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The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
Last post by Niall - March 28, 2024, 09:43:56 PM
Quote from: boathansm on March 28, 2024, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Ferriesbetterfastercheape on March 28, 2024, 03:49:21 PMOwner of Stena Horizon is still the Visentini-yard.
B) Anything in Frederikshavn with Atlantic Vision is not working - too long for the port.

Superspeed 1 & 2 is 211m and can use Frederikshavn as a second dock when weather is bad in Hirtshals. Same as Stena Saga used and DFDS use now. Not twin loading, but that is possible to make.

Superfast ix is 203m.

 

It has been rumoured that Atlantic Vision will be going to Odense once she arrives back in Europe.
#2
The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
Last post by boathansm - March 28, 2024, 08:38:57 PM
Quote from: Ferriesbetterfastercheape on March 28, 2024, 03:49:21 PMOwner of Stena Horizon is still the Visentini-yard.
B) Anything in Frederikshavn with Atlantic Vision is not working - too long for the port.

Superspeed 1 & 2 is 211m and can use Frederikshavn as a second dock when weather is bad in Hirtshals. Same as Stena Saga used and DFDS use now. Not twin loading, but that is possible to make.

Superfast ix is 203m.

 
#3
The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
Last post by giftgrub - March 28, 2024, 04:09:07 PM
Quote from: boathansm on March 28, 2024, 10:02:30 AMIs Stena Horizon still chartered to Stena Line? When does her contract expire?

Would assume yes, don't recall any purchase announcement, think its charter fee is around $20,000 per day (going on memory from when it was renewed.
#4
The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
Last post by Ferriesbetterfastercheape - March 28, 2024, 03:49:21 PM
Owner of Stena Horizon is still the Visentini-yard.
You think Stena could replace the Horizon with Atlantic Vision ?

Normally Stena was relative happy with this kind of freight-orientated Ropax with poor Pax-comfort - so i would be really surprised if they now would give back this ship and maybe replace it with the Atlantic Vision which has much higher operation-costs - and on last pictures she is looking also worned (= renovation is needed).

Sure - 1000 "wild" things are thinkable also here in a kind of Stena fleet-carousel, i try 2:
A) They could replace the only 2 days a week needed Stena Spirit in Karlskrona with (renovated) Atlantic Vision.
And then operate with Vision and Spirit the Cherbourg-route - a booming route which has highest ticket- and cabin-prices in Europe.
B) Anything in Frederikshavn with Atlantic Vision is not working - too long for the port.
But is still the big Adventurer needed in Holyhead if now 3000 lm are new on the Liverpool-Dublin freight-route with Bore Song ? I guess that especially a lot of trailer-customers will prefer now the Liverpool route - instead of to pay a truck-driver + fuel-costs up to Holyhead and back. So more freight at Liverpool means less freight for Estrid and Adventurer. So Atlantic Vision could replace Adventurer, then timetable-change with Estrid, and Adventurer replace Horizon - and if they want continue longer with Horizon and want furthermore downsizing of Pax-capacities the Horizon could replace the Jutlandica, and Jutlandica replace Danica. This route is much downrunned in the last 20 years - i am 100% sure that there is not 1 dep. anymore with more than 1000 Pax onboard of Danica. So in summary a 2002 built Superfast would replace the 42-years old big Danica (which her bigger crew, higher fuel-costs etc.). 

But would be nevertheless surprising if Stena want really use the Atlantic Vision on her own routes now after selling a sisterferry just a few years ago. Furthermore they know her own charter-contract with Visentini about the Horizon - so if they wanted to replace this ferry - why then they have not ordered any E-Flexer (300 - 500 or the normal 927) in the wished size ? Would be with much lower operation-costs than a 22-years old Superfast.

So i believe more that this Superfast will be chartered (or sold) to another ferry-company.
But who knows - in last years happened a number of surprising things in ferry-business... .   
#5
The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
Last post by boathansm - March 28, 2024, 10:02:30 AM
Is Stena Horizon still chartered to Stena Line? When does her contract expire?
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The News Board / Re: Stena Line fleet movements
Last post by giftgrub - March 28, 2024, 07:48:42 AM
Don't remember too many sunny evenings like this recently, but link below is to a nice drone shot video of the Stena Europe docking in Rosslare.

A sight that will end soon as it is due to leave the Stena Line Irish Sea fleet once the Bore Song arrives to release the Stena Nordica back to its own route and assuming the jack up rig is returned to service in Fishguard.

https://youtu.be/_2ySXE2lTCY
#7
The News Board / Re: Irish Ferries Fleet moveme...
Last post by boathansm - March 28, 2024, 02:39:35 AM
Quote from: giftgrub on March 25, 2024, 10:18:27 PM
Quote from: Niall on March 25, 2024, 08:42:38 PMIt seems almot certain that Atlantic Vision will not be joining Irish Ferries

Unconfirmed reports on Facebook that a Stena crew are onboard preparing the Atlantic Vision for its return to Europe, more likely a Tallink crew but you never know what's happening next.

Some updates here about manager. 

https://vesselregister.dnv.com/vesselregister/details/31780
#8
The News Board / Re: Irish Ferries Fleet moveme...
Last post by Ferriesbetterfastercheape - March 27, 2024, 07:55:05 PM
Quote from: giftgrub on March 26, 2024, 05:52:24 PMStill strange to sell such a modern ship to a direct competitor

If P&O really sell a Spirit-ferry now to Irish Ferries - especially for operation on Dover-Calais - this would be against all normal business rules.
And was therefore also not expected or speculated from me.
So in fact Irish Ferries is the big "Dover-winner" get the wished much bigger capacity and can further develop this very very important route. Also positive for all customers and travelers - with more free space onboard Irish Ferries can offer also in future lower ticket-prices.

But the strategy from P&O i can not understand... .

Quote from: IFPete on March 27, 2024, 10:50:46 AMIrish Ferries may be in the market for two ferries. One for Rosslare - Pembroke and another for Dublin - Cherbourg.

This was also my opinion.
If possible they must try to operate the Cherbourg-route with 2 ferries permanently.
And one ferry as Oscar Wilde, Inishmore or a Superfast for Pembroke.
And two big ferries + Cat on Holyhead-Dublin.

So they need in fact more than 1 new used ferry now.
They are in a good financial position also - so it is no problem to buy (or charter) now 2 or 3 used ferries also.

Think my proposal for "from 2025":
Dover: Ulysses, Spirit (of Ireland ?), Inishmore (would be more capacity than P&O !)
Holyhead: Oscar Wilde, 1st Australian Superfast, Swift
Pembroke: Atlantic Vision Superfast
Cherbourg: WB Yeats and 2nd Australian Superfast
Leave the fleet: Inisheer and Innisfree

Results:
1) On all routes a very good - or best - offer for all customer-groups in capacity and comfort.
2) The both oldest / less comfortable ferries away = in summary a much better, bigger,newer fleet.
3) And all this with relative low investments without any expensive new-buildings.

#9
Not to believe... - instead of to buy now any newer used bigger (the limited capacities are also a big problem there) ferry they are coming with ideas of life-extension of 30-years old ferries !

Maybe the Kaitaki was a nice ferry in the 90ies - but she has had really dangerous big problems in the last years - what can happen at drifting without power is to be seen just now in Baltimore - and the New zealand street is a much more dangerous water with high waves and strong winds. She need to replace as the both other old ferries too - and to spend in 2025 many millions for any lifetime extension is in my opinion complete nonsense. Also f.ex. Stena will never again doing such an operation as with the Stena Europe life-extension.

Typically for a state-owned-company like Kiwi-rail - they spend tons of money without end for one wrong solution after the next wrong solution !
#10
The News Board / Re: Irish Ferries Fleet moveme...
Last post by IFPete - March 27, 2024, 10:50:46 AM
Irish Ferries may be in the market for two ferries. One for Rosslare - Pembroke and another for Dublin - Cherbourg.