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Title: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Meet the dockers on February 02, 2017, 10:38:10 AM
Anyone heard any updates on how the new IF ship is progressing in the yard? Is it still on target to be in service next year?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on February 02, 2017, 10:41:02 AM
Anyone heard any updates on how the new IF ship is progressing in the yard? Is it still on target to be in service next year?

I would imagine it's a bit early to say much either way?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on February 02, 2017, 12:28:03 PM
Here's the building hall webcam.  Looks like hey are building one of their freight roro's to me

http://31.209.185.103/view/viewer_index.shtml?id=125901
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: NathanBrady on February 02, 2017, 06:44:02 PM
Here's the building hall webcam.  Looks like hey are building one of their freight roro's to me

http://31.209.185.103/view/viewer_index.shtml?id=125901
Someone can keep watch and let de rest of us know when it starts
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on February 14, 2017, 09:23:33 PM
Here's the building hall webcam.  Looks like hey are building one of their freight roro's to me

http://31.209.185.103/view/viewer_index.shtml?id=125901
Someone can keep watch and let de rest of us know when it starts
Still looks like a roro to me.  They are working late tonight!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: NathanBrady on February 15, 2017, 04:24:33 PM
Here's the building hall webcam.  Looks like hey are building one of their freight roro's to me

http://31.209.185.103/view/viewer_index.shtml?id=125901
Someone can keep watch and let de rest of us know when it starts
Still looks like a roro to me.  They are working late tonight!
Do dey use cheap Asian labour in that yard?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: SEA on February 17, 2017, 04:09:27 PM
The ship in fleinsburger shipyard has being Launched.Next up Irish ferries new build .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on February 17, 2017, 05:07:21 PM
The ship in fleinsburger shipyard has being Launched.Next up Irish ferries new build .

There are 3 more roros ahead of it!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on February 17, 2017, 05:43:30 PM
I believe the ship just launched is yard no 770 and Irish Ferries yard no is 771 so it looks like the ferry is next . If they built three Ro Ro,s  before it they would never meet the May2018 delivery date .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on February 17, 2017, 05:57:59 PM
The heavy lift floating crane Samson is alongside the latest new launch with the superstructure already .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on February 17, 2017, 08:24:11 PM
I believe the ship just launched is yard no 770 and Irish Ferries yard no is 771 so it looks like the ferry is next . If they built three Ro Ro,s  before it they would never meet the May2018 delivery date .

Yard numbers aren't necessarily a guide to the order of building.

The ship launched today is actually yard number 772 and due for delivery May/June.  The other DFDS ship is number 773 and due for delivery in September. 

669 is due to be handed over shortly to EKOL and 770 also for EKOL is due for delivery March 2018.

Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on February 17, 2017, 08:26:36 PM
I believe the ship just launched is yard no 770 and Irish Ferries yard no is 771 so it looks like the ferry is next . If they built three Ro Ro,s  before it they would never meet the May2018 delivery date .

Gardenia Seaways which was launched today is 772. As I understand 773 will be next followed by 771. The latter is scheduled for delivery in May 2018.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on February 17, 2017, 08:33:24 PM
Lots of overtime at that yard .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on February 18, 2017, 04:33:12 AM
I believe the ship just launched is yard no 770 and Irish Ferries yard no is 771 so it looks like the ferry is next . If they built three Ro Ro,s  before it they would never meet the May2018 delivery date .

Yard numbers aren't necessarily a guide to the order of building.

The ship launched today is actually yard number 772 and due for delivery May/June.  The other DFDS ship is number 773 and due for delivery in September. 

669 is due to be handed over shortly to EKOL and 770 also for EKOL is due for delivery March 2018.


Just goes to show what an efficient operation they are running over there, and perhaps how unlike many other European yards they have been able to compete with the Far East. 


I believe the ship just launched is yard no 770 and Irish Ferries yard no is 771 so it looks like the ferry is next . If they built three Ro Ro,s  before it they would never meet the May2018 delivery date .

You'd be surprised how quick these guys are.  Remember, its all modular construction, and different parts of the vessel will be constructed simultaneously in different areas of the yard (and perhaps even at other locations) then married together.  The days of simply building a vessel from the keel upwards are gone.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on February 18, 2017, 07:30:47 AM
I believe the ship just launched is yard no 770 and Irish Ferries yard no is 771 so it looks like the ferry is next . If they built three Ro Ro,s  before it they would never meet the May2018 delivery date .

Yard numbers aren't necessarily a guide to the order of building.

The ship launched today is actually yard number 772 and due for delivery May/June.  The other DFDS ship is number 773 and due for delivery in September. 

669 is due to be handed over shortly to EKOL and 770 also for EKOL is due for delivery March 2018.


Just goes to show what an efficient operation they are running over there, and perhaps how unlike many other European yards they have been able to compete with the Far East. 


I believe the ship just launched is yard no 770 and Irish Ferries yard no is 771 so it looks like the ferry is next . If they built three Ro Ro,s  before it they would never meet the May2018 delivery date .

You'd be surprised how quick these guys are.  Remember, its all modular construction, and different parts of the vessel will be constructed simultaneously in different areas of the yard (and perhaps even at other locations) then married together.  The days of simply building a vessel from the keel upwards are gone.

Turns out Gardenia Seaways superstructure was actually built at Gdansk and brought to the yard by barge.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: SEA on February 18, 2017, 09:31:28 AM
Yes it's a small amount of speculation on my behalf. I did hear that work has already begun on the modules and the keel is to be laid in March . Apologies for being overspeculative
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: NathanBrady on February 18, 2017, 02:16:56 PM
why is everyone always apologising in here?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on February 18, 2017, 07:38:46 PM
As is the superstructure for the new IF build .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on February 20, 2017, 03:28:41 PM
Keel laid for sister ship to Gardenia Seaways for DFDS this morning. The new ship is yard no 773 and will be launched in May.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on March 04, 2017, 08:38:17 AM
Looks like some prefabricated sections arrived by barge this morning. The dock gate is removed and the sections are being taken to the back of the building hall just out of the camera view .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on March 04, 2017, 01:11:36 PM
What was delivered was the stern ramp for DFDS new build 773.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on March 08, 2017, 07:37:14 PM
FSG have a good reputation for delivering on-time, so I wouldn't worry too much about the lack of visible progress.  Heres the other (outside) webcam http://31.209.185.102/view/viewer_index.shtml?id=114000

Keel laid for sister ship to Gardenia Seaways for DFDS this morning. The new ship is yard no 773 and will be launched in May.
A while to go yet before the ICG keel is laid, or parts of the superstructure start arriving then!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on March 10, 2017, 11:14:10 AM
It's beginning to look like something now!

I find it somewhat embarrasing that, despite our shipbulding history, that we can't do something like this on home soil, at least not economically.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on April 04, 2017, 08:09:48 PM
Up and up it goes , it's like playing with a big Mechano  set
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on April 10, 2017, 12:12:44 PM
In case anyone is confused it is not the IF newbuild that you see on the FSG webcam.
Last Friday the 7th April the senior management of ICG were at the FSG yard to witness the first steel being cut for the new ship yard no.771.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on April 10, 2017, 07:49:10 PM
Up and up it goes , it's like playing with a big Mechano  set
I should have clarified that .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on April 12, 2017, 03:13:40 AM
For those that haven't heard, the first steel was cut over the weekend with Eamonn Rothwell in attendance.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on April 20, 2017, 04:52:02 PM
Article in today's financial section of the Irish Independent in relation to the new build and it stated that the ship will operate Dublin to Holyhead midweek and Dublin to Cherbourg  on the weekends .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: RorieLen on April 21, 2017, 07:24:01 AM
Article in today's financial section of the Irish Independent in relation to the new build and it stated that the ship will operate Dublin to Holyhead midweek and Dublin to Cherbourg  on the weekends .

To be fair, this is what Irish Ferries have said all along!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: FerryMan on April 21, 2017, 11:45:02 AM
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Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on April 22, 2017, 10:09:41 PM
I wonder if they will take up the option on a second.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on April 23, 2017, 08:13:33 PM
I wonder if they will take up the option on a second.
Could do a lot worse if the finances are in place!  I'm sure there would be demand for such a vessel on the charter market for instance.


Speaking of finance, it has been reported that ICG are bidding for a €75m loan from the European Investment Bank to cover half the costs of the new build.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on May 03, 2017, 11:25:05 AM
The bow has gone on build 773 this morning.

I keep looking regularly but always manage to miss them hoisting the big bits into place.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on May 03, 2017, 09:07:56 PM
The bow has gone on build 773 this morning.

I keep looking regularly but always manage to miss them hoisting the big bits into place.
Me to .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on May 03, 2017, 09:12:38 PM
Plus one of those gantry crane operators  is very casual , always putting his feet up .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on May 03, 2017, 10:51:21 PM
Aye, I've noticed that. Must be a great job! Wonder if he's got a telly in there?  ;D
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on May 22, 2017, 12:59:36 AM
Anybody know when Yard No 773 is due to be launched? Back in reply #18 it says May. Not long to go then?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on May 24, 2017, 06:25:47 PM
I may be wrong , but what looks like the seating platform for a launch ceremony appears to be being assembled .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on May 24, 2017, 06:38:15 PM
I noticed that earlier, and thought the same. Surely, she will have to have her painting completed first though?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on May 24, 2017, 07:07:46 PM
I noticed that earlier, and thought the same. Surely, she will have to have her painting completed first though?
Well the area below the waterline would be . I have seen some being launched with the remainder of the hull done after launch . Not too sure if that temporary opening in the hull just aft of the thrusters has been sealed up yet , you can still see the scaffold /stairs still in position .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on May 24, 2017, 11:39:40 PM
Ive just watched a few of their launches on Youtube. They seem to be quite big occasions. All were fully painted, and named up, although one (Yard 757 Oceanix) went down with half the scaffolding still attached.

Here's 768 getting her first bath:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OANHE95XLY8
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on June 07, 2017, 11:49:54 AM
Looks like the name for 773 is Fuschia Seaways!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on June 08, 2017, 12:09:20 AM
Looks like the name for 773 is Fuschia Seaways!

I am not sure of the exact name and we will see on Friday but looks like it begins with a T rather than an F.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on June 08, 2017, 10:38:50 AM
It's Tuilpa Seaways
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on June 12, 2017, 03:36:58 PM
So, is this the first part of 771 we now see on the slipway?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on July 15, 2017, 10:13:13 AM
Still wondering if the build on the Flensberger webcam is the new Irish Ferries vessel. Looks a little small to me -however she is far from finished yet.

Is there any way of knowing?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on July 15, 2017, 05:19:17 PM
Yes it does look like another RoRo , i would think the new IF build would be wider , anyway let's keep guessing were all the sections lying around are going to go on this one .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on July 15, 2017, 10:41:26 PM
Yes it looks like EKOL's 2nd RoRo Fadiq which is being built. The outer hull sections seem to be painted blue.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Meet the dockers on September 04, 2017, 09:32:34 AM
As expected by many posters on this forum, IF is to name the new ship with an Irish literary name. Full details available at www.bigshipbigname.com, including a possible prize of free transport with IF for life...what better prize for forum members here!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on September 07, 2017, 12:08:18 AM
Looks like the current build may be hitting the water this week. They are doing final painting and the dais has been set up.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on September 07, 2017, 12:18:45 PM
FADIQ was launched this morning and has just now been moved to the outfitting quay at FSG.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on September 09, 2017, 09:06:47 PM
As expected by many posters on this forum, IF is to name the new ship with an Irish literary name. Full details available at www.bigshipbigname.com, including a possible prize of free transport with IF for life...what better prize for forum members here!
Well the Naval Service have taken the remaining name choices , Irish Ferries may have ship named the  MV Roddy Doyle in service .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on September 10, 2017, 10:35:13 AM
I entered my suggestion of "Pygmalion" - George Bernard Shaw's famous play.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on September 11, 2017, 12:03:23 PM
Stage is set for the keel laying ceremony.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on September 11, 2017, 12:12:04 PM
Keel was laid this morning following the usual ceremony at FSG.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on September 11, 2017, 07:19:08 PM
Looks like another RO RO vessel to me looked like this when they started the last one
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on September 11, 2017, 07:20:33 PM
FSG shipyard webcam

http://31.209.185.103/view/viewer_index.shtml?id=398858
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: mightymax23 on September 11, 2017, 07:41:23 PM
not according to the independent  ;) ;)
http://m.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/first-look-the-144m-ship-irish-ferries-wants-you-to-name-36120553.html
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on September 11, 2017, 07:59:40 PM
Looks like another RO RO vessel to me looked like this when they started the last one

No Matt it's definetly not another  Ro Ro. http://afloat.ie/port-news/ferry-news/item/37121-strong-irish-ferries-presence-at-keel-laying-ceremony.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Matt Cartmill on September 11, 2017, 08:56:09 PM
Thanks for the update guys 🙂
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: CH1 on September 27, 2017, 10:09:26 PM
Good evening guys,

On the shipbuilding hall webcam, we can clearly see the internal access ramp to the lower freight deck, which is a typical feature on ROPAXs ;) So it is certain that it is the new IF !

Rémi BUTEL, French OOW Cadet
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on September 28, 2017, 10:51:08 PM
ulysses a t'elle autant de cabines que la nouvelle construction? et pourrait elle faire route irlande france pour remplacer nouvelle construction si besoin?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on September 30, 2017, 12:55:46 PM
Big Name Reveal next Friday 6th October on the late late show.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: marthyrarth on September 30, 2017, 01:53:11 PM
Great news - is it possible to see the Late Late show here in the uk?  Probably not on freeview or freesat?

If not, on the web?

Seen lots of suggested names, but some people seem to forget it needs a literary connection.  Anyway the name will be more exiting than Superfast x.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on September 30, 2017, 02:59:07 PM
Great news - is it possible to see the Late Late show here in the uk?  Probably not on freeview or freesat?

If not, on the web?

Seen lots of suggested names, but some people seem to forget it needs a literary connection.  Anyway the name will be more exiting than Superfast x.
Not able to view the Late Late Show, lucky you.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 01, 2017, 08:08:32 AM
j'ai vu  un  ami qui est docker au port de cherbourg et m'a dit que la nouvelle construction touchera cherbourg plusieurs fois la semaine est- ce possible?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on October 01, 2017, 03:06:29 PM
j'ai vu  un  ami qui est docker au port de cherbourg et m'a dit que la nouvelle construction touchera cherbourg plusieurs fois la semaine est- ce possible?

At the moment the new build is expected to take the Epsilons schedule, which will mean a visit to Cherbourg at the weekend.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 01, 2017, 04:16:46 PM
vous ne pensez pas que la nouvelle construction est plus  concue pour les grandes lignes avec toutes ses cabines  avec balcons et ses restaurants 
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 01, 2017, 04:34:03 PM
souvent  surtout le dimanche à cherbourg pendant  l'été  il y a oscar wilde epsilon stena horizon ils sont tous complet
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Kieran on October 01, 2017, 06:29:37 PM
vous ne pensez pas que la nouvelle construction est plus  concue pour les grandes lignes avec toutes ses cabines  avec balcons et ses restaurants


Pouvez-vous publier en anglais s'il vous plaît? Une langue est plus facile pour travailler les forums.

In answer to your question, she was designed to be as flexible as possible. I would imagine you are correct, and she will develop the french routes, but as stated already, she is replacing the Epsilons, so will also be operating to the UK.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on October 02, 2017, 06:24:22 PM
All quiet on the building site today , bank holiday in Germany this week .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on October 03, 2017, 04:47:31 PM
Large bow section arrived by barge this morning .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on October 06, 2017, 10:40:15 AM
Looking at France timetable for next year one thing that strikes me is the increase of sailings to Roscoff, particularly in August? All questions should be answered in the coming days.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: marthyrarth on October 06, 2017, 10:51:02 PM
New ship name is W.B. Yeats! Maybe a bit conservative, but there are far worse names!

Going to Sligo next week and will be heading for the lake Isle of Innisfree and all things Yeats!!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ccs on October 06, 2017, 10:52:06 PM
New ship to be named "W.B, Yeats" Just announced on the Late Late Show
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on October 06, 2017, 11:09:30 PM
Strange the Irish navy already have a ship with that name? but I suppose as the IF ship won't be registered under an Irish flag!
The prize of free travel for life is a miserable one trip a year for a maximum of 30 years so they weren't exactly pushing the boat out on the prize!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ccs on October 09, 2017, 10:48:19 PM
I've always thought that "Countess Markievicz" would be a great name for a ferry. Nothing to do with politics (hers or mine  ;D) just think it would suit a ship!
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: SEA on October 24, 2017, 06:27:29 AM
Hello,
Looking at the Flensburger Web cam  to me it appears the ship being constructed is not the new Irish ferries ship (colour of the Hull size etc;) . it also states on the dedicated website that the ship is not due to be launched until January . Can anyone shed some light on this ??
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on October 24, 2017, 11:55:12 AM
It is the new IF ship. The keel was laid a few weeks back on the slipway.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: SEA on October 24, 2017, 05:13:05 PM
Thank you Niall,
I don't doubt you and to go by the web cam is not a great idea, Pure speculation but the hull APPEARS to be  red and blue whereas Irish ferries Hulls are Green and white
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on October 24, 2017, 08:18:10 PM
Well most hulls are red at and below the waterline  , now as far as the blue that can be seen , maybe they are going with a colour scheme like the Oscar Wilde . The dimensions would indicate that it is indeed the new IF vessel and not one of the Ro Ro that were build recently .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on October 24, 2017, 08:23:25 PM
Having just looked at the web cam it could be that the building hall lighting  is making the green painted band on the hull look as if it blue .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 24, 2017, 09:50:22 PM
EXACTLY THE COLOR IS GREEN
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: SEA on October 26, 2017, 06:30:04 AM
Yep its Green,
thanks to everyone for their input
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on October 27, 2017, 07:16:13 PM
new ship scheduled to make 3 return crossings from Dublin to Cherbourg from next July! No new Dub -Hhead info yet
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on October 27, 2017, 07:56:15 PM
Epsilon is staying and will be making the 3 return Dub-Cherb crossings in low season.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 27, 2017, 10:08:13 PM
my friend work port of cherbourg have say  two  months ago
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 28, 2017, 03:13:33 PM
SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH I'M FRENCH  (cherbourg)
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 28, 2017, 03:21:29 PM
irish ferries  to buy epsilon or purchased another?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 28, 2017, 09:25:46 PM
 sorry i would say charted again for epsilon?or buy?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on October 29, 2017, 02:03:22 PM
Looks Like W.B. Yeats is on Dublin - Cherbourg Daily until 18 September 2018

Thats a mist opportunity for Dublin - Holyhead until the Autumn,

Wouldnt be great if the IOI was to come to Dublin and a charter vessel to handle Rosslare - Pembroke for three months.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on October 30, 2017, 06:27:15 AM
The schedule  for Dublin to Cherburg is blank from July onwards ,so is the above schedule speculation .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on October 30, 2017, 10:21:48 AM
The sailings including prices (cabins very expensive) are loaded into the search engine.
I would speculate that Swift migt be laid up come September 2018 when the WB starts Dub-HH schedule.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on October 30, 2017, 10:36:18 AM
It looks like Oscar Wilde is being laid up from end of September if you go by Booking Engine.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 30, 2017, 01:06:57 PM
It looks like Oscar Wilde is being laid up from end of September if you go by Booking Engine.

Can we assume anything until the full schedule emerges and that for 2019?   Or we get a full statement from ICG?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on October 30, 2017, 01:22:35 PM
It looks like Oscar Wilde is being laid up from end of September if you go by Booking Engine.


How far in advance can you book the big U or Inishmore ?according to booking engine sailings to U.K. finish next July, or maybe they have not released those sailings yet ? (Which would be normal practice
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on October 30, 2017, 02:13:14 PM
Only Epsilon bookings are available to France from October 2018.

UK Bookings available to end of June 2018. 
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 30, 2017, 08:13:23 PM
ICG previously said that the full-schedule of the new ship would be announced tomorrow (31 October) so I would expect at least some more clarity then.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: CH1 on October 30, 2017, 09:03:55 PM
Do we expect another ship (i guess chartered) to replace the ageing Oscar Wilde ?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 30, 2017, 10:03:15 PM
hello ch1
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 30, 2017, 10:20:30 PM
Do we expect another ship (i guess chartered) to replace the ageing Oscar Wilde ?

I wouldn't be surprised if there is a second newbuild and net result is Swift, Epsilon and Oscar leave fleet.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on October 30, 2017, 10:32:56 PM
There are plans for a second newbuild from FSG after Brittany Ferries Honfleur is built.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: CH1 on October 30, 2017, 10:59:34 PM
Possibly WB Yeats sister ship ? Or a more tailored-design vessel ?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 31, 2017, 03:11:54 PM
There are plans for a second newbuild from FSG after Brittany Ferries Honfleur is built.

When was this announced?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on October 31, 2017, 04:56:37 PM
I saw it on the Irish Ferries website a few weeks back
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 31, 2017, 07:25:11 PM
do you think that rosselareis abandoned for dublin in the future for the lines france
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 31, 2017, 07:42:13 PM
I saw it on the Irish Ferries website a few weeks back


Can you point to the page?  I think we'd all be talking about if if they had announced a second newbuild.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 31, 2017, 07:48:24 PM
The Ferries Facebook group has just shared this

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ferriesglobal/

Irish Ferries have now revealed more of their plans for the W.B. YEATS.

As timetable investigations revealed at the weekend she will operate Dublin - Cherbourg with a sailing one way per day.  In mid-September she will switch to Dublin - Holyhead and the EPSILON will take her place to France. 

The fast ferry JONATHAN SWIFT will go seasonal only and looks like she will be out of service Mid-September to April.

The future of the OSCAR WILDE isn’t clear from the press release but the emphasis out on daily sailings to France suggests that she will remain around.

https://www.irishferries.com/uk-en/news-listing/rish-ferries-announces-daily-departures-to-france-for-summer-2018/
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: A83 on October 31, 2017, 08:05:32 PM
As you say it looks like Oscar Wilde's future is very unclear. What seems to be clear is that the winter sailings to France will be with the much more efficient [and therefore cheaper to run] Epsilon. It also looks like Rosslare will not feature in the Ireland-France schedule for the winter.

All this makes financial sense but taking the cruise ferry off the autumn / winter run is a pity as it is much more comfortable way to get to France during the rougher winter weather.

Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: RorieLen on October 31, 2017, 08:13:33 PM
I saw it on the Irish Ferries website a few weeks back


Can you point to the page?  I think we'd all be talking about if if they had announced a second newbuild.

Agreed. Such a significant piece of news would be shared and discussed at length if it was true.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 31, 2017, 08:20:52 PM
As you say it looks like Oscar Wilde's future is very unclear. What seems to be clear is that the winter sailings to France will be with the much more efficient [and therefore cheaper to run] Epsilon. It also looks like Rosslare will not feature in the Ireland-France schedule for the winter.

All this makes financial sense but taking the cruise ferry off the autumn / winter run is a pity as it is much more comfortable way to get to France during the rougher winter weather.

I wouldn't assume Oscar is gone just yet, if you read between the lines she could even be doing a reduced number of sailings simply.  It's an interesting development anyhow and it will be notable to see how Stena respond.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 31, 2017, 08:44:50 PM
maybe the ferry bay of seine could be charter by irish ferries in 2020 when its end of charter with brittany ferries and its facilities on board are designed for long lines
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on October 31, 2017, 09:18:39 PM
maybe the ferry bay of seine could be charter by irish ferries in 2020 when its end of charter with brittany ferries and its facilities on board are designed for long lines

Was the suggestion from BF not that DFDS want her back?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on October 31, 2017, 09:48:28 PM
isle of innishmore possible  ireland france?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Niall on October 31, 2017, 10:18:07 PM
isle of innishmore possible  ireland france?

Inishmore wouldn't be suitable for the France run as she only has 186 cabins compared to 1440 on Oscar. Epsilon has 274 cabins, which is even more than Inishmore.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on November 01, 2017, 09:44:30 AM
All this would suggest that during the summer months, there would be no actual change in tonnage beween Dublin and Holyhead - unless they use Epsilon out of Rosslare and bring either Oscar or Inishmore North.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on November 01, 2017, 11:02:57 AM
The order with FSG included "one option".
Regarding the future of Rosslare it might just be that the timetable has not been finalised yet.
A report done for ICG by Goodbody stockbrokers last year suggested that the Swift would become a seasonal service when the new build arrived on the central corridor.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on November 01, 2017, 05:17:31 PM
ROSSELARE IS DIFFICULT IN WINTER
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: CH1 on November 01, 2017, 05:28:39 PM
Can we expect a shifting of the traffic, currently crossing from Rosslare, to the Cherbourg-Dublin route, given that the W.B Yeats will be by far larger than the OW garage capacity.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on November 01, 2017, 10:24:44 PM
isle of innishmore possible  ireland france?

Inishmore wouldn't be suitable for the France run as she only has 186 cabins compared to 1440 on Oscar. Epsilon has 274 cabins, which is even more than Inishmore.

That sounds more like berth numbers rather than cabins...

Epsilon has only about 70 cabins I know for a fact.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on November 01, 2017, 10:27:36 PM
The full 2018 French timetable looks like this

https://www.irishferries.com/globalassets/landingoffer-pages/france2018/franceschedule-2018-en.pdf

Perhaps Oscar Wilde's future will depend on summer bookings and if they are good she could see further/seasonal use?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on November 01, 2017, 10:53:46 PM
I wonder will she (the Oscar Wilde) be chartered out over the winter? The last time they had 2 ships on the route the St Patrick 2 spent most winters on charter.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on November 02, 2017, 10:50:31 AM
Confirmed Swift will not run after WB Yeats arrives on Dublin - Holyhead in September 2018.
1 November press release from Irish Ferries below:

Irish Ferries Launches 2018 Schedule, incorporating its amazing new Cruise Ferry W.B. Yeats
01 NOV 2017
Irish Ferries has unveiled its 2018 sailing schedule, incorporating the capacity offered by its €144 million cruise ferry W.B. Yeats.

The new ferry – currently being built in Germany – is expected to weigh in at 55,000 tonnes, making it the largest as well as the most luxurious ferry to operate on the Irish Sea.

W.B. Yeats will sail between Holyhead and Dublin from mid-September 2018, delivering additional capacity for 1,885 passengers and crew and 1,200 cars per crossing, onto the busiest ferry route between the UK and Ireland.

Fabulous facilities on the new ship will include a Club Class lounge with direct passenger access from the car decks, à la carte and self-service restaurants, a cinema, a shopping mall, a choice of bars and lounges and an outside promenade deck. There will also be 441 cabins, including luxury suites with their own private balconies.

Before going into service on the Holyhead to Dublin route, W.B. Yeats will add much-needed high season capacity between Ireland and France.

After her maiden voyage on 6 July 2018, the new ship will offer Irish holidaymakers a cruise style travel experience, sailing between Dublin and Cherbourg throughout the summer. When coupled with the existing vessel the Oscar Wilde, which currently serves the route, it will double the number of sailings between the two countries, with planned daily departures in alternate directions.

In another schedule change, the high-speed Dublin Swift catamaran, which crosses between Holyhead and Dublin in as little as one hour and 49 minutes, will provide a summer-only service in 2018.

For full schedule details visit the ‘Routes and Times’ section of www.irishferries.com
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: bissiere on November 02, 2017, 08:53:53 PM
where will go oscar wilde for winter 2018 2019? only dublin cherbourg with epsilon
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on November 02, 2017, 09:42:05 PM
where will go oscar wilde for winter 2018 2019? only dublin cherbourg with epsilon
Perhaps that could depend on what’s she’s doing from 2020!  If the extra sailings from Dublin - Cherbourg are popular it could see Oscars carryings reduce significantly as people switch to Dublin instead of Rosslare.  If the Yeats is a success I’d say it will only be a matter of time before the option of a second ship is exercised in any case, which would probably make Oscar redundant
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: wildmind on November 03, 2017, 04:54:08 PM
This means that there will be no foot passenger capacity on irish ferries between Ireland and france in the winter, which is a pity
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: A83 on November 04, 2017, 10:44:33 AM
Although the question of foot passenger access is important I think that in a way the decision to run a truck ship over the shoulder and winter seasons goes beyond that and is a very strategic one. I suppose the main income over the period from October - March does derive from trucks but it seems a pity that the previous offering of a high quality cruise ferry [OW]  which could accommodate older people, school trips [in the Easter period] as well as trucks has been withdrawn.

I wonder will the Point Aven see an increase in bookings over the shoulder seasons?

Also does this question the commitment of IF to Rosslare?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on November 04, 2017, 02:56:21 PM
I see a problem in 2019 when WB Yeats goes back on Dublin - France Route if they dont have a ship with her capacity to replace her on Dublin - Holyhead.

I ultimately see Irish Ferries bringing IOI onto Holyhead - Dublin route and second hand tonnage being used to operate on Rosslare - Pembroke.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: PaddyL on November 04, 2017, 10:53:37 PM
If a two-ship service is a success in summer 2018 surely we will see Oscar Wilde retained for 2019 seasonal service and overhaul cover unless they receive a stupidly good offer for her?

We simply don't know enough yet about their thinking.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on November 11, 2017, 12:01:36 PM
WB Yeats is now not scheduled to sail to France before 12 July 2018 according to Irish Ferries website.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on December 02, 2017, 01:35:55 AM
If a two-ship service is a success in summer 2018 surely we will see Oscar Wilde retained for 2019 seasonal service and overhaul cover unless they receive a stupidly good offer for her?

We simply don't know enough yet about their thinking.
Very true.  With tonnage in short supply these days perhaps such an offer may be forthcoming though.  In any case, I'm sure ICG have a plan.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on December 12, 2017, 09:30:23 PM
Just been watching the webcam, looks like one more deck and they will have to leave the building hall, from what I can see, crane cannot go much higher.

(Have not watched any other FSG build so no reference with regard to crane heights)

Will be interesting to see will the success of this build be the start of a few more orders going FSG's direction for passenger ferries, though surprised ICG did not take up option for a second vessel
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on December 13, 2017, 12:57:16 AM
By my reckoning, they have probably completed the 5m high truck decks now. They might just squeeze in a passenger or car deck, but it will be tight. I'm sure we will soon find out.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on December 13, 2017, 08:23:36 AM
How  many vehicle decks .Four by the look of it
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: ferryfan on December 13, 2017, 10:57:04 AM
Due to hit the water on 19th Jan 2018
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: giftgrub on December 13, 2017, 07:47:20 PM
Due to hit the water on 19th Jan 2018

That makes sense, thanks for the updates.

With the bow doors fitted looks like a ferry now, the bow profile does not look as extreme as the first images would have suggested. Much better for the heavy seas it will encounter crossing to France.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Steven on December 14, 2017, 12:58:15 AM
They are proving those of us who said they wouldn’t take too long knocking her together very correct!  Just shows what an efficient and professional operation they are.  Of course, we haven’t yet seen the finished article.
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on December 16, 2017, 12:45:17 AM
If you look at the previous launch on You tube you will notice the building hall is built on a slipway.

This means the front of the vessel sits much higher than the rear giving the impression the building is not high enough,

My guess is they will go as high as the bridge deck before launch and complete the upper two decks on the quayside.

Regarding the number of vehicle decks it looks like there is a deck below the main vehicle deck for drops or trailers.

Last week we could see the construction of an inner ramp going to the upper car deck which is next for construction.

They certainly work quickly considering the keel was layed on 12 September only 3 months ago.

I hope we get to see lots of photos of the launch.

Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Davy Jones on December 16, 2017, 01:14:17 AM
Incidentally, has anybody heard how the new Stena builds are progressing?
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: Chef on December 16, 2017, 05:57:46 AM
Plus they have added a Christmas tree on the bow for a seasonal touch .
Title: Re: NEW IF Ship
Post by: IFPete on December 16, 2017, 12:08:05 PM
Nice one, i mist that.