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Title: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Meet the dockers on February 02, 2017, 10:38:10 AM
Anyone heard any updates on how the new IF ship is progressing in the yard? Is it still on target to be in service next year?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on February 02, 2017, 10:41:02 AM
Anyone heard any updates on how the new IF ship is progressing in the yard? Is it still on target to be in service next year?

I would imagine it's a bit early to say much either way?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on February 02, 2017, 12:28:03 PM
Here's the building hall webcam.  Looks like hey are building one of their freight roro's to me

http://31.209.185.103/view/viewer_index.shtml?id=125901
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: NathanBrady on February 02, 2017, 06:44:02 PM
Here's the building hall webcam.  Looks like hey are building one of their freight roro's to me

http://31.209.185.103/view/viewer_index.shtml?id=125901
Someone can keep watch and let de rest of us know when it starts
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on February 14, 2017, 09:23:33 PM
Here's the building hall webcam.  Looks like hey are building one of their freight roro's to me

http://31.209.185.103/view/viewer_index.shtml?id=125901
Someone can keep watch and let de rest of us know when it starts
Still looks like a roro to me.  They are working late tonight!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: NathanBrady on February 15, 2017, 04:24:33 PM
Here's the building hall webcam.  Looks like hey are building one of their freight roro's to me

http://31.209.185.103/view/viewer_index.shtml?id=125901
Someone can keep watch and let de rest of us know when it starts
Still looks like a roro to me.  They are working late tonight!
Do dey use cheap Asian labour in that yard?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: SEA on February 17, 2017, 04:09:27 PM
The ship in fleinsburger shipyard has being Launched.Next up Irish ferries new build .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on February 17, 2017, 05:07:21 PM
The ship in fleinsburger shipyard has being Launched.Next up Irish ferries new build .

There are 3 more roros ahead of it!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on February 17, 2017, 05:43:30 PM
I believe the ship just launched is yard no 770 and Irish Ferries yard no is 771 so it looks like the ferry is next . If they built three Ro Ro,s  before it they would never meet the May2018 delivery date .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on February 17, 2017, 05:57:59 PM
The heavy lift floating crane Samson is alongside the latest new launch with the superstructure already .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on February 17, 2017, 08:24:11 PM
I believe the ship just launched is yard no 770 and Irish Ferries yard no is 771 so it looks like the ferry is next . If they built three Ro Ro,s  before it they would never meet the May2018 delivery date .

Yard numbers aren't necessarily a guide to the order of building.

The ship launched today is actually yard number 772 and due for delivery May/June.  The other DFDS ship is number 773 and due for delivery in September. 

669 is due to be handed over shortly to EKOL and 770 also for EKOL is due for delivery March 2018.

Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on February 17, 2017, 08:26:36 PM
I believe the ship just launched is yard no 770 and Irish Ferries yard no is 771 so it looks like the ferry is next . If they built three Ro Ro,s  before it they would never meet the May2018 delivery date .

Gardenia Seaways which was launched today is 772. As I understand 773 will be next followed by 771. The latter is scheduled for delivery in May 2018.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on February 17, 2017, 08:33:24 PM
Lots of overtime at that yard .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on February 18, 2017, 04:33:12 AM
I believe the ship just launched is yard no 770 and Irish Ferries yard no is 771 so it looks like the ferry is next . If they built three Ro Ro,s  before it they would never meet the May2018 delivery date .

Yard numbers aren't necessarily a guide to the order of building.

The ship launched today is actually yard number 772 and due for delivery May/June.  The other DFDS ship is number 773 and due for delivery in September. 

669 is due to be handed over shortly to EKOL and 770 also for EKOL is due for delivery March 2018.


Just goes to show what an efficient operation they are running over there, and perhaps how unlike many other European yards they have been able to compete with the Far East. 


I believe the ship just launched is yard no 770 and Irish Ferries yard no is 771 so it looks like the ferry is next . If they built three Ro Ro,s  before it they would never meet the May2018 delivery date .

You'd be surprised how quick these guys are.  Remember, its all modular construction, and different parts of the vessel will be constructed simultaneously in different areas of the yard (and perhaps even at other locations) then married together.  The days of simply building a vessel from the keel upwards are gone.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on February 18, 2017, 07:30:47 AM
I believe the ship just launched is yard no 770 and Irish Ferries yard no is 771 so it looks like the ferry is next . If they built three Ro Ro,s  before it they would never meet the May2018 delivery date .

Yard numbers aren't necessarily a guide to the order of building.

The ship launched today is actually yard number 772 and due for delivery May/June.  The other DFDS ship is number 773 and due for delivery in September. 

669 is due to be handed over shortly to EKOL and 770 also for EKOL is due for delivery March 2018.


Just goes to show what an efficient operation they are running over there, and perhaps how unlike many other European yards they have been able to compete with the Far East. 


I believe the ship just launched is yard no 770 and Irish Ferries yard no is 771 so it looks like the ferry is next . If they built three Ro Ro,s  before it they would never meet the May2018 delivery date .

You'd be surprised how quick these guys are.  Remember, its all modular construction, and different parts of the vessel will be constructed simultaneously in different areas of the yard (and perhaps even at other locations) then married together.  The days of simply building a vessel from the keel upwards are gone.

Turns out Gardenia Seaways superstructure was actually built at Gdansk and brought to the yard by barge.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: SEA on February 18, 2017, 09:31:28 AM
Yes it's a small amount of speculation on my behalf. I did hear that work has already begun on the modules and the keel is to be laid in March . Apologies for being overspeculative
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: NathanBrady on February 18, 2017, 02:16:56 PM
why is everyone always apologising in here?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on February 18, 2017, 07:38:46 PM
As is the superstructure for the new IF build .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on February 20, 2017, 03:28:41 PM
Keel laid for sister ship to Gardenia Seaways for DFDS this morning. The new ship is yard no 773 and will be launched in May.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on March 04, 2017, 08:38:17 AM
Looks like some prefabricated sections arrived by barge this morning. The dock gate is removed and the sections are being taken to the back of the building hall just out of the camera view .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on March 04, 2017, 01:11:36 PM
What was delivered was the stern ramp for DFDS new build 773.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on March 08, 2017, 07:37:14 PM
FSG have a good reputation for delivering on-time, so I wouldn't worry too much about the lack of visible progress.  Heres the other (outside) webcam http://31.209.185.102/view/viewer_index.shtml?id=114000

Keel laid for sister ship to Gardenia Seaways for DFDS this morning. The new ship is yard no 773 and will be launched in May.
A while to go yet before the ICG keel is laid, or parts of the superstructure start arriving then!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on March 10, 2017, 11:14:10 AM
It's beginning to look like something now!

I find it somewhat embarrasing that, despite our shipbulding history, that we can't do something like this on home soil, at least not economically.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on April 04, 2017, 08:09:48 PM
Up and up it goes , it's like playing with a big Mechano  set
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on April 10, 2017, 12:12:44 PM
In case anyone is confused it is not the IF newbuild that you see on the FSG webcam.
Last Friday the 7th April the senior management of ICG were at the FSG yard to witness the first steel being cut for the new ship yard no.771.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on April 10, 2017, 07:49:10 PM
Up and up it goes , it's like playing with a big Mechano  set
I should have clarified that .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on April 12, 2017, 03:13:40 AM
For those that haven't heard, the first steel was cut over the weekend with Eamonn Rothwell in attendance.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on April 20, 2017, 04:52:02 PM
Article in today's financial section of the Irish Independent in relation to the new build and it stated that the ship will operate Dublin to Holyhead midweek and Dublin to Cherbourg  on the weekends .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: RorieLen on April 21, 2017, 07:24:01 AM
Article in today's financial section of the Irish Independent in relation to the new build and it stated that the ship will operate Dublin to Holyhead midweek and Dublin to Cherbourg  on the weekends .

To be fair, this is what Irish Ferries have said all along!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: FerryMan on April 21, 2017, 11:45:02 AM
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Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on April 22, 2017, 10:09:41 PM
I wonder if they will take up the option on a second.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on April 23, 2017, 08:13:33 PM
I wonder if they will take up the option on a second.
Could do a lot worse if the finances are in place!  I'm sure there would be demand for such a vessel on the charter market for instance.


Speaking of finance, it has been reported that ICG are bidding for a €75m loan from the European Investment Bank to cover half the costs of the new build.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on May 03, 2017, 11:25:05 AM
The bow has gone on build 773 this morning.

I keep looking regularly but always manage to miss them hoisting the big bits into place.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on May 03, 2017, 09:07:56 PM
The bow has gone on build 773 this morning.

I keep looking regularly but always manage to miss them hoisting the big bits into place.
Me to .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on May 03, 2017, 09:12:38 PM
Plus one of those gantry crane operators  is very casual , always putting his feet up .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on May 03, 2017, 10:51:21 PM
Aye, I've noticed that. Must be a great job! Wonder if he's got a telly in there?  ;D
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on May 22, 2017, 12:59:36 AM
Anybody know when Yard No 773 is due to be launched? Back in reply #18 it says May. Not long to go then?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on May 24, 2017, 06:25:47 PM
I may be wrong , but what looks like the seating platform for a launch ceremony appears to be being assembled .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on May 24, 2017, 06:38:15 PM
I noticed that earlier, and thought the same. Surely, she will have to have her painting completed first though?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on May 24, 2017, 07:07:46 PM
I noticed that earlier, and thought the same. Surely, she will have to have her painting completed first though?
Well the area below the waterline would be . I have seen some being launched with the remainder of the hull done after launch . Not too sure if that temporary opening in the hull just aft of the thrusters has been sealed up yet , you can still see the scaffold /stairs still in position .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on May 24, 2017, 11:39:40 PM
Ive just watched a few of their launches on Youtube. They seem to be quite big occasions. All were fully painted, and named up, although one (Yard 757 Oceanix) went down with half the scaffolding still attached.

Here's 768 getting her first bath:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OANHE95XLY8
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on June 07, 2017, 11:49:54 AM
Looks like the name for 773 is Fuschia Seaways!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on June 08, 2017, 12:09:20 AM
Looks like the name for 773 is Fuschia Seaways!

I am not sure of the exact name and we will see on Friday but looks like it begins with a T rather than an F.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on June 08, 2017, 10:38:50 AM
It's Tuilpa Seaways
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on June 12, 2017, 03:36:58 PM
So, is this the first part of 771 we now see on the slipway?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on July 15, 2017, 10:13:13 AM
Still wondering if the build on the Flensberger webcam is the new Irish Ferries vessel. Looks a little small to me -however she is far from finished yet.

Is there any way of knowing?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on July 15, 2017, 05:19:17 PM
Yes it does look like another RoRo , i would think the new IF build would be wider , anyway let's keep guessing were all the sections lying around are going to go on this one .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on July 15, 2017, 10:41:26 PM
Yes it looks like EKOL's 2nd RoRo Fadiq which is being built. The outer hull sections seem to be painted blue.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Meet the dockers on September 04, 2017, 09:32:34 AM
As expected by many posters on this forum, IF is to name the new ship with an Irish literary name. Full details available at www.bigshipbigname.com, including a possible prize of free transport with IF for life...what better prize for forum members here!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on September 07, 2017, 12:08:18 AM
Looks like the current build may be hitting the water this week. They are doing final painting and the dais has been set up.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on September 07, 2017, 12:18:45 PM
FADIQ was launched this morning and has just now been moved to the outfitting quay at FSG.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on September 09, 2017, 09:06:47 PM
As expected by many posters on this forum, IF is to name the new ship with an Irish literary name. Full details available at www.bigshipbigname.com, including a possible prize of free transport with IF for life...what better prize for forum members here!
Well the Naval Service have taken the remaining name choices , Irish Ferries may have ship named the  MV Roddy Doyle in service .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on September 10, 2017, 10:35:13 AM
I entered my suggestion of "Pygmalion" - George Bernard Shaw's famous play.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on September 11, 2017, 12:03:23 PM
Stage is set for the keel laying ceremony.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on September 11, 2017, 12:12:04 PM
Keel was laid this morning following the usual ceremony at FSG.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on September 11, 2017, 07:19:08 PM
Looks like another RO RO vessel to me looked like this when they started the last one
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on September 11, 2017, 07:20:33 PM
FSG shipyard webcam

http://31.209.185.103/view/viewer_index.shtml?id=398858
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: mightymax23 on September 11, 2017, 07:41:23 PM
not according to the independent  ;) ;)
http://m.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/first-look-the-144m-ship-irish-ferries-wants-you-to-name-36120553.html
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on September 11, 2017, 07:59:40 PM
Looks like another RO RO vessel to me looked like this when they started the last one

No Matt it's definetly not another  Ro Ro. http://afloat.ie/port-news/ferry-news/item/37121-strong-irish-ferries-presence-at-keel-laying-ceremony.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on September 11, 2017, 08:56:09 PM
Thanks for the update guys 🙂
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: CH1 on September 27, 2017, 10:09:26 PM
Good evening guys,

On the shipbuilding hall webcam, we can clearly see the internal access ramp to the lower freight deck, which is a typical feature on ROPAXs ;) So it is certain that it is the new IF !

Rémi BUTEL, French OOW Cadet
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on September 28, 2017, 10:51:08 PM
ulysses a t'elle autant de cabines que la nouvelle construction? et pourrait elle faire route irlande france pour remplacer nouvelle construction si besoin?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on September 30, 2017, 12:55:46 PM
Big Name Reveal next Friday 6th October on the late late show.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: marthyrarth on September 30, 2017, 01:53:11 PM
Great news - is it possible to see the Late Late show here in the uk?  Probably not on freeview or freesat?

If not, on the web?

Seen lots of suggested names, but some people seem to forget it needs a literary connection.  Anyway the name will be more exiting than Superfast x.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on September 30, 2017, 02:59:07 PM
Great news - is it possible to see the Late Late show here in the uk?  Probably not on freeview or freesat?

If not, on the web?

Seen lots of suggested names, but some people seem to forget it needs a literary connection.  Anyway the name will be more exiting than Superfast x.
Not able to view the Late Late Show, lucky you.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 01, 2017, 08:08:32 AM
j'ai vu  un  ami qui est docker au port de cherbourg et m'a dit que la nouvelle construction touchera cherbourg plusieurs fois la semaine est- ce possible?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on October 01, 2017, 03:06:29 PM
j'ai vu  un  ami qui est docker au port de cherbourg et m'a dit que la nouvelle construction touchera cherbourg plusieurs fois la semaine est- ce possible?

At the moment the new build is expected to take the Epsilons schedule, which will mean a visit to Cherbourg at the weekend.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 01, 2017, 04:16:46 PM
vous ne pensez pas que la nouvelle construction est plus  concue pour les grandes lignes avec toutes ses cabines  avec balcons et ses restaurants 
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 01, 2017, 04:34:03 PM
souvent  surtout le dimanche ŕ cherbourg pendant  l'été  il y a oscar wilde epsilon stena horizon ils sont tous complet
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Kieran on October 01, 2017, 06:29:37 PM
vous ne pensez pas que la nouvelle construction est plus  concue pour les grandes lignes avec toutes ses cabines  avec balcons et ses restaurants


Pouvez-vous publier en anglais s'il vous plaît? Une langue est plus facile pour travailler les forums.

In answer to your question, she was designed to be as flexible as possible. I would imagine you are correct, and she will develop the french routes, but as stated already, she is replacing the Epsilons, so will also be operating to the UK.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on October 02, 2017, 06:24:22 PM
All quiet on the building site today , bank holiday in Germany this week .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on October 03, 2017, 04:47:31 PM
Large bow section arrived by barge this morning .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on October 06, 2017, 10:40:15 AM
Looking at France timetable for next year one thing that strikes me is the increase of sailings to Roscoff, particularly in August? All questions should be answered in the coming days.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: marthyrarth on October 06, 2017, 10:51:02 PM
New ship name is W.B. Yeats! Maybe a bit conservative, but there are far worse names!

Going to Sligo next week and will be heading for the lake Isle of Innisfree and all things Yeats!!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ccs on October 06, 2017, 10:52:06 PM
New ship to be named "W.B, Yeats" Just announced on the Late Late Show
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on October 06, 2017, 11:09:30 PM
Strange the Irish navy already have a ship with that name? but I suppose as the IF ship won't be registered under an Irish flag!
The prize of free travel for life is a miserable one trip a year for a maximum of 30 years so they weren't exactly pushing the boat out on the prize!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ccs on October 09, 2017, 10:48:19 PM
I've always thought that "Countess Markievicz" would be a great name for a ferry. Nothing to do with politics (hers or mine  ;D) just think it would suit a ship!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: SEA on October 24, 2017, 06:27:29 AM
Hello,
Looking at the Flensburger Web cam  to me it appears the ship being constructed is not the new Irish ferries ship (colour of the Hull size etc;) . it also states on the dedicated website that the ship is not due to be launched until January . Can anyone shed some light on this ??
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on October 24, 2017, 11:55:12 AM
It is the new IF ship. The keel was laid a few weeks back on the slipway.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: SEA on October 24, 2017, 05:13:05 PM
Thank you Niall,
I don't doubt you and to go by the web cam is not a great idea, Pure speculation but the hull APPEARS to be  red and blue whereas Irish ferries Hulls are Green and white
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on October 24, 2017, 08:18:10 PM
Well most hulls are red at and below the waterline  , now as far as the blue that can be seen , maybe they are going with a colour scheme like the Oscar Wilde . The dimensions would indicate that it is indeed the new IF vessel and not one of the Ro Ro that were build recently .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on October 24, 2017, 08:23:25 PM
Having just looked at the web cam it could be that the building hall lighting  is making the green painted band on the hull look as if it blue .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 24, 2017, 09:50:22 PM
EXACTLY THE COLOR IS GREEN
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: SEA on October 26, 2017, 06:30:04 AM
Yep its Green,
thanks to everyone for their input
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on October 27, 2017, 07:16:13 PM
new ship scheduled to make 3 return crossings from Dublin to Cherbourg from next July! No new Dub -Hhead info yet
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on October 27, 2017, 07:56:15 PM
Epsilon is staying and will be making the 3 return Dub-Cherb crossings in low season.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 27, 2017, 10:08:13 PM
my friend work port of cherbourg have say  two  months ago
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 28, 2017, 03:13:33 PM
SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH I'M FRENCH  (cherbourg)
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 28, 2017, 03:21:29 PM
irish ferries  to buy epsilon or purchased another?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 28, 2017, 09:25:46 PM
 sorry i would say charted again for epsilon?or buy?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on October 29, 2017, 02:03:22 PM
Looks Like W.B. Yeats is on Dublin - Cherbourg Daily until 18 September 2018

Thats a mist opportunity for Dublin - Holyhead until the Autumn,

Wouldnt be great if the IOI was to come to Dublin and a charter vessel to handle Rosslare - Pembroke for three months.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on October 30, 2017, 06:27:15 AM
The schedule  for Dublin to Cherburg is blank from July onwards ,so is the above schedule speculation .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on October 30, 2017, 10:21:48 AM
The sailings including prices (cabins very expensive) are loaded into the search engine.
I would speculate that Swift migt be laid up come September 2018 when the WB starts Dub-HH schedule.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on October 30, 2017, 10:36:18 AM
It looks like Oscar Wilde is being laid up from end of September if you go by Booking Engine.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 30, 2017, 01:06:57 PM
It looks like Oscar Wilde is being laid up from end of September if you go by Booking Engine.

Can we assume anything until the full schedule emerges and that for 2019?   Or we get a full statement from ICG?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on October 30, 2017, 01:22:35 PM
It looks like Oscar Wilde is being laid up from end of September if you go by Booking Engine.


How far in advance can you book the big U or Inishmore ?according to booking engine sailings to U.K. finish next July, or maybe they have not released those sailings yet ? (Which would be normal practice
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on October 30, 2017, 02:13:14 PM
Only Epsilon bookings are available to France from October 2018.

UK Bookings available to end of June 2018. 
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 30, 2017, 08:13:23 PM
ICG previously said that the full-schedule of the new ship would be announced tomorrow (31 October) so I would expect at least some more clarity then.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: CH1 on October 30, 2017, 09:03:55 PM
Do we expect another ship (i guess chartered) to replace the ageing Oscar Wilde ?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 30, 2017, 10:03:15 PM
hello ch1
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 30, 2017, 10:20:30 PM
Do we expect another ship (i guess chartered) to replace the ageing Oscar Wilde ?

I wouldn't be surprised if there is a second newbuild and net result is Swift, Epsilon and Oscar leave fleet.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on October 30, 2017, 10:32:56 PM
There are plans for a second newbuild from FSG after Brittany Ferries Honfleur is built.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: CH1 on October 30, 2017, 10:59:34 PM
Possibly WB Yeats sister ship ? Or a more tailored-design vessel ?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 31, 2017, 03:11:54 PM
There are plans for a second newbuild from FSG after Brittany Ferries Honfleur is built.

When was this announced?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on October 31, 2017, 04:56:37 PM
I saw it on the Irish Ferries website a few weeks back
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 31, 2017, 07:25:11 PM
do you think that rosselareis abandoned for dublin in the future for the lines france
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 31, 2017, 07:42:13 PM
I saw it on the Irish Ferries website a few weeks back


Can you point to the page?  I think we'd all be talking about if if they had announced a second newbuild.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 31, 2017, 07:48:24 PM
The Ferries Facebook group has just shared this

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ferriesglobal/

Irish Ferries have now revealed more of their plans for the W.B. YEATS.

As timetable investigations revealed at the weekend she will operate Dublin - Cherbourg with a sailing one way per day.  In mid-September she will switch to Dublin - Holyhead and the EPSILON will take her place to France. 

The fast ferry JONATHAN SWIFT will go seasonal only and looks like she will be out of service Mid-September to April.

The future of the OSCAR WILDE isn’t clear from the press release but the emphasis out on daily sailings to France suggests that she will remain around.

https://www.irishferries.com/uk-en/news-listing/rish-ferries-announces-daily-departures-to-france-for-summer-2018/
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: A83 on October 31, 2017, 08:05:32 PM
As you say it looks like Oscar Wilde's future is very unclear. What seems to be clear is that the winter sailings to France will be with the much more efficient [and therefore cheaper to run] Epsilon. It also looks like Rosslare will not feature in the Ireland-France schedule for the winter.

All this makes financial sense but taking the cruise ferry off the autumn / winter run is a pity as it is much more comfortable way to get to France during the rougher winter weather.

Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: RorieLen on October 31, 2017, 08:13:33 PM
I saw it on the Irish Ferries website a few weeks back


Can you point to the page?  I think we'd all be talking about if if they had announced a second newbuild.

Agreed. Such a significant piece of news would be shared and discussed at length if it was true.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 31, 2017, 08:20:52 PM
As you say it looks like Oscar Wilde's future is very unclear. What seems to be clear is that the winter sailings to France will be with the much more efficient [and therefore cheaper to run] Epsilon. It also looks like Rosslare will not feature in the Ireland-France schedule for the winter.

All this makes financial sense but taking the cruise ferry off the autumn / winter run is a pity as it is much more comfortable way to get to France during the rougher winter weather.

I wouldn't assume Oscar is gone just yet, if you read between the lines she could even be doing a reduced number of sailings simply.  It's an interesting development anyhow and it will be notable to see how Stena respond.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 31, 2017, 08:44:50 PM
maybe the ferry bay of seine could be charter by irish ferries in 2020 when its end of charter with brittany ferries and its facilities on board are designed for long lines
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 31, 2017, 09:18:39 PM
maybe the ferry bay of seine could be charter by irish ferries in 2020 when its end of charter with brittany ferries and its facilities on board are designed for long lines

Was the suggestion from BF not that DFDS want her back?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 31, 2017, 09:48:28 PM
isle of innishmore possible  ireland france?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on October 31, 2017, 10:18:07 PM
isle of innishmore possible  ireland france?

Inishmore wouldn't be suitable for the France run as she only has 186 cabins compared to 1440 on Oscar. Epsilon has 274 cabins, which is even more than Inishmore.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on November 01, 2017, 09:44:30 AM
All this would suggest that during the summer months, there would be no actual change in tonnage beween Dublin and Holyhead - unless they use Epsilon out of Rosslare and bring either Oscar or Inishmore North.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on November 01, 2017, 11:02:57 AM
The order with FSG included "one option".
Regarding the future of Rosslare it might just be that the timetable has not been finalised yet.
A report done for ICG by Goodbody stockbrokers last year suggested that the Swift would become a seasonal service when the new build arrived on the central corridor.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on November 01, 2017, 05:17:31 PM
ROSSELARE IS DIFFICULT IN WINTER
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: CH1 on November 01, 2017, 05:28:39 PM
Can we expect a shifting of the traffic, currently crossing from Rosslare, to the Cherbourg-Dublin route, given that the W.B Yeats will be by far larger than the OW garage capacity.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on November 01, 2017, 10:24:44 PM
isle of innishmore possible  ireland france?

Inishmore wouldn't be suitable for the France run as she only has 186 cabins compared to 1440 on Oscar. Epsilon has 274 cabins, which is even more than Inishmore.

That sounds more like berth numbers rather than cabins...

Epsilon has only about 70 cabins I know for a fact.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on November 01, 2017, 10:27:36 PM
The full 2018 French timetable looks like this

https://www.irishferries.com/globalassets/landingoffer-pages/france2018/franceschedule-2018-en.pdf

Perhaps Oscar Wilde's future will depend on summer bookings and if they are good she could see further/seasonal use?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on November 01, 2017, 10:53:46 PM
I wonder will she (the Oscar Wilde) be chartered out over the winter? The last time they had 2 ships on the route the St Patrick 2 spent most winters on charter.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on November 02, 2017, 10:50:31 AM
Confirmed Swift will not run after WB Yeats arrives on Dublin - Holyhead in September 2018.
1 November press release from Irish Ferries below:

Irish Ferries Launches 2018 Schedule, incorporating its amazing new Cruise Ferry W.B. Yeats
01 NOV 2017
Irish Ferries has unveiled its 2018 sailing schedule, incorporating the capacity offered by its €144 million cruise ferry W.B. Yeats.

The new ferry – currently being built in Germany – is expected to weigh in at 55,000 tonnes, making it the largest as well as the most luxurious ferry to operate on the Irish Sea.

W.B. Yeats will sail between Holyhead and Dublin from mid-September 2018, delivering additional capacity for 1,885 passengers and crew and 1,200 cars per crossing, onto the busiest ferry route between the UK and Ireland.

Fabulous facilities on the new ship will include a Club Class lounge with direct passenger access from the car decks, ŕ la carte and self-service restaurants, a cinema, a shopping mall, a choice of bars and lounges and an outside promenade deck. There will also be 441 cabins, including luxury suites with their own private balconies.

Before going into service on the Holyhead to Dublin route, W.B. Yeats will add much-needed high season capacity between Ireland and France.

After her maiden voyage on 6 July 2018, the new ship will offer Irish holidaymakers a cruise style travel experience, sailing between Dublin and Cherbourg throughout the summer. When coupled with the existing vessel the Oscar Wilde, which currently serves the route, it will double the number of sailings between the two countries, with planned daily departures in alternate directions.

In another schedule change, the high-speed Dublin Swift catamaran, which crosses between Holyhead and Dublin in as little as one hour and 49 minutes, will provide a summer-only service in 2018.

For full schedule details visit the ‘Routes and Times’ section of www.irishferries.com
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on November 02, 2017, 08:53:53 PM
where will go oscar wilde for winter 2018 2019? only dublin cherbourg with epsilon
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on November 02, 2017, 09:42:05 PM
where will go oscar wilde for winter 2018 2019? only dublin cherbourg with epsilon
Perhaps that could depend on what’s she’s doing from 2020!  If the extra sailings from Dublin - Cherbourg are popular it could see Oscars carryings reduce significantly as people switch to Dublin instead of Rosslare.  If the Yeats is a success I’d say it will only be a matter of time before the option of a second ship is exercised in any case, which would probably make Oscar redundant
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: wildmind on November 03, 2017, 04:54:08 PM
This means that there will be no foot passenger capacity on irish ferries between Ireland and france in the winter, which is a pity
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: A83 on November 04, 2017, 10:44:33 AM
Although the question of foot passenger access is important I think that in a way the decision to run a truck ship over the shoulder and winter seasons goes beyond that and is a very strategic one. I suppose the main income over the period from October - March does derive from trucks but it seems a pity that the previous offering of a high quality cruise ferry [OW]  which could accommodate older people, school trips [in the Easter period] as well as trucks has been withdrawn.

I wonder will the Point Aven see an increase in bookings over the shoulder seasons?

Also does this question the commitment of IF to Rosslare?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on November 04, 2017, 02:56:21 PM
I see a problem in 2019 when WB Yeats goes back on Dublin - France Route if they dont have a ship with her capacity to replace her on Dublin - Holyhead.

I ultimately see Irish Ferries bringing IOI onto Holyhead - Dublin route and second hand tonnage being used to operate on Rosslare - Pembroke.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on November 04, 2017, 10:53:37 PM
If a two-ship service is a success in summer 2018 surely we will see Oscar Wilde retained for 2019 seasonal service and overhaul cover unless they receive a stupidly good offer for her?

We simply don't know enough yet about their thinking.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on November 11, 2017, 12:01:36 PM
WB Yeats is now not scheduled to sail to France before 12 July 2018 according to Irish Ferries website.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on December 02, 2017, 01:35:55 AM
If a two-ship service is a success in summer 2018 surely we will see Oscar Wilde retained for 2019 seasonal service and overhaul cover unless they receive a stupidly good offer for her?

We simply don't know enough yet about their thinking.
Very true.  With tonnage in short supply these days perhaps such an offer may be forthcoming though.  In any case, I'm sure ICG have a plan.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on December 12, 2017, 09:30:23 PM
Just been watching the webcam, looks like one more deck and they will have to leave the building hall, from what I can see, crane cannot go much higher.

(Have not watched any other FSG build so no reference with regard to crane heights)

Will be interesting to see will the success of this build be the start of a few more orders going FSG's direction for passenger ferries, though surprised ICG did not take up option for a second vessel
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on December 13, 2017, 12:57:16 AM
By my reckoning, they have probably completed the 5m high truck decks now. They might just squeeze in a passenger or car deck, but it will be tight. I'm sure we will soon find out.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on December 13, 2017, 08:23:36 AM
How  many vehicle decks .Four by the look of it
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on December 13, 2017, 10:57:04 AM
Due to hit the water on 19th Jan 2018
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on December 13, 2017, 07:47:20 PM
Due to hit the water on 19th Jan 2018

That makes sense, thanks for the updates.

With the bow doors fitted looks like a ferry now, the bow profile does not look as extreme as the first images would have suggested. Much better for the heavy seas it will encounter crossing to France.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on December 14, 2017, 12:58:15 AM
They are proving those of us who said they wouldn’t take too long knocking her together very correct!  Just shows what an efficient and professional operation they are.  Of course, we haven’t yet seen the finished article.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on December 16, 2017, 12:45:17 AM
If you look at the previous launch on You tube you will notice the building hall is built on a slipway.

This means the front of the vessel sits much higher than the rear giving the impression the building is not high enough,

My guess is they will go as high as the bridge deck before launch and complete the upper two decks on the quayside.

Regarding the number of vehicle decks it looks like there is a deck below the main vehicle deck for drops or trailers.

Last week we could see the construction of an inner ramp going to the upper car deck which is next for construction.

They certainly work quickly considering the keel was layed on 12 September only 3 months ago.

I hope we get to see lots of photos of the launch.

Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on December 16, 2017, 01:14:17 AM
Incidentally, has anybody heard how the new Stena builds are progressing?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on December 16, 2017, 05:57:46 AM
Plus they have added a Christmas tree on the bow for a seasonal touch .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on December 16, 2017, 12:08:05 PM
Nice one, i mist that.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on December 16, 2017, 07:11:41 PM
Incidentally, has anybody heard how the new Stena builds are progressing?
Bit off topic but the first one is under construction.  The RoRo which was under construction for one of the Visentini family was launched last week.  They same yard is also due to launch a RoPax for a Chinese operator early in the new year as well.  I’ll be keeping the page in the new build section on NIferry.co.uk up to date as I hear more of course, but given the length of the build time information isn’t exactly flowing out thick and fast!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on December 16, 2017, 08:23:59 PM
Great updates, thank you to everyone who has provided info, really interesting to watch on webcam.

I presume this is the largest passenger vessel the yard has ever built ? Always associated FSG with freight vessels and the smaller ferries, Cal Macs Loch Seaforth etc

Great to see it being built in Europe as well, as I mentioned before they could do very well if this comes in on time and is successful, there are so many ferries going to be required in Europe fairly soon for P&O, Stena, DFDS etc

Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on January 02, 2018, 06:03:06 PM
It looks like Irish ferries have ordered another cruise ferry ready by 2020


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-west-wales-42546415
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on January 02, 2018, 10:25:29 PM
Going to be very interesting to see how FSG manage with finishing this and the new BF Honfleur and then the newly announced IF build, I hope they have managed to secure the production processes to take account of the complexity these three vessels will bring as they require a different finish than the big freight vessels they have been producing up to now.

Looking forward to seeing the WB Yeats hit the water in a few weeks.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on January 04, 2018, 12:33:56 PM
They are putting together the forward section of the upper bow deck and upper vehicle deck door,

My guess is they will launch when this is complete and hopefully they will complete the upper car deck,however
this is going to be tight before the 19th January.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on January 18, 2018, 10:20:39 AM
Painting almost complete, the name is on the side, and the dais is going up!

Anybody know what time the champagne (or in this case, probably a bottle of Guiness) is due to fly?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on January 19, 2018, 12:00:31 PM
launching now
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on January 19, 2018, 12:11:59 PM
it's a monster
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: alfie79 on January 19, 2018, 12:12:56 PM
Think its time to paint Oscar Wilde in the white liverly and green funnel now
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on January 19, 2018, 12:51:31 PM
screen grab from webcam
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on January 19, 2018, 12:52:51 PM
and another
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on January 19, 2018, 03:50:24 PM
youtube video of launch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCP_m0BL-uw
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on January 19, 2018, 04:37:28 PM
it's a monster

If thats a monster wait until they do the next I.F. one!

Think its time to paint Oscar Wilde in the white liverly and green funnel now

It was time to do that about 6 years ago.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on January 19, 2018, 08:30:10 PM
Looks very impressive, great images.

Will be interesting to see top decks being fitted.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on January 20, 2018, 11:33:17 AM
Looks like a large section of top deck has just arrived at the yard from Poland by barge take a look at the shipyard webcam for the pier looks like it to me anyway
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on January 20, 2018, 05:02:40 PM
Looks like front section of upper superstructure,

It contains the bridge and is four decks high.

I would say most of the superstructure was in Flemsburg yesterday prior to launch.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on January 20, 2018, 05:27:08 PM
5 decks if you count the flag deck .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: conor on January 20, 2018, 11:17:32 PM
Nice video of launch on this website:)



https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/luxurious-wb-yeats-ferry-launched-in-germany-823764.html
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on January 21, 2018, 09:44:13 AM
This is the company that makes the top sections

http://marineprojects.pl/activities/superstructures/#c

Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on January 21, 2018, 02:19:55 PM
It looks like another tug is towing something to Flensburg from the port of Gdansk in Poland looking on marine traffic it will arrive tomorrow morning not sure what they are towing mind another top section or crane to put the other top section on that is already there or a section of the new britanny ferries lng ferry any thoughts ?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: SEA on January 22, 2018, 04:42:48 PM
Another view of the Launch from outside the building

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53D-Z2Y_joU
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on January 22, 2018, 07:24:27 PM
the mv wb yeats funnel arrived by barge
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on January 27, 2018, 09:30:19 PM
Found a video on you tube it’s not from marine projects but it’s the two top sections for wb yeats leaving the port of gdansk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tcjuQekC4qQ
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on January 28, 2018, 04:21:08 PM
The Middle Section is on a third Barge now at Flemsburg.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on January 28, 2018, 09:18:42 PM
Found a video on you tube it’s not from marine projects but it’s the two top sections for wb yeats leaving the port of gdansk https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tcjuQekC4qQ

Great video, thanks for posting link, weird watching funnel section heading off.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on January 28, 2018, 10:55:39 PM
i have a friend docker on the port of cherbourg and to be able to accommodate wb yeats it is necessary to build a new linkspan because too wide
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on January 28, 2018, 11:17:06 PM
No worries gift grub took me a while to find a vessel called taklift 4 is due at Flensburg on the 30th of January to lift the top sections on wb Yeats. I would love to see the Ulysses on the Pembroke to rosslare route it will never happen rosslare wouldn’t be able to accommodate anyway but we can dream
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on January 29, 2018, 01:39:45 PM
marinetraffic shows the Heavy Lift Crane Taklift 4 is on the way from Cran Canaria to Flensburg and with arrival date 30.01.2018. Most properly for the lifting job to fix the three sections, Bridge Part middle Part and aft part to the hull
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on February 04, 2018, 07:40:59 PM
Another heavy lift crane has arrived , Matadoor 3
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on February 04, 2018, 09:04:13 PM
Maybe giving taklift 4 a hand it doesn’t look like a middle section is there just just front and back for the top sections
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on February 05, 2018, 11:32:03 AM
Looks like the new build is receiving her superstructure this morning. Taklift 4 and Matador 3 both in attendance.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on February 05, 2018, 12:06:36 PM
Looks like the new build is receiving her superstructure this morning. Taklift 4 and Matador 3 both in attendance.
She is.  Was supposed to start on Saturday I believe.  3 day job to lift the sections in place, then of course they need to do the necessary welding and making good of the various connections
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on February 05, 2018, 04:34:05 PM
Weather
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on February 05, 2018, 11:46:09 PM
Some drone footage from today’s big lift it’s in German I believe sorry

https://www.shz.de/regionales/schleswig-holstein/millimeterarbeit-zwei-monsterkraene-setzen-deckshaus-auf-die-fsg-faehre-id19004301.html
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Paul Arbuckle on February 06, 2018, 04:52:10 PM
First pictures of today's big lift.

https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/schleswig-holstein/Irische-Faehre-bekommt-ihre-Bruecke-auf-der-FSG,schwimmkran158.html
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on February 08, 2018, 08:43:27 AM
Front and mid sections have been lifted on.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on February 08, 2018, 12:19:55 PM
Rear Section of superstructure now lifted in place.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on February 08, 2018, 01:21:08 PM
Some good pictures of W.B. Yeats in this Facebook group in flensburg

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1817485501903595&ref=content_filter
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: RorieLen on February 08, 2018, 05:33:54 PM
That’s a closed group and it looks like you have to be a member to view posts.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on February 08, 2018, 05:41:42 PM
That’s a closed group and it looks like you have to be a member to view posts.
Yes you do.  We don’t bite though...
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on February 08, 2018, 05:56:51 PM
I can add you just say your names and I’ll sort it not a problem I have photos myself but I can’t post them there to large
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on February 08, 2018, 06:13:25 PM
Here is one uploading a few more now
Do you have the permission of the copyright owner to distribute their images?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on February 08, 2018, 06:14:57 PM
These were sent to me not from Facebook
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on February 08, 2018, 06:22:14 PM
I will get in touch with my friend who sent them see were he got them from he’s a ship spotter so he could have taken them not sure though
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on February 08, 2018, 06:26:56 PM
I will get in touch with my friend who sent them see were he got them from he’s a ship spotter so he could have taken them not sure though
The first one is obviously a screenshot from a mobile phone- note the black bars down the side ;).  Unless someone specifically tells you its ok to distribute their images then its not ok.  To those of us who go to the effort of going out and getting pictures this is a real problem.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on February 08, 2018, 06:33:02 PM
They were honestly sent to me I agree with what your saying Steven
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on February 08, 2018, 08:53:37 PM
Nice selection of images of the construction here

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2809235

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?search_imo=9809679
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on February 09, 2018, 12:19:23 PM
Have a look here on the Marine Projects Ltd site some great pics of the superstructures on the quayside
http://marineprojects.pl/company/
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt73 on February 10, 2018, 07:36:14 PM
Nice selection of images of the construction here

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2809235

http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?search_imo=9809679

Great pictures, thanks.  The severe bow hull line reminds me of the old Silja Line Finlandia and Siliva Regina, after they had their bows altered following their first year's service in 1981/82.

Matt
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: NathanBrady on March 18, 2018, 01:04:22 PM
Looks like a Lego kit to me.  Bit like a Lidl.  Let’s hope ders no diggers about ha ha
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: A83 on March 22, 2018, 02:23:20 PM
Handover to IF on 15th June.

https://www.irishferries.com/uk-en/w.b-yeats/
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on March 23, 2018, 09:52:11 AM
Handover to IF on 15th June.

https://www.irishferries.com/uk-en/w.b-yeats/

That’s what it says there, but I note they haven’t updated the date of the first sailing on that page which has been pushed back from the 12th.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on March 23, 2018, 10:52:26 AM
Dont be surprised if WB Yeats substitutes for Epsilon on Holyhead run while they get used to her.

I wonder when Ulysses will finally go for drydocking. She is showing signs of a hard winter.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on March 24, 2018, 12:04:22 AM
Dont be surprised if WB Yeats substitutes for Epsilon on Holyhead run while they get used to her.

I wonder when Ulysses will finally go for drydocking. She is showing signs of a hard winter.
There was talk she would go once W.B. YEATS switched to Holyhead while the fast craft sits out winter.  It’s not as though it’s unusual for a vessel to go more than a year between dry dockings though.  Part of me wonders if they might take the opportunity to refresh some of the interior to make her more similar to WB Yeats, but that’s just speculation on my part and I’ve seen nothing to suggest they’d even consider changing her.  After all there’s only so much they could do before she’d lose her individual character.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on March 24, 2018, 07:22:37 PM
Given Ulysess' age, I would have expected some serious upgrading/modernisation to have taken place by now. I think I'm right in saying that her arch-rival, Stena Adventurer, has had a couple of facelifts to date.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on March 24, 2018, 09:03:30 PM
Given Ulysess' age, I would have expected some serious upgrading/modernisation to have taken place by now. I think I'm right in saying that her arch-rival, Stena Adventurer, has had a couple of facelifts to date.

Mind you Adventurer is hardly classy...
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on March 25, 2018, 02:40:09 PM
It is possible Uysses will see an upgrade late 2020 / early 2021 after the delivery of the new vessel to replace her.

This upgrade could include scrubbers and other technology.

Her interior still looks good inside, however there are areas for improvement like a proper drivers lounge rather than the presently modified Quays Restaurant. The area behind the shop could do with a revamp and the addition of a lounge with reclining seats would be a good similar to Brittany Ferries Monte Saint Michael.

I would not be surprised if her aft upper vehicle deck was extended aft to increase her payload provided it did not effect her stability and possibly more cabins if they are needed. As Swifts crew will no longer live on her after 2020 it opens more cabins to freight drivers and the travelling public.

Lets see what FSG have in mind for upper vehicle deck loading in Dublin on the newbuild.

Perhaps Ulyesses could be modified similarly for minimal cost.

I am wondering if Irish Ferries might switch Terminals with Seatruck to gain access to longer deeper berths. 
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on April 02, 2018, 09:27:43 PM
Given Ulysess' age, I would have expected some serious upgrading/modernisation to have taken place by now. I think I'm right in saying that her arch-rival, Stena Adventurer, has had a couple of facelifts to date.
Its just over a year since I was last on Ulysses, but I wouldn't have said she was in need of a facelift or modernisation and I don't see how she could have deteriorated that much in a year tbh.  Her crew seem to look after her and are rightfully very proud of their ship.  That her interior has aged so well is testament to how good the original design and outfitting was.  I did personally feel she didn't live up to the hype however, but given the amount of hype about her thats not really surprising (she is a ferry after all). If they do give her a facelift they'd better leave the pub alone!!!  ;)

I think sometimes as enthusiasts we get carried away with wanting the renewal of things that don't need renewed (on the flip-side there are some that don't think anything should ever be changed - I personally feel there is a happy medium).  Perhaps we could see some upgrading/refreshing of parts of the vessel and updating of the branding were necessary, but if something isn't broke why fix it?  Personally I think it would be nice to have two vessels with their own character, but whatever decision is taken will more likely than not be the "correct" one if ICG's record is anything to go by.

This upgrade could include scrubbers and other technology.
With regard to scrubbers, I was recently talking to a chief engineering officer with a lot of experience in this area and he was saying that the current thinking in the industry is that retrofitting scrubbers is not such a good idea after all.  They are a much better idea when added during build as the vessel can be designed around them, but retrofitting them to engines not designed for them adds a lot of additional challenges and that in his experience running on DMA is a better option (though it too has its drawbacks such as increased wear on engine components).  He also confirmed that the early adopters (that haven't already removed them) are facing costly maintenance bills due to corrosion issues on their scrubber installations, bills which potentially outweigh any savings.  In short he is of the opinion that they are more or less a no-brainer for newbuilds but not the silver bullet they were supposed to be on older vessels.

If the enthusiasts wet-dream of an extended Ulysses is to be fulfilled I'd say it will be after Irish Ferries have had a chance to assess whether they need even more capacity.  New build 2 is going to need a lot of continued growth to fill on-top of Ulysses, not to mention Adventurer and whatever vessel is operating opposite her in a few years time.  Cost of course is another consideration, not to mention what the original design was designed to take in terms of expansion.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: alfie79 on April 21, 2018, 12:08:09 PM
Just got word last night that Julys booking on W.B.Yeats have being cancelled due to the shipyard being delayed in delivering her.

has anyone any updates?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: LongTimeReader on April 21, 2018, 01:34:40 PM
The Irish Times confirmed the story today.

Irish ferries don't seem to have a firm delivery date based on the article, really appear to need confirmation from FSG. Interesting that they mention article makes reference to email sent to affected passengers last night, "We will contact you and offer you a space we have held for you on the MV Oscar Wilde close to your booked sailing date". I wonder does this mean they coincidentally still have sufficient capacity on OW or did they deliberately hold some capacity?

IF offering €150 voucher for sailing to France next year. Hardly going to push them into a loss position over this. If that was €150/passenger it might be more reasonable. 

It'll be interesting whether this story grows legs or is merely an afterthought by the media. I strongly suspect if this was the late delivery of a Ryanair aircraft then there would be a weeks worth of news reporting in it.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on April 21, 2018, 06:31:54 PM
It will be interesting to find out the reason behind the delay, i wonder was it the complexity of the fitting out or was the engine seized or causing unexpected vibration.

Like Stephen said its the biggest task the shipyard have handled to date. They appeared to be playing a blinder. Its possible the delay may be minumum but better to be cautious.

If you look at the building hall the next ship is amost ready to go down the slipway.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on April 21, 2018, 07:01:35 PM
Not really a surprise that the new ferry has a delay, its the most complicated passenger vessel built by the yard and I would imagine that the issue could be related to fitting out and finishing the WB on schedule, combined with sea trials and system tests, could be the most sensible move to call it now and delay delivery well in advance, allows customers to book on Oscar or Stena Horizon to get to France.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on April 22, 2018, 01:40:11 PM
Airbus had the same problem with A380 when it came to fitting them out due to the size and complexity of interior,

Remember the keel was laid on 15th September, launch was 19th January and super structure was lifted three weeks later.

That does not leave a lot of time for fitting out. Cruise Ships can spend up to a year being fitted out.

hindsight is great, however the yard is busy building ships nose to tail which is great for them.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on April 24, 2018, 08:58:46 PM
Don't forget there are 3 yards involved in this build, with the superstructure built by two different companies in Poland (one of the sections was subcontracted out).  Much of the fitting out was already completed on delivery to FSG (a possible issue in itself).  It could also be something totally unrelated and seemingly minor to the layman that has a knock-on effect - we could speculate until the cows come home and still be incorrect.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on May 01, 2018, 11:16:09 AM
The next ship is due for launch most likely Friday.

The delay in WB Yeats will create problems for FSG when it comes to fitting the accomodation block
on the next ship in 10 days time.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on May 01, 2018, 01:09:38 PM
The next ship is due for launch most likely Friday.

The delay in WB Yeats will create problems for FSG when it comes to fitting the accomodation block
on the next ship in 10 days time.
Just have to swap berths , problem solved .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on May 01, 2018, 04:59:07 PM
That new hull is looking quite tidy!

I do wish they would adjust that camera though so a third of the image isn't taken up with the wall of the building.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on May 02, 2018, 04:01:35 PM
Looks like that new hull is going down the slip real soon , maybe Thursday , podium in place , bunting and flags .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on May 03, 2018, 04:36:12 PM
Went in the bath today.

Don't know if there's any Youtube yet.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on May 03, 2018, 05:23:12 PM
Heavy lift cranes alongside that latest new build , doing the superstructure already  ? .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on May 03, 2018, 08:34:26 PM
Bookings on WB Yeats locked out until 2nd August 2018.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on May 10, 2018, 01:50:06 PM
FSG plan to hand over WB Yeats to Irish Ferries on or around 13 th July 2018
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on May 10, 2018, 09:02:36 PM
FSG plan to hand over WB Yeats to Irish Ferries on or around 13 th July 2018

Is that after sea trials ?, suppose it would be, as shipyard does not transfer ownership until owner accepts and pays for vessel in normal situations. Hopefully everything will run smoothly.

On another point, anyone know where the crew are coming from to run the WB, as it is an additional vessel they would require two full sets of crew, which can obviously be made up of existing and new crew, quite a logistical nightmare fir the HR provider Matrix I would imagine.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on May 10, 2018, 09:48:04 PM
FSG plan to hand over WB Yeats to Irish Ferries on or around 13 th July 2018

Not much margin for problems........
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on May 11, 2018, 06:21:19 AM
FSG plan to hand over WB Yeats to Irish Ferries on or around 13 th July 2018
And guess what day of the week July 13 th is , Friday
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on May 11, 2018, 08:26:07 AM
Ship handover is subject to IF Ferries acceptance during sea trials

I saw an article by the polish shipbuilders who manufactured the superstructure and some of the modules were 80 % complete including ducting and wiring when they shipped from Gadansk,

I saw a mobile drill being removed from the ship on Wednesday.

I notice the air conditioning ducts are now removed from back windows so she must have some form of air conditioning now,
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on May 11, 2018, 10:32:41 PM
Cost of new vessel delays to Irish Ferries - 2.8 million euro

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/cancelled-sailings-could-cost-irish-ferries-owner-up-to-2-8m-1.3490306


Cancelled sailings could cost Irish Ferries owner up to €2.8m
Ciara O'Brien

Last Updated: Thursday, May 10, 2018, 15:22
Irish Continental Group (ICG) will face a bill of up to €2.8 million for cancelling scheduled Dublin-Cherbourg sailings on a new ferry whose delivery has been delayed.

ICG has cancelled several sailings of its new vessel, the WB Yeats after its German builder told the company that the ferry would not be ready for its scheduled mid-July launch.

Speaking after ICG’s annual general meeting in Dublin, chief executive Eamon Rothwell, said the company offered passengers booked to sail on the new craft the choice of travelling a day later or earlier on another ship, the Oscar Wilde, or their money back, as well as a €150 voucher against the cost of travelling to the continent in 2019.

ICG confirmed on Thursday that the cost of providing alternative berths on the Oscar Wilde would be €2.5 million, while Mr Rothwell noted that the vouchers could add €345,000 to this if all 2,300 affected passengers accept that offer.

“At this stage 94 per cent have chosen the option of sailing on the Oscar Wilde, 5 per cent have refused and 1 per cent have not decided,” Mr Rothwell said.

He pointed out that ICG deliberately reserved space on the Oscar Wilde in case there was a problem with the delivery of the WB Yeats.

Mr Rothwell indicated that he believed ICG had done more than legally required to compensate passengers whose trips the company cancelled.

Last month German shipbuilder Flensburger Shiffbau-Gessellschaft & Co told ICG that the WB Yeats would not be ready until “on or about” July 13th 2018 rather than its scheduled April delivery date.

As it takes weeks to prepare a ship for commercial sailing, the ferry company sought a replacement vessel. As it could not find a suitable one, it told passengers on April 20th that it would have to cancel scheduled journeys on the WB Yeats.

No guarantee

Mr Rothwell stressed that European shipbuilders generally deliver ordered vessels on time. He also warned that ICG could not guarantee that the Germany company would deliver the ship in July.

In a trading statement, ICG said that revenues rose to €96.4 million in the first four months of the year, a rise of 1.4 per cent year on year.

The ferries division saw a decline in sales, as lower charter income outweighed rises in passengers and freight. Total revenue for the period fell 2.4 per cent to €52.3 million, ICG said.

The company sold the Kaitaki in June 2017 and redeployed the Westpac Express from November 2017, bringing it into service on the Dublin - Holyhead route to replace the Jonathan Swift.

The sale of the Jonathan Swift, announced at the end of January 2018, boosted the company’s net cash to €69.3 million at the end of April, compared with €39.6 million at December 31st.

The company saw a rise of 2.4 per cent year on year in the number of cars carried on Irish Ferries, with a total of 100,400 for the period. Freight rose 3.9 per cent to 99,500 roll-on, roll off units. ICG’s business generates a higher proportion of its profit in the summer months.

ICG released capacity on the Oscar Wilde that had been held in case of delays, a move that had cost the company €2.5 million in lost revenue but allowed customers affected by the cancelled sailings the chance to sail the day before or the day after their planned sailing. ICG has also provided affected customers with a voucher for €150 towards a sailing to the Continent in 2019.

ICG said most customers had chosen to reroute, with 5 per cent seeking a refund and 1 per cent yet to make a decision.

In ICG’s container and terminal division, total revenues rose 6.1 per cent to €46.8 million. Volumes shipped up to May 8th were up 1.1 per cent to 116,400 20-foot equivalent units, with the number of units handled at ICG’s terminals in Dublin and Belfast up 4.8 per cent year on year to 109,000 lifts.

© 2018 irishtimes.com

Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on May 13, 2018, 06:57:00 AM
FSG plan to hand over WB Yeats to Irish Ferries on or around 13 th July 2018

Not much margin for problems........
No, especially ones that would require her to go back to the builder!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: The insider on May 13, 2018, 01:11:25 PM
Regarding crew  it's going  to eastern  European  as usual. .what  a shame no local jobs   
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on June 01, 2018, 01:30:13 PM
We now have a bow on view from the camera .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on June 02, 2018, 04:32:59 PM
I keep checking to see if her AIS transponder has fired up yet, but nothing to date I'm afraid.

Incidentally, there is an Irish patrol vessel that goes by the name of William Butler Yeats.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on June 02, 2018, 04:46:31 PM
She looks great, hopefully the sea trials will begin soon.

There are rumours that the fitout is not yet complete, however this could happen after or during the sea trials.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on June 08, 2018, 11:05:05 AM
Noted from Matrix social media that some bridge staff have been reassigned and are on the way to Flensburg.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on June 08, 2018, 11:13:03 AM
The FSG webcamof the pier is now unaccessable and is looking for username and password. No such problems vewing the building hall webcam though.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on June 08, 2018, 02:05:58 PM
Access is now by way of pay per view to earn some lost revenue .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on June 08, 2018, 04:14:31 PM
Sky Sports ;D ;D
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on June 09, 2018, 12:18:57 AM
The FSG webcamof the pier is now unaccessable and is looking for username and password. No such problems vewing the building hall webcam though.
Has anyone actually physically seen this vessel or are we just relying on photographs and dodgy webcam pictures?  Could it all be fabricated, like some say the moon landings were?















Only joking!  Probably just some sort of network reconfiguration error  :o
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on June 09, 2018, 12:40:25 AM
Does the ship really exist? :o :D
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on June 09, 2018, 12:46:26 AM
Does the ship really exist? :o :D
My man in Germany says she does and even sent some photos, but are they to be trusted?  He could be in on the conspiracy  :o :P

In all seriousness, from pictures taken this morning she looks very.... unfinished.  Still a month or so to go though!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on June 09, 2018, 10:59:03 AM
There were nice photos appeared yesterday. As Steven says there is a lot of work still to do, It is still carrying its floating workshop on the stern.

I understood that Bridge crew were on the way to flemsburg presumably for familiarisation prior to sea trials.

This would suggest sea trials are two to three weeks away at best.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ccs on June 12, 2018, 03:27:18 PM
All sailings on WB Yeats cancelled
https://www.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/irish-ferries-cancels-all-summer-sailings-on-new-wb-yeats-ferry-37002317.html (https://www.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/irish-ferries-cancels-all-summer-sailings-on-new-wb-yeats-ferry-37002317.html)

Up to 19,000 passengers have had their holiday plans thrown into disarray this afternoon as Irish Ferries announces further delays to the arrival of its W.B. Yeats cruise ferry.

The €147m ship was due to start sailing between Ireland and France and the UK from July 30, but all sailings up to September have now been cancelled.

"Irish Ferries regrets to announce that, due to extraordinary circumstances beyond its control, the delivery of the W.B. Yeats has been further delayed by FSG," it said.

'FSG' refers to Flensburger Schiffbau-Gesellschaft & Co.KG, the German shipbuilder charged with delivering the state-of-the-art ship.

Approximately 6,000 bookings will be impacted by the delays, Irish Ferries has confirmed - or up to 19,000 passengers.

This is the second delay to impact passengers booked onto the W.B. Yeats. Last April, thousands had their holiday plans disrupted when Irish Ferries cancelled sailings booked between July 12 and 29.

"Because of the uncertainty caused by this additional delay, Irish Ferries has no option but to cancel all the planned sailings to France for W.B. Yeats this Summer, with the ship now likely to commence sailing with Irish Ferries on Dublin / Holyhead as scheduled in September," it said.

The company is contacting affected customers this afternoon to inform them of the cancellations, offer alternative travel options, and apologise for the disruption to their travel arrangements, it added.

Under EU regulations, passengers whose ferry sailings are cancelled or delayed by more than 90 minutes have a right to a re-routing or a full reimbursement of the ticket price within seven days.

    Q&A: What are my rights if my ferry is cancelled or delayed?

Irish Ferries says affected customers are now being offered a number of alternative travel options, including:

    Alternative direct sailings to France on the Oscar Wilde
    A ‘land-bridge’ option i.e. sailing to the UK (from either Dublin or Rosslare) and then to France
    A "full and immediate" refund

Customers who choose the land-bridge option will also be reimbursed the cost of their fuel requirements from the port of arrival in the UK to the port of arrival in France, the company says.

In addition, as it did last April, Irish Ferries is offering each affected customer a €150 voucher which it says can be used on Ireland-France routes "next year".

"Irish Ferries very much regrets the inconvenience these cancellations cause our customers and hopes that as many as possible will choose to be accommodated via the company’s alternative arrangements and continue with their holiday plans," it said.

Affected customers can contact the company directly on +353 (0) 818 300 400 or email [email protected]

Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on June 12, 2018, 05:08:29 PM
W.B. Yeats Update
12 JUN 2018
Press Release 12th June 2018 3pm 

Irish Ferries Regrets to Announce Further Delay to W.B. Yeats

German shipbuilder, Flensburger Schiffbau-Gesellschaft & Co.KG (FSG), has advised Irish Ferries of a further delay to the delivery of the W.B. Yeats

New ship was due to commence sailings between Ireland and France from the 30th July 2018

Irish Ferries regrets to announce that, due to extraordinary circumstances beyond its control, the delivery of the W.B. Yeats has been further delayed by FSG. Because of the uncertainty caused by this additional delay, Irish Ferries has no option but to cancel all the planned sailings to France for W.B. Yeats this Summer, with the ship now likely to commence sailing with Irish Ferries on Dublin / Holyhead as scheduled in September. Irish Ferries is contacting affected customers this afternoon to inform them of the cancellations, offer them alternative travel options, and apologise for the disruption to their travel arrangements.

Approximately 6,000 bookings will be impacted by this issue.  Customers affected are being offered a number of alternative travel options e.g. alternative direct sailings on the Oscar Wilde, or a ‘land-bridge’ option i.e. sailing to the UK (from either Dublin or Rosslare) and then to France (Customers who choose the land-bridge option, will also be reimbursed the cost of their fuel requirements from the port of arrival in the UK to the port of arrival in France).If alternative travel arrangements do not suit, customers will, of course, be entitled to a full and immediate refund of all monies paid.

Irish Ferries was previously forced to cancel July sailings for the W.B. Yeats when they were informed in April by FSG, of the initial delay.  Approximately 2,500 bookings were impacted by the earlier cancellation, however, 95% of those chose to switch to Irish Ferries’ other cruise ferry, the Oscar Wilde.

Irish Ferries very much regrets the inconvenience these cancellations cause our customers and hopes that as many as possible will choose to be accommodated via the company’s alternative arrangements and continue with their holiday plans. As valued customers of Irish Ferries, we are offering each affected customer a €150 voucher which can be used on any of our Ireland-France routes next year.

Irish Ferries is contacting customers directly, however, any customers who wish to contact Irish Ferries can call +353 (0) 818 300 400 or email [email protected]

Ends
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on June 15, 2018, 04:04:53 PM
If you review the different communications released by Irish Ferries and FSG since WB Yeats was ordered the number of cabins varies,

Originally 435 Cabins for 1900 passengers and crew.

2800 lane metres plus dedicated car deck for 300 cars

Irish Continental Market Presentation March 2017 and Dec 29 2017 and per Irish Ferries Website.

440 Cabins for 1885 passengers and crew,

2800 lane metres plus dedicated car deck for 300 cars


FSG Media Release 12 June 2018

455 Passenger Cabins Plus 60 Crew Cabins for 1885 Passengers and Crew.

2800 lane metres , No mention of dedicated car deck for 300 cars

Question: Did they loose part of the dedicated car deck to install the 60 crew cabins.

There was some speculation a few weeks ago that the crew cabins were not ready.

The Devil is in the detail.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on June 18, 2018, 03:10:28 PM
The FSG Pier Webcam is now back working.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: SEA on June 19, 2018, 01:55:36 PM
The FSG Web cam is back up and running, Ship looks its way off completion 
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on June 19, 2018, 03:43:20 PM
Ship looks great.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on June 25, 2018, 07:26:17 PM
WB Yeats Transponder is now working.  :)
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on July 03, 2018, 08:09:50 AM
All sorts of speculation flying around as to what the exact delay is and who is responsible.

Meanwhile, there’s no W.B. YEATS on the If timetable at all now.  Her place has been taken by...  OSCAR WILDE.  Could be an issue for freight if things stay that way.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on December 14, 2018, 12:05:50 PM
As expected, Honfleur launched this morning at FSG.

I've just read on another forum that the second IF build will be the next one to go down on the blocks. Can anybody confirm this?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on December 14, 2018, 12:16:33 PM
There are 2 Ro-Ro freighters before Hull 777
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on December 14, 2018, 09:13:23 PM
German shipbuilder Flensburger Schiffbau-Gesellschaft (FSG) has secured orders for two additional Roll-on Roll-off (RoRo) ferries from Siem Car Carriers, according to Clarksons Platou Shipbroking report.

The two 4,000 lane meter RoRos are due for delivery in the second half of 2019.

FSG is about to deliver two 11,000 dwt RoRo ships to Siem Group.

Named Alf Polak and Maria Gracia Onorato, the duo will be chartered in by Italian shipping company Onorato Armatori once delivered. Onorato Armatori plans to deploy the RoRo ferries on routes between Sardinia and Sicily.

They will be the largest RoRo ships in the Mediterranean, as they can carry up to 310 semi-trailers, according to FSG.

World Maritime News Staff

Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on December 14, 2018, 09:37:10 PM
Here is Flemsburg current production plan.

 9857274 Flensburger Schiffbau-Gesellschaft mbH & Co. KG  TT-Line Tasmania RoPax-ferry  6000 0 on order 2021/07
 9857262 Flensburger Schiffbau-Gesellschaft mbH & Co. KG  TT-Line Tasmania RoPax-ferry  6000 0 on order 2021/03
 9847530 Flensburger Schiffbau-Gesellschaft mbH & Co. KG 777 Irish Continental Group Plc. RoPax-ferry  12000 on order 2020/04
 9869966 Flensburger Schiffbau-Gesellschaft mbH & Co. KG 781 Siem Car Carriers AS RoRo cargo  11978 0 on order 2019/10
 9869954 Flensburger Schiffbau-Gesellschaft mbH & Co. KG 780 Siem Car Carriers AS RoRo cargo  11978 0 on order 2019/08
 9832119 Flensburger Schiffbau-Gesellschaft mbH & Co. KG 774 Brittany Ferries (BAI) S.A. RoPax-ferry Honfleur 6000 on order
2019/04
 9848479 Flensburger Schiffbau-Gesellschaft mbH & Co. KG 776 Siem Car Carriers AS RoRo cargo Maria Grazia Onorato 11978  on order 2019/01
 
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Jamie1608 on December 15, 2018, 08:30:24 PM
Looks like she’s going the wrong way for the Kiel canal
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on December 16, 2018, 02:04:10 PM
She went under the great belt bridge about 2200 last night.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on December 18, 2018, 08:10:27 AM


They will be the largest RoRo ships in the Mediterranean, as they can carry up to 310 semi-trailers, according to FSG.

World Maritime News Staff
Or not.  Seems there has been a change of heart and Alf Pollak has been chartered to CLdN/Cobelfet.  Looks like her sister might be chartered out as well.  Onorato are saying there isn't yet the demand in the med to justify deploying them there.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Jamie1608 on December 18, 2018, 01:29:14 PM


They will be the largest RoRo ships in the Mediterranean, as they can carry up to 310 semi-trailers, according to FSG.

World Maritime News Staff
Or not.  Seems there has been a change of heart and Alf Pollak has been chartered to CLdN/Cobelfet.  Looks like her sister might be chartered out as well.  Onorato are saying there isn't yet the demand in the med to justify deploying them there.

Why is on its way to the med
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on December 19, 2018, 09:00:40 AM
There could be capacity available for Stena if the price is right,
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on December 20, 2018, 07:25:57 AM


They will be the largest RoRo ships in the Mediterranean, as they can carry up to 310 semi-trailers, according to FSG.

World Maritime News Staff
Or not.  Seems there has been a change of heart and Alf Pollak has been chartered to CLdN/Cobelfet.  Looks like her sister might be chartered out as well.  Onorato are saying there isn't yet the demand in the med to justify deploying them there.

Why is on its way to the med
Theres a big dispute going on in Italy regarding the takeover of Tirrenia by Onorato.  Onorato are in the process of effectively merging Moby into the holding company of Tirrenia and it hasn't gone down well - it seems promises were made about investing in Tirrenia, yet Onorato have said they plan to sell 6 ships in the next 3 years and have also chartered out this new tonnage. 
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on December 20, 2018, 08:08:25 PM
Lets hope Oscar Wilde is not already sold to Moby,
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on December 28, 2018, 10:01:27 PM


They will be the largest RoRo ships in the Mediterranean, as they can carry up to 310 semi-trailers, according to FSG.

World Maritime News Staff
Or not.  Seems there has been a change of heart and Alf Pollak has been chartered to CLdN/Cobelfet.  Looks like her sister might be chartered out as well.  Onorato are saying there isn't yet the demand in the med to justify deploying them there.

Why is on its way to the med

A further twist.  She’s on charter to DFDS for their Turkish operation now!!!!!