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Re: In Depth Ferry Specs Reply #15 on: December 21, 2011, 06:41:59 pm
norfolk line were so friendly its not even funny, i went from having an entirely way too intense couple of days on my trip thinking the crossing would be more stress i could never have been so wrong, i felt like i had been on a holiday when i was disembarking



Re: In Depth Ferry Specs Reply #16 on: February 11, 2013, 02:58:59 am
Thank you for maintaining this forum and the information! I was able just now to find details on size and capacity of the Stena Normandica on the ferrysite.dk that I had been searching for everywhere.  :-)  BTW, the other site posted along with that one has been taken down - but you may already know that.

I am writing an account of a 1981 crossing from Fishguard to Rosslare on the Stena Normandica and wanted to check these details. It was great to come across your forum.



Re: In Depth Ferry Specs Reply #17 on: June 25, 2013, 08:36:32 pm
Hi Larry

A nice site for general info and pics is simplonpc.co.uk/.  I started a similar project a number of years ago so may be able to help with any info you are missing, particularly with ex Sealink or Stena ships as that's where most of my interest is.  Another danish site with the first isle of innisfree is faergejournalen.dk/aarh-kal/NielsKlim.htm.  IIRC the AA rated this ship as 2 star but her sister at dover was rated 4 stars.  The book Stena Line - story of a ferry company states the invictas speed as 16.5 knots.  I remember at the time she had problems keeping to the schedule due to her lack of speed but don't know if b and I had similar problems.

Re the Stena Felicity, her initial Sealink refit cost £2M according to "the sealink years" book.  It also states that the negotiations for the charter had taken place over some time with the company actually wanting to purchase outright all along rather than charter.

I have tons of books to refer to if you need any further info, tho some went missing during a move a few years back but they are around here somewhere!  Sport I can't post proper links yet
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Steve in Belfast (suburbia)

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Re: In Depth Ferry Specs Reply #18 on: June 25, 2013, 08:57:11 pm
i know the record for carrying cars on the felicity was 555 in one crossing from fishguard with no freight onboard



Re: In Depth Ferry Specs Reply #19 on: June 30, 2013, 06:01:53 pm
Some Normandica history and pics throughout her career at the site I previously mentioned (now I can post links)

http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/StenaNormandica1974.html
Steve in Belfast (suburbia)

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Re: In Depth Ferry Specs Reply #20 on: June 30, 2013, 08:30:22 pm
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Hi Larry

Re the Stena Felicity, her initial Sealink refit cost £2M according to "the sealink years" book.  It also states that the negotiations for the charter had taken place over some time with the company actually wanting to purchase outright all along rather than charter.

If my memory on the Felicity is correct the owners were planning on lengthening the ship (as her sister ship was as Peter Wessel) and Sea Containers were not going to take the ship if lengthened.

http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/visby_1980.htm

http://www.faktaomfartyg.se/gotland_1981.htm



Re: In Depth Ferry Specs Reply #21 on: July 01, 2013, 12:27:48 am
id love to see the collection of books steven, I have a good few here but never enough, would have loved to seen felicity lengthened, does lengthening shorten the life of a ship, I think killian was scrapped before her sisters



Re: In Depth Ferry Specs Reply #22 on: July 01, 2013, 08:56:57 am
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id love to see the collection of books steven, I have a good few here but never enough, would have loved to seen felicity lengthened, does lengthening shorten the life of a ship, I think killian was scrapped before her sisters

Hi,  all 4 sisters had extensive mid life surgery,  the olympica (later Scotia Prince) was lengthened in a very similar way to the Killian.  The 2 day ship versions had the upper car deck heightened in order to facilitate freight on 2 levels.   I think the fact St Killian was scrapped first was more down to bad luck than anything else! 



Re: In Depth Ferry Specs Reply #23 on: July 01, 2013, 09:12:55 pm
i saw the scotia price alright, was she stretched to the same length as the killian, she does look like she was, some very impressive pics of her



Re: In Depth Ferry Specs Reply #24 on: July 01, 2013, 10:40:23 pm
I think about 20 meters rather than the killians 32..  Come to think of it, why was the st Patrick ii not lengthened?  Always seemed a bit daft having 2 ships with such different capacities as running mates...



Re: In Depth Ferry Specs Reply #25 on: July 01, 2013, 11:48:18 pm
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id love to see the collection of books steven, I have a good few here but never enough, would have loved to seen felicity lengthened, does lengthening shorten the life of a ship, I think killian was scrapped before her sisters
Hi Larry

Will have to locate all of them first!  Most of my stuff is Ferry Pubs but have a few by Irish publishers too.  I tend to pick things up on ebay a lot, and even got a Princess Victoria book in Tesco a few months ago lol.  The one book I am really desperate to dig out is Designing Ships for Sealink by rogan and ripley but this has gone missing somewhere along with the vast bulk of my collection.

So far as lengthening goes, I dont think it would affect the life of a ship so long as it is done right (and the lengthening is designed properly with stresses for example recalculated), in the same way a repair after the hull is damaged wont.  How ever Jan Heweliusz style repairs can seriously shorten the lifespan of a vessel obviously, likewise if thinner steel was used on the lengthened section for example then I guess this would also affect the lifespan.  A well maintained lengthened ship is going to last longer than any non-lenthened ship that isnt looked after as well.  I think the aforementioned Rogan and Ripley book might have something in it about Felicity (the book covers some of the ships acquired and modifications made).
Steve in Belfast (suburbia)

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Re: In Depth Ferry Specs Reply #26 on: July 02, 2013, 01:52:55 am



Re: In Depth Ferry Specs Reply #27 on: July 02, 2013, 08:57:52 pm
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looks like a smashing read, next time i have some spare cash i must get this myself http://www.ebay.ie/itm/Designing-Ships-Sealink-Book-Tony-Rogan-Donald-Ripley-NEW-PB-1871947340-GDN-/160913622664
It is a good read and it covers a lot of different ships as well tho IIRC the saints have the largest individual coverage.  I definitely found it a better read than the likes of the Sealink years.  Think my next purchase will be the Knud E Hansen book. 
Steve in Belfast (suburbia)

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Re: In Depth Ferry Specs Reply #28 on: July 02, 2013, 09:23:51 pm
If you have some money to spend, one book that is available at a reduced rate at the moment is the Bruce Peter, Philip Dawson book "The Ferry".

http://www.ferrypubs.co.uk/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=121&P_ID=572

Its the abbreviated version not the full version which has very limited availability but is still on ferrypubs

http://www.ferrypubs.co.uk/product.asp?strParents=&CAT_ID=0&P_ID=571&strPageHistory=search&numSearchStartRecord=1


For more details on the Stena lengthening and adding of decks, then the Stena Line book from Breakwater publishing is a great investment (just make sure you order the English version, unless you have good Swedish)

http://www.breakwater.se/product_info.php?products_id=263

If you want to see what the Felicity would have looked like lengthened then compare images on the links below:

http://www.ferry-site.dk/ferry.php?id=7826790&lang=en

http://www.ferry-site.dk/ferry.php?id=7826788&lang=en



Re: In Depth Ferry Specs Reply #29 on: July 03, 2013, 12:42:55 am
holy crap mate this is possibly the best post ever, my gf was asking me what i wanted for xmas earlier (yes she thinks that far ahead with kids etc you have to) and i said i didnt know, i think ill just link her to this very post