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Investment at Rosslare Europort

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DaveW1946

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Is the 1 hour difference between WBY and Stena Horizon because  WBY is a faster ship?
Speed and  distance , Dublin is only 67 nautical miles further from Cherbourg ,
On Monday's sailing WB Yeats was an hour late into Cherbourg on Tuesday, and a similar amount on a return trip we did at the end of May.

hhvferry

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Cost per combined passenger and freight unit will be lower when she is full.
WBY would have to be going some to be more cost efficient than a Visentini.

IFPete

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Thats why Epsilon will run on the Dublin - Cherbourg during the winter.

Steven

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you still have to get to rosslare.
The M11 will soon open up as far as Oilgate later this year, and environmental impact investigations will start soon for the last leg to Rosslare. Such investment suggests someone has got faith in Rosslare as a valuable port. Also saves extra four hours on ferry to France, even quicker if Roscoff is in the equation.
Relatively recently a lovely road to Larne was built which resulted in a total of zero extra services and no increase in demand either to speak of.  Its also closer to Scotland than Belfast  ::).  Don't underestimate how much most people value the convenience of a port near their doorstep.  In fact, is that not what this whole Ireland to France "debate" is all about - people in Wexford and other places convenient to Rosslare not being happy because they have to do what people in Dublin (which is by far the largest population centre in the country, not to mention its convenience for those of us to its North) have had to do all along?  The new road argument could be flipped on its head as making it easier for people around Rosslare to get to the Dublin services anyway!

It only takes a look at a population density map to see why Dublin has been chosen by Irish Ferries now they have got the crossing time down to a similar duration (as well as why Dublin appears to get more investment)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Population_density_of_Ireland_map2002.svg

That doesn't mean that there should be no investment in Rosslare at all either as there is obviously still demand there for services to Great Britain, just not enough for two services to France plus the services from Cork and Dublin!  There is only so much traffic to go around.

In any case, was this thread not supposed to be about investment in Rosslare rather than moaning about Dublin? 
Last Edit: July 20, 2019, 04:30:01 PM by Steven
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DaveW1946

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Whilst the M-way argument does work both ways, the access/egress to Dublin is appalling. The queues for the tunnel, the badly maintained approach roads, lots more HGV traffic, nowhere to park up if you're early, and no services bar for the terminal. Plus the WBY never arrives on time, and I don't mean by a few minutes (been on it three times this year and been an hour late at least even in good weather). Anyway why did IF dock the WBY at Rosslare as its' first stop in Ireland?

ferryfan

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Whilst the M-way argument does work both ways, the access/egress to Dublin is appalling. The queues for the tunnel, the badly maintained approach roads, lots more HGV traffic, nowhere to park up if you're early, and no services bar for the terminal. Plus the WBY never arrives on time, and I don't mean by a few minutes (been on it three times this year and been an hour late at least even in good weather). Anyway why did IF dock the WBY at Rosslare as its' first stop in Ireland?

It is possible that the WB will in the future provide cover for the IOI when she is dry docked, she was never intended to provide a Ireland France service from Rosslare.

ccs

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Whilst the M-way argument does work both ways, the access/egress to Dublin is appalling. The queues for the tunnel, the badly maintained approach roads, lots more HGV traffic, nowhere to park up if you're early, and no services bar for the terminal.

Sums it up for me. I live in Cork so the drive to either Dublin or Rosslare is much of a much really but Rosslare is a much more pleasant experience for the reasons you,ve outlined.

IFPete

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Irish Ferries are learning some leasons with WB Yeats configuration on Dublin Cherbourg, Its not as suited to holiday traffic as Oscar Wilde. 

Dont be surpised if they have a 2nd vessel more suited to tourist traffic operating out of rosslare next summer.

giftgrub

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Two massive road projects had major milestones last weekend, as mentioned the M11 now starts just North of Oylegate, giving a journey time of 1hr30mins from South Dublin to Rosslare and the RFK bridge in New Ross had the deck completed with final concrete pour, linking Kilkenny and Wexford counties.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/bridging-the-barrow-irelands-longest-bridge-is-now-almost-complete-38333123.html

What has this got to do with a Rosslare ? It brings Rosslare closer to the rest of Ireland and will make it a more competitive destination for the ferry operators.

Depending on traffic to get from say Rathfarnham to Dublin port can take 45 minutes to an hour if you go M50, going through city center not really an option any more, to get to Rosslare is only 30 minutes more, with a far more relaxing terminal area and port arrival.

When the New Ross bypass opens the last major pinch point on the road from Cork to Rosslare will be gone (except Killeagh and Castlemartyr) making it easier again to travel on the Southern route.

Rosslare port needs to capitalize on these road improvements and start advertising the benefits for self loading freight ie regular cars and passengers !
Last Edit: July 23, 2019, 09:42:07 PM by giftgrub