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Title: france irlande
Post by: bissiere on September 28, 2017, 10:28:48 PM
 stena horizon sera t' il remplacé par un autre ferry sur cherbourg rosselare?
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: bissiere on October 21, 2017, 08:40:14 AM
WHY OSCAR WILDE GO TO DUBLIN
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: Niall on October 21, 2017, 05:47:21 PM
Rosslare harbour is closed due to bad weather! Inishmore is strombound in Rosslare and Europe is stormbound in Fishguard.
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: wildmind on November 03, 2017, 04:57:05 PM
c'est vraiment dommage qu'avec les nouveaux horaires 2018, Irish Ferries n'offrira plus une service pour les piétons entre la France et l'irlande en hiver!
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: giftgrub on November 03, 2017, 09:25:05 PM
Anglais please.

Would imagine number of foot passengers is quite small on this route
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: PaddyL on November 03, 2017, 11:47:15 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on November 03, 2017, 09:25:05 PM
Anglais please.

Would imagine number of foot passengers is quite small on this route

Out of season yes and Stena are sailing the same days and taking foot passengers so I don't see the issue.
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: bissiere on November 11, 2017, 11:32:14 AM
why is the stena horizon not replaced from february 20th to march 19th 2018 last year stena nordica had replaced they do not have boat to replace it next year?
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: giftgrub on November 11, 2017, 06:56:49 PM
Quote from: bissiere on November 11, 2017, 11:32:14 AM
why is the stena horizon not replaced from february 20th to march 19th 2018 last year stena nordica had replaced they do not have boat to replace it next year?

At the moment it appears that Stena do not have a replacement vessel available, will be interesting to see if they do charter something to operate cover for the refit season.
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: bissiere on November 12, 2017, 10:22:11 AM
therefore,dublin cherbourg with epsilon on sunday isnot good for rosslare and stena line maybe that there are customers who will stay on dublin cherbourg instead of rosslare
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: bissiere on December 18, 2017, 09:11:06 PM
believe that stena will react  with the arrival of wb yeats and the doubling of irish ferry rotations
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: bissiere on January 18, 2018, 07:15:23 PM
someone knows what ship is replacing the stena horizon during the  dry dock because at this moment they are inspecting  a vessel capable of loading trucks with live animals it is the ministry of agriculture of ireland who asked them to find  a ship
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: jgf on January 18, 2018, 10:16:41 PM
thanks for the information, I had missed the coverage of this story in the Irish Newspapers.  According to this article from today https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/beef/live-calf-exports-set-to-surge-as-ship-awaits-the-green-light-36469194.html

we will not know for another 2 weeks if the ship has passed.

It can't be easy to find a ship this quickly. Still no bookings for the period on the stena website.

Can it be said for certain it is not Oscar Wilde they are talking about getting signed off here.
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: RorieLen on January 19, 2018, 08:38:26 AM
As far as I'm aware, Stena Line is the only operator that carries livestock from Ireland to France - I don't believe Irish Ferries have a licence for this trade.

According to Stena's website there will be no passenger service from Rosslare to Cherbourg from 20 Feb-19 Mar. I believe the replacement ship is to be a small freight only vessel but it is far from certain whether it will be certified for shipment of live animals given the need for adequate ventilation, lashing points and, perhaps crucially on that route, stabilisers.

We will find out soon
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: Ulysses17 on January 19, 2018, 01:30:48 PM
Not true. Epsilon is certified to carry livestock from Ireland to France. The OW is not due to her lack of outside deck space.
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: bissiere on January 19, 2018, 02:27:36 PM
from what i read on the site in ireland the ship under inspection is in dry dock
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: RorieLen on January 19, 2018, 08:30:56 PM
Quote from: Ulysses17 on January 19, 2018, 01:30:48 PM
Not true. Epsilon is certified to carry livestock from Ireland to France. The OW is not due to her lack of outside deck space.

Thanks - I thought it strange when I was told she didn't to be honest. Does she regularly ship livestock from Dublin then?
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: RorieLen on January 19, 2018, 08:32:07 PM
Quote from: bissiere on January 19, 2018, 02:27:36 PM
from what i read on the site in ireland the ship under inspection is in dry dock

I was told the ship is currently on another charter and is in service at the moment - she is definitely not in dry dock.
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: jgf on January 19, 2018, 08:53:43 PM
If Epsilon can carry livestock, whats the problem for the liver shippers? they don't want to change from Rosslare? or not enough capacity on Epsilon?
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: bissiere on January 19, 2018, 09:42:16 PM
the  contract was with celtic link which was taken over by stena line
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: Ulysses17 on January 19, 2018, 10:06:57 PM
Quote from: RorieLen on January 19, 2018, 08:30:56 PM
Quote from: Ulysses17 on January 19, 2018, 01:30:48 PM
Not true. Epsilon is certified to carry livestock from Ireland to France. The OW is not due to her lack of outside deck space.

Thanks - I thought it strange when I was told she didn't to be honest. Does she regularly ship livestock from Dublin then?

She ships a few road trains with sheep and cattle every Saturday to Cherbourg. I know Ulysses and inishmore are only certified for horses and chickens.
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: bissiere on January 20, 2018, 05:06:59 PM
what is the name of the ship?
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Post by: RorieLen on January 21, 2018, 08:28:25 AM
Quote from: bissiere on January 20, 2018, 05:06:59 PM
what is the name of the ship?

I believe it is to be Seatruck's Arrow, currently on charter to the Isle of Man Steam Packet Company and which has been sub-chartered to Condor recently for Channel Island service but is now doing a stint for Northlink.
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: bissiere on January 29, 2018, 07:59:55 PM
it looks like stena line still has not found a replacement ferry for horizon during the dry dock for export live animals
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: Steven on February 03, 2018, 12:52:09 PM
Quote from: bissiere on January 29, 2018, 07:59:55 PM
it looks like stena line still has not found a replacement ferry for horizon during the dry dock for export live animals
To be fair to Stena vessels need to fulfil strict requirements so it's not just a case of getting any vessel.  It's the vessel itself that's licenced to carry live exports after all.
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: giftgrub on February 06, 2018, 11:24:15 PM
Apparentely the Arrow has been approved to replace the Stena Horizon, during the refit period

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/replacement-ferry-gets-green-light-to-carry-calves-for-live-export

Freight only service due to no passenger capacity.
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: Davy Jones on February 07, 2018, 01:03:07 AM
Last year Stena Horizon spent time off her route covering for the Stena Mersey and Lagan refits and I think also some time at Holyhead releasing SFX for work up North. How did they address the live export problem then?
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: RorieLen on February 07, 2018, 08:42:32 AM
They used Stena Nordica which is fully stabilised and properly ventilated so was easily certified for the work.
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: giftgrub on February 07, 2018, 09:24:50 AM
And Stena Flavia before that, a similar Visentini built ferry.
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: RorieLen on February 07, 2018, 06:56:39 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on February 06, 2018, 11:24:15 PM
Apparentely the Arrow has been approved to replace the Stena Horizon, during the refit period

http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/replacement-ferry-gets-green-light-to-carry-calves-for-live-export

Freight only service due to no passenger capacity.

I'm hearing the replacement ship will not be Arrow after all...
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: Cillian on February 08, 2018, 03:58:54 PM
On the freight booking, it is listed as Arrow
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: RorieLen on February 08, 2018, 05:32:09 PM
Perhaps it hasn't been updated yet but I have it on good authority Arrow will not operate Rosslare-Cherbourg. She did not and would not be certified to carry livestock on that route.
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: Steven on February 08, 2018, 05:40:43 PM
Quote from: Cillian on February 08, 2018, 03:58:54 PM
On the freight booking, it is listed as Arrow
It definitely won't be Arrow, she (unsurprisingly) failed to gain certification for live export. It'll be a totally different vessel.
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: ferryfan on February 09, 2018, 12:55:30 PM
The Stena Carrier has been approved and will be covering the route for the duration of the Horizon's dry dock estimated to be 4 weeks commencing the 20th February bye bye cows
Title: Re: france irlande
Post by: giftgrub on February 09, 2018, 11:31:35 PM
Great news, first time one of these Stena freighters has been on the Irish Sea, possibly not the last time.