Carrier's next destination?
https://www.hgvireland.com/po-ferries-set-to-lift-capacity-at-teesport/
Stena Carrier is still ancored in Dublin Bay.
She's now back in Dún Laoghaire - Carlisle Pier. Presumably to allow crew to come ashore/ transact business/obtain supplies.
Not sure when she arrived but was in Dublin Bay anchored last evening.
The Stena Carrier has departed Dun Laoghaire and is on her way to Teesport .
Quote from: SEA on May 30, 2018, 10:22:19 AM
The Stena Carrier has departed Dun Laoghaire and is on her way to Teesport .
As predicted... chartered to P&O for the Teeeport-Rotterdam Route to replace Estraden.
Quote from: RorieLen on May 30, 2018, 02:18:53 PM
Quote from: SEA on May 30, 2018, 10:22:19 AM
The Stena Carrier has departed Dun Laoghaire and is on her way to Teesport .
As predicted... chartered to P&O for the Teeeport-Rotterdam Route to replace Estraden.
Adding to this, ESTRADEN has replaced MISTRAL on the Teesport - Zeebrugge route hence giving P&O the capacity increase they were talking about last month. Interestingly though MISTRAL is coming to "various" Stena Line Irish Sea routes on a sub-charter for a few months, according to her owners Facebook page a few days ago.
As mentioned in the appropriate thread, E-Flexer 1 has been confirmed as Holyhead bound, with 2 and 4 destined for Belfast - Birkenhead. This will of course free up Stena owned (most likely) STENA SUPERFAST X, STENA LAGAN, STENA MERSEY and the additional freight vessel at Birkenhead (currently the chartered STENA PRECISION) for use elsewhere or charter. Current
speculation suggests STENA SUPERFAST X will make her way south to Fishguard to replace STENA EUROPE which by then will be almost 40! What happens with Lagan and Mersey in the long term could depend on whether the final options on the E-Flexers are exercised and were they go of course.
When I was onboard the Stena Europe last year, I was told by an onboard officer that despite new ferries ordered that they need to keep the Europe for a couple of more years, because it has been told in the Swedish media that the new Halmstad-Grenå route might have a second ship added, so the scenario could be that they use the Superfast X on that route, or that Europe is replaced on the Fishguard route and will head over to Halmstad instead sailing alongside Stena Nautica. Another speculation suggests that Stena Nautica and Europe might even swap routes with each other next year already... But even if Europe is my favorite vessel, does Stena need more old timers there when they have a lot of them sailing in Scandinavia yet??
Talking about Stena Saga, Danica, Nautica, Vision/Spirit that are well beyond their 30's now. And you can notice that Stena Vision is becoming more unreliable now then ever before...
Superfast X could enhance the route more, Stena Europe is a aging vessel.
Stena will have their hands full as the Stena Saga also is the same age as the Europe, the Danica turned 35 years this year....
And let's not forget that from my viewpoint Stena Line has the biggest quantity of old vessels in Northern Europe
My thoughts are if they choose to build the E-flexer 7 and 8 this will mean the Europe and Danica going at the same time
Fishguard would not generate enough freight volume to justify an e-flexer.
Its possible that Stena will operate a summer only service in the future with Irish Ferries doing the heavy lifting.
If 7 and 8 are ordered chances are they'll be for the Baltic. Danica is apparently in excellent condition and Saga is a totally different type of vessel. Actually both are really to be honest. Unless there's a huge shift in traffic patterns the Baltic makes more sense.
It is still likely that Europe will probably be replaced by SFX in 2020.
Quote from: Steven on June 09, 2018, 12:15:25 AM
Quote from: RorieLen on May 30, 2018, 02:18:53 PM
Quote from: SEA on May 30, 2018, 10:22:19 AM
The Stena Carrier has departed Dun Laoghaire and is on her way to Teesport .
As predicted... chartered to P&O for the Teeeport-Rotterdam Route to replace Estraden.
Adding to this, ESTRADEN has replaced MISTRAL on the Teesport - Zeebrugge route hence giving P&O the capacity increase they were talking about last month. Interestingly though MISTRAL is coming to "various" Stena Line Irish Sea routes on a sub-charter for a few months, according to her owners Facebook page a few days ago.
As mentioned in the appropriate thread, E-Flexer 1 has been confirmed as Holyhead bound, with 2 and 4 destined for Belfast - Birkenhead. This will of course free up Stena owned (most likely) STENA SUPERFAST X, STENA LAGAN, STENA MERSEY and the additional freight vessel at Birkenhead (currently the chartered STENA PRECISION) for use elsewhere or charter. Current speculation suggests STENA SUPERFAST X will make her way south to Fishguard to replace STENA EUROPE which by then will be almost 40! What happens with Lagan and Mersey in the long term could depend on whether the final options on the E-Flexers are exercised and were they go of course.
I though e-flexer 2 and 5 were going to belfast. with 3 and 6 going to BF and 4 going to DFDS
Quote from: IFPete on June 10, 2018, 03:41:05 PM
Quote from: Steven on June 09, 2018, 12:15:25 AM
Quote from: RorieLen on May 30, 2018, 02:18:53 PM
Quote from: SEA on May 30, 2018, 10:22:19 AM
The Stena Carrier has departed Dun Laoghaire and is on her way to Teesport .
As predicted... chartered to P&O for the Teeeport-Rotterdam Route to replace Estraden.
Adding to this, ESTRADEN has replaced MISTRAL on the Teesport - Zeebrugge route hence giving P&O the capacity increase they were talking about last month. Interestingly though MISTRAL is coming to "various" Stena Line Irish Sea routes on a sub-charter for a few months, according to her owners Facebook page a few days ago.
As mentioned in the appropriate thread, E-Flexer 1 has been confirmed as Holyhead bound, with 2 and 4 destined for Belfast - Birkenhead. This will of course free up Stena owned (most likely) STENA SUPERFAST X, STENA LAGAN, STENA MERSEY and the additional freight vessel at Birkenhead (currently the chartered STENA PRECISION) for use elsewhere or charter. Current speculation suggests STENA SUPERFAST X will make her way south to Fishguard to replace STENA EUROPE which by then will be almost 40! What happens with Lagan and Mersey in the long term could depend on whether the final options on the E-Flexers are exercised and were they go of course.
I though e-flexer 2 and 5 were going to belfast. with 3 and 6 going to BF and 4 going to DFDS
No, three of the first four are going to Stena Line routes. No3 is for Brittany Ferries which leaves No2 and No4 for Belfast-Birkenhead. No5 is the first one of the second 'batch' which will be heavily modified for DFDS and no6 is for Brittany Ferries.
http://news.cision.com/stena-roro/r/stena-roro-signs-contract-for-newbuild-for-long-term-charter-to-dfds,c2506314
http://news.cision.com/stena-roro/r/stena-roro-places-an-order-for-a-further-newbuild-and-signs-a-10-year-charter-contract-with-brittany,c2531936
Thank you. I wonder will DFD order more e-flexers.
If the final two are ordered I'd suggest Stena Line may find a use for them in their Baltic Route Network... perhaps as replacements for Stena Spirit and Stena Vision operating from Gdynia to Karlskrona...
We'll just have to wait and see, but i'm sure that 2020's will be a century that Stena Line will begin withdrawals of the 80's vessels.
But i can tell despite everything Stena Europe is in a decent condition though in my opinion, but we have to realise that age is catching up with her as well, and despite Stena Vision for example being 6 years newer you can clearly see that it has some wear and tear. The so called Comfort class cabins could do with a big refit, but only thing that has been done is to paint the walls in the bathrooms on them, and that's it, they've been like that since they left the Germany route in 2010.
The reason that Stena Danica may be in an excellent condition is because it stays in Gothenburg during the day some days, according to a friend who works onboard he tells me that it requires quite a lot of maintenance in the latest days, he's even had some questions from some Gothenburgers about when the Göteborg-Frederikshavn will have a new ship as the Danica has been there for all it's eternity...
I would of thought that the main factor in determining the future of Stena Europe will be fuel efficiency.
How have Rosslare - Fishguard passenger and freight numbers changed since they moved the sailing times.
Quote from: seaman on June 10, 2018, 08:15:43 PM
We'll just have to wait and see, but i'm sure that 2020's will be a century that Stena Line will begin withdrawals of the 80's vessels.
But i can tell despite everything Stena Europe is in a decent condition though in my opinion, but we have to realise that age is catching up with her as well, and despite Stena Vision for example being 6 years newer you can clearly see that it has some wear and tear. The so called Comfort class cabins could do with a big refit, but only thing that has been done is to paint the walls in the bathrooms on them, and that's it, they've been like that since they left the Germany route in 2010.
The reason that Stena Danica may be in an excellent condition is because it stays in Gothenburg during the day some days, according to a friend who works onboard he tells me that it requires quite a lot of maintenance in the latest days, he's even had some questions from some Gothenburgers about when the Göteborg-Frederikshavn will have a new ship as the Danica has been there for all it's eternity...
My money would be on Spirit and Vision being replaced by Eflexer 7 and 8. As for Danica there are plans for new vessels for the route around 2030 but they are still at the concept stage. If they happen they will be something really special and quite groundbreaking. The problem with Danica is she is so loved that she's going to be a really hard act to follow. Not sure she can make 2030 but we'll see.
With regard to Saga, when she's finished I think the route will be too if I'm honest.
Article in Swedish, Stena Gothica is getting replaced by Hammerodde.
https://www.expressen.se/gt/stena-line-ersatter-danmarksfarja-med-nytt-fartyg/
Article says that there are also gonna be changes on the Karlskrona-Gdynia and the Travemunde-Liepaja routes as well!
Update:
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/stena_line/pressreleases/stena-line-foerflyttar-tre-fartyg-foer-att-staerka-linjenaetet-2540110
Steam Gothica will sail on Travemunde-Liepaja, Steam Nordica will return permanently to Karlskrona-Gdynia
Quote from: Steven on June 12, 2018, 03:58:47 PM
Quote from: seaman on June 10, 2018, 08:15:43 PM
We'll just have to wait and see, but i'm sure that 2020's will be a century that Stena Line will begin withdrawals of the 80's vessels.
But i can tell despite everything Stena Europe is in a decent condition though in my opinion, but we have to realise that age is catching up with her as well, and despite Stena Vision for example being 6 years newer you can clearly see that it has some wear and tear. The so called Comfort class cabins could do with a big refit, but only thing that has been done is to paint the walls in the bathrooms on them, and that's it, they've been like that since they left the Germany route in 2010.
The reason that Stena Danica may be in an excellent condition is because it stays in Gothenburg during the day some days, according to a friend who works onboard he tells me that it requires quite a lot of maintenance in the latest days, he's even had some questions from some Gothenburgers about when the Göteborg-Frederikshavn will have a new ship as the Danica has been there for all it's eternity...
My money would be on Spirit and Vision being replaced by Eflexer 7 and 8. As for Danica there are plans for new vessels for the route around 2030 but they are still at the concept stage. If they happen they will be something really special and quite groundbreaking. The problem with Danica is she is so loved that she's going to be a really hard act to follow. Not sure she can make 2030 but we'll see.
With regard to Saga, when she's finished I think the route will be too if I'm honest.
What would be the rationale for closing the route be Steven?
Thanks
Matt
Stena Jutlandica and Isle of inismore would make good running mates
Quote from: Matt73 on June 14, 2018, 07:02:47 PM
Quote from: Steven on June 12, 2018, 03:58:47 PM
Quote from: seaman on June 10, 2018, 08:15:43 PM
We'll just have to wait and see, but i'm sure that 2020's will be a century that Stena Line will begin withdrawals of the 80's vessels.
But i can tell despite everything Stena Europe is in a decent condition though in my opinion, but we have to realise that age is catching up with her as well, and despite Stena Vision for example being 6 years newer you can clearly see that it has some wear and tear. The so called Comfort class cabins could do with a big refit, but only thing that has been done is to paint the walls in the bathrooms on them, and that's it, they've been like that since they left the Germany route in 2010.
The reason that Stena Danica may be in an excellent condition is because it stays in Gothenburg during the day some days, according to a friend who works onboard he tells me that it requires quite a lot of maintenance in the latest days, he's even had some questions from some Gothenburgers about when the Göteborg-Frederikshavn will have a new ship as the Danica has been there for all it's eternity...
My money would be on Spirit and Vision being replaced by Eflexer 7 and 8. As for Danica there are plans for new vessels for the route around 2030 but they are still at the concept stage. If they happen they will be something really special and quite groundbreaking. The problem with Danica is she is so loved that she's going to be a really hard act to follow. Not sure she can make 2030 but we'll see.
With regard to Saga, when she's finished I think the route will be too if I'm honest.
What would be the rationale for closing the route be Steven?
Thanks
Matt
The sheer cost of acquiring a suitable replacement vessel for a start! Its not a route you can just stick a standard RoPax on. They'd never make the money back.
Quote from: seaman on June 13, 2018, 12:14:27 PM
Article in Swedish, Stena Gothica is getting replaced by Hammerodde.
https://www.expressen.se/gt/stena-line-ersatter-danmarksfarja-med-nytt-fartyg/
Article says that there are also gonna be changes on the Karlskrona-Gdynia and the Travemunde-Liepaja routes as well!
Update:
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/se/stena_line/pressreleases/stena-line-foerflyttar-tre-fartyg-foer-att-staerka-linjenaetet-2540110
Steam Gothica will sail on Travemunde-Liepaja, Steam Nordica will return permanently to Karlskrona-Gdynia
The English press release
QuoteAfter summer, Stena Line will re-deploy three ships on three routes. The target is to further improve service and accessibility for customers and optimise operations in line with market developments.
"We are now implementing a strategically important development to further strengthen three of our major transport corridors. Demand for capacity is increasing and we constantly evaluate our business as the market develops and our customers' demands. Because we have built-in flexibility in our business, we can be agile and implement these types of changes in our network with short notice", says Stena Line's CEO Niclas Mårtensson.
New tonnage on Göteborg-Frederikshavn
Stena Line now takes the next step in the growth strategy on the Göteborg-Frederikshavn route. The RoPax vessel Hammerodde will be taken into operation in the middle of September, replacing Stena Gothica.
"We will have a product better suited for both our freight customers and passenger's needs on this route. We will open up for car passengers on Hammerodde which will mean increased capacity on the passenger side. In conjunction with the change, we will also concentrate all traffic to Denmark at Masthuggskajen, which will increase availability and service for our customers", says Tony Michaelsen, Trade Director of Region Denmark.
Hammerodde was acquired from the Bornholm shipping company Faergen by Stena about a year ago and will switch to a Stena Line name in due course.
Sister ships strengthen Travemünde-Liepaja
In the middle of September, Stena Gothica will return to her former route Travemünde-Liepaja where she will operate together with her sister ship M/V Urd.
"We have strong growth on our routes connecting the Baltics with Scandinavia and Germany/West Central Europe. Stena Gothica will be an important addition in which we will be able to offer our customers a standardised product on all departures with two sister vessels, which will facilitate our freight customers´ transports and meet the market demand for freight capacity", says Erik Thulin, Trade Director in Baltic Sea North.
Four permanent RoPax vessels on Karlskrona-Gdynia
Stena Gothica replaces Stena Nordica who will be placed on the Karlskrona-Gdynia route in October, after the charter of M/V Gute is over and the ship returns to Gotlandsbolaget.
Karlskrona-Gdynia is a strategically important corridor between Sweden and Poland that has been growing steady during recent years.
"Growth is still strong between Karlskrona and Gdynia, and with Stena Nordica twice as big as Gute, we will be able to offer our customers even better accessibility. In addition, Stena Nordica has a double tier configuration, which gives significant time gains during loading and unloading. Stena Nordica will also complement Stena Baltica in a good way as they are similar vessels, which means that we will be able to offer our customers an efficient RoPax concept on all four vessels, as well as a strong passenger concept on Stena Vision and Stena Spirit, says Marek Kiersnowski, Trade Director, Baltic Sea South.
Main facts Stena Nordica
Built: 2000, Japan, Mitsubishi
Length: 169.8 m
Beam: 24 m
Draft: 6 m
Capacity: 1 950 lane meters
Main facts Stena Gothica
Built: 1981/2001/2015, Apuania, Italy
Length: 171 m
Beam: 21 m
Draft: 5,3 m
Capacity: 1 598 lane meters
Main facts Hammerodde
Built: 2005, B.V. Schps & Mfbk De Merwede v/h van Vliet & Co, Hardinxveld, Holland
Length: 130 m
Beam: 23 m
Draft: 5,6 m
Capacity: 1 538 lane meters
https://news.cision.com/stena-line/r/stena-line-re-deploys-three-ships-to-strengthen-the-route-network,c2546741
When the eflexers come to repalce the Lagan & the Mersey. I wonder if Stena would send them both to Rosslare to start a daily French service. The Horizon could then be handed back to its owners. With all the unknowns about Brexit, the direct service will probably boom.
Lets see how the market goes post Brexit.
My Money is on Stena Lagan and Mersey going to Baltic.
Quote from: IFPete on June 15, 2018, 02:18:30 PM
Lets see how the market goes post Brexit.
My Money is on Stena Lagan and Mersey going to Baltic.
We agree on something then ;).
Perhaps Cherbourg could be in line for one of the vessels, but it will be tempting to keep identical sisters together. If Stena decide to purchase Horizon she could always be upgraded to or beyond the specification of Lagan and Mersey anyway.
Both Stena Precision and Stena Performer are returning to their owner Seatruck Ferries and will be replacing the current smaller vessels currently on the Warrenpoint to Heysham route.
What have Stena lined up to replace these two fine ships,
Quote from: IFPete on June 19, 2018, 07:12:26 PM
What have Stena lined up to replace these two fine ships,
I read somewhere that it looks possible Stena Scotia will join her sister Stena Hibernia on the Belfast-Heysham route and maybe Stena Carrier will go on the Belfast-Birkenhead route.
The keel has been laid on E-Flexer number 2. This will be the first of two vessels for the Belfast - Birkenhead route. As above, current speculation suggests that STENA SCOTIA and STENA CARRIER may be the vessels replacing the two Seatruck FSG's on the Heysham and Birkenhead routes respectively, however there has not yet been anything official from Stena.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/keel-laid-second-stena-e-flexer/
Hi Steven, was this change driven by Seatruck or Stena?
Quote from: IFPete on June 20, 2018, 10:51:38 PM
Hi Steven, was this change driven by Seatruck or Stena?
I doubt Stena wanted to be in this situation if I'm honest. No matter what they do they are going to be down on capacity at Heysham, a route which has proven popular for unaccompanied traffic. But then so has Seatruck's Warrenpoint to Heysham route which the two vessels are being redeployed to ;). I suppose thats the risk when you depend on one of your competitors for a key asset.
I doubt its a coincidence that Seatruck are growing faster than the rest of the sector, and have 20% of the total Irish Sea RoRo market.
Stena Adventurer is now running about 1 hour 40 behind schedule due to earlier technical issues. Any info?
Quote from: ferryfan on June 28, 2018, 04:11:23 PM
Stena Adventurer is now running about 1 hour 40 behind schedule due to earlier technical issues. Any info?
I heard that she had an issue with her bow ramp. Presumably the delay is also compounded by what must be a massive increase in freight volumes due to the absence of the Ulysses which entered dry dock at Belfast this evening at about 5pm.
Adventurer seems to have lost more time, did not depart Dublin until well after 10.00 this morning.
Not good with Ulysses' 4100lm and passenger capacity missing as well. I'm sure Stena are under even more pressure than normal. Not good timing for Adventurer to have tech problems as well, but at least she's keeping things moving (along with SFX, Epsilon, and Dub Swift) while Ulysses takes a break.
Adventurer is running almost 2 hours late this morning but somehow Stena website still showing her as on time.
Adventurer nearly sailed without luggage van ...had open up again to take it
Stena are under a heck of a lot of pressure. It may be Irish Ferries that are down a ship, but Stena have to take up the slack too. They'll be squeezing in everything they possibly can on every sailing. Not much scope to make up any delays when taking full loads every sailing so there could be a knock on effect
Quote from: Steven on July 06, 2018, 12:32:11 PM
Stena are under a heck of a lot of pressure. It may be Irish Ferries that are down a ship, but Stena have to take up the slack too. They'll be squeezing in everything they possibly can on every sailing. Not much scope to make up any delays when taking full loads every sailing so there could be a knock on effect
Stena seem to doing just fine in the circumstances. Doesn't seem to be any delays in their Dub / Holyhead services - which would suggest they're managing well. I'd say they're delighted with the increased business.
Quote from: Dart on July 08, 2018, 12:07:57 PM
Quote from: Steven on July 06, 2018, 12:32:11 PM
Stena are under a heck of a lot of pressure. It may be Irish Ferries that are down a ship, but Stena have to take up the slack too. They'll be squeezing in everything they possibly can on every sailing. Not much scope to make up any delays when taking full loads every sailing so there could be a knock on effect
Stena seem to doing just fine in the circumstances. Doesn't seem to be any delays in their Dub / Holyhead services - which would suggest they're managing well. I'd say they're delighted with the increased business.
Adventurer was running late most of the week. As for coping just fine they've been having to leave a significant amount of freight behind as well.
Seems to be running on time now. It's not Stena's responsibility to look after their competitors' freight and passengers. Any of their competitors' freight and passengers they do carry is an added bonus to their bottom line and their reputation at the expense of their competitor. It's a win win situation for them.
Quote from: Dart on July 09, 2018, 08:17:46 PM
Seems to be running on time now. It's not Stena's responsibility to look after their competitors' freight and passengers. Any of their competitors' freight and passengers they do carry is an added bonus to their bottom line and their reputation at the expense of their competitor. It's a win win situation for them.
Win-win apart from the fact that they are a lot busier than usual and are having to turn people away! That doesn't help their reputation, and nor do ferries which are rammed full (thus impacting on the passenger experience).
As I said above somewhere, volumes tend to be lower at weekends so it's hardly surprising things have got back on schedule. There's a reason Seatruck for example have less weekend and Monday sailings. Don't be surprised if they gradually slip again as the week goes on though.
I just don't follow your logic there. Surely being busy is good for the success of the business. I'm sure any IF passenger who's looked after by Stena would look very favourably on Stena for getting them to where they're going.
Quote from: Dart on July 10, 2018, 07:52:56 PM
I just don't follow your logic there. Surely being busy is good for the success of the business. I'm sure any IF passenger who's looked after by Stena would look very favourably on Stena for getting them to where they're going.
A ferry operating at capacity isn't necessarily a pleasant place to be, and that's an experience people will remember regardless of the circumstances. Short term Stena make a few quid, granted, but that's it. Nobody really wins out of situations like this, unless they were sailing with empty vessels anyway. Trust me, they weren't. In any case many passengers only travel once or twice a year. They are having to turn away freight customers that may travel multiple times a day, every day. Those customers will be far from happy and are having to search out alternative travel arrangements. Not all freight is booked far in advance after all! Holyhead is down 16km of freight space no matter what way you look at it.
There's also the pressure being put on Stenas call centre and customer service teams as well of course.
The HAMMERODDE which is joining the Stena Line fleet soon as the third ship on Gothenburg- Fredrickshaven is to be renamed as Stena Vinga and will sail alongside the Danica and Jutlandica.
http://www.ferry-site.dk/ferry.php?id=9323699&lang=en
Quote from: giftgrub on July 14, 2018, 09:18:33 PM
The HAMMERODDE which is joining the Stena Line fleet soon as the third ship on Gothenburg- Fredrickshaven is to be renamed as Stena Vinga and will sail alongside the Danica and Jutlandica.
http://www.ferry-site.dk/ferry.php?id=9323699&lang=en
Stena Minga more like it ha ha. Ugly thing
Adventurer running over an hour late (again) leaving Dublin this morning.
Quote from: ferryfan on July 17, 2018, 11:41:48 AM
Adventurer running over an hour late (again) leaving Dublin this morning.
Not surprised. She is totally rammed I am told. Seen some praise online from customers though for how efficiently they are handling the loads. With no sign of Ulysses coming back until mid-next week let's hope things continue to run well!
QuoteStena signs order for two additional E-Flexer ships
Europe's leading ferry company has an option on a further four vessels
Stena has decided to exercise its option to build a seventh and eighth E-Flexer vessel. The two vessels will be deployed within Stena Line's route network with a planned delivery in 2022. Additionally, Stena RoRo has taken an option on the construction of a further four E-Flexer vessels also to be built at Avic Weihai Shipyard, China.
"We are very pleased to have ordered two additional E-Flexer vessels from Stena RoRo. We foresee increasing demand for freight capacity in Northern Europe and our new vessels fit very well in matching anticipated market developments as we prepare ourselves for further expansion. At this stage we haven't decided where within our route network these two vessels will be deployed and are currently evaluating several options," says Niclas Mårtensson, CEO Stena Line.
The new order and the four further options are important milestones for Stena RoRo.
"These vessels are the result of good cooperation between Stena RoRo and the AVIC Weihai Shipyard. With their strong design capabilities, Stena Line will be able to optimise its capacity to accommodate the vessels within most parts of its route network", says Per Westling, MD Stena RoRo.
As with the previous E-Flexer vessels ordered by Stena, energy efficiency and sustainability will be key design features.
"We want to lead the development of sustainable shipping and set new industry standards when it comes to operational performance, emissions and cost competiveness," says Niclas Mårtensson.
The two new ships on order will be larger than the three E-Flexer designs currently being built for Stena Line. The first three E-Flexer ships will be 215 meters long with 3 100 lane meters whilst the next two ships will measure 240 meters with a freight capacity of 3 600 lane meters.
"We are building on our successful RoPax concept mixing freight and passenger traffic. Through standardisation we can secure a reliable operation and by investing in tonnage that is flexible we can provide an even better product that will ultimately support our customers and help them to grow", said Niclas Mårtensson.
A total of eight vessels have now been ordered by Stena from Avic Weihai Shipyard in China. The first one is planned to operate on Holyhead-Dublin and the next two delivered to Stena Line are planned to operate on the Liverpool-Belfast service. Three other vessels will be chartered out to external ferry operators by Stena RoRo.
Facts about E-Flexer 7 and 8
Length over all (LOA): 239,7 m
Width: 27,8 m
Draught, max: 6,4 m
Pax capacity: 1200
No of cabins: 263
Capacity: 3 600 lm
Great news on E-Flexer 7 & 8, would think there will be more of these ordered.
7&8 could replace Spirit/ Vision / Baltica and (Nordica which is returning soon) on Poland route.
Given the success of the still untested vessels so far, could we see double figures.
Quote from: giftgrub on July 18, 2018, 07:39:02 PM
Great news on E-Flexer 7 & 8, would think there will be more of these ordered.
7&8 could replace Spirit/ Vision / Baltica and (Nordica which is returning soon) on Poland route.
Given the success of the still untested vessels so far, could we see double figures.
Quite possible, Stena have an option on a further 4, (E-Flexer 9-12) and are currently deciding weather to exercise that option, I had a feeling 7&8 would be ordered, but even I am surprised that the class may now run to 12, that said 7&8 will be different, 1-6 are 215M long and have 3100 lanemeters, 7&8 however will be 240M long and have 3600 lanemeters.
And for a rumoured 100 or 120 million US dollars each, quite a bargain if the vessels work as planned.
As a comparison P&O paid a reported 180 million euro (210 US dollar) for Spirit of Britain, a different type of ferry but a massive price difference.
Would expect more charters and more orders as Stena RoRo can capitalise on older vessels needing to be replaced and a steady supply of new ferries coming through.
P&O themselves might be prime candidates to take two having seen DFDS take one for Dover.
Possibly biggest ferry series ordered since the Stena freight series built by Hyundai in the seventies.
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/stena_runner_1977.htm
With the current uncertainty regarding the "brexit" fiasco I would not be surprised to see one of the bigger E Flexers being provisionally earmarked for Rosslare-Cherbourg route.
Quote from: ferryfan on July 18, 2018, 11:10:27 PM
With the current uncertainty regarding the "brexit" fiasco I would not be surprised to see one of the bigger E Flexers being provisionally earmarked for Rosslare-Cherbourg route.
I would - both ports would need work for a start. We are talking about a 240m long twin-level loading vessel after all - in the case that IF Brexit ends up in a large increase of Ireland to France freight, a second ship would probably be a better option (perhaps even operating to Dublin) as it would increase frequency as well. If anywhere on the Irish Sea is to get the longer version E-Flexer I would have thought it would be Dublin to Holyhead, a route were an increase in frequency isn't an option and Stena's competitor is increasing capacity, but again that would need infrastructure work. Pretty sure a 240m long vessel could operate Karlskrona to Gdynia without any major work though, and the route is crying out for more capacity. The four options (if exercised) could be any length anyway. For all we know they could even be planing a short version!
Quote from: Steven on July 19, 2018, 12:26:44 AM
Quote from: ferryfan on July 18, 2018, 11:10:27 PM
With the current uncertainty regarding the "brexit" fiasco I would not be surprised to see one of the bigger E Flexers being provisionally earmarked for Rosslare-Cherbourg route.
I would - both ports would need work for a start. We are talking about a 240m long twin-level loading vessel after all - in the case that IF Brexit ends up in a large increase of Ireland to France freight, a second ship would probably be a better option (perhaps even operating to Dublin) as it would increase frequency as well. If anywhere on the Irish Sea is to get the longer version E-Flexer I would have thought it would be Dublin to Holyhead, a route were an increase in frequency isn't an option and Stena's competitor is increasing capacity, but again that would need infrastructure work. Pretty sure a 240m long vessel could operate Karlskrona to Gdynia without any major work though, and the route is crying out for more capacity. The four options (if exercised) could be any length anyway. For all we know they could even be planing a short version!
The short version would be for Fishguard then! Joke.
Matt
I was on the 1400 from Holyhead this afternoon the ship was completely full. It was very uncomfortable and very disorganised. There were 7 or 8 bus loads of foot pax. At Holyhead the check in desks the queue stretched from the desks to beyond the entrance to the train station. Check in opened at the usual time of 1300 with only two desks open for about 30 minutes before they opened a third. Security then decided to check every single item of luggage through the x ray scanner. As usual passengers were crammed onto the filthy dirty transfer buses. On arrival in Dublin (we were about 30 minutes late) there was a long delay in getting the buses on to the ship and chaos in the luggage hall with suitcases blocking the way out. I was sitting on one of the Mortons coaches for about 30 minutes before it left.
Stena knew in advance that it was going to be an extremely busy crossing but did not do a good job of handling matters. Their staff were, as always, very pleasant but there was simply not enough of them.
That's disappointing as Stena are generally very good to travel with but Adventurer is great until it's full. It's not really built for mounds of foot pax.
Incredible that Stena are not geared up for such large loads given the number of weeks this has dragged on for.
A good friend of mine that works onboard for Stena says that they are dealing well with extra passengers transferred from IF. However, the lack of information the pax have received from IF makes a number very irate and angry - and the Stena crew have to deal with that!. Stena's pax numbers for the time of year are already high, with the angry extras makes their shifts difficult.
An example would be a passenger (who had paid for an upgrade to Club on IF) insisting that they were upgraded to StenaPlus, (bookings/upgrades haven't transferred) being so abusive (swearing and shouting) to a crew member bringing her to tears - needless to say the pax wasn't upgraded!
Quote from: LongTimeReader on July 25, 2018, 10:50:51 AM
That's disappointing as Stena are generally very good to travel with but Adventurer is great until it's full. It's not really built for mounds of foot pax.
Incredible that Stena are not geared up for such large loads given the number of weeks this has dragged on for.
Incredible that Stena aren't geared up? Let's not forget that it is Irish Ferries that are down a ship, what are they doing about it apart from moving the problem to their competition? It doesn't help that the information Irish Ferries have been giving out is minimal, nor that they aren't telling anyone when the vessel has been further delayed (including Stena) until they absolutely have to!
Quote from: ferryfan on July 24, 2018, 10:35:18 PM
I was on the 1400 from Holyhead this afternoon the ship was completely full. It was very uncomfortable and very disorganised. There were 7 or 8 bus loads of foot pax. At Holyhead the check in desks the queue stretched from the desks to beyond the entrance to the train station. Check in opened at the usual time of 1300 with only two desks open for about 30 minutes before they opened a third. Security then decided to check every single item of luggage through the x ray scanner. As usual passengers were crammed onto the filthy dirty transfer buses. On arrival in Dublin (we were about 30 minutes late) there was a long delay in getting the buses on to the ship and chaos in the luggage hall with suitcases blocking the way out. I was sitting on one of the Mortons coaches for about 30 minutes before it left.
Stena knew in advance that it was going to be an extremely busy crossing but did not do a good job of handling matters. Their staff were, as always, very pleasant but there was simply not enough of them.
You mention the filthy passengner transfer buses. How is it that the IF's berth has a foot passenger gangway, but not the Stena berth which is right next to it? I appreciate that it costs money to erect these structures, but weren't both berths built at the same time?
Matt
Actually, No! Irish ferries Terminal (Known as Terminal 3), including the walkway, which is only accessible from the Irish Ferries Building, was constructed several years before Terminal 5. It was first used for the Isle of Innisfree, then Isle of Inishmore prior to the introduction of Ulysses. At that time, Stena were using the (now defunct) single tier loading Terminal 4 for ro-ro only, as all pax travelled on Stena Explorer from Terminal 1.
Terminal 5 was later constructed for the introduction of Stena Adventurer and also involved land reclamation to make sufficient space for their trailer park.
Quote from: Matt73 on July 28, 2018, 05:03:18 PM
You mention the filthy passengner transfer buses. How is it that the IF's berth has a foot passenger gangway, but not the Stena berth which is right next to it? I appreciate that it costs money to erect these structures, but weren't both berths built at the same time?
Matt
Also, gangway hasn't been in use for many years after storm damage - and from memory the structure has now been removed
Quote from: anglesey_boy on July 28, 2018, 08:37:28 PM
Quote from: Matt73 on July 28, 2018, 05:03:18 PM
You mention the filthy passengner transfer buses. How is it that the IF's berth has a foot passenger gangway, but not the Stena berth which is right next to it? I appreciate that it costs money to erect these structures, but weren't both berths built at the same time?
Matt
Also, gangway hasn't been in use for many years after storm damage - and from memory the structure has now been removed
I recall reading somewhere at least partial disassembly had commenced.
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STENA SCOTIA is officially returning to Belfast
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-scotia-belfast-return/
The gangway was removed earlier this summer. There are scafholding towers between berths 3 and 5.
I was told a new Gangway was going to be build to meet both Stena and Irish Ferries requirements.
Lets see if it happens.
Quote from: IFPete on July 29, 2018, 05:14:02 PM
The gangway was removed earlier this summer. There are scafholding towers between berths 3 and 5.
I was told a new Gangway was going to be build to meet both Stena and Irish Ferries requirements.
Lets see if it happens.
Thanks!
Matt
Quote from: IFPete on July 29, 2018, 05:14:02 PM
The gangway was removed earlier this summer. There are scafholding towers between berths 3 and 5.
I was told a new Gangway was going to be build to meet both Stena and Irish Ferries requirements.
Lets see if it happens.
Possibly in conjunction with the forthcoming port redevelopment I would think
STENA FORERUNNER is coming to Belfast, increasing capacity on the Birkenhead run. She's one of three sisters which are a larger version of the 4-Runner design STENA CARRIER is based on. She will be replaced early in the new year by a vessel of similar capacity so she can return to the North Sea. Stena Line are quoting an impressive growth this year of 6% on the Birkenhead route, and I'm sure the extra capacity and flexibility this vessel gives will be very welcome. It's telling that they appear to be sacrificing a vessel on the North Sea (although only until next year, unless I guess something suitable turns up in the meantime) to offer customers continuity at Belfast!
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-new-belfast-liverpool-vessel/
Edited to add more info :)
Hi folks,
I'm traveling on adventurer soon enough with my nephew on a day trip.
Does anyone have any experience or advice on how to best arrange a bridge visit? Where to ask, who to email etc?
Thanks in advance
N
Quote from: Ncol on August 10, 2018, 06:07:41 AM
Hi folks,
I'm traveling on adventurer soon enough with my nephew on a day trip.
Does anyone have any experience or advice on how to best arrange a bridge visit? Where to ask, who to email etc?
Thanks in advance
N
Try writing to head office and asking nicely, you never know it might be possible.
Superfast X had to return to Dublin yesterday afternoon after departing due to a medical emergency on board
Quite a few changes in the Stena Line / RoRo fleet in recent weeks.
On the North channel the Stena Scotia and Stena Forerunner have replaced the Seatruck twins
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-performer-re-emerges-from-dry-dock-as-seatruck-performance/
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-heysham-birkenhead-update/
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-forerunner-in-belfast-first-time/
On the RoRo side they have sold two of their freighters which must have been very annoying for the Stena
Line North Sea operation which has two of its vessels switch to the North channel, could have been handy to use these to cover on the North Sea
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-confirm-the-sale-of-stena-carrier-and-stena-freighter-to-unknown-buyers/
Stena Carrier is going to Baja ferries in Mexico and spent a few weeks in Dun Laoghaire earlier this year.
And in Sweden the new Stena Vinga is in drydock being transformed from the Hammerode to Stena Vinga and repainted in Stena Livery and joining the Danica and Jutlandica in Gothenburg.
Quote from: giftgrub on September 04, 2018, 10:10:17 PM
Quite a few changes in the Stena Line / RoRo fleet in recent weeks.
On the North channel the Stena Scotia and Stena Forerunner have replaced the Seatruck twins
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-performer-re-emerges-from-dry-dock-as-seatruck-performance/
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-heysham-birkenhead-update/
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-forerunner-in-belfast-first-time/
Re the Harwich-Europort service, is this a reflection of declining volumes? As I understand it, that's why the Carrier and the Freighter were replaced by the Cobelfret twins. The Harwich-Hook route giants seem to be swallowing most of it.
Incidentally, I assume that Hollandica/Britannica have more lane metres than even the forthcoming stretched E-Flexer?
Matt
Matt
On the RoRo side they have sold two of their freighters which must have been very annoying for the Stena
Line North Sea operation which has two of its vessels switch to the North channel, could have been handy to use these to cover on the North Sea
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-confirm-the-sale-of-stena-carrier-and-stena-freighter-to-unknown-buyers/
Stena Carrier is going to Baja ferries in Mexico and spent a few weeks in Dun Laoghaire earlier this year.
And in Sweden the new Stena Vinga is in drydock being transformed from the Hammerode to Stena Vinga and repainted in Stena Livery and joining the Danica and Jutlandica in Gothenburg.
In relation to the North Sea twins they have 5,500 lane metres while the EFlexer + will have 3,600, so still a massive difference in size.
In relation to the North channel, the Forerunner is expected to go back to the North Sea in January and I would expect the next of the sister vessels in the Stena RoRo fleet to come off charter to replace it.
They can carry huge volumes of freight and next year, this may be very important, time to get ready and have capacity available.
Great E Flexer article here
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-e-flexer-overview/
(Thanks to all involved in niferry site, great resource to have available)
Quote from: giftgrub on September 05, 2018, 10:14:54 PM
In relation to the North Sea twins they have 5,500 lane metres while the EFlexer + will have 3,600, so still a massive difference in size.
In relation to the North channel, the Forerunner is expected to go back to the North Sea in January and I would expect the next of the sister vessels in the Stena RoRo fleet to come off charter to replace it.
They can carry huge volumes of freight and next year, this may be very important, time to get ready and have capacity available.
Great E Flexer article here
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-e-flexer-overview/
Thank you as always. I had a feeling there was a big difference in lane metres, but couldn't recall prescisely.
Matt
(Thanks to all involved in niferry site, great resource to have available)
SFX carrying out berthing trials on berth 49 in Dublin this afternoon?
Quote from: ferryfan on September 09, 2018, 04:43:17 PM
SFX carrying out berthing trials on berth 49 in Dublin this afternoon?
She did.
Quote from: giftgrub on September 05, 2018, 10:14:54 PM
In relation to the North Sea twins they have 5,500 lane metres while the EFlexer + will have 3,600, so still a massive difference in size.
In relation to the North channel, the Forerunner is expected to go back to the North Sea in January and I would expect the next of the sister vessels in the Stena RoRo fleet to come off charter to replace it.
They can carry huge volumes of freight and next year, this may be very important, time to get ready and have capacity available.
Great E Flexer article here
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-e-flexer-overview/
(Thanks to all involved in niferry site, great resource to have available)
Thanks for your kind comments GG. Hopefully I (and of course the contributors) can continue to provide a useful resource. (I've been unable to login here for some time but finally achieved it this evening)
STENA VINGA is now in service (and looking much nicer in Stena livery) and has released STENA GOTHICA to replace STENA NORDICA on Travemünde-Liepaja
STENA NORDICA will be returning to the Karlskrona - Gdynia route again next month as an additional vessel (HUGE growth on that route)
STENA FREIGHTER has been sold to Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin and will transport rocket components!
Quote from: Steven on September 23, 2018, 08:14:12 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on September 05, 2018, 10:14:54 PM
In relation to the North Sea twins they have 5,500 lane metres while the EFlexer + will have 3,600, so still a massive difference in size.
In relation to the North channel, the Forerunner is expected to go back to the North Sea in January and I would expect the next of the sister vessels in the Stena RoRo fleet to come off charter to replace it.
They can carry huge volumes of freight and next year, this may be very important, time to get ready and have capacity available.
Great E Flexer article here
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-e-flexer-overview/
(Thanks to all involved in niferry site, great resource to have available)
Thanks for your kind comments GG. Hopefully I (and of course the contributors) can continue to provide a useful resource. (I've been unable to login here for some time but finally achieved it this evening)
STENA VINGA is now in service (and looking much nicer in Stena livery) and has released STENA GOTHICA to replace STENA NORDICA on Travemünde-Liepaja
STENA NORDICA will be returning to the Karlskrona - Gdynia route again next month as an additional vessel (HUGE growth on that route)
STENA FREIGHTER has been sold to Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin and will transport rocket components!
Thanks Steven,
Re Karlskrona-Gydnia, do you think that the stretched E-Flexers might be destined there?
Matt
The E-Flexer+ are practically designed for the Poland Sweden services, replace four Ferries with two.
Stena Vinga seems to be settling down to service on Gothenburg Fredrickshaven although there were big delays as it does not have a bow ramp on first few crossings.
Images
http://teienforumbilder.blogspot.com/2018/09/blog-post.html
Wonder if we will see Stena Vinga on Irish Sea providing cover during refit period ?
Quote from: Matt73 on September 26, 2018, 05:31:25 PM
Quote from: Steven on September 23, 2018, 08:14:12 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on September 05, 2018, 10:14:54 PM
In relation to the North Sea twins they have 5,500 lane metres while the EFlexer + will have 3,600, so still a massive difference in size.
In relation to the North channel, the Forerunner is expected to go back to the North Sea in January and I would expect the next of the sister vessels in the Stena RoRo fleet to come off charter to replace it.
They can carry huge volumes of freight and next year, this may be very important, time to get ready and have capacity available.
Great E Flexer article here
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-e-flexer-overview/
(Thanks to all involved in niferry site, great resource to have available)
Thanks for your kind comments GG. Hopefully I (and of course the contributors) can continue to provide a useful resource. (I've been unable to login here for some time but finally achieved it this evening)
STENA VINGA is now in service (and looking much nicer in Stena livery) and has released STENA GOTHICA to replace STENA NORDICA on Travemünde-Liepaja
STENA NORDICA will be returning to the Karlskrona - Gdynia route again next month as an additional vessel (HUGE growth on that route)
STENA FREIGHTER has been sold to Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin and will transport rocket components!
Thanks Steven,
Re Karlskrona-Gydnia, do you think that the stretched E-Flexers might be destined there?
Matt
Totally possible. Chances are Stena haven't even 100% decided yet though. Volumes on that route seem to only be going one way, and running 4 vessels just to meet demand can't be that efficient.
Quote from: giftgrub on September 26, 2018, 10:18:22 PM
The E-Flexer+ are practically designed for the Poland Sweden services, replace four Ferries with two.
Stena Vinga seems to be settling down to service on Gothenburg Fredrickshaven although there were big delays as it does not have a bow ramp on first few crossings.
Images
http://teienforumbilder.blogspot.com/2018/09/blog-post.html
Wonder if we will see Stena Vinga on Irish Sea providing cover during refit period ?
With how traffic is growing I wouldn't be surprised if one of the current vessels stayed on IF the two larger E-Flexers go there anyway.
I'd rule STENA VINGA out as refit relief on the Irish Sea because of her stern-only loading capability and freight capacity. Given how successful she has been in the past Nordica would be my bet to be honest - she can literally cover every route in the Irish Sea network (except Heysham of course) if required.
There's also E-Flexer number 1 to hopefully turn up at some stage as well of course. It could be an interesting year for Stena Line Irish Sea with the odd surprise as well.
Rumor on the Facebook that Stena Nordica will indeed be providing refit cover for the Irish Sea fleet in 2019, also providing cover for Stena Europe next year. Space charter on Inishmore not happening.
It remains to be seen if Europe gets its mega life extender refit which might be scrubbers , MES and various other major jobs, or the Irish Sea fleet keeps Superfast X and Europe gets replaced or even sent back to Sweden alongside Stena Nautica.
Looking at the Europe and when sailed on her in august, the so called "new stern ramps" are to me very likely to be prepared to fit the ramp in Gothenburg or another port like the new one in Halmstad if she is supposed to go there, might be wrong but.... And i mean, the rusted out bar that was running along the ship, might be as well be a preparation to make the MES possible. If she's supposed to be done soon why would they invest in new name signs on deck 10 and so on.
But there was a rumour that Stena also want to keep the Vision and Spirit going for TWENTY more years?!?! To me it would be very surprising it would. According to me Stena Line has the biggest quantity of old vessels (30+ years old) going in Northern Europe, and even if Stena Europe would be replaced and finished they still face the challenge of replacing the Saga, Danica, Nautica, Vision, Spirit and the Sassnitz on Trelleborg-Sassnitz route. Still so many of them left...
All totally valid points, one would think that Europe will be kept, only downside would be how many millions it requires, possible additional work
Scrubbers
MES
Enclosed bridge wings
Engine, gearbox, prop shaft refurbish/ renewal
Fuel tanks/ballast tanks, replace renew
Complete strip back to bare metal hull and decks and replace fatigued areas
Replace windows and frames
Refurbish cabins, toilets and crew areas
Refit passenger areas
Replace customer toilets
However if they were to spend and get another 10 years from the ferry, money well spent given a new ferry is 100 million +
Could we see the Superfast 10 on the Rosslare Fishguard Route ? . The reason I say this is when the new e Flexer arrives on Dublin Holyhead route in 2020 where will Superfast 10 go ?? .Of course I do not know if it will fit the Berth in FIshguard and indeed its a year away . However it may be an deal Candidate for the route.
Quote from: SEA on November 26, 2018, 04:52:12 PM
Could we see the Superfast 10 on the Rosslare Fishguard Route ? . The reason I say this is when the new e Flexer arrives on Dublin Holyhead route in 2020 where will Superfast 10 go ?? .Of course I do not know if it will fit the Berth in FIshguard and indeed its a year away . However it may be an deal Candidate for the route.
Not without the huge infrastructure investment that has already been ruled out for now. Even then she's far from ideal anyway. I can't see SFX staying in the Stena fleet to be honest.
Quote from: seaman on November 24, 2018, 09:10:24 PM
Looking at the Europe and when sailed on her in august, the so called "new stern ramps" are to me very likely to be prepared to fit the ramp in Gothenburg or another port like the new one in Halmstad if she is supposed to go there, might be wrong but.... And i mean, the rusted out bar that was running along the ship, might be as well be a preparation to make the MES possible. If she's supposed to be done soon why would they invest in new name signs on deck 10 and so on.
But there was a rumour that Stena also want to keep the Vision and Spirit going for TWENTY more years?!?! To me it would be very surprising it would. According to me Stena Line has the biggest quantity of old vessels (30+ years old) going in Northern Europe, and even if Stena Europe would be replaced and finished they still face the challenge of replacing the Saga, Danica, Nautica, Vision, Spirit and the Sassnitz on Trelleborg-Sassnitz route. Still so many of them left...
Why would they ever want to move Europe to Gothenburg. Part of the reason for moving to Halmstad is to allow the use of larger modern tonnage - a 40 year old ferry with small vehicle decks by modern standards would be the opposite of this.
Life extension of Stena Europe is Fishguard's best bet at the moment IMHO. It'll be a big investment though, but as giftgrub says a lot cheaper than a new build. Such a new build would also have limited use elsewhere of course as it would need to be built for the Fishguard route which is a bit unusual by modern standards in terms of traffic. Getting say 10 years out of Europe (which has been long paid for) would give Stena time to assess the situation with regard to the route and decide whether to put in major money or walk away. Given the huge cost of upgrading Fishguard to accommodate more modern tonnage which might not be as suitable as the existing vessel anyway, it might be cheaper to just upgrade Stena Europe instead! Stena aren't the only large operator with older tonnage - perhaps we will see a lot more life extension happening given the costs of building new.
According to Shippax, STENA FORECASTER and STENA FORETELLER have been sold to unknown buyers. The pair are of course sisters to STENA FORERUNNER (forming the Stena 4-Runner Mk2 class) which is currently the dedicated freight vessel on the Belfast - Birkenhead service. The latter is expected to move back to the North Sea in the new year when replaced by an as-yet unknown alternative vessel.
This latest sale means Stena only have one of each Stena 4-Runner Mk1 and Mk2 classes left owned by the group (ARK FORWARDER and STENA FORERUNNER respectively)
Quote from: Steven on November 26, 2018, 08:35:58 PM
According to Shippax, STENA FORECASTER and STENA FORETELLER have been sold to unknown buyers. The pair are of course sisters to STENA FORERUNNER (forming the Stena 4-Runner Mk2 class) which is currently the dedicated freight vessel on the Belfast - Birkenhead service. The latter is expected to move back to the North Sea in the new year when replaced by an as-yet unknown alternative vessel.
This latest sale means Stena only have one of each Stena 4-Runner Mk1 and Mk2 classes left owned by the group (ARK FORWARDER and STENA FORERUNNER respectively)
Leaves Stena RoRo with a very reduced fleet, looks like they are winding down the chartering operations, however Stena always spring a surprise, what chance Epsilon (according to Facebook being returned when/if WB Y arrives) arriving to replace Forerunner in new year ?
Also apparently FSG are going to build more RoRo freight vessels, ideal for Stena RoRo if cheap enough.
Quote from: giftgrub on November 26, 2018, 08:44:09 PM
Quote from: Steven on November 26, 2018, 08:35:58 PM
According to Shippax, STENA FORECASTER and STENA FORETELLER have been sold to unknown buyers. The pair are of course sisters to STENA FORERUNNER (forming the Stena 4-Runner Mk2 class) which is currently the dedicated freight vessel on the Belfast - Birkenhead service. The latter is expected to move back to the North Sea in the new year when replaced by an as-yet unknown alternative vessel.
This latest sale means Stena only have one of each Stena 4-Runner Mk1 and Mk2 classes left owned by the group (ARK FORWARDER and STENA FORERUNNER respectively)
Leaves Stena RoRo with a very reduced fleet, looks like they are winding down the chartering operations, however Stena always spring a surprise, what chance Epsilon (according to Facebook being returned when/if WB Y arrives) arriving to replace Forerunner in new year ?
Also apparently FSG are going to build more RoRo freight vessels, ideal for Stena RoRo if cheap enough.
Stena tend to build to their own design when ordering new. The two FSG vessels appear to have been speculatively built for Siem (FSG's parent) as Tirrenia's ALF POLLAK and MARIA GRAZIA ONORATO also where.
I don't see the chartering operation being wound down - ship buying, selling, and chartering is core to Stena's operations. However it is no secret that if the price is right Stena will sell. These larger vessels are now in demand so it makes sense to move them on while the prices are good - they may have already paid for themselves in charter fees anyway! Perhaps we'll see an order for some even bigger Stena RoRo vessels in the near future. The 4-Runners were big when ordered but compared to what's being ordered these days are small. Stena have built a business on ordering vessels before they are in demand after all, and it makes sense to clear the old "stock" before replacing it if the market is favourable!
Interesting times for Stena RoRo ironically when Stena Line could do with some large freighters, their sister company that had them, sell them on.
You are probably correct in that previous charter fees have paid for the ships sold, so they are probably making a handsome profit at the time when they some massive expenditures on the EFlexer series and options for other vessels in the series.
Will be interesting to see what replaces Forerunner in 2019, might Nordica be kept on a Irish Sea ?, Epsilon chartered / purchased or something else?
I think you'll find they need a dedicated freight ship as opposed to something like Nordica or Epsilon which are passenger vessels. The reason for this is the inability of passenger vessels to carry many classes of hazardous goods which 12 driver RoRo ships are permitted to.
Adventurer departed Dublin about 3 hours late this morning to to a gale from the East closing the Port.
Europe cancelled from Rosslare tomorrow due stormy forecast.
Quote from: RorieLen on November 26, 2018, 10:33:38 PM
I think you'll find they need a dedicated freight ship as opposed to something like Nordica or Epsilon which are passenger vessels. The reason for this is the inability of passenger vessels to carry many classes of hazardous goods which 12 driver RoRo ships are permitted to.
Exactly this. Prior to the dedicated freight vessel I believe these loads had to go via Heysham.
Stena Line Ireland - France bookings reported to be 30% up on this time last year.
https://www.businesspost.ie/news/france-bookings-boost-stena-line-irish-ferries-flounders-without-new-ship-431995
(Behind paywall) but given the issues with IF a very believable figure.
#2415
November 26, 2018, 08:35:58 PM
According to Shippax, STENA FORECASTER and STENA FORETELLER have been sold to unknown buyers. The pair are of course sisters to STENA FORERUNNER (forming the Stena 4-Runner Mk2 class) which is currently the dedicated freight vessel on the Belfast - Birkenhead service. The latter is expected to move back to the North Sea in the new year when replaced by an as-yet unknown alternative vessel.
This latest sale means Stena only have one of each Stena 4-Runner Mk1 and Mk2 classes left owned by the group (ARK FORWARDER and STENA FORERUNNER respectively)
My understanding is that the ARK FORWARDER which is now the MSC BRIDGE was sold by Stena to MSC in May. She was initially chartered by them back in March and operates to Rades in Tunisia from Italy carrying containers which are loaded onto her vehicle decks. MSC apparently wanted the vessel because of delays loading containers conventionally in Tunisa. The sale leaves the Stena Forerunner as the only remaining 4-Runner owned by Stena but for how much longer?
Matt D.
According to the live Stena Line freight timetables the Cherbourg sailings of the STENA HORIZON appear to be cancelled from 1st of January and she appears to be operating on the Birkenhead - Belfast route. Presumably whilst the vessels on there are dry docked?
Matt D.
Not expected, rumors were Stena Nordica coming over to cover all refits on North, Central and Southern channel operations where required.
Further research indicates that Horizon will indeed cover Lagan and Mersey with Nordica covering Horizon.
Also then Nordica will cover all three Superfast refits and the Europe refit.
Unconfirmed rumors that the Nordica is expected to stay in Rosslare covering the Europe for an extended time period, possibly giving an indication that this year refit could be the big life extending overhaul.
Quote from: Matt D on December 06, 2018, 07:34:16 AM
According to the live Stena Line freight timetables the Cherbourg sailings of the STENA HORIZON appear to be cancelled from 1st of January and she appears to be operating on the Birkenhead - Belfast route. Presumably whilst the vessels on there are dry docked?
Matt D.
The only "cancellations" I've seen over the past 2 days on the route are what I'd normally expect to see over the Xmas and New Year period. The problem of course with the live timetable is just that - it's live! If something is being changed on it then thats what you see, even if it's only temporary while something else is being changed. At present Horizon is showing as being on her own route and the Birkenhead route at the same time, with Lagan being the other vessel on the Birkenhead run for the entirety of January! Thats obviously not going to be the case if both vessels are to be dry docked this year, which I believe they are.
It has been normal practice in recent years for Horizon to cover Birkenhead though, while the relief vessel covers the France route (Flavia or Nordica in recent years). Still no public announcement as to the relief vessel but I'd be surprised if it isn't Nordica tbh. I'm sure something public will appear in the coming days or weeks anyway, given we are talking 3 weeks away now. Perhaps they are delaying the "announcement" for operational or commercial reasons?
Edit: by something public I don't necessarily mean any specific announcement or press release, more likely the name of the vessel on the timetable will simply change or a different vessel will just appear! Bookings are still being taken so there's definitely something running
Yes Steven there must be a live element at play because the Rosslare - Cherbourg sailings of STENA HORIZON were shown as being cancelled throughout the first week of January and resuming part way through the second week when I looked.
Interestingly on the live Birkenhead timetable a random message about Fleetwood - Larne was displayed on Christmas Day!
Matt D
Quote from: Matt D on December 05, 2018, 10:44:08 PM
#2415
November 26, 2018, 08:35:58 PM
According to Shippax, STENA FORECASTER and STENA FORETELLER have been sold to unknown buyers. The pair are of course sisters to STENA FORERUNNER (forming the Stena 4-Runner Mk2 class) which is currently the dedicated freight vessel on the Belfast - Birkenhead service. The latter is expected to move back to the North Sea in the new year when replaced by an as-yet unknown alternative vessel.
This latest sale means Stena only have one of each Stena 4-Runner Mk1 and Mk2 classes left owned by the group (ARK FORWARDER and STENA FORERUNNER respectively)
My understanding is that the ARK FORWARDER which is now the MSC BRIDGE was sold by Stena to MSC in May. She was initially chartered by them back in March and operates to Rades in Tunisia from Italy carrying containers which are loaded onto her vehicle decks. MSC apparently wanted the vessel because of delays loading containers conventionally in Tunisa. The sale leaves the Stena Forerunner as the only remaining 4-Runner owned by Stena but for how much longer?
Matt D.
Nothing about her sale on any of the Stena trading updates that I can see which would be expected if she had sold been like her sisters (as laid-down).
There was something about the sale of Ark Fowarder / MSC Bridge over the weekend, cannot find it now, did have an Image of the ferry with light yellowish funnels.
Quote from: giftgrub on December 10, 2018, 09:19:59 PM
There was something about the sale of Ark Fowarder / MSC Bridge over the weekend, cannot find it now, did have an Image of the ferry with light yellowish funnels.
Found post on a Stena enthusiast page on The Facebook it has been edited I think from its original form based on a reply from Steven, has the image I saw.
In other news the Stena Adventurer is getting a Hygge lounge
https://www.stenaline.ie/ferries/stena-adventurer/hyggelounge
Will probably find its way onto Superfast X and maybe even Stena Europe also during their respective refits.
My understanding is that the ARK FORWARDER which is now the MSC BRIDGE was sold by Stena to MSC in May. She was initially chartered by them back in March and operates to Rades in Tunisia from Italy carrying containers which are loaded onto her vehicle decks. MSC apparently wanted the vessel because of delays loading containers conventionally in Tunisa. The sale leaves the Stena Forerunner as the only remaining 4-Runner owned by Stena but for how much longer?
Matt D.
Nothing about her sale on any of the Stena trading updates that I can see which would be expected if she had sold been like her sisters (as laid-down).
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Last Edit: December 10, 2018, 08:54:45 PM by Steven
Yes it's odd isn't it that nothing appears to have been announced. Equasis shows MSC as the registered owner since 23 May 2018
Matt D
Quote from: Steven on December 08, 2018, 02:16:27 AM
Quote from: Matt D on December 06, 2018, 07:34:16 AM
According to the live Stena Line freight timetables the Cherbourg sailings of the STENA HORIZON appear to be cancelled from 1st of January and she appears to be operating on the Birkenhead - Belfast route. Presumably whilst the vessels on there are dry docked?
Matt D.
The only "cancellations" I've seen over the past 2 days on the route are what I'd normally expect to see over the Xmas and New Year period. The problem of course with the live timetable is just that - it's live! If something is being changed on it then thats what you see, even if it's only temporary while something else is being changed. At present Horizon is showing as being on her own route and the Birkenhead route at the same time, with Lagan being the other vessel on the Birkenhead run for the entirety of January! Thats obviously not going to be the case if both vessels are to be dry docked this year, which I believe they are.
It has been normal practice in recent years for Horizon to cover Birkenhead though, while the relief vessel covers the France route (Flavia or Nordica in recent years). Still no public announcement as to the relief vessel but I'd be surprised if it isn't Nordica tbh. I'm sure something public will appear in the coming days or weeks anyway, given we are talking 3 weeks away now. Perhaps they are delaying the "announcement" for operational or commercial reasons?
Edit: by something public I don't necessarily mean any specific announcement or press release, more likely the name of the vessel on the timetable will simply change or a different vessel will just appear! Bookings are still being taken so there's definitely something running
I just had a call from Stena re my booking Cherbourg-Rosslare on 4th Jan. They are offering all sorts of inducements to go Landbridge, but this means travelling to Calais-Dover and then to Fishguard-Rosslare. They say this is because they are using a smaller ship to replace Stena Horizon.
Stena Nordica is the replacement for Horizon.
Quote from: Matt D on December 11, 2018, 09:27:22 PM
My understanding is that the ARK FORWARDER which is now the MSC BRIDGE was sold by Stena to MSC in May. She was initially chartered by them back in March and operates to Rades in Tunisia from Italy carrying containers which are loaded onto her vehicle decks. MSC apparently wanted the vessel because of delays loading containers conventionally in Tunisa. The sale leaves the Stena Forerunner as the only remaining 4-Runner owned by Stena but for how much longer?
Matt D.
Nothing about her sale on any of the Stena trading updates that I can see which would be expected if she had sold been like her sisters (as laid-down).
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Last Edit: December 10, 2018, 08:54:45 PM by Steven
Yes it's odd isn't it that nothing appears to have been announced. Equasis shows MSC as the registered owner since 23 May 2018
Matt D
Asking around it seems she might be on some sort of hire-purchase type arrangement, rather than it having been a straight sale.
Images posted on a The Facebook today show the Stena Europe has a dent on the Starboard side of the bow above the clamshell doors.
Looks like it whacked the berth in Fishguard during the recent windy weather and hit one of the legs that support the ramp.
Damage looks superficial so more than fixable during refit.
Some nice videos on this link of various Stena Ferries
https://www.stenaroro.com/cases/conversion/
Stena Nordica has appeared on the booking engine covering Horizon during January. Rumours are back regarding life extension for Stena Europe - 2019 could be the year.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-nordica-to-return-to-the-irish-sea-in-2019/
Stena Nordica appears to have finished service in Gdynia, tied up since Dec 22nd and is showing arrival in Gothenburg for December 28th, after that next stop Rosslare.
Stena Nordica is at Gothenburg anchorage bunkering for its trip to Rosslare, currently expected to arrive on Tuesday morning in Rosslare.
The Nordica is not due back in a Sweden until June, this would suggest Stena Europe is going for its life extending refit once the Lagan, Mersey and Superfasts have been refitted.
No confirmation of the Stena Europe refit yet, but given the work required it is expected to take place in a mainland Europe shipyard and if they fit scrubbers (which will soon be required on Irish Sea) we could see the iconic funnel replaced/modified.
Nordica off the coast of Denmark and eta Rosslare Harbour on Tuesday Jan 1st at 10.00 am
First sailing on 3rd Jan Sold Out, 5th Jan Sold out, 8th Jan availability, 10th Jan Sold Out.
So a busy start for Nordica and crew when it returns to service on Irish Sea.
Stena Horizon now in Belfast to provide refit cover for Birkenhead service, Stena Lagan now in drydock.
Nordica has passed Isle of White and due in Rosslare tomorrow morning.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-horizon-arrival-lagan-dry-dock/
Stena Forerunner expected in Rosslare in the morning to cover for Nordica making a return to Cherbourg and back to North channel on Monday.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-forerunner-to-make-rosslare-to-cherbourg-round-trip/
History made for the second time in Rosslare port this evening as there were three Stena Line Ferries in port together
Nordica
Forerunner
Europe
Last time if memory is correct
Horizon
Flavia
Europe
Last time three a Stena together in Rosslare
http://news.stenaline.co.uk/pressreleases/stena-line-continues-to-invest-in-its-fleet-1296320
Stena Forerunner is Due back To Belfast On Monday
Stena Nordica now due to start Cherbourg service on Thursday 10th Jan.
Great image of Stena Lagan in drydock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/31734647927/
Fleet refit press release for 2019, a cool 5 million Sterling
http://news.stenaline.co.uk/pressreleases/stena-line-invests-ps5m-in-fleet-upgrade-2822761?fbclid=IwAR3o20wyn3pcXmbhU7ft-rl86Mbdle5cAbXPxaxkd3VIqRlKedNeiacKzyU
Harland and Wolff Shipyard Chosen for Ferry Refits
Leading ferry company Stena Line has started work on a £5m refit programme of its local ferry fleet at Belfast's Harland and Wolff shipyard. The 10-week upgrade schedule will see five Stena Line vessels dry docked consecutively to facilitate refurbishment and maintenance works.
Paul Grant, Stena Line Trade Director (Irish Sea North) said: "Regular ship refits are an important element in our ship management operation which helps to maintain our excellent reliability and keeps our Irish Sea fleet to the forefront of the ferry sector. We're pleased that we are continuing to work with Harland and Wolff in Belfast to carry out these important upgrades, helping to secure the local maritime skills base in Northern Ireland."
Paul Grant added: "Whilst Stena Line has already committed a significant investment to introducing three new ships to the Irish Sea starting in early 2020, it's also important that we continue to improve, develop and invest in our existing fleet of vessels, which is exactly what this contract will do."
Jonathan Guest, Harland and Wolff's Chief Executive Officer, said: "Harland and Wolff is delighted to welcome back five of Stena Line's Irish Sea vessels. Our working partnership with Stena Line is very important not only to our company but to the local economy through its associated supply chain."
Stena Line is the largest ferry operator on the Irish Sea, offering the biggest fleet and the widest choice of routes including Belfast to Liverpool and Heysham, Belfast to Cairnryan, Dublin to Holyhead and Rosslare to Fishguard routes, a total of 238 weekly sailing options between Britain and Ireland. Stena Line also offers a direct service from Rosslare to Cherbourg with three return crossings a week.
Some great images from H&W and Lagan refit here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/46688397801/
Do we know which five ferries are being overhauled at Harland and Wolff?
Where is the Stena Europe going and when?
Stena Europe has gone technical today. Passengers to travel on Irish Ferries from Pembroke Dock
Quote from: marthyrarth on January 12, 2019, 10:37:17 AM
Do we know which five ferries are being overhauled at Harland and Wolff?
Where is the Stena Europe going and when?
Stena Lagan, Stena Mersey, Stena Superfast X, Stena Superfast VII and Stena Superfast VIII each for two weeks at Harland and Wolff. Stena Europe is not going to Belfast this year which might suggest she will be having a more major overhaul - the life extension, perhaps?
stena europe is going to turkey for a 3 mth refit sometime in March, stena nordica will be on the run to cover
Europe will be having a major refit then, including interior upgrades to keep her on at Fishguard for years to come then?
Lagan has returned to service, Mersey now in drydock in H&W.
Stena Europe sailings continue cancellation today due to technical issue.
If as rumored Europe goes to Turkey for life extending refit, there will be a number of areas which will probably be worked on including
MES evacuation system
Mechanical and engineering overhaul for engines etc
Possibly scrubbers fitted / prepared for, to future proof for Irish Sea in advance is sulphur (seca) controls
Bridge wing extensions enclosed
Car deck renewal/ removal of worn metal
Windows- possible replacement of window frames
Hull - Strip back to bare metal and repaint
Nothing confirmed yet, but if they are going to the trouble of spending some serious money it is likely they could refurb some onboard areas also.
Pure speculation / wish list - unlikely to happen but can always dream
Inboard cabins are never on sale, possible refurb for them (creation of Stena suites) would be an idea for families traveling during day and night - similar to Superfast suites on North channel
Cabins - due a refurb to bring up to modern standards but still comfy if not updated.
Barista C View - could do with a make over new large led screen.
Stena + continues to be very popular- possible extension of this area to include more space
Toilets- while recently facelifted, need to be ripped out and rebuilt to modern standards - even put a window in - nobody can see in ! - add natural light
Stena Line branding- if repaint is being done, add the supersize logo as seen on Adventurer.
Also I am sure crew accommodation could be due an overhaul as well.
I think the most visible difference for traveling passengers would be new windows / frames and deck railing as these are the areas where you see corrosion and if done, would improve the age perception very quickly.
As Nordica will be in Ireland until June Europe should be in dock for over two months which will give plenty of time to get work done.
The Food City (or is it a Met now?) is the nastiest space on board and has barely been touched since 2002. So if they are spending money to refit her I'd hope they'd do something to address that.
Met now, forgot about that, never go into it, yes could do with refurb.
Maybe Stena Europe will go to turkey for scrapping.
Surely Stena Europe has the new larger Stena Line hull logo? Was she not painted with it about 2009/2010? One would presume this is proportional to the dimensions of the ship and anything larger would look ridiculous!
Why would Stena Europe even go to turkey for a refit when there are shipyards way closer, Poland or Sweden, Denmark for example??
Is there any source on this or is it just a rumour??
Quote from: seaman on January 13, 2019, 08:03:34 PM
Why would Stena Europe even go to turkey for a refit when there are shipyards way closer, Poland or Sweden, Denmark for example??
Is there any source on this or is it just a rumour??
A lot of rumors from several sources about going that far for a refit, nothing official from Stena on the subject.
Quote from: RorieLen on January 13, 2019, 05:36:00 PM
Surely Stena Europe has the new larger Stena Line hull logo? Was she not painted with it about 2009/2010? One would presume this is proportional to the dimensions of the ship and anything larger would look ridiculous!
Just a wish to make it slightly bigger, always thought slightly undersized,
Quote from: giftgrub on January 13, 2019, 08:39:55 PM
Quote from: seaman on January 13, 2019, 08:03:34 PM
Why would Stena Europe even go to turkey for a refit when there are shipyards way closer, Poland or Sweden, Denmark for example??
Is there any source on this or is it just a rumour??
A lot of rumors from several sources about going that far for a refit, nothing official from Stena on the subject.
I wouldn't hold your breath on an official statement, to be honest. A case of wait and see.
Nothing wrong with Turkish yards.
they are going to turkey because it is much cheaper and the climate because they want to shot blast all the paint off the whole ship, 9 days to get to turkey and 9 days back rest of the time is dry dock, also the dry dock workers work 24hrs a day
If Stena Europe goes on an extended refit will Stena Nordica cover Rosslare - Fishguard during this period.
yes
With the Stena Europe due to go for its life extending refit soon, I came across this great video on the YouTube today with all the talk this week about E-Flexers and WBY take a few minutes to look at one of the older Ferries still operating heading into Fishguard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk0amJTzP6k
British Navy sub in near miss with SF7. Incident was unreported (until now) occurred on the 6th November last year.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/nuclear-powered-submarine-in-near-miss-with-stena-ferry-in-irish-sea-1.3765726
Quote from: ferryfan on January 21, 2019, 10:15:10 PM
British Navy sub in near miss with SF7. Incident was unreported (until now) occurred on the 6th November last year.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/nuclear-powered-submarine-in-near-miss-with-stena-ferry-in-irish-sea-1.3765726
Wow, scary.
On the Maib list
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/marine-accident-investigation-branch-current-investigations/marine-accident-investigation-branch-current-investigations
Stena Mersey is nearly finished its refit in Belfast, images of the ferry looking very well with its new paintwork here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/46135032154/in/dateposted/
This weekend the Horizon will return to Rosslare and the Nordica will start covering for the Superfast refits with Superfast X expected nect in H&Wx
Looking forward to sailing on Nordica again when she returns to Holyhead, one of my favourite ferries.
Might be a Stena triple in Rosslare tomorrow evening as Nordica not due in Dublin until Sunday, Horizon will be heading South from Birkenhead tomorrow morning to return to its route and Stena Europe will be in port from 16.30 tomorrow, of course only a possible but would be great photo opportunity.
Superfast VIII been circling at the mouth of Belfast Lough for 12 hours, wonder why she sailed at all.
Probably the same reason that SFX has been doing the same around Dublin Bay - either there are no safe berths available or it's too rough to attempt berthing
It seems that Dublin full of vessels sheltering from the conditions. The P&O ships seem to be sailing, as is the Stena Belfast-Liverpool run. Epsilon nearly got caught out again last night. She's currently being held against the berth by a tug in Cherbourg.
Rosslare could be renamed Stenaport this morning with Horizon Nordica and Europe all in port with sailings cancelled for Europe due to winds. Expect some nice images will appear on the Facebook.
Quote from: smallboatowner on January 27, 2019, 11:34:20 AM
Superfast VIII been circling at the mouth of Belfast Lough for 12 hours, wonder why she sailed at all.
Her sailings were cancelled so I assume she had to get off the berth as it may be safer to be sheltering at sea rather than risk damage alongside. She will not have any passengers onboard.
Quote from: Davy Jones on January 27, 2019, 12:37:10 PM
Probably the same reason that SFX has been doing the same around Dublin Bay - either there are no safe berths available or it's too rough to attempt berthing
It seems that Dublin full of vessels sheltering from the conditions. The P&O ships seem to be sailing, as is the Stena Belfast-Liverpool run. Epsilon nearly got caught out again last night. She's currently being held against the berth by a tug in Cherbourg.
Similarly Superfast X's sailings were showing on Ferrycheck as cancelled so she is likely sheltering in the bay as there are no free berths or it may be deemed safer.
Quote from: RorieLen on January 27, 2019, 01:41:43 PM
Quote from: Davy Jones on January 27, 2019, 12:37:10 PM
Probably the same reason that SFX has been doing the same around Dublin Bay - either there are no safe berths available or it's too rough to attempt berthing
It seems that Dublin full of vessels sheltering from the conditions. The P&O ships seem to be sailing, as is the Stena Belfast-Liverpool run. Epsilon nearly got caught out again last night. She's currently being held against the berth by a tug in Cherbourg.
Similarly Superfast X's sailings were showing on Ferrycheck as cancelled so she is likely sheltering in the bay as there are no free berths or it may be deemed safer.
I'm told she sailed from Cairnryan yesterday evening but was unable to berth in Belfast due to strong northerlies at around 10.00pm . She has recently docked at her berth in Belfast as the winds have eased quite a bit.
She berthed last night and discharged before leaving the berth for shelter in the Lough.
She had no passengers onboard during the night.
Quote from: RorieLen on January 27, 2019, 02:19:23 PM
She berthed last night and discharged before leaving the berth for shelter in the Lough.
She had no passengers onboard during the night.
You're correct. my source was wrong. VT4 is very exposed in those conditions. Svitzer Surrey is assisting her at present.
Nordica takes over from Superfast X tonight, over next six weeks the three Superfasts will visit H&W for refit, all covered by Nordica.
Cool drone footage of Europe and Nordica In Rosslare on this link
https://youtu.be/c2H0ZHGspOM
Nordica took 4.5hours to turn around sailings in Holyhead this morning. It takes a bit of time to refamiliarise with things I suppose.
Horizon docked in Rosslare around 8am after its delayed weekend sailing to Cherbourg.
Reuters reporting that Stena Line are considering re-registering their UK fleet
"In the light of the Brexit process we are considering whether the UK flag can become a possible issue for us when it no longer will be an EU flag post the 29th March 2019, but we have taken no decisions and are reviewing different scenarios," said Ian Hampton, chief people & communications officer with Stena Line.
Sounds like Stena are following P&O's lead.
"In advance of Britain leaving the European Union on March 29 2019, we undertook a review of the flag status of our ships on the English Channel... For operational and accounting reasons, we have concluded that the best course of action is to reflag all ships to be under the Cyprus flag.... We have no plans to make any other changes, including the terms and conditions of any of our seafarers, as a result of the new arrangements." - P&O Ferries
Reported on the Facebook this evening that Stena Forerunner is to be replaced by a Stena Forecaster on Belfast Birkenhead route next week.
Reports last year stated Forecaster had been sold by Stena RoRo, surprisingly it has been purchased by Stena Line, so it should be around for a few years now.
https://youtu.be/OHGaUFXANtc
It has been on Airbus related transatlantic work, so would imagine some time on regular short sea work will be quite a change for the ship.
Also Stena Foreteller might have been purchased by Stena Line, but no updates yet.
Stena Forecaster on the way to Birkenhead due Saturday morning, will replace Forerunner on Belfast service as previously mentioned.
Adventurer is sailing tonight but Nordica cancelled. Europe has been cancelled all day.
Horizon sailed from Cherbourg tonight wheres Oscar Wilde is waiting until the morning to set off.
Refit updates here
https://www.niferry.co.uk/belfast-farewell-stena-forerunner-welcoming-stena-forecaster-and-stena-nordica/?fbclid=IwAR3WprrUk-2xW33vhNgIoaMjtKS3HEcsptKrdsEor_Ho4Qkv2vhMIckhQno
Forecaster is off the coast of Liverpool waiting to enter port in the morning.
Apparently Stena Nordica crew have European Tour T Shirts with their refit dates showing Fishguard-Rosslare 8th March - 30 May, which given there has been no official announcement yet is the biggest indicator that Stena Europe will be going for its mega refit.
Stena Superfast X on the way back to Dublin.
Stena Foecaster has Change Port Of Registry From Goteborg To Douglas and Change Her Flag From Sweden To Isle Of Man Today
For those interested Scott Mackey has updated his Flickr with pictures of the two Belfast newcomers, including some of them together!
www.flickr.com/ScottMackey
Stena RoRo have purchased a Japanese ferry - Yamato
http://news.cision.com/stena-roro/r/stena-roro-acquires-ropax-vessel-in-japan,c2743683
From the mock up image it appears that they intended to add quite a lot to the aft end superstructure near the funnel and at 2,300 lane meters not bad freight capacity.
Wonder where this will end up, obviously as it's Stena RORO this could go anywhere.
Deck heights on Stena RoRo new purchase are 4.4 and 4.2 meters high, which probably means they have a client in mind for this ferry in Southern Europe, would not be of use on any of the Stena Line route networks in Northern Europe.
New Dublin - Holyhead ferry Stena Estrid was floated out of its building dock today, another major milestone in the ships build, also visible in float out images it is registered in Cardiff same as Superfast X.
Images of Estrid being floated out on link below.
https://www.shippax.com/en/news/stena-estrid-floated-out-of-building-dock.aspx
When does Stena Europe go for her refit?
Quote from: A83 on February 24, 2019, 11:25:10 AM
When does Stena Europe go for her refit?
Not officially announced or on booking engine, but Nordica is expected to replace Europe on March 8th until end of May, given level of investment, Would expect announcement in the next two weeks, rumors indicate an investment of 10 million euro which is double what they have spent on the rest of the Irish Sea fleet refits this year, so will probably be a press release.
If she is going for a refit of that magnitude you would expect it will go to a reputible yard,
Stena Nordica will be replacing Stena Europe on Tuesday 12th March until 12th June according to live freight timetable.
No official announcement but that is the first confirmation that Stena Europe is going off service this year,
No info yet on where the Europe is gonna be docked?? The trip to Poland, Sweden for example will take a few days....
But rumours still going that the Europe and nautica might be switching routes as well....
No news released yet. Still waiting for some form of press release.
I see the Nordica is running with Stena + again, nice touch while covering the Europe.
With regards to Nautica, not the best fit for the route as a twin deck loader not compatible with either Rosslare or Fishguard ramps, though stranger things have happened
Quote from: giftgrub on March 06, 2019, 10:00:56 PM
No news released yet. Still waiting for some form of press release.
I see the Nordica is running with Stena + again, nice touch while covering the Europe.
With regards to Nautica, not the best fit for the route as a twin deck loader not compatible with either Rosslare or Fishguard ramps, though stranger things have happened
I doubt there will be a press release tbh. The press release we do get from Stena regarding dry docking is more about generating positive PR for using local yards (H&W usually).
Quote from: seaman on March 06, 2019, 09:16:48 PM
No info yet on where the Europe is gonna be docked?? The trip to Poland, Sweden for example will take a few days....
But rumours still going that the Europe and nautica might be switching routes as well....
Bit chilly this time of year. Can't see Nautica coming to Fishguard on a permanent basis tbh. Her PC is only about 660 since she was rebuilt for a start.
stena europe leaving for turkey from rosslare this sunday
According to freight timetable Nordica due to take over on Sunday evenings crossing to Fishguard.
If Europe waits until Monday before departure to Turkey another Stena triple in Rosslare photo op.
Are you sure that Stena Europe will head for turkey? Or more likely that she'll be heading to Poland or Oresund docks in Sweden as an example??
Quote from: seaman on March 09, 2019, 12:53:03 AM
Are you sure that Stena Europe will head for turkey? Or more likely that she'll be heading to Poland or Oresund docks in Sweden as an example??
It's Turkey. There's not a lot of places with the expertise with a 2.5 month slot to be honest!!! There's a lot of technical work to be done after all, this isn't just a quick lick of paint!
As above I doubt there will be a press release.
VIII is scheduled to leave dd tomorrow evening with Nordica leaving for Rosslare in Sunday morning. At present she is scheduled to take up the evening round trip ex Rosslare.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-europe-break-in-the-sun/
Superfast VIII delayed leaving drydock, Nordica arrival in Rosslare delayed by 18/24 hours which pushes back Europe's departure to Turkey until Monday evening at the earliest.
According to the AIS map the Nordica is en-route south now. Rosslare next
Nordica arrived in Rosslare this morning and took over from Europe this evening.
Some images of the Stena triple in Rosslare on the Facebook this evening.
Windy weather tonight might delay Europe's departure for Turkey.
Apparently Europe will make one last trip to Fishguard tomorrow to collect supplies and parts for the refit in Turkey,
The Life Extension refit will probably include
Major mechanical overhaul of engines / gearbox / shafts / rudders / thrusters
Full strip back of paintwork on entire hull to bare metal and complete repaint
Installation of MES - Marine Evacuation System - this will change the appearance with Lifeboat bits removed
Replacement of Windows and frames, cant beat some new double glazing !!
Replacement of railings and associated bits on deck 9 & 10
Possible other additions
Enclosed Bridge Wings ! keep the bridge crew indoors (though not essential would be nice for crew)
Revamp Stena Shopping - An area ripe for redevelopment - could be made bigger and more enticing
Behind the scenes bits we dont see like galleys etc will surely benefit from some TLC to bring them up to date.
Most other customer areas are expected to be left as they are.
All the changes will keep the Europe in good shape and is a big vote of confidence in the Rosslare - Fishguard route.
Stena Europe has left Fishguard now and is en route to Gibraltar according to AIS
Stena Europe has arrived in Gibraltar this morning, time for some fuel. Next up Istanbul.
Latest info is that Europe is going to the same shipyard that DFDS have used for lengthening the UND RoRo vessels,
This is some of the work they can do
https://youtu.be/OteFm6f-bWA
Europe Visible on webcam
https://www.earthtv.com/en/webcam/gibraltar-bay-cable-car
Just visible
Center
When is the Europe expecting to return to service again?
Quote from: seaman on March 17, 2019, 06:18:29 PM
When is the Europe expecting to return to service again?
26th June
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-statement-on-stena-europe-dry-docking/
Europe just off the coast of Tunisia and Sicily, at a steady 17 knts, giving the engines a good work out.
Should be a bit like taking your car up the motorway after 3 years of only driving in town! Blow out the cobwebs - and hope she makes it there!
Isnt it quiet amazing to see the Stena Europe where she is now.
She is in the Icarian Sea heading NE to Canakkale, Turkey.
Quote from: loch garman on March 21, 2019, 07:03:11 PM
Isnt it quiet amazing to see the Stena Europe where she is now.
Sure is, and would imagine an interesting trip for the crew makes a big difference from their regular route, just passing Athens this evening.
Europe arrived at Tuzla, just outside Istanbul this evening and appears to be in a holding pattern at 2knts waiting to enter drydock/ or getting an anchorage point.
Over the next 12 weeks they have a lot of work to do including complete engineering rebuilds on the four main engines by Wartsila so better get into drydock ASAP.
Adventurer is running late again. I was on her from HH last Friday and she was running about 45 behind schedule (due to circumstances beyond the ship's control?). Does she have a problem any info?
Holyhead dockers are on a go slow..in dispute with the company over pay and manning....Union and company meetin monday comimg.
If it was a dispute with the dockers SFX would be delayed as well. Adventurer is not making much more than 18knots so an engine issue is most likely the cause of her delays.
Would it be possible for Stena Europe to replace Stena Horizon on the road to Cherbourg Rosslare
Does anyone know why the Adventurer is cancelled for the next 24 hours? And why she isnt on her berth in HH?
Quote from: conor on March 31, 2019, 02:14:22 PM
Does anyone know why the Adventurer is cancelled for the next 24 hours? And why she isnt on her berth in HH?
In water survey and MCA drill according to a notification sent out from Stena Line
Quote from: RorieLen on March 31, 2019, 04:12:45 PM
Quote from: conor on March 31, 2019, 02:14:22 PM
Does anyone know why the Adventurer is cancelled for the next 24 hours? And why she isnt on her berth in HH?
In water survey and MCA drill according to a notification sent out from Stena Line
Got a quick paint touch up as well, several cherry pickers working on the paintwork today, should look fresher when back in service.
She was having some engine problems last week which were causing delays - likely some work related to that ongoing
Did Adventurer dry-dock this year?
Quote from: Davy Jones on April 02, 2019, 10:18:31 AM
Did Adventurer dry-dock this year?
No, she dry docked last year and I think it's bi-annual for Stena Line ferries now apart from the Europe but that's undoubtedly because of her age .
Last year Ulysses did not Schedule Drydock and ended up out of service for 5 weeks
Given Stena Adventurers critical mission it would make sense to give her gentle care and attention at least one a year.
Adventurer only drydocks every two years, as you mention how mission critical it is to their operations, might be more beneficial to annual drydock as the ship gets older.
Always amazed how such a complex piece of machinery can go two years before a full maintenance program, in service maintenance must be very good / flexible to keep all systems running.
Some images of Stena Europe in Gibraltar over Patrick's weekend
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50194818@N05/40436727513/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50194818@N05/40436723113/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50194818@N05/40436725413/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50194818@N05/33526471228/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50194818@N05/33526472118/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50194818@N05/47349540012/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50194818@N05/47349542012/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50194818@N05/47349546882/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50194818@N05/47349548212/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50194818@N05/47349549852/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/50194818@N05/47349551752/in/photostream/
First image of Stena Europe in drydock is on Facebook
Need to search
Gemak Shipyard Istanbul Tuzla
On a video posted yesterday
Not the official Gemak site
Searching but cannot find it...
https://m.facebook.com/pages/Gemak-Shipyard-Istanbul-Tuzla-Turkey/612555945438744
Video posted yesterday by Firat Koci
Person filming managed to capture Europe without realizing it, looks like a collection of the Davitts from lifeboat deck in front, no longer needed with MES being installed.
More info on Stena Europe
http://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/stena-line/pressreleases/stena-europe-undergoes-refit-upgrades-in-turkey-2861830?fbclid=IwAR33kyET9Wfc1CgptfUC6PTjEYDVj3aaeDWPH6AtU8uCkQhv9eaISuwd7WY
https://www.ferrypubs.co.uk/stena-europe-undergoes-refit-upgrades-in-turkey/
SFX seems to be docking in Dublin stern in, does anyone have any information as to what the reason for this change is?
Quote from: ferryfan on April 27, 2019, 12:58:36 PM
SFX seems to be docking in Dublin stern in, does anyone have any information as to what the reason for this change is?
Problems with her bow ramp.
Work also started on the top deck of the shore linkspan at their Dublin berth this week, meaning both Adventurer and Superfast X can only load through their main decks and use internal ramps to access the top deck.
Stena AB annual report is out
https://www.stena.com/uploads/2019/04/bc20eab3-8af2-4072-94ef-603d02f7640b.pdf
https://www.stena.com/uploads/2019/04/de0853df-7641-425e-8fb4-59cf283a4c2c.pdf
Stena Europe looking quite different
Image posted by Jörgen Lorén
https://m.facebook.com/groups/Ferriesirish/?ref=bookmarks#!/profile.php?id=612555945438744&tsid=0.21231456259270498&source=result
Quote from: giftgrub on May 04, 2019, 10:07:50 AM
Stena Europe looking quite different
Image posted by Jörgen Lorén
https://m.facebook.com/groups/Ferriesirish/?ref=bookmarks#!/profile.php?id=612555945438744&tsid=0.21231456259270498&source=result
If you check Jörgen's profile on FB you'll find a few more photos from the refit. Under the surveillance by managers from Gothenburg apparently.
Quote from: seaman on May 04, 2019, 03:09:14 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on May 04, 2019, 10:07:50 AM
Stena Europe looking quite different
Image posted by Jörgen Lorén
https://m.facebook.com/groups/Ferriesirish/?ref=bookmarks#!/profile.php?id=612555945438744&tsid=0.21231456259270498&source=result
If you check Jörgen's profile on FB you'll find a few more photos from the refit. Under the surveillance by managers from Gothenburg apparently.
Nice one well spotted
Technical issue with Nordica this afternoon
https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/17621444.stena-nordicas-return-to-fishguard-harbour-sparks-concern/
It did crossing in 2hr30 after this was resolved, not a bad recovery.
Some images onboard Stena Europe in this Facebook post,
Looks like Met Bar
https://m.facebook.com/groups/Ferriesirish/?ref=bookmarks#!/hasan.ergun.58726/posts/pcb.1318553151636816/?photo_id=1318552968303501&mds=%2Fphotos%2Fviewer%2F%3Fphotoset_token%3Dpcb.1318553151636816%26photo%3D1318552968303501%26profileid%3D100002668067180%26source%3D49%26__tn__%3DEH-R%26cached_data%3Dfalse%26ftid%3D&mdp=1&mdf=1
Another screenshot, this time from the Barista bar
Hi all, has anyone got an idea when Europe returns. I have not traveled on Nordica would like would like to squeeze in a trip before its stint on Rosslare Fishguard finishes. Many thanks.
I have travelled Fishguard-Rosslare 2 or 3 times a year since 2000, originally on Beatrix. The food on Beatrix was the best, but overall Europe was the most enjoyable and most relaxing: last year we were on 4 crossings in 3 weeks (the joy of being grandad with kids over the water). On boarding Nordica ,directed on board very quickly to the front of the ship where we were abandoned and found crew unable to communicate directions upstairs with passengers due to poor english. Found our own way upstairs via a part of the ship we should not have been in and found facilities rather limited for the number of passengers that were aboard. Stena lounge was small and full,restaurant small and full (food was OK ) seating was poor and full (we shared the lounge with 2 coaches of stag parties who drank all the way from Fishguard and had to be prised out of the bar in Rosslare). There are plenty of very comfortable cabins on board but I do not think that is what you are after. I wouldn't bother rushing to Nordica for an enjoyable trip,wait for the refurbished Europe to be as good as new,it will be worth it.
Rumors going that the Europé might be a bit delayed, anyone here who has a clue on how they are proceeding? Photos etc?
Quote from: seaman on June 04, 2019, 08:01:00 PM
Rumors going that the Europé might be a bit delayed, anyone here who has a clue on how they are proceeding? Photos etc?
I think someone said it could be mid-July before she is back now. Most of the work is under the skin as you'd expect so don't expect any major cosmetic changes inside or out.
According to the Stena Line Freight timetable, Nordica won't be back in Karlskrona until the end of July. Even if she is to be used to cover X for her bow ramp issue to be fixed as rumoured, we are still probably looking around the middle of July I would assume for Europe's return if that is the reason for Nordica's delayed going back to the baltic (all the other refits are done). From the little info that is available, it seems not much is being done interior wise. From the photos that have been "leaked" it looks as if the existing interior has been covered over with sheeting - if it is being replaced then surely they'd just remove it instead! At the end of the day is there any real need to replace her interior anyway? This refit is more about keeping the vessel in service than anything else.
Found more photos from turkey, seems that the Europe is now getting her windows replaced now as well. And you can see that on one of the photos, she has white paint applied to the frames on the outside...
It looks like Stena Europe won't be back until July 22nd at the earliest, with Stena Nordica's return to Poland delayed as a result.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/delayed-return-from-refit-for-both-stena-lines-stena-europe-and-po-ferries-european-highlander/
How is Stena Nordica coping with the summer rush?
Quote from: A83 on June 23, 2019, 09:22:33 AM
How is Stena Nordica coping with the summer rush?
Considering they struggled with the Easter traffic , it doesn't look good for a comfortable journey: book a cabin and at least have a quiet crossing.
Quote from: A83 on June 23, 2019, 09:22:33 AM
How is Stena Nordica coping with the summer rush?
While Nordica is a fine vessel, I wouldn't fancy her at full capacity to be honest (a bit like any ferry). Its not ideal but at least there is a passenger ship on the service. I'm sure they'd love her back at Gdynia as well!
When will Stena Superfast X be receiving attention to her bow door.
Quote from: IFPete on June 30, 2019, 03:07:56 PM
When will Stena Superfast X be receiving attention to her bow door.
I believe it's her bow ramp as opposed to the bow door. It will be difficult to sort at this time of year given they are now in the summer peak. She may have to be taken out of service to fix it so when could they do that or what could cover her? Nordica when she's finished at Fishguard?
Nordica might hang around if its a quick fix.
Nordica seems to be the obvious option but 400 pc? Hopefully it will just take a few days
Stena Europe is back in drydock in Tuzla as the rebuilding nears its completion, image appeared today on the Facebook feed previously mentioned posted by Ismail Asa of the bow getting it's Stena flash applied.
Coming soon to the Irish Sea Southern Corridor the Stena Europe.
Freshly painted and branded with current Stena Line livery for the first time, with Stena Line now branded below bridge.
Image from the Facebook feed for Gemak Tuzla
and posted by Onur Hatice Zengen.
Her livery is pretty much identical as before
Never had Stena branding on front of vessel before, only Irish Sea based ferry not to have this.
when does stena europe come back?
Quote from: bissiere on July 19, 2019, 01:44:09 PM
when does stena europe come back?
Surely she was meant to be back long before now?! She's in danger of missing the entire summer season if she's delayed much more. I know someone who emailed and asked Stena Line and they don't even really know!
I wonder if there are capacity issues with the Nordica given we are now in the middle of the summer peak?
There must be movement of traffic over to irish ferries.
Stena Europe is now 1 month overdue, maybe leaving drydock on monday
Notice Stena Europe has moved on the timetable to return to service on the Saturday of August bank holiday weekend, would have to leave Turkey ASAP to make that deadline and get back into service.
Would imagine that when Europe returns the Marine authorities will have to inspect and certify along with Marine Evacuation tests on new MES normally carried out for crew training etc.
Given the amount of Sold Out on Nordica sailings it's costing some money with the extended refit time, hopefully will be worth the wait.
Still in Tuzla, posted on the Facebook
looking at marinetraffic Stena Europe has moved out of docks, a test run or ready for departure, I don't know
Being towed back into port this evening, surely cannot leave until after Wexford match tomorrow !! Crew in Tuzla would not be happy if they missed the match !?%!
Based on most drydock periods, engines usually act up when started for first time in anger for months, expect a few gremlins as they bring all the systems back to life.
Windy conditions in Tuzla curtailed the planned seatrials today, they will have to try again another day.
Once completed it will be full ahead for Fishguard, taking on bunkers in Gibraltar.
We are now realistically looking at a mid-August return for Europe (allowing for a 10-12 day voyage, taking on stores, drills, etc). Despite what is being posted elsewhere. Hopefully the trials go well.
26th August looks like the latest return date for the Europe, while featured on booking engine well before that, lots of sailings marked Sold Out, which would suggest Nordica is vessel expected to be covering these sailings.
Stena Europe crew are in Tuzla waiting to take Europe home, hopefully they will be on the way soon.
Quote from: giftgrub on July 30, 2019, 09:15:59 PM
26th August looks like the latest return date for the Europe, while featured on booking engine well before that, lots of sailings marked Sold Out, which would suggest Nordica is vessel expected to be covering these sailings.
Stena Europe crew are in Tuzla waiting to take Europe home, hopefully they will be on the way soon.
Or they've capped bookings until they know for sure the Europe will be back and incase she's not. Doesn't mean she will be as late as you suggest!
Quote from: RorieLen on July 30, 2019, 09:29:14 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on July 30, 2019, 09:15:59 PM
26th August looks like the latest return date for the Europe, while featured on booking engine well before that, lots of sailings marked Sold Out, which would suggest Nordica is vessel expected to be covering these sailings.
Stena Europe crew are in Tuzla waiting to take Europe home, hopefully they will be on the way soon.
Or they've capped bookings until they know for sure the Europe will be back and incase she's not. Doesn't mean she will be as late as you suggest!
Hopefully not, but earliest given 10-12 day transit time is 12 Aug if it leaves tomorrow, plus inspections by the relevant authorities MCA and similar, MES tests, taking on stores etc, those days will quickly disappear as it waits in shipyard.
Quote from: RorieLen on July 30, 2019, 09:29:14 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on July 30, 2019, 09:15:59 PM
26th August looks like the latest return date for the Europe, while featured on booking engine well before that, lots of sailings marked Sold Out, which would suggest Nordica is vessel expected to be covering these sailings.
Stena Europe crew are in Tuzla waiting to take Europe home, hopefully they will be on the way soon.
Or they've capped bookings until they know for sure the Europe will be back and incase she's not. Doesn't mean she will be as late as you suggest!
Sounds sensible. Certainly the little I have heard suggests she won't be that late. It is a 10+ day voyage mind.
The booking system is showing Europe back from 1st Sept
If Stena Nordica is operating full is there an arrangement in place to transfer passengers and freight to Isle of Inishmore.
Sounds like there's another issue with STENA EUROPE keeping her from returning to service. She'll be back when she's back I'm afraid. Just a shame she's going to miss the entire summer season now!
Quote from: IFPete on August 02, 2019, 10:39:35 PM
If Stena Nordica is operating full is there an arrangement in place to transfer passengers and freight to Isle of Inishmore.
Like they do anyway you mean?
Quote from: Steven on August 03, 2019, 12:39:09 AM
Sounds like there's another issue with STENA EUROPE keeping her from returning to service. She'll be back when she's back I'm afraid. Just a shame she's going to miss the entire summer season now!Quote from: IFPete on August 02, 2019, 10:39:35 PM
If Stena Nordica is operating full is there an arrangement in place to transfer passengers and freight to Isle of Inishmore.
Like they do anyway you mean?
My understanding is that they are offering alternative travel via other Stena Line services
Just noticed Europe is no longer visible on Marinewatch or Vesselfinder.
Last Position Received: 2019-08-02 14:14 UTC
Quote from: marsav68 on August 06, 2019, 12:10:58 PM
Just noticed Europe is no longer visible on Marinewatch or Vesselfinder.
Last Position Received: 2019-08-02 14:14 UTC
AIS switched off four days ago, so should show if you search for specific vessel but not if you are looking in the port area.
Image below was posted over the weekend but would imagine taken a few weeks ago, Funnel colors are subtly different.
Posted by Bart Apart on Stena Fanatics page on the Facebook
Quote from: giftgrub on August 06, 2019, 07:04:46 PM
Quote from: marsav68 on August 06, 2019, 12:10:58 PM
Just noticed Europe is no longer visible on Marinewatch or Vesselfinder.
Last Position Received: 2019-08-02 14:14 UTC
AIS switched off four days ago, so should show if you search for specific vessel but not if you are looking in the port area.
Image below was posted over the weekend but would imagine taken a few weeks ago, Funnel colors are subtly different.
Posted by Bart Apart on Stena Fanatics page on the Facebook
thanks, It has reappeared appeared this morning.
Think it has gone back into a drydock again, so was moved across the port back into one of the drydocks.
Waiting on some specialist parts, for areas that were discovered during refit, would imagine engine room / propulsion system related, given vessels age, items probably not available off the shelf.
https://bfenthusiasts.com/bfe/topic/12523-stena-europe-refit/
Quote from: giftgrub on August 07, 2019, 07:12:42 PM
Think it has gone back into a drydock again, so was moved across the port back into one of the drydocks.
Waiting on some specialist parts, for areas that were discovered during refit, would imagine engine room / propulsion system related, given vessels age, items probably not available off the shelf.
https://bfenthusiasts.com/bfe/topic/12523-stena-europe-refit/
I'm sure that it will be worth the wait. It's a tribute to the design, construction and maintenance that she is still in service; just look at what happened to her sister ship! A great pity she wasn't kept in my opinion. I'm sure other uses could have been found for her.
Matt (sentimental and nostalgic)
Update on Stena Europe
https://www.niferry.co.uk/update-from-stena-line-on-stena-europe/?fbclid=IwAR0iHKgTsnnTxvgpbD8FBJN7Bs3hoGU4lawsBMcmQ6q_EFD0aXa-asJhEVg
I thought that the bridge wings were going to be enclosed? None of the pictures I have seen so far seem to show that this work has been done.
Matt
Quote from: Matt73 on August 09, 2019, 03:35:46 PM
I thought that the bridge wings were going to be enclosed? None of the pictures I have seen so far seem to show that this work has been done.
Matt
No, was expected that they might, but not happening this time (though never say never) works were underneath and unseen areas, engines, tanks, hull, funnel, props, shafts,, etc, then replace all windows, some ceilings, barista bar and shopping area upgraded, full paint strip back, remove damage hull sections replace and full repaint, car deck work, removal of remaining half deck 4 to give full height on deck 3, MES installation and exterior decks refurbished,hopefully also bathrooms on deck 8 got some attention, also stairwells were mentioned so hopefully a bit bigger and nicer.
Will attract plenty of attention from the enthusiastic ferry fans when it's back, spotting the changes, for the general public not too much different.
In case anyone is forgetting what it looked like, plenty of images here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/albums/72157623466806142
I guess much of the work people are expecting them to have done is pure speculation. It would be worth remembering that the likely purpose of such a life extending refit is to deal with many technical aspects of the ship, below decks so to speak. I would suggest there will be very little change to passenger areas which are in relatively decent shape anyway.
Whats up with the Stena Superfast X gone technical? since yesterday.
back in action sailed from Dublin this afternoon on time.
Quote from: giftgrub on August 09, 2019, 07:59:51 PM
Quote from: Matt73 on August 09, 2019, 03:35:46 PM
I thought that the bridge wings were going to be enclosed? None of the pictures I have seen so far seem to show that this work has been done.
Matt
No, was expected that they might, but not happening this time (though never say never) works were underneath and unseen areas, engines, tanks, hull, funnel, props, shafts,, etc, then replace all windows, some ceilings, barista bar and shopping area upgraded, full paint strip back, remove damage hull sections replace and full repaint, car deck work, removal of remaining half deck 4 to give full height on deck 3, MES installation and exterior decks refurbished,hopefully also bathrooms on deck 8 got some attention, also stairwells were mentioned so hopefully a bit bigger and nicer.
Will attract plenty of attention from the enthusiastic ferry fans when it's back, spotting the changes, for the general public not too much different.
In case anyone is forgetting what it looked like, plenty of images here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/albums/72157623466806142
Many thanks. I'm sure I read about the bridge wings being enclosed on here! I'm sure it will be worth the wait.
Matt
Quote from: Matt73 on August 12, 2019, 04:55:04 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on August 09, 2019, 07:59:51 PM
Quote from: Matt73 on August 09, 2019, 03:35:46 PM
I thought that the bridge wings were going to be enclosed? None of the pictures I have seen so far seem to show that this work has been done.
Matt
No, was expected that they might, but not happening this time (though never say never) works were underneath and unseen areas, engines, tanks, hull, funnel, props, shafts,, etc, then replace all windows, some ceilings, barista bar and shopping area upgraded, full paint strip back, remove damage hull sections replace and full repaint, car deck work, removal of remaining half deck 4 to give full height on deck 3, MES installation and exterior decks refurbished,hopefully also bathrooms on deck 8 got some attention, also stairwells were mentioned so hopefully a bit bigger and nicer.
Will attract plenty of attention from the enthusiastic ferry fans when it's back, spotting the changes, for the general public not too much different.
In case anyone is forgetting what it looked like, plenty of images here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/albums/72157623466806142
Many thanks. I'm sure I read about the bridge wings being enclosed on here! I'm sure it will be worth the wait.
Matt
Was expected/ hoped given the large scale of the refit that the bridge wings would see attention, I suppose on a value for money basis better to spend the money downstairs and continue to provide nice warm jackets for the bridge crew to use when docking.
Images on Facebook also show all external deck rails on decks 9 & 10 have been refurbished and new wooden top finishers applied, look really good.
I wish they'd taken the opportunity to re-size and position the Stena Line logo and red stripe on the hull. It always looked too low down and too far forward previously, when there is acres of hull space to raise it up and move it back a bit.
I've never liked the logo-forward look on Stena ships, seems to curve round the bow on most and looks distorted as a result. It is fine on the Superfasts though, but most other ships it is just a tad too near the bow!
Stena Europe and Stena Nordica are the worst for this though, really needs the blue boot topping raised to at least the top of the belting and the red line applied straight!
Some images of the Europe during its refit in Turkey.
New MES clearly visible in second image along with MES lines coming down the hull, new windows also clearly visible.
https://foursquare.com/v/gemak-shipyard/4d9b11a2e086a35d6905c8ad
Interesting overhead satellite view of Europe during refit while in wet dock at Gemak.
https://satellites.pro/#G40.838112,29.270990,18
Found this link on
http://www.countyecho.co.uk/article.cfm?id=127010&headline=Refit+delay+suggests+serious+ferry+problems§ionIs=letters&searchyear=2019&fbclid=IwAR3L_5KML_9yxzizrdsGGz6wCz-L0rUCGrIQAeUz6shd_l_m6qjnjs659ac#readComments
1st September not looking good given no movement, sea trial on 27th July last time.
Stena Europe has left drydock in Tuzla this evening, hopefully for the last time on this refit. Given the date, would not expect to see it back in service until end of September at earliest, given the next important date for all living in Ireland and UK, might be prudent for Stena to keep Nordica in Ireland with opportunity to run Irl - France on a daily schedule if required (according to Irish Times today, not impossible).
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/call-for-state-to-devise-alternative-ship-routes-to-europe-1.3991248
Ignore my previous post about Europe leaving DryDock last night, it has gone back into drydock last night, was in a wet dock for last few weeks, we await its next move, as when it leaves drydock this time it should be fully fixed and ready for a return to service.
they have to take a shaft out to repair it approx 2 weeks, then sea trials, then back to fishguard maybe :-\
Looks like Europe is due back in service from the 16th September
A glimpse of the Europe in drydock , posted on the Facebook by Anil Günes.
Stena Europe in Tuzla today.
Crop from image posted by Yalçin Kara on the Facebook today.
Stena Europe has left drydock in Tuzla and now should begin Sea Trials in the next few days, fingers crossed these are successful and the issues which have delayed its departure are resolved, once it leaves Turkey it will require MES testing etc on its return to Fishguard so still at least three weeks before returning to service
direction istanbul for stena europe
According to marine traffic the stena Estrid is on sea trials
Quote from: bissiere on September 05, 2019, 10:49:45 PM
direction istanbul for stena europe
Appears to be anchored off Istanbul now.
Quote from: marsav68 on September 06, 2019, 10:43:20 AM
Quote from: bissiere on September 05, 2019, 10:49:45 PM
direction istanbul for stena europe
Appears to be anchored off Istanbul now.
Bunkers apparently (suppose she needs a top up!). Should be heading for the British Isles soon though probably wont be going straight into service
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-europe-to-soon-leave-turkey-for-the-british-isles/
direction gibraltar for stena europe finally
Quote from: bissiere on September 07, 2019, 09:20:58 AM
direction gibraltar for stena europe finally
And at 20.7 knts as well !! Impressive
Quote from: giftgrub on September 07, 2019, 07:56:01 PM
Quote from: bissiere on September 07, 2019, 09:20:58 AM
direction gibraltar for stena europe finally
And at 20.7 knts as well !! Impressive
I usually run quicker after a good rest too 😜
Unlikely she will be going straight back into service. Great that she's on her way home at last though!
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-europe-leaves-turkey/
Back on 4 engines after clutch change
Quote from: lynx1 on September 07, 2019, 10:42:17 PM
Back on 4 engines after clutch change
You might want to check marine traffic. Been running slow for at least a day
Up to 17 knts now this morning, about to pass Malta and Sicily today.
Quote from: giftgrub on September 09, 2019, 10:07:22 AM
Up to 17 knts now this morning, about to pass Malta and Sicily today.
Fingers crossed it stays that way - at 12 kts it was going to take a while to get back to home waters!
18.9 knts passing Tunis this morning
Passing Bizerte now at 18.9 knots
Stena Lagan and Mersey to be lengthened
https://www.shippax.com/en/news/sedef-shipbuilding-to-lengthen-stena-lagan-and-stena-mersey.aspx
Stena Europe now passing Cartagena and about to enter the Alboran Sea.
Quote from: Niall on September 11, 2019, 12:14:40 PM
Stena Europe now passing Cartagena and about to enter the Alboran Sea.
Now anchored in Gibraltar with a tanker alongside.
Has left Gibralter bound for Liverpool.
Is she heading to Birkenhead for shakedown prior to going into service.
Quote from: IFPete on September 14, 2019, 10:42:35 AM
Is she heading to Birkenhead for shakedown prior to going into service.
Shippax reporting Europe heading to Camell Laird to undergo some final works before she returns to service.
Europe at 19.7 knts in Celtic Sea approaching Lands End.
Expected into Liverpool tomorrow evening, should look well in the September sunshine.
Europe currently scheduled to return on 24 September according to live timetable.
https://www.stenalinefreight.com/timetables
Image of Europe bunkering in Gibraltar here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/50194818@N05/48720990162/
Europe now at 21.5 knts and about to pass Holyhead, due in Liverpool now at 12.
Quote from: giftgrub on September 15, 2019, 08:45:19 AM
Europe now at 21.5 knts and about to pass Holyhead, due in Liverpool now at 12.
I believe she is not going to Cammell Laird and instead will be berthed in Liverpool Docks. Surely if she was bound for Laird's her ais destination would say Birkenhead instead of Liverpool?
Just been met by Pilot boat, all will be revealed very soon.
Waiting now to enter the Gladstone Lock
She must be going for interior decoration
Better not scratch the paintwork going through the docks !
Quote from: IFPete on September 15, 2019, 03:02:58 PM
She must be going for interior decoration
Not sure the MCA would care too much about that! Been published elsewhere that they are to sign off the work once its completed. Its no secret that they were keeping an eye on things in Turkey either!
I have a pic on NIFS. Cant upload here as it isn't my picture
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-europe-arrives-in-liverpool-to-complete-life-extension-works/
Could it be that Birkenhead will do the sign off work. she doesnt need drydocking especially on MES and passenger areas.
Apparently needs work on one of the engines/ propulsion system, Reports on Facebook indicate that there are issues when they go in reverse, would assume parts are fabricated and in Liverpool ready to be fitted.
Nothing wrong with it going forwards achieving over 21 knts on way to Liverpool, obviously MCA certifying to be finished and the MES to be tested, crew training and finally stores to be put onboard before it returns to service.
Quote from: giftgrub on September 15, 2019, 05:36:19 PM
Apparently needs work on one of the engines/ propulsion system, Reports on Facebook indicate that there are issues when they go in reverse, would assume parts are fabricated and in Liverpool ready to be fitted.
Nothing wrong with it going forwards achieving over 21 knts on way to Liverpool, obviously MCA certifying to be finished and the MES to be tested, crew training and finally stores to be put onboard before it returns to service.
She did also seem to have an issue with forwards at one stage of the journey as well, which would reinforce the theory something isn't quite right in terms of propulsion. At one stage she appeared to be running on half power or less. Wouldn't be the first time a vessel has come out of dry dock to go straight for further work. I recall Oscar Wilde leaving H&W and heading almost straight to another shipyard instead of returning back to Rosslare a few years ago! At least she is back in "home" waters, albeit a bit further North and East than she is used too!
Quote from: giftgrub on September 10, 2019, 06:12:49 PM
Stena Lagan and Mersey to be lengthened
https://www.shippax.com/en/news/sedef-shipbuilding-to-lengthen-stena-lagan-and-stena-mersey.aspx
Non-paywalled detail here.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/contract-signed-to-extend-stena-lagan-and-stena-mersey-for-new-role/
Quote from: Steven on September 15, 2019, 10:07:30 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on September 10, 2019, 06:12:49 PM
Stena Lagan and Mersey to be lengthened
https://www.shippax.com/en/news/sedef-shipbuilding-to-lengthen-stena-lagan-and-stena-mersey.aspx
Non-paywalled detail here.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/contract-signed-to-extend-stena-lagan-and-stena-mersey-for-new-role/
Thanks for the link, great info, going to have to be a new bow arrangement to get a bow door fitted, possibly similar to design on link below (scroll to image at bottom)
Going to be interesting where the Lagan and Mersey end up.
https://www.naos-design.com/it/progetti-it/161-p355.html
Quote from: giftgrub on September 15, 2019, 10:56:38 PM
Quote from: Steven on September 15, 2019, 10:07:30 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on September 10, 2019, 06:12:49 PM
Stena Lagan and Mersey to be lengthened
https://www.shippax.com/en/news/sedef-shipbuilding-to-lengthen-stena-lagan-and-stena-mersey.aspx
Non-paywalled detail here.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/contract-signed-to-extend-stena-lagan-and-stena-mersey-for-new-role/
Thanks for the link, great info, going to have to be a new bow arrangement to get a bow door fitted, possibly similar to design on link below (scroll to image at bottom)
Going to be interesting where the Lagan and Mersey end up.
https://www.naos-design.com/it/progetti-it/161-p355.html
The linked design also uses a very narrow bow - I think it was Corsica Ferries that recently ordered a vessel based on this concept. NAOS and Stena seem to think they have found a way around the problem - if they alter the bow design it will increase fuel consumption so it will be interesting to see what they have come up with! A lot of advances have been made in hull design in the past couple of decades of course - after all E-Flexer will be able to do 18kts on around 10,000kW of power!
Plenty of images of the Stena Europe's arrival in Liverpool here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/48738495586/in/photostream/
Click right from this image
https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=Stena%20Europe&sort=date-taken-desc
Quote from: giftgrub on September 16, 2019, 02:54:51 PM
Plenty of images of the Stena Europe's arrival in Liverpool here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/48738495586/in/photostream/
Click right from this image
https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=Stena%20Europe&sort=date-taken-desc
I like what they have done with the two tones of white. Bit felicity-esque but more subtle!
Reported on The Facebook this evening that Europe is expected back in service during the next week, from that we can assume the mechanical gremlins that caused it to go to Liverpool are repaired, all relevant tests / certificates for MCA have been done to their satisfaction and that new MES has been tested and crew familiarization done
Mentioned is a return on Tuesday/ Wednesday, I would expect given that it has been in a Liverpool all week, all stores for crew and customers could have been loaded and it could be ready to go sooner than this !
Stena Europe is leaving its berth in Liverpool this morning, next stop Rosslare !
Potential triple Stena view in Rosslare this afternoon if the Europe puts the foot down, Horizon and Nordica should be both in port between 4 & 5 pm
Stena Europe is Just about Leave Liverpool Gladstone Lock Liverpool For Rosslare for 18.00
Just spotted time on Marine traffic no triple Stena in the harbour tonight. at 17.9knts at the moment with pilot boat behind.
Stena Europe Just about to pass Wicklow, should be in Rosslare, well before the ETA
Looks likey she will take up her service to Fishguard this evening
Quote from: Niall on September 21, 2019, 02:26:24 PM
Looks likey she will take up her service to Fishguard this evening
Not likely... I see reported elsewhere she should start tomorrow evening if all goes to plan.
Stena Europe is finally home, plenty of images on The Facebook.
Nice video on this article here of it leaving Tuzla drydock.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-europe-leaves-liverpool/
Europe is expected back in service tomorrow evening, returning in place of the Nordica on the 18.10 sailing to Fishguard, assuming no further hiccups !
Quote from: giftgrub on September 21, 2019, 07:48:03 PM
Europe is expected back in service tomorrow evening, returning in place of the Nordica on the 18.10 sailing to Fishguard, assuming no further hiccups !
Still saying Tuesday on the Stena Line Freight Live Timetable, but was taking this evenings sailing according to the booking engine. I wouldn't be surprised to see STENA NORDICA taking this evenings sailing, but then I wouldn't be that surprised to see Europe either. A case of wait and see I guess but it would be that unusual for a vessel to take more than 24 hours to return to service after a long refit, never mind after over 6 months off service.
Hearing some limited interior work has been done, but don't expect a huge transformation. She was in pretty good condition anyhow, and the
moaning comments online during her absence perhaps prove how well suited she was already.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-europe-leaves-liverpool/ (https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-europe-leaves-liverpool/)
Nordica took the 18.00 sailing to Fishguard this evening, Europe remains on berth in Rosslare, now we wait to see when it returns to service.
I would say the Nordica and her crew have done a great job covering the route but it is no replacement for the Europe when it comes to the passenger spaces and room onboard.
I think at this stage both crew and passengers are looking forward to the Europe's imminent return to service.
Stena Nordica is doing tonight's crossing!
Presumably she will soon be off to other pastures. The Nordica is a great little ambassador (pun) for Stena. They seem to just throw her on any crossing or charter and she does what is expected of her. I can't ever remember her having any technical issues. I wish her and her crew all the best wherever her next sailings may be.
Quote from: Davy Jones on September 22, 2019, 08:00:37 PM
Stena Nordica is doing tonight's crossing!
Presumably she will soon be off to other pastures. The Nordica is a great little ambassador (pun) for Stena. They seem to just throw her on any crossing or charter and she does what is expected of her. I can't ever remember her having any technical issues. I wish her and her crew all the best wherever her next sailings may be.
Her regular route is Karlskrona-Gdynia
Could either extended Mersey or Lagan replace Horizon?
Help grow without too much risk
What is going on with Europe? Still moored in Rosslare whilst Nordica is operating the FIshguard route? Any indication as to when Europe will be back on the route, I have a booking for the 5th October, hoping it will be back on the route by then
Probably Wednesday
Quote from: pdnr777 on September 23, 2019, 03:44:55 PM
What is going on with Europe? Still moored in Rosslare whilst Nordica is operating the FIshguard route? Any indication as to when Europe will be back on the route, I have a booking for the 5th October, hoping it will be back on the route by then
They can't just throw her in to service as soon as she returns after 6 months absence. Could be crew familiarisation still to be done, stores taken on, etc. Now is the time to do everything before the relief vessel returns to the Baltic.
Return pushed out till tomorrow evening again based on Stena website.
Very clearly not the planned re-stocking etc (which was why she stopped at Liverpool on her way back) and obviously something unforeseen has arisen that they're struggling to resolve
Weather Cancelation tonight.
Quote from: IFPete on September 24, 2019, 03:35:44 PM
Weather Cancelation tonight.
Not Stena... Isle of Inishmore is cancelled for a roundtrip supposedly due to the weather 🤔
Quote from: RorieLen on September 24, 2019, 06:11:45 PM
Quote from: IFPete on September 24, 2019, 03:35:44 PM
Weather Cancelation tonight.
Not Stena... Isle of Inishmore is cancelled for a roundtrip supposedly due to the weather 🤔
Yeats delaying departure out of Dublin till 10 tonight. Weather being blamed also. Guessing they're trying to avoid the high seas forecast for early part of the night
Quote from: jimjoe on September 24, 2019, 01:00:49 PM
Return pushed out till tomorrow evening again based on Stena website.
Very clearly not the planned re-stocking etc (which was why she stopped at Liverpool on her way back) and obviously something unforeseen has arisen that they're struggling to resolve
We can speculate until the cows come home to be fair!
She isn't running tonight, but the higher freight capacity Nordica is with Inishmore off service mind! Worked out well (for Stena) that!
Europe has had a couple of runs overnight and this evening to leave a berth free for the Nordica and has a good burst of speed with some tight turns, looks like the crew have been giving it a good workout.
Europe on live timetable to return to service tomorrow on the 18.00 sailing to Fishguard. (Fingers crossed)
Ferry Tails
Marine Traffic shows Horizon and Europe at Rosslare with Nordica about halfway there. Stena threeway in the next couple of hours?
Stena Nordic still doing tonight's run.
Strange!
In Rosslare this morning and overheard Europe could be back Monday, no information on reasons for delays but will return to service when ready.
Inishmore was running very late and did not leave berth until around 10.40ish was stern in as well, rare sight that way round.
Image of the two regulars below
Stena Nordica is about to start its final crossing on the Rosslare Fishguard route, with its 23.45 departure from Fishguard.
Stena Europe should return to service in the morning bringing to an end its longest absence from service since it was built and finally allow the Nordica to return to its home route before it probably has to come back to Ireland in the new year as cover for the Irish Sea refits of the Stena Fleet.
Stena Europe has returned to service this morning with the 08.00 departure, currently at 19.5 knts on the way to Fishguard.
Stena Nordica currently returning to a berth in Rosslare.
Stena Nordica has taken over the 08.00 departure from Rosslare this morning, Europe has stayed in Rosslare. Possibly some gremlins following the refit.
Quote from: giftgrub on October 01, 2019, 08:25:57 AM
Stena Nordica has taken over the 08.00 departure from Rosslare this morning, Europe has stayed in Rosslare. Possibly some gremlins following the refit.
Took a strange track last night leaving Rosslare.
Quote from: marsav68 on October 01, 2019, 09:02:10 AM
Quote from: giftgrub on October 01, 2019, 08:25:57 AM
Stena Nordica has taken over the 08.00 departure from Rosslare this morning, Europe has stayed in Rosslare. Possibly some gremlins following the refit.
Took a strange track last night leaving Rosslare.
Almost certainly weather routing
Stena Nordica has left Rosslare this evening bound for Fishguard, I think empty as according to ferrycheck sailings this evening are cancelled. Possibly going to Fishguard to await further instructions as Europe has settled back into service, does not seem to be in a rush to return to service between Sweden and Poland..
Europe has just arrived in Rosslare on sailing delayed by storm 20:30 hrs return crossing cancelled until the morning at 08:00 hrs.
Stena Horizon sailing cancelled tonight, near sister ship Epsilon has sailed and just passed Rosslare on the way to France !
Quote from: giftgrub on October 03, 2019, 08:37:32 PM
Stena Nordica has left Rosslare this evening bound for Fishguard, I think empty as according to ferrycheck sailings this evening are cancelled. Possibly going to Fishguard to await further instructions as Europe has settled back into service, does not seem to be in a rush to return to service between Sweden and Poland..
Europe has just arrived in Rosslare on sailing delayed by storm 20:30 hrs return crossing cancelled until the morning at 08:00 hrs.
Stena Horizon sailing cancelled tonight, near sister ship Epsilon has sailed and just passed Rosslare on the way to France !
Full house at Rosslare with Inishmore and Europe there as well as Horizon, so it appears Nordica has gone to Fishguard to shelter from the storm. This means Europe and Inishmore can get going with their morning sailings as usual hopefully as well, thus minimising disruption. The reason EPSILON sailed was her sailing time was moved forward due to the weather, according to Irish Ferries own sailing updates. Must say I'm glad I wasn't on that EPSILON sailing, but hopefully they've got past the worst before it arrived!
Stena Europe: Due to storm Lorenzo the 08:00 hrs sailing this morning to Fishguard has been cancelled. Stena Line regret any inconvenience this may cause.
Stena Nordica at anchor in Fishguard since last night to allow Stena Europe to dock.
Now show destination of Rotterdam on ais.
When/where next for Nordica
Quote from: Cladyman on October 05, 2019, 08:17:25 AM
When/where next for Nordica
Have checked the Stena Live timetable and no jobs for Nordica on any route for awhile, might be going to drydock in Rotterdam or provide cover on North Sea, or maybe additional capacity in the event of a Brexit.
Quote from: giftgrub on October 05, 2019, 06:08:58 PM
Quote from: Cladyman on October 05, 2019, 08:17:25 AM
When/where next for Nordica
Have checked the Stena Live timetable and no jobs for Nordica on any route for awhile, might be going to drydock in Rotterdam or provide cover on North Sea, or maybe additional capacity in the event of a Brexit.
Can it be this?
https://imgur.com/EdpHEMz
Stena Nordica has appeared on timetable for Jan 2020 providing cover on Gothenburg- Kiel, so looks like it will be covering fleet refit period for a bit next year.
Would imagine it will find some work between now and January.
For Irish Sea refits in 2020 Adventurer and Horizon are due to visit drydock, Superfast X can cover Adventurer when it's replaced by Stena Estrid assuming its on time, might they also use it to cover Horizon ( small number of cabins could be an issue)
Also could Adventurer get an interior facelift to keep up with the new look E-Flexer inside?
Stena Estrid appears to be on seatrails at the moment, last reading on Marine Traffic shows it at 23 knts, is currently beyond coastal AIS for accurate location.
Quote from: giftgrub on October 09, 2019, 10:22:57 AM
Stena Nordica has appeared on timetable for Jan 2020 providing cover on Gothenburg- Kiel, so looks like it will be covering fleet refit period for a bit next year.
Would imagine it will find some work between now and January.
For Irish Sea refits in 2020 Adventurer and Horizon are due to visit drydock, Superfast X can cover Adventurer when it's replaced by Stena Estrid assuming its on time, might they also use it to cover Horizon ( small number of cabins could be an issue)
Also could Adventurer get an interior facelift to keep up with the new look E-Flexer inside?
I imagine either Nordica or something like STENA FLAVIA would cover Horizon if required. SSFX would appear to be a very expensive way of covering the route. No guarantees she would fit at either Rosslare or Cherbourg either though I'm sure this could be modelled (though that isn't 100% reliable).
Adventurer has been running about 2 hours late since yesterday. Any ideas as to why?
Quote from: ferryfan on October 10, 2019, 11:10:46 AM
Adventurer has been running about 2 hours late since yesterday. Any ideas as to why?
I believe she is running on three engines due to maintenance.
Stena Nordica switches flag to Sweden and home port Gothenburg?
https://www.stenalinefreight.com/routes/vessels/stena-nordica/
Quote from: boathansm on October 10, 2019, 09:04:31 PM
Stena Nordica switches flag to Sweden and home port Gothenburg?
https://www.stenalinefreight.com/routes/vessels/stena-nordica/
Good spot, has not changed on ais yet.
Stena Estrid was at Weihai anchorage today and is on trails again, can not be too long till it departs China for Europe
Confirmation that Stena Estrid has been on seatrials from its ais.
It reached speeds over 25 knts over the weekend, so not too shabby for the first E Flexer.
No official word yet, but it will take quite awhile to reach Irish shores, so will have to leave China soon, one assumes it will need some minor work when it arrives, (tweaks/adjustments).
Here is a great feature with plenty of images showing the recently refurbished Stena Europe, plenty of images of the entire ferry where the new upgrades are clearly visible and you can check out the onboard spaces.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/a-look-inside-stena-europe/
Thanks to all involved for posting these images and information.
and many more images of the Stena Europe here as well.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/scottmackey/albums/72157623466806142
Possibly the most comprehensive photo album for any ferry available on the web, stunning.
Stena Estrid is scheduled to be handed over to Stena Line soon and will then begin it's rather long delivery voyage.
Posted on the Facebook this evening by Steven Tarbox is the first official report featuring Estrid and Embla presented by Stena Line Senior Master Neil Whittaker
https://mobile.twitter.com/stenaline/status/1184434082186518528?s=21&fbclid=IwAR1uPnLm2eHrn8qFHqxdaDl0gxdG5HlFNtR-yrdnTmPm9dZZNvpoggujgf0
Currently onboard the Stena Europe travelling from Rosslare back to Fishguard. Was speaking to the steward in the Stena Plus Lounge. Said that reasoning for the life extension works and why it took so long was so that this ship will stay on the FIshguard route up to another 15 years. Said that it was done as the ramps in Fishguard cannot accept any of the larger ships in the fleet that currently operate across the Irish sea. Said that there were a lot of teething problems after the Europe had got back to the UK/Ireland from Turkey
STENA ESTRID has completed her sea trials successfully. After some final finishing touches she will be delivered to Stena during November before making her way to the Irish Sea.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stenas-new-successful-seatrials/
whilst we were on holiday a friend, who lives overlooking Rosslare Port, says they were woken up one night by a very loud bang. They reckon it was Stena Europe cloutng the dock side, and that sailings were cancelled for a couple of days. Anybody know anything?
Took a day trip to Fishguard last Tuesday, at 7 euro its good value. I thought that Stena Europe was looking good, the windows are replaced, the interior of the ship is spruce and she performed well in choppy seas. Met a chap who said he had been on the ship when it hit the wall while docking in Rosslare he suggested the ship swayed alarmingly but was otherwise not badly impaired.
On another subject with all this talk of scrubbers for the IF ships why wasn't Stena Europe fitted with scrubbers when she had her life enhancing refit?
16 people lucky to be alive. Well done Stena Staff for your vigilance and for looking after these unfortunates. A team of ambulances and medics have met the ship on arrival.
Stena Estrid is on her way
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-estrid-leaves-weihai-for-the-irish-sea/
Stena Adventurer was cancelled this am 02.30 ex Holyhead and 8.10 ex Dublin due to technical difficulties.
sailed on time afternoon from Holyhead.
She is sharp end in at Holyhead tonight - never seen that before!
Assuming then, the problem is to do with her stern ramp.
due to weather,
Stena Europe cancelled all day.
Stena Adventurer sharp in end on the berth in Holyhead with a tug in assistance. arrived at 16.55 and still on the berth at 21.30
Superfast X waiting patiently for Adventurer to make way.
Estrid is approaching Gulf of Suez
Quote from: jgf on December 10, 2019, 09:33:45 PM
due to weather,
Stena Europe cancelled all day.
Stena Adventurer sharp in end on the berth in Holyhead with a tug in assistance. arrived at 16.55 and still on the berth at 21.30
Superfast X waiting patiently for Adventurer to make way.
Update.
Adventurer was 9 hrs late, arrived Holyhead this am at 8.40 vice 00.01 when they eventually cancelled the 8.10 ex Dublin and 14.00 ex Holyhead. She sailed from Holyhead at 13.40(ie 02.30 sailing) so is now back on schedule.
Superfast X was cancelled ex Holyhead at 8.55 and ex Dublin 14.50. she docked in Holyhead at 14.00 this afternoon and remained there to pick up the 20.30 sailing which was brought forward to 19.30
Stena Europe is 2.30 hrs late leaving Rosslare at 20.30 tonight.
Estrid has docked in Gibralter/ALGECIRAS this morning. I'd say they will be glad to get home at this stage!
Stena Europe cancelled due technical difficulties overnight and today
Does anybody know what is wrong with Stena Europe??? Seems as though the life extension works has created more problems than expected.
She is an old lady
I see Stena Superfast X is in Belfast covering the Superfast VII is she in for refit or she have problems.
Scheduled Drydocking.
The Stena Edda is being filled with fuel.
Quote from: jgf on January 17, 2020, 07:51:04 AM
Stena Europe cancelled due technical difficulties overnight and today
Returned to service today with her lunchtime departure from Fishguard Harbour.
Stena Horizon on her way to Falmouth for drydock. Superfast X covering Rosslare to Cherbourg from tonight just left Rosslare a short while ago.
i booked a cherbourg rosslare this weekend i asked the hostess stena line what will become stena superfast x she told me that she is leaving for greece after replacing stena adventurer
do you think stena line could react with the arrival of grimaldi in cork and brittany ferries in rosslare by introducing other ships
Stena Europe has been stuck in Fishguard overnight twice this week, blaming adverse weather, whist IF' Inishmore keeps sailing. Normally bad weather affects the Inishmore, sonwhat's going off?
I am just leaving stena superfast x the assistant commissioner confirmed to me that he was leaving for greece after replacing stena adventurer
They should keep her on Rosslare route a big upgrade would do the service wonders with the new competition coming they would want top class ship unless the new lenghtend Stena Lagan and Mersey will be send to take over and increase service with the 2 ships.
yes me I prefer stena surperfast x but ps enough cabin and the boat was rented to stene ro ro
Quote from: DaveW1946 on February 01, 2020, 06:35:58 AM
Stena Europe has been stuck in Fishguard overnight twice this week, blaming adverse weather, whist IF' Inishmore keeps sailing. Normally bad weather affects the Inishmore, sonwhat's going off?
It is not always sea state that is the problem,it can be the force and direction of the wind that makes docking dangerous. Was docking on Europe once in Fishguard when the wind broke the mooring and left a 6 ft. gap between the door and the ramp,there was no one on the ramp at the time,and the look on the face of the guy on the door said it all. If memory serves me, didn't one ship get caught by the wind in Rosslare about 20 years back and do several million pounds of damage to port facilities including something to the lifeboat station.
agree with you but the facilities are old and i'm coming back from rosslare with stena superfast x today i'm afraid brittany ferries want some demands on their passengers they have to plan renovations
SFX back in Holyhead this morning and Horizon back in Rosslare . SFX is to release Adventurer for her dry docking.
how long should stena adventurer stay in dry dock?
Quote from: ferryfan on February 04, 2020, 11:01:23 AM
SFX back in Holyhead this morning and Horizon back in Rosslare . SFX is to release Adventurer for her dry docking.
Adventurer going the scenic route to Falmouth taking a break in Dublin at the moment.
sfx leaves for corsica linea french company and will make the route marseille algerie it plans to add 100 cabins on surperfast x and will be renamed A REPITA according to ferry site
Storm Ciara is causing a few cancellations with Stena Estrid cruising off Dublin she was cancelled this am and pm ex Dublin.
Superfast X cancelled 02.15 ex Dublin and 08.55 ex Holyhead sailed from Dublin this afternoon and left Holyhead tonight at 9.30pm.
Stena Europe cancelled all day today and tomorrow.
Stena Estrid appears to be cancelled tonight ex Dublin and the 0230 tomorrow morning from Holyhead is cancelled with pax transferred to IF WB Yeats.
Stena superfast x running 60 to 90 mins late. Horizon brought forward almost 12 hours to depat at 10 am Tuesday morning Ex Rosslare.
Europe cancelled all day today scheduled to sail tomorrow morning from Rosslare.
Stena Estrid went technical this morning and the 02.30 sailing from Holyhead departed at 11.15. therefore delaying the 0855 Superfast X until 13.15.
Stena Europe went technical for a few days last week and had a day off last Monday for essential maintenance. Along with bad weather its been very hit and miss on the Southern Corridor the last 2 weeks.
Stena Adventurer has been a while in Falmouth. Is she having major work done?
I would imagine that the adventurer is also having her scrubbers fitted. Same as Ulysses
Stena Europe will be in Belfast from 19th March to sort out the ongoing 4th engine problem. All crew will be with the ship to train on the escape systems. No replacement boat for estimated 10 days is planned, though as of Wednesay you could still book the route for that period.
Stena Edda is en-route to Loch Ryan port, should arrive around midday
Quote from: Stena Fergus on February 28, 2020, 11:07:42 AM
Stena Edda is en-route to Loch Ryan port, should arrive around midday
and now heading for Birkenhead. ETA 22:30
Anybody know why Estrid has been berthed at the old Rio Tinto jetty since yesterday. Ulysses due back on the 9th March.
Quote from: ferryfan on February 28, 2020, 04:33:07 PM
Anybody know why Estrid has been berthed at the old Rio Tinto jetty since yesterday. Ulysses due back on the 9th March.
Adventurer resumed her usual rota yesterday relieving Estrid. She will take over from SFX tomorrow evening according to the booking engine.
Perhaps they are using the down time to replace one of the large front facing windows on deck 7 which somehow lost it's inner pane.
That's it for SFX she's off to Belfast
Take a look at stena homepage ... £7 each way bookable until 09/03/2020!
Stena Superfast X left Belfast for Piraeus
Quote from: Futureskipper on March 04, 2020, 07:44:36 AM
Stena Superfast X left Belfast for Piraeus
Travelled many times on her, lovely ship & loved the outside deck areas, shame to see her go.
Stena Lagan en route to Turkey for her stretching.
Hope all will be well for the crews on the Irish Sea!
Sweden's Stena Line will lay off 950 employees as a consequence of the dramatic drop in passengers. More layoffs could be in store.
STOCKHOLM, SWEDEN – Ferry company Stena Line will cut 950 jobs in Sweden as a result of the coronavirus outbreak and the travel restrictions imposed by several countries, the company said on Monday.
The company was experiencing a "drastic decline" in travel bookings as a result, with the worst effect experienced in Scandinavia, it said. "At present, it is estimated that passenger operations will not recover before the peak season in summer," the company said in a statement.
Quote from: ferryfan on March 14, 2020, 09:47:30 PM
Stena Lagan en route to Turkey for her stretching.
Interesting as she's still listed on the booking engine as the pairing to edda during the summer with Mersey the missing ship
From Stena Line
Ex Stena Britannica
QuoteStena Line closes the Oslo-Frederikshavn route permanently
(Published 19 March)
Due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) and travel restrictions imposed by several countries, Stena Line has, like many other companies within the travel industry, seen a drastic decline in travel bookings. The effect has been the worst in Scandinavia and on Saturday, 14 March, Stena Line stopped operating the Oslo – Frederikshavn route until further notice. Today, Thursday 19 March the decision was made to permanently close the route after more than 40 years in operation.
The decision means Stena Line will close their office in Oslo which will affect 30 shore-based employees. The vessel Stena Saga is currently in lay up in its port of registry, Gothenburg.
A Cheap pick up for Britiney or Irish Ferries.
Hi Folks, I just wondering about the Stena Nordica she doesn't seem to have done much since she finished covering Rosslare Fishguard last October what Stena's plans for her?
She has been sitting in Europort Rotterdam since before Xmas, she was their when i travelled from Europort on P&O on Monday 2nd December 2019.
Stena Europe has been off rosslare for 24 hours. Anyone know why she was unable to doc.
Quote from: IFPete on March 29, 2020, 06:57:08 PM
Stena Europe has been off rosslare for 24 hours. Anyone know why she was unable to doc.
Sailing update says it's wind. 40km/h from the NNE by the looks of it.
Stena Line have laid off their zero-hour contact crew by terminating the contracts of employment. Once this madness is over they will have to re-apply for their posts afresh.
Stena Line seem to be taking major advantage of this situation sadly.
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A Cheap pick up for Britiney or Irish Ferries.
i would love to see her in IF colours but i cant see where they would have a use for her
Stena Estrid has gone technical and all today's crossings are cancelled. She is moored at the old Rio Tinto jetty at Holyhead.
Made in China!
Made in China , Designed in Sweden, Looked after by Welsh , English and Irish.
Stena Estrid is still out of service and moored at the same berth as yesterday, I wonder how long she is out for?
Its not exactly busy. Perhaps they are installing windows.
Estrid back in action now just departed Holyhead for Dublin
The stena lagen is still in Tuzla anchorage.
Any ideas on why it's not in the shipyard as it had a fuel bunker near it during the weekend
Stena Lagan now reflagged to the Bahamas
Stena Foreteller has sailed to Holyhead and is now anchored just outside the harbour (after spending weeks anchored off Balbriggan). NIferry site reporting that Stena Nordica on her way back to cover Estrid which appears to behaving some problems she has been using a tug to get berthed in Dublin the last few weeks.
At this moment in typing Stena Nordica is still anchored of Rotterdam according to marine traffic.
According to the Stena Line live freight timetable Nordica is due to pick up service with the 0855 from Holyhead Sunday Morning, 3/5/20.
The article on NI Ferry also explains that Nordica has been on a UK Goverment DfT charter presumably a stand by which explains why she has been hanging around Rotterdam so long since finishing in Rosslare last October.
Seen a thing there this morning saying that Stena Estrid is going to be laid up in Cairnryan for 6weeks
Stena Nordica on its way to Holyhead just passed the channel.
Quote from: Futureskipper on May 01, 2020, 04:19:01 PM
Seen a thing there this morning saying that Stena Estrid is going to be laid up in Cairnryan for 6weeks
She is leaving Holyhead now with Cairnryan as her destination I wonder why Cairnryan?
She can dock on the North side of the pier at Cairnryan and not get in the way of normal movements whilst under repair?
Quote from: ferryfan on May 02, 2020, 11:11:14 AM
Quote from: Futureskipper on May 01, 2020, 04:19:01 PM
Seen a thing there this morning saying that Stena Estrid is going to be laid up in Cairnryan for 6weeks
She is leaving Holyhead now with Cairnryan as her destination I wonder why Cairnryan?
They said that the engineers are up at Cairnryan, but it is a strange place, you would probably think that they would go to a shipyard
Possibly Stena own the Quay so they won't need to pay 6 weeks worth of mooring charges?
Even at Holyhead if they laid her up at the Tinto Jetty I think theere would some fees, although I would have thought the old T4 may have been an option - unless its not long enough.
The linkspan at T4 was removed some years back afaik
Yes, the linkspan was, but if they only need to tie her up - which they can only do at Cairnryan anyhow as there isn't a linkspan on the north side of the jetty anyway (according to Google Earth), surely that shouldn't be a problem. Anyway, I'm sure they know what they are doing.
I would be interested to know what the issue is with her, and if it will affect Stena Edda as well?
At this moment in typing, Stena Estrid is about to pass Crammag Head at 7.1knots and Stena Nordica is nearly in Holyhead
This morning Adventurer was 2 hours late leaving Dublin due to some technical issue, bad timing!
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/stena-line-super-ferry-suffers-18181410
Stena Estrid is berthed on the right side of pier beside Stena Superfast VII
Quote from: jgf on May 01, 2020, 09:20:45 PM
Stena Nordica on its way to Holyhead just passed the channel.
Great to see Nordica back, one of my favourites, just a shame I can't take a trip on her due to lockdown!
Quote from: HSS on May 05, 2020, 08:34:39 PM
Quote from: jgf on May 01, 2020, 09:20:45 PM
Stena Nordica on its way to Holyhead just passed the channel.
Great to see Nordica back, one of my favourites, just a shame I can't take a trip on her due to lockdown!
Ditto
Is it just me, or do Stena Nordica and Isle of Inishmore both seem to have a higher technical reliability than most of the other Irish Sea ferries?
Isle of Inishmore , Stena Europe, Stena Adventurer, WB Yeats and Ulysses are very reliable.
The reliability issues have happened due to lack of adequate drydocking time on Ulysses, Stena Superfast VII & VIII.
This was rectified the following drydocking.
Stena Adventurer gone tech this morning has not left Dublin as of 1130 she is currently berthed at Irish Ferries 49 having spent the morning cruising around Dublin bay. Passengers for this afternoons 1400 ex Holyhead have been transferred onto Ulysses at 1410.
Yes and the Adventurer was on Berth 49 (Irish ferries Berth) and had a tug in attendance for departure . The last time I seen her on this Berth was nearly 20 years ago when she was Brand new and they had the usual functions on Board for the VIPS etc;
Stena Nordica seems to be maneuvering just outside holyhead and WB Yeats is moored down near the cruise ship terminal in Dublin, is this something to do with the Adventurers porblems
Stena have terminated the contracts of the zero-hour employed temporary crew (after their fight to get furloughed in the first instance) and Permanent Part Time Crew and offered redundancy packages to all other crew.
Things not looking too good or happy morale there at the moment.
The Stena Lagan is showing off the Greek coast.
That rebuild went well then.
Stena Lagan is to be laid up until further notice due to COVID-19, Stena Lagan's lengthening will be postponed for up to 6months Stena Line Confirmed
She is en route to Limassol for lay up there
Stena Nordica will not return back to Karlskrona-Gdynia this summer.
Stena Nordica looks like it's anchored in Holyhead in the bay in the harbour
Weekend layover again I suspect due to low Traffic.
Superfasts VII and VIII are also out of sync so they may be doing something similar on the North corridor.
Sadly reports of woman overboard from Stena Horizon yesterday afternoon. Rescue boat from Horizon launched and recovered a body.
Face masks compulsory on all Stena sailings and in all port buildings from 15 June exceptions for young children and those with breathing problems.
Anyway Irish UK and French Goverment advise is essential travel only.
Superfast X work has finished and sailing on to france
Stena Estrid on the way back to Holyhead.
Stena Lagan is back in Turkey
Nordica seems to be at Fishguard and Europe is en route as normal. Wonder if there is going to be a change over of vessels?
According to the Stena timetable, Nordica is taking over tomorrow (17th).
Could it be that she is cheaper to run than Stena Europe? - although I wouldn't have thought so with those big engines.
Perhaps they are taking advantage of Nordica being in the area and are going to drydock Europe early.
Thanks for that. Doesn't seem that long since Europe had the big refit but time flies and I suppose a dry docking is due soon.
Europe has arrived into Belfast this morning.
Adventurer off to drydock Belfast early july for 3 weeks ..major stabilizer issues ..Nordica to cover
So, by early July, Europe will be back on Fishguard-Rosslare freeing up Nordica, I guess?
Yes
Quote from: The insider on June 25, 2020, 04:49:42 PM
Adventurer off to drydock Belfast early july for 3 weeks ..major stabilizer issues ..Nordica to cover
Does Nordica have sufficient capacity?
Adventurer has 3400 lane metres, Nordica has 1950, but Estrid has 3100. They will probably put Estrid onto Adventurer's crossings, as they tend to be the busy ones.
They will probably swap Stena Estrids roster with Stena Adventurer and put Stena Nordica on Stena Estrids Roster starting on Sunday Morning from Holyhead. Looks like the passenger loads will not pick up for a while.
Estrid running about 2 hours late ex Holyhead and Adventurer running late ex Dublin no idea what caused either delay.
Last night Estrid left Holyhead around the normal time. At about 22-25 she turned back to Holyhead and didn,t depart until after 01-00 this morning delaying Adventurer's arrival. Thus a knock on effect for the rest of the day. Interested as to what happened, possible medical emergency?
Stena Europe has left H&W tonight and is on its way back to Fishguard to release Stena Nordica.
Great video of the Europe entering dry dock here
https://www.niferry.co.uk/video-stena-europe-in-belfast-building-dock/
According to live timetable, Europe will return to service with the 13.10 sailing to Rosslare on Saturday.
Nordica will then cover on Dublin-Holyhead to allow Adventurer to head for H&W drydock. (Nordica will replace Estrid which will take over Adventurer sailings)
Several other Stena Line vessels will be dry docked this Summer Season on the Irish Sea as they take advantage of having the Nordica available to cover.
Some more details here:
https://www.niferry.co.uk/pr-stena-line-supports-local-industry-with-multi-ship-docking-programme/
Also Stena Danica has returned to service having been laid up due to the downturn in passenger traffic caused by COVID related issues, Stena Vinga the third vessel on the Gothenburg Frederickshavn route is expected to be laid up.
Thanks Giftgrub. I enjoyed the timelapse video.
I'm curious to know why they used the building dock instead of the more regular graving dock at the end for her maintenence, which appeared to be empty for the duration. Will the others do the same?
Quote from: Davy Jones on July 03, 2020, 01:44:52 AM
Thanks Giftgrub. I enjoyed the timelapse video.
I'm curious to know why they used the building dock instead of the more regular graving dock at the end for her maintenence, which appeared to be empty for the duration. Will the others do the same?
Your welcome, with regards to use of Building Dock for drydocking, I think there were issues with normal drydock gate during one of the P&O ferries drydock attempts a few months ago, meaning it was out of action.
Since then H&W have announced they are refurbishing/ upgrading the drydock and I did have a link to a report that it was being made suitable to take the new aircraft carriers of the Royal Navy, but cannot find it now.
Europe is back in action at Fishguard sailed to Rosslare this afternoon, Per Marinetraffic Nordica departed Fishguard but has overshot Holyhead and is on its way to Liverpool it seems.
Europe is cancelled due to essential maintenance on Monday per Stena sailing update -some sort of inspection I assume.
Nordica has probably been to Birkenhead to do berthing trials. I guess she's going to deputise for Stena Mersey in the near future.
On her way back to Holyhead now.
No sailing this Monday morning for Europe from Rosslare after recent return to the route. An inspection is being carried out according to the Stena website.
Stena Adventurer ais as her now heading for "Dunkirk" and not Belfast as previously thought??
Seems a long way to go for a wash 'n' brush up!
Unless (pure speculation) she may be may be relieving one of the behemoths on the Harwich - Hook run afterwards?
Quote from: Davy Jones on July 06, 2020, 02:42:42 PM
Seems a long way to go for a wash 'n' brush up!
Unless (pure speculation) she may be may be relieving one of the behemoths on the Harwich - Hook run afterwards?
There is a post on the previous page saying Adventurer was going to Belfast with major stabiliser issues.
Take from that what you will
Heading to Damen Ship Repair?
And there you have it, straight into dry dock in Dunkirk.
Stena Adventurer leisurely making her way back heading to Holyhead from where she will resume service on the 1400 to Dublin tomorrow.
Where next for Stena Nordica?
Quote from: Davy Jones on July 26, 2020, 11:24:54 AM
Where next for Stena Nordica?
Covering Belfast Heysham which will be diverted to Birkenhead. https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-nordica-return-belfast-heysham-relief/?_ga=2.234651934.1640877784.1595595494-423082911.1585136783 (https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-nordica-return-belfast-heysham-relief/?_ga=2.234651934.1640877784.1595595494-423082911.1585136783)
Is Embla ahead of schedule? Just noticed is has appeared on radar this morning.
Under going sea trials at the moment in China , as scheduled .
Just back from my fist ferry crossing this year. I took Stena Estrid from Dublin and the ship is excellent and the crew were very professional especially in relation to covid guidelines,
I returned on Stena Adventurer and was surprised at how many changes have been made to her during her recent dry docking.
On deck 7 the Hygge Lounge is now located overlooking the bow (was previously a popular seating area) The cinema's have been relocated and a gaming machine area is now located in their place. The Met Grill on deck 7 has been replaced with the Barista Coffee shop. I think the children's play area has been closed due to restrictions
On deck 8 the Stena Plus lounge has been extended taking over the area vacated by the Barista Coffee shop. The Met Grill is now Taste and has all new seating and flooring.
On Deck 9 the cinema's have taken the space previously occupied by the Hygge Lounge. Cabin keys are now issued at check in instead of guest services and the keys are now disposable cardboard.
Again covid precautions are in place all over the ship with crew on both ships doing a great job explaining things to passengers and insisting on face coverings being worn. Perspex screens are in place at all counters and guest services.
Social distancing measures in place all over the ship with seating areas limited and blocked. Foot passengers numbers boarding by coach are also being limited to about 15 per coach.
A warning for people travelling by foot, Morton's are not operating any services to either Stena or Irish Ferries terminals and today there were no taxi's at the port.
Good to hear of all the precautions and safety measures in place. My last trip was aboard Estrid in March before things deteriorated - at that point there was a growing awareness of social distancing plus sanitiser on counters.
If anyone is making the journey on foot it may be of help to note that Dublin Bus route 53 - the public bus which terminates outside Irish Ferries Terminal 1 - is operating as normal. There is no official stop at Terminal 2 Stena Line (the stop pole seen across the yard from T2 is from years ago and is not served despite being in Dublin Bus yellow) but it's just a 7/8 minute walk to/from Terminal 1 with paths the whole way. Route 53 doesn't specifically connect with any ferry but having used it many times over the years I've seen fellow passengers going for Stena/IF/Steam Packet sailings on it.
The fare is e1.55 with a Leapcard.
Due to storm Stena Estrid and Adventurer have been swapped on timetable for today at least.
Why would Adventurer be taking this route to the south? Weather related?
Quote from: marsav68 on August 21, 2020, 10:34:45 AM
Why would Adventurer be taking this route to the south? Weather related?
At a guess, it's to make the trip a bit less rough (gale force winds on the Irish Sea at the moment from the south).
Yeah .. weather routing ...plus the fact her stabilizers are non existing at this time so another drydock this year looks very likely . You heard it here first 👍
Quote from: The insider on August 21, 2020, 10:12:48 PM
Yeah .. weather routing ...plus the fact her stabilizers are non existing at this time so another drydock this year looks very likely . You heard it here first 👍
I had thought it strange that port tug Shackleton was used to assist her berthing on a crossing I made a couple of weeks ago.
Stena Nordica making another appearance on Dublin - Holyhead from 14th September taking over from Estrid not quite sure where she's going.
Quote from: ferryfan on September 03, 2020, 11:20:46 AM
Stena Nordica making another appearance on Dublin - Holyhead from 14th September taking over from Estrid not quite sure where she's going.
Deputising for the Superfasts on Cairnryan-Belfast while they drydock.
Work is well underway in Stena Lagan
Stena Estrid will make her way to Belfast from Holyhead this evening to take over and let Stena Superfast VIII go for dry docking at Harland and Wolff.
Stena Nordica is at Holyhead to take over Estrids sailings from the 2030 departure.
I dont think Ive seen it reported here but Seatruck Panorama has been on charter to Stena Line since 2nd September to provide extra capacity on the Belfast-Birkenhead route but she also came in handy covering the Heysham route as Stena Scotia was delayed in dry dock.
Scotia spent more than a month at H&W and finally emerged last week.
Quote from: Futureskipper on September 08, 2020, 12:11:36 AM
Work is well underway in Stena Lagan
Another couple of pics of the conversion
the other one
Stena Vinga is on the way to Cherbourg from Frederickshavn where it will take over from the Stena Horizon on the Rosslare - Cherbourg route from Tuesday night?s crossing from Rosslare. (Possibly going to Cherbourg for berthing trials on the way to Rosslare)
This allows the Irish Sea refits of the Stena Line fleet to continue as outlined on the below link
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-vinga-to-replace-stena-nordica-as-irish-sea-relief-vessel/
A few of Stena Vinga arriving in a misty and murky Rosslare earlier today
(https://i.imgur.com/sxsWMXU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/c4kEHKw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fSpD8ov.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XvrdZG3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JIHoIZp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/h148yE7.jpg)
Class images, thanks for posting, Vinga looks so small compared to what we are used to seeing on Irish Sea, always looks (possibly an illusion)to be high in the front since the trailer deck was added.
The new kid on the block with the steady eddie and the old lady ;D together at Rosslare yesterday evening
(https://i.imgur.com/ppYhzmL.jpg)
Quote from: ccs on September 29, 2020, 11:14:41 AM
The new kid on the block with the steady eddie and the old lady ;D together at Rosslare yesterday evening
Now that is a great pic! Thanks for sharing
Quote from: marsav68 on September 29, 2020, 05:16:47 PM
Quote from: ccs on September 29, 2020, 11:14:41 AM
The new kid on the block with the steady eddie and the old lady ;D together at Rosslare yesterday evening
Now that is a great pic! Thanks for sharing
Some zoom on the camera, great shot, you must have been in the Strand to get that one. Class
Quote from: marsav68 on September 29, 2020, 05:16:47 PM
Quote from: ccs on September 29, 2020, 11:14:41 AM
The new kid on the block with the steady eddie and the old lady ;D together at Rosslare yesterday evening
Now that is a great pic! Thanks for sharing
Quote from: giftgrub on September 29, 2020, 07:35:58 PM
Some zoom on the camera, great shot, you must have been in the Strand to get that one. Class
Thanks lads! I'm using a Panasonic Lumix with a 60x zoom though i only needed to go to 25x to get that shot. I took it from the end of a cul-de-sac called Rosehill Heights. Using the full zoom you could pick out the names on the individual ships ;D
Great shot, amazing image regardless of camera.
Used to walk to the harbour from the Strand along the cliff top 25+ years ago with the dog and end the walk sitting by the lighthouse on the pier (holding onto his lead tightly)in the harbour (security was not like it is now), when they were building berth 1 and fishermen quay was even able to walk through construction site with St Patrick 2 towering above us as area was drained. Another time Cambridge Ferry was on/near current berth four and could have jumped onto the back deck if we wanted. Happy memories and great to see the harbour from that viewpoint.
Quote from: giftgrub on September 29, 2020, 08:58:59 PM
Great shot, amazing image regardless of camera.
Used to walk to the harbour from the Strand along the cliff top 25+ years ago with the dog and end the walk sitting by the lighthouse on the pier (holding onto his lead tightly)in the harbour (security was not like it is now), when they were building berth 1 and fishermen quay was even able to walk through construction site with St Patrick 2 towering above us as area was drained. Another time Cambridge Ferry was on/near current berth four and could have jumped onto the back deck if we wanted. Happy memories and great to see the harbour from that viewpoint.
Great memories of more innocent times.
Stena Horizon seems to be anchored between rosslare and arcklow. Not sure if this is due to the Stena Vinga arriving or not
Stena Nordica has completed service on the Irish Sea for 2020 and is on the way to Gdańsk for drydock and refit before returning to the Karlskrona Gdynia route alongside Stena Spirit and Vision replacing the Stena Baltica which returns to Brittany Ferries.
Heading North from Holyhead presumably to avoid Storm Alex which is coming in from the South, crew will have an interesting voyage across the top of Scotland and across.
The Nordica has more than shown it?s worth to Stena in the last nearly two years providing relief cover on the Irish Sea including a rest in Rotterdam while on charter as a Brexit relief vessel.
Would imagine it won?t be too long before we see the Nordica return to the Irish Sea as the Stena Line fleet shuffle begins with the revised Stena Lagan and Mersey entering service next year on routes to be confirmed.
Stena Nordica now showing Ventspils as destination and has increased speed to over 20 Knots after pottering along at 12/13 knots since leaving Holyhead. This would be v strange as apparently has to drydock in Gdańsk ASAP.
Stena Horizon is on the Holyhead to Dublin route
Scottish Viking has technical problems and has been out of service since Monday. Stena Nordica will provide cover and then go to Remontowa shipyard for refit.
Stena's Mersey and Lagan are to be deployed (after completion of lengthening works) on the Nynashamn (Sweden) to Ventspils (Latvia) route a crossing of over 11 hours. Tehy will be replacing two other Visentini ships the Stena Flavia and the Scottish Viking.
Stena Estrid is heading for Holyhead
Quote from: Futureskipper on October 23, 2020, 12:31:06 AM
Stena Estrid is heading for Holyhead
She is due to take over from Adventurer on Sunday allowing Adventurer to dry dock for repairs.
Stena Vinga hasn't moved out of Cherbourg for the last few days. This evening's sailing from Rosslare is cancelled due to the bad weather. It looks like she has trouble managing heavy seas on the passage around Lands End.
Not the idea relief ferry so! Vinga due to leave Cherbourg tomorrow early at 13.00 French time.
Quote from: jgf on October 29, 2020, 08:21:20 PM
Not the idea relief ferry so! Vinga due to leave Cherbourg tomorrow early at 13.00 French time.
She is due in Rosslare about 0500 tomorrow morning but I think she will run into some really bad weather with some 70km winds forecast
Stena Vinga stayed at home in Rosslare last night. Epsilon left late and is currently approaching Lands End from the north.
Pont Aven seems to have made it on time from Cork to Roscoff, I guess that was her last trip of the year from Ireland. One wonders what the landscape will look like when she returns next spring.
Stena Europe is tracking north in the middle of its normal route. The next sailing is cancelled because of technical problems. Wonder what is happening.
Later, she turned south west and headed to Rosslare at about 12 knots. Today, she is up and running again so back to to normal it seems,
Horizon seems to be having some difficulties she was a couple of hours late departing Dublin this morning and appears to have had some difficulty berthing in Holyhead. She is has just left her berth Adventurer was due back today but as of now she is still in dry dock in Belfast but showing Dublin as her destination at 15:15.
Adventurer leaving Belfast bound for Holyhead expect her to take the 0230 to Dublin not sure when they are switching Estrid back
Adventurer will take over from Estrid for the 0230 sailing which will allow Estrid to take over from Horizon on the 0855 sailing ex Holyhead.
Adventurer suffered a delay leaving Dublin this morning departed nearly 2 hrs late.
Horizon still in Holyhead.
When does she head back to her normal duties?
Shes in isolation for 14 days
As mentioned Stena Horizon is still in quarantine due to a number of Covid 19 cases among the crew.
Stena Estrid seems to have gone technical on arrival in Dublin last night not leaving until this afternoon. I am only seeing this now after the fact how did Adventurer dock in Dublin ?
They moved Estrid to a different berth.
Horizon back in Holyhead this afternoon maybe collecting the crew? Also visiting Holyhead today on sea trial is the Sir David Attenborough (forever boatymcboatface)
Stena Horizon finally on the way back to Rosslare to replace Stena Vinga on Cherbourg route from Saturday, delayed due to reports of COVID among crew.
Stena Vinga expected to take over from Stena Europe which is going to H&W Belfast for a drydock ahead of schedule, normal tlc to be done along with reported steel deck replacement on deck 5 (in typical Swedish style Vinga is cashless onboard (as is nearly entire city of Stockholm) so have a card if travelling.
The former Stena Egeria (Kerry) has left Santander on the way to the Baltic to provide refit cover for DFDS.
Stena Embla handed over in Weihei and expected to leave for Ireland/ UK next week where it will replace Stena Mersey on Belfast Birkenhead (although for how long it will serve on this route is subject to random rumours it has been offered to Marine Atlantic for their new vessel prompted by its increased ice class specification)
Stena Vinga sailed to Fishguard this afternoon (empty I think) due to take over fro Stena Europe from the 23.45 to Rosslare tonight.
Stena Vinga took over Rosslare Fishguard as per schedule last night but has been delayed today due to a medical emergency, I hope everyone is ok. This evenings/tonight's scheduled sailings from Rosslare and Fishguard have been cancelled.
Hope all ok on Vinga.
As Stena Europe has entered dry dock at H&W Belfast today, here is a link for a short video reminder of its time in Turkey.
https://youtu.be/b-u7KKQoq88
While the Europe was gone for six months it would have returned to service a lot earlier but was delayed due to a shaft issue, as can be seen the refit was quite comprehensive.
Quote from: jgf on November 22, 2020, 05:20:45 PM
Stena Vinga took over Rosslare Fishguard as per schedule last night but has been delayed today due to a medical emergency, I hope everyone is ok. This evenings/tonight's scheduled sailings from Rosslare and Fishguard have been cancelled.
Vinga now gone technical, cancelled ex Fishguard tonight, is only just leaving Rosslare as I type. I don't think this ferry is as good a relief ship as Nordica given all the cancellations due to weather on the Cherbourg route since Vinga arrived in Rosslare. I can't imagine the hauliers are very happy.
Quote from: jgf on November 23, 2020, 09:01:01 PM
Quote from: jgf on November 22, 2020, 05:20:45 PM
Stena Vinga took over Rosslare Fishguard as per schedule last night but has been delayed today due to a medical emergency, I hope everyone is ok. This evenings/tonight's scheduled sailings from Rosslare and Fishguard have been cancelled.
Vinga now gone technical, cancelled ex Fishguard tonight, is only just leaving Rosslare as I type. I don't think this ferry is as good a relief ship as Nordica given all the cancellations due to weather on the Cherbourg route since Vinga arrived in Rosslare. I can't imagine the hauliers are very happy.
The major reason the Nordica can cope so well and is a great relief vessel is its ludicrously overpowered, the Nordica has 4.5 times more kw available than Vinga if required so can power through pretty much any conditions (obviously due to fuel use this full power is rarely used) but even a little bit more if required can make a huge difference.
Stena Line Irish Sea were lucky to have access to the Nordica for as long as they did, given the level of cancellations the Vinga is not exactly a perfect replacement vessel.
http://www.doverferryphotosforums.co.uk/mv-malo-seaways-past-and-present/
http://www.doverferryphotosforums.co.uk/mv-stena-vinga-past-and-present/
Nordica 39,600 kw on four engines versus Vinga 8,600 kw.
Remember Stena Vinga is overweight.
Embla, appears to be getting ready to depart. Currently showing Singapore on 07/12.
Stena Vinga appears to be sailing up and down the coast this morning to the north of Fishguard. Seems weather related. Supposedly berthing at 1200 but still offshore at 1400. Turning into a long trip from wherever.
Wind is only 20kts so it shouldn't be too bad. That said, my sister went to Isle of Man a couple of years ago on sister ship Ben-my-Chree in fresh weather and she said it was a terrible passage. I suppose the smaller ships are bound to be thrown around more.
Perhaps it is the direction the weather is coming from that makes berthing difficult.
Vinga Cruise of Cardigan bay earlier today
This is an annual event normally performed by Stena Europe.
Quote from: IFPete on December 07, 2020, 01:56:48 PM
This is an annual event normally performed by Stena Europe.
Was going to suggest that ! Europe offers much more space to spend a day on board also.
While on subject of Stena Europe it is expected to leave drydock in H&W and move to ship repair quay to continue its 2021 refit soon, in images posted on the Facebook work has been done to the stern ramps which have been removed, bow door area has been painted and internally one assumes that the car deck steel replacement has been started and is carrying on as planned. At the moment Europe is on timetable to return to service on December 21st.
Stena Europe moved out of drydock earlier today and is now alongside the ship repair quay at H&W, it seems the left side stern door has been removed and not refitted yet, the centre and right side doors have been refitted, also it does look like it has been given a repaint / clean as hull and superstructure look to be in great condition.
The Stena Foreteller is to join the Stena Line Irish Sea fleet as the second ship on Rosslare Cherbourg form January, doubling up with Stena Horizon as Stena will offer daily sailings six days a week.
https://www.stenalinefreight.com/news/double-frequency-and-capacity-on-our-rosslare-cherbourg-route/?fbclid=IwAR29M616korJMj3PVbqCmon7Fl1crOPtUm9BH_yA1HCfPPOlMOi1jod3MVE
First posted by Gary Andrew's on the Facebook
Foreteller currently crossing Bay of Biscay on the way to Falmouth probably to get Stena branding on funnels.
Rosslare is going to be busy next year.
The Irish Times is now after publishing an article confirming the increase in capacity from January
"Stena doubling Rosslare-Cherbourg sailings due to post-Brexit demand"
Second ferry added to direct service to France amid concerns over delays on UK landbridge
Ferry operator Stena Line is doubling weekly sailings on its Rosslare-Cherbourg route to meet demand for direct routes to mainland Europe to bypass post-Brexit checks at UK borders.
In a further signal of changes to trade driven by the UK?s impending departure from EU economic rules, the Swedish company is adding another vessel to the direct route to France.
Fears about traffic snarl-ups at UK and EU ports on the Irish Sea and English Channel has led to an increase in the direct ferries to continental Europe, and a new direct service to France.
The number of services on Stena?s ferry route from the south-eastern port to France will increase from three to six, as a result of an additional ferry being assigned.
The increased service follows the decision of Danish ferry operator DFDS last month to re-enter the Irish market with a new, six times a week service between Rosslare and Dunkirk..."
"Stena is adding a freight-only vessel, Stena Foreteller, providing an additional 3,000 lane metres of freight capacity per trip with facilities for up to 12 driver-accompanied units..."
Full article via below web link courtesy of The Irish Times
Sources:
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/stena-doubling-rosslare-cherbourg-sailings-due-to-post-brexit-demand-1.4433179
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2020/1210/1183666-stena-line/
From Shippax
https://www.shippax.com/en/news/stena-line-doubles-frequency-on-direct-france-ireland-route.aspx
Anyone know if this affects the previously-announced change to the Stena Horizon's schedule?
The press release for the Foreteller suggests six round trips a week would be offered but for the two ships to operate in tandem they would both need to be on a rolling timetable (i.e. seven round trips) unless the Horizon change has been reversed?
No change to freight timetable yet, Horizon is on new rolling timetable for January without lay over day on Monday at the moment.
However the always reliable niferry has
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-to-double-ireland-france-freight-capacity/
Stena CEO - 12 weekly crossing which is six round trips
Stena Foreteller in Rosslare this morning presumably for berthing trials before heading to Falmouth.
Foreteller has left Rosslare, now showing Loch Ryan as a destination, possibly going to the standby quay at Loch Ryan Port until the New year.
Last nights sailing from Liverpool to Belfast was cancelled after 6 crew members on Stena Edda tested positive for Covid 19. Passengers are expected to complete their journey's on today's crossing on Stena Mersey.
Vinga has been stuck in Rosslare due to the weather since Sunday afternoon.
Looks like more weather related problems for Vinga. Stuck in Fishguard at the mo.
Quote from: ColinB on December 18, 2020, 03:09:41 PM
Looks like more weather related problems for Vinga. Stuck in Fishguard at the mo.
They transferred pax from todays 13.10 ex Fishguard to Irish Ferries at Pembroke Dock per the Stena Line sailing updates
Europe due to depart Belfast on 22nd at 10am according to Belfast harbour website
https://booking.belfast-harbour.co.uk/
Freight timetable seems to be adjusting on a daily basis
https://www.stenalinefreight.com/timetable/
Vinga does not seem to have the most reliable vessel for the Irish Sea given the level of cancellations on the Fishguard and Cherbourg services.
Quote from: ColinB on December 18, 2020, 03:09:41 PM
Looks like more weather related problems for Vinga. Stuck in Fishguard at the mo.
Now seems to stuck in Rosslare - weather related. Other ferries seem to be operating in this area.
Quote from: ColinB on December 19, 2020, 09:52:30 PM
Quote from: ColinB on December 18, 2020, 03:09:41 PM
Looks like more weather related problems for Vinga. Stuck in Fishguard at the mo.
Now seems to stuck in Rosslare - weather related. Other ferries seem to be operating in this area.
The weather in Rosslare this morning was so calm, not a breeze nor a wave to be seen, with sun shining, yet Vinga locked up (ramp up) and sailing cancelled ! Inishmore arrived around 10.40.
Vinga running in Cargo mode tomorrow according to Freight timetable.
Also noticed that while Europe is back on timetable from Dec 22nd, Premium tickets sold out until Jan 11th, possibly not back until Jan.
Quote from: giftgrub on December 20, 2020, 12:27:17 PM
Quote from: ColinB on December 19, 2020, 09:52:30 PM
Quote from: ColinB on December 18, 2020, 03:09:41 PM
Looks like more weather related problems for Vinga. Stuck in Fishguard at the mo.
Now seems to stuck in Rosslare - weather related. Other ferries seem to be operating in this area.
The weather in Rosslare this morning was so calm, not a breeze nor a wave to be seen, with sun shining, yet Vinga locked up (ramp up) and sailing cancelled ! Inishmore arrived around 10.40.
Vinga running in Cargo mode tomorrow according to Freight timetable.
Also noticed that while Europe is back on timetable from Dec 22nd, Premium tickets sold out until Jan 11th, possibly not back until Jan.
Europe is still moored in Belfast this morning (21st) so she needs to get a wiggle on to be back on timetable tomorrow. Vinga running today as normal but I suspect subject to carrying restrictions as per the news channels this morning. Passengers may be back in 48 hours or maybe not. Until then, hauling freight only it seems.
Stena are bringing in the Foreteller to Rosslare scheduled to sail to Cherbourg at 18.00 tomorrow Tuesday. Horizon will sail at 22.00 tomorrow Tuesday as well. Foreteller hasn't left Lock Ryan yet.
Foreteller is on her way south late this afternoon.
Vinga has finished service on the Rosslare Fishguard service and is on the way to Rotterdam, and Stena Europe is still in Belfast and now not scheduled to depart until 21.00 tomorrow.
Stena Foreteller has departed Rosslare for Cherbourg with Stena Horizon due to leave later tonight in the last departure pre Christmas, on the route.
Stena Europe still scheduled to depart Belfast at 21.00, although destination shows Rosslare it is not scheduled to pick up sailings until Wednesday night?s departure from Fishguard. Passengers are not allowed to travel into Ireland from UK so will be primarily operating for freight and any passengers given permission to travel to Ireland.
Europe looks very well in images from Belfast, freshly painted and work carried out on stern doors and also internal steel work on the car decks.
I've noticed Stena Forecaster on AIS as operating between Dublin and Liverpool ! anyone know anything about that .
Quote from: Chef on December 22, 2020, 07:55:55 PM
I've noticed Stena Forecaster on AIS as operating between Dublin and Liverpool ! anyone know anything about that .
Forecaster on charter to P&O for Dublin Liverpool
Stena Europe has left Belfast, destination Fishguard
Europe arrived in Fishguard early today and spent the day alongside, now doing a Cardigan bay cruise!
Stena Embla cleared the Straights of Gibralter earlier and now on the last leg of her delivery voyage. Apparently aiming for Holyhead for some reason. Due alongside 10.00hrs 2nd January.
Quote from: Davy Jones on December 30, 2020, 01:23:56 AM
Stena Embla cleared the Straights of Gibralter earlier and now on the last leg of her delivery voyage. Apparently aiming for Holyhead for some reason. Due alongside 10.00hrs 2nd January.
Embla is first expected to replace Estrid for a week to allow for some modifications to front windows to be carried out, then Edda before replacing the Mersey, both Estrid and Edda have very large windows at front, Embla and Galicia have same size but with what appears to be support/bracing in the centre. There could even be a container of parts on board Embla from the shipyard/ suppliers.
Timing probably not perfect but would have thought a quick visit to drydock for Estrid and Edda (to make sure all good underneath and a quick clean) could be done as last time they will have a spare ship on Irish Sea for quite awhile.
Embla is now en route to Belfast, due 12.45pm today
Seems to be reduced numbers of sailing Fishguard - Rosslare for a couple of days for Stena Europe.
Stena Embla will make its Irish Sea debut in Rosslare tomorrow as it takes over from Horizon on Rosslare - Cherbourg for a few sailings - confirmed on Stena Freight Timetable.
Stena Embla has left Belfast, next stop Rosslare for its maiden voyage for Stena Line carrying passengers to Cherbourg.
This is possibly the first time a brand new ferry has sailed out of Rosslare, in modern times, I know the St Christopher was possibly the last in 1981 (when it covered for the Stena Normandica) when it was diverted on its delivery voyage from H&W Belfast to Dover.
The Embla is expected to replace the Edda after the weekend as the Edda has disappeared from the live timetable next week. Could we see an E-Flexer return to Rosslare to give Stena plenty of lanemetres and cabins on the route.
From Stena themselves
https://news.cision.com/stena-line-ukie/r/stena-line-s-newest-ship-debuts-on-rosslare-cherbourg-route,c3267777
From the great Ni Ferry site
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-embla-to-debut-on-rosslare-france-route/
Irish Times
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/stena-moves-larger-ship-to-french-route-as-more-firms-seek-to-avoid-brexit-checks-1.4457726?mode=amp
Stena Estrid will apparently replace the Stena Horizon on the Rosslare - Chebourg route as soon as possible, So Embla this weekend and then Estrid will take over, would imagine by the following weekend.
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2021/0113/1189595-stena-line-ferry/
Embla just off the coast near Blackwater at the moment, should be in Rosslare around 9/9.30 this morning
I wonder where RTE got the idea that the Estrid would be taking over?
Photo from Rosslare Port of Stena Embla and Stena Europe alongside at Rosslare. Difference in size is noticeable to say the least!
(https://www.irish-ferries-enthusiasts.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/1610644878477.jpg)
Great picture, thanks for posting Kieran.
Difference of sixty metres in length is significant, Europe is sitting closer to the berth/ramp but the oldest and newest vessels in the Stena Line fleet together for the first time.
Estrid will defo be taken over at some stage for at least 2months
From Stena website - because of ?operational issues? there will be only one trip each way per day from 15th to 26th January on Fishguard to Rosslare route. So, they have cut the timetable in half for about 10 days.
There is now a Dublin - Cherbourg showing route on the Stena Line live freight timetable. It shows Estrid doing 1 return trip next weekend Jan 23/24. Things are getting very interesting.
Quote from: ColinB on January 15, 2021, 10:09:25 AM
From Stena website - because of ?operational issues? there will be only one trip each way per day from 15th to 26th January on Fishguard to Rosslare route. So, they have cut the timetable in half for about 10 days.
The timetable has been cut since last weekend.
Estrid and Horizon due to swap routes on Tuesday with Horizon still expected to do a weekend Dublin to Cherbourg run.
Estrid is still on the berth in Holyhead at 13.00 Adventurer (and Ulysses) are waiting outside. Weather?
Horizon has been re timed ex Rosslare to Cherbourg now due to sail at Midnight due to the forecasted weather.
Sat 30/01/21
1st weekend of disruption since the Brexit related increase in direct France services.
Stena Horizon in Dublin and Stena Estrid heading down to Rosslare
Rosslare seems to be very busy these days, not just with Stena ships but other operators. However, the Fishguard service is less often. All probably to do with Brexit and direct links to the continent.
Stena Line updating timetables - lots of strange vessel movements - should become clearer when then are finished.
Estrid down for both Rosslare - Cherbourg and Dublin - Holyhead at the same timem no E Flexers on Belfast Liverpool, just Stena Mersey !!
I believe Stena Mersey is leaving Irish waters and
1.Stena Europe -Dublin Holyhead to replace Horizon
2.Stena Horizon -to Replace stena Mersey
3.Rosslare Fishgaurd closing for a week.
All the above is fluid and can change
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-shuffles-irish-sea-ferry-fleet/
This weekend?s weather is having an impact
Estrid not docking in Rosslare today, sailing diverted to Dublin due to high winds in Rosslare.
Europe cancelled due to weather
Adventurer running well behind schedule
From Ferrycheck
Due to adverse weather conditions the Stena Estrid will not be able to dock in Rosslare tomorrow, the sailing from Rosslare to Cherbourg on Saturday February 13th will be diverted to Dublin.
Departure from Dublin will be at 19.00hrs and check-in is advised by 17.30hrs. Stena Line apologise for any inconvenience caused. If you wish to contact Stena Line please call +353 1907 5555.
Bad weather probably having an affect on the Stena timetable reshuffle. Horizon off to Liverpool a day early she was due to take the 0215 crossing to Holyhead tomorrow morning. Stena Mersey finished in service next stop Turkey for refit and stretch. Stena Edda has not left dry dock at H&W, she was expected to take provide cover for both Superfast's on Belfast to Cairnryan. Stena Europe scheduled to take up the afternoon crossing from Dublin tomorrow has not yet left Fishguard.
Edda has left Belfast twice and is currently manoeuvring at the mouth of the Lough. She was due to replace Superfast VIII this morning
Reports online suggest there are technical problems with STENA EDDA and that she won?t release STENA SUPERFAST VIII for dry dock until Friday at the earliest.
Stena Edda has just left Belfast again on sea trials.
Another night of trials, anyone know what the problem is? Will they regret buying from China?
Could it be the same or similar problem that put Estrid out for 6months last year.
Quote from: Futureskipper on February 18, 2021, 04:40:34 PM
Could it be the same or similar problem that put Estrid out for 6months last year.
Unlikely to be another engine failure, and no need to take for a spin to check that, possibly given reports of vibrations at the rear while in service, potentially something to do with propeller shaft / shaft generators/ propeller/ rudder areas. No news has been reported on this issue but hopefully they have it sorted.
Next E-Flexer leaving China might be sent with container loads of spare parts if there is an issue common to the fleet !
Edda just leaving Belfast harbour now, let?s see what happens tonight.
Heading north tonight
A lot of manoeuvres off the Antrim coast overnight.
Stena Edda is now scheduled to replace Superfast VIII on this afternoon's retimed sailing
Edda has returned to service tonight, Superfast VIII now in drydock.
Former Stena Lagan is ever so slowly getting ready to return to service (the complex rebuilding is running behind schedule) as Stena Scandica, latest video is below.
https://m.facebook.com/groups_browse/your_groups/#!/story.php?story_fbid=148036507153551&id=522030891246447&ref=group_browse
Also seems to be first appearance of revised Stena Line livery with new font for the Connecting Europe slogan.
Stena Scandica is floating at long last as the drydock was flooded last night.
Looks like the bow is nearly finished, missing paint and lots of fresh weld marks on the bow doors in images posted on LinkedIn
Superfast VIII back in service, VII now in H&W
AN INVESTIGATION IS continuing after a woman and her 11-year-old daughter went overboard from a ferry as it moved into dock in Belfast yesterday. They were rescued from Belfast harbour after entering the water from the Stena Horizon vessel, which was arriving from Liverpool. A rescue boat from another Stena Line ferry that was in the harbour at the time, the Stena Superfast VII, was the first to reach them, and crew members managed to pull them to safety.
https://www.thejournal.ie/woman-child-rescued-belfast-harbour-overboard-5366539-Feb2021/ (https://www.thejournal.ie/woman-child-rescued-belfast-harbour-overboard-5366539-Feb2021/)
Stena Nautica is on the way back to service today after a refit at Oresund drydock and also features the revised font for the ?Connecting Europe?branding.
Image posted on LinkedIn
Stena Estrid's delayed arrival from Cherbourg this afternoon (due to earlier weather delays from Saturday) is causing some congestion in Rosslare this evening. Stena Europe waited for the berth to come available and will have to be turned around in an hour if not to delay the Inishmore.
Connemara and Drotten on the other berths. Foreteller will return to the berth to finish loading for the 22.00 sailing after their departure.
Stena Baltica (Mersey) has its new bow fitted already in drydock at Sedef Turkey, images posted on LinkedIn.
In some good news for Rosslare Fishguard the Stena Europe is from today going to 24 crossings per week ! Nearly back at full service.
Sunday and Monday remain at reduced frequency.
Stena Horizon arrived in Holyhead on Sunday morning and hasn't left since. Does anyone know if she has a problem or is getting some work done?
Quote from: ferryfan on April 27, 2021, 10:20:13 AM
Stena Horizon arrived in Holyhead on Sunday morning and hasn't left since. Does anyone know if she has a problem or is getting some work done?
Back in service with the 20.30 sailing tonight, Operational reasons for cancelled crossings, could be technical or any other issues.
Stern door issue i heard
A familiar ferry on the cover of the latest issue of Ships Monthly as the Stena Europe marks 40 years in service this year, available in all good newsagents and on Readly and from pocket mags.
Just came across video of the life extension work carried out on Stena Europe in 2019 a good watch.
https://youtu.be/b-u7KKQoq88
Just seen a post on Stena Lines LinkedIn in which it stated that the Stena Europe has been taken out of service and sent to Harland and Wolff Shipyard for repair. In the post it says "Following a routine inspection of the ferry Stena Europe, Stena Line have taken the decision to send the ship for repair at Harland and Wolff shipyard in Belfast. As a result, all sailings between Fishgiard - Rosslare are cancelled between now and 21 May. Repair work is being undertaken now ahead of the travel restrictions easing in the Republic Of Ireland. Further updates will follow"
Stena Europe is still in Fishguard
Quote from: Niall on May 17, 2021, 09:16:35 PM
Stena Europe is still in Fishguard
Just entering Belfast Lough now @ 18/05 08:20
Stena Estrid and Stena Horizon are set to resume their normal routes from next week as they are expecting travel restrictions to be removed soon and also I would guess they are expecting a big response to their "duty free booze cruises"which they are currently offering to UK passengers from as little as ?10 day return.
Estrid trying to dock in the storm this afternoon
https://twitter.com/stenaline/status/1395482913823670276
I wondered where Estrid was going when she steamed north from Rosslare earlier today. She is now close to Rosslare again this evening.
Europe is still in Belfast. I guess she will come back south tomorrow to be ready for crossings after the 21st.
Quote from: admin on May 20, 2021, 10:26:41 PM
Estrid trying to dock in the storm this afternoon
https://twitter.com/stenaline/status/1395482913823670276
Great footage!
Looks like Estrid is safely in Rosslare this morning.
Does anyone know if the new ferries on the Birkenhead route are drive on drive off or is it the same long delay and reversing etc to get off the car deck as the old boats??? I have tried searching for more info but can?t find a thing
They are drive on drive off. Edda and Embla berth stern in at Birkenhead and bow in at Belflast.
Quote from: ColinB on May 20, 2021, 11:12:38 PM
I wondered where Estrid was going when she steamed north from Rosslare earlier today. She is now close to Rosslare again this evening.
Europe is still in Belfast. I guess she will come back south tomorrow to be ready for crossings after the 21st.
Stena Line posted an update stating that repairs would not now be complete until Wednesday 26th May
Thanks for that. It explains why Europe is still in Belfast this morning.
Former Stena Lagan now Stena Scandica has been out on sea trials over the weekend.
Hopefully not long now until it enters service.
Update from Stena Line:
Unfortunately, due to ongoing repair work to the STENA EUROPE at dry-dock, it has been necessary to cancel further sailings up to and including all sailings on Thursday 3rd June.
Stena Line apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.
I have written this article on NI Ferry Site with the latest news on STENA EUROPE:
https://www.niferry.co.uk/fishguard-rosslare-service-suspended-for-repairs-to-stena-europe/
Stena Europe return to service may be delayed further, although still planned to leave Belfast at 23.00 on 3rd of June, it does not appear on freight timetable until 9th of June and then public booking timetable until 24th of June.
Hopefully will be back sooner.
Does anyone have any info about what's wrong with Stena Europe? It's a long time time to be out of service.
Image of the Europe posted on Stena Fanatics page on the Facebook.
Image posted by Colin Diesel Heater.
Area being worked on looks to be the inner bow door area, possibly waiting on parts to be produced before they can be fitted, though delay does seem to be dragging on.
Europe now scheduled to go into drydock at H&W on Saturday morning at 08.30.
First line in image below of planned vessel movements in Belfast harbour.
Doesn?t look like Europe has moved into dry dock. Still moored in the same place for a good number of days unless data is incorrect on position.
Quote from: ColinB on June 06, 2021, 09:04:21 PM
Doesn?t look like Europe has moved into dry dock. Still moored in the same place for a good number of days unless data is incorrect on position.
Correct, for some reason has not moved but has appeared several times on vessel movements list, Dublin Swift appears to be in the front of the drydock where you would expect the Europe to go.
On list again for 12.00 tomorrow
Stena Horizon filling in on Dublin - Holyhead tonight, instead of laying over in Rosslare as normal on a Monday night, the Stena Horizon is heading to Holyhead to take a Holyhead- Dublin- Holyhead sailing to allow the Stena Estrid to get some scheduled maintenance carried out.
Then returning back to Rosslare to take its sailing to Cherbourg tomorrow evening.
Stena Europe update - still not moved from position on ship repair quay at H&W Belfast.
Quote from: giftgrub on June 06, 2021, 11:14:45 PM
Quote from: ColinB on June 06, 2021, 09:04:21 PM
Doesn?t look like Europe has moved into dry dock. Still moored in the same place for a good number of days unless data is incorrect on position.
Correct, for some reason has not moved but has appeared several times on vessel movements list, Dublin Swift appears to be in the front of the drydock where you would expect the Europe to go.
On list again for 12.00 tomorrow
And Europe remains berthed in the same place and Dublin Swift is also in the same place. Things look to be delayed.
Quote from: ColinB on June 09, 2021, 05:04:12 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on June 06, 2021, 11:14:45 PM
Quote from: ColinB on June 06, 2021, 09:04:21 PM
Doesn?t look like Europe has moved into dry dock. Still moored in the same place for a good number of days unless data is incorrect on position.
Correct, for some reason has not moved but has appeared several times on vessel movements list, Dublin Swift appears to be in the front of the drydock where you would expect the Europe to go.
On list again for 12.00 tomorrow
And Europe remains berthed in the same place and Dublin Swift is also in the same place. Things look to be delayed.
Europe must be f**ked up badly. Let's hope they can fix her.
4 more weeks ....serious issues with the bow doors .....very hard to repair and new doors would have to made from scratch
The dry dock now appears to be empty, so let?s see if Europe is moved in.
Quote from: The insider on June 10, 2021, 11:17:09 AM
4 more weeks ....serious issues with the bow doors .....very hard to repair and new doors would have to made from scratch
I?m sure they could get a new set of doors from B & Q! 😂
They must be confident that the customer base will come back to them after such a long period with no service at all. They must also see no need to bring any kind of replacement in. Seems like they're handing the whole summer trade to Irish Ferries.
Quote from: Sil2 on June 10, 2021, 09:24:18 PM
They must be confident that the customer base will come back to them after such a long period with no service at all. They must also see no need to bring any kind of replacement in. Seems like they're handing the whole summer trade to Irish Ferries.
Its not that easy to secure any sort of cover given virtually everything that may be suitable for Fishguard is likely occupied at the moment. So, while as you say traffic is currently being handed to Irish Ferries, this is far from an ideal situation for Stena.
The current plan for STENA EUROPEs repairs does not involve dry docking.
Stena?s 1981-built ro-pax ferry SAGA ? the former STENA SAGA ? is being prepared to leave her layup berth in Uddevalla, Sweden on Wednesday 16 June. The 2,230-passenger and 1,032-lanemetre ferry will head for the Mediterranean where it is expected to take up a summer charter.
https://www.shippax.com/en/news/stenas-ro-pax-ferry-saga-ready-to-leave-sweden-for-the-med.aspx
She was reportedly being looked at by Corsica Ferries.
Quote from: hhvferry on June 11, 2021, 10:48:37 PM
She was reportedly being looked at by Corsica Ferries.
Will she get to Pireus first for maintaince before is enter service for Corsica?
Because Uddevalla Harbour says she going from Uddevalla to Pireus on 16.june
What is wrong with Stena Europe?? About time for Stena to invest in a new vessel or upgrade the linkspan at Fishguard for other vessels within their fleet to dock there. Is it just the linkspan that prevents most of Stena's vessels from docking there or is it something else.
Quote from: pdnr777 on June 13, 2021, 11:59:37 AM
What is wrong with Stena Europe?? About time for Stena to invest in a new vessel or upgrade the linkspan at Fishguard for other vessels within their fleet to dock there. Is it just the linkspan that prevents most of Stena's vessels from docking there or is it something else.
They were going to. It was forecast to cost ?5million. Why would you spend that amount of money on a route that isn't making money and with a long-term future which is far from certain?
Quote from: pdnr777 on June 13, 2021, 11:59:37 AM
What is wrong with Stena Europe?? About time for Stena to invest in a new vessel or upgrade the linkspan at Fishguard for other vessels within their fleet to dock there. Is it just the linkspan that prevents most of Stena's vessels from docking there or is it something else.
Europe to the best of our knowledge has experienced a bow door failure of some kind, one assumes the inner bow door has broken and given that it is of mature years and quite a complex multi fold door, parts are probably not available off the shelf as such. Fixing takes time.
As for Fishguard, the estimated cost of the redevelopment came in at 20 million Sterling, Stena had budgeted 5/6 million.
Details of the proposed revamp here
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/702122/Non_Technical_Summary.pdf
Hopefully Europe will be back in 10 days as still on booking system from June 24th.
More on Europe here
https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/business/19370775.stena-europe-due-back-fishguard-rosslare-route-june-24/
Also Europe has turned around on its berth in Belfast, either a sign of progress of maybe giving the paintwork a refresh.
Europe now not on timetable until June 29th - Still showing on freight timetable from 24th !!
Might be time to charter something like the Barfleur for cover !
Stena Scandica has been handed over by Sedef Shipyard and is due to leave for the Baltic sea soon.
Video Preview
https://youtu.be/IHigqMyXSlw
Europe has turned around again on the berth in Belfast, (Saturday morning).
Stena Scandica has finally left Turkey this morning, image of the finished ferry posted by Sedef on LinkedIn
Stena Baltica in the background
Given the length of time it was in the shipyard, amazing they did not get a chance to paint the top decks above the passenger accommodation !
Quote from: giftgrub on June 20, 2021, 02:21:12 PM
Stena Scandica has finally left Turkey this morning, image of the finished ferry posted by Sedef on LinkedIn
Stena Baltica in the background
Given the length of time it was in the shipyard, amazing they did not get a chance to paint the top decks above the passenger accommodation !
Yes they did as far as I can make out
Quote from: giftgrub on June 20, 2021, 02:21:12 PM
Given the length of time it was in the shipyard, amazing they did not get a chance to paint the top decks above the passenger accommodation !
That?s something the crew can do! Shipping companies aren?t really in the habit of paying shipyards for doing jobs crew can take care of themselves. Note that many of the pics released are actually of the vessel on trials during May too, including those directly from SEDEF AFAIK.
Some further info and pics here. I must say she looks much better than expected. From the preview pics I?ve seen she is very much in the same style of the E-Flexer?s inside (as you?d expect).
https://www.niferry.co.uk/former-stena-lagan-sets-sail-for-the-baltic/
Quote from: giftgrub on June 18, 2021, 01:48:16 PM
Europe now not on timetable until June 29th - Still showing on freight timetable from 24th !!
Might be time to charter something like the Barfleur for cover !
Well, Europe is still berthed in Belfast. She will need to get a wiggle on to be doing a freight run Fishguard-Rosslare today, the 24th.
Europe sailings are cancelled until at least the 30/06 according to today's timetable
https://www.stenalinefreight.com/timetable/ROFI/
Quote from: ferryfan on June 24, 2021, 11:57:39 AM
Europe sailings are cancelled until at least the 30/06 according to today's timetable
https://www.stenalinefreight.com/timetable/ROFI/
Still on timetable for Wednesday, could this be the return to service?
On Belfast Harbour system to depart on 28/06 @ 23.00 hrs
Alongside H&W Ship Repair Quay on Thursday night, image posted on the Facebook by Rob Wicks on Northern Ireland Shipping Facebook page
Europe is still in Belfast this morning (29th), so yesterday's scheduled departure last night at 2300 didn't happen. To be fair, it was only an estimated departure time.
Confirmed to depart this evening !!!!
Underway
Yep, with pilot boat Evans alongside.
And now, the pilot boat is returning to Belfast and Europe is on her way to Fishguard.
Europe just about to arrive back in Fishguard, back on service with the 13.00 sailing to Rosslare.
Europe has settled back into service on Rosslare Fishguard this week, spotted it will miss a round trip on Tuesday, marked as cancelled on timetable
A nice article on the Europe's return to service
https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/19420170.sten-europe-back-fishguard-rosslare-run-weeks-dry-dock/
Looking forward to checking out the enhancements when travel is permitted again !
Also off service to tomorrow, staying in Rosslare for Inspection according to Ferrycheck.
04/08 22:30 - Just had Rescue 117 fly over the house. Appears to be hovering over Stena Adventurer which has come down south of Greystones.
According the the Stena website, the 0215 Holyhead Adventurer departure was delayed due to a medical emergency, and the 0815 Dublin departure is an hour late.
Stena Vinga paying a visit to Rosslare today.
Stena Vinga is back on the route replacing Foreteller which has gone to Liverpool and who in turn replaced Seatruck Panorama which has gone back to Seatruck.
Returned from Ireland this friday from Rosslare, travelled on Stena Europe. Rosslare port had 3 Stena liveried ships in port at the time. Europe, Vinga and the Kerry. Is this a regular sight now to see 3 Stena ships in port at one time?? Is the Kerry still chartered to DFDS, couldn't remember
Quote from: pdnr777 on September 19, 2021, 05:46:21 PM
Returned from Ireland this friday from Rosslare, travelled on Stena Europe. Rosslare port had 3 Stena liveried ships in port at the time. Europe, Vinga and the Kerry. Is this a regular sight now to see 3 Stena ships in port at one time?? Is the Kerry still chartered to DFDS, couldn't remember
Kerry is on charter to DFDS.
Here's one of my pics from 28th September last year showing the 3 Stena ships Vinga, Horizon and Europe in Rosslare
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50410883043_a0723531f2_b.jpg)
Was on the Europe on Friday as well on the afternoon crossing from Fishguard, Kerry and Vinga were in Rosslare on arrival.
On the trip out watching the tugs remove trailers from the top deck of the Vinga is like watching a storage version of Tetris as they manoeuvre the trailers to get down the ramp.
A great feeling to be back to some normality and a wonderful feeling to be sitting in the Plus lounge again on the Europe after its facelift/ COVID delays, the onboard upgrades are very subtle but it's in great condition and the staff are as always a pleasure to deal with.
Only negative on the Europe now would be the toilets (gents)on deck 8 which are grim.(Nordica was not any better two years ago)
The whole vessel has received a nice update and the outside deck spaces are fantastic, new handrails and perfect paintwork all round, when we docked in Fishguard on the Friday night before, the Europe was too high in the water to use the side ramp and for the first time (in my experience)we came off from deck five out the bow door, never knew there was so much space on the ferry.
Also noted in Fishguard the coffee dock (after check in)is gone and there is a huge sign for Border Shop by R&F Retail which is probably going into the building as it would be ideal use of space but they will need to bring cars through earlier to maximise the buying time.
If you have any time off from work left take a few days in Wales and get a break from the last two years, checked out St David's, Solva, Marloes, Dale, Tenby and some retail therapy in Bridgend and that's not to mention the Duty Free !!
Stena Ro/RO's M/F Sassnitz is currently en route to Lisbon (posssibly to a shipyard) she had been running between Sweden and Germany until the route closed last year. If you haven't seen the ship she has a very unusual visor arrangement on her bow doors.
What would be a replacement for Stena Europe on the Fishguard Rosslare route if Stena were going to invest in the route with a new ship or would it be that the port would be upgraded to receive a ship in the current fleet that replaces the Europe on the route??
Quote from: pdnr777 on October 02, 2021, 10:24:36 AM
What would be a replacement for Stena Europe on the Fishguard Rosslare route if Stena were going to invest in the route with a new ship or would it be that the port would be upgraded to receive a ship in the current fleet that replaces the Europe on the route??
More than likely Stena Nordica would be the replacement for Stena Europe (unlikely to happen anytime soon given the money invested in Europe over last few years) Nordica would require some modifications to passenger accommodation to allow for peak traffic, Duty Free shop and crew accommodation.
Been on the Stena Europe last weekend. Usually go on The Isle of Inishmore. Missed going up and down the estuary to Pembroke docks.
The Europe was okay. Loved the duty free.
There were not many passengers on the Europe and disembarking was quick.
Saw the Blue Star 1 at Rosslare. Want a trip on that!.
Stena Europe heading to Central corridor next week to replace Estrid which is presumably going to Drydock, Vinga covering Europe's sailings.
It's been a few years since Europe was last in Dublin.
Quote from: ferryfan on October 19, 2021, 12:47:21 PM
It's been a few years since Europe was last in Dublin.
She was on Dublin-Holyhead route earlier this year. When Stena Estrid was on Rosslare-Cherbourg.
Quote from: boathansm on October 19, 2021, 08:07:15 PM
Quote from: ferryfan on October 19, 2021, 12:47:21 PM
It's been a few years since Europe was last in Dublin.
She was on Dublin-Holyhead route earlier this year. When Stena Estrid was on Rosslare-Cherbourg.
Of course I completely forgot about that.
Looks like the weather is affecting the Stena Europe's return to the Central Corridor in place of the Estrid
Reports that the former Stena Cambria (ex St Anselm) together with her old running mate Stena Hibernia (ex Columbia) are on their way to the breakers at Alang India. Two fantastic ships which I traveled on countless times during the 1990's.
Quote from: ferryfan on October 27, 2021, 12:54:11 PM
Reports that the former Stena Cambria (ex St Anselm) together with her old running mate Stena Hibernia (ex Columbia) are on their way to the breakers at Alang India. Two fantastic ships which I traveled on countless times during the 1990's.
Article here on NI Ferry Scene about this https://www.niferry.co.uk/former-dun-laoghaire-and-swansea-cork-ferries-bound-for-demolition/ (https://www.niferry.co.uk/former-dun-laoghaire-and-swansea-cork-ferries-bound-for-demolition/)
Also mentions that Swansea Cork vessel Superferry also going to the breakers.
Quote from: ferryfan on October 27, 2021, 12:54:11 PM
Reports that the former Stena Cambria (ex St Anselm) together with her old running mate Stena Hibernia (ex Columbia) are on their way to the breakers at Alang India. Two fantastic ships which I traveled on countless times during the 1990's.
Destination of Altair is now Murmagao in southern India.
Europe not having a great run on Dublin Holyhead this week, would imagine combination of the weather and no double deck loading that suits Europe in Dublin port combining to make life difficult.
Also does not seem to go over 17 knots on crossings which limits ability to make up time.
A sailing cancellation tonight to allow it to bring schedule back on time.
Europe back on Rosslare - Fishguard route and Vinga holed up in Rosslare.
And now Vinga is back on the Rosslare to Cherbourg route.
Quote from: Niall on October 27, 2021, 10:52:42 PM
Quote from: ferryfan on October 27, 2021, 12:54:11 PM
Reports that the former Stena Cambria (ex St Anselm) together with her old running mate Stena Hibernia (ex Columbia) are on their way to the breakers at Alang India. Two fantastic ships which I traveled on countless times during the 1990's.
Destination of Altair is now Murmagao in southern India.
Altair now appears to be anchored off Sri Lanka, Whilst Masarrah remains on the Red Sea, seemingly still operational.
The Stena Europe has been carrying Irish Ferries traffic this week as the Blue Star 1 has gone for repair.
Stena Europe was running 5 hrs late yesterday is now 9 hrs late. They have cancelled this evenings rotation from Rosslare in order to get back on schedule.
Don't think Europe skipped a sailing, way too busy for that, practically impossible for it to keep to time this week as average turnaround has been 3 hours+ combined with seemingly an inability to sail above 17 knots, there has been a noticeable increase in speed today, going over 20 knots this morning.
One thing obvious is that current timetable aside from early morning arrival in Rosslare does not allow for long turnaround but if there are delays you need the higher speed to make time back.
Bluestar 1 currently expecting to leave Belfast on 23rd, so a few more days of busy sailings ahead.
Europe has spent today in Rosslare with Technical issue, Vinga covers tonight's sailing
Altair ex Stena Cambria on her final journey heading to the breakers in Chittagong, Bangladesh while old running mate Masarrah ex Hibernia, st. Columba is anchored off the coast of the UAE (believed destined for the breakers soon)
Europe appears to be 'chasing' the timetable on the Fishguard route over the past few days. Many delays due to technical problems. Now, there are a couple of early sailings ahead of the time table and it looks like no sailings on Friday because of weather. Not the best week for this route.
No sailing to Fishguard today for Europe because of weather but she appears to have left Rosslare and is heading south and now west. Perhaps freeing up berths in Rosslare and seeking shelter from the northerly winds and bad weather?
Europe is on one of its legendary cruises, this time off the coast of Tramore, no passengers this time as it takes shelter from the storm. Safer at sea than alongside in Rosslare.
A fair few ships unable to dock because of the storm. At 9am this morning Europe is still off the Waterford coast. Estrid and Ulysses sheltering south of Angelsea. Connemara off the Wexford coast. Cotentin and Horizon west of Lands End and Epsilon wisely sheltering off Falmouth. Looks like the full force of the storm went straight down the Irish sea.
The former St Coumba (Stena Hibernia) has finally being beached at Gadani ship breakers
https://www.instagram.com/p/CW9_sJFtx-N/
Is it me or does Stena Europe operate at a lower average speed on its journeys between Rosslare and Fishguard than other Stena line ships from Rosslare. Europe seems to track between 16 and 18 kns and others 20+.
Europe can cope under normal conditions at these speeds, which are obviously optimised for fuel efficiency and timetable, turnaround times helped by twin level loading in Fishguard, however as seen last month with additional traffic (with Irish Ferries off) for some reason was not able to speed up to maintain schedule or make time !
Current timetable does not have much room during daytime sailings in Fishguard and Rosslare if something goes wrong.
With Storm Barra due to hit the south of Ireland tomorrow there have been a number of cancellations on the Rosslare Wales routes. Stena Europe is currently on the way to Fishguard. Her next 2 round trips have been cancelled and shes due to sail again for Rosslare at 23.45 tomorrow night. Blue Star 1 is due to arrive in Rosslare at 6.45 tomorrow and will miss 2 round trips until she resumes her usual pattern on Wednesday with the 845 departure to Pembroke
Adventurer has had a day to forget, off Holyhead since 06.00 am and now nearly 22.00, still unable to dock, Ulysses is also with Adventurer with same issues. Estrid about to arrive on scene.
Stena Vinga going Home Next week, Sea Truck Panorama taking over her run for 12 Months
Stena Vinga will enter Karlskrona - Gdynia from 02.jan.22
I see the that Stena Estrid and Stena Adverturer has swap schedules.
Stena Baltica is on the way to Gdańsk having completed reconstruction in Turkey. Just passing the south coast of Portugal this morning.
The former Stena Mersey will join the Stena Scandica (former Stena Lagan) in service in January on the Baltic Sea replacing the Stena Flavia.
Short video of the finished vessel here:
https://youtu.be/ZguHwTag-vg
Video of Conversion:
https://youtu.be/hAQq-2D0Jcw
Much More information here
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-2022-fleet-moves-part-2-baltic-and-scandinavia/amp/
Stena Europe sailings cancelled Jan 5th/10th for linkspan maintenance in Fishguard.
Still find it hard to understand how the bill for replacing the linkspan was so high.
Also unofficial but Stena Europe is expected to be permanently replaced on the Fishguard route in September by the Stena Nordica.
Stena Europe has been linked with being transferred to the Grenaa service to operate alongside the Stena Nautica
I think she would need a fair amount spending on her for the ship to fix her up if she were to operate acceptably in Stena's home market.
Best I think can be hoped for is a sale for further service. More likely for scrap as it stands.
Quote from: hhvferry on January 02, 2022, 07:57:50 PM
I think she would need a fair amount spending on her for the ship to fix her up if she were to operate acceptably in Stena's home market.
Best I think can be hoped for is a sale for further service. More likely for scrap as it stands.
Sadly you're probably right :(
Quote from: hhvferry on January 02, 2022, 07:57:50 PM
I think she would need a fair amount spending on her for the ship to fix her up if she were to operate acceptably in Stena's home market.
Best I think can be hoped for is a sale for further service. More likely for scrap as it stands.
But what about the huge investment made by Stena in Europe a couple of years ago she had a massive refit and a huge maintenance programme was carried out,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-u7KKQoq88
Quote from: ferryfan on January 03, 2022, 12:10:36 PM
Quote from: hhvferry on January 02, 2022, 07:57:50 PM
I think she would need a fair amount spending on her for the ship to fix her up if she were to operate acceptably in Stena's home market.
Best I think can be hoped for is a sale for further service. More likely for scrap as it stands.
But what about the huge investment made by Stena in Europe a couple of years ago she had a massive refit and a huge maintenance programme was carried out,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-u7KKQoq88
Impossible to know the future, but reliability has taken a turn for the worse over the last few years, with regular cancellations surely having a negative impact on the route and enforced absence last year with the bow door/ ramp issues possibly forcing the decision to be made.
The other thing to keep in mind is no matter how much is invested in her, eventually, the economics of keeping her running will make it financially unviable to continue sinking money into her, when a new build will cost less to operate. Eventually, her age will come against her.
A bit like Stena Carisma
Quote from: ferryfan on January 03, 2022, 12:10:36 PM
Quote from: hhvferry on January 02, 2022, 07:57:50 PM
I think she would need a fair amount spending on her for the ship to fix her up if she were to operate acceptably in Stena's home market.
Best I think can be hoped for is a sale for further service. More likely for scrap as it stands.
But what about the huge investment made by Stena in Europe a couple of years ago she had a massive refit and a huge maintenance programme was carried out,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-u7KKQoq88
Her reliability record since suggests it didn't prolong her life as much as was hoped. It did get her another couple of (problematic) years though.
She's not in a great state inside either tbh and could do with money spent there. It's surely hard to justify further investment in an elderly asset on borrowed time. I imagine she's not the most fuel efficient thing in the world and certainly wouldn't fit with Stena's environmental message going forward! To run in Scandinavia she's have to burn ultra low sulphur oil (rather than low sulphur) which could also be very problematic for those elderly engines.
Stena Europe returned to service today with the lunchtime crossing from Fishguard to Rosslare, hopefully work on the linkspan was successful.
Details on the 2022 Irish Sea fleet refits is available here
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-2022-fleet-moves-part-3-irish-sea/amp/
Also expected that Estrid will provide cover for Horizon refit, with Nordica covering Estrid on Dublin route.
Stena Europe running behind schedule today, technical issues to blame according to ferry check.
Also a fantastic review of vessels in Harland & Wolff for drydock by Scott Mackey on NI Ferry has started this week, featuring plenty of the Stena Line Irish Sea fleet.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/photo-feature-ferries-in-dry-dock-part-1-of-4/amp/
Stena Line Irish Sea refits and drydockings are about to start this month which will the Nordica returning to the Irish Sea and plenty of changes as vessels go to drydock.
A comprehensive guide to the refit schedule is here
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-irish-sea-2022-refit-plans-updated/amp/
Also nice video of Stena Baltica arriving in Gdańsk at the start of January from its rebuilding in Turkey.
https://youtu.be/VgjFyw_WUcc
Stena Europe replacement rumours have been denied by Stena Line according to this article in the Wexford People today, similar to denial in Western Telegraph last week, while Nordica does have smaller passenger capacity, has 800 more lane meters 2000 v 1,200, and much more power 40,000 kw v 15,500 kw if run in full power mode to give two Top Trumps style comparisons.
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/kronprinsessan_victoria_1981.htm
http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/european_ambassador_2000.htm
Plenty of applications for Stena Line job recruitment
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/stena-line-astonished-by-volume-of-applicants-for-new-irish-sea-crossing-jobs-41338851.html
Nordica is on the way to the Irish Sea, Stena Lines Irish Sea refit/ drydock program is about to start.
Nordica looks to be taking the Northern route across the top of Scotland, rather than the more congested route through the English Channel.
Stena Nordica approaching Dublin and due to take up the 14:45 crossing with Adventurer reverting to her original timetable from the 20:30 crossing tonight.
....Just like old times!
Interesting video tour of Nordica from this week's return to service on the Irish Sea. Captured during Storm Dudley.
https://youtu.be/I6vcaEHkXEQ
Niferry are also due to publish a travelogue on the Nordica very soon.
Rumours indicate that the outside deck space on Deck Six may be converted to a passenger lounge if it's return to the Irish Sea is confirmed, with possibly more outside deck space created above.
The Nordica has been spruced up since it's last visit in 2019, however one would imagine the toilets on deck 4 still require attention !! (They were grim in 2019)
Here is Niferry look at the Nordica on its return to the Irish Sea for refit cover this year.
Due in Rosslare soon.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/a-look-inside-stena-lines-irish-sea-refit-cover-ship-stena-nordica/?amp
Interesting video of the North Sea giants Britannica and Hollandica as they visit the drydock in Antwerp.
https://youtu.be/CT4daRKJTCE
https://youtu.be/0GmmbpaOKYc
https://youtu.be/_-iWVWXgUU4
https://youtu.be/keIDURooddA
Images posted on the faceboook today show the jack up rig (which is part of the Fishguard linkspan) partially submerged. it was due to be moved back into position having been refurbished since it was moved in early Jan (when Europe sailings were cancelled), something has obviously gone wrong.
If the rig is not in position the Nordica will not fit the berth in Fishguard which will mean sailings will be cancelled, Nordica is too wide and the bow doors do not match up with the linkspan.
Europe can use the berth without the rig but the side loading ramp does not fit, slowing down loading.
Fishguard is crying out for a new Linkspan this just proves it. think this might be make or break for the port the route has changed so much from when the Felicity replaced the St Brendan
Quote from: drew22b on February 25, 2022, 12:28:06 AM
Fishguard is crying out for a new Linkspan this just proves it. think this might be make or break for the port the route has changed so much from when the Felicity replaced the St Brendan
This could be the straw that broke the camels back or the kick up the backside that the port needs, having seen the image it looks like the rig could be lifted upright and restored to its proper position with the correct cranes, relatively easily.
The proposal for replacement of the linkspan was quite detailed and the quotations for the job in 2019 were around 12 million of the Queens Pounds, more details on link below and tender at the end. This was completely at odds with costs at the time for the new Cairnryan port which I think the linkspan came in at 13 million out of the total investment the new port in 2010/11.
https://www.irish-ferries-enthusiasts.com/forum/index.php?topic=1212.45
https://afloat.ie/port-news/irish-marinas/belfast-harbour-marina/itemlist/tag/Loch%20Ryan%20Port%20Cairnryan
https://www.quinnpiling.com/projects/179-loch-ryan-port-development
https://www.mclh.co.uk/our-projects/loch-ryan-terminal-port-development-cairnryan/
Quote from: giftgrub on February 25, 2022, 08:27:29 PM
Quote from: drew22b on February 25, 2022, 12:28:06 AM
Fishguard is crying out for a new Linkspan this just proves it. think this might be make or break for the port the route has changed so much from when the Felicity replaced the St Brendan
This could be the straw that broke the camels back or the kick up the backside that the port needs, having seen the image it looks like the rig could be lifted upright and restored to its proper position with the correct cranes, relatively easily.
The proposal for replacement of the linkspan was quite detailed and the quotations for the job in 2019 were around 12 million of the Queens Pounds, more details on link below and tender at the end. This was completely at odds with costs at the time for the new Cairnryan port which I think the linkspan came in at 13 million out of the total investment the new port in 2010/11.
https://www.irish-ferries-enthusiasts.com/forum/index.php?topic=1212.45
https://afloat.ie/port-news/irish-marinas/belfast-harbour-marina/itemlist/tag/Loch%20Ryan%20Port%20Cairnryan
https://www.quinnpiling.com/projects/179-loch-ryan-port-development
https://www.mclh.co.uk/our-projects/loch-ryan-terminal-port-development-cairnryan/
Loch Ryan Port also has TTS auto mooring installed wich might have been grouped in with the cost of the linkspan. The Port of Cairnryan (P&O) had its old linkspan replaced with a a TTS linkspan in 2015 at a cost of £13m including land reclimation. Aso of note was the most of the work was carried out with no shutdown to the port, with the berth only being unavailable for 48hrs.
https://www.mclh.co.uk/our-projects/cairnryan-berth-1-linkspan-replacement/
Stena will not opperate the Nordica as refit cover for the Europe due to the loss of the jack-up adapter. This evenings sailing will see passengers transfered to Irish Ferries service from Pembrooke, no announcement have been made about all other sailings.
Any photos of the jackup adapter?
Here is an image of the jack-up when connected to the linkspan.
(https://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/06/12/10/6121054_bebebf2f.jpg)
And here is one with the Nordica berthed.
(https://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/06/12/10/6121052_daf99a69.jpg)
Notice how the Nordica's ramp is lying on the middle of the jack-up, where as the width of linkspan is only half that of the jack-up.
Also the Nordica is heading down to Fishguard now with an ETA of 1430 UTC, though I suspect she is only laying up at the port until she returns to Holyhead to cover the Adventure's drydocking at Cammel Lairds.
Nordica going to Rosslare to cover for Seatruck Panorama, possibly getting some TLC and maybe Stena Branded Funnel ?
Appears that she will also opperate with tourist passengers, but it could be a oddity with Stena Frieght Time Table.
stena upgraded all there Irish routes, ports and ships apart from Fishguard. Fishguard has had loads of different Ideas put forward and not one has come to anything they take the cheap option like with the jack up rig in the first place. Im not bashing the stena europe shes a lovely vessel but isent it about time she was let retire gracefully and not run into the ground, now might be the best time to look at everything with Irish ferries main focus on Dover and duty free coming back
i was on stena europe and took a video on her arrival 23/02/22....and the jack up adaptor was half submerged and loosly cordned off...https://youtu.be/BXesDOk34eA
Quote from: 12345teacher on February 27, 2022, 08:59:20 PM
i was on stena europe and took a video on her arrival 23/02/22....and the jack up adaptor was half submerged and loosly cordned off...https://youtu.be/BXesDOk34eA
Thanks for posting link, great images, hope you had a nice crossing. Couple of big cranes should be able to sort that out, hopefully!
What happened to the footie gangway?
was good crossing ...an hour delayed due to europe taking all of irish ferries freight/cars/passangers ...captain announced that blue star 1 had an inicident upon arrival in rosslare on evening of 22/2/22 and blue star 1 sailings were canceled on 23/2/22....blue star 1 is stern in at rosslare when i took this video of europe departing rosslare...https://youtu.be/9FnvhEEzmow
the footie gangway has been gone for a while from picture I have seen in the past it needed a crane to lift it on and off aswell
Stena didn't fork out much money on the linkspan and footie gangway I must say
Some fantastic images of Europe in drydock on the link below, scroll to end of the page.
https://frenchferryfans.boards.net/thread/19/stena-europe-imo-7901760
the last big upgrades at Fishguard was before the seacat arrived and I think most of that was paid for with an EU grant
Stena Adventurer has been swapped out at Holyhead, and is now in dry dock at Birkenhead. Looks like Estrid has taken over that slot, with Nordica taking what should be the Estrid slot. Caused a delay of about 90 minutes to the 20:30 Tuesday sailing from Holyhead, as Nordica was put in to that slot after Estrid had offloaded.
Stena Europe is floating again and ready to leave the drydock in Falmouth.
Images of its newly refurbished exterior paintwork on link below. Scroll to the end.
https://theferryforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=138&start=25
Images of Europe leaving drydock from Falmouth webcam.
https://falmouthhaven.co.uk/falmouth-quay-webcam/
Picture posted on the Facebook by Stephen Corish of the Stena Europe's arrival into Rosslare this afternoon on its first visit after refit, the golden oldie is looking good.
Some fantastic images of Stena Adventurer in drydock here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/frisia_bonn/51944784355/
Click right from first image
Looks like it will be getting the new font on the "Connecting Europe" branding
Quote from: giftgrub on March 19, 2022, 10:42:33 AM
Some fantastic images of Stena Adventurer in drydock here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/frisia_bonn/51944784355/
Click right from first image
Looks like it will be getting the new font on the "Connecting Europe" branding
Some great pics there!
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-adds-third-ship-to-cairnryan-route-in-response-to-po-crisis/
Wow, Dublin Holyhead down to one ship for Stena for at least a week
Estrid due into Rosslare to replace Horizon for refit on Tuesday according to freight timetable. Adventurer due back on Tuesday.
Will Stena definitely have 2 ships back on the Dublin Holyhead route next week? Mad that they only had the one ship on the route.
Stena Adventurer has been refloated in drydock today, looks very impressive with its new paintwork
https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-posted-desc&text=Stena%20Adventurer
Click right from first image
Thanks, should get on the Adventurer in a few days once it's back.
All change on the central corridor Stena, The Adventurer is back in service, Estrid on way to Rosslare to cover for Horizon which has gone to Belfast for drydock.
Quote from: giftgrub on March 29, 2022, 06:44:21 AM
All change on the central corridor Stena, The Adventurer is back in service, Estrid on way to Rosslare to cover for Horizon which has gone to Belfast for drydock.
And Stena Europe heading for Dublin-Holyhead tomorrow.
Quote from: boathansm on March 30, 2022, 06:57:23 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on March 29, 2022, 06:44:21 AM
All change on the central corridor Stena, The Adventurer is back in service, Estrid on way to Rosslare to cover for Horizon which has gone to Belfast for drydock.
And Stena Europe heading for Dublin-Holyhead tomorrow.
Thanks for the info, Hard to keep up with the changes at the moment.
Any one have any update on the jack up rig in Fishguard?
Quote from: giftgrub on March 30, 2022, 07:12:09 PM
Quote from: boathansm on March 30, 2022, 06:57:23 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on March 29, 2022, 06:44:21 AM
All change on the central corridor Stena, The Adventurer is back in service, Estrid on way to Rosslare to cover for Horizon which has gone to Belfast for drydock.
And Stena Europe heading for Dublin-Holyhead tomorrow.
Thanks for the info, Hard to keep up with the changes at the moment.
Any one have any update on the jack up rig in Fishguard?
The Nordica is currently helping out on the Belfast-Cairnryan route as a third vessel. I guess Stena have taken the decision to retoute the Europe's traffic with Irish Ferries as the demand is greater at Belfast given the route is coping with the traffic of 4 vessels.
Quote from: shipbiulder101 on March 30, 2022, 08:28:57 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on March 30, 2022, 07:12:09 PM
Quote from: boathansm on March 30, 2022, 06:57:23 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on March 29, 2022, 06:44:21 AM
All change on the central corridor Stena, The Adventurer is back in service, Estrid on way to Rosslare to cover for Horizon which has gone to Belfast for drydock.
And Stena Europe heading for Dublin-Holyhead tomorrow.
Thanks for the info, Hard to keep up with the changes at the moment.
Any one have any update on the jack up rig in Fishguard?
The Nordica is currently helping out on the Belfast-Cairnryan route as a third vessel. I guess Stena have taken the decision to retoute the Europe's traffic with Irish Ferries as the demand is greater at Belfast given the route is coping with the traffic of 4 vessels.
100%, with Nordica running on the North channel alongside Superfast VII and VIII they can probably fill the Europe as second ship on Dublin Holyhead taking the Estrids roster (Estrid covering for Horizon) alongside Adventurer.
Interesting times and plenty of variety for all the crews.
Could we have the largest number of Stena vessels using Belfast at the moment
Horizon and Forecaster in drydock
Superfast VII & VIII and Nordica to Cairnryan
Edda, Embla & Foreteller to Birkenhead
Scotia & Hibernia to Heysham
Total of 10 vessels using the port, 8 sailing and 2 for refit.
Is Stena Europe having engine problems again? She's was cancelled for weather reasons wed/thurs and is not keeping time generally, cruising at 16-17 knots.
Quote from: giftgrub on April 04, 2022, 08:30:27 PM
Could we have the largest number of Stena vessels using Belfast at the moment
Horizon and Forecaster in drydock
Superfast VII & VIII and Nordica to Cairnryan
Edda, Embla & Foreteller to Birkenhead
Scotia & Hibernia to Heysham
Total of 10 vessels using the port, 8 sailing and 2 for refit.
Probably not the only ever time..
Early 2012..
Superfast VII and VIII on the Loch Ryan run,
Navigator and Caledonia Lay-up pending sale,
Lagan and Mersey on the Birkenhead Run,
Hibernia and Scotia on Heysham,
Voyager Laid up at her berth,
Explorer due in for refit (Although admittedly this may have been after Navigator left in February).
Any others? possibly other re-fits at H&W?
Quote from: Davy Jones on April 08, 2022, 01:12:19 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on April 04, 2022, 08:30:27 PM
Could we have the largest number of Stena vessels using Belfast at the moment
Horizon and Forecaster in drydock
Superfast VII & VIII and Nordica to Cairnryan
Edda, Embla & Foreteller to Birkenhead
Scotia & Hibernia to Heysham
Total of 10 vessels using the port, 8 sailing and 2 for refit.
Probably not the only ever time..
Early 2012..
Superfast VII and VIII on the Loch Ryan run,
Navigator and Caledonia Lay-up pending sale,
Lagan and Mersey on the Birkenhead Run,
Hibernia and Scotia on Heysham,
Voyager Laid up at her berth,
Explorer due in for refit (Although admittedly this may have been after Navigator left in February).
Any others? possibly other re-fits at H&W?
Your right, forgot about that time period
Interesting news today the extended E Flexers are not going to their original route of Nynashamn - Ventspils, they are going to Karlskrona - Gdynia, which means the Spirit , Vison and Nordica are being replaced by two vessels.
https://news.cision.com/stena-line/r/stena-line-deploys-e-flexers-on-karlskrona-gdynia-route,c3542644?fbclid=IwAR2A3iajnKixtc8yWyaQJ0oJAyJ5998E7w50Ruq4SMfJgbKKLilITmzHRU8
So is this the end for the Spirit and Vision with Stena and will the Nordica be redeployed to the Irish Sea after the Eflexers arrive ?
Quote from: giftgrub on April 08, 2022, 01:57:58 PM
Interesting news today the extended E Flexers are not going to their original route of Nynashamn - Ventspils, they are going to Karlskrona - Gdynia, which means the Spirit , Vison and Nordica are being replaced by two vessels.
https://news.cision.com/stena-line/r/stena-line-deploys-e-flexers-on-karlskrona-gdynia-route,c3542644?fbclid=IwAR2A3iajnKixtc8yWyaQJ0oJAyJ5998E7w50Ruq4SMfJgbKKLilITmzHRU8
So is this the end for the Spirit and Vision with Stena and will the Nordica be redeployed to the Irish Sea after the Eflexers arrive ?
Replace Stena Nordica and Stena Vinga has been said?
Quote from: giftgrub on April 08, 2022, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: Davy Jones on April 08, 2022, 01:12:19 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on April 04, 2022, 08:30:27 PM
Could we have the largest number of Stena vessels using Belfast at the moment
Horizon and Forecaster in drydock
Superfast VII & VIII and Nordica to Cairnryan
Edda, Embla & Foreteller to Birkenhead
Scotia & Hibernia to Heysham
Total of 10 vessels using the port, 8 sailing and 2 for refit.
Probably not the only ever time..
Early 2012..
Superfast VII and VIII on the Loch Ryan run,
Navigator and Caledonia Lay-up pending sale,
Lagan and Mersey on the Birkenhead Run,
Hibernia and Scotia on Heysham,
Voyager Laid up at her berth,
Explorer due in for refit (Although admittedly this may have been after Navigator left in February).
Any others? possibly other re-fits at H&W?
Your right, forgot about that time period
HSC Discovery laid up in H&W
I thought of that as well, but on checking, she left for Venezuela in September 2009.
I have always thought it was Stena's greatest missed opportunity to have a photoshoot of the three HSS1500 vessels running together outside Belfast. There were a couple of occasions when the three craft were in port together.
Reports that Horizon return to service is going to be delayed
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/stena-line-livestock-sailings-cancelled-for-another-12-days/
This will have a knock on effect as Estrid will remain on France route and unless Nordica returns to central corridor Europe will miss the Easter period in Fishguard.
Quote from: giftgrub on April 08, 2022, 08:44:08 PM
Reports that Horizon return to service is going to be delayed
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/stena-line-livestock-sailings-cancelled-for-another-12-days/
This will have a knock on effect as Estrid will remain on France route and unless Nordica returns to central corridor Europe will miss the Easter period in Fishguard.
Stena freight timetable says Stena Nordica until sunday 17.april on Belfast-Cairnryan
Quote from: boathansm on April 08, 2022, 10:10:04 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on April 08, 2022, 08:44:08 PM
Reports that Horizon return to service is going to be delayed
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/stena-line-livestock-sailings-cancelled-for-another-12-days/
This will have a knock on effect as Estrid will remain on France route and unless Nordica returns to central corridor Europe will miss the Easter period in Fishguard.
Stena freight timetable says Stena Nordica until sunday 17.april on Belfast-Cairnryan
Probably right then as the European Causeway has resumed sailings today with trailers only and plans to take accompanied frieght early next week.
All change this week on Rosslare Cherbourg, Estrid replacing Europe on Dublin Holyhead and no passenger sailings to Cherbourg, while Rosslare Fishguard sailings return.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-temporary-fleet-adjustments-to-cairnryan-and-cherbourg-routes/?amp
The Adventurer looking better after a paint job, however the Europe is really tired looking and was not able to to complete sailing from Holyhead to Dublin on time.
Estrid is back in Holyhead this evening and Europe is on the way back to Rosslare to return to service with tomorrow morning's sailing to Fishguard. Hopefully last disturbance on the route this year.
No passenger sailings to Cherbourg until Horizon returns on the 19th.
Images on the Facebook shoe several cranes in Fishguard attempting to move the jack up rig from its sunken position, hopefully they can bring it up and get it working again.
Horizon not showing on timetable until 26th, drydock possibly extended, hopefully will be back sooner
Horizon sailings now cancelled until 28th.
Images on LinkedIn today show the starboard side propeller shaft being removed.
No Adventurer sailing this morning she is currently moored in Alexandra Basin. Any info?
Quote from: ferryfan on April 25, 2022, 12:37:54 PM
No Adventurer sailing this morning she is currently moored in Alexandra Basin. Any info?
Apparently a drill/inspection for Adventurer.
Nordica has finished on North channel, currently on the way back to Karlskrona.
Horizon return to service delayed, Forecaster will be doing a stint at the weekend
Horizon has moved into the Building drydock at H&W to finish its drydock period.
Forecaster covering for the week
Europe missing a round trip today for essential maintenance
Berthed bow in Rosslare
Europe showing a burst of speed tonight, hit 21.3 knots tonight, hopefully all goes smoothly this week with Europe covering Blue Star 1 sailings also.
Horizon delayed further, now not due back until 10th of May
Further delays for Horizon, now cancelled until May 12th, refit cover has left this route badly exposed, the P&O debacle did not help, but would imagine that the Nordica going home last week has compounded the problems.
Forecaster heading to Zeebrugge, finished service on the Rosslare Cherbourg route, Horizon not due back until Thursday, another bad week for Stena on the route to France.
Forecaster got Stena branding applied to the funnels in the last few days so probably going to see further service in the Stena Line network
Images on link below
https://theferryforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=334
Forecaster has stopped, just off the coast by the Lizard (near Falmouth) for some reason.
Horizon has left the building dock and looks to be leaving Belfast at long last, next stop Rosslare hopefully !!
Quote from: giftgrub on May 11, 2022, 06:48:50 PM
Horizon has left the building dock and looks to be leaving Belfast at long last, next stop Rosslare hopefully !!
Seems to on the freight schedule for tomorrow, but you can't make a public booking until 17/05.
Stena Forecaster has leave Zeebrugge. Destinaton: Mostganem
Quote from: boathansm on May 14, 2022, 02:50:14 AM
Stena Forecaster has leave Zeebrugge. Destinaton: Mostganem
https://pianetanavi.altervista.org/cma-cgm-noleggia-stena-forecaster/
Stena Europe staying in Rosslare tomorrow as its misses a round trip for "Operational Reasons".
Image of the Fishguard jack up rig, now tied back up alongside the quay, seen yesterday in Fishguard, Europe is using an extra fender when berthing to move the bow onto the ramp. Hopefully they get this fixed and back in place soon which will allow the twin level loading to return.
Just back from a lovely week in the UK and the Europe was nearly full on the return to Ireland yesterday, deck 5 was full both deck 6 mezzanine were full of cars and plenty of traffic on deck 3 as well, haven't seen so many people on board since a crossing in 2008 when the Lynx was cancelled and it sailed fully loaded.
On the outbound crossing some maintenance taking place as carpets were being replaced on deck 8 behind the Plus lounge and on the stairs. On the return some of the outside decks have been repainted during the week.
The Europe is still in great condition and if the Nordica was on yesterday it would have been sold out twice in my rough calculation of the passengers on board.
One gripe is the toilets on deck 8 are still in need of a refurbishment, one of the few areas to have not seen much improvement over the years.
Also the border shop is open in Fishguard once you go through security and has some fantastic value for alcohol if anyone is interested, for example case of Orchard Thieves (24 cans)was 10 pounds, a bottle of Absolute (1litre)was 7 pounds and plenty of other great deals.
Good potted report there GG. Thanks! We need more of these on our Irish Sea Vessels.
Is there anything I can do to view the pictures in their entirity? after expanding the thumbnail, I can only view about 1/6th of the photo and have to pan around to see the rest of the detail. it's sort of too big if you know what I mean.
What's the story with the footie gangway?
Quote from: Niall on May 29, 2022, 09:25:21 PM
What's the story with the footie gangway?
Footie gangway is gone, foot passengers now load through the side loading door a short walk on the ramp and they are onto the vessel on deck 5 (at least they will when it's back in action) assume they are bussed on at the moment.
Davy - no idea how to make images smaller, but think you can save to your device and view in photo albums if that helps, only phone images not sure why they are so big.
Why was the footie gangway removed?
Have all the linkspan problems been rectified at Fishguard. After seeing what the Isle of Man Steam Packet are having their new ferry built, would Stena have a new ferry built purely for the Fishguard route or is it after the loss of traffic freight wise/blamed on Brexit would they discontinue the route once the Europe is no longer economically viable to operate on the route??
The Superfast VII has had a fire in the funnel area this morning that has forced her to be withdrawn from service for the 0730 round trip, unkown if she will take up schedule for her next round trip.
Stena have confirmed that a second passenger vessel will replace Seatruck Panorama on the Rosslare-Cherbourg route from next June.
"Stena Line can confirm that a ropax ferry will be available on the Rosslare-Cherbourg service from late June 2023, operating six days per week, which will help boost travel and accompanied freight capacity. At this point in time Stena Line is not in a position to confirm the exact details of the ship but will advise the market in due course."
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-takes-delivery-of-second-jumbo-e-flexer-ferry/ (https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-takes-delivery-of-second-jumbo-e-flexer-ferry/)
Quote from: ccs on September 27, 2022, 04:30:25 PMStena have confirmed that a second passenger vessel will replace Seatruck Panorama on the Rosslare-Cherbourg route from next June.
"Stena Line can confirm that a ropax ferry will be available on the Rosslare-Cherbourg service from late June 2023, operating six days per week, which will help boost travel and accompanied freight capacity. At this point in time Stena Line is not in a position to confirm the exact details of the ship but will advise the market in due course."
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-takes-delivery-of-second-jumbo-e-flexer-ferry/ (https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-takes-delivery-of-second-jumbo-e-flexer-ferry/)
Thanks for sharing CCS.
Also worth noting that the sailings are already on sale, though the booking engine has STENA HORIZON in Rosslare and Cherbourg at the same time ;p .
STENA VISION has been linked within the industry for a while though nothing official yet. She would likely need work to make her more suitable for the crossing and there have been suggestions for instance that her bow door would be welded up to make her a stern loader (perhaps even NORMANDY-style sponsons). A case of watch this space but it would give Stena the cabin capacity they need during summer and at the end of a day its a ship that is long paid for.
Stena's booking engine is now showing the Nordica covering for the Superfast VIII next week from Monday-Wednesday (17/10-19/10). This appears to be a change of plan as she was meant to be relieving the Estrid to cover the Edda And Embla drydockings.
Stena Nordica has changed flag from Bahamas to Cyprus.
Stena confirm that Stena Vision will be the second ship on the Rosslare-Cherbourg route from next year. Stena will have 6 round trips per week on the route.
https://www.stenaline.com/media/stories/stena-line-expands-its-ireland-france-ferry-service/ (https://www.stenaline.com/media/stories/stena-line-expands-its-ireland-france-ferry-service/)
It appears that Stena Europe is being offered as an accommodation vessel by Bridgeman Services link here
https://www.bridgemans-services.com/workforce-accommodations/ms-europe/
I don't know what that means for Rosslare-Fishguard services or what ship, if any is to replace her.
Lots of talk about Nordica or Stena Vinga to replace Europe.
My money is on Nordica as she has operated the route. Did Vinga ever call to Fishguard?
Quote from: Niall on December 05, 2022, 05:27:47 PMMy money is on Nordica as she has operated the route. Did Vinga ever call to Fishguard?
Yeah I'd agree with you that Nordica is favourite. According to the link below Vinga covered the Rosslare-Fishguard route in November 2020.
https://wexfordtoday.com/2020/11/23/stena-vinga-replaces-stena-europe-on-rosslare-route/ (https://wexfordtoday.com/2020/11/23/stena-vinga-replaces-stena-europe-on-rosslare-route/)
Stena Nordica is too small for the route in summer.
How about Honfleur?
Been absent from the site for awhile, crazy few months in work but finally a few weeks of calm – hopefully !
However did manage to take two trips on the Irish Sea, had a return trip on the Stena Estrid in early September which was very impressive, sailed out on the Friday afternoon crossing which was very busy, Plus Lounge was full and whole ship was busy, very impressive ferry to travel on, super comfortable and the Plus lounge was fantastic, one really nice feature it has its own toilets which are five star quality and the food was excellent as usual.
Didn't get to do too much walking around (ship was full) but Duty free shop was very nice and the bar with the Skylight was lovely, lots of natural light in the centre of the ship. Couple of small signs of wear and tear visible there was minor damage to the floor but that's probably well sorted since it had a few days in drydock, must say the E Flexer is a very comfortable way of travelling and I can see why the concept is so popular.
Couple of images from Estrid attached.
Also took a return trip on the Stena Europe (hopefully not for the last time !) in early October and as usual a fantastic trip was had, great experience on board, food service was back in the Stena Plus lounge (was not available in May when we last travelled) and all looked good on board except for some signs of water damage at the rear stairwell on deck 10 (at the back where you go out to the deck), one thing I was surprised that was not fixed is when entering the Plus lounge there is a slight smell which was also present on my last crossing in May. (A final legacy from the delay in Turkey which caused issues with the plumbing) The Duty Free offers and Border Shop offers were very good and a nice bonus to pick up when travelling.
On this trip we also discovered a Premier Inn in St Davids which was a revelation, was fantastic hotel to stay in the night before coming back, very nice hotel and great staff and food, only 30 minutes from the port it meant a nice relaxing drive to the ferry plus a chance to spend the evening in St Davids which is nice a calm little City at the edge of Wales.
Lots of rumours about the future of the Stena Europe on the route, but most still indicate the Stena Nordica will be replacing it during 2023, apparently with some upgrades including more seating / customer areas and probably a door to allow the side loading to be used in Fishguard. Duty free shop not really an issue as border shop in Fishguard takes care of a lot of the purchases for car passengers. The most obvious issue is the ramp in Fishguard will need to be upgraded or the jack up rig returned / new one, it really is time for Stena to put the funds in a put in a new ramp and stop messing around. While the Nordica is smaller for passengers it will give the route increased reliability and with plenty of potential to grow the freight business with more capacity.
With the Stena Vision coming in June this is going to be very interesting addition in Rosslare and I think its bulk will dominate the skyline in Rosslare when its in port, much like the Felicity did in its time, will be very interesting to see what modifications will be required for use on the route (would imagine the seas are a bit rougher on the way to France) and how much time will be spent prepping the boat for its new route, the ads make it look fantastic.
Also notice the Stena Scandica has returned to service with a new stern door arrangement, now hydraulic rather than cable operated, and apparently Stena Baltica getting the same fitted, this was originally a part of the Turkish rebuild plan but obviously dropped at the time, possibly due to supply issues.
Some images from Estrid trip below.
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Quote from: giftgrub on December 22, 2022, 10:30:20 AMLots of rumours about the future of the Stena Europe on the route, but most still indicate the Stena Nordica will be replacing it during 2023,
Hopefully not before end of May 2023!
Europe looked great this morning with a little bit of Irish Sea orange rust water on the superstructure in Rosslare with Blue Star 1 alongside and Horizon on berth 3, Panorama and Neptune Dynamis at anchor.(left phone at home so only image in the brain)
Nordica has now gone Remantowa shipyard in Gdańsk for refit which is supposed to prepare it for service from Fishguard, new lounges, (hopefully better toilets) and just more improvements for passenger facilities and capacity. Would imagine the ramp situation in Fishguard will dictate when the Europe will depart, as Nordica does not fit the linkspan in its current state.
Just came across this fantastic image on Flickr, taken on Sunday morning before sunrise, a great image of the harbour.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/15546071@N04/52599834987/in/photolist-2o94UoF-2o8BwFa-2o7A7hj-2o2Jnit-2nZSwh9-2nYtiQg-2nYmJj7-2nY2WnJ-2nXTTyg-2nXwpYF-2nXyT5x-2nWMREU-2nVXJma-2nStz4V-2nMpwbp-2nKWzmz-2nKJmde-2nK1hVh-2nJquk2-2nJnhdv-2nGqDfZ-2nTap1J-2nELUuS-2nEDpzi-2o1DTKK-2nEHS53-2nEKeH9-2nEHR88-2nEHQPx-2nEHQwd-2nELm4p-2nEKcNY-2nEHQMk-2nEKc6W-2nEKbDt-2nEHPEq-2nEHPbe-2nEHNaG-2nEK9iS-2nEK8Fj-2nEHK6y-2nEK7SL-2nECKaY-2nEHHMm-2nEHHB1-2nEHHdR-2nECHCE-2nEK5hk-2nEK4Zr-2nECGBM
From Rosslare, In 48 hours could a Stena Ferry operate 2x wales and 1x France return?
I'm wondering if the Stena rosslare wales and France operation could be consolidated into one?
Some interesting images of the Stena Nordica, currently in drydock in Gdansk, one posted on the Rementowa linkedin page shows the Nordica before entering drydock with some additions in front of the sundeck on deck 6, Also Stena Scandinavica on the far right. (Scandinavica left the shipyard yesterday and has the revised font for the "Connecting Europe" branding.
You can access the Linkedin page from the shipyards website
https://www.remontowa.com.pl/
Second image from the facebook is of the Nordica in drydock and you can again see some of the work on deck 6 and repainting prep taking place.
No sign of them cutting an access door for the side loading in Fishguard yet, but plenty of time for that to happen, Assuming it will fit the side linkspan.
As a reference, please also see the link from the always excellent niferry site of the Nordica prior to the drydock visit.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/a-look-inside-stena-lines-irish-sea-refit-cover-ship-stena-nordica/
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Some nice reading material from World of Ships - A spin off publication from Ships Monthly on Stena Line out this week, usually available in Newsagents in the Uk (never seen in in Ireland) and online from Readly or direct from the publishers
http://shipsmonthly.com/
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Quote from: giftgrub on January 28, 2023, 01:58:50 PMSome nice reading material from World of Ships - A spin off publication from Ships Monthly on Stena Line out this week, usually available in Newsagents in the Uk (never seen in in Ireland) and online from Readly or direct from the publishers
http://shipsmonthly.com/
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Thanks for the heads up. Just ordered it from the publishers.
Nice review of the Stena Vision, coming soon to the Rosslare Cherbourg route.
https://sjofartsbloggarna.com/2023/01/28/farval-stena-vision-valkommen-stena-ebba/?fbclid=IwAR01Co-LRsTxwXIznV09wTWcUUFjNpGq_PDHwllc_csihMZ3NehsnOhI7SI
Quote from: giftgrub on January 29, 2023, 02:33:06 PMNice review of the Stena Vision, coming soon to the Rosslare Cherbourg route.
https://sjofartsbloggarna.com/2023/01/28/farval-stena-vision-valkommen-stena-ebba/?fbclid=IwAR01Co-LRsTxwXIznV09wTWcUUFjNpGq_PDHwllc_csihMZ3NehsnOhI7SI
Thanks for that. Looks well for a 40 year old ship. Planning a trip to France in September. Out on the Galicia and home on Stena Vision. Kind of the new and the old type trip!
A clear shot of the Nordica in drydock in Gdansk, with the new addition on the top deck visible.
Taken from a video posted by Rementowa on Linkedin
https://www.linkedin.com/company/remontowa-shiprepair-yard/
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Just realised that if the Nordica does move to Rosslare Fishguard they could use the double deck linkspan in Rosslare as it's not in use at the moment (since Inishmore left) to speed up loading / unloading , and with a hole cut in the starboard side could utilise the side ramp in Fishguard, thus making it roughly as quick as the Europe with its three stern ramps for unloading all the decks quickly.
Would also assume Stena Vision will probably use it as well to load the top deck centre door in Rosslare.
Nordica has moved out of drydock in Gdańsk and is back alongside the quay, same location as image posted in January.
Looks like Stena Europe is going off service for a few days, one assumes a quick trip to drydock for some certification requirements
Wonder will the jack up rig be ready to return to Fishguard while the Europe is off service.
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Stena Europe had an engine room fire last night on approach to Fishguard
https://pembrokeshire-herald.com/80756/emergency-services-responding-to-fire-on-stena-europe-ferry-at-fishguard-harbour/?fbclid=IwAR3iHZQKnviZEcutzblSrIZBI3YzJI2sefVKFHuE0mdWO1Z4K4ffWpX1wbE
https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/23315603.massive-emergency-response-fishguard-port-reported-stena-fire/
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/news/serious-fire-on-rosslare-to-fishguard-ferry-sees-evacuation-plan-put-in-place-and-life-jackets-issued-42338421.html?fbclid=IwAR3Vu4CRra8M3hq1JlkgPXfjn303HLoiD1GjfXfSlvMVnyI-y6L9Xa5_1DU
The Jack up rig returned to Fishguard yesterday from repairs in Milford Haven. One assumes it will be installed when/if Europe heads to drydock as planned this week.
Stena Europe has now left Fishgaurd.No destination, but probably Cammell Lairds. Lets hope they get her back in service.
Quote from: St Columba on February 14, 2023, 05:39:45 PMStena Europe has now left Fishgaurd.No destination, but probably Cammell Lairds. Lets hope they get her back in service.
Liverpool next
Quote from: boathansm on February 14, 2023, 06:39:58 PMQuote from: St Columba on February 14, 2023, 05:39:45 PMStena Europe has now left Fishgaurd.No destination, but probably Cammell Lairds. Lets hope they get her back in service.
Liverpool next
Great to see it on the move, hopefully the weekend incident did not cause too much damage.
Thought I would share these pages from the December issue of Ships Monthly which included a feature on the Stena Europe's engine room and the team behind it.
Some very interesting images and remember that Ships Monthly is available in all good (and some bad) Newsagents, direct from the publisher or on the app or through Readly.
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Stena Europe not expected back until March.
According to the booking engine on the Stena Line website no sailings available to book until March 1st, which hints at an extended drydock period for the Stena Europe.
The much rumoured permanent replacement for the Stena Europe the Stena Nordica is currently in Gdańsk at the Rementowa shipyard being rebuilt for service on the Irish Sea including a new Stena Plus lounge and complete rebuilding of all passenger areas and not available to provide cover.
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Great image of the Europe in drydock here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/52689720847/
And since posted, many more images on this users page, well worth having a look.
Stena Europe now showing as off service until March 9th
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Also Stena Europe fire has now appeared as under investigation by the MAIB, this is normal and results will be up when investigation completed.
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As the Stena Europe remains in drydock for an extended period of time, thought I would share another great feature from Ships Monthly from February 2022. This time with Captain Richard Cleary.
Please remember that Ships Monthly is available in Newsagents both good and bad, online direct from the publisher and on Readly.
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It's official, Stena Nordica is to replace the Stena Europe in July (https://www.stenaline.com/media/stories/stena-line-to-replace-stena-europe-with-stena-nordica-on-fishguard-rosslare-route/)
Quote from: Kieran on February 22, 2023, 12:41:08 PMIt's official, Stena Nordica is to replace the Stena Europe in July (https://www.stenaline.com/media/stories/stena-line-to-replace-stena-europe-with-stena-nordica-on-fishguard-rosslare-route/)
5-6 month rebuilding of the ship?
It was a long time, she has been at the yard since New Year.
Will the ferry terminals be rebuilt to load at two heights?
Don't think the refurb will take that long, it will be covering another route before going to Fishguard.
Have heard there is a significant upgrade being done with an increase in passenger capacity and new Stena Plus lounge (on top deck) along with other passenger improvements, will probably be done to the latest colours and finishes similar to the E-Flexers.
Fishguard is already a twin level loading port with the bow and side ramps, Rosslare has the twin level available no longer used by Irish Ferries.
Quote from: Kieran on February 22, 2023, 12:41:08 PMIt's official, Stena Nordica is to replace the Stena Europe in July (https://www.stenaline.com/media/stories/stena-line-to-replace-stena-europe-with-stena-nordica-on-fishguard-rosslare-route/)
Sad news though we all knew that it was coming. Planning a couple of trips to get some pics of Europe before she goes!
Quote from: ccs on February 22, 2023, 07:26:31 PMQuote from: Kieran on February 22, 2023, 12:41:08 PMIt's official, Stena Nordica is to replace the Stena Europe in July (https://www.stenaline.com/media/stories/stena-line-to-replace-stena-europe-with-stena-nordica-on-fishguard-rosslare-route/)
Sad news though we all knew that it was coming. Planning a couple of trips to get some pics of Europe before she goes!
100% agree, all good things must come to an end, for our family it will break a link going back to the sixties , my father had traveled on all the regular car ferry's on the route Caledonia Princess, Avalon, Stena Normandica / St Brendan, Felicity / Stena Felicity, Koningin Beatrix and Stena Europe we even got a bridge visit on the Europe on what turned out to be his last round trip, so when we travel from now on it will be on a ship he never experienced. Just different memories and the way we associate things with travel.
However interesting little bit of useless information, the Nordica will actually be older by one year (built 2020, starting 2023)when it arrives in Fishguard than the Europe was when it started (built 1980 arrived 2002).
And finally, great to see all the existing crew are being looked after and jobs are being retained as the have always been top class on the Europe.
More info on the Stena Nordica refurbishment on this link from the always excellent NI Ferry site.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-announces-new-fishguard-rosslare-ferry/?fbclid=IwAR2l9CPgfcB8MA3B_p1NwIdqRjPZCo0PK55C9AdUy6QJLtiJz3EEfoBl9lU
Nordica has moved positions again in Gdańsk, looks like it is back in drydock.
Previous visitor to Rosslare Stena Flavia has completed refit and drydock and is leaving Gdańsk this evening.
Stena Germanica (one of the Gothenburg- Kiel)is in drydock in Odense, cover being provided by the Stena Vinga !
Stena Europe now looks to be returning to service this weekend, currently on the booking engine for Sunday
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Stena Europe is out of drydock in Liverpool (alongside a quay at the shipyard) and expected back in Fishguard on Saturday to resume service on Sunday for the final four months of its service on the Rosslare route.
https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/23357249.stena-europe-will-return-fishguard-weekend/
Hopefully the jack up rig is now back in place and the Europe can return to using the side loading ramp for cars in Fishguard
Quote from: giftgrub on March 02, 2023, 08:53:40 PMStena Europe is out of drydock in Liverpool (alongside a quay at the shipyard) and expected back in Fishguard on Saturday to resume service on Sunday for the final four months of its service on the Rosslare route.
https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/23357249.stena-europe-will-return-fishguard-weekend/
Hopefully the jack up rig is now back in place and the Europe can return to using the side loading ramp for cars in Fishguard
She was in drydock for only 3 days and has since been in the Tranmere Basin.
Stena Europe has left Liverpool and is on the way back to Fishguard, returning to service tomorrow.
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Stena Europe is back in Fishguard ready to resume service, was travelling back at 19+ knots so all looks good for the return.
Some great images of it leaving the shipyard here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/52725328704/
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/52725487215/
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Looks like they only cleaned one side of the ferry, the port side is good as new, Starboard not so good, strange decision.
Europe is back in service today and arrived on time in Rosslare.
Jack up rig has been returned to the linkspan in Fishguard so the side loading ramp can be brought back into use for cars on deck 5.
Just spotted this image on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=9318441448226754&set=pb.100001829737389.-2207520000.&type=3
It's the new look Stena Nordica with the Polarlys (Hurtigruten) in front, but you can clearly see the additional passenger area on the top deck with some circular windows.
This is said to include a brand new Stena Plus along with Movie Lounge and Hygge Lounge.
Quote from: giftgrub on March 07, 2023, 01:48:14 PMJust spotted this image on Facebook.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=9318441448226754&set=pb.100001829737389.-2207520000.&type=3
It's the new look Stena Nordica with the Polarlys (Hurtigruten) in front, but you can clearly see the additional passenger area on the top deck with some circular windows.
This is said to include a brand new Stena Plus along with Movie Lounge and Hygge Lounge.
Inside
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=6356123201086162&set=p.6356123201086162&type=3
Stena Vinga replace Hammerhus in April. When Hammerhus are in drydock.
Stena Vinga will return to the route she was built for.
Was thinking are stena going to make any changes at Fishguard for the new ferry or will it be left as it is
Quote from: drew22b on March 20, 2023, 01:56:41 PMWas thinking are stena going to make any changes at Fishguard for the new ferry or will it be left as it is
As far as I understand, fishguard port will remain the same and they will utilise Nordicas internal ramps to gain access to top vehicle deck.
If im honest thought the same Fishguard is stena's forgotten port on the Irish sea over the years iv heard of them doing upgrades about 3 or 4 times always comes to nothing, I wonder would they even still be there if they dint own the port and think there maybe ome sort of order to provide a link from british rail days they may have took on when they took over Sealink
Quote from: drew22b on March 20, 2023, 05:14:17 PMIf im honest thought the same Fishguard is stena's forgotten port on the Irish sea over the years iv heard of them doing upgrades about 3 or 4 times always comes to nothing, I wonder would they even still be there if they dint own the port and think there maybe ome sort of order to provide a link from british rail days they may have took on when they took over Sealink
Problem they have is every time they put in for planning permission the local Pembrokeshire council reject it on marine environmental grounds,
Linkspan will fall in the sea in the end and they got lucky with the jack up rig that might also explain why years ago the 2nd linkspan was never built because they wanted Irish ferries to move there so do the council want stena to leave the route the linkspan is on its last legs now so wont go on forever so what happens then
Quote from: drew22b on March 20, 2023, 05:50:47 PMLinkspan will fall in the sea in the end and they got lucky with the jack up rig that might also explain why years ago the 2nd linkspan was never built because they wanted Irish ferries to move there so do the council want stena to leave the route the linkspan is on its last legs now so wont go on forever so what happens then
Hopefully now that stena have placed the double deck ro ro nordica on the route that can be used as leverage with any future planning applications to get a double deck loading span put in place. Until then though we have to cope with what we got, can't even utilise the side load span that the europe used to use.
Quote from: Morgsy24 on March 20, 2023, 06:30:58 PMQuote from: drew22b on March 20, 2023, 05:50:47 PMLinkspan will fall in the sea in the end and they got lucky with the jack up rig that might also explain why years ago the 2nd linkspan was never built because they wanted Irish ferries to move there so do the council want stena to leave the route the linkspan is on its last legs now so wont go on forever so what happens then
Hopefully now that stena have placed the double deck ro ro nordica on the route that can be used as leverage with any future planning applications to get a double deck loading span put in place. Until then though we have to cope with what we got, can't even utilise the side load span that the europe used to use.
Afaik the side loading ramp can be used with the jack up linkspan at Fishguard as Europe is able to use it
Quote from: Niall on March 20, 2023, 07:49:19 PMQuote from: Morgsy24 on March 20, 2023, 06:30:58 PMQuote from: drew22b on March 20, 2023, 05:50:47 PMLinkspan will fall in the sea in the end and they got lucky with the jack up rig that might also explain why years ago the 2nd linkspan was never built because they wanted Irish ferries to move there so do the council want stena to leave the route the linkspan is on its last legs now so wont go on forever so what happens then
Hopefully now that stena have placed the double deck ro ro nordica on the route that can be used as leverage with any future planning applications to get a double deck loading span put in place. Until then though we have to cope with what we got, can't even utilise the side load span that the europe used to use.
Afaik the side loading ramp can be used with the jack up linkspan at Fishguard as Europe is able to use it
Theres no side loading door on the nordica though
Could they have not cut a side door during this refit
Quote from: Morgsy24 on March 20, 2023, 08:13:42 PMQuote from: Niall on March 20, 2023, 07:49:19 PMQuote from: Morgsy24 on March 20, 2023, 06:30:58 PMQuote from: drew22b on March 20, 2023, 05:50:47 PMLinkspan will fall in the sea in the end and they got lucky with the jack up rig that might also explain why years ago the 2nd linkspan was never built because they wanted Irish ferries to move there so do the council want stena to leave the route the linkspan is on its last legs now so wont go on forever so what happens then
Quote from: Morgsy24 on March 20, 2023, 08:13:42 PMQuote from: Niall on March 20, 2023, 07:49:19 PMQuote from: Morgsy24 on March 20, 2023, 06:30:58 PMQuote from: drew22b on March 20, 2023, 05:50:47 PMLinkspan will fall in the sea in the end and they got lucky with the jack up rig that might also explain why years ago the 2nd linkspan was never built because they wanted Irish ferries to move there so do the council want stena to leave the route the linkspan is on its last legs now so wont go on forever so what happens then
Hopefully now that stena have placed the double deck ro ro nordica on the route that can be used as leverage with any future planning applications to get a double deck loading span put in place. Until then though we have to cope with what we got, can't even utilise the side load span that the europe used to use.
Afaik the side loading ramp can be used with the jack up linkspan at Fishguard as Europe is able to use it
Theres no side loading door on the nordica though
Hopefully now that stena have placed the double deck ro ro nordica on the route that can be used as leverage with any future planning applications to get a double deck loading span put in place. Until then though we have to cope with what we got, can't even utilise the side load span that the europe used to use.
Afaik the side loading ramp can be used with the jack up linkspan at Fishguard as Europe is able to use it
Theres no side loading door on the nordica though
I believe she is getting one cut in Gdansk if it hasn't been done already
Just spotted this image on the Rementowa Linkedin, look what's in the background Stena Nordica.
Dont see a door cut yet for the Side loading ramp.
Stena Vision will be in Rementowa for refit from today also, just arriving this morning
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Oscar Wilde had a side door for upper car deck loading when she was with Colour Line,
Quote from: IFPete on March 28, 2023, 12:36:11 PMOscar Wilde had a side door for upper car deck loading when she was with Colour Line,
Yes, Stena Normandica/St Brendan, Felicity/Stena Felicity, Stena Europe all used the side loading ramp in Fishguard, there was even a side loading ramp built in Rosslare for the Felicity (not there now)(not sure about the Koningin Beatrix) so it's expected that Nordica will get the ability to use it.
Image of the St Brendan on link below
https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:HST_125_and_St_Brendan_ferry_at_Fishguard.jpg
Stena Nordica has a good internal ramp.
Stena Spirit has Danish flag today. Earlier Cyprus.
(https://i.ibb.co/gWhvPvT/Stena-Spirit.jpg)
Quote from: giftgrub on March 28, 2023, 07:09:58 PMQuote from: IFPete on March 28, 2023, 12:36:11 PMOscar Wilde had a side door for upper car deck loading when she was with Colour Line,
Yes, Stena Normandica/St Brendan, Felicity/Stena Felicity, Stena Europe all used the side loading ramp in Fishguard, there was even a side loading ramp built in Rosslare for the Felicity (not there now)(not sure about the Koningin Beatrix) so it's expected that Nordica will get the ability to use it.
Image of the St Brendan on link below
https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:HST_125_and_St_Brendan_ferry_at_Fishguard.jpg
I remember the first time I went to Rosslare On the Felicity she used a side loading ramp. I went as a footy can remember using the long sky walk from the ship to the terminal
First reported on the facebook by the ever reliable Scott Mackey, the Stena Nordica will make its first appearance on the Irish Sea in its new look and configuration on the Belfast Cairryan route on April 9th. Now visible on the Stena Line Freight timetable.
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Any word on what Stena Nordicas increased capacity will be?
Quote from: Morgsy24 on March 31, 2023, 06:23:00 PMAny word on what Stena Nordicas increased capacity will be?
550
Quote from: anglesey_boy on April 01, 2023, 06:26:51 PMQuote from: Morgsy24 on March 31, 2023, 06:23:00 PMAny word on what Stena Nordicas increased capacity will be?
550
Had heard closer to 700 after the additional deck space on the helipad and the rebuilding of the existing passenger areas, won't be long till we find out.
It could become interesting on the southern corridor if the Nordica establishes herself and Irish ferries dont get the right Vessel for Pembroke it seems the pendulum swings between the routes depending on the vessels
Quote from: giftgrub on April 01, 2023, 07:12:11 PMQuote from: anglesey_boy on April 01, 2023, 06:26:51 PMQuote from: Morgsy24 on March 31, 2023, 06:23:00 PMAny word on what Stena Nordicas increased capacity will be?
550
Had heard closer to 700 after the additional deck space on the helipad and the rebuilding of the existing passenger areas, won't be long till we find out.
Internal SL docs say circa550
i was reading an article on another ferry forum (ferries facebook) which was suggesting irish ferries are chartering the 1996 japanese built "ariadne" ferry owned by hellenic seaways for rosslare pembroke route...
Quote from: 12345teacher on April 03, 2023, 06:35:56 AMi was reading an article on another ferry forum (ferries facebook) which was suggesting irish ferries are chartering the 1996 japanese built "ariadne" ferry owned by hellenic seaways for rosslare pembroke route...
Very unlikely
Nordica has left Gdańsk, due back into service this weekend as the Superfast VII and VIII go for refit and refurbishing.
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Just spotted a time table change on the Rosslare Fishguard route at the end of June
The early morning departure from Rosslare is now at 08.15 ! (A few more minutes in bed), the evening departure now at 19.30.
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Departing Fishguard at 01.30 and 14.00
One assumes that this is happening at the same time as the Nordica arrives onto the service.
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Am I right in thinking that the Stena Europe used to depart from Rosslare /Fishguard around these times a few years ago?
I am sure Irish Ferries have something up there sleeve, I have seen Superefast X & XII are available for sale as well as Stena Felicity.
Quote from: A83 on April 04, 2023, 08:19:50 AMAm I right in thinking that the Stena Europe used to depart from Rosslare /Fishguard around these times a few years ago?
Yep fairly sure you're right though I think the evening departure from Rosslare was at approx 20.30
Think morning was 9am from Rosslare and evening was later than 8.30 was it 9pm departure, they always left after Irish Ferries.
Some nice images posted by Marek Wrodarczyk on the the Stena Fanatics Facebook last night of the Nordica leaving Gdansk.
Click right from the image on this link
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=902736781033764&set=pcb.2460131414148695
Also got a small extension to the stern, presumably to balance the extra weight higher up or for another reason ?
Mentioned on another facebook post, the starboard stairwell on the Nordica is in the same place the side loading ramp would go, so it looks like no side loading for Fishguard.
Also posted were some interior images by Dariusz Sitarz who appears to be onboard, two images shared below of the new Stena Plus and the front lounge, looks like a baby E Flexer, which is understandable as that's the current design scheme.
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Previous times were 02.30 and 14.30 from Fishguard, 09.00 and 21.15 from Rosslare.
I wonder if they have consulted Transport For Wales about this change as they still just about run a "boat train" which will need re-timing.
11pm isn't late enough for a decent overnight connection unfortunately, the current train only goes to Swansea. A connection from this would arrive there even later but still 2-3 hours too early for onward connections.
Some nice images and video of the Nordica leaving the Rementowa ship in Gdańsk.
https://www.portalmorski.pl/wiadomosci/stocznie-statki/53166-stena-nordica-bardziej-komfortowa-po-przebudowie-w-remontowej
https://youtu.be/AB2TMc9_Ml0
Plenty of interior images posted on this link of the Stena Nordica following its revamp.
https://theferryforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=14397#p14397
Nice video from onboard the refurbished Stena Nordica
https://youtu.be/U6otWyLUB1s
Posted on LinkedIn by Cammell Laird (copied from their page can't seem to link it)
This month, Cammell Laird welcomed MS Stena Superfast VII into dry dock for a 21 day docking period.
The vessel, owned by Stena Line, is a fast Ro-Pax ferry and operates their service between Belfast and Cairnryan.
The Cammell Laird team is carrying out an extensive programme of ship repair works including the application of a new paint scheme, blasting and coating of the car decks, rudder repairs, bow thruster replacement, port and starboard stabiliser overhaul, and the installation of a ballast water treatment system.
Superfast VII is due to depart at the end of the month, before Cammell Laird welcomes Stena's sister vessel; Superfast VIII in May.
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Some very nice images of the Stena Superfast VII in drydock, looking very well with a fresh coat of paint.
Click right from the image on this link
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/52837519820/
Stena Vision
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid0g2C4SdP3k7MbwHfupKXAXYgyjkhwWsLKbWREs946PFMXTW3h4B5aJackUaqjUBpgl&id=100090082505607
Looks like Europe has developed a technical issue, heading to Dublin from Fishguard
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Looks to be heading back toward Fishguard now.
Anyone any clues as to what was wrong?
Quote from: Ncol on April 28, 2023, 09:15:43 AMLooks to be heading back toward Fishguard now.
Anyone any clues as to what was wrong?
She's heading back to Rosslare now. She had engine trouble yeasterday and needed tug assistance.
Came back to Rosslare at 19+ knts, looks like whatever the issue it is fixed
According to the Stena Line live freight timetable, STENA SUPERFAST VII is due back in service with a 2300hrs departure from Belfast this Tuesday, 2nd May.
STENA SUPERFAST VIII's 1930hrs departure on Tuesday from Loch Ryan Port has been rescheduled to 2030hrs. After arrival and discharge in Belfast, she will proceed to the Cammell Laird shipyard in Birkenhead for her own dry docking.
Currently, STENA NORDICA's final sailing on the North Channel is at 2330hrs on Saturday 20th May, after which she is due to proceed to the North Sea to provide cover initially for STENA TRANSIT between Killingholme and Hoek can Holland from 23rd May. Further cover on the North Sea is expected, after which it is believed she will release STENA ESTRID for refit before taking up permanent service at Fishguard in place of STENA EUROPE on the Rosslare link in July.
STENA SUPERFAST VIII resumes service after her refit with a departure from Loch Ryan Port at 0700hrs on Sunday 21st May.
The Superfast vessels will return to service equipped with pet lounges on deck 7, in the area formerly occupied by the gaming arcade. They will also boast enlarged Stena Plus lounges.
A very interesting review of the refurbished Stena Nordica from the excellent NIFERRY site
https://www.niferry.co.uk/special-feature-stenas-modern-new-rosslare-to-fishguard-ferry-stena-nordica/?fbclid=IwAR330tLhqasne_udRxDV_USs94CU3VMO9TmPZOZYZ_y_B0Nf8cOjUaYWLko
Quote from: scomac on April 29, 2023, 09:23:35 PMAccording to the Stena Line live freight timetable, STENA SUPERFAST VII is due back in service with a 2300hrs departure from Belfast this Tuesday, 2nd May.
STENA SUPERFAST VIII's 1930hrs departure on Tuesday from Loch Ryan Port has been rescheduled to 2030hrs. After arrival and discharge in Belfast, she will proceed to the Cammell Laird shipyard in Birkenhead for her own dry docking.
Currently, STENA NORDICA's final sailing on the North Channel is at 2330hrs on Saturday 20th May, after which she is due to proceed to the North Sea to provide cover initially for STENA TRANSIT between Killingholme and Hoek can Holland from 23rd May. Further cover on the North Sea is expected, after which it is believed she will release STENA ESTRID for refit before taking up permanent service at Fishguard in place of STENA EUROPE on the Rosslare link in July.
STENA SUPERFAST VIII resumes service after her refit with a departure from Loch Ryan Port at 0700hrs on Sunday 21st May.
The Superfast vessels will return to service equipped with pet lounges on deck 7, in the area formerly occupied by the gaming arcade. They will also boast enlarged Stena Plus lounges.
Further to this, STENA SUPERFAST VII is still in dry dock at Cammell Laird, Birkenhead. Stena Line's live freight timetable currently shows her resuming service at 0330 ex Loch Ryan Port on Friday morning.
Quote from: scomac on May 03, 2023, 01:44:40 PMQuote from: scomac on April 29, 2023, 09:23:35 PMAccording to the Stena Line live freight timetable, STENA SUPERFAST VII is due back in service with a 2300hrs departure from Belfast this Tuesday, 2nd May.
STENA SUPERFAST VIII's 1930hrs departure on Tuesday from Loch Ryan Port has been rescheduled to 2030hrs. After arrival and discharge in Belfast, she will proceed to the Cammell Laird shipyard in Birkenhead for her own dry docking.
Currently, STENA NORDICA's final sailing on the North Channel is at 2330hrs on Saturday 20th May, after which she is due to proceed to the North Sea to provide cover initially for STENA TRANSIT between Killingholme and Hoek can Holland from 23rd May. Further cover on the North Sea is expected, after which it is believed she will release STENA ESTRID for refit before taking up permanent service at Fishguard in place of STENA EUROPE on the Rosslare link in July.
STENA SUPERFAST VIII resumes service after her refit with a departure from Loch Ryan Port at 0700hrs on Sunday 21st May.
The Superfast vessels will return to service equipped with pet lounges on deck 7, in the area formerly occupied by the gaming arcade. They will also boast enlarged Stena Plus lounges.
Further to this, STENA SUPERFAST VII is still in dry dock at Cammell Laird, Birkenhead. Stena Line's live freight timetable currently shows her resuming service at 0330 ex Loch Ryan Port on Friday morning.
Another update... this keeps getting pushed back. STENA SUPERFAST VII is now on the timetable to resume service at 1130 from Loch Ryan Port tomorrow.
Quote from: scomac on May 04, 2023, 07:50:32 PMQuote from: scomac on May 03, 2023, 01:44:40 PMQuote from: scomac on April 29, 2023, 09:23:35 PMAccording to the Stena Line live freight timetable, STENA SUPERFAST VII is due back in service with a 2300hrs departure from Belfast this Tuesday, 2nd May.
STENA SUPERFAST VIII's 1930hrs departure on Tuesday from Loch Ryan Port has been rescheduled to 2030hrs. After arrival and discharge in Belfast, she will proceed to the Cammell Laird shipyard in Birkenhead for her own dry docking.
Currently, STENA NORDICA's final sailing on the North Channel is at 2330hrs on Saturday 20th May, after which she is due to proceed to the North Sea to provide cover initially for STENA TRANSIT between Killingholme and Hoek can Holland from 23rd May. Further cover on the North Sea is expected, after which it is believed she will release STENA ESTRID for refit before taking up permanent service at Fishguard in place of STENA EUROPE on the Rosslare link in July.
STENA SUPERFAST VIII resumes service after her refit with a departure from Loch Ryan Port at 0700hrs on Sunday 21st May.
The Superfast vessels will return to service equipped with pet lounges on deck 7, in the area formerly occupied by the gaming arcade. They will also boast enlarged Stena Plus lounges.
Further to this, STENA SUPERFAST VII is still in dry dock at Cammell Laird, Birkenhead. Stena Line's live freight timetable currently shows her resuming service at 0330 ex Loch Ryan Port on Friday morning.
Another update... this keeps getting pushed back. STENA SUPERFAST VII is now on the timetable to resume service at 1130 from Loch Ryan Port tomorrow.
It has arrived in Loch Ryan now.
Stena Line announce two new Hybrid freight vessels to be built for Belfast- Heysham
press release
https://stenaline.com/media/stories/stena-line-boosts-freight-capacity-on-irish-sea-with-two-all-new-newmax-hybrid-vessels/
STENA SUPERFAST VIII resumed service following refit at the Cammell Laird shipyard in Birkenhead with a delayed 2330hrs departure from Belfast to Cairnryan last night.
This released STENA NORDICA to depart the Irish Sea and proceed to Hoek van Holland to cover for the refit of STENA TRANSIT on the Killingholme route. Following that, she is scheduled to cover for STENA FORERUNNER between Rotterdam and Harwich, according to the Stena Line live freight timetable.
She is then expected to cover at Holyhead for STENA ESTRID before moving to her new home on the Rosslare Europort to Fishguard route in place of STENA EUROPE during July.
I am wondering how his shall works with the small Stena Nordica on the Fishguard-route.
Stena has here massive downsized the max-capacity from circa 2000 on Stena Felicity - over Stena Europe with more than 1400 to only 630 now on Stena Nordica.
But this 630 is just theoretic only, if you count all tables onboard it will be around 90 only.
(Excluding driver-areas and areas where extra fee is needed)
So in fact this ferry is full with ca. 90 cars or Campers onboard and 0 foot-passengers, 0 bicycles, 0 motorbikes and 0 coaches.
If you "fake-book" on the Stena website already now many days in july and some days in aug. and june are full-booked with Pax. So there are now already 1400 people booked on Stena Europe.
Stena has forgotten and underestimated here 2 points:
- Ireland is a booming holiday-destination in many countries, f.ex. in Germany. The Irish Touristboard is awaiting every year ca. 50.000 more tourists than every year before (2019 750.000, 2020-22 Covid, 2023 800.000, 2024 850.000 etc.) - just only from Germany which is the biggest market after UK (and USA) tourists. And the shortest route from Dover to the holiday-cottages, hotels and house-boats in Ireland is via Rosslare.
- Espcially in this year a not small number of Irish Ferries Pembroke customers has booked Stena from Fishguard instead because long time bookings was not possible (in jan./Febr. ca.) for the Pembroke route in summer - and later it was possible, but with an unknown ship. So every normal family-father or mother will book better the old big Stena Europe then - instead of a theoretic thinkable old poor freighter. The Oscar Wilde is a much better very comfortable big ferry - but outside of "ferry-expert-circles" as here in the forum nobody else knows until today that this ferry will operate in summer on the Pembroke-route. Because Irish Ferries is extrem slowly with updates on their websites.
So the result is: Much more bookings as normal for Stena and less bookings as normal for Irish Ferries on the South Channel this year.
And as summary - Stena is using with the Stena Nordica a much too small ship on the Fishguard-route. If the change from Europe to Nordica will really be in july... .
Irish Ferries were fined a number of years ago for taking bookings for WB Yeats and then not being able to fulfill the bookings due to her late arrival. They will not officially Add Oscar Wilde to the booking engine until she and her crew pass all regulatory checks.
Quote from: Ferriesbetterfastercheape on May 24, 2023, 04:41:25 PMI am wondering how his shall works with the small Stena Nordica on the Fishguard-route.
Stena has here massive downsized the max-capacity from circa 2000 on Stena Felicity - over Stena Europe with more than 1400 to only 630 now on Stena Nordica.
But this 630 is just theoretic only, if you count all tables onboard it will be around 90 only.
(Excluding driver-areas and areas where extra fee is needed)
So in fact this ferry is full with ca. 90 cars or Campers onboard and 0 foot-passengers, 0 bicycles, 0 motorbikes and 0 coaches.
If you "fake-book" on the Stena website already now many days in july and some days in aug. and june are full-booked with Pax. So there are now already 1400 people booked on Stena Europe.
Stena has forgotten and underestimated here 2 points:
- Ireland is a booming holiday-destination in many countries, f.ex. in Germany. The Irish Touristboard is awaiting every year ca. 50.000 more tourists than every year before (2019 750.000, 2020-22 Covid, 2023 800.000, 2024 850.000 etc.) - just only from Germany which is the biggest market after UK (and USA) tourists. And the shortest route from Dover to the holiday-cottages, hotels and house-boats in Ireland is via Rosslare.
- Espcially in this year a not small number of Irish Ferries Pembroke customers has booked Stena from Fishguard instead because long time bookings was not possible (in jan./Febr. ca.) for the Pembroke route in summer - and later it was possible, but with an unknown ship. So every normal family-father or mother will book better the old big Stena Europe then - instead of a theoretic thinkable old poor freighter. The Oscar Wilde is a much better very comfortable big ferry - but outside of "ferry-expert-circles" as here in the forum nobody else knows until today that this ferry will operate in summer on the Pembroke-route. Because Irish Ferries is extrem slowly with updates on their websites.
So the result is: Much more bookings as normal for Stena and less bookings as normal for Irish Ferries on the South Channel this year.
And as summary - Stena is using with the Stena Nordica a much too small ship on the Fishguard-route. If the change from Europe to Nordica will really be in july... .
Knowing that STENA NORDICA will be on the route during July means that booking numbers taken will be based on the capacity of that ship and not STENA EUROPE.
This is despite the fact it still states the Europe on the online booking engine. The Nordica has to cover for 3 more ships before she arrives at Fishguard and these things can be subject to unforeseen delays. That said, there will be a definitive date they are working towards but they aren't in a position to make it public yet due to the possibility of some of those unforeseen delays.
There is no way they'll have taken bookings for up to 1,386 people on sailings that could or will change to a ship that can carry 629.
IRISH FERRIES:
Yes - the FSG delivery-delays... . Ok, better to loose many bookings than to pay eventually high fees... . So we can forget the 2023 figures from the Pembroke-route, to see, if the Oscar Wilde is too big, too small or right is not possible before the year 2024.
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STENA NORDICA / EUROPE:
For me it is a little bit unclear how it should work:
When i "fake-book" "my fake-group" of 225 Pax + 1 motorhome + 1 hometrailer on the swedish Stena-site - then many days in summer the night-dep. from Fishguard is possible - but the 13:00/14:00 dep. is full-booked already now on many days.
Possible to book today are only these day-departures: 3.june, 11.june, 17.june, 21.june, 25.june, 26.june, 28.june, 3.july, 4.july, 5.july, 6.july, 8.july, 9.july, 20.july, 3.aug., 9.aug., 10.aug., 15.aug., 16.aug., 17.aug. and from 20.aug. is still possible daily (in august most tourists are travelling home to Europe). The number of bookable days will be also smaller and smaller, 2 weeks ago only 4.june and last july-week was full.
So for me all this means that on the (nearly) "full-booked" departures are already now CIRCA 1200 Pax booked OR that there is no space anymore for 1 motor-home.
So a change to the much smaller Nordica is not possible before end aug. or sept. ???
Would be also logical because only very few people will book an unknown ferry from Irish Ferries and in jan./febr./march it was generally not possible to book the Pembroke-route. So all early-bookers was forced to book Stena Europe instead Irish Ferries in summer.
Similar from Holyhead - most dep. are still to book - but f.ex. 4.june afternoon Estrid is full (because of fans returning from the FA Cup-final in London to Ireland, this day was full from Fishguard since many weeks). So this means minimum 700 Pax are booked because my booking is not possible on Stena Estrid - but on Adventurer and Estrid other days it is possible. (Estrid max. is 927 Pax)
Just for info: I can go on the not full-booked days until to fill in the number of credit-card - so the booking-system works - no error. Costs one-way ca. 80.000 Swedish Krones.
The reality is that there will be a cap on the capacity for sailings that are currently planned to be taken over by Nordica - this is why they are showing as sold out at this stage, especially daytime sailings at the summer peak.
Okeeeey - mhmmmm - i don`t want to annoying - but i am surprised that only i notice it ?
In my opinion the Nordica is much too small for this route (already in the last weeks in North Channel she was often full-booked) in summer - at least this year when many people don`t book this route with Irish Ferries.
Again tried to book now between 40 and 90 Pax only all days next week on the Stena-site.
As foot-pax, with 1 car or with 1 motor-home.
Most days only a few free places onboard at the 13:00 dep. - f.ex. one day 40 Pax is possible, but 60 is shown full-booked - or other day 40 and 60 is possible - but 80 is full-booked.
So if still the Europe is in the booking-engine, more than 1300 Pax are already onboard.
And if already now next week the Nordica is in the booking-engine (???) - but with name "Europe" - than more than 540 Pax are already onboard.
Would make sense also with many bookings - this weekend is the start of more than 40% of all Germans "Pentecost-school-holidays" (mostly for 2 weeks), Germans are the biggest group travelling to Ireland (behind UK and USA) and Ireland is booming in Germany as destination and from Munich f.ex. it takes 3, 4 days time to travel to Fishguard via Dover and Stonehenge... so they will be in Fishguard during next week.
But maybe someone here is living nearby Rosslare, has nothing to do and can observe in Rosslare port a little bit arriving ferries... ? Then we would have a report how full (or empty) the ferries are really and with which kind of travellers (coaches, cars, motor-homes, bicycles etc.) and from which countries mostly... .
All I can say is that I have worked in the ferry industry for many years and spent a long time working for Stena Line. They will not take bookings for more than a ship can accommodate. So, if they know (but haven't made public yet) when they plan to have Nordica take over from Europe, they will not book more passengers than Nordica can accommodate.
Fishguard-Rosslare is not a busy route. The capacity of Nordica will more than suffice for the vast majority of the year. Stena Line know what they are doing and will have done their homework by placing Nordica on the route as permanent ship.
Stena Europe is on one of its once legendary Wexford bay cruises, looks like it was unable to dock in Rosslare this evening, windy in the Rosslare area today (good drying day according to my mother !), assuming they are waiting for winds to drop.
Unfortunately could be one of the last times this will happen as the early July switch with the Stena Nordica fast approaches.
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Quote from: giftgrub on June 07, 2023, 10:49:17 PMUnfortunately could be one of the last times this will happen as the early July switch with the Stena Nordica fast approaches.
Stena Nordica is scheduled at Dublin-Holyhead until 11 july.
Quote from: giftgrub on June 07, 2023, 10:49:17 PMStena Europe is on one of its once legendary Wexford bay cruises, looks like it was unable to dock in Rosslare this evening, windy in the Rosslare area today (good drying day according to my mother !), assuming they are waiting for winds to drop.
Unfortunately could be one of the last times this will happen as the early July switch with the Stena Nordica fast approaches.
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STENA EUROPE was experiencing technical difficulties resulting in a 14 hour crossing from Fishguard when she couldn't dock in Rosslare yesterday evening.
Quote from: boathansm on June 08, 2023, 06:17:27 AMQuote from: giftgrub on June 07, 2023, 10:49:17 PMUnfortunately could be one of the last times this will happen as the early July switch with the Stena Nordica fast approaches.
Stena Nordica is scheduled at Dublin-Holyhead until 11 july.
She will then proceed to take up service between Rosslare and Fishguard. Expect that to be soon after she finishes at Holyhead, probably a couple of days or so later.
Anyone know what the technical fault was?
STENA NORDICA is now showing on the Stena Line booking system as taking over from STENA EUROPE with the 1930hrs sailing from Rosslare on Thursday 13th July.
Yes - really strange this summer the Fishguard Stena-route. Stena want further downsize the route to a more freight-orientated route with small pax-capacity - but Irish Touristboard is awaiting new all-time record f.ex. from German tourists (and from other countries too) this year... .
In my Stena booking-system they change back from Stena Nordica to Stena Europe on 3.aug. .
The 1:30 is Nordica from Fishguard - but the 14:00 dep. is the Europe shown again.
Maybe they have seen now also what i have said since 2 month everywhere in Internet - that on a lot of days the more attractive day-dep. in july / aug. are already full-booked since many weeks, first summer dep. was for already in april full-booked.
And the small Nordica with max. 630 Pax only - and as i have counted all tables onboard which are less than 100 only - so in fact with max. 100 cars the Nordica is in practice full, families from car 101, 102 etc. must take "seats" on floors or stairs... . If there is only 1 coach onboard the ferry is in the public spaces full with ca. 80 cars only. And this is counted with 0 foot-pax, 0 bicycle-pax, 0 motorbikes, 0 campers etc. - only truck-drivers has a number of extra-tables.
So i am looking forwards for reports from travelers in tripadvisor etc. who was onboard Nordica in summer with ca. 600 people and less than 100 tables only... .
You could be right, but i would hope and think that maybe the ferry company knows what it is doing, the added reliability that the Nordica will bring can be used to help build the route for both freight and passenger customers with far less cancellations expected for weather or technical issues, with extra power available, Nordica could run at 23 knts if required to make time (while obviously burning way more fuel) I would imagine the booking engines won't be fully updated until Nordica takes over as it could be delayed if Estrid drydock cover overruns.
Yes capacity will be less at peak time obviously, and if 10 coaches of 50 passengers each were to book the ferry it will only leave room for another 130 passengers and their vehicles but if the Nordica is sailing full every crossing it will be a nice problem for future Stena to solve.
Onboard video of the Nordica onboard here:
https://youtu.be/SOp8WwiyXTk
Quote from: Ferriesbetterfastercheape on June 13, 2023, 03:14:34 PMYes - really strange this summer the Fishguard StenaQuote from: Ferriesbetterfastercheape on June 13, 2023, 03:14:34 PMYes - really strange this summer the Fishguard Stena-route. Stena want further downsize the route to a more freight-orientated route with small pax-capacity - but Irish Touristboard is awaiting new all-time record f.ex. from German tourists (and from other countries too) this year... .
In my Stena booking-system they change back from Stena Nordica to Stena Europe on 3.aug. .
The 1:30 is Nordica from Fishguard - but the 14:00 dep. is the Europe shown again.
Maybe they have seen now also what i have said since 2 month everywhere in Internet - that on a lot of days the more attractive day-dep. in july / aug. are already full-booked since many weeks, first summer dep. was for already in april full-booked.
And the small Nordica with max. 630 Pax only - and as i have counted all tables onboard which are less than 100 only - so in fact with max. 100 cars the Nordica is in practice full, families from car 101, 102 etc. must take "seats" on floors or stairs... . If there is only 1 coach onboard the ferry is in the public spaces full with ca. 80 cars only. And this is counted with 0 foot-pax, 0 bicycle-pax, 0 motorbikes, 0 campers etc. - only truck-drivers has a number of extra-tables.
So i am looking forwards for reports from travelers in tripadvisor etc. who was onboard Nordica in summer with ca. 600 people and less than 100 tables only... .
In my Stena booking-system they change back from Stena Nordica to Stena Europe on 3.aug. .
The 1:30 is Nordica from Fishguard - but the 14:00 dep. is the Europe shown again.
Maybe they have seen now also what i have said since 2 month everywhere in Internet - that on a lot of days the more attractive day-dep. in july / aug. are already full-booked since many weeks, first summer dep. was for already in april full-booked.
And the small Nordica with max. 630 Pax only - and as i have counted all tables onboard which are less than 100 only - so in fact with max. 100 cars the Nordica is in practice full, families from car 101, 102 etc. must take "seats" on floors or stairs... . If there is only 1 coach onboard the ferry is in the public spaces full with ca. 80 cars only. And this is counted with 0 foot-pax, 0 bicycle-pax, 0 motorbikes, 0 campers etc. - only truck-drivers has a number of extra-tables.
So i am looking forwards for reports from travelers in tripadvisor etc. who was onboard Nordica in summer with ca. 600 people and less than 100 tables only... .
The reality is that the Fishguard-Rosslare route is in general decline. The route could have closed if the Nordica was not made available to take over from the Europe.
Also, the booking engine will be in the process of being manually updated and changed from the Europe to the Nordica, so any change back on 3 August will be updated as that date draws nearer.
Stena Vision is on the move,destination Gothenburg anchorage.
Stena Vision not hanging around either, travelling at 20+ knts to the anchorage, assuming for bunkers then off to Cherbourg / Rosslare for berthing trials etc ?
Vision departure on RTÉ website
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2023/0615/1389382-stena-line-ferry-for-rosslare-leaves-poland/
Vision underway after refuelling at the Gothenburg anchorage, according to ais due into Rosslare on Sunday morning, (if correct) will be a great photo opportunity to capture Vision and Europe together in port.
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Posted by Scott Mackey on the Facebook Stena have released footage of the Vision leaving Gdańsk
https://youtu.be/oKFfRVkiStw
From images from Gdańsk it looks like the bow door has been welded shut and it will operate as a stern loader in both ports.
Marine Traffic showing here arriving in Rosslare at 5am on Sunday
Quote from: giftgrub on June 15, 2023, 07:21:32 PMPosted by Scott Mackey on the Facebook Stena have released footage of the Vision leaving Gdańsk
https://youtu.be/oKFfRVkiStw
From images from Gdańsk it looks like the bow door has been welded shut and it will operate as a stern loader in both ports.
Yepp, and upper stern loaderramp has been removed. The port loading ramp has been restored to full width as when she was new. She aslo has been given an internal loading ramp.
Vison making great progress, first time its been this far away from Sweden.
Getting close to the Orkneys now
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Posted on the Facebook by Rosslare Harbours Coffee Dock, image of the Stena Vision passing behind the Pentalina.
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Stena Vision coming down the west side of Scotland now, directly North of Coleraine at them moment, wont be long before its in the North Channel, could be some good photo opportunities from other Stena ferries as they cross paths on the Irish Sea.
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Quote from: giftgrub on June 17, 2023, 10:16:54 AMStena Vision coming down the west side of Scotland now, directly North of Coleraine at them moment, wont be long before its in the North Channel, could be some good photo opportunities from other Stena ferries as they cross paths on the Irish Sea.
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Low cloud and thick mist today, plus she passed through the North Channel just when both Superfasts were in port!
Thinkable future option:
Stena replace Horizon with Spirit, Nordica replace Spirit in Karlskrona, Horizon replace Europe.
Nordica is/was too small for Fishguard (Pax-capacity), Horizon has with 900 Pax much more pax-capacity for Fishguard than Nordica with 630 only.
And on the important booming Ireland-France route Stena has the most cabins to offer and 2 very old big ferries brings still a lot of money there.
Nordica is small - but as 3rd ferry in Karlskrona big enough. Europe scrap / sell in 2024.
Quote from: scomac on June 17, 2023, 03:43:45 PMQuote from: giftgrub on June 17, 2023, 10:16:54 AMStena Vision coming down the west side of Scotland now, directly North of Coleraine at them moment, wont be long before its in the North Channel, could be some good photo opportunities from other Stena ferries as they cross paths on the Irish Sea.
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Low cloud and thick mist today, plus she passed through the North Channel just when both Superfasts were in port!
About to pass Dublin and both in port as well, slowing down though, unless they are going to arrive in Rosslare ahead of schedule they have made great time.
Nearly close now.
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From Rosslare Coffeedock Instagram
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Stena Vision on berth 2 now in Rosslare Harbour with Pelican of London on Berth 1.
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Some stunning drone images of the Vision from this morning, posted on Flickr
https://www.flickr.com/photos/198342114@N06/albums/72177720309147024?fbclid=IwAR2MPS5C__snq0KJajjBoIPPPizcHVHYVu4KsIwty_TUCzwQ2Fz8MD6iTzA
Wonderful to see these investments being made in connectivity. It's not that long ago when there was no winter roll-on between Ireland and france.
Stena has really made inroads into this business. Bravo.
Quote from: Ferriesbetterfastercheape on June 17, 2023, 03:52:58 PMThinkable future option:
Stena replace Horizon with Spirit, Nordica replace Spirit in Karlskrona, Horizon replace Europe.
Nordica is/was too small for Fishguard (Pax-capacity), Horizon has with 900 Pax much more pax-capacity for Fishguard than Nordica with 630 only.
And on the important booming Ireland-France route Stena has the most cabins to offer and 2 very old big ferries brings still a lot of money there.
Nordica is small - but as 3rd ferry in Karlskrona big enough. Europe scrap / sell in 2024.
A couple of points here...
There is a need for a vessel on the Rosslare-Cherbourg route with open deck stowage space for hazardous goods as well as the certification to carry livestock which is a significant trade on the route. The Horizon fulfils both these roles, a ship like Vision or Spirit wouldn't suffice for the purpose of hazardous and livestock shipments.
Secondly, Nordica has more than sufficient capacity for the Fishguard route. Stena Line is a company of huge knowledge and experience and they would not place a ship on the route that was unsuitable or too small.
Image below posted on the Stena Fanatics Facebook page this evening by Stephen Corish, stunning images of the Europe, Horizon and Vision in Rosslare harbour together today.
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A short behind the scenes video on the soon to be Irish Sea regular Stena Nordica.
Produced by SRC Group who carried out the interior rebuild at the shipyard in Gdańsk.
https://youtu.be/1mLELD0TJSw
Nordica on the way back to the Irish Sea to cover for Estrid, currently at 24 + knts passing the Isle of Wight, great to see it using the speed.
Also think Nordica has been updated on booking engine now with Europe removed, got an email this morning welcoming to the Nordica for our next crossing in September
" Welcome to the Irish Sea, Stena Nordica!
Stena Nordica is getting ready to set sail on our Rosslare – Fishguard route from July! Fully refurbished with a stylish new look, but with the friendly faces, caring crew members and same great service you know and love.
Join us on board and you'll find the Stena Plus Lounge, our relaxing Hygge Recline Lounge, The Living Room, two Movie Lounges, top-tier Duty Free shopping and great food & drink options. There's truly something for everyone – including pet-friendly cabins for your four-legged friends.
From just €165 single car & driver, you'll be among the first to experience Stena Nordica as she sets sail between Rosslare & Fishguard this July. Want a quick glimpse of what's waiting for you on board? Click through below for a drone's eye view!"
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Is there any word on what the future of the Europe will be? Is she heading to Northern European route or sold? No spring chicken she is but there's life in the old girl, isn't there?!
Don't think there has been any confirmation of the Europes next role, was previously advertised as an accommodation vessel by Bridgemans, (no longer on website but they do have the former Stena Saga as a Flotel)
https://www.bridgemans-services.com/workforce-accommodations/mv-saga/
Other rumours of service in the med and quite a lot of talk going to Falmouth after service is finished on the Rosslare route which could be for a repaint removing Stena branding, this could be delayed depending on what it wrong with the Estrid and how long the repairs will take.
Stena Vision is to make its first departure this afternoon for Cherbourg, presumably a freight run to test everything out before the passenger service starts at the end of next week.
Also Nordica is making great time coming back to cover the Estrid, just off the coast of South Wales this morning at a more sedate 19.7 knts, they were over 26 knts at one stage by the Isle of Wight
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Stena Estrid is heading for Liverpool now. Departs Dublin with two tugboats.
SEATRUCK PANORAMA is set to finish operating on the Rosslare Europort to Cherbourg route at the end of the week when STENA VISION enters full service from Friday evening.
According to the Stena Line live freight timetable, 'Panorama is due to provide backup freight assistance between Holyhead and Dublin next week. She will sail from Holyhead at 11:00hrs and from Dublin at 17:15hrs, currently from Monday 3rd July until Friday 7th July.
She is then due to relieve the Belfast to Heysham vessels, STENA SCOTIA and STENA HIBERNIA for their scheduled dry dock periods.
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2023/0630/1391889-stena-vision-joins-rosslare-to-cherbourg-route/ (https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2023/0630/1391889-stena-vision-joins-rosslare-to-cherbourg-route/)
Small article on rte today. Unconfirmed how much was paid by via a barter account for the endorsement though lol
Vision just leaving Rosslare for its first passenger sailing to France with Europe just outside the port.
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On the RTÉ news, more info on tonight's departure
https://www.rte.ie/news/regional/2023/0630/1392099-stena-vision/
Incl info from Captain Boyce.
Stena Line promo video for today's sailing
https://youtu.be/pVp7A0t504w
Does anyone have an further update on Estrid?
Whats the actual tech snag?
Estrid due back from Cammel Laird on Tuesday week.
Stena Vision arriving into Rosslare this morning on its first passenger carrying service from Cherbourg
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Just seen this report on RTE about a man who fell overboard Stena Supervast VIII in Cairnryan yesterday evening.
https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2023/0702/1392278-ferry/
Baltic Sea last Thursday Stena Spirit, is there a fleet-wide security issue?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/polish-mother-son-7-dead-after-plunging-baltic-sea-ferry-2023-06-30/
Quote from: archer on July 02, 2023, 04:01:03 PMBaltic Sea last Thursday Stena Spirit, is there a fleet-wide security issue?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/polish-mother-son-7-dead-after-plunging-baltic-sea-ferry-2023-06-30/
Don't think so, statements in the press and online indicate that this was not a "fall" overboard. Stena Spirit onboard cameras apparently captured the incident.
Coupe of images of the freshly painted Estrid in drydock on these links
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53016943909/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53017264633/
Other images (cannot find a way to post link ) showed the underwater anti fouling removed and stripped back to bare metal, so getting a full repaint under the tarpaulins.
Quote from: archer on July 02, 2023, 04:01:03 PMBaltic Sea last Thursday Stena Spirit, is there a fleet-wide security issue?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/polish-mother-son-7-dead-after-plunging-baltic-sea-ferry-2023-06-30/
I'm not clear what you mean by this statement? It is nigh-on impossible to accidentally "fall" overboard from a ferry given the height of the railings on deck. There is only so much companies and ship's crews can do to mitigate such events but you can never totally prevent them if someone is determined to go overboard or if they are fooling around.
Two cases in five days at one company, three deaths?
Nice article here on the Stena Vision
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/wexford-district/dream-voyage-of-wexford-man-sean-boyce-from-sea-crazed-kid-to-rosslare-cruise-ferry-captain/a784185092.html
Quote from: archer on July 03, 2023, 07:28:52 PMTwo cases in five days at one company, three deaths?
Sorry to have to report this but apparently the mother threw the child into the sea and jumped in herself afterwards, being investigated as a murder suicide, not sure how you blame the ferry operator for this.
https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2023-07-03-danish-accident-commission-concludes-%E2%80%93-no-accident-in-the-fall-from-the-poland-ferry.r1mQJIUxK2.html
https://news.sky.com/story/deaths-of-polish-mother-and-seven-year-old-son-after-falling-off-ferry-not-an-accident-12914205
https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/mother-and-child-ferry-deaths-no-accident-say-investigators-39616
Quote from: archer on July 03, 2023, 07:28:52 PMTwo cases in five days at one company, three deaths?
The reality is you simply cannot "fall" overboard from a ferry. The railings on deck are too high for that.
I'm not sure how you can blame any company or cite a security issue if someone is determined to climb the railings, throw someone in or jump in themselves.
Mod note:I don't like where this discussion is going around these accidents. These incidents have left families grieving, and crews trying to deal with a truly difficult situation.
I have no problem with people reporting items like this (and the MCIB or other reports), but can I'd rather we avoided speculation around what happened here.
Quote from: Kieran on July 05, 2023, 02:00:12 PMMod note:I don't like where this discussion is going around these accidents. These incidents have left families grieving, and crews trying to deal with a truly difficult situation.
I have no problem with people reporting items like this (and the MCIB or other reports), but can I'd rather we avoided speculation around what happened here.
Fair point and I agree. As someone who has worked extensively in the ferry industry both onboard the ships and ashore, I am fully aware of the steps taken by companies and crews to mitigate and try to prevent such incidents. I do, however, object to people trying to cite institutional problems in the ferry company for causing these sad and very tragic events.
Stena Nordica has now appeared on the live timetable for Rosslare Fishguard, it looks like the Europes last crossing is the 14.00 from Fishguard on the 13th of July, with the Nordica taking over on the 19.30 sailing to Fishguard.
I would assume they now know when the Estrid will return (expected back on Tuesday with the 20.30 crossing from Holyhead to Dublin).
This is I think the first time a new permanent vessel has started sailings from Rosslare normally the changeover takes place in Fishguard. Depending on the immediate plans for the Europe you could have four Stena Line vessels in Rosslare if the Europe does not immediately depart for its rumoured drydock appointment in Falmouth.
These are the last days of service for a magnificent ferry which has provided great service on the route for 21 years, thank you to the crew who bring the metal, carpet and laminate wood alive and have given us many memorable trips over the years and welcome to the Stena Nordica which I look forward to sailing on again in the future.
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Quick trip to Rosslare last Monday. Arrived just in time to catch Europe arriving from Fishguard and get to photograph her for (probably) the last time. Loved sailing on her and on her sister Normandy.
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Great images as always, thanks for sharing.
For anyone interested there are over 200 of my pics of Europe from 2005 to date in this album https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAt9zo (https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjAt9zo)
Looks like Estrid is coming back into service tonight after its drydrocking and repaint.
Interestingly it looks like Adventurer is going to miss one rotation with the Nordica covering its sailings tomorrow from Dublin in the morning @ 08.15 and from Holyhead at 14.45 before the Nordica departs to replace the Europe.
Quote from: giftgrub on July 11, 2023, 07:11:57 PMLooks like Estrid is coming back into service tonight after its drydrocking and repaint.
Interestingly it looks like Adventurer is going to miss one rotation with the Nordica covering its sailings tomorrow from Dublin in the morning @ 08.15 and from Holyhead at 14.45 before the Nordica departs to replace the Europe.
Adventurer has MES tomorrow I believe
The Stena Europe has less than 24 hours of service on the Rosslare Fishguard route to serve and is now due in Falmouth on July 15th at 00.30 for a visit to the drydock.
Looks like after the changeover with the Stena Nordica tomorrow the Europe will be sailing off to pastures new.
Nordica due to arrive Rosslare @ 09:15 this morning. Scheduled for the 19:30 departure.
Stena have comfirmed the future of the Nordica on the Sailing Updates page along with a small tribute to the vessel. No news on the opperator but could be either AML or Balearia as both have ex Stena Vessels, unlikely to be Trasmediterránea as they seem to prefer newer vessels.
"The Port of Fishguard bids a fond farewell today to Stena Europe, her final sailing to Rosslare is at 14:00 hrs on Thursday 13th July 2023. She then departs for Falmouth for dry-dock before picking up a charter on the Gibraltar Straits between Spain and Morocco.
The Stena Nordica takes up the service this evening from Rosslare at 19:30 hrs. The daily departure times from Fishguard are 01:30 and 14:00 hrs, and the departure times from Rosslare are 08:15 and 19:30 hrs.
A massive thanks to Stena Europe and all her crew, past and present, for serving the route so well. "
Europe is finally arriving in Falmouth having travelled at about 5 knts (so slow was wondering had it gone technical) since leaving Rosslare on Friday morning.
It should be visible on the Falmouth Harbour webcam as it comes into the port, link below.
https://www.falmouthharbour.co.uk/maritime-and-leisure/webcam/
Very nice update on the Stena Europe from NIFERRY including a lovely video from Stena Line featuring some of the crew past and present and passengers.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-europe-bows-out-of-fishguard-to-rosslare-service/?_gl=1*wbj00s*_ga*MTY0MDI4NjEwNi4xNjg5MzY2MDc0*_ga_82JZFZNBGK*MTY4OTQ1MDIxMy4yLjAuMTY4OTQ1MDIxNS41OC4wLjA.&_ga=2.91070546.970375731.1689366074-1640286106.1689366074
Stena Europe now in Falmouth harbour (not in drydock yet) image from the webcam.
Stena Superfast VII had a small generator room fire this morning.
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/emergency-services-respond-as-fire-breaks-out-on-stena-line-ferry-docked-in-belfast/a535560958.html
Quote from: Futureskipper on July 19, 2023, 08:40:11 PMStena Superfast VII had a small generator room fire this morning.
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/emergency-services-respond-as-fire-breaks-out-on-stena-line-ferry-docked-in-belfast/a535560958.html
Because of above
Rosslare Fishguard sailing's suspended, all passengers automatically transferred to Oscar Wilde, Nordica on way to Belfast now to cover for Superfast.
Fishguard gets shafted less than a week into the new Nordica era, even with most of the 14.00 sailings ex Fishguard sold out for the next few weeks.
In other news Europe has been reflagged today and moved within Falmouth harbour.
Europe in its new location in Falmouth, putting out some smoke.
Some rumours on the Facebook that Europe is heading back to Rosslare to cover the Nordica, based on AIS showing Rosslare as destination, but nothing in planned vessel movements for Europe at the moment.
(Also timing on Marine Traffic shows 4 hours for Falmouth to Rosslare, unless they have been fitting gas turbines from the HSS this week, not a chance of it making that time)
https://www.falmouthharbour.co.uk/shipping-and-harbour-operations/shipping-movements/
Great article on the Europe
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/wexford-district/rosslare-bids-farewell-to-stena-europe-after-21-years-and-27456-trips-carrying-over-7-million-passengers/a100064483.html
Not so great on the Nordicas swift transfer to Belfast
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/wexford-district/ferry-passengers-plans-thrown-into-chaos-as-stenas-rosslare-to-fishguard-service-suspended/a699912214.html
Lovely image of the Stena Europe in Falmouth with the bow doors open on this link
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33847785@N00/53061523789/
Stena Nordica currently scheduled to depart Belfast for Rosslare this evening according to Belfast Harbour Vessel Movements site
Currently scheduled to take up service from Rosslare in the morning according to the Stena Line freight timetable.
Nordica on the way home at last, due into Rosslare in the morning.
Looks like Stena Europe will be off to pastures new very soon, due to depart Falmouth for Gibraltar on Sunday morning according to Falmouth vessel movements page.
https://www.falmouthharbour.co.uk/shipping-and-harbour-operations/shipping-movements/
This could be the final day for the Europe in Falmouth, interestingly they have not touched the paintwork while in Falmouth, so still fully Stena Branded on the outside and the usual streaks on the paintwork.
Webcam on this link
https://www.falmouthharbour.co.uk/maritime-and-leisure/webcam/
Stena Europe leaving Falmouth this morning
Stena Europe now on the Intershipping timetable from Friday, alongside the Stena Vinga. they just got the name wrong on the page.
https://www.intershipping.ma/website/home
Quote from: giftgrub on August 06, 2023, 07:29:37 AMStena Europe now on the Intershipping timetable from Friday, alongside the Stena Vinga. they just got the name wrong on the page.
https://www.intershipping.ma/website/home
STENA VINGA's charter expires mid-August.
Stena Europe has cleared the Bay of Biscay and is just off the coast of Spain this morning
The lack of Stena on the wales route whilst the adventurer was being repaired at the end of July puts and end to the hyperbole of under capacity on the southern route.
It probably shows how overcapacity the route is.
Quote from: jpwoodh on August 07, 2023, 09:04:20 PMThe lack of Stena on the wales route whilst the adventurer was being repaired at the end of July puts and end to the hyperbole of under capacity on the southern route.
It probably shows how overcapacity the route is.
It was SFVII that was being repaired at the end of last month.
Europe has arrived at its new home port.
Stena Europe due to enter service on Saturday morning at 01.30.
Some images posted on the Facebook show not a drop of paint was applied in Falmouth or any elbow grease cleaner to the outside of the hull !
Also Intershipping have photoshopped another image of the Europe
And finally a very nice tribute posted on YouTube
https://youtu.be/Kess0qBZTH0
Just spotted on the images from Facebook above, the Europe has had its stern ramps restored to the previous full length, removed in Falmouth a few years ago. Obviously give greater distance to ramp or linkspan.
Stena Europe sailings now rescheduled until 14th @ 09.30
https://www.intershipping.ma/website/user/time_table
STENA SCOTIA has left dry dock (for the second time) and will swap places with STENA HIBERNIA at Heysham, to allow the Hibernia to go for her own overhaul at Cammell Laird.
Scotia's first sailing back is the next departure to Belfast (Sunday evening).
SFVII in need of repair again, bow thruster problems means she requires tug assistance to berth in both ports. Hasn't been a good season for her
Europe now rescheduled to the 19th at 01.30. strange to have this many delays and dont think it has done any berthing trials yet, moved over the weekend but no sign of it starting service.
Quote from: giftgrub on August 15, 2023, 02:41:22 PMEurope now rescheduled to the 19th at 01.30. strange to have this many delays and dont think it has done any berthing trials yet, moved over the weekend but no sign of it starting service.
moved out to the 23rd now, must be some issue preventing the start of service.
Europe is on the move at last, looks more positive.
Quote from: giftgrub on August 18, 2023, 08:11:52 PMEurope is on the move at last, looks more positive.
Trials at Tanger Med.
Stena Europe has entered service for Intershipping overnight, images posted on the Stena Fanantics Facebook by Karl-Olof Svensson show the Europe in very different surroundings.
Looks like lots of movement w/c 6th Sept on Irish Sea with horizon moving Dublin and estrid to belfast
Quote from: Cladyman on August 27, 2023, 10:02:59 AMLooks like lots of movement w/c 6th Sept on Irish Sea with horizon moving Dublin and estrid to belfast
Would assume this is to release the Superfast VII for repairs to the generator that went last month and was the cause of the Nordica being pulled off service after a week on the Fishguard run.
Unconfirmed reports on the Facebook that they need to cut into the hull to remove the damaged generator and install a new one, so will be a few days work involved.
Good news for Fishguard that Nordica has been left on the route, (very selfishly for me as two crossings booked in Sept and October)
Quote from: Cladyman on August 27, 2023, 10:02:59 AMLooks like lots of movement w/c 6th Sept on Irish Sea with horizon moving Dublin and estrid to belfast
Strange timing with the rugby world cup starting that weekend. I thought they would have been heavily booked.
Last departure for France is showing as 02/09 and the next one isn't until 11/09.
Edit: I see that Vision is on the timetable for these dates. So must be fully booked out or just removed at the moment to allow Stena transfer bookings from Horizon.
It is anticipated that STENA HORIZON is to head to Holyhead to cover for STENA ESTRID for around a week.
STENA ESTRID is believed to be relieving STENA SUPERFAST VII to allow repairs to be carried out to resolve her generator/bow thruster issues.
It looks to be taking place from around 5th September and I assume the booking engines and online schedules are in the process of being updated.
I'm not 100% sure but the generator issue has been suggested to be located in an auxiliary generator which is located on deck 10 aft of the bridge.
Quote from: scomac on August 28, 2023, 06:26:32 PMIt is anticipated that STENA HORIZON is to head to Holyhead to cover for STENA ESTRID for around a week.
STENA ESTRID is believed to be relieving STENA SUPERFAST VII to allow repairs to be carried out to resolve her generator/bow thruster issues.
It looks to be taking place from around 5th September and I assume the booking engines and online schedules are in the process of being updated.
I'm not 100% sure but the generator issue has been suggested to be located in an auxiliary generator which is located on deck 10 aft of the bridge.
Details confirmed as follows on the Stena Line UKIE live freight timetable:
ESTRID on Cairnryan-Belfast from 0330 ex LRP on Tues 05/09 until last sailing 2300 ex LRP on Sun 10/09.
HORIZON on Holyhead-Dublin from 2030 ex Holyhead on Mon 04/09 until last sailing 2030 ex Dub on Sun 10/09.
HORIZON's final sailing Cherbourg-Rosslare is Sun 03/09, arriving Rosslare 04/09. Resumes Rosslare-Cherbourg Tue 12/09.
In a statement to NI Ferry Site, Stena Line has confirmed its interest in operating from Liverpool to Dublin.
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-confirms-interest-in-liverpool-to-dublin-ferry-route/?fbclid=IwAR0cHKSBN-Dx7Ptz-5sLcBaYNxaXfzWdiuyYYCLTd5e0e3mMOsd1mttYqNA_aem_AdZGuWpbxN57Vw3FHEMzXFWWAq8EesYDiSFRKF6l-SyniRNcn1-_18SuIEoTK3Ruwb4
I think it's highly likely, initially at least, if they do go ahead and take the route on, it'll be a pure RoRo service.
Stena are really expanding fast on the Irish routes. It's fantastic to see such investment in a modern fleet.
I would hope for a passenger service on the route - one can dream that it's timed to connect with the evening Hull - Rotterdam service - that would be a fantastic and efficient road bridge to Northern Europe.
Quote from: jpwoodh on August 30, 2023, 06:54:39 PMStena are really expanding fast on the Irish routes. It's fantastic to see such investment in a modern fleet.
I would hope for a passenger service on the route - one can dream that it's timed to connect with the evening Hull - Rotterdam service - that would be a fantastic and efficient road bridge to Northern Europe.
By operating a passenger service from Birkenhead to Dublin, I suspect they risk harming their Holyhead to Dublin route.
They are probably trying to ensure DFDS doesn't take up the route - DFDS has made a number of tactical acquisitions in the Irish market over the last 18 months that could see them being interested in providing their own freight capacity to the UK.
I'm not sure how well their Rosslare -> Dunkirk market is performing as they've reduced frequency from their first six months on the route - however it's now on their own metal rather than shortish term charters.
All the suggestions in the industry point towards Stena using a single RoRo vessel on the route if they take it on.
Quote from: jpwoodh on August 31, 2023, 10:06:42 AMThey are probably trying to ensure DFDS doesn't take up the route - DFDS has made a number of tactical acquisitions in the Irish market over the last 18 months that could see them being interested in providing their own freight capacity to the UK.
I'm not sure how well their Rosslare -> Dunkirk market is performing as they've reduced frequency from their first six months on the route - however it's now on their own metal rather than shortish term charters.
I believe the Regnia Seaways is in need of repairs after suffering storm damage in the recent storm as she is heading to Klaipeda.
Quote from: scomac on September 01, 2023, 09:54:53 AMAll the suggestions in the industry point towards Stena using a single RoRo vessel on the route if they take it on.
I thought about that as a viability but really hard to see how the route would be useful with a subsequently sparce timetable
SEATRUCK PANORAMA has concluded her charter with Stena Line and resumed service with Seatruck today.
Horizon and Estrid swapped yesterday evening and overnight, Estrid and Superfast VII swapped over, VII now on the layby berth in Cairnryan where the Estrid had its engine work done a few years ago, might not need to go to drydock for repairs.
STENA HORIZON moved from Rosslare to Holyhead yesterday and took over with a 2030 sailing to Dublin.
This released STENA ESTRID and she proceeded to Loch Ryan to take over from STENA SUPERFAST VII with an 0300 departure from Cairnryan this morning.
'Estrid is actually on STENA SUPERFAST VIII's schedule. She will remain on the route until Sunday when her final sailing is a scheduled 1100 ex Belfast. She is due to resume at Holyhead with the 0900 sailing on Monday. Horizon is expected to be back at Rosslare for her sailing to France on Tuesday of next week.
STENA SUPERFAST VII is alongside the lay-by berth at Loch Ryan Port for repairs.
Quote from: giftgrub on September 05, 2023, 08:08:33 AMHorizon and Estrid swapped yesterday evening and overnight, Estrid and Superfast VII swapped over, VII now on the layby berth in Cairnryan where the Estrid had its engine work done a few years ago, might not need to go to drydock for repairs.
SUPERFAST VII does not require dry docking. I'm told the problematic generator is on deck 10 aft of the bridge.
Quote from: scomac on September 05, 2023, 08:45:42 AMQuote from: giftgrub on September 05, 2023, 08:08:33 AMHorizon and Estrid swapped yesterday evening and overnight, Estrid and Superfast VII swapped over, VII now on the layby berth in Cairnryan where the Estrid had its engine work done a few years ago, might not need to go to drydock for repairs.
SUPERFAST VII does not require dry docking. I'm told the problematic generator is on deck 10 aft of the bridge.
That would be the emergency generator which has only recently had work done to it post fire. So something does not add up here as it would never be used to power the bow thruster or are the two unrelated but can both be fixed now?
Quote from: shipbiulder101 on September 06, 2023, 07:03:56 PMQuote from: scomac on September 05, 2023, 08:45:42 AMQuote from: giftgrub on September 05, 2023, 08:08:33 AMHorizon and Estrid swapped yesterday evening and overnight, Estrid and Superfast VII swapped over, VII now on the layby berth in Cairnryan where the Estrid had its engine work done a few years ago, might not need to go to drydock for repairs.
SUPERFAST VII does not require dry docking. I'm told the problematic generator is on deck 10 aft of the bridge.
That would be the emergency generator which has only recently had work done to it post fire. So something does not add up here as it would never be used to power the bow thruster or are the two unrelated but can both be fixed now?
I'm only going on what I was told but I assume there is more to it. There was also reference to problems with the shaft generator and diesel alternator. Those are all the details I have but the fire was definitely in the emergency generator on deck 10.
Just back from a very nice trip on the Nordica and we were passed by the Vision leaving Rosslare for Cherbourg this evening.
Reports online from Italian sources that the RoRo vessel FRIJSENBORG is to be sold to Stena.
It is believed she will be renamed STENA FORWARDER and placed on the Belfast-Birkenhead route in place of STENA FORETELLER as she is due to join STENA FORERUNNER on the Harwich-Rotterdam route.
Quote from: scomac on September 30, 2023, 09:44:58 AMReports online from Italian sources that the RoRo vessel FRIJSENBORG is to be sold to Stena.
It is believed she will be renamed STENA FORWARDER and placed on the Belfast-Birkenhead route in place of STENA FORETELLER as she is due to join STENA FORERUNNER on the Harwich-Rotterdam route.
Thanks for posting the update, Wonder will they remove the cranes from the deck before it enters service.
https://www.naos-design.com/projects/p343/
https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3607200?navList=gallery&perPage=12&page=1&shipName=FRIJSENBORG&shipNameSearchMode=begins&viewType=normal&sortBy=newest
Quote from: giftgrub on September 30, 2023, 10:57:22 AMQuote from: scomac on September 30, 2023, 09:44:58 AMReports online from Italian sources that the RoRo vessel FRIJSENBORG is to be sold to Stena.
It is believed she will be renamed STENA FORWARDER and placed on the Belfast-Birkenhead route in place of STENA FORETELLER as she is due to join STENA FORERUNNER on the Harwich-Rotterdam route.
Thanks for posting the update, Wonder will they remove the cranes from the deck before it enters service.
https://www.naos-design.com/projects/p343/
https://www.shipspotting.com/photos/3607200?navList=gallery&perPage=12&page=1&shipName=FRIJSENBORG&shipNameSearchMode=begins&viewType=normal&sortBy=newest
She looks like a frieght version of the standard Vesenti RoPax design which is not suprrising given she is a Visenti vessel probably the exact same hull form and machinery layout.
Looks like the Nordica is being pulled from the Rosslare service again to cover the Belfast route, got a text our crossing on Sunday is going to be on the Oscar Wilde.
Image below from the freight timetable
https://www.stenalinefreight.com/timetable/BECN
Nordica sailings now cancelled on timetable, heading North to cover
Quote from: giftgrub on October 05, 2023, 02:16:04 PMNordica sailings now cancelled on timetable, heading North to cover
SUPERFAST VIII needs a stern tube seal replaced, I believe... out of service for approx 5 days or so.
All change again, apparently Nordica will be sailing from Rosslare on Sunday morning!
*UPDATE* 1945hrs - Problem with Superfast VIII is sorted so Nordica not going to Belfast now.
Video vlog on the Stena Vision Ireland France
https://youtu.be/p7vXJ1jjVSA?si=F9E5ormVHEIer_KI
Video of the Stena Vision alongside in Fishguard today carrying out berthing trials
https://youtu.be/_eUPDxBl5IQ?si=L9H6AIpHWDn5PmL7
Quote from: scomac on September 30, 2023, 09:44:58 AMReports online from Italian sources that the RoRo vessel FRIJSENBORG is to be sold to Stena.
It is believed she will be renamed STENA FORWARDER and placed on the Belfast-Birkenhead route in place of STENA FORETELLER as she is due to join STENA FORERUNNER on the Harwich-Rotterdam route.
Any more news about this?
Her AIS is turned off for 6days.
Quote from: giftgrub on August 10, 2023, 07:25:58 PMStena Europe due to enter service on Saturday morning at 01.30.
Some images posted on the Facebook show not a drop of paint was applied in Falmouth or any elbow grease cleaner to the outside of the hull !
Also Intershipping have photoshopped another image of the Europe
And finally a very nice tribute posted on YouTube
https://youtu.be/Kess0qBZTH0
The route is closed. Timetable is removed from intershipping.ma
Stena Vinga is expected to take up run at Gothenburg-Frederikshavn at Sunday 22.october. From Stena Freight timetable.
Quote from: boathansm on October 10, 2023, 08:32:07 PMQuote from: scomac on September 30, 2023, 09:44:58 AMReports online from Italian sources that the RoRo vessel FRIJSENBORG is to be sold to Stena.
It is believed she will be renamed STENA FORWARDER and placed on the Belfast-Birkenhead route in place of STENA FORETELLER as she is due to join STENA FORERUNNER on the Harwich-Rotterdam route.
Any more news about this?
Her AIS is turned off for 6days.
Still happening, I assume work is being done to the ship or she is awaiting handing over to Stena.
Quote from: boathansm on October 10, 2023, 08:57:27 PMQuote from: giftgrub on August 10, 2023, 07:25:58 PMStena Europe due to enter service on Saturday morning at 01.30.
Some images posted on the Facebook show not a drop of paint was applied in Falmouth or any elbow grease cleaner to the outside of the hull !
Also Intershipping have photoshopped another image of the Europe
And finally a very nice tribute posted on YouTube
https://youtu.be/Kess0qBZTH0
The route is closed. Timetable is removed from intershipping.ma
Stena Vinga is expected to take up run at Gothenburg-Frederikshavn at Sunday 22.october. From Stena Freight timetable.
Stena Europe and Stena Vinga were chartered for Operation Marhaba which finished on 15th Sept
Frijsenborg has been renamed Stena Forwarder today.
Quote from: scomac on October 18, 2023, 05:53:44 PMFrijsenborg has been renamed Stena Forwarder today.
She is heading for Belfast now.
Stena Europe has finished service for Intershipping since the middle of September and moved during the week to an anchorage near Gibraltar. One wonders what is next ?
In the meantime found some nice images on Flickr of the Europe in the Mediterranean Sunshine
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186652515@N04/53260988799/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186652515@N04/53253642024/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186652515@N04/53253642024/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186652515@N04/53229333765/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186652515@N04/53227411379/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186652515@N04/53152097602/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/186652515@N04/53150352878/
Can not see any further route-operation for Stena Europe and Stena Saga.
Maybe they will hold these ships further in stand-by for next summer-season - or they will send them to scrap in 2024 if also no offer as accomodation-ship is coming.
Similar with the old URD and GOTHICA.
Stena Nordica which has been out of action for a week due to technical difficulties made a crossing to Fishguard last night (was showing as cancelled on the timetable) so possibly sailed empty. Hopefully all is now fixed.
Stena Europe moved this morning and now alongside the Gibraltar cruise terminal.
Europe moved back to the Anchorage early this morning, trip to Gibraltar was for crew change and supplies according to reports.
Nordica is currently due to return to service this afternoon, hopefully they have the issue that has kept it out of action fixed.
Don't know who he does it but A2Bviasea Vlogger was at sea during Storm Debbi on the Stena Edda, nice short video here of the Edda riding the waves from Birkenhead to Belfast.
https://youtu.be/UrHb9sJMwT4?si=7BOuNwridFI0XHlu
Not often I say this but rather him than me !
Nordica was cancelled again, quite a poor reliability record for the Nordica since it replaced the Europe on the Southern Corridor service when the weather is bad, wonder is it a technical reason to do with the Nordica or an issue with getting into Fishguard /Rosslare which is causing these issues.
Nordica running late tonight has crossed from Fishguard to Rosslare in 2hr 36 minutes, not too shabby.
First video link Posted on Ferry Forum originally
This is a great view of the Stena Vision riding the waves last week, can see the pounding the bow doors take in the rough weather no wonder they welded them shut.
https://youtu.be/gEtQ5ziVIhM?si=4JYRkHqhq0MzJALE
And A2B has posted his Edda Vlog
https://youtu.be/7f7NMa6XkCo?si=fdai1Sa0PaW0D3Wb
Filming took place during Storm Debi
There's a 3 page article on the history of Stena Vision in the December issue of Ships Monthly.
Stena Europe is heading back to UK due into Falmouth at the weekend Dec 3rd !!!
Quote from: giftgrub on November 28, 2023, 06:29:25 PMStena Europe is heading back to UK due into Falmouth at the weekend Dec 3rd !!!
Any news why this happen?
Quote from: boathansm on November 28, 2023, 07:55:14 PMQuote from: giftgrub on November 28, 2023, 06:29:25 PMStena Europe is heading back to UK due into Falmouth at the weekend Dec 3rd !!!
Any news why this happen?
Lots of unconfirmed rumours that going to return to Rosslare Fishguard to release Stena Nordica in January to cover fleet refits, nothing official.
Has only sailed commercially for a month since leaving Rosslare route in July, would imagine plenty of work required in drydock to get back up to speed, also given rumours of new Liverpool Dublin service, no point leaving it sitting in the Med doing nothing.
Quote from: giftgrub on November 28, 2023, 06:29:25 PMStena Europe is heading back to UK due into Falmouth at the weekend Dec 3rd !!!
Of all the surprised we have had this year, Stena Europe coming back has to be the least expected!
Quote from: Kieran on November 28, 2023, 09:29:45 PMQuote from: giftgrub on November 28, 2023, 06:29:25 PMStena Europe is heading back to UK due into Falmouth at the weekend Dec 3rd !!!
Of all the surprised we have had this year, Stena Europe coming back has to be the least expected!
Sure is, nothing official and it might be going to be converted to an accommodation vessel for someone like Bridgemans,
https://bridgemans-services.com/floatels/
However it would kind of make sense to have it available and allow Nordica to provide cover instead of Vinga.
First refit rumours were Vinga to release Nordica, to replace Estrid to allow Estrid to cover Birkenhead - Belfast twins, with Horizon going to Harwich to cover Britannica and Hollandica, leaving Rosslare - Cherbourg as a single vessel route for month with Vision.
Quote from: giftgrub on November 29, 2023, 08:16:34 AMSure is, nothing official and it might be going to be converted to an accommodation vessel for someone like Bridgemans,
https://bridgemans-services.com/floatels/
However it would kind of make sense to have it available and allow Nordica to provide cover instead of Vinga.
First refit rumours were Vinga to release Nordica, to replace Estrid to allow Estrid to cover Birkenhead - Belfast twins, with Horizon going to Harwich to cover Britannica and Hollandica, leaving Rosslare - Cherbourg as a single vessel route for month with Vision.
Rumours says Stena Europe will step in for Stena Nordica in mid of January in 2-3months.
The jack-up rig need be modified like another ship can step in for Nordica.
Europe is due to go into drydock Number 2 on Sunday according to vessel movements for Falmouth harbour.
Europe has been at anchor near Vigo since yesterday morning, thought it might be sheltering but went for a short spin today and back at anchor, will have to get a move on at full speed if it is going to be in Falmouth on Sunday evening, still showing on Falmouth harbour arrivals.
https://www.falmouthharbour.co.uk/shipping-and-harbour-operations/shipping-movements/
Europe on the way this morning
Europe has crossed the Bay of Biscay next stop Falmouth.
Europe now due into Falmouth earlier than planned at 15.00 today.
Might be visible on webcam
https://www.falmouthharbour.co.uk/maritime-and-leisure/webcam/
Europe has arrived in Falmouth visible on webcams
https://www.harbourlights.co.uk/webcam/
https://www.falmouthharbour.co.uk/maritime-and-leisure/webcam/
Scheduled into drydock on the 5th
Europe now in drydock, visible on far right of webcam image.
Stena Horizon taking a very different route to Cherbourg tonight, one assumes to minimise the effect of the weather.
First image of Europe currently in drydock number 2 in Falmouth at the end of this link below
https://www.doverferryphotosforums.co.uk/mv-stena-europe-past-and-present/
Reports on the Facebook seem to confirm a new service for Stena Line which from mid February will commence operations on a Dublin - Birkenhead operation, sailing morning from Dublin and evening from Birkenhead, apparently freight only and one vessel to start with.
Given that P&O had a four ship service until very recently, it has to be expected that a two ship service could work for this. No vessel(s) confirmed for this service yet.
Some images of the Europe in drydock taken yesterday
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33847785@N00/53383906193/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33847785@N00/53382808612/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33847785@N00/53384164425/
Quote from: giftgrub on December 08, 2023, 08:42:21 PMReports on the Facebook seem to confirm a new service for Stena Line which from mid February will commence operations on a Dublin - Birkenhead operation, sailing morning from Dublin and evening from Birkenhead, apparently freight only and one vessel to start with.
Given that P&O had a four ship service until very recently, it has to be expected that a two ship service could work for this. No vessel(s) confirmed for this service yet.
It is very likely/possible the ship in question will be something along the lines of Stena Gothica or Urd.
Quote from: giftgrub on December 09, 2023, 09:09:50 AMSome images of the Europe in drydock taken yesterday
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33847785@N00/53383906193/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33847785@N00/53382808612/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33847785@N00/53384164425/
It is believed Stena Europe will operate Rosslare-Fishguard from around 4/1/24 to release Stena Nordica to cover for Stena Horizon. The Horizon is timetabled to be on the Harwich-Hoek van Holland route from 8/1/24 to 10/2/24.
Sure having the Europe back will go down popular with the locals...
That's a huge downgrade from the Stena Britannica, which must be one of the best ships in the Stena uk bound fleet.
Quote from: jpwoodh on December 10, 2023, 07:24:59 AMThat's a huge downgrade from the Stena Britannica, which must be one of the best ships in the Stena uk bound fleet.
It's refit cover in the off season, there aren't any 500 cabin, 5000Lm monsters just hanging about to be pressed into temporary service.
Horizon is probably the best option they had, I seem to recall they cancelled one of the passenger sailing rotations in some years while both Britannica and Hollandica were off.
Assuming that there will be cover needed for some of the Irish sea fleet as well this year, Europe could well be back at Rosslare for a few months.
Europe currently scheduled to leave drydock late on the 15th December
In the words of a famous movie - The Bitch is Back.
The Stena Europe is now available to book on Rosslare - Fishguard from Jan 7th.
As they say, plus ca change...
I still think the Europe is heading to Irish Ferries - she could practically sail itself into Rosslare at this stage.
Quote from: jpwoodh on December 15, 2023, 12:41:58 AMAs they say, plus ca change...
I still think the Europe is heading to Irish Ferries - she could practically sail itself into Rosslare at this stage.
No she isn't. Oscar will be staying at Rosslare until March from what I hear until Atlantic Vision becomes avilable
Dublin Birkenhead
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2023/1215/1422089-stena-line-adds-dublin-birkenhead-route/
Stena Europe now no longer scheduled to be moved in Falmouth tonight.
Apparently according to many rumours on the facebook, Horizon is opening the new Birkenhead service.
Who then will replace Horizon on the France Route?
Quote from: Andrew White on December 16, 2023, 04:52:00 PMWho then will replace Horizon on the France Route?
No one I believe, back to single ship opperation.
Quote from: shipbiulder101 on December 17, 2023, 06:43:34 PMQuote from: Andrew White on December 16, 2023, 04:52:00 PMWho then will replace Horizon on the France Route?
No one I believe, back to single ship opperation.
Based on the Stena booking site it,ll be a 2 ship operation again from the beginning of May 2024.
Some more info on the new Dublin Birkenhead route from the excellent NI Ferry site
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-confirms-launch-of-new-merseyside-to-dublin-ferry-service/
Also not sure if Europe will be running a full service on its return to Rosslare Fishguard, was looking at bookings and the cabins and Hygge lounge seem to be Sold Out for all crossings, which usually means they are not available. So possibly running with a reduced level of onboard services.
Europe out of drydock tonight and now alongside in Falmouth, should be visible on webcam in the morning.
Europe is out of drydock and they did not do too much cleaning of the hull, plenty of rusty water marks visible on the webcam.
Stena Europe, image on link below after drydock,
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33847785@N00/53409920743/
Not a lot of paint cleaning/painting carried out while out of the water. Stern doors are the same after the extensions were put back in July, couple of life boats not back on yet also.
Due to depart Falmouth on the 22nd.
Todays stormy weather having an impact on the Irish Sea sailings.
Nordica cannot dock in Rosslare, arrived at 05.20 this morning and outside the port since.
Superfast VII and VIII cancelled until this evening
Europe due to leave Falmouth this afternoon at 13.00, destination showing as Holyhead !
Europe on the move, due into Holyhead tomorrow afternoon.
Quote from: giftgrub on December 22, 2023, 02:25:25 PMEurope on the move, due into Holyhead tomorrow afternoon.
Covering for a sick Estrid.
Quote from: scomac on December 22, 2023, 03:12:25 PMQuote from: giftgrub on December 22, 2023, 02:25:25 PMEurope on the move, due into Holyhead tomorrow afternoon.
Covering for a sick Estrid.
Thanks for the heads up, that's interesting, a pity they couldn't apply some fresh paint and have it looking good, but could be around for awhile on the Irish sea for refit season.
Quote from: giftgrub on December 22, 2023, 04:51:07 PMQuote from: scomac on December 22, 2023, 03:12:25 PMQuote from: giftgrub on December 22, 2023, 02:25:25 PMEurope on the move, due into Holyhead tomorrow afternoon.
Covering for a sick Estrid.
Thanks for the heads up, that's interesting, a pity they couldn't apply some fresh paint and have it looking good, but could be around for awhile on the Irish sea for refit season.
No need to spend money on painting her for a short period of service, really.
It's now not clear if she's actually covering for Estrid or being kept on standby.
Stena Europe is planned for Rosslare - Fishguard from 7.jan to 4.apr. Stena Freight timetable.
Stena Nordica is covering for Stena Estrid
Quote from: boathansm on December 23, 2023, 07:21:59 AMStena Europe is planned for Rosslare - Fishguard from 7.jan to 4.apr. Stena Freight timetable.
Stena Nordica is covering for Stena Estrid
And Stena Estrid is covering for Stena Edda and Stena Embla.
All three of Stena Lines Rosslare based fleet are in port today, Vision & Horizon swapped sailings earlier in the week so both in port today and Nordica sailings cancelled (again).
Next weekend will see Europe return to route (with only Plus and Met Bar operating, nothing on deck seven open and no cabins in use for three months)allowing the jack up rig in Fishguard to be rebuilt for bigger vessels and allow Nordica to provide cover for Irish Sea refits and one assumes possibly a drydock for Nordica itself and Horizon will be off to cover for Britannica and Hollandica.
Stena Europe has left Holyhead and on the way to Fishguard, should arrive later this afternoon. (No eta on Marine Traffic) but currently at 16+ knots.
Europe is in Fishguard.
Quote from: giftgrub on December 31, 2023, 11:47:56 AMAll three of Stena Lines Rosslare based fleet are in port today, Vision & Horizon swapped sailings earlier in the week so both in port today and Nordica sailings cancelled (again).
Pic from Rosslare Harbour Maritime Heritage Centre Facebook Page
Nordica currently waiting outside Fishguard harbour to berth on its scheduled 11pm arrival from Rosslare, the Fishguard berth currently occupied by Stena Europe !
Stena Europe was due to return to Rosslare for a time this morning prior to resuming service as relief vessel in a few days. This has now been delayed until Friday morning. It may be that delays are being caused by the need to complete all the relevant statutory inspections by both the UK and ROI authorities.
Quote from: scomac on January 03, 2024, 08:05:33 PMStena Europe was due to return to Rosslare for a time this morning prior to resuming service as relief vessel in a few days. This has now been delayed until Friday morning. It may be that delays are being caused by the need to complete all the relevant statutory inspections by both the UK and ROI authorities.
No longer available to book for next week on the website, might be some issues getting getting approval. (Still on the freight timetable though)
Quote from: giftgrub on January 03, 2024, 10:45:21 PMQuote from: scomac on January 03, 2024, 08:05:33 PMStena Europe was due to return to Rosslare for a time this morning prior to resuming service as relief vessel in a few days. This has now been delayed until Friday morning. It may be that delays are being caused by the need to complete all the relevant statutory inspections by both the UK and ROI authorities.
No longer available to book for next week on the website, might be some issues getting getting approval. (Still on the freight timetable though)
These things have to be manually updated. It would suggest there could be issues surrounding getting the ship ready and securing regulatory approval to operate.
Looks like Europe on the way to Rosslare, ais not showing arrival time.
Europe should be in Rosslare around 9 ish, currently at 18 knots + and half way across the channel.
All sailings Rosslare-Fishguard now cancelled from 7th to 14th January.
Quote from: scomac on January 04, 2024, 05:14:14 PMAll sailings Rosslare-Fishguard now cancelled from 7th to 14th January.
Does that mean Europe isn't up to the job?
Quote from: Niall on January 04, 2024, 08:18:49 PMQuote from: scomac on January 04, 2024, 05:14:14 PMAll sailings Rosslare-Fishguard now cancelled from 7th to 14th January.
Does that mean Europe isn't up to the job?
Would imagine that there are jobs to be done in relation to either crewing / certification / readiness/ approvals / systems etc guess that most of the previous team who crewed the ferry are moved onto to other areas/vessels so getting new people up to speed and following procedures and protocols etc takes time.
Might have been a bit short notice to get it ready in time to return to service, bit embarrassing with the delay but better to wait and have it right.
(however it did last sail for Intershipping in September so depending on when the decision was taken to bring it back to Rosslare maybe the size of the job was underestimated)
Quote from: Niall on January 04, 2024, 08:18:49 PMQuote from: scomac on January 04, 2024, 05:14:14 PMAll sailings Rosslare-Fishguard now cancelled from 7th to 14th January.
Does that mean Europe isn't up to the job?
They have to pass certification and drills for the statutory authorities in both the UK and RoI.
Photo opp in Rosslare this morning, Vision and Europe will be berthed together on berths 1&2 once Vison is alongside around 12.
Stena's Irish Sea drydock programme is about to begin, Nordica has finished service in Rosslare, off to Holyhead to release Estrid, which is then off to release Edda and Embla for their refits.
Europe scheduled to replace Nordica next weekend on Rosslare Fishguard.
Horizon on way to Cherbourg will head to Harwich Hoek to allow Britanica and Hollandica refit, before returning in February to open Dublin Birkenhead for Stena.
Vision running to Cherbourg alone while Horizon is away.
Looks like Nordica has gone technical on the Dublin - Holyhead route next three crossings cancelled, its reliability record has really gone down this year, hopefully they can fix it quickly.
Europe now cancelled until Jan 23rd !! Surely time to get the Vinga over.
From the freight timetable
Stenas Europe return to Fishguard has practically failed? Seems like she's going to be off more than what she will be on?
Quote from: WelshWeather on January 12, 2024, 09:35:02 PMStenas Europe return to Fishguard has practically failed? Seems like she's going to be off more than what she will be on?
Unfortunately it's a shambles at the moment, they must have known the Europe would not be able to take up service straight away, they could have got the Vinga in to keep the route open when the Nordica left as they got the Europe ready to return to service.
It is hard to book a crossing on this route at the moment as you do not know if it will operate, since the Nordica arrived in July it has struggled with reliability and has developed an inability to sail or dock in high winds that have much less effect on the Oscar Wilde.
If the Europe is back for several months to cover the route ((while the jack up rig is made bigger to accommodate more vessels (rather than spending the money to replace the linkspan)) they must have know about this and could / should have been much better prepared.
The Europe since it left in July only sailed for a month on the Intershipping route, it was idle since the middle of September, with hindsight it should have been brought back to Uk/IRl and been prepared to provide cover as they would have know about the 2024 drydock season, plus the addition of a new route Dublin - Liverpool, they knew that they were short at least one vessel if not two when 2024 started.
The clock is ticking as there are rumours that Irish Ferries are moving the Oscar Wilde to Dublin in February and using the Norbay on the Rosslare route until the replacement vessel (again rumours are that Blue Star 1 could be back) then Stena have a massive chance to make some good money on the Southern Route if they could provide a reliable and comfortable service.
Stena Gothica is in Rotterdam and I dont know any route she is going on. Has been there since 23.des
Quote from: boathansm on January 13, 2024, 01:32:35 PMStena Gothica is in Rotterdam and I dont know any route she is going on. Has been there since 23.des
Gothica was covering for Stena Foreteller which was late leaving drydock so when Somerset finished service, Gothica took over until Foreteller came out of drydock.
Quote from: giftgrub on January 12, 2024, 02:38:15 PMEurope now cancelled until Jan 23rd !! Surely time to get the Vinga over.
The point of having Europe back is to do work to the jack up rig at Fishguard as she is the only available vessel that can operate there without the rig in place.
Quote from: giftgrub on January 13, 2024, 03:56:01 PMQuote from: boathansm on January 13, 2024, 01:32:35 PMStena Gothica is in Rotterdam and I dont know any route she is going on. Has been there since 23.des
Gothica was covering for Stena Foreteller which was late leaving drydock so when Somerset finished service, Gothica took over until Foreteller came out of drydock.
Yes! But was thinking was better to have a ship running for Europe when they try to fix the ship.
Jack-up rig is still there.
Europe on way to Birkenhead, must need more jobs done before returning to service, hopefully they can fix all the issues asap.
Europe tonight
Europe now cancelled until January 29th, obviously some major issues need attention before coming back to service, maybe Stena Line/ Stena RoRo might get their act together this time and spend what is needed to return to service (hopefully and purely cosmetic if a few cans of marine Weathersheild in Stena White can be found and applied also to make it look ready to return).
Here is a very nice photo review of the Stena Vision from the team behind the excellent NIFERRY site, currently the only Stena vessel on the Cherbourg route (until the end of March according to freight timetable)
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-vision-stena-lines-ireland-to-france-cruiseferry/
Its a beautiful vessel from the outside and the funnel dominates the skyline in Rosslare Harbour when on berth 1 or 2, one of these days will hopefully get a chance to travel on board.
Just for @giftgrub
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53182589667_6716e94e43_c.jpg)
Thanks for the image CCS, its a classic cruise ferry I never thought we would see on the Irish Sea, its a very impressive sight in the harbour, if driving from Rosslare Strand via Tagoat you get views of the funnel on the left side it's like the days when the Felicity was in port.
Europe is in the wet basin at Cammell Lairds Birkenhead so one assumes the issues requiring a visit to a shipyard do not relate to any underwater areas, it has been rumoured (Unconfirmed) on facebook that it failed inspection by the relevant authorities, not really surprising as the crew is probably all unfamiliar with the vessel and much training and probably lots of other jobs to do.
Also the investigation into the funnel fire last February should be due soon from the MAIB (or at least an interim report) its next in line to be published, interim report into a horrendous accident on the Finnhawk is the last one published. (Assuming they go in order of time of the incident.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/marine-accident-investigation-branch-current-investigations/marine-accident-investigation-branch-current-investigations
Some new images of the Europe in Birkenhead
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53475217131/in/photostream/
Click right from image in above link.
Port side lifeboats are down (possibly an area getting attention) and it looks like not a drop of paint is going to be applied!
Just spotted this interesting video tour onboard the Stena Estelle, one of the E-Flexer XL ferries,
https://youtu.be/gFgOlk-m51I?si=yFGv2h39tQqbpG58
Stena Lines new Dublin Liverpool service will be starting on February 15th and is now on freight timetable, it is due to be started by the Stena Horizon but on the timetable at the moment the vessel is not named.
Seems like Stena are still hoping Europe will be ready to return to service
https://www.westerntelegraph.co.uk/news/24068535.no-sailings-fishguard-due-maintenance-stena-europe-issues/
The website says otherwise, no sailing showing until Monday February 19th !
Europe being moved to another dock in Liverpool.
The adventures of the Europe continue now in Royal Seaforth Docks Liverpool tied up next to a warehouse, we will see what happens next.
Sailings are cancelled on Rosslare Fishguard until Feb 19th now, one wonders will Europe make it back into service.
Stena really dont seem to care about Fishguard any more and seem bound by the contract when they took over Sealink. Fishguard is like a scrap yard of Earlyer years. The linkspan must be almost on its last leg and instead of a replacement they take the cheap option with the jack up rig
Quote from: drew22b on January 25, 2024, 10:00:35 PMStena really dont seem to care about Fishguard any more and seem bound by the contract when they took over Sealink. Fishguard is like a scrap yard of Earlyer years. The linkspan must be almost on its last leg and instead of a replacement they take the cheap option with the jack up rig
Hard to disagree, it will become a self fulfilling prophecy eventually, this year's figures will be lower for the route, as it looks like it will be closed for at least several more weeks when they could have been the dominant provider on the Southern corridor with Irish Ferries using the Norbank for the next couple of months.
In head office it will look bad next year when seeing another drop in customers and no one will remember the complete shambles they have made of everything this year. Not to mention the last couple of years with revised sailing times the Europe was on.
The root cause of all the current issues is still using the Nordica as the fill in vessel in the event of any issues elsewhere which means they cancel crossings if another ferry goes technical.
The refit season has shown many shortcomings and Dublin Holyhead has been very very busy with Big U off for a major upgrade and IF down to one vessel and a major change in imports to the UK coming on January 31st causing a spike in traffic.
With hindsight a better plan could have been to charter something like Galicia from Brittany Ferries (laid up since mid November until March) to join Dublin Holyhead and allow Estrid to provide cover for Edda, Embla, Superfast VII and VIII, could also have allowed Estrid, Adventurer and Horizon to refit, while maintaining capacity on central corridor and allowing Nordica to remain on service.
Another thing with Nordica, since its introduction in July the lack of reliability and number of weather related cancellations seem to be much higher than previously experienced, which is weird when it cannot dock in Rosslare while the much bigger and one would assume more wind affected Oscar Wilde docks.
This extension to the jack up rig is a small investment when Fishguard really needed a new linkspan quite a few years ago it must have one of the oldest in use in the UK and IRL and it is tiny.
On a brighter note the Hollandica returned to service today and Britannica has now headed to drydock, meaning the Horizon is halfway through providing refit cover, also Adventurer and Nordica are out of sync and sailings are being retimed overnight on Dublin Holyhead.
Images of Europe on the move in Liverpool show the port side lifeboats missing, so one assumes some issues with either the davitts or the boats themselves, fast rescue boat still on board also other reports on the socials suggest that the cabins on the Europe have been stripped bare while it was away, which is bizarre if true.
Why is a tug on the starboard side of Stena Europe, all night and day today?
Looks like a tug pushing Stena Europe to dock, on AIS
I don`t know - i am not a tug-expert... . But a tug costs a lot of money every hour... .
But all this is not to believe... . I can really not understand Stena - why they do not send the Europe to scrap now ? This ferry is 44 years old now - how many years even longer to operate her is the plan ? Why are they clinging on her as much as the last straw ?
And what is all not ok in the moment ?
- The Davits ?
- The live-boats ?
- All furniture away from the Cabins ? ((Could be the reason mold inside ???))
- Maybe more other technical problems also ? Why they need a tug day and night ?
Every day in yard costs really a lot of money - and every day closing of the Fishguard-route costs even more money too - and a lot of angry or wondering customers on top. Closed minimum until 19.febr. ! But especially the freight-customers need a 365-days operation.
Why they send not the Vinga from Frederikshavn ? Or the Jutlandica (half-sisterferry from Isle of Inishmore), Vinga and Danica would be enough there for the winter and spring. Or short-term charter of any other ferry which are laid up in winter everywhere in Europe, Drotten, Oslofjord, GNV Allegra (this is the old Oscar Wilde, so she was already in Rosslare, similar with GNV Blu = ex Stena Baltica or GNV Azzurra, sisterferry from Stena Felicity - all these ships are directly available), and many other ferries from GNV, Moby, Trasmed, Corsica linea etc. too.
Would not be a problem to charter any of these ferries for the next couple of month and then they have time for to plan their ferries and routes new and make all yard-stays.
But instead they take all the bad reputation now, all newspapers are writing negative again about the problems of the Stena-ferry etc. . What do you think how many people "from the street" will remember later on Stena Line ? "Oh, yes, Stena Line = they have the oldest ferries with often technical problems and temporary closed routes". Is this what Stena want to be ? An unreliable company with super-old scrap-ferries ? Where it can happen that a ferry-route will be closed from one day to the next for 1 or 2 month ???
So i would have send "secretly" and quite the Europe to scrap and a new (used) ferry for long time fast chartered or bought. It will not work to use the Nordica as replacement-yard-cover-ferry and as route-ferry at the same time. Not this year and not next year. So they need urgent a ferry more in the fleet. But not the super-old Europe, where it is to awaiting that the next problems will come soon later this year.
Sadly Stena is saving extrem hard every Euro on every corner ! What ever it costs as negative consequences, negative reputation, angry and disappointed customers. They run the brand-name down and they run the Fishguard-route down - but it doesn`t bother her at all. Unfortunately, things are getting more and more worse.
When they are closing this Fishguard-route also as before Oslo-Frederikshavn, Moss-Frederikshavn, Sassnitz-Trelleborg, Nynäshamn-Hanko etc. . I was always thinking that Grena-Halmstad will be the next closed ferry-route - but maybe it will be Fishguard ?
Quote from: boathansm on January 26, 2024, 12:20:10 PMImages of Europe on the move in Liverpool show the port side lifeboats missing, so one assumes some issues with either the davitts or the boats themselves, fast rescue boat still on board also other reports on the socials suggest that the cabins on the Europe have been stripped bare while it was away, which is bizarre if true.
She had an inspection in August, and there were deficiencies* found with her lifeboats, i wonder is this why they were lifted off, some work needs to be done on them. It does look like a certification problem at this stage (like when the Julia entered service). Inspection report is attached.
Rumor of her cabins being stripped is one i would take with a pinch of salt! It doesn't make a lot of sense, and fairly sure someone would have noticed before bringing her North again!
* Just to be clear, all ships occasionally register deficiencies.
Quote from: boathansm on January 26, 2024, 12:20:10 PMWhy is a tug on the starboard side of Stena Europe, all night and day today?
Looks like a tug pushing Stena Europe to dock, on AIS
Could be to keep her along side in the wind last night. It might also just be a case they moored a tug next to her!
Europe moved early this morning now docked slightly further into the docks with the starboard side on the quay.
A bit of an update on the situation with Stena's vessels...
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-irish-sea-ferry-fleet-january-2024-updates/
You really have to wonder what happened to the Stena Europe since last July, more details on cancellations below, given that Vinga is still idle, would it not be possible to gain temporary access to Pembroke and run some form of service and try to keep the customer base happy while Fishguard is not available rather than providing nothing.
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/wexford-district/stena-lines-rosslare-to-fishguard-service-suspended-having-failed-to-operate-for-three-weeks/a822858492.html
Also reported on Facebook, Stena are recruiting temporary positions for Stena Europe, but strangely not through Northern Marine (which is within the Stena Sphere)
https://jobs.osmthome.com/jobs/2423/chief-engineer-stena-europe-ropax-vessel
https://jobs.osmthome.com/jobs/2419/master-stena-europe-ropax-vessel
https://jobs.osmthome.com/jobs/2425/2nd-engineer-stena-europe-ropax-vessel
Given that it should have re entered service in early Jan, it's a bit late to be looking for these key people now, and after 20+ years service, could they not pick up the phone and get some of the previous gang back to do these jobs.
Only thing I did notice is that on its first return to Fishguard it went straight onto the berth, so someone from the old crew must have been at controls and brought it straight in.
Quote from: giftgrub on January 30, 2024, 08:17:46 PMYou really have to wonder what happened to the Stena Europe since last July, more details on cancellations below, given that Vinga is still idle, would it not be possible to gain temporary access to Pembroke and run some form of service and try to keep the customer base happy while Fishguard is not available rather than providing nothing.
https://www.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/wexford-district/stena-lines-rosslare-to-fishguard-service-suspended-having-failed-to-operate-for-three-weeks/a822858492.html
Also reported on Facebook, Stena are recruiting temporary positions for Stena Europe, but strangely not through Northern Marine (which is within the Stena Sphere)
https://jobs.osmthome.com/jobs/2423/chief-engineer-stena-europe-ropax-vessel
https://jobs.osmthome.com/jobs/2419/master-stena-europe-ropax-vessel
https://jobs.osmthome.com/jobs/2425/2nd-engineer-stena-europe-ropax-vessel
Given that it should have re entered service in early Jan, it's a bit late to be looking for these key people now, and after 20+ years service, could they not pick up the phone and get some of the previous gang back to do these jobs.
Only thing I did notice is that on its first return to Fishguard it went straight onto the berth, so someone from the old crew must have been at controls and brought it straight in.
They often use various agencies to recruit crew.
An update on the situation with Stena Line's Fishguard-Rosslare route in this article, including a quote from the company's spokesperson - https://m.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/wexford-district/stena-lines-rosslare-to-fishguard-service-suspended-having-failed-to-operate-for-three-weeks/a822858492.html?fbclid=IwAR1ups0V9nUYqc6MwXbzZ48_3PMPDWHWneu9j8iS5SgY3nG71rGVf9nJb2I_aem_AZiJsFy799YY_OK0HfgLhsvjEWiGSNNNEgPwEQdFkF2xL7PXuMaDEbpIc_NreSky-wY
As the Stena Europe shenanigans continue they are also looking for the following crew (in addition to the ones above from yesterday) (which again was due to be back in service on Jan 7th).
Possibly the Mediterranean Sea jobs are old although it could be easily removed from the website if they are not "Live".
All seem to be temporary four weeks on / four weeks off, which is probably not very attractive to Europe/ Irl /Uk based staff rather than week on / week off or two weeks on/ two weeks off.
https://jobs.osmthome.com/jobs/2437/steward-stena-europe-ropax-vessel
https://jobs.osmthome.com/jobs/2069/european-able-body-seaman-with-uk-work-permit-stena-line
https://jobs.osmthome.com/jobs/2435/head-chef-stena-europe-ropax-vessel-mediterranean-sea
https://jobs.osmthome.com/jobs/2719/wiper-stena-europe-ropax-vessel-mediterranean-sea
https://jobs.osmthome.com/jobs/2436/2nd-chef-stena-europe-ropax-vessel-mediterranean-sea
https://jobs.osmthome.com/jobs/2434/oiler-motorman-stena-europe-ropax-vessel-mediterranean-sea
https://jobs.osmthome.com/jobs/2430/eto-stena-europe-ropax-vessel-mediterranean-sea
Rotation and Trading Area:
Rotation: 4 weeks on and 4 weeks off
Trading area: Spain to Morocco.
Interesting short video of Stena Vinga dry dock from last May at Landskrona, getting a silicon based anti fouling application.
https://youtu.be/CFikES6ZzpU?feature=shared
That's some high pressure water jet!
Quote from: Davy Jones on February 03, 2024, 10:45:16 AMThat's some high pressure water jet!
I suspect that's sand blasting!
Some fantastic images of the Stena Edda leaving drydock during the week, looks as good as new.
Click right from this link
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53504271248/
I think I preferred the old typeface. The new one just looks a bit - basic! Sorry!
Some would argue it is easier to read to get the message across.
Quote from: Davy Jones on February 04, 2024, 11:32:24 AMI think I preferred the old typeface. The new one just looks a bit - basic! Sorry!
Some would argue it is easier to read to get the message across.
There is some sort of issue to do with rights to use certain fonts. I'm not totally sure what that means in this context apart from the new, more 'basic' font was specifically designed for Stena Line so they have exclusive rights to use it. Apparently...
Stena Europe still in Liverpool and the Port side lifeboats have not gone back, one assumes they are one of the main causes of the delay, there has been zero attempt to tidy up the paintwork and no other vessel has gone into the wet basin at Cammell Laird so possibly just moved to a cheaper mooring while in Liverpool.
Still due back in service on the 19th Feb so will be interesting if this actually happens.
The jack up rig has been moved in Fishguard so its Europe or nothing now.
Anyone know what happened to the Stena Adventurer? I was on the Ulysses Sunday morning and there looks to be collision damage on the port side? (Have photos but not sure how to upload.)
Quote from: Futureskipper on February 06, 2024, 04:55:20 PMAnyone know what happened to the Stena Adventurer? I was on the Ulysses Sunday morning and there looks to be collision damage on the port side? (Have photos but not sure how to upload.)
Scrapes and scores or something more serious?
The fenders on the berth at T5 in Holyhead don't do the ships any favours and tend to leave some scrapes and scores on the port side, especially when the vessels land heavily on them in rough/windy weather.
Europe on the move again tonight, has left Royal Seaforth docks and on the way to Canada docks still in Liverpool.
Hopefully all is well, also visibe in the image on Facebook today was a van from Servac who look after vacuum toilets, one hopes they are fixing and repairing, along with food supplies coming onboard.
Aside from all the essentials, hopefully a few tubs of Stena White Marine Weathersheild are found along with some rollers and they give the top side a lick of paint.
Quote from: giftgrub on February 06, 2024, 10:15:55 PMEurope on the move again tonight, has left Royal Seaforth docks and on the way to Canada docks still in Liverpool.
Hopefully all is well, also visibe in the image on Facebook today was a van from Servac who look after vacuum toilets, one hopes they are fixing and repairing, along with food supplies coming onboard.
Aside from all the essentials, hopefully a few tubs of Stena White Marine Weathersheild are found along with some rollers and they give the top side a lick of paint.
I would say all focus is on trying to resolve whatever problems have prevented her from returning to service and that cosmetic things will be well down the list, if they are on a list at all. When/if she does return to Fishguard her cover will only be for a few weeks so I don't think they'll bother painting her for a short period of service.
Stena Horizon has completed its refit cover duties on the Harwich Hoek route with the Britannica returning to service today and should be heading back to Ireland very soon, it's due to start the new Dublin Liverpool service on Thursday morning at 06.30 hrs.
Nice video from onboard the recently refurbished Stena Hollandica by a2bviasea here
https://youtu.be/tBwjl0M4xK4?si=7BP_IqilUKXgw47Y
On the Stena Europe Shenanigans, no images yet of the missing lifeboats being returned, we can only hope that it will be leaving Liverpool in the next seven days to return to service on Monday the 19th.
Best in the video are the ship-models in Holland... .
The ferry is full ok, seems not worned etc., positive with TV also in the cheapest cabins.
But as many other ferries around UK and Ireland in winter actually nearly complete 99% empty - feels like a ghost-ship.
Why the ferry-companies are not offering really cheap prices in low-season ?
Ticket-price + 55 Pound for a sleeping-box without window is NOT CHEAP.
Have just last week seen f.ex. in Bournemouth a lot of 3-star-hotels nearby the beach for 35 Euro only. As in the most cities in Europe you can get everywhere a nice big comfortable 3 or 4-star hotel-doubleroom for 2 people for ca. 35,- 45,- or 55,- Euro.
Here on this route, the ship is ok, has really very much space and cabins and well train-connected ports, maybe the best most comfortable train+ferry-connections in Europe.
But because of flights and Flixbus are much much cheaper nearly nobody book this Stena ferry.
Not to forget, ferry-travelers need also a train-ticket to Harwich and from Hoek.
And especially in UK trains are super-expensive, ca. 8-times so expensive as in Germany f.ex. .
So the ferry-price must be LOWER than flights and Flixbus - THEN the ferry would be much more booked also in winter.
But where is the sense of to pay all the crew-members in bars, restaurants and the shop day and night if every day nobody is onboard ???
I would also not feel cozy and comfortable so - there is nothing to do onboard, all spaces 100% empty, no entertainment, not even possible to watching other people.
Was in the last weeks nearly exactly the same videos with 99% empty ferries from Brittany Ferries to Spain and the new Finnlines ferries.
Stena Horizon just passing Falmouth this evening and ais showing arrival into Holyhead tomorrow afternoon.
Stena Horizon expected in Dublin tomorrow afternoon she will be using berth 52 for the Liverpool service
Stena Europe shenanigans continue, looks like another couple of days delay as sailings are now sold out until Wednesday afternoon ex Fishguard, I think we are gone beyond a reasonable time frame to get the ferry back in service, certificates obviously required, lifeboats require work, crew training etc etc, I think if Stena actually wanted to get the Europe back asap they could have used some of their considerable might and put a major effort into getting this sorted asap
Looking at it as an outsider, what on earth happened since July, in the four weeks it saw service for Intershipping, combined with the time in Falmouth before and after and the time at anchor to cause so much delay and make it unable to resume service.
If they are spending big money to get it ready for return to service, just do it and have the Europe on Fishguard service through the Summer (getting a return on the spend) allowing Nordica to move to Dublin Liverpool until Kerry becomes available.
She need to renew some of her certificates.
https://vesselregister.dnv.com/vesselregister/details/12420
cancellations confirmed for Stena Europe until 20th feb at 19.30 ex Rosslare.
Stena Horizon In Dublin port ready to begin service on the new Dublin Liverpool service tomorrow morning.
Great article on the new Dublin Birkenhead service from the always excellent NIFERRY site:
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-lines-new-liverpool-to-dublin-ferry-starts/
The next instalment of the Stena Europe Shenanigans continue tomorrow morning as Europe should be on the move tomorrow morning at 6am.
https://www.peelports.com/marine/our-ports/liverpool/vessel-arrivals-and-departures-board
Europe on the move
Not sure how long the locking process normally takes but Europe is still in the lock, taking a little bit of time to get out to Sea and currently showing destination as Holyhead.
Europe out at sea making good time at 17/18 knots since the delay leaving the lock earlier this morning, apparently more shenanigans during the lock procedure with fire engines reported to be present by reliable sources based in Liverpool.
One of the port side lifeboats is missing, but presumably passenger capacity with be reduced to take this into account and they have the MES system as well.
Have they passed all the inspections and certifications required and will it return to service this week is the big question, currently due back on Tuesday night ex Rosslare at 19.30
Quote from: giftgrub on February 17, 2024, 01:16:21 PMEurope out at sea making good time at 17/18 knots since the delay leaving the lock earlier this morning, apparently more shenanigans during the lock procedure with fire engines reported to be present by reliable sources based in Liverpool.
One of the port side lifeboats is missing, but presumably passenger capacity with be reduced to take this into account and they have the MES system as well.
Have they passed all the inspections and certifications required and will it return to service this week is the big question, currently due back on Tuesday night ex Rosslare at 19.30
Likely to be inspections and drills on the Irish side before she can enter service.
Stena Europe is heading for Fishguard now.
Some really nice images of the Stena Horizon in Liverpool on this Flickr page
Click left from this link
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53534769348/
and for a rare Stena Bulk (not Line) - Stena Surprise
Click right from this link
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53534770898/
Quote from: boathansm on February 17, 2024, 03:49:36 PMStena Europe is heading for Fishguard now.
She was supposed to stop at Holyhead for fresh water and other supplies, but this was abandoned, apparently for "weather and technical issues".
Quote from: scomac on February 17, 2024, 06:14:24 PMQuote from: boathansm on February 17, 2024, 03:49:36 PMStena Europe is heading for Fishguard now.
She was supposed to stop at Holyhead for fresh water and other supplies, but this was abandoned, apparently for "weather and technical issues".
She is back in Fishguard now. She do 19kn on the way to Fishguard from Holyhead.
Image of the Europe leaving Liverpool on the bottom of the page on this link
https://www.doverferryphotosforums.co.uk/mv-stena-europe-past-and-present/
Still scheduled to return to service on Tuesday evening, but will that actually happen ? guess we will have to tune in next week to Shenanigans the Stena Europe return to service story.
More images of the Europe on Facebook today, taken in Fishguard show a starboard side lifeboat missing, so as the port side is also missing one, and given deck seven is essentially closed (only Met Bar and Stena Plus open)and cabins unavailable, if it does return to service on Tuesday it will not be the Europe we remember.
Obviously they still have a marine evacuation system but with less lifeboats it will be reduced passenger capacity and if the rumours that indicate it still needs to be inspected and certified to return to service, nothing is certain on its return.
Europe on the way to Rosslare
I was told that Europe has MES drills
in Rosslare today(Monday)and will lie over all day on Tuesday .if all goes well she will be back up and running on Wednesday
Looks like Stena Europe has passed Inspection - at least no grounds for detention
https://parismou.org/inspection-Database/inspection-search
But they get five defects? But they they sail anyway?
Quote from: boathansm on February 19, 2024, 07:16:35 PMBut they get five defects? But they they sail anyway?
Would guess that there are degrees of defect, some worse than others and these all look relatively straightforward fixes.
Five defects, zero of which are reasons for delaying return to service, means all is ok on board.
Quote from: jpwoodh on February 19, 2024, 08:37:08 PMFive defects, zero of which are reasons for delaying return to service, means all is ok on board.
There were 5 deficiencies, which are basically areas to be improved, and none were grounds for detention.
All ships register deficiencies occasionally on inspection.
Just a heads up for anyone planning to travel on the Europe she is now a CASHLESS vessel so make sure you have your cards etc with you.
Also after tonights "Maiden" voyage on the return to service, next two are cancelled due to weather !
Stena Europe has had an eventful first week back, as above there were some cancellations, good reports and images of onboard services available and the duty free shop and Barista bar on deck 7 were also open and all public areas reported to be very clean and tidy, so the time off service in Liverpool was put to good use, cabins appear to be being refurbished having been stripped (no reason been given why they were stripped), also reports that next job is a charter in Croatia (not confirmed)this Summer.
More cancellations last night and today due to weather ! And tonight the Stena Europe is making a sailing from Dublin to Holyhead, tonight's Rosslare Fishguard was showing as sold out during the week so obviously cannot transfer those passengers without more capacity.
Given that the weather is not that bad, is there some sort of technical restriction in place to cause Rosslare Fishguard sailings to be cancelled while it can sail from Dublin, many years ago there was a restriction in Rosslare if it did not have all engines available (after it brushed against the previous Oscar Wilde).
Previous report on this link.
https://afloat.ie/safety/mcib/item/23803-mcib-publish-collision-report-between-mv-stena-europe--mv-oscar-wilde
Given its speed, it not looking like an engine issue, sailing at 19 knots most crossings, but it has sailed in far worse weather conditions than this in the past.
Europe berthing in Holyhead this morning on its Dublin Holyhead run with assistance from tug St David, would suggest some issues with manoeuvrability, tugs not available in Rosslare or Fishguard, so possibly limited operations on its normal route, depending on weather/ wind speed.
I also notice she is on Terminal 3, usually used by Irish Ferries, instead of the usual Stena Terminal 5 to the right (or should I say Starboard).
This may just be because Terminal 5 is already occupied, or it may be due to wind direction.
Quote from: Davy Jones on February 26, 2024, 09:16:30 AMI also notice she is on Terminal 3, usually used by Irish Ferries, instead of the usual Stena Terminal 5 to the right (or should I say Starboard).
This may just be because Terminal 5 is already occupied, or it may be due to wind direction.
Nordica was on T5 at the time.
Stena Europe struggling to keep time today and more cancellations tomorrow afternoon the 14.00 from Fishguard and the 19.30 from Rosslare cancelled due to adverse weather conditions!
Stena Europe really struggling with time keeping, seems to be taking a lot longer to turn around in port, Arrived Rosslare yesterday morning 07.08 departed at 10.53, arrived Fishguard 13.53 departed at 17.28, arrived Rosslare at 20.34 left at 01.48, arrived Fishguard 04.57 departed at 08.05, turnaround of between 3 hours and 5 hours.
Previously they were able to shorten the turnaround time to make back time, but its next two sailings are cancelled due to Adverse Weather ! (customers transferred to Oscar Wilde) so should be back on schedule tonight for the 2am from Fishguard.
Quote from: giftgrub on February 28, 2024, 08:15:37 AMStena Europe really struggling with time keeping, seems to be taking a lot longer to turn around in port, Arrived Rosslare yesterday morning 07.08 departed at 10.53, arrived Fishguard 13.53 departed at 17.28, arrived Rosslare at 20.34 left at 01.48, arrived Fishguard 04.57 departed at 08.05, turnaround of between 3 hours and 5 hours.
Previously they were able to shorten the turnaround time to make back time, but its next two sailings are cancelled due to Adverse Weather ! (customers transferred to Oscar Wilde) so should be back on schedule tonight for the 2am from Fishguard.
In a response to a query on X (formerly Twitter), Stena Line have claimed the disruption is due to the weather being beyond the ship's current operating parameters which would reinforce reports that she only has one functioning bow thruster at the moment.
Quote from: scomac on February 28, 2024, 10:22:59 PMQuote from: giftgrub on February 28, 2024, 08:15:37 AMStena Europe really struggling with time keeping, seems to be taking a lot longer to turn around in port, Arrived Rosslare yesterday morning 07.08 departed at 10.53, arrived Fishguard 13.53 departed at 17.28, arrived Rosslare at 20.34 left at 01.48, arrived Fishguard 04.57 departed at 08.05, turnaround of between 3 hours and 5 hours.
Previously they were able to shorten the turnaround time to make back time, but its next two sailings are cancelled due to Adverse Weather ! (customers transferred to Oscar Wilde) so should be back on schedule tonight for the 2am from Fishguard.
In a response to a query on X (formerly Twitter), Stena Line have claimed the disruption is due to the weather being beyond the ship's current operating parameters which would reinforce reports that she only has one functioning bow thruster at the moment.
The 2024 Stena Europe shenanigans continue, that would make sense, cancelling sailings in weather that could barely dry the washing on the line ! I did spot there is a tug in Fishguard at the moment which arrived overnight "New Ross One" from Falmouth, could be on site for work on the jack up rig on to add some push to the bow in windy conditions
, would also require a tug in Rosslare to cover both ports.
Tug Sarah Grey heading for Fishguard. She is towing on something from Falmouth.
One report on Facebook has explained the very long turn around times in port in Rosslare for the Stena Europe, very slow loading of the unaccompanied trailers with just two tugs in use to load the Europe while they were waiting to depart, apparently plenty of trailers on that particular crossing.
What I don't understand is that Stena are investing in port infrastructure and at the same time trashing the route.
What has happened to the Europe in 12 months? People were waxing lyrically when the ship was being replaced, and less than a year later, the Europe is on its last legs, a shadow of its former self.
Luckily it's happening in the dead season passenger wise, but freight operators cannot be impressed with the lack of operational integrity.
Loss of her experienced crew who no doubt were very good at keeping on top of her weak areas I'd expect has been a major factor.
Stena Europe has been unable to berth in Rosslare this morning after two failed attempts. The 1430 from Fishguard has now been cancelled as a result.
Current weather for the Europes run 27kts in Rosslare and 23kts in Fishguard according to http://www.stenalive.co.uk/fishguard.php. I think the Europe is no as good as some make her out to be atm. She has probably been run into the ground by Stena on her trip to Gib with very little maintainence done.
Quote from: shipbiulder101 on March 01, 2024, 10:50:23 AMCurrent weather for the Europes run 27kts in Rosslare and 23kts in Fishguard according to http://www.stenalive.co.uk/fishguard.php. I think the Europe is no as good as some make her out to be atm. She has probably been run into the ground by Stena on her trip to Gib with very little maintainence done.
Bear in mind she is no longer owned by Stena Line but another company within the wider Stena Sphere. Many of her crew are now sourced through Northern Marine Management (another Stena Sphere company) apart from a number of locals (mainly catering) who are on her to provide support while she's at Fishguard.
She is, however, elderly and techncial or maintenance issues are probably to be expected.
They really need to stop messing around, either get the bow thrusters fixed or pay for a tug to be available in both ports, since the start of 2024 they have decimated any goodwill for the route, practically a text book example how to destroy a business.
Also the Nordica had a very poor reliability record before heading to the Dublin route (regular cancellations became a feature of the route) and this is now running like clockwork.
I mentioned this before, they should and could have chartered the Galicia from BF to cover the Estrid, it's been in lay up for ages, this would have left Nordica in place and allowed all the refits to take place. The Jack up rig refurbishing could have been delayed, and a service could have been provided.
When the bigwigs in Stena towers look back on 24, the shocking performance of the route will be a numbers game, they will forget all the shenanigans and look at the figures wondering why the big drop despite the introduction of a more modern vessel.
Quote from: giftgrub on March 01, 2024, 08:36:04 PMThey really need to stop messing around, either get the bow thrusters fixed or pay for a tug to be available in both ports, since the start of 2024 they have decimated any goodwill for the route, practically a text book example how to destroy a business.
Also the Nordica had a very poor reliability record before heading to the Dublin route (regular cancellations became a feature of the route) and this is now running like clockwork.
I mentioned this before, they should and could have chartered the Galicia from BF to cover the Estrid, it's been in lay up for ages, this would have left Nordica in place and allowed all the refits to take place. The Jack up rig refurbishing could have been delayed, and a service could have been provided.
When the bigwigs in Stena towers look back on 24, the shocking performance of the route will be a numbers game, they will forget all the shenanigans and look at the figures wondering why the big drop despite the introduction of a more modern vessel.
There was no way they'd charter Galicia. She simply wouldn't be made available despite being laid up for the winter. BF don't charter them out and she will be back in service this month anyway, I believe.
Stena Norica
I took the opportunity this week to take a trip on her, the first since her major refit and have to say that she looks much improved and the additional accommodation block which houses both Club and Hygge Lounges provides a much needed extra space on an otherwise very small ship.
However she is too small for the central corridor and this week a wet cold Wednesday in February she was at full stretch there was barely a vacant in the club class lounge and the tables are far too close to each other and the offerings were very poor Irish Ferries provide a much better product in club class.
Disembarkation for foot passengers was chaotic and took forever there were a lot of pax and we were left standing in the small area in front of duty free and services desk for over 30 minutes the area stunk to hell of sewage or something else that was well rotted some passenger even decided to light up a fag and was not challenged by any staff member (there were lots of them around). Stena have really let their standards drop they have increased prices more than Irish Ferries and are offering a far poorer product so I will probably be giving them a miss for a while.
These are my personal views based on my recent trip and may not reflect the experiences of others.
Europe has aborted another attempt to berth at Rosslare this evening!
Quote from: scomac on March 02, 2024, 05:35:06 PMEurope has aborted another attempt to berth at Rosslare this evening!
Yes, but did it on the second try.
Some upgrade in Grenaa, DK for Stena Nautica
https://grenaahavn.dk/en/grenaa-havn-fastholder-energitillaeg-copy-copy/
Quote from: boathansm on March 02, 2024, 07:00:11 PMQuote from: scomac on March 02, 2024, 05:35:06 PMEurope has aborted another attempt to berth at Rosslare this evening!
Yes, but did it on the second try.
Once the wind dropped.
Experienced a trip on Nordica recently after our booking from Fishguard was cancelled. Agree that she is a small capacity ship compared to something like Adventurer. We had a pet cabin but when walking around the ship I thought the seating offering was very limited. Certainly better than what is reported to be available on Stena Europe right now, but I was far from impressed.
The Nordica is indeed really small, a big downgrade compared with the big comfortable Stena Felicity or Stena Baltica in the past or the with the E-Flexer replaced Superfast.
If i have counted all free available tables onboard right they are 93 only !
So in fact this ferry is full with 91 cars only (2 cars are usually full 7, 8, 9 seater and need 2 tables) if all other customer-groups motor-homes, bicycles, motorbikes, tourist-coaches, foot-passengers are 0. ((Truck-drivers has 70 own seats in their truck-driver-restaurant))
So the theoretic maximum Pax-capacity is 640 - but in fact and reality with CIRCA 200 people (+ truck-driver) onboard this ferry is full.
Furthermore there is no cook anymore onboard and the restaurant is replaced with a "fast-food-pick-up-point". All the focus was / is sadly on to have smallest crew- and operation-costs and to downgrade the South-Channel-route so much as possible.
It is really rude to take Europes highest ferry-ticket-prices (beside others in Irish Sea) for such a very low poor onboard-standard and high risk for overcrowding onboard. And then to hope that people will pay on top extra even much more money for a kind of a 1st-class-lounge (which has nothing to do with 1st class).
So the Nordica is a simple very basic small ferry for max. 70 trucks and 91 cars only - not more.
My urgent advice in Irish Sea:
Avoid generally Stena Nordica and also the Norbay from Irish Ferries !
Are we back to the amount of tables bullshit again?
Quote from: Ferriesbetterfastercheape on March 03, 2024, 07:46:03 PMThe Nordica is indeed really small, a big downgrade compared with the big comfortable Stena Felicity or Stena Baltica in the past or the with the E-Flexer replaced Superfast.
If i have counted all free available tables onboard right they are 93 only !
So in fact this ferry is full with 91 cars only (2 cars are usually full 7, 8, 9 seater and need 2 tables) if all other customer-groups motor-homes, bicycles, motorbikes, tourist-coaches, foot-passengers are 0. ((Truck-drivers has 70 own seats in their truck-driver-restaurant))
So the theoretic maximum Pax-capacity is 640 - but in fact and reality with CIRCA 200 people (+ truck-driver) onboard this ferry is full.
Furthermore there is no cook anymore onboard and the restaurant is replaced with a "fast-food-pick-up-point". All the focus was / is sadly on to have smallest crew- and operation-costs and to downgrade the South-Channel-route so much as possible.
It is really rude to take Europes highest ferry-ticket-prices (beside others in Irish Sea) for such a very low poor onboard-standard and high risk for overcrowding onboard. And then to hope that people will pay on top extra even much more money for a kind of a 1st-class-lounge (which has nothing to do with 1st class).
So the Nordica is a simple very basic small ferry for max. 70 trucks and 91 cars only - not more.
My urgent advice in Irish Sea:
Avoid generally Stena Nordica and also the Norbay from Irish Ferries !
Never read such utter nonsense!
The Nordica is nowhere near as bad as you make out and is a lovely ferry to travel on and if required could do the crossing in under three hours comfortably, the Stena Baltica never sailed on the route it was the Koningin Beatrix, while being the same ferry, Stena Baltica was converted to twin level loading and had many other adaptations done.
Given the shenanigans with the Stena Europe the Nordica's absence on refit cover has exposed the lack of investment in Fishguard port over the last many years, at least from next month when the modified jack up rig is in place, the port will be able to accept far more vessels for refit cover.
Hopefully then Stena will make a concerted effort to make the route work and stop the nonsense of the last twelve months of cancellations because the Europe was not able, the Nordica needed elsewhere or nothing else will fit.
Quote from: jpwoodh on March 03, 2024, 08:29:33 PMAre we back to the amount of tables bullshit again?
There are generally 2 different groups of people:A) The 500 Mio. Europeans who want travel from A to B - also with car, motorhome, tourist-coach, motorbike etc. anywhere on sea where roads and tracks ends. And sure also to a very interesting very big and beautiful Island as Ireland. This is one of the main-points of Europe - that all people shall have the possibility for easy and cheap travel in and between all countries - incl. Swiss, Norway and UK.
B) The some dozen investors, shareholders, owners and managers from a number of freight-orientated ferry-companies as Stena, DFDS, TT Line and some others too.
For all these 500 Mio. (A) people the absolute lowest minimum-standard is, to get onboard of any ca. 3 - 4 hours ferry an own table incl. comfortable chairs with partner, friends or family. Or to get Pullman-seats together. So as said the "in fact" max.-capacity of the Nordica is ca. 91 cars with their Pax inside and max. 70 trucks with 1 driver. And there are in meantime everywhere in Internet a lot of very negative travel-reports just about the fact that the Nordica is too small.
So why you try to talk again these facts ?
And only for the few (B) people it is important to operate ferries with so less and small public spaces onboard (f.ex. less and faster cleaning also !), poorest smallest food-options and generally to press so much people as possible into so small spaces as possible. All the different Pax-customer-groups are welcome only to fill empty spaces which was not needed by freight-customers. But it is important that therefore the costs not rising (much) up. And nobody from the named ferry-companies will deny these facts. Just next week is the biggest travel-exhibition again in Berlin, go there on the 1st day, speak with the leading people from the ferry-companies and they will exactly confirm it. Even better on transport-logistics exhib. in Munich 2.-5.june 2025.
So if somebody here has the opinion, that it is ok to pay a more than 4-times so high ticket-price for Stena Irish Sea than for f.ex. 3:30 - 4:30 hours Stena Kattegat-routes and then onboard of the much too small Nordica to sit 3, 4 hours on stairs in stairhouses, on the floor of the kids-playground with the family and everywhere else in public-rooms share tables with foreign peoples speaking in foreign languages all the time or also there sit on floors all the time because much too less seats everywhere - and on top with waiting in longest queques in front of the toilet-doors - ok, than it is an opinion - but 99,99% of (A) will NOT have this opinion - they are expecting much more on a ferry - espcially for so galactic expensive ticket-prices.
Halmstad-Grena day-dep. 6 m car 5 Pax one-way nearly all days in sept. 948:- or 1048:- SEK
Fishguard-Rosslare day.-dep. 6 m car 5 Pax one-way 2 weekdays 4062:-,other days 4192:-to 4491:-SEK
So Stena Irish Sea incl. full duty free extra-profit is 4-times so expensive or more than Stena Kattegat without Duty free. Much more extreme price-difference for big (Patch-Work)families,friends-groups, small sport-teams:
Halmstad-Grena day-dep. 6 m car 9 Pax one-way nearly all dep. sept. 1148:-/1248:- very rare 1348:-
Fishguard-Rosslare 1 x 6 m car with 9 Pax one-way 2 weekdays 5926:-, other days 6056:-to 6355:-SEK
So very family-unfriendly Stena Irish Sea incl. full duty free extra-profit is 5- or 6-times (!!!) so expensive for big families, travelling with grandma, au-pair-girl etc. than Stena Kattegat without Duty free where on every Cola, beer, coffee or water sold in the bar are to pay the very high Scandinavian taxes also !
Similar prices / price-differences through the complete year, night-dep. too and Frederikshavn-route costs only minimal (ca.+100 krones) more than Halmstad. Fishguard-route is 53 seamiles, Holyhead-route 58 seamiles, Halmstad-route 65 seamiles, Frederikshavn-route 47 seamiles. Prices from the Swedish website, 1000 Krones = 88,90 Euro or 76 Pound.
All Ferries in Irish Sea was always the most expensive in Europe in the past too - but in this century it will be even more and more extreme expensive every year - they do not really want (masses of) Pax anymore onboard - when this fact will be understand here finally ? If the prices are 8-times so expensive ? Or 10-times ? Or 12-times ?
All experts in travel- and ferry-business call this "Intentionally destroying of ferry-routes".
Making the ticket-prices so extreme high that only the very few most richest people can still travel anymore. And supporting thereby massive the Irish rental-car-industry and further more airlines also.
Just to remember: 6-times so expensive ticket-prices we have now reached this year already. And a lot of other ferry-companies are much much cheaper than Stena in Kattegat also - and there everybody get a seat and a table also onboard.
All these overcrowded chaotic scenes onboard are in Northern-Western Europe only onboard of Stenas much too small Nordica - last year in North Channel and South Channel - and now also on the Holyhead-route. But Stena is ignoring all this - the Nordica has very very low operation-costs and is big enough for the freight of the South Channel - only this counts. And if there are coming more people as wished - then the ticket-prices turn so much up in the sky that even more people are forced to choose another cheaper travel-solution.
More bullshit.
Time for the reality.
Last May, 107k people arrived into Ireland by sea, about 3,400 passengers per day, which would be less than 225 per crossing on average.
Average of 225 per crossing. This includes commercial drivers and crew coming off the ships.
225 per crossing doesn't call for 1000 capacity ships.
Finally, Stena is a private company run for its shareholders - if they want to put a rowing boat on a route they can, and there is bugger all you can do about it. It's their decision.
I can't speak for anyone else but I have no interest in reading any more of that poster's endlessly repeated wall of words posts.
It isn't a discussion, it is a sermon that I have no intention of being the audience for.
Sorry, if this seems personal but I am sick of you, here and on other forums.
Agree 100%
More interested on topics like.
What is status of Irish Ferries finding the long term replacement for the I try ish Sea fleet.
And for Stena the status of the Liverpool Dublin route - what ferry replacing horizon.
Is Europe staying or off to med.
So many interesting thinks to discuss other than a table calculation!
Reality is for 6 months of every year there is not enough demand to fill 1 ferry out of rosslare to fishguard or pembroke.
Surely it makes sense for if and stena to share a ship during this period.
The ship it frees up covers dry docking elsewhere.
Just needs coordination between stena and if.
With no intervention by government re monopoly
It is only long term way services to pembroke and fishguard will survive there simply is not year round demand
clearly ship needs to be like nordica that can fit berths/ramps elsewhere.
Quote from: stenaplus on March 05, 2024, 01:08:52 PMReality is for 6 months of every year there is not enough demand to fill 1 ferry out of rosslare to fishguard or pembroke.
Surely it makes sense for if and stena to share a ship during this period.
The ship it frees up covers dry docking elsewhere.
Just needs coordination between stena and if.
With no intervention by government re monopoly
It is only long term way services to pembroke and fishguard will survive there simply is not year round demand
clearly ship needs to be like nordica that can fit berths/ramps elsewhere.
Maybe even 9 or 10 months of the year, actually.
Quote from: Alan G on March 05, 2024, 06:23:57 AMI can't speak for anyone else but I have no interest in reading any more of that poster's endlessly repeated wall of words posts.
It isn't a discussion, it is a sermon that I have no intention of being the audience for.
Sorry, if this seems personal but I am sick of you, here and on other forums.
Absolutely agree.
Quote from: Cladyman on March 05, 2024, 08:41:27 AMAgree 100%
More interested on topics like.
What is status of Irish Ferries finding the long term replacement for the I try ish Sea fleet.
And for Stena the status of the Liverpool Dublin route - what ferry replacing horizon.
Is Europe staying or off to med.
So many interesting thinks to discuss other than a table calculation!
Interestingly, Stena responded to a question on X (formerly Twitter) about whether the Dublin-Birkenhead route will take passengers at any stage. In their reply they stated that they have "no intention" to take passengers and that this is "not part of the agreement" with Dublin Port to operate the route.
Having said that, I am aware they are struggling to find a suitable replacement vessel for Horizon. Nordica will cover her dry dock from 18th March. There is a suggestion they missed out on acquiring 3 potential vessels.
In much the same way, Irish Ferries are finding it difficult to find anything suitable long term for Pembroke.
Regarding the Stena Europe, there are strong suggestions that she has a Croatian charter lined up once she's finished at Fishguard.
Given that Europe is supposedly going on a charter in the Summer, it is kind of strange that they have not taken the chance to get the bow thruster fixed while Oscar Wilde is available and have it back by the time Norbay returns and perhaps pick up the two lifeboats left in Liverpool, which are surely fixed by now ! Which would then allow them to maximise the carryings on board as IF would only be able to take limited passengers.
Also when you think about it, having the Horizon off the Cherbourg route carrying just freight (no passengers) on Dublin Birkenhead must be costing as they always had good loadings on the France route and surely the passengers spend some money on board. I know Vision is still available but they must be losing some customers to other carriers.
Is there a reason why Stena Gothica could not be brought in or would it struggle from timings and berth fit in Birkenhead ?
Will they end up chartering Blue Wave Harmony as a stopgap - sitting at anchor in Gdansk for two weeks ?
Will we see the Stena Vinga in service on Dublin - Birkenhead ?
Gothica is too slow to keep schedule on the Birkenhead-Dublin route, plus there was also some mention of an issue with her belting on the 12 Quays berth at certain states of the tide.
In terms of Horizon being away from the Cherbourg route... given the lack of open deck storage on Vision, hazardous loads can't be carried and livestock will be limited.
I assume there must be a very good reason they can't/wont use Vinga on the Dublin-Birkenhead route.
Stena Vinga will cover for Stena Jutlandica in middle of april to end of april. She has been laidup since 18th Jan.
Quote from: boathansm on March 06, 2024, 05:14:02 AMStena Vinga will cover for Stena Jutlandica in middle of april to end of april. She has been laidup since 18th Jan.
Yes, but there must have been a reason they couldn't use her on the Irish Sea before she's needed there.
Upgrade in Frederikshavn?
Quote from: boathansm on March 06, 2024, 12:14:42 PMUpgrade in Frederikshavn?
Maybe it is her slow service speed 18.5 knots?
Ocean Battler is in Rosslare to help Stena Europe. Will she be there to bowtrusther is fixed?
Would imagine tug might have to stay, possibly only way of keeping service open and reliable.
The faulty bow thruster parts being repaired in Rosslare so hopefully won't be too long.
Two Great shots of Adventurer in drydock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53573487589/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53573164501/
Any idea when Adventurer finishes her refit?
Quote from: seaman123 on March 08, 2024, 08:42:20 AMAny idea when Adventurer finishes her refit?
She will return 17th March
Quote from: boathansm on March 07, 2024, 07:40:20 PMOcean Battler is in Rosslare to help Stena Europe. Will she be there to bowtrusther is fixed?
She's actually there for survey work, not specifically to assist the Europe, even though she has been used for that purpose. I would assume once the survey work is done she will leave.
Quote from: giftgrub on March 07, 2024, 09:40:47 PMWould imagine tug might have to stay, possibly only way of keeping service open and reliable.
The faulty bow thruster parts being repaired in Rosslare so hopefully won't be too long.
Two Great shots of Adventurer in drydock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53573487589/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53573164501/
It's likely Europe would need dry docking to fix her bow thruster and I can't realistically see that happening.
Quote from: boathansm on March 08, 2024, 09:22:15 AMQuote from: seaman123 on March 08, 2024, 08:42:20 AMAny idea when Adventurer finishes her refit?
She will return 17th March
I have a feeling that this information might not be correct.
Quote from: seaman123 on March 12, 2024, 11:18:57 AMQuote from: boathansm on March 08, 2024, 09:22:15 AMQuote from: seaman123 on March 08, 2024, 08:42:20 AMAny idea when Adventurer finishes her refit?
She will return 17th March
I have a feeling that this information might not be correct.
It was from Stena Freight timetable and it has been updated now, Stena Adventurer will be back FRIDAY 2024-03-22.
Quote from: seaman123 on March 12, 2024, 11:18:57 AMQuote from: boathansm on March 08, 2024, 09:22:15 AMQuote from: seaman123 on March 08, 2024, 08:42:20 AMAny idea when Adventurer finishes her refit?
She will return 17th March
I have a feeling that this information might not be correct.
She has now been delayed until Friday 22nd March. The original date for her resuming service was 17th March.
Then Nordica will go to Birkenhead-Dublin from 23rd March until 6th April to cover for Horizon.
https://www.shippax.com/en/news/stena-rederi-as-closes-deal-to-sell-the-vessel-urd-to-sea-lines.aspx
Urd sold
Update on Hollandica and Britannica refits carried out in Jan/ Feb when in drydock.
https://www.shippax.com/en/news/stena-line-launches-newly-refurbished-ships-on-north-sea-corridor.aspx
https://stenaline.com/media/stories/stena-line-launches-newly-refurbished-ships-on-north-sea-corridor/
Positive news on Europe, its aversion to sailing in weather that allows the washing to be dried on the line ie Windy should be fixed by next week with the bow thruster issue expected to be solved over the weekend.
Video on Europe when in Canada Dock posted on ferry forum
https://youtu.be/fxpOm21djnY?si=R69l58X0HirOkSsj
For the first time in a long time the Europe will be the premier ferry on the southern corridor up against the Norbank from Irish Ferries, hopefully they can get the two missing lifeboats back soon as well.
Adventurer is getting a fresh coat of Stena White applied in drydock
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53585937367/
A couple of buckets would have made a massive difference to the Europe but we won't continue to give out about that.
Stena Line will introduce BORE SONG to their Dublin - Liverpool (Birkenhead) route in mid-April.
This will allow STENA HORIZON to return to Rosslare - Cherbourg, STENA NORDICA to return to Rosslare - Fishguard and STENA EUROPE to leave the fleet again.
Stena charter Bore Song for Liverpool to Dublin
I see Stena chartered Bore Song for Dublin Liverpool
Latest addition to the Stena Line Irish Sea fleet Bore Song is one of the many Flensburger vessels
https://www.ferry-site.dk/ferry.php?id=9443566&lang=en
And the countdown begins again to the Stena Europe's final departure from the Rosslare route and Irish Sea service a sense of Deja vu, have we been here before !
Will they get a chance to drydock the Nordica before it returns to the Rosslare route as all the Irish Sea fleet except Estrid will have had some work carried out, fingers crossed the fleet reliability will be good and allow the Nordica to stay on the Rosslare Fishguard route and finally establish itself as a mainstay on the Southern Corridor.
Bore Song has 2863 lm only for trailer without driver.
Can not see how Stena want make this ferry well booked.
If there would be really so much freight it was mega-stupid from P&O to give up this route.
Let´s hope, that the Nordica will stay on the Fishguard-route then permanently.
And no deleted departures anymore.
Dublin - Birkenhead is an unaccompanied freight route 2,800 lms is a lot of trailers, not sure how much traffic you expect them to carry but that's nearly 3 kms of trailers a day if its full and this replaces the Horizon which has 2,250 lms so it has a bigger capacity, for accompanied freight they offer Dublin Holyhead.
Is Stena Europe going to have an inspection tomorrow in Rosslare?
Quote from: boathansm on March 15, 2024, 07:02:01 PMIs Stena Europe going to have an inspection tomorrow in Rosslare?
Might be refitting the parts to the bow thruster that's caused all the problems with the windy weather.
Quote from: giftgrub on March 15, 2024, 07:48:37 PMQuote from: boathansm on March 15, 2024, 07:02:01 PMIs Stena Europe going to have an inspection tomorrow in Rosslare?
Might be refitting the parts to the bow thruster that's caused all the problems with the windy weather.
I was only thinking about her Passenger Ship Safety Certificate thats expires 15th march 2024. Maybe some delay in update.
https://vesselregister.dnv.com/vesselregister/details/12420
Quote from: boathansm on March 16, 2024, 03:12:53 PMQuote from: giftgrub on March 15, 2024, 07:48:37 PMQuote from: boathansm on March 15, 2024, 07:02:01 PMIs Stena Europe going to have an inspection tomorrow in Rosslare?
Might be refitting the parts to the bow thruster that's caused all the problems with the windy weather.
I was only thinking about her Passenger Ship Safety Certificate thats expires 15th march 2024. Maybe some delay in update.
https://vesselregister.dnv.com/vesselregister/details/12420
updated last night and new expiry date is 15 April 2024 for her passenger ship safety certificate. Only one month.
Would the renewal of the certificate be linked to the lifeboats ? As two lifeboats are still missing the number of passengers they can carry is around 600, possibly need to be rechecked when they are returned.
Quote from: giftgrub on March 17, 2024, 09:55:39 AMWould the renewal of the certificate be linked to the lifeboats ? As two lifeboats are still missing the number of passengers they can carry is around 600, possibly need to be rechecked when they are returned.
It may be, but it may also be that some of the things that were pointed out as deficiencies last time have not been fully rectified.
Nordica is due back at Fishguard on the 14th
Quote from: Niall on March 17, 2024, 08:35:33 PMNordica is due back at Fishguard on the 14th
It is believed Nordica will return to Fishguard on or around 12th May at this stage.
Ocean Battler tug was assisting the Stena Europe during berthing operations this morning, so looks like the bow thruster has not been fixed yet.
Stena Adventurer looks really good and ready to return to service, lots of fresh paint has been applied, even the funnels got some attention this time
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53598355527/
Stena Horizon due into Falmouth on the 22nd for drydock before returning to Rosslare Cherbourg, cover on Dublin Birkenhead will be Stena Nordica before Bore Song takes over.
Some fantastic images of the Stena Adventurer leaving Birkenhead this morning, what an excellent paint job they have done.
Click right from link below
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53601756699/
Horizon now due into Falmouth on 23rd, into drydock on 24th.
Stena Estrid off to Liverpool - is this for maintenance?
Estrid on the berth in Holyhead at the moment, due to sail on the 9am to Dublin, skipped a crossing overnight to allow Adventurer return to its normal slot, Nordica is heading to Birkenhead to replace Horizon.
Quote from: Cladyman on March 22, 2024, 07:17:57 AMStena Estrid off to Liverpool - is this for maintenance?
Stena Estrid is operating normally between Holyhead and Dublin and has now returned to her normal sailing times following Stena Adventurer's return to service after overhaul.
Update on the arrival of the Bore Song
https://www.niferry.co.uk/stena-line-boosts-capacity-on-dublin-to-liverpool-ferry-route/?fbclid=IwAR2OU-7buMKzQt42E8X0i5zOZo2Ck7G3O5CvO1YDwDQH9KqjpCdkDBTAwx8
Stena Horizon has arrived in Falmouth ready to enter drydock tomorrow
Looks like Stena Europe's final crossings will be mid April as when Bore Song arrives Nordica will return to Rosslare Fishguard route, so around 14/16 April, at the same time or earlier Horizon should be back to Cherbourg service (last time I think the drydock period for Horizon took a couple of weeks longer than planned.)
Some great shots of Nordica arriving in Liverpool and Horizon departing click right from this link
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53605798178/
Are the jack-up-rig back in service in Fishguard?
Quote from: boathansm on March 24, 2024, 07:56:34 AMAre the jack-up-rig back in service in Fishguard?
Not yet, but the four legs have been refitted.
Some fantastic images of Stena Horizon in drydock in Falmouth
Click right from here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33847785@N00/53610489488/in/photostream/
Click left from here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33847785@N00/53610729020/in/photostream/
And a single image on the northern berth
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33847785@N00/53605955616/in/photostream/
Would love to get the Karcher to the bow and remove the green !!!!
Don't remember too many sunny evenings like this recently, but link below is to a nice drone shot video of the Stena Europe docking in Rosslare.
A sight that will end soon as it is due to leave the Stena Line Irish Sea fleet once the Bore Song arrives to release the Stena Nordica back to its own route and assuming the jack up rig is returned to service in Fishguard.
https://youtu.be/_2ySXE2lTCY
Is Stena Horizon still chartered to Stena Line? When does her contract expire?
Owner of Stena Horizon is still the Visentini-yard.
You think Stena could replace the Horizon with Atlantic Vision ?
Normally Stena was relative happy with this kind of freight-orientated Ropax with poor Pax-comfort - so i would be really surprised if they now would give back this ship and maybe replace it with the Atlantic Vision which has much higher operation-costs - and on last pictures she is looking also worned (= renovation is needed).
Sure - 1000 "wild" things are thinkable also here in a kind of Stena fleet-carousel, i try 2:
A) They could replace the only 2 days a week needed Stena Spirit in Karlskrona with (renovated) Atlantic Vision.
And then operate with Vision and Spirit the Cherbourg-route - a booming route which has highest ticket- and cabin-prices in Europe.
B) Anything in Frederikshavn with Atlantic Vision is not working - too long for the port.
But is still the big Adventurer needed in Holyhead if now 3000 lm are new on the Liverpool-Dublin freight-route with Bore Song ? I guess that especially a lot of trailer-customers will prefer now the Liverpool route - instead of to pay a truck-driver + fuel-costs up to Holyhead and back. So more freight at Liverpool means less freight for Estrid and Adventurer. So Atlantic Vision could replace Adventurer, then timetable-change with Estrid, and Adventurer replace Horizon - and if they want continue longer with Horizon and want furthermore downsizing of Pax-capacities the Horizon could replace the Jutlandica, and Jutlandica replace Danica. This route is much downrunned in the last 20 years - i am 100% sure that there is not 1 dep. anymore with more than 1000 Pax onboard of Danica. So in summary a 2002 built Superfast would replace the 42-years old big Danica (which her bigger crew, higher fuel-costs etc.).
But would be nevertheless surprising if Stena want really use the Atlantic Vision on her own routes now after selling a sisterferry just a few years ago. Furthermore they know her own charter-contract with Visentini about the Horizon - so if they wanted to replace this ferry - why then they have not ordered any E-Flexer (300 - 500 or the normal 927) in the wished size ? Would be with much lower operation-costs than a 22-years old Superfast.
So i believe more that this Superfast will be chartered (or sold) to another ferry-company.
But who knows - in last years happened a number of surprising things in ferry-business... .
Quote from: boathansm on March 28, 2024, 10:02:30 AMIs Stena Horizon still chartered to Stena Line? When does her contract expire?
Would assume yes, don't recall any purchase announcement, think its charter fee is around $20,000 per day (going on memory from when it was renewed.
Quote from: Ferriesbetterfastercheape on March 28, 2024, 03:49:21 PMOwner of Stena Horizon is still the Visentini-yard.
B) Anything in Frederikshavn with Atlantic Vision is not working - too long for the port.
Superspeed 1 & 2 is 211m and can use Frederikshavn as a second dock when weather is bad in Hirtshals. Same as Stena Saga used and DFDS use now. Not twin loading, but that is possible to make.
Superfast ix is 203m.
Quote from: boathansm on March 28, 2024, 08:38:57 PMQuote from: Ferriesbetterfastercheape on March 28, 2024, 03:49:21 PMOwner of Stena Horizon is still the Visentini-yard.
B) Anything in Frederikshavn with Atlantic Vision is not working - too long for the port.
Superspeed 1 & 2 is 211m and can use Frederikshavn as a second dock when weather is bad in Hirtshals. Same as Stena Saga used and DFDS use now. Not twin loading, but that is possible to make.
Superfast ix is 203m.
It has been rumoured that Atlantic Vision will be going to Odense once she arrives back in Europe.
Quote from: boathansm on March 28, 2024, 08:38:57 PMSuperspeed 1 & 2 is 211m and can use Frederikshavn as a second dock when weather is bad in Hirtshals. Same as Stena Saga used and DFDS use now.
Mhmmm - port-info has said "max. 180m" (with exception for Stena Jutlandica up to 184m) and i remember some years ago that the port has promised to Stena Line that from 2029/2030 up to max. 200m shall be possible for the projected new Stena Electra.
This size-limit was also the reason that Stena could not anymore operate with the newer much longer Kiel-ferries the former daytime - round-trip to Frederikshavn (as it f.ex. now Viking Line is doing with the Hel-Sto. ferry to Tallin) in summer.
The "old" Kiel ferries Stena Vision and Spirit was only 175m "short" - similar as the Stena Saga and the DFDS Copenhagen-Oslo ferries - there is nothing longer than ca. 175m - longest ferry in Frederikshavn actually is the Jutlandica with 184 m.
So i doubt very much that Stena now will make any complicated discuss with the port of Frederikshavn about to use ferries longer than 200m. But use of a normal Visentini or Stena Nordica is possible f.ex. - i see sadly only further Pax-downsizing of this route especially with the change from the actually city-center port to the freight port in Arendal nearby Göteborg in 2028 - sounds far away in future but is in 4 years only.
So f.ex. the Stena Horizon could change with Jutlandica - or replace Danica.
In other parts of the Fred. port longer ships are possible up to 215m for yard-docking with tugs etc. - but not in the ferry-part of the port.
And furthermore - why Color Line is not using Skagen as "emergency-port" ?
Skagen can take much much longer ships than Frederikshavn and is more close nearby their route and Hirtshals.
Quote from: Niall on March 28, 2024, 09:43:56 PMIt has been rumoured that Atlantic Vision will be going to Odense once she arrives back in Europe.
Then the chances are super-big that i am right with my speculations since long time that
Atlantic Vision will go to Irish Ferries.Also in the last few years other used bought ships from Irish Ferries was in the Fayard Shipyard in Odense for upfreshing and preparing the ferry for the routes from Irish Ferries, furthermore Cyprus-register is also typically for Irish Ferries.
Quote from: Ferriesbetterfastercheape on March 29, 2024, 03:05:58 PMQuote from: boathansm on March 28, 2024, 08:38:57 PMSuperspeed 1 & 2 is 211m and can use Frederikshavn as a second dock when weather is bad in Hirtshals. Same as Stena Saga used and DFDS use now.
Mhmmm - port-info has said "max. 180m" (with exception for Stena Jutlandica up to 184m) and i remember some years ago that the port has promised to Stena Line that from 2029/2030 up to max. 200m shall be possible for the projected new Stena Electra.
This size-limit was also the reason that Stena could not anymore operate with the newer much longer Kiel-ferries the former daytime - round-trip to Frederikshavn (as it f.ex. now Viking Line is doing with the Hel-Sto. ferry to Tallin) in summer.
The "old" Kiel ferries Stena Vision and Spirit was only 175m "short" - similar as the Stena Saga and the DFDS Copenhagen-Oslo ferries - there is nothing longer than ca. 175m - longest ferry in Frederikshavn actually is the Jutlandica with 184 m.
So i doubt very much that Stena now will make any complicated discuss with the port of Frederikshavn about to use ferries longer than 200m. But use of a normal Visentini or Stena Nordica is possible f.ex. - i see sadly only further Pax-downsizing of this route especially with the change from the actually city-center port to the freight port in Arendal nearby Göteborg in 2028 - sounds far away in future but is in 4 years only.
So f.ex. the Stena Horizon could change with Jutlandica - or replace Danica.
In other parts of the Fred. port longer ships are possible up to 215m for yard-docking with tugs etc. - but not in the ferry-part of the port.
And furthermore - why Color Line is not using Skagen as "emergency-port" ?
Skagen can take much much longer ships than Frederikshavn and is more close nearby their route and Hirtshals.
Ferry quay 4 in Frederikshavn take ship up to 220m. It was extended in 2008 with 35m, to get Color Line back or bigger cruise ship.
Quote from: Niall on March 28, 2024, 09:43:56 PMQuote from: boathansm on March 28, 2024, 08:38:57 PMQuote from: Ferriesbetterfastercheape on March 28, 2024, 03:49:21 PMOwner of Stena Horizon is still the Visentini-yard.
B) Anything in Frederikshavn with Atlantic Vision is not working - too long for the port.
Superspeed 1 & 2 is 211m and can use Frederikshavn as a second dock when weather is bad in Hirtshals. Same as Stena Saga used and DFDS use now. Not twin loading, but that is possible to make.
Superfast ix is 203m.
It has been rumoured that Atlantic Vision will be going to Odense once she arrives back in Europe.
Stena has used same yard for Stena Jutlandica and Stena Nautica.
In next week I think should know more. DNV website has got an update as Stena Rederi AS as management, but home country is not updated to Cyprus.
He, then this ferry-port-size in Frederikshavn is a secret - in all databanks and on the own sites and infos from the port it is 180m only.
Stena could very well need a ferry more in the fleet - but it would be for me a surprise if really this ferry will appear on a Stena-route. They have a very cheap flexible best own new-building-system of E-Flexer (and New Max etc.) in all sizes, the Vinga has no route, some other ferries spent more time in ports than on routes (Ventspils, Karlskrona etc. - alone on this both routes with faster / other timetables it would be possible to get 1 + 1 ferry free but offer still the same capacity / 24 hours) - so why now buy this 23 (not 22 !) years old Superfast ? Maybe for a not cheap price if other ferry-companies (Balearia, Grimaldi, Irish Ferries, Corsica Linea etc.) also would be interested ?
So if really "Stena Group" should be the buyer i think the Atlantic Vision goes into the charter-fleet of Stena-RoRo.
But my speculation is still:
1) Bringing back home home Atlantic Vision now to Scandinavia was part of the deal between Stena and Marine Atlantic to charter the new E-Flexer - as a part of the "E-Flexer-package" which has won a few years ago the deal with Marine Atlantic against the newbuilding-offer from Gotlandsbolaget. OR: The E-Flexer was promised to be ready for operation NOW (end of charter-contract with Tallink) - but is a few weeks delayed - and instead of any penalty-money Stena is transferring now the ship to Denmark.
2) The Atlantic Vision is already "secretly" chartered from Tallink to Irish Ferries (if only charter and not a buy no stock-exchange news is needed ?) and will be
3) now renovated, new-painted and up-freshed in the yard in Odense.
A nice image of the Stena Horizon all cleaned up and ready for some sanding and painting in Falmouth
https://www.flickr.com/photos/atoach/53621799029/
Back on the Rosslare Cherbourg timetable from April 9th, so they better get the rollers out soon.
Interim report into Stena Europe's engine room fire in Feb 23 has been published (not a huge amount of detail)
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/65effe32981227001af61270/2024-StenaEurope-InterimReport.pdf
I noticed that Bore Song has not moved since March 13th and is in port in Lubeck.
Quote from: Ferriesbetterfastercheape on April 03, 2024, 03:37:28 PMQuote from: giftgrub on April 02, 2024, 08:22:40 PMin Lubeck.
Lübeck :)
Apologies, still in Lübeck would expect it to be moving soon, due to enter service on the Irish Sea Saturday 13th April, weird it has not moved since March 13th, would have thought if its not being used ideal time to get it over.
Quote from: giftgrub on April 04, 2024, 07:49:31 AMQuote from: Ferriesbetterfastercheape on April 03, 2024, 03:37:28 PMQuote from: giftgrub on April 02, 2024, 08:22:40 PMin Lubeck.
Lübeck :)
Apologies, still in Lübeck would expect it to be moving soon, due to enter service on the Irish Sea Saturday 13th April, weird it has not moved since March 13th, would have thought if its not being used ideal time to get it over.
I believe she's getting modifications done before she heads to the Irish Sea
Images on Facebook from today in Fishguard show the jack up rig has yet to be refitted to the linkspan, clock is ticking Nordica due back in a week.
Hopefully the storm won't cause any issues.
Stena Horizon currently scheduled to depart Falmouth at midnight tomorrow Saturday heading back to Rosslare but not timetabled until Wednesday the 10th.
Stena Horizon departure from Falmouth delayed again, no longer on the vessel movements schedule.
Stena Line also announced today they have purchased a share in Africa Morocco Link
https://theferryforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2842
Bore Song also on the way to take over the Liverpool route from the Stena Nordica.
The jack up rig in Fishguard currently planned to be installed back on the linkspan this Wednesday.
Quote from: giftgrub on April 08, 2024, 07:55:42 PMStena Line also announced today they have purchased a share in Africa Morocco Link
I am generally critical in all these big investments now in Gibraltar-street from DFDS and now "copied" from Stena.
I do NOT see any big growing of freight-volumes and also not any big growing of Pax-volumes in the next 20, 30 years.
And other ferry-companies as f.ex. Balearia want also have strong market-shares.
And "1000" new longer routes between Europe and Africa could be opened theoretic by every other ferry-company (f.ex. Huelva-Morroco) taking away a small part of the customers.
So maybe every month and year 16 trucks than in the month the year before - but shared with 4 competitors = only 4 trucks more. So i see a minimal growing - but for this small volumes invest so much money ???
I think all this money from DFDS and Stena could has been much better invested in other ferry-routes, new bigger more comfortable ferries etc. . And FRS and Attica are very happy to have got so much money for nearly worthless old ships and and routes in a very complicated business-area.
My speculation for the Stena-fleet:
Very Old big Pax-ferries as Europe, Danica, Nautica etc. will go down to Gibraltar-street soon.
And in the 30ies f.ex. the both North-Channel Superfasts could follow replaced with new E-Flexer.
Speculation 2029: 2 oldest DFDS Dover-ferries operating "against" Danica and Nautica or Spirit.
Very interesting, that Stena (as DFDS too) start again with fast Catamaran operation also.
Still no sign of Horizon leaving drydock in Falmouth yet according to time table now due back at the weekend but not scheduled to leave Falmouth at the moment, with Bore Song due on the 12th and releasing Nordica will Europe be kept on route for a few more days and Nordica put onto Rosslare Cherbourg to cover if the Horizon does not return ?
One thing to note, although Europe is cancelled today it has been very reliable in the last few weeks so one assumes the bow thruster issue was fixed, no sign of its lifeboats being returned yet.
Stena Europe is now showing as due into falmouth on the 14/4 so Nordica will be back on route very soon.
Stena Horizon still in drydock and images on facebook posted yesterday if taken yesterday show lots of painting left to complete incl antifouling and all the starboard side still to be done.
MV Bore Song sailing through the English Channel due in Dublin tomorrow 12/4/24 at 1300
Jack up rig has been returned to its position on the linkspan in Fishguard so no reason the Nordica can not return to service on the Rosslare route this weekend.
Stena Jutlandica in Gdansk
https://www.facebook.com/benny.mantere/posts/pfbid0hGoA1Ea4tpsgEXrAAYSySHD7mH7ho2maREyxUfxkhkJfm8VDTRg2EiU9wjfVHKj4l
Quote from: boathansm on April 11, 2024, 07:01:20 PMStena Jutlandica in Gdansk
https://www.facebook.com/benny.mantere/posts/pfbid0hGoA1Ea4tpsgEXrAAYSySHD7mH7ho2maREyxUfxkhkJfm8VDTRg2EiU9wjfVHKj4l
Great images thanks for sharing link, amazing how good the hull looks where the anti fouling paint has been stripped back to bare metal.
Quote from: giftgrub on April 11, 2024, 06:52:05 PMJack up rig has been returned to its position on the linkspan in Fishguard so no reason the Nordica can not return to service on the Rosslare route this weekend.
Nordica is due back on Sunday morning after which Europe will head to Falmouth.
Nordica just arriving to the Wexford coast having left Liverpool at 16.30, travelled at over 24 knots on the trip down, really giving the engines a run, on schedule to return to service tomorrow morning, Europe due into Falmouth tomorrow evening and Horizon due to depart Falmouth tomorrow evening.
The Stena Europe has finished Irish Sea service and has departed for Falmouth to begin another chapter in its life, hopefully its Mediterranean adventures will be more successful than last years and maybe it might get a lick of paint while in Falmouth this time.
Europe has arrived in Falmouth
Visible on webcam
https://www.falmouthharbour.co.uk/maritime-and-leisure/webcam/
Stena Horizon left drydock last night in Falmouth but has not got any further than Falmouth bay so far, due back on service for tomorrow nights crossing to Cherbourg.
Image of the Stena Europe looking its best ! in Falmouth
https://www.flickr.com/photos/33847785@N00/53655477366/
Wonder when it will be reunited with its two missing lifeboats ?
Been thinking about this one, they could have been brought down to Falmouth on the Horizon and lifted off or brought on a trailer on the Nordica and loaded on Europe at the changeover on Sunday, but a bit more difficult to unload in Falmouth. No doubt we will find out soon.
New freight ship begins service on Stena Line's Dublin – Liverpool route boosting capacity by 30% (https://news.cision.com/stena-line-ukie/r/new-freight-ship-begins-service-on-stena-line-s-dublin---liverpool-route-boosting-capacity-by-30-,c3961611)
https://news.cision.com/stena-line-ukie/r/new-freight-ship-begins-service-on-stena-line-s-dublin---liverpool-route-boosting-capacity-by-30-,c3961611
Lovely image of the Horizon back home in Rosslare taken yesterday by The Coffee Dock Rosslare Harbour and posted on the Ferries facebook page.
Interestingly they did not update the hull branding "Connecting Europe..." to the new font that Edda, Embla and Adventurer got when drydocked and keeps the lighter blue band on the bow at the waterline.
Finally all services from Rosslare have been restored to full capacity
Also some great images of Bore Song on its new route - Dublin Liverpool on Flickr
Click right from link
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53653324348/
Click Left from link
https://www.flickr.com/photos/das_boot_160/53653324903/
Europe moving to drydock on the 21st, also reported on Facebook its being painted !
There was also a very nice image of the Horizon in drydock posted on Linkedin by David Barnicoat, taken near the end of its period of drydock, which also suggests some painting to be done on the Europe !
Stena Vision is due to be off service on the Rosslare-Cherbourg route with her last sailing scheduled for Monday 22nd April from Rosslare. According to Stena's live freight timetable, she is expected to resume on Tuesday 7th May from Cherbourg.
It is believed she is expected to go for dry docking to resolve a technical problem with one of her rudders. Stena Horizon will maintain the French route alone during her absence.